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The Purdue Report with Jake Dunn: Exhibition 1 Reaction + TKR to Kansas (3.93) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome, Boyther Microfans, the Central Indian Sports Report for this week's Purdue Report with Jake Dunn, talking some college basketball here.
• 0:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: After Sunday's exhibition against Ball State at home, also some news that Trake Offman ran the former Purdue Great is now a Kansas J-Hawk and Jake before we break down this exhibition game, which I have a lot of thoughts on.
• 0:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be surprised if he actually ends up being eligible.
• 0:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you filed an injunction and was successfully given that injunction, and then the NCAA hasn't kind of appealed that or anything, or tried to battle back.
• 0:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think there's still a chance that something happened to be able for the end of the regular season.
• 0:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I hope he doesn't soon up, but if he does soon up, he's getting exactly what he wanted a bigger payday.
• 0:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: capitalizing on probably his his peak earning years.
• 1:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I can't really play them.
• 1:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not way I would love to see him only for new colors, but a cancer has a great team.
• 1:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if he suits up obviously obviously he'll be an important addition there.
• 1:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he'll be as an eligible player, but if he is, I guess I don't know how to feel about that.
• 1:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jake, it's kind of a sad world that you can make more money at Kansas than you can with the Minnesota Timberls.
• 1:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't even understand it.
• 1:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even understand the world we're
• 1:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
• 1:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, for those of you don't know, I was the sports editor at the News and Tribune in Jeffersonville.
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I...
• 1:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: covered Trake often ran from the time he was in eighth grade.
• 1:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've very much admire of him particularly the way he his game grew and developed over the years when he signed with Purdue.
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: My first thought was I hope one day he can be a major contributor to this team and then he came in and was pretty much a star right away which took me by surprise.
• 2:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was way better.
• 2:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: basketball player than I ever thought he was gonna be and I truly admire that and I just hope this doesn't happen and I'm sorry for that but I hope it doesn't happen.
• 2:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I really like him but I think it's really bad for the sport and I think it's bad for his legacy if he plays the Kansas.
• 2:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm at a grandstair.
• 2:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, obviously loving as a person.
• 2:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know like you know I'm great but loving as a person from what I know from that Purdue.
• 2:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: and what he doesn't get to suit up.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if he does, again, I think it's not a positive thing for the sport of college basketball at the same time.
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I can't really blame him for trying to do what he's doing, you know, seeing other people kind of do very similar things.
• 2:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he's only going to have this ability to earn this much money and it is young career.
• 2:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: So don't blame him from a business standpoint,
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: ethical standpoint, I don't, I don't, I don't agree with the move.
• 3:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, let's talk about some basketball.
• 3:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jake, first I want to get your thoughts.
• 3:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I texted you a little earlier that I'm going to probably be a little overly critical of this exhibition game, considering it was an exhibition game, but mostly I'm just nitpicking and trying to find out what's going to be the Achilles of this team.
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just kind of trying to figure
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: probably my final thought is he'll fix the problems is that Matt painters on the job and so not too concerned about what happened in an exhibition game but I'm still going to point the stuff out Jake before we do that I would like to get your thoughts on the 87.55 win over ball state at Macy Arena on Sunday.
• 3:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah my my initial thought this team is going to be pretty fun to watch I think it's
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: kind of hard to take a whole lot away from, you know, from this exhibition gaming, it's ball state obviously they're not, you know, a super comparable team to what we'll see, you know, in conference play, and and but you know, it still still is a division one team.
• 4:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: This was kind of the first opportunity for a lot of these guys to go out and play in this Purdue system.
• 4:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm sure we saw a lot of mistakes that that
• 4:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: will clean up, but this is an exhibition when you can give a pretty exciting look at this new team.
• 4:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: They played faster, you've shot a lot of threes at a much higher ball, you rebounding offensively was a strong suit, which is something that I will be interested to see if they can keep up, if they can keep really kind of crashing the offensive glass throughout the rest of season when they're playing some tougher opponents.
• 4:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: and again, just proves what we've been saying all season that, you know, this team is very deep, that there's no obvious superstar.
• 5:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's not even a really a single primary ball, he and Blair, or even somebody who just does one thing exceptionally well.
• 5:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Seems like this is a team that is a collection of players who, you know, with their distinct strengths, can all fit together and be a versatile,
• 5:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: team.
• 5:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of grown.
• 5:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You'll win some games that probably not supposed to.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it's a pretty good team.
• 5:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there's any doubt.
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: To me, it's a top 25 team.
• 5:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Assuming things go right.
• 5:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to go ahead and share my concerns with you, Jake, and then I'm going to give you the positives.
• 5:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: First of all, I thought the offense was horribly run all night.
• 5:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: There was almost no inside out work.
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: There was almost no setting picks.
• 5:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Only Caden Pearson, Daniel Jacobson, seemed to be interested in player movement at all.
• 5:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: There was a lot of standing around the perimeter, and there were way, way, way too many three point attempts early in the shot clock.
• 6:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have no problem with three point attempts.
