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Did Timbaland Play Himself Or His Legacy With A.I. Music??? · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: You are now watching for All Nerds And on this
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  Speaker 1: episode we talk about AI music, is it inevitable or inexcusable?
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  Speaker 2: Both of them?
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  Speaker 3: And what's up y'all? And welcome to another episode of
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  Speaker 3: the four All Nerds Show. It's your boy, DJ Ben
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  Speaker 3: I mean aka LFE work. You got me Quantum leech,
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  Speaker 3: as always, I am.
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  Speaker 1: Joined by Patiana King Dy Grand that is a tech
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  Speaker 1: also known as Princess Preach, Flex Luthor, Glorilla ro Gucci,
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  Speaker 1: the Team.
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  Speaker 4: Of the North.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Babby Max excited to bring that back. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: stupid springtime. That song aways reminds me of spring summer,
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  Speaker 3: so you know what I mean, had to bring that back. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: it is spring, it almost summer. It's hot as hell
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  Speaker 3: in New York and then it's cold some days like
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  Speaker 3: spring does not want to go away. But we are
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  Speaker 3: I hope everyone's having a beautiful day, beautiful week, all
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  Speaker 3: of that good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was trying to wait until we got at
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  Speaker 1: least a minute into the intro, so I wouldn't get
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  Speaker 1: flying this, but Earth is.
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  Speaker 4: Saying after y'all get the funk off of me. That's
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  Speaker 1: Okay, global warming is real, it's a challenge, and it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna get worse.
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  Speaker 3: Well damn, I mean, in the spirit of Chico Leo,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like that got depressing real quick, the trying
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  Speaker 3: to start off. You know, we already had a pre
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  Speaker 3: show full of depression. I didn't need the whole shad continue.
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  Speaker 4: It's supposed to be real. Let's be real.
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  Speaker 3: This is spreading, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: It has to be real, tell you the truth.
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  Speaker 3: Yikes.
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  Speaker 1: I always tell you guys that choose even when I lie.
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  Speaker 3: Our phase quote. All right, well, yeah, welcome to fall
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  Speaker 3: Nerds show, where we are giving it to you raw
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  Speaker 3: and real. Hey yep, I get a sound effect. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna keep it moving and thank you once again
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  Speaker 3: for joining us on the show. A lot to talk
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  Speaker 3: about this week in the world going on. It's I mean, look, man.
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  Speaker 1: Well the first thing, yeah, I'll tell you what I
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  Speaker 1: really want to talk about first, because okay, this is
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  Speaker 1: the most pressing important thing to me at least in fandom. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: next week, Ironheart is coming out June twenty fourth and
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  Speaker 1: nine pm Eastern.
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  Speaker 4: The way I need everybody to rally.
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  Speaker 1: Behind Dominique Thorn, the way I need the fandom to
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  Speaker 1: rise up and push this to the top. Act like
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  Speaker 1: it's Black Panther Junior. Stop fucking playing. I am dead ass.
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  Speaker 1: If y'all didn't see ye, please go to our YouTube
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  Speaker 1: right now, or you can go to any of our
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  Speaker 1: socials right now where you can see. Actually, you got
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  Speaker 1: to speak to miss Dominique Thorn herself, Miss Reevee Williams
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  Speaker 1: as we know or we'll know it next week, and
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  Speaker 1: she gave me, first of all, a lovely, really quick
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  Speaker 1: but lovely conversation, and we would love to have her
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  Speaker 1: on to talk more. But she gave us the background
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  Speaker 1: of just how important re Rea is to the MCU.
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  Speaker 1: We got to know a little bit more about her personally.
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  Speaker 4: She's really cool. She's mad cool.
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  Speaker 1: And because she's such a mad cool person, you know
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  Speaker 1: that she's coming with the real she's coming with the
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  Speaker 1: flavor with this, which means.
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  Speaker 4: We have to back her up. Okay, fandom, we have
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  Speaker 4: to do this.
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  Speaker 1: Okay fan, fan, fandom, fanboys, fangirls, fan peace people.
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  Speaker 4: We have to step.
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  Speaker 1: Up fan blacks, I want all the fans.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is how it works. Black people do
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  Speaker 3: something everyone else follows the life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's so important because this is the
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  Speaker 1: pivotal character in the MCU, like I see reve and
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  Speaker 1: really that's what they're doing with all of the younger
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  Speaker 1: quote versions of a lot of the heroes that you've
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  Speaker 1: grown and loved on the first iteration.
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  Speaker 4: And to me, it's like the way I see the MCU.
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  Speaker 1: How when it started it was the millennials and right
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  Speaker 1: now we in gen z times, okay, and you know
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  Speaker 1: the millennials is like a lot of them is like
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  Speaker 1: I'm retired. I'm out this whole, right, Like Tony Stark gone,
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  Speaker 1: Captain Maherica gone, you know, like unfortunately Black Panther gone
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  Speaker 1: until it gets redone maybe damn sit and ind just
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  Speaker 1: will take that.
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  Speaker 4: Who knows here.
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  Speaker 1: He was actually on Today Show and they hinted at
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  Speaker 1: it and it was like, did you have conversations about
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  Speaker 1: being Black Panther? And he said yes, no and laughed
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  Speaker 1: and then when the when the the host was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, yes, no, it means yes, you know. Dampson
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  Speaker 1: was like, well you don't know that, like, like this
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  Speaker 1: plain stupid, and then the whole said, well, if they
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  Speaker 1: asked you, would you consider and Dampson said yes, which
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  Speaker 1: means he's had some sort of conversation.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, I wouldn't be mad at that, right, I Like,
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  Speaker 3: I really like.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be mad at that at all, you know.
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  Speaker 1: For all that to say, the reason why I'm bringing
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  Speaker 1: all that up is because they're.
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  Speaker 4: The MCU was being rebooted.
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  Speaker 3: Now we're bringing we've already okay, and that yeah, that
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  Speaker 3: way could yeah, no, not to cut you off, but
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  Speaker 3: that that whole this is a lot of speculation that
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  Speaker 3: after Secret Wars, the MCU will be rebooted. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: really kind of like interested. I guess is the word
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  Speaker 3: and what people think that means? You know, because I
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  Speaker 3: want to.
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  Speaker 4: Know, like, what do you think that means?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to happen or not in
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  Speaker 3: the way that people think it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with the premise of the definition what do
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  Speaker 1: you think?
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  Speaker 4: But what it is it that you don't think is
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  Speaker 4: going to happen?
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  Speaker 3: Retelling the stories that we've already seen.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so let me rephrase them. When I say.
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  Speaker 3: Rebool, what you're saying is a different thing. But you're
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  Speaker 3: saying is a continuation a new generation. Correct. But there's
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  Speaker 3: people who believe because in the actual comic book, especially
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  Speaker 3: in the more recent Secret Wars, at the end of it,
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  Speaker 3: it actually was the end of like the Marvel Universe
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  Speaker 3: from the comics from like nineteen sixty three, I think
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  Speaker 3: they first started publishing, because up until that time, Marvel
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  Speaker 3: had never had like a crisis like DC where they
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  Speaker 3: rebooted the whole universe, you know, like DC in the comics.
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  Speaker 3: God damn, this turned off back in the eighties, had
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  Speaker 3: this event called Crisis on Infinite Earth. When it ended,
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  Speaker 3: they restarted all the comics, like there was a new
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  Speaker 3: Superman number one, and new Wonder Woman number one, New
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  Speaker 3: green Land, and et cetera. Summarize they started and they
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  Speaker 3: all restarted boom, And that's happened sadly multiple times since
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  Speaker 3: then in DC history, Like they've rebooted in.
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  Speaker 4: The DCU, it's happened, and I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean, we are all Indeed, it actually maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Reboots the wrong word, because a lot of people think
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  Speaker 1: that reboots literally the which it could, which it is.
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  Speaker 1: I guess by definition, it's retelling of the same story
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  Speaker 1: with just a slightly different spin on it, different different actors.
