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Furtive Gator, Flashback Friday, Fire-bombing · Rich Valdés: This is America!

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  Speaker 1: This is America with Rich Valdez powered by polidweek dot Com.
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  Speaker 2: And Rich Valdees is with us former Christian administration officials.
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  Speaker 3: You work at Chris Christieve and Follist each a lot
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  Speaker 3: of public service stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Rich Valdez calumnist now with the Washington Times.
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  Speaker 5: This is America, got Richiev. You're on the air with
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  Speaker 5: A Nation with America with your host, Rich Valdez.
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  Speaker 6: What's up, America.
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  Speaker 4: I am Rich Valdes Valdez within us that Rich Valdez
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  Speaker 4: on all of the social media. Happy Friday, Happy to
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  Speaker 4: be here with you. Very very blessed to be here
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  Speaker 4: with each and every one of you. And a few
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  Speaker 4: things we're going to get into tonight. Why well, because
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  Speaker 4: that's what we do around here. And I want to
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  Speaker 4: start off with something because you know, as I keep
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  Speaker 4: your company this evening and try to fight the good
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  Speaker 4: fight for freedom and faith and family value, I say
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  Speaker 4: ndcontodo right. Blessings to all of you from the bustling
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  Speaker 4: streets of the New York City here to the sunny
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  Speaker 4: shores of Florida and California, wherever you are listening to
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  Speaker 4: this program. We've got the liberals that are out there
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  Speaker 4: singing louder than the Cooquies are singing in Puerto Rico.
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  Speaker 4: They really are. They got all sorts of liberal excuses
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  Speaker 4: these days. And I want to dive into a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of headlines on this Friday, because well that's what we do.
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  Speaker 4: So grab your conface, he do, sit back, and let's
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  Speaker 4: unpack this crazy world together, because as the old saying goes,
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  Speaker 4: freedom isn't free, but it's worth every single penny. First off,
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  Speaker 4: I want to go to the national political headlines, and
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  Speaker 4: President Trump's administration is firing on all cylinders, announcing a
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  Speaker 4: massive border security overhaul today, beaving up the wall with
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  Speaker 4: new technology that could spot a coyote from a mile away.
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  Speaker 6: No fun intended.
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  Speaker 4: And get this, the Democrats are already crying foul, calling
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  Speaker 4: it inhumane, inhumane. Tell that to the families who've lost
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  Speaker 4: loved once to fentanel that's been flooding in. Meanwhile, over
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  Speaker 4: in Congress, you've got Speaker Mike Johnson pushing a bill
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  Speaker 4: through to defund what he calls woken doctrination in schools.
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  Speaker 4: And goodbye to gender theory, hello to good old American history.
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  Speaker 4: And in a plot twist straight out of a Nobela
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  Speaker 4: from like Telemundo or when hebis young aoc all out crazy,
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  Speaker 4: he might at least favorite congressman from the Bronx and
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  Speaker 4: Queens tweeted out something about climate justice and tying it
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  Speaker 4: into this believe it or not, this stuff that Mike
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  Speaker 4: Johnson's talking about. So honestly, her tweet is about as
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  Speaker 4: coherent as let's say.
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  Speaker 6: Binata in a hurricane. Right. Anyway, all I could say
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  Speaker 6: to that is I ofendeed.
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  Speaker 4: Though, if we can only bottle that energy that she
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  Speaker 4: had for something useful, like maybe getting rid of prostitution
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  Speaker 4: in her district, maybe maybe we'd be onto something.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 4: I want to get into something a little bit more lighthearted,
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  Speaker 4: as you guys are unwhining for the evening, and it's
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  Speaker 4: a funny human interest story that I think I'll have
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  Speaker 4: you chuckling, like, you know, like a like a little
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  Speaker 4: fat kid getting tickled.
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  Speaker 6: Now, pictured this in Florida.
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  Speaker 4: You got a guy that tried to smuggle guess what,
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  Speaker 4: a live alligator into a Miami nightclub. Now, you guys know,
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  Speaker 4: I love Miami, I love the weather, I love the
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  Speaker 4: palm trees, but listen, smuggling an alligator into a nightclub
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  Speaker 4: is the first for me, It's the first I've heard.
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  Speaker 4: He was claiming it was his quote emotional support animal.
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  Speaker 4: The bouncers weren't buying it. Neither was the gator who
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  Speaker 4: snapped at the bouncer before. Before it was it and
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  Speaker 4: its owner were escorted out and am he goes, I
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  Speaker 4: could say, only in America?
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  Speaker 6: Are you hearing stories like that? Right? Anyway, if.
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  Speaker 4: If you have a story like that with the alligators,
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  Speaker 4: I want you to give me a call. We're going
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  Speaker 4: The number is eight seven seven val Desk one, eight
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  Speaker 4: seven seven val Desk one. You can give me a call,
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  Speaker 4: and if you're calling during the time that we are
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  Speaker 4: producing the show, you will get right on. If not,
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  Speaker 4: you can leave a voice message. How cool is that?
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  Speaker 4: Just leave it in the manner that we could directly
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  Speaker 4: play on the radio, so you know, tape to live
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  Speaker 4: kind of thing.
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  Speaker 6: So don't sit there, go Hi, Am I on? Is
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  Speaker 6: this on? Hello? Hello? Is this on?
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  Speaker 4: Can I talk to Rich? You're on? Once that thing
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  Speaker 4: goes off, you're on, and we're gonna play it as such.
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  Speaker 4: So if it comes out good, we're going to play
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  Speaker 4: it on the radio. Obviously, we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 4: your your thoughts on whatever topic you weigh in on,
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  Speaker 4: especially if it's one of the hot topics that we're
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  Speaker 4: covering here. But anyway, do you think this guy was
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  Speaker 4: facing any charges for bringing the alligators to a nightclub?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe a little litle bit more on that later, but
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  Speaker 4: I want to shift gears into something that's a little
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  Speaker 4: bit more important on the medical and health front, because well,
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  Speaker 4: you know, our well being. It really isn't a joke, right,
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  Speaker 4: We have to take that stuff seriously. And there's a
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  Speaker 4: new study out from the CDC that warns that a
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  Speaker 4: spike in respiratory viruses this winter is on the way,
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  Speaker 4: and it's urging folks to boost their immune systems with
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  Speaker 4: good old vitamin D and zinc. Nothing wrong with that, now,
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  Speaker 4: all I could say is, please none of the experimental
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  Speaker 4: jab nonsense unless your doctor absolutely says so.