• 6:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: But when there are 21 seconds on the shot clock,
• 6:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: why not work for the better shot than just throwing up a three and the pressure defense was great.
• 6:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think CJ Cox looks like a defensive player of the year candidate.
• 6:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: It looks at least he looked like he wants to be.
• 6:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: As he is hounding the guy bringing the ball down on the court all night.
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: But when they're defense, but when they broke the pressure defense, I didn't think their half court defense was very good except for Jacobson as an exceptional shot blocker.
• 6:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't think their full court defense was very good, but some things that I loved.
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned CJ Cox.
• 6:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: He is going to have a great year.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: He is both sides of the ball is just going to go to another level.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
• 6:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I also really like Caden Pearcee as a Purdue guy.
• 6:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: He bought player movement, ball movement, interested in winning the positive attitude.
• 7:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love that addition.
• 7:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you mentioned the primary ball handler.
• 7:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the sooner the better it's Luke Irville.
• 7:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think he played pretty well here in this game.
• 7:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was a great to see a lot of these new guys.
• 7:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: come in and be able to contribute.
• 7:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: We did not see a son on one or reverse night.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: We did not see any of them, which I thought maybe we'll see them here on Thursday.
• 7:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, because you know, it would be nice to just see them a little bit, but it seems like a bias, red shirt, seasons aren't thing anymore, but it seems like they're basically get a red shirt this year, not really.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: You'll get a whole lot of playing time and less, you know, something, you know, goes very wrong or
• 7:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: for some sort of situational, you know, situation, but or they moved to the point where they forced them to play him.
• 7:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that is true.
• 7:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, Luke Earl, I think, you know, Coach Fainer, dear point is going to have a hard time, you know, keeping him off the court.
• 8:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to, he's going to play and then play, you know, quite a bit and that is going to be
• 8:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I said tough decision that that map here gets paid to the big bucks to make.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: He is, I think he is really good defensively is very disruptive defensively.
• 8:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: And his ball handling is almost impeccable, you know, I'd notice that in the, uh,
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: in the all-star games he just has the ball on a string he just does not lose control the ball and if you can get where you want on the court and you can have the kind of touch he has you're gonna score a lot of points and he is a great passer I think the sooner you just give him the ball at the point the better I think the rest of the guys are better on the wings including Omer I think he is better suited
• 8:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: as a wing, I don't know who you wouldn't start between those guys, but I think the sooner you get Lou Hurdle, the key is the better.
• 9:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I think we've heard Coach Painter in the past talk about kind of letting players play through mistakes to like to kind of benefit the long term, stay in the program and I think it's exactly kind of well, you know, what we're gonna see here for Lou Hurdle.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: use one for six shooting and four from three and it is 21 minutes.
• 9:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So not a great shooting night, but Coach Painter's gonna allow him to play through those to get him experienced and benefit not only him long-term, but also the program's hold.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: A couple of other guys, Jacob Weber, Sweet Touchman, up there with the all-time
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: is a legit athlete and a really nice basketball player.
• 9:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jacob Weber, he shot and made his first three, just ten seconds after he entered the game.
• 10:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he, he is not sure.
• 10:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's confident and willing to shoot.
• 10:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: he was your coach painter said he used to be one of the best shooters he's ever been around which obviously is a pretty high you know high praise there so there's a difference between a good shot and basketball then a good shot for him he's going to need to get better at and it's going to come with experience probably but you're just kind of figuring out when
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: to shoot it immediately or you know when to get a reset the possession, some of the attempts you know where we're kind of and he's going to need to learn, you know, which shots are you're going to provide the most value, I guess.
• 10:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, um, I think from, obviously, he's he's pretty, pretty skinny.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so we're going to, I just body summon him.
• 11:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm confident he'll continue to do that throughout his product career.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: But rebounding, I think it is going to be
• 11:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be something that I think is going to either keep it.
• 11:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, it's shooting ability is very prevalent.
• 11:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great shooter, but if you can't rebound the ball, it's a liability on defense, then we'll be able to keep them out there for too long.
• 11:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they produce, you definitely encourage them to shoot, but just be a little bit more selective with the shots.
• 11:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then it ends up, yeah, I mean, it's a ball state, you know, they're
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought you looked like a kind of, you know, a man amongst boys out there, and yeah, he's super athletic, you played pretty well, he's in his speed and athletic system, he was two for two from the field, only played 13 minutes, he made some mistakes, you know, pass the ball and share some mistakes on defense too, so as he gets more time in the system, you know, I'm sure some of those.
• 12:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: It shows a work himself out, but yeah, go ahead and have him out there to add a little bit more depth in four and five spots.
• 12:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna need it because Daniel Jacobson is gonna be a foul machine.
• 12:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he,
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: likes to foul.
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the thing is he sets a lot of picks and he moves a lot on those picks.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's got to be careful.
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do like that he is willing to go out and do it, but he's got to be careful because they kind of called him for about five of them last night.
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: He and I thought
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll set the pick for you.
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll go here.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's move.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's move.