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  Speaker 4: Why why you have twenty million Batman? They're all technically reboots.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, there we go, Yep, fine, I'm I'm talking about
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  Speaker 1: a reject.
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  Speaker 3: Passing the torch passing the torch. Yes, and but I'm
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  Speaker 3: saying a lot of people think that it will happen
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  Speaker 3: after Secret Wars, and that's how we'll get a new
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  Speaker 3: Black Panther, and I don't believe Marvel would do that.
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  Speaker 4: They're not gonna do the same story again.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do not see us doing the Infinity saga again.
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  Speaker 3: That would seem really corny to me.
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  Speaker 1: Besides being corny, let's let's put our personal thoughts away.
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  Speaker 1: It wouldn't makes sense. It would not make sense in
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  Speaker 1: the context of what we know of the MCU now,
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  Speaker 1: which is this essentially this fragmented thing in of multiple
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  Speaker 1: of universes.
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  Speaker 4: They're not gonna do the same story again, it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: make sense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And monetarily, I don't think that's.
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  Speaker 4: What I mean. Let's get emotion out of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Monetarily, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Think holistically, it makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: It's not gonna drive dollars. This is not it's not
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  Speaker 1: built in the same way that the DCEU was, where
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  Speaker 1: it's just like it drives dollars to do the same
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  Speaker 1: Batman story fifty times. It was never built on that premise,
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  Speaker 1: So why would that work.
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  Speaker 3: Now and from going forward? As long as James Gunn
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  Speaker 3: is in control of DC, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Think And that's not gonna happen, right, don't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they're gonna be rebooting their Universeitny Thompson,
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Think so either.
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  Speaker 1: As mentioned, like I mentioned with Damson, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: see the next gen of THEE and.
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  Speaker 3: Now that see that would be the interesting like because
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  Speaker 3: of that Dampson, because of you know his age literally
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  Speaker 3: in real life. You know, he's younger. So he's younger
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  Speaker 3: than the current cast of Black Panther. So if they
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  Speaker 3: were like gonna do a new Black Panther, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'll just be interesting. You know.
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  Speaker 1: My thing is you have all the players basically there
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  Speaker 1: are about to be announced.
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  Speaker 2: MS.
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  Speaker 1: Marvel's already there, hawk Hawk Ey Jr. Is already there.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to be disrespectful.
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  Speaker 1: That's just how I remember.
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  Speaker 3: Girl, and she's just.
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  Speaker 1: That is Dennis Junior is Hawk Gysnner's sinners guy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, you America, I don't know America, your
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  Speaker 1: girl America's coming back anytime soon.
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  Speaker 3: But oh goddamn sorry, I saw something that that they
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  Speaker 3: they somehow do have interest in bringing our backs. So
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  Speaker 3: you know, hey, do you.
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: See like when you think it's like your friendly neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: spider Man, even though that's in a in a an
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  Speaker 1: animated sense, that character still exists within the realms, like
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  Speaker 1: and they pick and choose about who they side to
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  Speaker 1: pluck out of of animation into live action and vice versa.
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  Speaker 3: So it's fair game that man. You know, that man
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  Speaker 3: ain't getting plug not after that, after made them.
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  Speaker 1: Statements, how am I talking about the white actor of
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  Speaker 1: Peter Parker talking about him?
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking about It's just.
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  Speaker 4: Like you might see Pearl pop up somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like, what's his name? Who does the voice
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: of Miles? They never playing Miles in real life either.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he can't be nowhere near Center's talky because that's
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  Speaker 1: a problem.
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  Speaker 3: So let's not go there. I somehow feel that that
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  Speaker 3: relates to a lot of people. It's not just talk
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  Speaker 3: about you. I feel like that's a you know, that's
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  Speaker 3: a himn problem, not a him problem.
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  Speaker 4: It's a him problem because he's not invited.
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  Speaker 3: To I feel like it's you know, I don't feel
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  Speaker 3: like it's the other people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the table is set and and all that
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  Speaker 1: to say to bring him back to what the original
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  Speaker 1: point was, which is the table is set for a
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  Speaker 1: fucking party.
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  Speaker 3: And we have to just be joining that party.
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  Speaker 4: Iron Heart re Re Williams.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, y'all want y'all want y'all want some iron Man
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  Speaker 1: iron suit realness.
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  Speaker 4: Here you go. We're like, literally the stuff you want
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  Speaker 4: to see is coming. So and I'm not talking to it.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, there's I'm talking to the people who are just like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder that's all I need from you. I wonder
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  Speaker 1: you wonder go watch it. June twenty fourth, Mad Hater
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  Speaker 1: should watch it, Yeah, just to say they watched it
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  Speaker 1: and to give that least the one minute, thirty seconds
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  Speaker 1: required or whatever it is to count as a view.
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  Speaker 4: Mm hmm, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: So, I'm just saying I'm I'm probably going to promote
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  Speaker 1: this every single day until the data comes out, and
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  Speaker 1: then it will continue to promote it because it's just
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  Speaker 1: that important.
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  Speaker 4: It is that important that, as mentioned, we support Dominique.
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  Speaker 1: It's that important where we support this new character, that
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  Speaker 1: we support the entry way of this new character. You
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  Speaker 1: got to see a glimpse of this character in Wakanda Forever,
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  Speaker 1: but you didn't get to see the story glory of
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  Speaker 1: this character. You didn't get to see her intro and
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  Speaker 1: how she came to be. And that's what I am
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  Speaker 1: so excited to see.
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  Speaker 3: And I want to say some more. I mean one,
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  Speaker 3: I second, everything Titana said made sure y'all go watch
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  Speaker 3: that interview with Dominie Thoring the Titanna did fantastic job
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  Speaker 3: in the quite short.
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  Speaker 4: Time, the short time we had.
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  Speaker 3: But I got it, man, you did, you did, You
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  Speaker 3: did the work, and thank you for doing that because
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  Speaker 3: I know, you know, people do not understand how these
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  Speaker 3: press junkens go and what Tantowna pulled off for that
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  Speaker 3: one was you know, applaud her. Please hit the applause
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  Speaker 3: side of that fright now, because yeah, no, she surely
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  Speaker 3: deserves it. If if you know you know, and on
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: that point, I actually had to make what wrap it up?
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: Them niggas come in with that that button when you
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  Speaker 3: wrap it up? You see the button right be yo
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  Speaker 3: b yo.
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  Speaker 4: The sign is real simple beat it says wrap it up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, I'm sorry, mad as you said, they don't know
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  Speaker 4: what we go through.
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  Speaker 3: Big go ahead. Yes, they will never understand. But no,
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  Speaker 3: I had myself had to make a response video because
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  Speaker 3: in general, and not just to this, not just to
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  Speaker 3: our video on YouTube, but it was started by that
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  Speaker 3: once Todd Town and once we posted it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: immediately we got our usual love, you know, from our supporters.
