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Padres sell for $3.9 billion! Cubs IL Daniel Palencia, Parker Messick's no-no bid, RIP Garret Anderson · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Lot in lots of news today, four guests.
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Speaker 2: If you're listening to us via podcast, you'll see those
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Speaker 2: in different episodes. Sometimes people ask, but if you're on YouTube,
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Speaker 2: just get the straight two hours of Bronkratz and KPTE,
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Speaker 2: Kevin Polar KP before we start. I guess this is
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Speaker 2: how we should start. Did you see and feel for
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Speaker 2: Orioles manager Craig Albernas the other day?
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Speaker 3: The answer to both is yes, I saw and I felt.
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Speaker 3: Obviously what happened to him is probably. It's different when
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Speaker 3: you're a player, you're kind of expected to go out
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Speaker 3: there and play. We're not expected. I wanted to go
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Speaker 3: out there and play. There's some limitations, the fact that
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Speaker 3: he gets to sit in the dugout and not have
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Speaker 3: to go compete a little easier to bounce back. But
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Speaker 3: when you're talking about you know, facial and eyebones, it's
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Speaker 3: a little bit different than a shattered nose.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So his report was broken jaw hit by foul ball,
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Speaker 2: at least seven fractures in the cheek area, and no surgery.
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Speaker 2: The jaw doesn't need to be wired shut, but it
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Speaker 2: did sound like a baby food diet was in the works.
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Speaker 2: I just read stuff. So I don't know if anything
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Speaker 2: was said in jest, but I actually think that's probably
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Speaker 2: the case.
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Speaker 1: So it's tough times.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean luckily no, Luckily no surgery because the
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Speaker 3: jaw can be you know, obviously very difficult if you
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Speaker 3: get wired shut. Probably his ability to manage, communicate, obviously
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Speaker 3: go argue with the umpires is a little bit more limited.
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Speaker 3: I think there's some of us that you know, get
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Speaker 3: a little bit older, would not would benefit from.
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Speaker 4: Being on that liquid diet.
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Speaker 3: But also the the the cheek area in the face,
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Speaker 3: the fact he doesn't have to have surgery, because that's
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Speaker 3: it's pretty serious when your your face gets cut open.
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Speaker 3: So what was a really scary situation, which is still
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Speaker 3: kind of a scary situation. You're so close to you know,
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Speaker 3: the batter's box when you're there in the dugout, you know,
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Speaker 3: the best case scenario for him plain years what happened
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Speaker 3: to me, I was very lucky, Yeah, I was very
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Speaker 3: lucky that it was a direct shot strictly to my nose,
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Speaker 3: and I just I mean, I can't even tell you
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Speaker 3: how many different sorts of breaks I had in my nose,
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Speaker 3: but it was only my nose. You know, I had
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Speaker 3: no concussion symptoms. I had no like blurry vision, I
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Speaker 3: had no facial fractures. I mean that also played into
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Speaker 3: the part while I was able to come back so quickly,
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Speaker 3: as you know, A couple of days after, I went
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Speaker 3: and had what they consider a closed reduction surgery where
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Speaker 3: they don't cut me open. They basically, you know, put
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Speaker 3: you out and they smush it back together to kind
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Speaker 3: of form a nose, and once the once, the uh
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Speaker 3: you know once, I I think it was like seven days.
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Speaker 4: I just couldn't get my heart rate up. Once I
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Speaker 4: was cleared from that, I was fine to play.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 4: I didn't have a lot of use of my nose
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Speaker 4: for breathing.
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Speaker 3: And then in the off season when the season was over,
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Speaker 3: I went and had like a full you know, reconstruction
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Speaker 3: of my airwait and my nose and everything. And honestly,
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Speaker 3: it was a blessing in the sky because look at
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Speaker 3: this thing now, Crats.
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember before, but much improved.
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Speaker 6: It was terrible. I was thinking about when when you
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Speaker 6: were gonna pop on the show. I was like, I
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Speaker 6: just remember how ugly you were before you had like
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Speaker 6: a you know, you had like a like a nose
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Speaker 6: like mine, super huge and like kind of tilted. And
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Speaker 6: we used to talk, you know, hey, who's getting set
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Speaker 6: down today because one of our relievers, one of our leaves,
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Speaker 6: just went three innings, so they got to bring someone
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Speaker 6: else up. So it was either you or me because
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Speaker 6: they were never sending totally down.