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  Speaker 6: But here's the kicker. Check this out.
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  Speaker 4: Researchers that Johns Hopkins are touting a breakthrough in natural
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  Speaker 4: remedies showing the compounds from tropical plants almost like.
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  Speaker 6: You know, Puerto.
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  Speaker 4: Ricans using vis right vapor rub or as we call it,
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  Speaker 4: Vapo rub can cure everything from colds to hangovers, and
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  Speaker 4: they're saying that these natural plants could fight inflammation better
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  Speaker 4: than some of the over the countermeds that we use,
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  Speaker 4: especially if you're like me and you like a good mufungo,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the mashed up plantains. Staying healthy means more
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  Speaker 4: time enjoying life, more time eating mufongo, more time with
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  Speaker 4: the palm trees, more time in Miami, more time in
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  Speaker 4: Puerto Rico. You know, you get where I'm going with this.
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  Speaker 4: Not locked into a hospital bed. Nobody wants to be there, so,
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  Speaker 4: like always, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound
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  Speaker 4: of cure. And all of this got me thinking, I
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  Speaker 4: appreciate the work that Secretary Kennedy's doing, and I wonder
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  Speaker 4: is it making the type of impact that it should.
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  Speaker 4: Are we as a society or we as Americans becoming healthier?
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  Speaker 4: Are we doing the right thing now? I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if we are or we aren't, I have to say,
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  Speaker 4: but I think that it's it's critical that we put
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  Speaker 4: emphasis on that.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 4: We've got a lot of young people that are starting
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  Speaker 4: their crappy diets a little younger then you're supposed to
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  Speaker 4: write talking to somebody the other day, young person twenties
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  Speaker 4: I think, and they were telling me about how what
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  Speaker 4: they eat right, And they're like, oh, you lost a
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  Speaker 4: lot of weight.
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  Speaker 6: How'd you do it?
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  Speaker 4: And I said, well, you know, I and you know,
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  Speaker 4: at first I stopped eating carbs pretty much, almost entirely,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, I resumed a little bit of carbs.
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  Speaker 4: And bottom line is, if you eliminate carbs and unnecessary
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  Speaker 4: sugars and stop drinking all your calories and drinking sugar
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  Speaker 4: every time you drink or drink, you know, whether it
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  Speaker 4: be a sports drink or a soda or anything like that,
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  Speaker 4: you do the diet version. And again, of course, the
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  Speaker 4: people that advocate for sugar and high fructose corn syrup
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  Speaker 4: are always going to poop poo the diet stuff.
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  Speaker 6: The only say oh, I hate this, I hate the
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  Speaker 6: taste of diet. After that, I'd rather not drink anything.
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  Speaker 4: Or they'll say something like this, well, you know, the
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  Speaker 4: diet stuffs not that much better for you. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it doesn't kill you for sugar, it'll kill
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  Speaker 4: you for cancer. I can tell you this. Look, I
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  Speaker 4: haven't gotten cancer, thank god. Knock on wood, knock on metal,
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  Speaker 4: knock on radio equipment here, and I gave it up
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  Speaker 4: a long time ago.
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  Speaker 6: Sugar.
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  Speaker 4: I don't buy the cane sugar stuff. I don't buy
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  Speaker 4: the fructose stuff. I don't buy any of that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I use the other stuff that they say is no
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  Speaker 4: good for you, like sucralose and other artificial sweeteners. And
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  Speaker 4: again not advocating for them, but I am saying way
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  Speaker 4: better for you. You're not gonna You're not gonna gain weight,
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  Speaker 4: and weight gain is directly tied to killing people.
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  Speaker 6: Mean, it's the bottom line.
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  Speaker 4: People are dying from from weight, excess weight obesity. This
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  Speaker 4: is why you have all these these drugs like Mountjarro
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  Speaker 4: and ozempk and all these other things that are managing
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  Speaker 4: blood sugar and helping you to lose weight to reverse
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  Speaker 4: these blood sugar issues type two diabetes, pre diabetes, all
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  Speaker 4: of that stuff, insulin resistance.
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  Speaker 6: So excuse me.
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  Speaker 4: Bottom line here, we have to lose weight because sugar
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  Speaker 4: feeds cancer, It causes premature death, It cuts off years
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  Speaker 4: of your life, Your life expectancy gets cut in half.
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  Speaker 4: Being overweight, not just obese, It increases your mortality risk. Right,
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  Speaker 4: So it's like some people are like what we call chubby,
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  Speaker 4: you know, or I don't know, just you know.
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  Speaker 6: Like a little extra that's literally disease.
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  Speaker 4: And I have some right, I went from being morbidly
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  Speaker 4: obese to being chubby to having a few extra pounds,
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  Speaker 4: and maybe I'm in between having a few extra pounds
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  Speaker 4: and chubby at this point. And yeah, you do have
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  Speaker 4: to kind of obsess over your health. You can't just say, listen,
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  Speaker 4: I have fun everything in moderation. Just imagine that. Imagine
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  Speaker 4: you're consuming poison and you say something, look, everything in moderation.
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  Speaker 6: Little poison ain't bad for you. No, it is.
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  Speaker 4: Little poison is very bad for you. There's certain things
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  Speaker 4: you really just shouldn't have. And I think sometimes we
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  Speaker 4: confuse this little moderation idea, which I don't agree with personally.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that a little bit of anything bad
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  Speaker 4: is good for you. But I do believe that.
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  Speaker 6: We should.
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  Speaker 4: Take things for what they are and weigh them accordingly.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, some people might say, oh, listen, I
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  Speaker 4: don't need burgers every day.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 4: If the next part of that sentence is yeah, once
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  Speaker 4: or twice a year, I might go out with my
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  Speaker 4: friends I have a big burger, all right.
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  Speaker 6: That might be that person.
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  Speaker 4: But if it's more like, you know, once a week,
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  Speaker 4: I'll have McDonald's, this is a very bad trend, very
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  Speaker 4: bad trend. Even once a month is a bad trend.
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  Speaker 4: I think we're probably off better with that once every
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  Speaker 4: six months that we were just talking about. And I
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  Speaker 4: know it sounds extreme, but that's how it's got to be.