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  Speaker 3: Take you to the fan fam everyone out there, and
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: make sure everyone subscribes on YouTube as well. All that
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  Speaker 3: good stuff. Hit that light. But in everything like that,
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: but then there was a lot of hate. And it
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  Speaker 3: goes back to something I saw when the trailer first
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  Speaker 3: for Iron Hurt dropped and everybody had been waiting on
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  Speaker 3: it forever. I go to YouTube a few hours after
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  Speaker 3: it dropped, and the first video I saw next to
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  Speaker 3: the trailer was somebody hating on it. And I'm like, damn,
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  Speaker 3: Normally that I don't see that, you know, I see
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  Speaker 3: a Fantastic four trailer, it will be like three or
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  Speaker 3: four people next to it, like, oh, it's the best
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  Speaker 3: dream ever, you know. But damn for Ironhartts like this,
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  Speaker 3: why right? No, I do know why. And that's what
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  Speaker 3: I addressed in my video. It's like people hate to
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  Speaker 3: see black women shining. That was basically the premise of
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: my video, and it's whack and weak and I have
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  Speaker 3: a problem with it. And so that's what I addressed
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  Speaker 3: in the video because I'm just really tired of it
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  Speaker 3: and even myself, and I say this in the video,
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  Speaker 3: when I saw the trailer, I was like, eh, I
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: was pretty well, I you know if I said in
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  Speaker 3: our review of the trailer that it felt like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: ten years ago Marvel, which is classic peak Marvel, but
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  Speaker 3: at the same time, it felt like stuff I'd seen before,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I was kind of like, damn,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I want to see something fresh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: for Ironhart I need more for my girl. You know,
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  Speaker 3: this is like, as I said, I'm starting to get
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: that Monica Rambou feeling and you know, or the one
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: you just mentioned America Chef is and you know that
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: hurt me. I was hurt y'all. By the other day,
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: I rewatched Civil War still fantastic, I say, I watching
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  Speaker 3: Shane she but I'm like some of that. I started
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: watching that it wasn't bad, and I was like, maybe
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: I should rewatch Doctor Strad and I was like, what
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  Speaker 3: am I thinking? You know, madness? And I actually like
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: parts of it, but you know, I remember what they
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  Speaker 3: did to my girl, and I was really rethinking about
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  Speaker 3: watching Love and Thunder and then I was like, I'm
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  Speaker 3: smoking too much now you now you od I know,
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  Speaker 3: and that's that's wild. But it's like, because I've rewatched
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  Speaker 3: all the more and I can't bring my something to do.
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  Speaker 4: You would have been fined doing multiverse.
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  Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, I think I'll do multi Where I have to.
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  Speaker 4: Do intervention is when you just said Love and Thunder, Like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, I.
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  Speaker 3: Won't do that again. But that being said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: that was my problem with the trailer, and I cannot
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  Speaker 3: say anymore because I am under you know what they
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  Speaker 3: call n DA and that's something else I can say. Though.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: I do have an issue with how Marvel is marketing this,
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: and I've seen a lot of people talking about that,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: and one thing I do want to address about that
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  Speaker 3: part is like people are kind of upset that they're
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  Speaker 3: releasing three episodes one week and then three episodes and
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  Speaker 3: that's and then it's done because.
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  Speaker 4: It's only six episodes.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't agree with I'm not sure if I
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  Speaker 3: think the Marvel could stretch it out.
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  Speaker 1: I don't agree with the release schedule because I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it interferes, at least publicly with what's going on
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: with Fantastic four. Yeap, so I understood, like like for example,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: what was it, oh Daredevil, where out of the five
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: hundred episodes it was twelve, but out of the five
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: hundred episodes of this season ended nine. Remember, But the
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: reason why I mentioned one number of episodes because like
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: it and it kind of unceremoniously, but they made it,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: and right before like was it and or or whatever?
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: They made it and right before the next big thing.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Coming on Disney Plus, like, because I know it's not
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: just Marvel, you know, is there? I know there ain't
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: no starts would.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Be a big Star Wars thing. I don't know, not
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: man the Laureate.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: No, that ain't coming back, bros In.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: The hit musical on Broadway.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, Maybe it's something you know, maybe
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I know, that's not it.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know, we don't get it.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: And so like I agree with you, I don't agree
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: with this release schedule if it's only six episodes and
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: unless unless it's interfering with something we just don't know
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: of yet, which is a high potential.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Who knows what is the problem.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Because I know back in the day, they would want
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: to avoid summertime type releases because people were not in
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: front of their TVs.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: They were on vacation, it was outside, it was well there,
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: and I think that might be.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Thing now mobile definitely, because well but still I mean, okay, okay,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: maybe not as much. But you also got amember the
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: people making these decisions are still old school other than
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: the computers making the decisions, and the computers are still
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: going to go by the you know, numbers that they've
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: been fed from before, so that would probably incline them
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: to say that. Yeah. And also you've got to remember
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: the summer is still reserved for the big movies, like
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: you know, even though they're not competing with like, they
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: don't want to take odds away from fans as four obviously,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: but they also Superman is going to come and take
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: our eyes and thoughts away from everything.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, and maybe and that could be a reason.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Like and there's these summer movies, so they that's something
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: they're thinking about as well.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Superman comes out July eighth, which is a
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: week later, so that to your point not wanting to
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: kind of cross.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you would not want to because Superman is trying
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: to eat up all the social attention, you know, so
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: you want to and.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: That honestly, So we're talking about three episodes next week,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: and three episodes the week of the thirtieth, then the
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: week after that July eighth, that's what Superman comes out.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, smart, They're geniuses. And I can't say no
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: more in that.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Say, hey, I still am just like, damn, I wish
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I even all that being said, I'm so mad about
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: it because my thing is, remember it got moved around
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of times too. It was never supposed to
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: come about this time of day, in this time of year.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Again, I can't say anything, but I don't understand that either.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: It was never but.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: You can't talk about what I'm what I'm saying, which
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: is this is this is common.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: No, I was like it was been supposed to come out.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I know I don't understand that either. That's what I'm saying.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I can't say why I don't understand that, but I
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: don't understand that. I do not understand that at all.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Now now, okay, now, the release schedule as it is
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: right now, when it's coming out, I fully understand, and
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I actually fully appreciate. And I can say this because
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: I saw somebody saying that, you know, oh no, because
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: of that, it's trying to disappear off of you know,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: people talking about it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: It won't, I am, he won't disappear.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Oh no, niggas gonna be talking about this the rest of.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: You here you saying, Okay, well you're gonna have to
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: say that, man, I mean, that's this is the this
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: is not the episode for that.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's all I'm gonna say. That's it.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Okay, but.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: It will not, you know it, It'll be fine.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I mentioned Superman.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: That reminds me of a quote that I read Rachel Brosnan.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Brosna hand, excuse me.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Relate to my man? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like, oh wait,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: taking here's Pierce. That's not even the same person.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: But wow, wow, Clampings do not look. What I was
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: trying to say was and you can't put it that racist.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: What I was trying to say was Rachel Brosnan, who
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: was playing Lois Lane and James Gunn Superman. She basically
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: was telling everybody who's been in a comic book movie
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: who's not talking about it, they need to shut the
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: fuck up. Her exact words were, I don't know why
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: people say yes to a project only so then turn
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: around and complain about it. Then she say, look, I
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: don't want to shit on other actors. She said, shit
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: shot on all the actors. But there was a minute
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: where it was cool to not like to hear movies
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and to look back on projects like this was pool
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: poo to them.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: She said, do it or don't do it, and then
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: stand by it.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: And then like right after, I don't know if this
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: is you know, shade from.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: The variety from her.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: They talked about Chris Simsworth talking to GQ about Love
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: and Thunder and saying, you know, I got caught up
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: in the improv in the wackedness, and I came a
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: parody of myself like like he was, you know, like
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: while he was doing it, it was all good in
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: the hood and then later on when people's not fucking
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: with it, he's just like, ah, yeah, maybe it was bad,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: but it's just like she's just like staying on business
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: no matter what you can change it.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I don't think she's I think because they were also
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: talking about in that same article about people like the
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Coda Johnson who shit like very hard on Madam Web.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Afterwards she got you know what was trash? Yeah, but
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: that's but you took the script and you knew that
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: scripp was trash.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know, because remember that's not exactly how it
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: went right. Wasn't it not always trashed in the beginning,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: or it would have different hopes and a different thing
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: going on.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: And it morphed out of control. I've often already like
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: contracted to it, So.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: What are you gonna do? Before I worked in the business,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: like directly, I often wondered about that. I was like, Yo,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: do people know they're making trash when they're making trash?