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Speaker 3: He's not wrong, he's not wrong. I mean, it's it's
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Speaker 3: the truth. The truth hurts. And you know, all all
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Speaker 3: kidding aside. You know, that was kind of like, you know,
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Speaker 3: you kind of have to laugh at yourself in certain situations.
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Speaker 3: And I always, you know, say it was a blessing
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Speaker 3: in the sky, so that I got hit in the nose,
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Speaker 3: you know, if it was like a different part of
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Speaker 3: my body, I could have. You know, there's other parts
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Speaker 3: of my body that we were fine. But if there
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Speaker 3: was one area on my body pre getting hit in
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Speaker 3: the face that I would have liked to change, it
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Speaker 3: would have been my nose.
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Speaker 4: So thank you, Jacob Web, thank.
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Speaker 2: You for that ninety four to the face. I am
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Speaker 2: now beautiful.
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Speaker 5: Stop, welcome for a slider, Stay on the heater, KP.
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Speaker 4: I was in change up. I'll be honestly, I was
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Speaker 4: in change.
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Speaker 5: Up leaning out. This one's gotta break right, break my nose.
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Speaker 4: Wow, it broke. It just broke something else.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're our baseball to the face specialist, among other
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Speaker 2: specialties that you have.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the.
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Speaker 2: Top news in terms of what happened in Thursday's slate,
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Speaker 2: and then, of course we'll get to some news that
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Speaker 2: broke this morning.
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Speaker 1: But let's start with the near no no charge out. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: charging the mound with Parker Messick.
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Speaker 2: Eight innings, two hits, two walks, nine strikeouts, gave up
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Speaker 2: a couple knocks in the ninth. He carried that bad
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Speaker 2: boy into the ninth inning and no, No. At one
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Speaker 2: hundred and six pitches. It was not dramatic. In the
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Speaker 2: ninth it was one pitch from Leodi Tavares knocks it
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Speaker 2: through the right side Kratz, and it gives attention to
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Speaker 2: someone who has looked really good in limited time so
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Speaker 2: far in his career, with Cleveland coming up last year
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Speaker 2: and looking like he's carrying that momentum into this season.
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Speaker 5: Did you know what his era was before the game?
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Speaker 5: Raise your hand career if you.
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Speaker 6: Know, just this season, nobody had heard about Parker Messi's
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Speaker 6: start to the season. Everyone was talking about Jose Soriano,
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Speaker 6: sho hey o Tani Parker Messik had like a point
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Speaker 6: seven ERA in his first three starts, and he goes
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Speaker 6: out there and I thought he was gonna do it. No,
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Speaker 6: no jinx is aside, no like it's it just felt
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Speaker 6: like the way he was doing it, I thought he
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Speaker 6: was going to be able to get it done.
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Speaker 5: And I thought it was gonna be quick.
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Speaker 6: I just didn't think it was gonna be the first
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Speaker 6: pitch he was gonna lose it in the ninth and
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Speaker 6: then two hits all crap, and then the two runs crap.
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Speaker 6: His era goes up. He almost has a historic night
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Speaker 6: and then his ERA goes up.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be honest with you. I was watching the
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Speaker 3: game too. Good buddy of mine, Cody Allen. Those were
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Speaker 3: his first games he was doing for the broadcast. I
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Speaker 3: didn't message him during it, but I'm thinking to myself,
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Speaker 3: what if the hell of a first game of the
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Speaker 3: season to be there for.
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Speaker 4: But I kind of just got this. I kind of
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Speaker 4: felt I kind of.
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Speaker 3: Felt for him a little bit because that inning leading
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Speaker 3: up to the ninth, which would be the bottom of
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Speaker 3: the eighth, kind of just dragged on a little bit,
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Speaker 3: and you know, as a pitcher, they just want to
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Speaker 3: get back out there, get into a routine. But I
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Speaker 3: didn't know much about him, you know, I just happened
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Speaker 3: to turn the TV on. It was I think it
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Speaker 3: was the only game going on at the time, so
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Speaker 3: I had watched him throw maybe three innings up until
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Speaker 3: the ninth inning. And you know, as a guy who
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Speaker 3: at the back end of his career was you know,
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Speaker 3: called upon to hit lefties, that change up that he
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Speaker 3: has would have given me an absolute problems. I would
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Speaker 3: have lost sleep thinking about his change it because he's nasty.