• 12:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was very few others.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they were outscored in the paint 2016 and that's Ball State's inside game.
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Not very good.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Their guards are pretty good, I think.
• 13:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: But so again, not nothing to be too concerned about, but there are definitely some concerns.
• 13:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely, in the concern with the fouling and concerns on defense, that they can start with the guards being able to keep their, you know, their man and front of them, you know, if they're getting beat, you know, repeatedly, then, you know, Dana Jacobson, he's pretty much forced to try to help and risk, you know, rocking up those fouls.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, I think, you know, ball pressure and being able to keep your guy in front of you,
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've been kind of impressed with his ability like there was kind of replaying a play in my head or you got to rebound immediately, you know, went back up with it and that was something that you kind of seemed different from last year and I guess really even the his technical freshman year where he played one game or two games kind of and then got hurt.
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you're going to have some
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: when it comes to decision making and you know, sensing when that, you know, when defense are going to send that that extra defender, you know, he's going to have to, you know, the last thing is that he was very good at something that you know, travian Williams is very good at is kind of when that second defender comes, you know, finding the opening guy, you know, the pass out of the situations that something that
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's part of being a big man, especially at Purdue, and that mess up just takes your repetitions and experience.
• 14:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he's going to continue to develop here over the next year or two that that's really the way he's going to be probably a focal point of the offense, if I had to guess, he did make a three as well.
• 14:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: In this game, eight points three or four from the four, you know, one of one from three.
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, did you see it?
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think I was looking away at that point, not seeing the three point attempt.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's the ugliest three point make you'll ever see.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's hope he doesn't shoot very many of those.
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hit the back board and hit the front of the rim.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hit the back board again and win it.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's funny.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it is development.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: You'll throw the rest of the season's going to be big for this team.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the nice thing is this team doesn't have, you know, doesn't have super high expectations, obviously.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're so kind of high goals, but the expectation from a fan base perspective is it going to be super high, so it's not going to be as much pressure on them, so open it's kind of more of a immortal loose and or a fun basketball season with kind of some lower expectations.
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: You said the word fun.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think very interesting is what the season's going to be because we still haven't talked much about Antoine West who is the real deal.
• 15:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to give them so much punch off of the bench.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think they're going to be times where he's going to be in the game at the end of the game in pressure situations because he is that good of a score.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we haven't talked about Jack Banner at seven points in six rebounds in just 15 minutes.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: So
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Again, a lot of positives.
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know I was a little extra grumpy about it, but a lot of positives out of this too.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Matt Painter's gonna have decisions to make on playing time, that's for sure, because there are a lot of guys, including Raleigh Burgess, who probably deserves some time.
• 16:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 16:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And what they give out Jack Diner that I would like to miss his, especially in transition, you know, is going to pass the ball, I think they give us Purdue.
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 16:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: You'll kind of another option to initiate the offense after a rebound.
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think he's going to play a very important role in this team.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he does everything with a purpose.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: He is moving quickly to spots.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: He is, you know, doing the little things and he is so much fun to watch.
• 17:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be hard for him to decide who's playing these minutes.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yes it is.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is post game press conference and also mentioned something about how, you know, with most teams, you know, whatever, you make a substitution, there's notable drop off, you know, in terms of talent or production, whereas with this team, you know, you're taking one guy off a court and praying in a guy who's, you know, just as good as not better than, you know, than guy that they're replacing.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think we're going to see Jack banner and game peers, probably use pretty interchangeably.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: this season.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: If I had a nice hit up walk on one end, and then I came down and transitioned, got the ball and I was fouled, made the bucket, so you've got an in one.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I see what that was pretty exciting.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm excited to see how he turned out this year, but it's just fun to kind of not really know it to expect for the season.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have the team's
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think somewhere between 8 and 12 and 12 and 8 in the big 10 makes sense to me and hopefully it's more like 12 and 8 in like a 4 or 5 seed and don't be shocked if they exceed your expectations because some map painter teams have absolutely so you've got to get a good mix here I think obviously offensive talent but also defensively this is probably one of the better
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: In terms of you know talent guarding the ball probably one of the the better defensive teams that their map painters had here You know recently So yeah, I'm a guy who loves defense, so you're I'm excited for the and it's excited for it for the versatility of this team as well
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jake, you and I will be back sometime this weekend, probably Friday, maybe as late as Monday, but make sure you're subscribed so you know when the podcast happens.
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: At it Oyster, so you will know when the podcast is out.
• 19:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: We will be reacting to Thursday's game against Fort Wayne and talking about the game against Yukon.
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: We might even be talking a little football.
• 19:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: We edit Oyster, football team of course has the week off, but we might talk a little football it'll be a Purdue report.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: So anything goes.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jake, thank you so much as always, always appreciated and oyster.
• 19:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Can't wait to see how this team develops and where it goes and also can't wait to talk about it with you.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely looking forward to another great basketball season and thank you everyone for listening.
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• 20:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks again, Jake, and boiler up.
• 20:06
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• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks again, Jake.
• 20:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thank you.
• 20:21
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• 20:24
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