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: And having worked in the business, I would say, yes,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: you know, like you don't know if it's like I
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: don't think you know if it's classic as much until
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: it comes out, but you will know if something shaky,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: like when I worked through on American Gods. There's episodes
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: I thought were great, you know that we had plotted
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: out and everything I didn't. You know, they weren't fully done,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: but just the plot was great. And there are other
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: ones where I'm like, I don't know how this don't
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: work out.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Dakota said it wasn't my fault in relation to madawebt flopping.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: This is true.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: This is a thing that happens now where a lot
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: of creating decisions are made by committee or maybe people
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: who don't have creative bone in their body, and it
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: was really hard to make art that way, so which
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: is why I'm just like, I don't blame her.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: God damn though, like that's.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I don't blame her for sitting on it because you
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: probably can't until your point of like, oh, well you
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: could read a script.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: No, yeah, sure, it.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Was up to that last line she had in the
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: first as.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: I don't think what she came in with was what
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: it ended up as.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: So she probably went in with thinking something was as
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: mentioned good in the hood and it morphine is something.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Real, real bad.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Nigga, You have seen all the Sony Spider Verse films.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: How did you ever think they were gonna.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Sum you give way too much credit to people, because
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: how do you know Dakota Johnson seen all the spiders?
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I know she doesn't.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: That's Spider Man.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: That's on her.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Okay, but.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: You think she's wrong for saying that for you think
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: she's wrong for shitting on the movie.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Now, it was up till that last line. She had
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: me because the last line was like really disrespectful to
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: a lot of people who might have a lot more
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: creative bones in their body than her. You know, that
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: was like, there are you know, script writers? You know, like, yes,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: a lot of people. I know who she's talking about.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: She's about studio heads and stuff like that.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: So if you know what she's talking about, then let's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: not go to the stuff she she But why are
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: you doing that?
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: You know what you're talking about. You just said it.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: She's not talking about she's.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Not being disrespectful. She's talking about the creatives. She literally said,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the people.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Who don't she said I don't like pancakes.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: She didn't say fuck waffeles. Mm hmmm, you understand, Like,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: let's let's react to what she said, which was people
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: who don't have creative bone in their body.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: That was the situation she was in. They fucked her
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: ship up, and she was Web like, no, I'm sorry,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: and I can't you hear too much.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, I do feel like you know
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: this even as a writer, that ship don't be don't
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: end so a lot of times she don't end up
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the way you came into it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: As it doesn't.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: So I think she got set up and then she
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: was like, fuck, I'm on, I'm contractually obligated to sell
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: this ship.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I'm really gonna have to watch, madam Web.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: No you don't my brother my brother than my brother
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: my brother.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: No, you don't. Life is too short.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Life is too short for that ship. But let's listen.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I I had mentioned this quote for a reason.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I also wanted to go back to the
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Chris hymnsforth part of that, because that confirms my suspicion
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: that that film was done by cocaine.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: Could be just why they was having a great.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Time and was talking and he wasn't shitting on it
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: while it was happening.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: I came down when I here and I was like,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: oh wait, this was bad.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: So all that to say, I wonder like, how y'all
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: feel the people listening, like, do you think, like, if
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: people going to do the Superhero movie, just do it
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: and don't shit on it later, or can you be like, oh,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I think people can change their mind, like nigga, I
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: made a mistake, you know. And and when I say that,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I don't mean it in a in a downing type way,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: like when you're just like, like she said, like this
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: lady said, Rachel said.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: Back in the day, people used to do that about
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: comic book movies.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: They used to don't they try to belittle it, And
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, bro, don't believe it cause niggas below
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: it now because it makes money.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I mean.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: If you're literally that, I have a problem. But if
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: it's just like, ah, you know what, that shit wasn't
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: really good, that shit really was trash, that's fine. You're
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: allowed to change your mind.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like I don't mind that side of it.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Like I've talked about before, Michael Caine's famous quote was
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I think it's for piranho too, And they're like, have
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: you ever seen them film these? I know, but I
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: saw the House at Bought, you know, like yeah, yeah, no,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: I know, that's just garbage. And that's too but you know,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: it brought me that crib.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: And actually this says Superman open. I said the eighth earlier.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: This says the open July eleventh. So maybe the critics
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: can see you on the eighth.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: But yeah, but they are still that, like I say,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: still genius for Ironheart. Really yeah yeah.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Still yeah, you gotta get it.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: You got got to get out of the way of
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: that box. Yeah yeah, sure, or bad that is to
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: eat up, you know, like it's not good now I'm
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: talking about Superman, I know.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm saying that situation is not good for her
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: to be stuck in the in the eclipse of Superman,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: which is why.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: But they wouldn't have to have done a two week
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: release if it didn't come out when it did well.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Such as Life. But they would have to do a
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: two week release for something, because that's the other thing.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Ironheart does not have the cultural you know, cachet to
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: like pull that off.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Like how many episodes did Miss Marvel have? How long
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: did it take? Was it every week?
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: It was every week, but you could say that was
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: a different time.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: That was too.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Nothing else, Yeah, there was there was nothing else during
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: those weeks. This ship like, you're right, it probably should
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: not be coming out during summertime if you wanted to
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: release weekly, you know, But it's also different times they
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: didn't release there that were weekly. We saw how that ended,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: you know, it was like you know.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: And there's been some narrative changes in the MCU.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so I'm not you know, look, I'm not
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: gonna you know, I'm I'm more wondering. And we can
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: say this like we won't even be able to distress
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: this up until shit they before, which is different for
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: you know, like that's usually not the case for a
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: lot of you know properties in general, you.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Get a large runway, and especially with.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: The social runway, usually get a you know, like the
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: review runway, I understand day before, especially for a property
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: like this where there's to be a lot of hateful reviews,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: just you know, cause people just want to hate, yeah.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: And they're trying to and in some way they're trying
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: to protect it because it's just like you don't want
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: the hateful stuff to sit in there festering, fucking up
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the review score either.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Also, I think it's because of some of the ship
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: that happens in the show, and they don't want people
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: saying it and now I kind of get it. Yeah,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: I do kind of get it. Yep, all right, moving on, Uh,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: we will be dropping a review you know, as usual
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: in our social thoughts when we are able to make
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: sure you're following on all those different channels because it
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: will be quite close to release date when we're able
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: to fully speak on this show, and Titana and I
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: are both extreme excited to talk about the show. I'm
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: already working on the all star review of iron Heart,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: so that'll be coming as well. A lot of stuff
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: coming for the show. Shout out to the Cooglers. Man,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: y'all back in a thousand this year, boy fucking out
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: the pardon fucking Ryan, I'm fucking hyph for all that
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: agent of Condon now, like yeah, yeah, And they've been talking,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: you know, cash shit on the low and I love it,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: you know they like every time I've seen somebody working
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: on each other, like, oh, we got something for y'all.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: You mentioned Ryan, did you hear the I don't know
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: how true is this word on the street.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: That like it's probably true.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: It's evil that since you know, for the first what
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: twenty five years, they own the rights. How WB is
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: thinking about making a sequel to it, you know, and
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: even without Ryan, because you know Ryan has already said
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: publicly he's not interested in any sequel, you know, rightfully that, Like.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: The Internet went up in flames on that because they
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: was like, fuck.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: You, I don't believe it's true, only because the way
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: socials work and the way that w B has seen
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: the reaction to you know, this film.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of two things.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: It's just one of the random aggregators that make us
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: ship up that just you know, made an image which
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: is what they do, and run with it, and it's
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: just fodder for for conversation like we're or some executive
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: actually sat down on the load of somebody and then
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: someone just threw it out there in the ether and
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: it just snowballs.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: It could be the same thing. It could be both.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: It could be some executive leads it to some random
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: aggregator because they want to see what they want to be.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: What one of this idea the test you're right, Then