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Speaker 3: But and then the other thought I thought about too,
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Speaker 3: is and krats. You could probably speak on this a
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Speaker 3: little bit too, But I was thinking, younger guy. You
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Speaker 3: know the pitch count, you know up to one hundred.
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Speaker 4: How many different.
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Speaker 3: Organizations would allow him to go out there, a young
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Speaker 3: pitcher to go out there and you know, kind of
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Speaker 3: pass that one hundred pitch threshold. I think it was
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Speaker 3: a kind of a blessing that he was in Cleveland,
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Speaker 3: because they've been known to just know how to manage
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Speaker 3: their pictures.
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Speaker 4: They have good feel for Were those inning stressful? You know?
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Speaker 4: Is he in a good rhythm.
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Speaker 3: You know, they kind of are one organization that feels
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Speaker 3: like they kind of throw the pitch count out a
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Speaker 3: little bit.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think I think it's less the organization.
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Speaker 6: Some organizations are very helicopter parent. I think it's good.
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Speaker 6: As his manager was Steven Vote, I think Voter understood it.
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Speaker 6: I think Voter also understood that you have Austin hedges
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Speaker 6: behind the dish and he'll let you know if, like, hey,
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Speaker 6: I think were taxing this guy too much. Everybody wants
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Speaker 6: the no hitter, but at what cost?
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Speaker 5: And I when I.
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Speaker 6: Went back and watched it, all the balls that were
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Speaker 6: put in play, all the striker, it just didn't feel
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Speaker 6: like it was that taxing. To me, it wasn't. He
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Speaker 6: didn't have any traffic. I think he had two walks.
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Speaker 6: It just felt like he was cruising to those one
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Speaker 6: hundred pitches. I didn't even I should have looked. I
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Speaker 6: didn't even see what his other pitch counts were. The
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Speaker 6: rest of the year. I mean, you know, he got
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Speaker 6: up to eighty four, ninety one, and seventy six, so
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Speaker 6: he's kind of kind of built up from his first
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Speaker 6: start where he was seventy six all the way up
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Speaker 6: to ninety one, so it's okay to throw a little
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Speaker 6: bit more.
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Speaker 5: I thought he could have finished it.
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Speaker 4: You you mentioned Stephen vote to.
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Speaker 3: Another thing that I really like too is you've seen
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Speaker 3: it so many times where if they allow a guy
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Speaker 3: to go out there and kind of chase the no no,
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Speaker 3: as soon as they give up a hit, they take
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Speaker 3: him out. He gave up that hit on that first pitch,
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Speaker 3: they brought the pitching coach out, more than likely to
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Speaker 3: get the bullpen ready, but also maybe to just settle
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Speaker 3: him down a little bit.
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Speaker 4: I love that they allowed him to face another hitter.
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Speaker 3: Then he give up the second hit and it's like, Okay,
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Speaker 3: your day's over. But so many times they kind of
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Speaker 3: pull the cord. You know, you lose the no hitter.
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Speaker 3: But being able to go CG and a shutout is
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Speaker 3: also a huge accomplishment for a young pitcher. So I
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Speaker 3: love the fact they allowed him to face another batter
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Speaker 3: after he gave up the hit.
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Speaker 4: And you know, unfortunately it didn't work out.
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Speaker 3: But I think he just put himself on the map,
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Speaker 3: you know, in the baseball world.
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Speaker 4: You know he's going to be a guy. At least
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Speaker 4: for me. Next time he touches the mound, I'm going
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Speaker 4: to be tuning in.
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Speaker 2: Then they we're in trouble. I mean, Kate Smith is
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Speaker 2: one of the best relievers in the game. Yeah, became
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Speaker 2: a game really fast. It's like, oh oh, Basis loaded
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Speaker 2: nobody out sidefly double and then he was able to
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Speaker 2: shut the door Kaid Smith. But it got a little
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Speaker 2: dicey there in the four to two win for Cleveland.
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Speaker 2: The other thing that's crazy is just how long it's
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Speaker 2: been since the organization has had a no No KP
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Speaker 2: forty five years May of nineteen eighty one, Len Barker.
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Speaker 2: That's and it's not like the organization has never had them.
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Speaker 2: And also the organization has been around forever. If you
11:07
Speaker 2: root the franchise back, there's been fourteen of them, including
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Speaker 2: three from Bob Feller, but none since the early eighties.