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  Speaker 7: Now.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, I have my bad days and my good days,
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  Speaker 4: and I wasn't planning on going off on this weight stuff,
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  Speaker 4: but I mean, poor diet causes high blood pressure, high cholesterol,
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  Speaker 4: heart attacks, strokes, type two diabetes, cancers, all sorts of cancers,
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  Speaker 4: and put strain on your organs because of like fatty
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  Speaker 4: liver disease and whatnot. Respiratory problems, sleep apnea which I
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  Speaker 4: used to have years ago. Had to have that surgery
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  Speaker 4: where it's called a UPPP where they remove your uvula
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  Speaker 4: and open up your airway in lieu of you having
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  Speaker 4: to sleep with a mask on continually pushing forced air.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, these things can be really really bad for you,
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  Speaker 4: not to mention making you tired all the time. So anyway,
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  Speaker 4: I want to talk about that. I want to talk
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  Speaker 4: about people that are also wildcats, and I did a
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  Speaker 4: show a while back.
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  Speaker 7: It was.
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  Speaker 6: It was an interesting show.
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  Speaker 4: I had a few great times, actually, and and I
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  Speaker 4: wanted to I wanted to bring it up to you
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  Speaker 4: because we talked about communism and how people are creating
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  Speaker 4: new communists. You know, I'm gonna call him communist crusaders,
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  Speaker 4: and that's what I called it. When I did the
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  Speaker 4: show a couple of years ago. It started off with
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  Speaker 4: me talking about the fire that started in front of
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  Speaker 4: the Fox News building. I don't know if you remember,
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  Speaker 4: but a guy, I don't want to say a homeless man.
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  Speaker 4: He was homeless, but he was more like one of
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  Speaker 4: these crazy people that shouldn't use the term crazy right,
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  Speaker 4: emotionally disturbed people that had a bone to pick. And
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  Speaker 4: he wasn't well, it's really the bottom line. He set
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  Speaker 4: the Christmas tree in the plaza at Fox News on fire.
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  Speaker 4: It opened up the conversation to a lot of different
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  Speaker 4: things at the time. And you know, I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: pull up that episode and I'll play it as a
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  Speaker 4: flashback for you since it is Flashback Friday here and
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  Speaker 4: I want I want to share that with you, But
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  Speaker 4: in doing that, I will also fill you in on
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  Speaker 4: the NEWSMAX Christmas party that was coming up this Monday.
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  Speaker 4: All so brand new show coming up this Monday as well.
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  Speaker 4: We'll catch you up on everything that happened over the
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  Speaker 4: weekend and into Monday, as well as Tuesday and the
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  Speaker 4: VALDESK with an S. Eight seven seven. Excuse me, Valdez one.
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  Speaker 4: I am Rich Valdez. It's Friday, December twelfth, twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 4: Straight ahead. A little bit on that throwback I was
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  Speaker 4: telling you about. Don't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 5: This is America. This is America.
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  Speaker 1: He's brown, he's bald, and he's breaking it down. Oh
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  Speaker 1: he still has some what's his day, Rich Valdez?
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  Speaker 6: All right on me, hegoes. Welcome back. It's rich Valdes
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  Speaker 6: Valdez with an S. That Rich Valdez.
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  Speaker 4: Not all of the social media seventeen blocks minutes floors
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  Speaker 4: away from Madison Square, guard man, I've done them all
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  Speaker 4: and happy to be with you this evening. Rich Valdes
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  Speaker 4: as well for the show. Lots of cool technology coming out.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of like it and something I want to
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  Speaker 4: get into again. I mentioned I wanted to play a
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  Speaker 4: flashback episode for you, but I was talking about that
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  Speaker 4: fired and I erupted a couple of years ago in
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  Speaker 4: front of the Fox News building and how there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of crazy people in the world, and just the
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  Speaker 4: same way there's crazy people right now, and those crazy
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  Speaker 4: people are still doing crazy things. We see them, you know,
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  Speaker 4: shooting people, harming people, doing all sorts of untoward things.
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  Speaker 4: And it reminded me of how this type of bedlam,
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  Speaker 4: this is how the Marxist style onists do what they do.
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  Speaker 4: They like the chaos, They thrive in the chaos. They're
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  Speaker 4: able to use government control in the chaos and get
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  Speaker 4: people to bow at the altar of collectivism, the altar
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  Speaker 4: of Marxism. And sadly this is what happens then, and
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  Speaker 4: it's what happens now.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway, Here are my thoughts on that.
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  Speaker 4: Topic and a couple of other things related to communism
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  Speaker 4: from a couple of years ago on this Flashback Friday edition.
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  Speaker 6: Check this out.
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  Speaker 7: Now.
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  Speaker 4: What I find interesting, or I should say, maybe even
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  Speaker 4: problematic with this is that this isn't the first time
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  Speaker 4: we've seen people attack targets to make political statements.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 4: In March of nineteen fifty four, there was armed terrorists
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  Speaker 4: representing a Puerto Rican separatist group that shot members of
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  Speaker 4: Congress right, the fa LN and other groups.
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  Speaker 8: I believe they're called.
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  Speaker 4: La Fusas Armadas, nose Ke de Liberta, something like that.
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  Speaker 6: They're crazy.
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  Speaker 4: In March of nineteen seventy one, a bomb was set
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  Speaker 4: off in the Capitol by friends of guess who that's right,
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  Speaker 4: Barack Obama, And again in nineteen eighty three. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: this is not new. This has been a mo of
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  Speaker 4: the left for quite some time, using fire, using deception
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  Speaker 4: to distract you. Right, they set a fire so you
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  Speaker 4: can look over here while we do this. It's to
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  Speaker 4: create that sense of everything's crumbling turned to the government.
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  Speaker 4: It's a very Marxist Leninist tactic, and I talked about
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  Speaker 4: this some years ago in a podcast that we did of.
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  Speaker 8: Why they use fire the way they do.
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  Speaker 4: But I might do it again because you know that
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  Speaker 4: stuff needs refreshing and revisiting. But I got some really
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  Speaker 4: good stuff for you today, so you do not want
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  Speaker 4: to miss what we have today.
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  Speaker 7: Now.
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  Speaker 4: What I find interesting is that there's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: this that's gone on right Some of the more modern
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  Speaker 4: left wing terrorist groups in the United States developed from
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  Speaker 4: remnants of the Weather Underground, the Weathermen and other extremist
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  Speaker 4: elements from the Students for a Democrat Society known as
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  Speaker 4: SDS back in nineteen seventy three nineteen seventy five. There
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  Speaker 4: was another one, another group, a bunch of bank robbery murders,
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  Speaker 4: all that stuff you've heard from Joe Connor on this
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  Speaker 4: program talking about how his dad was killed in the
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  Speaker 4: bombing at Francis Tavern in Manhattan. So there's a lot.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of this that's going on, and it's
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  Speaker 4: happened over the years. And one of those bombers, Samuel Melville,
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  Speaker 4: actually taught the Puerto Rican separatist group the FALN and
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  Speaker 4: others that were doing bombings how to use bombs, how
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  Speaker 4: to create pipe bombs because he was an engineer and
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  Speaker 4: turned into a crazy radical bomber and ultimately paid some
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  Speaker 4: very very hefty prices for the choices that he made.