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: it could be both.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: You're right, And I think they tested the waters and
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: saw hell no, that will not work.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: I think the waters is too hot.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very hot.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Hell to the naw I would not support nothing Sinners
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: related without the blessing or backing or leadership of Brian.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Could and no one would. Like I remember when I
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: saw this is another one of those take images you
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: talk about, like where they had him standing on the
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: stage with the Centers Universe behind him, like how does
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: and I saw for a second, I was like word,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: you know, And then I had to google and I'm
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: like sake au.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: And I was like real, told you not and told me.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I'm like bro for real, and so yeah, that's I mean,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: it's no, I can't see it, and I'm not interested
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: in seeing it without him. I am interested in seeing
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: everything his brother does from here to the end of Returner,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: you know, like I say, I'm super hype for Ages
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: of Wakanda now, but before it's just slightly hyped. Now
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, nope, all the way in.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Another thing I'm not interested in seeing. And this is
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: very controversial even for me.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: I am and I am not mostly am not interested.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: And AI created quotes and I only use, and I
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: use that very loosely the word create because AI creates nothing.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: It just regurgitates what's been fad. But when AI creates quote, music,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: that's a very much hell no for me. While there
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: may be some exceptional, very small reasons or or or
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: excuses why it may be helpful in some way or
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: outliers that have not that have yet to be defined.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: For example, King Malonious. That's actually a friend of mine
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: who did BBL Drizzy. He you know, bibl Drizzy write
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: the song.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: That one's hard.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: And that's why I say this is this is very
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: controversial even for me, because he's in a great area.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: The thing about AI, right there's there's wild wild west
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: With AI, there's no what he's saying and use one
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: of those voice things to get it.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: The sing he wrote all the lyrics and then did
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: the props and to the to the AI, I forgot
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: where a service he uses, but he did all the
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: prompts and creating. I basically say, hey, I don't know
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: what his prompt was, but I'm just this is my paraphra.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: Approach to this.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Whatever it was, right, edit whever he needs to edit,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: and then here it is so, which is why I
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: said that AI.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: In general is just.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: And Wayne did on his first song on the Welcome
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: to the Carter on the the Carter six has from
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: M I understand the voice singing this chorus is.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: AI, and and AI isn't such a as wild wild West.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Right now, there is no real legislation controlling it. There
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: are there are wishful thinking about how to deal with it,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: but it's not regulated right now.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: And this is what makes it so hard.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: For like the example I just gave about Wolonious Kinglonius,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: how it's such a great area where it's like, well,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: this is someone who really is creating, someone who really
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: is writing, but he's using the AI as a tool
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: to mix and create something new. However, the AI in
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: and of itself, which is a misnomer, AI is an
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: intelligent this is.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: This is not an A like the AI limit.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: This is a This is a machine that is fed
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: human creativity, human existence, human thought, and then it uses
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: very complex math to mix it all together.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: You know that guy on that on the IG that
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: does the that does the New York you know stuff.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: But like that's what they do, that's what the this
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: is what the miss that's what the box does. Okay,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: you throw a bunch of data into it that belongs
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: to other people and mixes it all together and then
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: approximates what it thinks should be a human output.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: H that's what that is.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: So imagine my disgust when I see and find out,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: read and and dive deep into the situation that's happening
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: with timbaland Timberland I've always respected deeply as a producer,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: deeply as a music artist, just deeply as a creative
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: dish stop.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, the first half.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: That's fine, this is about me. I've always like had
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: him on, you know, in very high regard.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: And then this ship happens where Timberland like he's backing
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: this this big AI situation, like an AI was the
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: music label, and he does a few things.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: One he'd veils an AI.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Which is an Asian quote pop singer named Tata and
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: it's it's not a real person, Okay, it's a it's
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: a Asian presenting AI that does hop music, a young
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Asian woman at that. And what they said that is
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Timberland Studio Records of demo, uploads the audio to Suno,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: which is the AI production, and then Suno expands on
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the arrangement and melody with human songwriters, adding lyrics, and
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: then it spits out a song, a completed song.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: I guess if you want to say. And in some
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: ways I said this is the gray area. You could
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: just be like, all right.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Well, they're just they're mixing in their own creativity with
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: tech to make something new. But the problem is, as
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I mentioned this quote AI, it's about it was built
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: on theft to begin with, a lot of this AI
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: is trained on human music, meaning music that was made
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: by by us for us, right, and no permission was
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: given for this to happen.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: So this approximation output.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: That is giving this new music is really just lots
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: of times bits and pieces of others people's music that
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: did not give permission for this to be used in
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: the first place.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: So that's when you.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Look at it like, okay, well wait, is this truly original,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: something new.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Or is this highway robbery?
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: And this is it's been a very sensitive topic for
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: many You're not and it's even getting deeply more sensitive
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: because people are being touched directly. The main thing about
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: this is literally Timmelin was unveiling a beat and the
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: producer of that beat.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: His name's Kay Fresh.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: He was informed that there is a part on that
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: beat that Timmelin, like you soon know to make it
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: has the producers tagging it no shit, literally and I
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: gotta see what the name of the user was because
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I want to. And the TikTok creator is the one
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: who discovered Okay, excuse me.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: K Fresh Music is the producer, and someone else.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: There was another TikToker that that actually like made it known,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: actually had an interview with K Fresh and they were like,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: did you know about this? And K Fresh said, nah,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: people kept sending it to me, and he doesn't know
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: what to think about it. Literally, Timlin is paying a
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: beat and you listen to the beat and it's just
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: like and the guy he's like, well, that sounds familiar.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Another one, it was one of his beats from a
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: few years ago, I think many years ago.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: I think at this point where you.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Can literally hear the same beat Cadence and his producer
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: tag in it.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Bar from Bar.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Some of my thoughts on it is that this of all,
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: like I said, you know that you had me in
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: the first half of Timberland, is that I wasn't disappointed
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: in this from Timberland, is because it's what I expect
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: from Timberland. I didn't know better, Oh yeah, you should
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: have known better. Versus is when I think that was
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: my not last st Like I said, I think Tim
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I mean when I talk about production genius, you know,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: he is just one of the all time greatest. To me,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: if not, like I don't like putting people on that,
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: you know, go, you know, this is the best. He
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: just one of the greatest, you know, like he is.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: He is a genius mind producer, you know, and just
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: has contributed so much to music in so many ways.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, I always talk about this, like people like
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: you got to go back to Jodice Diary of a
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Mad Band, the second Jodasy album, because he goes producers
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of it, and there was a song out
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: there I'll never forget. Miss He's on it, and it's
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: like the first time I ever heard it. Me and
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: my boy were just like, Yo, what the flying fuck
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: is this? Because it just sounded so different. And it
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: starts off with this one beat and Missy's like chanting
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: this little wrap on it, and then that stopped and
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: a whole other beat starts, and that was like one
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: of the first times I've heard that on a you know,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: hip HOPI ish R and B production, which is standard now,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: you know, like sickle mode where it's like three different
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: beats on the song. But that was like one of
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: the first times I was like, who the fuck is this,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: you know, And then a couple of years later the rain,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: you know, down the line, and man's fucking genius. But
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: like I said, with Versus, he took something that was
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: a community, cultural thing that him and Swiss had full
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: ownership of. And both of these people are complete multi millionaires.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: They will never want for a dollar in their lives.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: And they sold it.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: And they sold it, they sold it and completely disintegrated
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: any type of cultural cachet that was really what it does,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: and now it doesn't exist right now, doesn't exist. And
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: they made a buck out of it, right, That's what
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: they did. They squeet, They made the buck and moved on.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: And I understand Versus. It was like a flash flash
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: in time too because it was based off pandemic times.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: But damn it could have been here forever. There's no
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: exchoosing that. But they went for the money. And that's
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: how I got saying. So I've and Swizz I've always
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: known is a money person, you know, And I get that,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: you know. It's so it's no, it's not okay to
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: be a captains. Fuck that, you know what I mean?
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Like it's okay to make money, but when you are
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: holding millions upon millions, it just becomes like for what, dude?