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Speaker 3: Well, and I just think about, you know, the time
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Speaker 3: that I was competing against you know, Cleveland, and.
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Speaker 4: There was probably there was great pitching before that.
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Speaker 3: But I'm thinking in like the twenty tens, you know,
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Speaker 3: you got primetime Corey Klueber there, you know, multiple Cy
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Speaker 3: Young Award winner, you got a guy and Danny Salazar
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Speaker 3: who just had stuff. You know, you had Cookie Carrasco
11:31
Speaker 3: there just to name a couple guys, the fact that
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Speaker 3: they haven't had one in so many years just speaks
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Speaker 3: to the difficulty of you know, and there's a huge
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Speaker 3: element of luck that goes into it. You obviously have
11:41
Speaker 3: to have your a game on. You know, sometimes guys
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Speaker 3: are gonna hit the ball hard, you gotta have some
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Speaker 3: you know, defense behind you. But you know, I think
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Speaker 3: that's why we all tune in, is the you know,
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Speaker 3: the rarity that they they they happen, you know, and
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Speaker 3: when you get a guy going, you know, eight innings
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Speaker 3: no hits, you know, I think the entire baseball world
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Speaker 3: tuned in and was rooting for him.
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Speaker 2: And you get the signature defensive plays too. Kratz Quan's
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Speaker 2: catch against the wall. Jose Ramirez made some nice plays,
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Speaker 2: including the catch against the netting. You got you had
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Speaker 2: some signature moments if it ended up completing itself.
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Speaker 5: For sure, you had.
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Speaker 6: I mean you didn't have the like robbed home run
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Speaker 6: or the ridiculous diving play in the hole, but there
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Speaker 6: was he needed his guys behind him, and you know,
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Speaker 6: some people were like we even talked about in our
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Speaker 6: production meeting, like oh man, that ground ball that was
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Speaker 6: you know the base hit, the first base hit was
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Speaker 6: right to where the second basement should be.
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Speaker 5: But you go back and there was two.
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Speaker 6: Or three, definitely two balls that the shift helped him,
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Speaker 6: including Pete Alonso hit one up the middle that the
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Speaker 6: second basement was almost exactly where we just had it
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Speaker 6: on the screen, basically right behind second, just a little
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Speaker 6: to the right of second, and he just he made
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Speaker 6: the play routine and the no hitter would have been
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Speaker 6: broken up earlier had they played a complete, you know,
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Speaker 6: no shift, just a regular straight up. So look, the
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Speaker 6: shift giveth and the shift taketh away.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, if we.
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Speaker 3: Knew where the guys, if we knew where the guys
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Speaker 3: were going to hit it, then we would have more
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Speaker 3: no hitters. Right Like, we're playing the probabilities of where
13:22
Speaker 3: we believe the guys.
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Speaker 4: Are going to hit it.
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Speaker 3: And to crass this point, we never talk about when
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Speaker 3: a guy's in a shift and they do take the
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Speaker 3: hit away. It's always the one where oh man, he
13:31
Speaker 3: should have been playing, you know, in his normal position,
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Speaker 3: he would have had a no hitter. It's like, no,
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Speaker 3: if the second baseman would have played his traditional spot,
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Speaker 3: we wouldn't be talking about, you know, him going eight innings,
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Speaker 3: he probably would have lost the no hitter in the
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Speaker 3: second or third inning.
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Speaker 2: Shifting works. The entire league does it. It's not even
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Speaker 2: a debate. Yeah, shifting works. You don't play straight up
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Speaker 2: old school baseball style on everything. We had to make
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Speaker 2: roles to adjust it so that it didn't look insane,
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Speaker 2: and I like the but shifting still occurs in a
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Speaker 2: different way and it works.
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Speaker 3: And if you look at that overhead, they showed to
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Speaker 3: where the positioning were. I mean, you can notice the
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Speaker 3: outfielders were also shifted to.
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Speaker 4: You know, they had a little bit more pull.
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Speaker 3: They had a little bit more pull, you know, traditionally
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Speaker 3: in the infield, and it looks like the outfielder is
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Speaker 3: playing a little bit more opposite field gap. So that's
14:19
Speaker 3: that's just the nature of the game we play. We
14:21
Speaker 3: have so much information where it's not like, you know,
14:25
Speaker 3: we used to just say.
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Speaker 4: Hey, this guy's a poll hitter. We move everyone to
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Speaker 4: the pull side.