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  Speaker 4: And there's a brand new book that we're going to
• 17:36
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• 17:40
  Speaker 4: and it's written by his son, Joshua Melville, and it's
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: a real look inside the mind of a serial bomber,
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: a serial domestic terrorist. And the title again, American time
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Bomb attic a Sam Melville and a son's search for
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: answers and a fascinating story. My purpose is not to
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: attack him, to interrogate him, to beat him up. I
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: don't want to hit him over the head. I just
• 17:59
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• 18:01
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I'm not negating the fact that there are these
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: far right radicals, you know, the ones that have tried
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: to blow up aportion clinics, the ones that the Timothy mcveighs,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: and those people whack jobs. I think whack jobs exist
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  Speaker 4: on both sides of the Aisle. But for sure it's
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  Speaker 4: part of the Marxist Leninist communist movement. This is part
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  Speaker 4: and parcel of what they do. I've never been to
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  Speaker 4: MERCEDI slap the whole team over there. I've never been
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: to a seapack where they set to blow something up.
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  Speaker 4: Violence isn't part of the conservative equation the way it
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: is part of the left wing equation with the Marxist,
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: the Leninists, the socialists. This is what they do. They
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: use these tactics to get their way. That's what makes
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: those that use this tactic terrorists to begin with. Now, listen,
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: whether this Christmas tree in New York City at the
• 19:00
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  Speaker 4: The interview with Joshua Melville, author of American Time Bomb, Attica,
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  Speaker 4: listen to this. I'm Rich Valdez.
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  Speaker 4: All right, America, welcome back Rich Valdez. Valdez with an S.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: And as promised, it's kind of like that TV show
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: that we watched, Inside the Mind. In this case, it's
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: inside the mind of a homegrown terrorist?
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: How do they get there?
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: And we're going to get the birds I view from
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: his son, who's had the courage to write a book
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: about it and tell this story. I'm really happy that
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: he's here because I think so much of the time,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: especially us, in political talk, we talk about things in
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: a very abstract manner, but we don't really know what
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: really happened. What is the family thinking, Who are the
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: people that are involved in these radical movements? How does
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: it happen? So I think we're going to get to
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: the bottom of that. But I want to read you
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: an excerpt.
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: From the book.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: To me, it was very moving and it starts with this, says,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: the day we met, Sharon was living in a more
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: sedate life in Brooklyn, heights in a townhouse with a
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: new husband and a new last name. The remains of
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: the fierce radical were reduced to an earthy sun dress
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: and a turquoise pendant. She kept her hair long, however,
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: to train the frizz. She wore it like a nest
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: atop her head working in the law because that kept
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: them together, connected to their cause. When asked what she
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: did by strangers, she would just simply say, I'm a mom,
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: and she must have been good at it too. Her
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: hug took the wind out of me. My god, it's
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: like being in a time machine. You look so much
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: like him, and by him. We're talking about Sam Melville,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: a dad who became a radical in progressive politics and
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: the anti war movement in the sixties, ended up becoming
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: a bomber. I think this is a remarkable story because
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: we see so much of this kind of repeating today,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: people becoming increasingly violent, increasingly hostile in the effort for
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: quote unquote social justice. It's interesting to see this dichotomy.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: So I want to bring in Joshua Melville. He's the
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: son of Sam Melville, the convicted bomber who wrote the
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: book American time Bomb Attica Sam Melville and a Son's
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Search for answers. Joshua, Welcome to This is America.
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: Thank you Rich, thanks for having me.
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: It's my pleasure. I really and I met every word
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: of that.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: I really, I have a lot of respect for you
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: coming forward, irrespective of differences politically that we may have
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: or I may have with your dad's movement. I'm really
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: curious to know what it was like in the home,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: what it was like, you know, from your perspective, because
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: you know a quick story. My dad, I found out
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: after we buried him, was muscle for a little illegal
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: gambling front in the back up about egguy in Brooklyn, right.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I didn't lose any respect for him. It was just
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: something that I was like, Wow.
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: I didn't know that, you know, when he was a
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: younger man.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: So I think sometimes as kids we always look at
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: our dad as a hero and whatnot, and that begins
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: to change as we get older and we learn how
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: things really are. Sometimes tell us a little bit about
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: what it was like being his son. Tell us who
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: was Sam Melville to you?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Well, as I call him in the introduction of the book,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: he was kind of my giant.
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: He was.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: He was the one man amusement park, and I was
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: the only one in line for the ride.
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: I was his only child, and he was everything to me.
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: And then, you know, one day he wasn't there anymore.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I was seeing him only on weekends, and then those
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: weekends became more intermittent, and then one day he kind
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: of just disappeared, and I started talking to him through letters.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: He told me that he was going to go work
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: on an Indian reservation to help Native Americans, and then
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: we started corresponding through letters, and then one day the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: letters stopped. And then about a year and a half later,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: when I was eleven years old, my mother sat me
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: down and explained to me why my father had disappeared.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: That he had gone underground, that he'd been part of
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: a radical movement to bomb buildings to protest the US
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: involvement in Vietnam, and that he was killed in a
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: large prison uprising which since then has become known as
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: the Attica Uprising of nineteen seventy one. And the way
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: my mother portrayed my father's involvement in all this was
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: very passive. You know, he was betrayed, He was led
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: astray and betrayed by crazy hippies. Was the explanation she
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: gave me for why he did these things. But as
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I discovered through my research years later, which is revealed
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: in the book, he was actually very proactive in this.
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: He wasn't led astray.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: He was, if anything, doing the leading, and the group
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: that he was involved in ended up becoming inspirational for
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: dozens of other RATS groups, some of which the FBI
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: continued to hunt well after his death into the nineteen
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: seventies and eighties.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: So how did he get from point A from to B,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: you know, from being a regular guy that all of
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: a sudden becomes this radical that starts bombing things.