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: And then when you do moves like that, like they're
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: like he's had a lot of you know whatever moves
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: to me in his life. I think Swiss and Tim
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: are both genius music musicians. But when you sold out
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: versus that was it. And then this is like, you
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, this is just one of them,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: like what the fuck? And all right? As a producer myself,
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: you know, I have used things like this is I
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: have a plug in where you can type in a
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: text promp like make these drums sound like Doctor Dre
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: two thousand and one drums, you know, and it'll be like, well,
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: now I've applied this type of reverb and this type
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: of reverb to it to make it sound like two
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: thousand and one. Now if you're drums ain't hitting like
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Doctor Dre's drums are hitting, I don't kill what reverb
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: you put to it, it ain't gonna hit like two
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: thousand and one drugs.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I think that's so weird, you know, why to pass
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: it off as your own though, like no, no.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: That is like, but that's just like applying the sound
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: Now, you mean like like like you're okay, okay.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, Like no, I have my own drum and I'm like,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: on this drum, put some reverb and some you know,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: other effects on it to make it sound like the
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: dre drums for two thousand and one. You know, that's
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: just mixing technique. Okay. Now, I've also used this other
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: thing where it's like I'll play a bassline like doo
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: doo do dodey, and you put it into this program
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: and you can put different rhythms to it, you know,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: where it'll make that baseline you know, different, sound different,
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: it'll have different complete melodies, all kinds of shit, but
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: it's still like what you input into a first now. Now,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: the only difference is that that is eventually where you
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: getting today, where you can be like yo, computer dude,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: or do joom dude, and now now fuck that up,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: you know, and I'll probably be the one who's using that.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: And that's what I mean, where it still comes from.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Your own thought process.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: And that's why I mean why I'm like it's a
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: gray area because it's like while I'm mostly against it.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: I also see the applications.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: There are an applications that where I'm just like, okay,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: if it's truly coming straight from you and you're using
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: it as a like like similar to a synthesizer, similar
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: to a MIDI machine, similar to if you're using it,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: you're speaking to the mic and then you modulate your
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: voice like you're using technology to generate. Right, then that's
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: that's that's different to me, and I like a problem.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: But then when the AI entered this picture, that's why I'm.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Just like, because I what's son on what they're trying
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: to get to is where and eventually it will be taught,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: but right now it's just text. You know, you write
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: in make me a deep house song, you know, with
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: this type of feel, and that's where in that's like
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: really weird to me, you know, or like maybe a
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: hip hop beat that sounds like timbling, you know, like
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: that's weird.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Do you think that's just not enough? Level of like?
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: And that's probably also why like this is so hard
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: of the find because at what point, like say, AI
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: is utilized, at what point is it become acceptable? Is
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: there any point that it comes to is as soon
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: as you're using AI that shit not for real no
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: more is it? Like well, yeah, for percent of it
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: was me, so I could so I could say that
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: that's true.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: And then that goes to like people would say the
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: same thing about I mean, that's most music, right because
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: people will always call out hip hop for sampling, for sampling,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: but like the majority of music is based on other
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: people's chords, et cetera. You know, people reuse chords, speed
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: them up, slow them down, do all kinds of things.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: You know, it's like that type of thing.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: So and also this is kind of neither here nor there,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: but Swizz and Timbling actually bought Versus back. They bought
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the rights, They brought the ownership back to themselves. They
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: reacquired it last year. Yeah, they ain't done shit to
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: do a partnership with X. So right, I'm like nigga,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: like y'all just keep going from bad to words.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, why not just own it y'allselves? You know, might
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: it out like y'all been putting it out like money
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: and money, And.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: You're right that, Like I should have known better when
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: it came to tim Timbling because it's just like it was, well,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: there was two more things that he did, like when
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: he revealed when he and it was like, this is
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: going back to again when he first revealed that he
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: was he had the AI, the AI.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Music label, you know, and all that stuff.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Soon so he so he said, yeah, this is my ship, right,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: So he put it out there and honestly and understandably,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: the internet was like, what the fuck, bro, Like, you're timbling.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: You're supposed to be the king of creativity that don't
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: need no machine, and here you go pushing this ship
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: that a lot of people know it is just theft
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: right in many ways, and this nigga his response was
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: he created him or his team or combination of their
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: own creating AI video response, that's like anthropomorphic animals like
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: talking shit to the internet, Like, oh y'all got a problem.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: With the AI. You know, sucks to be you. And
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: then like then he played crime or River in the background.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the one was huh, who am I kidding? I
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: knew I never had any bars like that was.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Like so like he was literally mocking everybody, and I'm
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: just like and that's I'm like, you have no empathy
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: and no like compassion, and that's why I'm just like I.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: Should have fucking known.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, I should have fucking known like it just it
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: was so fucked up and so disrespectful to like the
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: very people who got you where you are. Yes, it
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: was just such a crazy type of double dom response
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: to me. And then and then the second part of
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: this whole thing, which is as mentioned, he do this.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Oh and then you know when that producers said, hey, Tim,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: you know, like like someone brought that up to Tim.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: He think he said it all like a TikTok live
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: or something.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Tim was like Tim the mental gymnastics this man did
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: to say that it wasn't the same beat, that he
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: was just rearranging things and this and that, like it
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: was just lie after lie, like to justify what he
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: did and drive.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: To say, nah, it's not the same be and we
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: are all like bread we have we we see this,
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: we hear it. We it's the same thing. The guy come.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: And then the only part about it, Tim Lande was
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: lying talking about oh, you know, I told him, you know,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: oh you should hit up ghost Face. This sounds like
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: a ghost beat. Ghost Face wants that beat. Kate Fresh,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: the producer said, I have ghost Face number, ghost Face
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: has my number. We know each other. Ghost face, never
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: hit me up about this beat. So I'm like, you're
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: looking funny in the light.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Tim, I mean he already looked funny when he was
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: on the live with our brother Young Guru, and Guru
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: is explaining to him how AI like we said, I
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: don't even like using that works. It's not intelligent at all,
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: how the copy machine.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: And Guru was in the comments on coming section on
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: all of them posts. I was, I was in those
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: posts he did, trying to help. He was like, timbling
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: is not the way.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: No. He did a video live with him where he
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: was on it with him and he and Timbland is
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: trying to explain because Timbland doesn't even know how it's trained.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: He thought it was trained off a music theory, like
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: somehow they're feeding a computer music theory and then.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: It'd be different. But that's not what's happened, and.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: That's not how it works. That's not how it works.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. Then, how dare you not
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: know how it works? But then double down, be disrespectful
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: and be a I almost said a different word, but
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: just be fucked up about this.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Well, that's the money.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Don't know. You can't you can't tell me. You must
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: know something. You can't feign ignorant in one hand, but
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: then on the other hand you're telling me or I
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: don't know, ship, go go go make some money.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: Get the fuck out my face, Like, which one.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Is it that exactly.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: That you don't give a fuck. I am a realist.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: Tell me you don't give a fuck.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Tell me that so I know where we stand stand
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: on your own bullshit and I'm with that because now
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I know who you are.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know problem with that.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: And this is my issue, like whenever someone brings up
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: using AI to me in that nature is that it
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: will never allow for the creation of a new Timblan
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: because all it's ever going to do is take what
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Timbland has done and redo that in a different way.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: It's never going to allow for the creation of a
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: new And when I say Temblate, I mean anyone you know, MADONNAE,
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: I don't care job, you want a name. You know,
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: it's never gonna make another one of these people because
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: it will just take what has been done. One of
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: my this is great come up book, and I mean,
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: this joint is so old, but it was a Superman
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: gets into this fight with this character, I mean, not Superman,
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Captain America, the whole Avengers get into this fight with
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: this character, the super Adaptoid, and the super Adaptoid is
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: this robot that anyone he meets he can adapt. So
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: when he meets Captain America, boom, he instantly becomes a
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: copy of Captain America. And then he gets Thor's hammer,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: and then he gets that that you know, eventually he's
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: dumb powerful, and eventually, by absorbing all these different people
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: he like in this fight. You know, in these series
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: of issues, the super Adaptoy becomes like beyond their level powerful,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, able to shape reality at his will,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: do whatever he wants. So Captain America challenges him. It's
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: like the problem is, you can't think of anything. All
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: you can do is copy. And he's like, you can't
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: create anything new, And he challenges him to create something
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: new and he can't. There's nothing.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: You're a local gin, You're a copy.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And eventually he gets gonna beat him by telling
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: him he doesn't even know what life or death is
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: and you need to imitate death, and a nigga dies.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: So you know, I don't know that was trying of weird,
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: but I just always loved the first part of it,
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: when it's like, yo, you cannot create anything new, and
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: that stuck with me into this day. I do not
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: think people understand that it's like, you can't create new
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: themes when you use this type of stuff. You have
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: to put your own brain and even like the limited
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: you know, the AI that after and now when they
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: when people ask them, yo, can you create stuff like Nah,
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: we don't understand humanity, so we can't create.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: The last two points I wanted to make about this
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: is just about the mindset, and I'm gonna do the
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: one side of the mindset and the other side of
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: the mindset. So the one side of myset that I'm
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: just still very much disappointed over is Swiss Beats, right,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: that's his versus collaborator his when you mentioned that live
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: that Guru was on.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: But so there was a live that that lie was.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: With tim Swizz Guru and nineteen Keys, and Swizz was
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: defending Timbo and he said, you know, it's important for
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: black creators to get into the AI mix since white
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: creators are already doing it.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: And this is where I'm just like, here we.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Go like this.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Once I hear the sentence start that way. I'm like,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: damn it, we're already on the wrong path. Yes, they say,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: because all the white people in it, why can't we
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: get in it?