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Speaker 3: Like they know, Tavares against left handed pitching is more
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Speaker 3: likely to pull the ball on the ground, but he
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Speaker 3: might hit the ball to right center a little bit
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Speaker 3: more in the air. So it's just, you know, it's
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Speaker 3: just what happens. You know, baseball is a crazy game.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes guys, you know, find holes.
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Speaker 1: Massa leading or hitting not hitting.
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Speaker 2: Walking the lead off man to start the game is
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Speaker 2: always a classic too. I just picture somebody either probably
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Speaker 2: fan in the ballpark.
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Speaker 1: Being like, oh, here we go, and then they're like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: here we go.
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Speaker 6: Then that fan hadn't been watching Parker Messic pitch this year,
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Speaker 6: because this dude's been in control, not even just this year,
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Speaker 6: like coming up last year, he's got a eleven starts,
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Speaker 6: twelve starts.
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Speaker 5: This was his twelve start, like a two e RA
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Speaker 5: and don't like, don't get it twisted. He keeps this up.
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Speaker 6: Another Rookie of the Year candidate. So obviously he's got
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Speaker 6: a long way to go, as all the rookies do.
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Speaker 6: But that's a good start.
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Speaker 2: And there's just a stupid amount of competition this year
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Speaker 2: on the on the rookie list.
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Speaker 4: It's it's you just think, I mean.
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Speaker 3: And it's so fitting that it's a pitcher in Cleveland
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Speaker 3: too that probably not a lot of us had heard
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Speaker 3: of up until this point. But they just do something
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Speaker 3: over there and you have to credit you know, their
15:43
Speaker 3: pitching department, their they're pitching coach that's been there for
15:46
Speaker 3: you know, in eternity.
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Speaker 4: But they just have a knack for finding great pitching.
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Speaker 3: And this is just another guy that's you know, putting
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Speaker 3: a Cleveland uniform on and is going to probably go
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Speaker 3: on and do great things in his career.
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Speaker 2: Hey, one more thing from that game before we get
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Speaker 2: to Ken. Stephen Vote has friends and he likes to
16:07
Speaker 2: prank his friends. The Guardian Skipper pranked his former right
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Speaker 2: hand man, very good friend, Craig Albernas, who's running the
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Speaker 2: Oriols dug out these days, and Albertnaz went into the
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Speaker 2: visitors manager's office where the desks and the chairs were
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Speaker 2: all kid sized. Also a Spider Man shower curtain, bluey stuff.
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Speaker 2: This from Jake Rill, who I think covers the Oriols
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Speaker 2: for MLB. So that's fun, well played.
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Speaker 4: I love it.
16:38
Speaker 3: Shout out to Chrestie what's his name is it? Willy
16:40
Speaker 3: Willy on the visiting side, you know, because that takes
16:45
Speaker 3: that takes a little bit of work from the you know,
16:46
Speaker 3: visiting clubhouse guy to be on board move the furniture out.
16:49
Speaker 3: But I love it, you know, it just it just
16:51
Speaker 3: kind of speaks, you know, the game is still bigger.
16:53
Speaker 4: Than baseball, like friendships last forever.
16:56
Speaker 3: Obviously they had a great relationship, you know, learning under Stephen,
17:00
Speaker 3: you know, allowed him this opportunity. You know, just because
17:02
Speaker 3: they're competing on the field doesn't mean they can't be
17:04
Speaker 3: friends and make light of the situation. And you know,
17:07
Speaker 3: obviously everything kind of changes when and it just goes
17:11
Speaker 3: into perspective too. You know, he gets hitting the dug
17:13
Speaker 3: out there, you know, that's where you know the game's bigger,
17:16
Speaker 3: you know, but hopefully you know, after getting hit in
17:19
Speaker 3: the face, he has to go back and sit in
17:20
Speaker 3: the kid size desk. Maybe it's not as funny then,
17:22
Speaker 3: but it still just kind of makes light of a
17:25
Speaker 3: fun situation.
17:27
Speaker 4: Show me the money.
17:37
Speaker 2: We look at that footage of anyone that has any
17:39
Speaker 2: sliver of equity in the San Diego Padres this morning
17:42
Speaker 2: as we get the news that they are going to
17:45
Speaker 2: be sold.
17:45
Speaker 1: There's approval processes.