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: Well, it started with his relationship with his father.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: My grandfather was an organizer in the Communist Labor Party
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: of America, and he ended up becoming.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: An officer in that organization.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: And in the nineteen fifties, my father was exposed to
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: many intense radical minds, liberal radical minds of the time,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: including celebrities like Paul Robeson, And he didn't become radicalized
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: at that point, but he did, you know, start to
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: adopt his father's point of view of communist politics and
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: how communism should be, you know, at least a third
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: party to our two party system in America.
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: But then he and his.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Father had a falling out because, and this is kind
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: of ironic, his father remarried, had another baby, and in
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: that marriage he decided to become middle class.
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: His wife at that point wanted, you know, a big.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: House, long island with the pool, and to send the
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: kids to private school. And so my grandfather quit the
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Communist Labor Party and bought a restaurant to become a
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: business person. And this enraged my father. He felt that
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: his father had sold out and become a hypocrite. And
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I guess he was determined to never follow in his
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: father's footsteps and became one of those I'll never be
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: like a person like my old man kind of situation.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: And he, you know, at that point in time, he
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: had done the exact opposite. He had betrayed most of
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: his personal politics. At the behest of my mother. He
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: had gotten a job as an engineer and a successful
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: consulting and design firm in New York, and he worked
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: on the plumbing engineering for Brooklyn, Borough Hall, Lincoln Center,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: a number of other famous buildings.
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: He was successful at what he did.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: He was living in a large apartment on the upper
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: west side of the dorm building, pretty much emulating everything
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: he hated about his father. And so at that point
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: in time he decided to quit all that and he
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: left my mother, He left me, he went underground. He
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: eventually quit his job because they asked him to design
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: apartheid bathrooms in a mall in South Africa, and he
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: didn't feel that dirty water can distinguish between the color
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: of a person's skin, and he didn't feel he had
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: the talents to design racist toilets. So he quit and
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: he went underground, and he started a radical cell and
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: they ended up bombing around fourteen buildings to protest the
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: US imperialism.
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: And involvement in the Vietnam War.
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: So let's walk us through that a little bit, because
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously there was an anti war protesting and
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: the communist influence for sure, But some of them were
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: they all federal buildings or what was the makeup of
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: the buildings? Where were these buildings?
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: They were all in New York City, somewhere in the
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Chicago area. They were not all federal buildings, but the
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: two that he ended up confessing to were federal buildings,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: which was the Army White Hall induction Center in the
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Whitehall Street in downtown New York, which is not there anymore.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: And the Federal Building which is part of the Courthouse
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: District in New York, which is the offices of most
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: federal judges in the United States.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Wow. Well, Joshua Melville, the book is American time Bomb.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: We're gonna get to a little bit more of that.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Don't move a muscle, keep it locked right there. I'm
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Rich Valdez. This is America, This.
• 28:38
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• 28:46
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• 28:47
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• 28:51
  Speaker 8: All right, America, welcome back.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: So we're jumping right back into this interview with Joshua Melville,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: son of Samuel Melville. I mean, we were just talking
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: about who became radicalized, an engineer who became a homegrown
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: terrorist in the name of communism, doing anti word protesting,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: bombing federal buildings in New York.
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: And my question to you, Joshua.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Is did you guys, obviously you saw some of this happening,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: but did your mom notice it before you did? Where
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: the neighbors tipped off, did anybody say, man, he's really
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: gone off the deep end? He's wearing hammers and sickles
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: or did it seem very natural this progression.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: So my mother and he were separated by this point,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: and he was not really in communication with her. She'd
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: hired a couple of attorneys to see if she can
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: find him where it was working, but that was proved unsuccessful.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: He was good at avoiding attorneys, as he was good
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: at avoiding the FBI. But she would see in the
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: papers buildings that were bombed and she just had an
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: instinct that it was him because of everything she.
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: Knew about him.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: And you have to remember this was the time in
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: America where there was a lot of protests and there
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: was a lot of Molotov cocktail style bombing. Yeah, but
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: no one had really bombed the sky Ice graper yet
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: with a time device, and so he was the.
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: First to do that.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: There were other radical groups in other countries who were
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: doing that, but he was the first to do it
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: here in that period of time.
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: And the big one came when.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Marine Midland Bank was blown up in June I believe
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: of nineteen sixty nine.
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: No one was killed.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: And it's important that your listeners understand there's a big
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: difference between the type of bombings my father did versus
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: what you might expect from what we would call radical
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: radical extremists today. My father chose his targets based on
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: their political significance, excuse me, and he designed the bombs
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: that they wouldn't harm anybody.
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: They always went off at two o'clock in the morning.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: He was an engineer, so he knew where to place
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: the bombs and designed them that they would just cause
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: property damage. And this is very different from extremists today
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: who choose their targets based on convenience and also based
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: on the amount of collateral dead that they can inflict
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: for their cause. So there's a big difference seen my
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: father's version of what we might call terrorism versus Timothy
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: McVeigh style terrorism or radical extremist terrorism.
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was trying to make a point and not
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: hurt people in the process, is what I read.
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: That's correct.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: He considered himself a pacifist, as are the historians have
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: written about him.
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: Now, when with these bombings did he ultimate did he
• 31:20
  Speaker 8: ever drop the ball?
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: Did people?
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: Did he end up killing people in these bombings?
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: No, no one was ever killed in any of his bombings,
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: got it?
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So unlike the crazy radicals from my parents island
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: of Puerto Rico that bombed France's tavern and other groups.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: They were leaving a trailer bodies and yes, and aiming
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: cops and whatnot.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: If you're familiar with the Puerto Rican national group called Myra,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: my father was at the m i R.
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: A good Google search on that one.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: My father was one of my father's cohorts, was one
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: of the people who ended up finding Myra, who was
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: a big Puerto Rican radical.
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Wow, it's crazy how this all comes together. So okay,
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: so tell us. So he's doing these bombings, he's not
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: hurting people. How does he eventually get caught up, How
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: does the FBI catch up with him? And what happens?
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Well, that is a subject of debate and for many
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: years his ex girl. After they were arrested, his ex
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: girlfriend wrote quite a bit about him. She went underground
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: to avoid arrest for around five years, and during that
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: time she wrote a manifesto and then when she eventually
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: surrendered and turned herself over to the FBI years later,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: she wrote a quote tell all book. Her name is
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Jane Alpert, and in her version of events, which has
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: become kind of the accepted history of the events. According
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: to her, my father snitched to a known FBI informant,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: which is what got everybody arrested.