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: Again?
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Not the right starting point. I'll explained why in a minute.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I don't care how. It's not how you start, it's
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: how you finish. So this is Tim's entry point to AI,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: whether we like it or not. As an entry point. Twizz, however,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: did emphasize the need for Timbo to be transparent and
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: inform people because even he was blindsided by the news.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Y'all gotta stop doing this just because, oh, well, white
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: people do it.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying you can't do it. I'm saying, why
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: are we trying to be like that?
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: You can do it your way as a black person,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: non black person, person from there, person from everywhere. Sam
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I am, I am Sam, do it your waste. This
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: is not this type of argument where you can bring
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: that up. That's why I get upset when people say that, Well,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: the white creators are doing it, so the white creators
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: are thieving, So you want to be a thief too, Well,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: the white creats are making money of it.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: I guarantee you're not gonna make the money those white creators.
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: Do you know why the game is rigged?
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: And that's why I'm just like, you can't start the
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: sentence that way. It's not the same type of argument.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: We're not talking about fairness, like, for example, the influencers
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: who the white influencers get gets a thousand dollars and
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: the black influencer gets five hundred.
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: That's not what I'm talking about. This is not the
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: same situation.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: No, it is like that, Like the idea is that
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: because they could have made the money, like let's say
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: with versus they could have made that money they made,
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: but it would have been a harder money making and
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: it would have took longer, and they took the easy
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: way and to quick check because the longer about you know,
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: eventually that shit was gonna make you know whatever, and
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: they would have owned it forever. And Swiss like like.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: You mean saying, well, they're disrespect in the art, why can't.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: We disrespect It's so wild to me, it is, And
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: it's like that's crazy. There's this company that I've seen
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: that they're like a merch company and they're like, we
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: need more black billionaires. And I've always found an issue
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: with that cause it's like, no, we don't. We don't
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: need any more billionaires, Like, no one should have that
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: kind of cake and it does not help anyone. Like
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: the idea that if we had a billion black billionaires
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: suddenly you know, well, I mean a billion black bearris
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: ain't happen. But you know what I mean, we had
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: ten more black billionaires like that money to trickle down
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: to negroes. It's not.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: And I have to repeat again, I'm not saying that
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: we can't do it too. You can do it too, but.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Why do you have to do it that way the
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: way they do it? That's what I mean. And that's
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, no one needs a billion. I don't mind
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: a few mill of course, you know that's great, but
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: once you start getting into like how many millions do
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: you need? Fam like, that's when it's like, and that's
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: that white people should to me is to have money
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: to the exclusion of someone else, you know, like that's
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: never what my goal in life has ever to be.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: You know, like, yeah, I don't get it.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Like I said, that was the side of the thinking
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: where I'm just like, damn man, like that. I'm like,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: I know you were trying to help, but that did
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: not come off good either Swiss.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: But then the other.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Side of things where I'm when I'm fucking with that
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: frame of thought. It actually came from Rob Markman, Rob
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: market at length about this and his his clip on
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: this was was brilliant and he was just like the
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: one thing he said that ship struck the biggest.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Court of me.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: He said, what problem is AI produced music solving?
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: No, that's that is like when he said.
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: That that goes to it goes to everything with AI, right,
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: because one of the like I saw this a quote
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: from one of the dude who like runs one of
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: the biggest AI companies, and he's.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: Like, we have no, there's no use for this. There's
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: no use and he said it and there's there's there's.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Could be argument, you know, arguably some uses, but it's
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: not in from this frame.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: No, it's not in the layperson like I can make.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: We see some you know, great scientists using it to
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: solve a problem, but I don't know about that because
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: like today I see this Google commercial, you know, because
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: they're trying to push their ask Google is an alternative
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: to chat GPT, and I think they asked Google just
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: like brat GPT. I think both of them. Are you
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: know I posted this thing the other day when I
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: was like, I asked chat GTP, and I'm like I
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: don't give a fuck, you know, like I don't care.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: Like but anyway, this Google commercial was this this father
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: with their son was like, how do I get my
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: son to eat this food? And the you know, the
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: system was like elice when you draw Smoley faces, My god,
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: damn nigga, you just that dumb You don't remember your
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: fucking son, nigga? Like what the fuck are people doing
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: for thousands of years before they had this thing? Like
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: like you said, what problem is it solving? Not one
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: that you get off your fucking self. You're a terrible
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: father person this commercial, and Rob continued.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: What problem is being solved? Like what problems? Like he
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: was like, there's no shortage, like right now. The barriers
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: of entry, not to say and and the barriers are
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: entry different the barriers of success.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: Let's be very real barriers entry meaning.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Anyone could produce the song, anyone can release a song,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: anyone can get it on a TSP, literally anyone, right,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: and that does again, access does not equal success, that's understood. No,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: And that's like like there's there's all those barriers are down.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: There are countless songwriters, there are countless music makers, there
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: are countless artists of every sort, writers, instruments, you know,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: all sorts of shit in real life made by humans.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: So what you need to turn to an AI for is.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Essentially what his his statement was, Rob was talking about,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: and I was just when he said that shit about
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: what is the problem?
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: And I could not think of the fucking problem?