17:47
Speaker 2: And all of that, but we'll learn a lot more
17:49
Speaker 2: right now with our friend Darren Smith. Darren, great to
17:51
Speaker 2: see you again as we have you back and really
17:53
Speaker 2: appreciate the time to talk about what's going on with
17:56
Speaker 2: this three point nine billion dollar number and to learn
18:00
Speaker 2: more about who this owner is. So is a Feliciano
18:03
Speaker 2: connected in the soccer world?
18:04
Speaker 1: What do you know?
18:06
Speaker 7: Yeah?
18:06
Speaker 8: Unfortunately, what I know is I am not one of
18:08
Speaker 8: those people that has invested in the San Diego Padres.
18:11
Speaker 8: So I have missed my window. So yep, I'm outside
18:15
Speaker 8: looking in. So I would be doing Friar territory until
18:17
Speaker 8: the day that I died. But thank you for the invite.
18:20
Speaker 8: What we know is he was one of four finalists,
18:23
Speaker 8: and you know, people had varying opinions about who it
18:27
Speaker 8: was that they wanted to end up winning the bid
18:30
Speaker 8: for ownership, and there were arguments made for and against
18:33
Speaker 8: all of them. For instance, Joe Lacup is the owner
18:35
Speaker 8: of the Golden State Warriors, and people are familiar with
18:38
Speaker 8: the Warriors' success having won four NBA championships, so that
18:42
Speaker 8: was appealing for a lot of people. There was another
18:44
Speaker 8: guy named Dan Friedkin, who is another private equity guy
18:49
Speaker 8: who owns a couple of European soccer clubs and had
18:53
Speaker 8: roots in southern California. Had roots in San Diego in fact,
18:55
Speaker 8: was born here as father ran a business here. So
18:58
Speaker 8: people were interested in that. Feliciana was not one. I
19:02
Speaker 8: think that many people were saying, oh, yes, absolutely, let's
19:06
Speaker 8: make the case for him. But you know that he
19:08
Speaker 8: ends up winning this bid, per the Athletic in the
19:11
Speaker 8: Wall Street Journal. I think now we're all learning a
19:13
Speaker 8: little bit. Since the news broke this morning, It's been
19:15
Speaker 8: three hours of everybody heading up Wikipedia and trying to
19:20
Speaker 8: learn as much about Chelsea Football Club and trying to
19:23
Speaker 8: learn as much about clear Lake Capital as they possibly can.
19:26
Speaker 8: And and you know, I would say the there's a
19:30
Speaker 8: cautious level of optimism here in San Diego. And you know,
19:34
Speaker 8: fans I think are right to be a little bit curious,
19:38
Speaker 8: maybe a little apprehensive because they they don't know, and
19:42
Speaker 8: you know what you don't know sometimes can you know,
19:45
Speaker 8: it could could set off some alarm bells. But you know,
19:48
Speaker 8: I do think there's there's like a couple of range
19:51
Speaker 8: of emotions. You know, people I think also just wanted
19:53
Speaker 8: to find out, well, what is next, like like we
19:56
Speaker 8: sort of can't be in this limbo state forever. With
19:59
Speaker 8: the Sidler family announcing back in November that they were
20:03
Speaker 8: going to sell the club, I think people are anxious
20:06
Speaker 8: for a resolution, and now it appears like we're getting it.
20:09
Speaker 8: So as we're learning a little bit about Jose Feliciano
20:12
Speaker 8: as we're learning about his wife, Kwanza Jones. I think
20:15
Speaker 8: people initially are liking what they hear. Jared Diamond of
20:18
Speaker 8: the Wall Street Journal has been making the rounds here
20:20
Speaker 8: in southern California. I just got off the phone with
20:22
Speaker 8: them fifteen minutes ago. Sounds like this is a bit
20:27
Speaker 8: of a legacy play for Feliciano and his wife. They're
20:32
Speaker 8: interested in moving a ton of their philanthropy to the market,
20:35
Speaker 8: which I think is hitting the right note early on.
20:39
Speaker 8: So early on, I think people are blown away by
20:44
Speaker 8: the sale price, like wow, three point nine billion dollars,
20:47
Speaker 8: But early returns seem like there's more optimism than there
20:51
Speaker 8: is pessimism. But you know a healthy amount of well,
20:54
Speaker 8: let's wait and see as well.
20:57
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Speaker 2: to know, is this a winner? Is this gunslinger? Is
22:00
Speaker 2: this someone who understands what it takes to win in baseball?