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: And this was the story that had.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Kind of remained standing and unchallenged for probably around thirty
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: years until my book came along and I subpoened tens
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: of thousands of FBI documents, which took me over a
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: decade to assemble, And what I realized after assembling all
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: the pieces was that.
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: Her story was completely untrue.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Not only did my father not confess and give names
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: to an FBI informant, but in fact, the entire group
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: was surrounded by FBI informants, that there were other people
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: in the group who were also being targeted by the FBI,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: So it was really no way for anybody to get
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: away with us for any long period of time. The
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: FBI had over three hundred agents working on this case
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: at any given time, and it was just a matter
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: of time before they got caught.
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: And today, of course, we have mountains of technology.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: To assist law enforcement, so many of the things that
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: they did to get away with this for the amount
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: of time that they did, which was around six months,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: would have been quashed in a matter of days using
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: today's technology.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Wow, you know, and it's interesting you look at this
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: and you think, Man, the FBI has been involved with
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: so many radical groups throughout the years, whether it's the
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: group I was referring to, the FALN, or even the
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: stuff that's happening in January sixth. There's a lot of
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: connections now to saying that the FBI had people inside
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: of them and whatnot, and that there's always a mold, there's.
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: Always a rat.
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: How do you draw or could you draw.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Some parallels to between what you saw as a kid
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: growing up and the movement in the sixties with the
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: communists doing what they did in bombings, and today it
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: seems like we're going back in that direction.
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: We clearly are.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: We're repeating history almost on a month by month schedule,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: from the late nineteen sixties a sixty seven, sixty eight,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: going forward into the early seventies.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Now, Joshua Melville, there's a lot of talk about the
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: FBI because it's my opinion that they're they're not some
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: sort of altruistic group, but I think oftentimes they're pseudo
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: closeted fascists that want to control the outcome in the
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: name of what they call justice, and they're willing to
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: infiltrate any group at any cost to get their way.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that's a fair description of them.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: And I think the tell as they say in poker,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: you know, the thing that gives you a way that
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: you don't intend to get of you away, whether or
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: not you have a good or bad hand, is exactly
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: what happened in regard to how they dealt with the
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Trump administration and how the left has completely embraced the
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: FBI's heroes, whereas in the sixties, the FBI was the
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: worst enemy. And that's because the FBI doesn't really have
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: a political ideology, in my opinion, And the only way
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: you can know this is if.
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: You study the history of the FBI.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Now, in chapter three of my book, which is called
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Hoover's Black Problem, I summarized the history of the FBI
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: leading up to the events in the story. And you know,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Hoover hated the Ku Klux Klan. Hoover hated the Communists.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Hoover hated anything that, in his view, disrupted the Norman
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Rockwell view of what America was supposed to be.
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: He didn't care about whether you were black or white,
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: are your ideology.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: It just so happens that during the sixties it was
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: the new Left, it was the Yippies, Black Panthers, and
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: then you know, eventually the weathermen who were doing that,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: And so you know, at that point in time, the
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: left hated the FBI and would never trust the FBI
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: and everything they say.
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: Is a lie.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: And pretty much every radical that I interviewed for this
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: book felt that way. And then had I been able
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: to interview them now in twenty twenty one, I would say, well,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: is that the same FBI who you think is telling
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: the truth about Republicans and the Conservatives? Because if the
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: FBI lies, don't they lie about everybody or they just
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: only lie about some people some of the time when
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: they happen to agree or disagree with you.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: I guess based on what you remember, based on what
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: you know. What do you think a radical bomber like
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: your dad would think of groups like that today, like Antifa?
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: What do you think his take would be?
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: Boy? Is that a good question.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: So most of the radicals that I interviewed were in
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: their forties and fifties at the time that I interviewed them,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: early forties to mid fifties, and then I reinterviewed them
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: a second time when I was doing when I got
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: after i'd sold the book to Chicago Review Press. It's
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: something important to remember that most of these people in
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: midlife became what we would call today conservative. Okay, yes,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: they still talked about liberal ideology, but they have owned homes,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: BMW's businesses. They had taken on the adopted mainstream life.
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: Now would my father have done that, I don't know.
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: He was pretty extreme.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: He was the exception to the rule, and that's probably
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: one of the reasons why he's a hero of these people,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: because every one of them knows that deep down a
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: lot of them are frauds. When my father was a
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: genuine article and paid deltimate price for it, What would
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: my father think of Antifa today or BLM.
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: That's hard to say.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: If he stayed true to his beliefs as he did
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: when he died when he was thirty six, then he
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: would probably say, burn, baby, burn. He would say, this
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: is a great way to know, no problem, burn it
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: all down. Because he believed that the people who were
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: designed by the universe or God or whatever you believe in,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: the people who were designed to tear down the system.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Were not supposed to be concerned with how the system
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: was going to be rebuilt. That that was supposed to
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: be somebody else's job, and that was their justification for
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: committing violence and destruction. It wasn't their responsibility to rebuild it.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: And I believe that carries truth right over to today. They
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: don't seem to care about all the harm they're doing
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: to the country and to the economy and to this
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: people in general.
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: It's all about what we are the immediate need of
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: getting a message across right now. I'm not here to
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: judge that, but that seems to be what's happening. But
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: if he grew up, you know, after.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Prison, if you become a teacher, went back to architecture,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: and eventually became absorbed into mainstream life, then he'd be
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: like many other radicals that I interviewed for this project,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: which is he would have put it down, he would
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: have condemned it.
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: He would have still had political leftist viewpoints, but those
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: would kind of just be.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Almost window dressing for the fact that they had gone
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: mainstream and adopted an extremely bourgeois form of life. And
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: one of the reasons I chose to right to book
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: now is kind of as a cautionary tale because when
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: now we have millennials, and millennials actually make up a
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: larger percentage of the US population than baby boomers did
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: back in the sixties, and their voice is quite powerful,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: and a lot of them are quite angry at the government,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: and for many reasons, rightfully so.
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: But the choice of venue to express that anger, in.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Terms of what someone called peaceful protests and others would
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: call riots, is an exact analog what we experienced in
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: the sixties, and where it eventually leads is a little
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: on the scary side. And the way I see it going,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: it is escalating, and we will eventually if something doesn't
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: get done, we will eventually see more sam Melville's, will
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: see more bombs going off, We'll see more extreme violence
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: of US citizens committing acts of violence against other US citizens.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: And the division between left and right is just as
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: wide as it was in the sixties, but it does
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: seem like some of the causes of kind of reversed
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: because back then liberals were pro labor. Today it seems
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: like liberals are anti labor, and back then liberals were
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: pro Israel. To today it seems like most liberals are
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: anti Israel, and I could go on and on about
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: the kind of role reversals that we're seeing in the
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: extreme of politics.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: The actual liberal really doesn't exist the way they did,
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: but it seems, at least in my opinion, that they've
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: really been kind of taken over with I guess, a
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: more pure, a more boiled down version of actual communism.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: It is strange because they do seem to embrace a
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: lot of Marxist ideas.