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: And it's like, because it goes to something that I
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: realize is that a lot of the people who are
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: proponents of AI are of the conservative ILK. I would say,
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: because conservative people don't believe that anyone has ever been oppressed,
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: you know, for the most part, right, they don't, you know,
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: get up on your own bootstraps, et cetera. And music
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: and art comes out of oppression, you know, like that's
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: the majority of art comes out of pain and feeling it.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: So if you don't believe in that, you don't believe
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: that you know the basis of making art. If you
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: don't believe that people are oppressed, you're not gonna believe
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: that they made songs to reflect this oppression. And so
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: they want to because of that, they don't like they're believing,
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: like you geatekeeping by having talent is what they believe.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: So they're like, well, I can, you know, take that
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: talent and now I can make the songs. And it's
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: just like you're missing the whole point. And like Rob said,
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: it's like the joy, the joy is in the creation.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Like people like I saw the one AI do was
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: talking about, no one likes making music.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: You don't like, yeah, you know, nigga, you don't speak
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: I'll never forget. One day, I was sitting there producing
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: a beat and I was like, yo, this is my
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: favorite video game. You know what I mean? Like this
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: is now my favorite video game. Like it's not a game,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: but that's how I felt about. It's like I'm sitting
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: in my computer and instead of playing you know, Overwatch
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: or whatever, I'm making this beat. I'm like, this is
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: the fun, the best fun I can have. And that's
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: something else. Like I made a video today talk about
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: I just released a new song on band camp, SoundCloud,
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: et cetera. A big djenergy dot com please go over
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: there and leave your email and all that, and I
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: was talking about how I don't you know, it's like
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: it's stressful like releasing music more so than it is
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: making it for me, because it's like the idea of that.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: Right now, there's like twenty thousand songs a day being
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: uploaded to SoundCloud, and there's you know, AI people making
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: songs and tembling over here, pushing the AI artists. But like,
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: at the same time, I so enjoy the action of
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: making the music that I'm going to continue to do it,
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: and I want people to hear what I've done, so
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: I'm going to continue to release it and just figure
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: out ways to get people to hear, you know, as
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: much as I can. So I just don't understand that idea,
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: Like when I read that about it, I do. When he
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: was like, people don't enjoy music, I'm like, no, no, soulless,
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: brain dead people like you don't enjoy making music. And
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: like you said, talk Town, it's like the barriers are
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: so low, you know, Like I always tell people, anyone
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: you know can learn the DJ. These days, it's so
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: much easier than it was when I first started. Music
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: is so much easier then. I mean, it becomes easier
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: every day. So I'm like, if you don't enjoyed it,
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: what it is to make music, nowadays, then you shouldn't be.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: You don't like it, and I don't know, maybe people
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: think it is.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: It's not like if it doesn't he that's your natural
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: talent and it's something you have to learn.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: Find joy in learning like that to be hard. That's
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: part of the process. That's literally how we as humans learn.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense at for when you was a
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: child that the idea of walking was foreign as fuck,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: left and right, Nigga, what what.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: Some of us figure it out right?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: And it's so weird to me because it's like it's
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: like to I don't know people, I don't want to
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: call them lazy, but I feel like they're not getting
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: how great the journey is. Right, Like over the time
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: that I've started learning to produce music, and I've been
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: DJing forever, you know what I mean. But just over
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: the time that I've learned to produce music and now
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: learning to mix music and engineer music, I hear music
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: so differently now, and that's so cool to me because
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: it's like my ears had to be trained to do that,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: even though they've been trained as a DJ all these years.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: Because I learned to hear music in a completely different way.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: When I started DJing. But now it's like I hear
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: music in a other different way, and it's like if
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: I told a computer to make these beats, that would
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: have never happened.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Everything you do in this life as a human being
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: is learned, the most mundane thing, including typing.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: On your phone. You didn't know how to do that.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: You making a text message, it's the most mundane action
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: that a lot of people just be like, ahs, whatever.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: But it required learning.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: There was a time when you were too little or
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: just wasn't clicking for you, where it didn't make any sense,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: just like with being able to read it. Just little
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: kid looks at it, looks a little piece of paper
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: and they're like, what the fuck is that?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: Right, looks like simplish, Who the hell knows what that is? Right?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: But it required constant learning, it required assistance, It required,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: like you said, the joy of the of the journey,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: and and yes the journey wasn't always joyful.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: The tears came along with it.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: But it's just like that idea that maybe people want
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: those short they don't want the pain, They just want
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: to get to the the angle. But y'all do know
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: the angle don't mean money. Right, because that might not
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: happen either. Then what the angle don't mean you're a
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: successful DJ or you're a successful artist, like you could
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: still be in the trench with everybody else with your stolen.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: Music and understand like it's wild to me. It's just.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: It's not so much and I'm gonna even give it
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: to them. It's not so much the aspect of like
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: just trying the AI anyway, it's the attitude behind it,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: like fuck you, I'm gonna do this anyway. But like
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: that's what gets me. I'm just like, damn, so we
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: don't even want to listen.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, it was the original creator I had to
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: say about it.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, it was just like from the jump,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: like I said, I I've long since written off Tim
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: and Swiss as pure capitalists. But when he made the
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: announcement talk about I've invented a new genre of music.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: I mean genre is like the dumbest bullshit in the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: world first of all, and the audacity to be like
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: or he said, I'm not producing songs anymore. I'm producing
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: stories and systems like niggas and taking the mouth. You
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: know what i mean. I'm talking about your own you know,
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  Speaker 3: because it's like, let's not sucking, you know, let's not.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna end.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: This was something a little lighter and and this is
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  Speaker 1: this is not exactly what is meant by this phrase,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: but you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
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  Speaker 4: Not exactly what was meant by that, but this is
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  Speaker 4: this is it was it?
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  Speaker 1: That phrase means no no no no no no no.
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  Speaker 3: What I mean what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Why that There's another take on that phrase is that
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: like you're you're you're constantly doing good that the people
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: turn on you.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's what I'm saying. That's a that's another The
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: take is you lived long enough to see yourself become
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  Speaker 4: the villain. My nigga and you.
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  Speaker 3: That's the ke you know that's to take. Well, you
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: know that's just hating on me. That's the take you
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: would take.
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  Speaker 4: No, not hated. You're being the villain right now. Not agree.
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  Speaker 1: And my niggas was trying to tell you in the
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: chat chat, was trying to tell you please don't ruin
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: your legacy on this ship.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: Bro. But that's the thing, like I said, again, we
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: should have been there. He did trifling ship with the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: LEAs legacy. He did uh super trifling ship with Biggie
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: with AI that people quit to forget, and Groog called
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: his out, I.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Don't know what you tell me.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: I don't even know that shit happened.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: Was on his ig and dropped the song that I
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: guess he made it beat now who even knows, but
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: he had an Ai Biggie rapping over it, and at
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: one point Biggie said, what did he say? Oh my god,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: it was so terrible. It was like a current phrase
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: like uh, period?
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: Did he say period?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: It was like, uh, what's the feels? Like? Oh god,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: I remember me and tie Ty the Robot were both
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: like what the fuck? It was some yeah shout out
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: to tie It was some current phrase that Biggie said. Well,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: it was just like it was like it was like
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: him saying yeah, it's like I'm saying period, you know.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: And it was like you was in current a V.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: And it's just like you weren't around for.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: That, you did, You've been dead Like you know, no,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: this is man, but you've been dead, bro, you know
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: what I mean? Like no, and it was and Tim
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: was like and what really hurt me the most was
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: when he was like, you know, I never got to
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: work with biggie, and now I have no you didn't like, No, no,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: you didn't and what everybody said in the comments, and
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: you know, obviously you know he did not care because
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: he continued down in his path and that check cleared.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: And I'm just giving Timbo the uh, the Leonardo DiCaprio squint,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: you know from inception when he's just looking at his
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: man's like, that's that's.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: The twin I'm giving him right now.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: I'm giving him the onward hope. You know what I mean.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: And I mean that, you know, onward hope.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: You know, did you have anything else?
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: No? No, I think I think you know. It's thank God.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, man, man, you know damn it. You
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: know it hurts like it hurts because I love this nigga.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: Like that Yo, that nigga took Devo and made that
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: tweet song. Like the way he flipped that Devo shit
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: in the tweet, It's like, God, this nigga's insane. You know.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: It's like, as a producer, it's like God damn. Whenever
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: I see these niggas who flip samples like that, I'm
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: just like God damn, cause I don't flip like that.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Like I do my little thing, but these niggas is different,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I'm just like, and
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: how you're doing this, Like you found joy in making
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: that music brouh, and you go take not like this,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: not like this, Like Drew told me the story of
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: how shout out to young Girl when uh he came
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: to the studio and made the whole Loho Veto beat
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: in front of him, m in like twenty minutes or something,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: you know, thirty minutes, that whole joint, you know, like
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: because Jay didn't want no old for that album, so
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: he made that ship right there.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: Mmm.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Like we you know everyone's seen that video when he
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: plays Jay all those beats, you know, like he plays
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: in the Ludacris took that beat, the potion beat, He
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: played him that and he plays dirt off your shoulder.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: Like I feel like we're mourning somebody already.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like you know, it is just you know,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: it's like niggas die every day, be niggas die in
• 1:07:24
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• 1:07:27
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