22:04
Speaker 2: So it's all happening fast. But from what you've read
22:07
Speaker 2: or heard so far, the only comparison we can use
22:11
Speaker 2: is his involvement with Chelsea football.
22:13
Speaker 1: Right, I know almost nothing.
22:15
Speaker 2: Actually, this would have been a day to have aj
22:17
Speaker 2: Persinskim and his seat and he likes to follow all
22:19
Speaker 2: of that.
22:19
Speaker 1: So what is the perception of that club. It's not great.
22:25
Speaker 8: There's a massive protest scheduled for tomorrow's Chelsea Manchester United
22:29
Speaker 8: game by Chelsea's fans, and you know, the reason being
22:33
Speaker 8: is Chelsea fans were sort of spoiled. They had a
22:35
Speaker 8: Russian Oligark as an owner from the early two thousands
22:38
Speaker 8: till you know, whenever it was that we decided Oligark's
22:41
Speaker 8: Russian oligark sh shouldn't own things in other parts of
22:44
Speaker 8: the world. So just a couple of years ago, and
22:46
Speaker 8: he was an owner who didn't care. He just spent, spent, spent,
22:49
Speaker 8: and you know, was just all about trying to win.
22:51
Speaker 8: Won five Premier League titles, won a couple of Champions
22:53
Speaker 8: League's titles, so you know, he just would fire coaches
22:56
Speaker 8: left and right, like it was always just action, you know.
22:58
Speaker 8: And then this group came in and they were a
23:00
Speaker 8: little bit more asset private equity, venture capitalist Todd Bowley,
23:05
Speaker 8: who's part of the Dodgers' ownership. He's been the chairperson.
23:08
Speaker 1: For a little while.
23:10
Speaker 8: You know, clear Lake Capital, which is Jose Forliciano's his company.
23:14
Speaker 8: He's he's you know, he's he's sort of been in
23:16
Speaker 8: the background. You know, I pay attention to this sort
23:19
Speaker 8: of stuff, and and I know that the fans don't
23:21
Speaker 8: really like the club. They don't really like that it's
23:23
Speaker 8: it's being run like a business.
23:25
Speaker 1: You know.
23:25
Speaker 8: They want to be and run like it used to
23:27
Speaker 8: be run with this crazy Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich, where
23:32
Speaker 8: you just spend money and like just just go win.
23:34
Speaker 8: Like we don't care. We don't want to hear about
23:36
Speaker 8: financial responsibility and fiscal responsibility.
23:38
Speaker 1: We don't care about that stuff.
23:40
Speaker 4: We don't you know, we don't want to.
23:41
Speaker 1: We don't want to.
23:41
Speaker 8: Hear about how you're managing your assets and capitalizing on player.
23:46
Speaker 1: We don't.
23:46
Speaker 8: We don't got interested spend and win. That's all we
23:49
Speaker 8: care about here. So you know, they don't like this group.
23:51
Speaker 8: You know, this group is run like a like a
23:54
Speaker 8: venture capital like a private equity company, where they you know,
23:56
Speaker 8: boost a bunch of assets and sell them at their
23:58
Speaker 8: highest peak, and and you know they do it for
24:00
Speaker 8: the bottom line. They treat it like an ATM. Now
24:03
Speaker 8: the understanding is that that Jose Feliciado is not using
24:08
Speaker 8: this company necessarily to buy the podres that this is,
24:13
Speaker 8: you know, a three point nine billion dollar valuation on
24:16
Speaker 8: the team. It doesn't mean he's buying it for three
24:17
Speaker 8: point nine billion dollars, but whatever percentage he's getting, he's
24:20
Speaker 8: buying in at the price of three point nine billion,
24:23
Speaker 8: which still needs to be sorted through. Maybe there's some
24:25
Speaker 8: some part of the current ownership that sticks around, or
24:28
Speaker 8: maybe you know who knows, but it's it's not his,
24:32
Speaker 8: his clearly capital group that's buying it. It's Jose Feliciano
24:37
Speaker 8: and his wife Kwanza Jones. That's an important distinction because
24:42
Speaker 8: if it's just going to be run like a private
24:45
Speaker 8: equity company like Chelsea, then then maybe Pottery fans end
24:48
Speaker 8: up feeling like, we're not into this or what's this
24:52
Speaker 8: all about. Maybe someday they end up building a level
24:56
Speaker 8: of symmetry with with Chelsea fans or one of the
24:58
Speaker 8: other Europeans soccer teams that this group owns in France.