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: My father was a big Marxist. His father was a
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: big Marxist.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: He comes from a, you know, in a serious Marxist
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: training and a doctrination, so I see a lot of
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Marxist I see a lot of familiar Marxist slogans and
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: tropes being used to package what seems to me to
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: be a new form of conservativism. I know, those words
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: don't mean anything anymore because left is right and right
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: is left, and we're all kind of politically homeless these days.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: But a lot of the causes that seemed to be
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: adopted by liberals were once, you know, causes that were
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: adopted by conservatives. Yet they've packaged it in Marxist rhetoric.
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: So it is it is fascinating give me a couple
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: of examples. Oh boy, how much time do we have?
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: You got about a minute a half.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Well, one of them, a very obvious one, I think,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: would be a gun control So you didn't see a
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: lot of liberals in the sixties complaining about that we
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: had poor gun control laws, and that's because at the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: time it was fashionable for the black panthers to arm themselves.
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: Yet now we.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: See a lot of liberals who are concerned about gun control.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Coincidentally at the same time that pot is becoming legal,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: and that almost seems like a conservative view to try
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: to make people more docile, less able to defend themselves,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: and more dependent upon the government.
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: Interesting.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know that I share that view, but
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: I do think it's interesting how the roles have reversed,
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: because you're right, I think the liberal is actually a
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: dying breed, if you will, in America, the Alan Dershowitz
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: type of liberal, whereas it seems to be somewhat replaced
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: by the Bill de Blasio Bernie Sanders type of more
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: radical leftist, at least in my opinion from what I've observed. So, okay,
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: tell us, I guess ultimately I think it took a
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: lot of courage and a lot of wherewithal to put
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: the book together. Tell us what is it that you're
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: hoping people take away from a project like this that
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: took you, you know, ten years to put together?
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, more than that.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Actually, what will they take away? I hope they get
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: a broader understanding that everything we're experiencing now we've experienced before,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: that history does repeat itself, and if we don't pay
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: attention to what happened last time.
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: We could end up in a worse situation than we
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: are now.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: And I in the book, I talk about, you know,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: how law enforcement goes about doing its job, and how
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: radicals go about fulfilling their agenda. And I try to
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: go out of my way to make it a fair
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: and balanced viewpoint. I say in the introduction that this
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: book is you know, examines examines people that have moral
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: prisms and view life through those complex moral prisms, and
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: that indeed there are no clear good guys and bad
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: guys in this story, including me, and I hope people
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: can read this book and come away with a greater
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: understanding that the best way that that number one, you know,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: we are experiencing enormous change a lot of it's dangerous,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: but they're really the best way, in my opinion, to
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: make the world a better place is to just be
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: a better parent, you know, raise your children and teach
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: them good values and teach them to be self sufficient.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: And I guess maybe that's my ultimate message.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: I think that's one of the best messages I've heard
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: in a long time. Something I harp on a lot myself.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: If we do the right thing from when, you know,
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: when they're little, hopefully we'll get it right.
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: That's Joshua Melville, the son of Sam Melville, who was
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: killed in Attica after he was in prisoned for bombing
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: federal buildings. The book is American time Bomb by Joshua Melville.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: American time Bomb, Attica, Sam Melville and a Son's Search
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: for Answers. You can get that on Amazon dot com
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: or wherever you get your books, and make sure you
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: grab a copy, grab two because Christmas is coming up.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Joshua Melville, thank you so much for joining us on
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: This is America.
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: Thank you, Rich.
• 44:11
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• 44:14
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• 44:19
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• 44:24
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  Speaker 6: So it's an honor to speak with Rich Valdez.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, very good.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: The honor is all yours. Conservative talk with a dash
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• 45:17
  Speaker 8: All right, America, welcome back.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: So yeah, kick butt interview there with Joshua Melville, son
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: of Sam Melville, the ticking time bomb, American time bomb. Now,
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: what's interesting about the whole thing is this is nothing new.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: Now you've heard him say, this is how the radicalization happened.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: How did he become radicalized following the Marxist Leninist Communist
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: roadmap that's been out there forever. I mean, that's how
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: as far as I can see, they've been active in
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: the United States since the early nineteen hundreds.
• 45:48
  Speaker 8: Nothing new.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: But again, this came as a surprise to me, of course,
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: when I first encountered it, I was like, Oh my gosh,
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: I can't believe this stuff.
• 45:55
  Speaker 8: Duh, right in our face. That's how they work.
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Back in the sixties, there was an anti Communis by
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: the name of g Edward Griffin. I did a whole
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: show on this, probably two years ago, and played clips
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: of it, I think maybe on one of my live infilins.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: But I'm going to play a short clip of it now,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: just to give you a little bit of the flavor
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: for the stuff he's talking about. Because once you know
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: what the Communists are up to, what the Leninist, what
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: the Marxist teaches, which today is wrapped in a softer
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: language socialism, Democrats socialism because they feel like, oh, you know,
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: it sounds so much easier and more palatable if we
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: do it that way. But a big part of what
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: they do is they want to burn stuff down, use
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: the system to bring down the system.
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: These are Bolsheviks, leninists. This is what they do anyway.
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: Listen to this clip.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Surely as nineteen twenty eight, the Communists declare that the
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: racial differences among our people constituted the weakest and most
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: vulnerable point in our social fabric. By constantly probing and
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: straining at this one spot, they calculated that eventually the
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: cloth could be torn apart, and that Americans could be divided, weakened,
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: and perhaps even set against each other in open combat.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: We mustn't kit ourselves into thinking that the Communists have
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: placed their agitators only into the black communities. They're working
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: both sides of the street. They want hatred, violence, and
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: bloodshed between the races, and they don't care how they
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: get it or whom they use, even children if necessary.
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: Even children if necessary.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: Kind of makes me think of what they're doing right
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: now with forcing five year olds to get vaccinated in
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: New York City, knowing that they can't even defend this,
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: but the fact that he does it with impunity because
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: he's I'm gonna do what I gotta do. I mean,
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: I'm out of here in twenty some odd days, build
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: a Blasio on my way out. I'm taking everybody with me.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Use the system, to take down the system, burn it
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: all down like the commie that he is. Anyway, I
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: want to read you a part of a transcript from
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: that same video where they talk about the communists use
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: of fire. Now, I know, back in the days, people
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: say all these guys are communists. People, Oh, you're one
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: of those red scare crazy types. You think everybody's a
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: radical communist. If you know their playbook, you can see
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: things coming. Now I'm not saying that everybody's a radical communists.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: I'm saying that some people have implemented radical communist tactics,
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: perhaps not even knowing that they're implementing these radical communist tactics,
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: but that's what they do. So when we look at
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: this Christmas tree burning today outside of Fox News, or
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: these federal buildings that are blown up by the American
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: ticking time bomb, the American terrorists, the homegrown terrorists we
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: just talked about Sam Melville, are there similarities. There's definitely
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: similarities in burning stuff down because that's what communists do. Now,
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: check out this transcript. This is from nineteen twenty eight.
• 48:32
  Speaker 8: Robert F.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: Williams was one of the communist organizers, part of something
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: called the Revolutionary Action movement, and they produce this publication
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: called The Crusader. In this issue of The Crusader, communists
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: call not only for the extensive chaos within cities that
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: we're actually seeing today some eighty years later, ninety years later,
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: but for putting a torch to every village and every forest,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: every field, and every barn. The plan is for raging
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: fires from one city to the next. I'm reading from
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: the text. Well, there's the value of sheer destruction. Secondly,
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: it would force us to deploy our defenses and rescue
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: units over the widest possible area. Third the communists point
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: out that as long as our police and National Guard
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: remain concentrated, they're invincible. You got to spread them out
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: over an entire city and into the countryside as well.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's why we have forest fires, just like the
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: Cloward pivot idea. Right, just ambush the system and then
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: they could be picked off one by one by ambush.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: And the third value of massive fire to the communist
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: is psychological. The average American, they say, is soft and
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: decadent when he sees billows of black smoke rising from
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: one horizon to the other, when at night the only
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: light that they can see is from a flickering red
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: flame leaping into the sky. He'll become paralyzed with fear
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: and panic. He'll run away and hide and do nothing
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: to interfere with gorilla groups as they strike at the
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: communities and power centers. This is what the Crusader explains.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: How to set up sniper units in crowded metropolitan areas,
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: to manufacture jumbo molotov cocktails using the gallon sized jug,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: and how to mix the gasoline with certain ingredients to
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: make it burn like napon. How to pour gasoline into
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  Speaker 4: utility manholes in the streets to set fire to main
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  Speaker 4: telephone cables. How to put sulfur tips from matches into
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  Speaker 4: air conditioning units to blow up large buildings, how to
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  Speaker 4: ignite gas manes and oil storage tanks. It explains how
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  Speaker 4: to use radio controlled model airplanes and how they can
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  Speaker 4: be used to fly explosive charges over heavily guarded fences,
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  Speaker 4: in gasoline storage areas or ammunition stockpiles. It even calls
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  Speaker 4: for the infiltration into National Guard units revolutionaries posing as
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  Speaker 4: non militants for the purpose of getting free military training
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  Speaker 4: and for gaining access to critical military supplies and heavy weapons,
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  Speaker 4: and then they finally say that any fallout in a
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  Speaker 4: minority revolution must create a state of crisis where in
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  Speaker 4: almost all population, including males, would be forced to remain
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  Speaker 4: in their homes to protect their property and family. The
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  Speaker 4: middle class is very large, but it's not accustomed to
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  Speaker 4: deprivation and terror. Because of this affluence, it has waxed soft.
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  Speaker 4: It has no stomach for massive fire, blood or violence.
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  Speaker 4: The motive force behind its life drive is its endless
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  Speaker 4: pursuit of prestige, conspicuous consumption, and sensual pleasure. A few
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  Speaker 4: years of violence, sporadic and highly destructive uprisings will set
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  Speaker 4: the stage for the grand finale. After the stage is
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  Speaker 4: properly set through the protracted struggle, America could be brought
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  Speaker 4: to its knees in ninety days of highly organized, fierce fighting,
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  Speaker 4: sabotage and massive firestone. That is a quote from The Crusader,
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  Speaker 4: written by Robert F.
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  Speaker 6: Williams.
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  Speaker 4: So now you tell me you just heard from the
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  Speaker 4: bomber son. He explained that he taught the Puerto Rican
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  Speaker 4: separatists from the other group, not the FAAILN, but the
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  Speaker 4: other guys how to use these bombs. Today we have
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  Speaker 4: drones today, we have all sorts of things. This sounds
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  Speaker 4: like a repeat of the Summer of twenty twenty and
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  Speaker 4: little sporadic moments of people trying to to achieve this.
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  Speaker 4: And again they've been at this. This is a century
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  Speaker 4: long plan. They've been at this for a long time.
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  Speaker 4: I don't agree with what they're doing, but I think
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  Speaker 4: they're right. People don't like fires. That makes sense. People
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  Speaker 4: can be scared into compliance, that makes sense. Bombing these
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  Speaker 4: targets is symbolic and has a psychological effect on Americans.
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  Speaker 8: We have to know what they're up to. We have
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  Speaker 8: to stand for something. We have to stop them.
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  Speaker 4: We have to be part of the government that's working
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  Speaker 4: against them, we have to be part of the media
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  Speaker 4: that's working against them, because they're inside the government, they're
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  Speaker 4: inside the media, they're inside the classroom. And the only
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  Speaker 4: way to stop them is to actually be there and
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  Speaker 4: fight with them, not physically unless that's necessary. But a
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  Speaker 4: good teacher cancels out a bad teacher. But if every
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  Speaker 4: last teacher is a communist, Marxist, Leninist, socialist, what's left.
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  Speaker 8: That's my point.
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  Speaker 4: We have to stand for something, because if we stand
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  Speaker 4: for nothing, we'll fall for anything. That's Hamilton. And the
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  Speaker 4: only thing necessary for this kind of evil to triumph
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  Speaker 4: is for good people like you to sit there and
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  Speaker 4: do nothing. So it's time for you to stay, end up,
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  Speaker 4: and do something. I start approxima until next time, America.
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  Speaker 4: I am Rich Valdeste, valdest with an S. And this
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  Speaker 4: is America.
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  Speaker 5: This is America.
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  Speaker 4: Attatatas