25:03
Speaker 8: You know, they're not too happy with ownership either, but
25:06
Speaker 8: it sounds like they are separating from that group, that
25:09
Speaker 8: this is about Feliciano and his wife Kwanza Jones, that
25:14
Speaker 8: this is them, This isn't the private equity group. And
25:18
Speaker 8: you know, if that's the way the reporting is, and
25:21
Speaker 8: Jared Diamond of the Wall Street Journal, who had this first,
25:24
Speaker 8: just told me this twenty five minutes ago, then I
25:28
Speaker 8: think that sounds a little bit more palatable, that there's
25:31
Speaker 8: a personal connection to these owners who are moving their
25:37
Speaker 8: philanthropy to San Diego, which is so important here. Now
25:40
Speaker 8: are they going to move here? Nobody knows that, but
25:42
Speaker 8: are they going to be part of the community here.
25:45
Speaker 8: It sounds like those are their intentions. And I think
25:48
Speaker 8: that's a really good place to start for podre fans
25:52
Speaker 8: that they want to feel a connection. I don't want
25:53
Speaker 8: to have some owner who's like where is he? He
25:56
Speaker 8: lives someplace else, he doesn't live here, He's not connected
25:58
Speaker 8: to this community. I don't think, after after what the
26:02
Speaker 8: Sidlers and Ron Fowler have delivered in this market, I
26:06
Speaker 8: don't think that that would be really appealing for pottery fans. So, uh,
26:10
Speaker 8: it sounds like early on, you know, for for what
26:14
Speaker 8: it's worth, just based on this reporting that that you know,
26:18
Speaker 8: it's on a scale of Peter Sidler or you know,
26:22
Speaker 8: just completely sort of soulless private equity. It sounds like
26:26
Speaker 8: it's much closer to the Peter Sidler side than it
26:29
Speaker 8: is the other.
26:32
Speaker 3: You keep mentioning his wife. Do we know anything more
26:34
Speaker 3: about her? Or is the cell with her? Is the
26:37
Speaker 3: philanthropy that they plan on bringing to San Diego.
26:40
Speaker 4: And the second part.
26:41
Speaker 3: Of the question is was this them outbidding or was
26:45
Speaker 3: this a decision that the previous owners of the Padres
26:49
Speaker 3: made because they felt like it was in the best
26:51
Speaker 3: interest of the Padres organization and also the city of
26:54
Speaker 3: San Diego.
26:56
Speaker 8: I we just just asked the same question myself and
26:59
Speaker 8: and you know, I think we all would probably believe
27:02
Speaker 8: that this is just about the highest price, right. This
27:04
Speaker 8: is about three point nine billion dollars. And you know,
27:07
Speaker 8: part of this maybe if it was really really close,
27:09
Speaker 8: or maybe if they were two bids there at three
27:11
Speaker 8: point nine you would say, hey, listen, we have an
27:13
Speaker 8: opportunity here, you know, to to pick somebody you know
27:20
Speaker 8: who's going to be dialed in the community. You know,
27:22
Speaker 8: maybe there were some things there that would put this
27:25
Speaker 8: over the top if it were closed, But it sounds
27:26
Speaker 8: like it just came down a three point nine billion
27:28
Speaker 8: was the most money spent. Now, for the first question,
27:32
Speaker 8: about Kwanza Jones. Not a name frankly that I knew
27:35
Speaker 8: much of when I woke up today. She is an artist,
27:40
Speaker 8: a philanthropist, runs her own business.
27:43
Speaker 1: There's lots of.
27:44
Speaker 8: Things I'm not I don't know her music, so you'll
27:48
Speaker 8: have to forgive me. I'm sure people in San Diego will.
27:51
Speaker 8: We'll be learning a lot about her music today. But
27:53
Speaker 8: you know, it sounds like she is carved out her
27:55
Speaker 8: you know, certainly her own name, her own career, her
27:59
Speaker 8: own success. You know, she does a lot of philanthropy herself.
28:04
Speaker 8: And it sounds like they're going to be again what
28:08
Speaker 8: Jared Diamond of The Wall Street Journal said that they're
28:10
Speaker 8: going to be pretty equal in all of this. You
28:12
Speaker 8: know that it is going to be them. It is
28:14
Speaker 8: going to be Jose Feliciano Junior and Kwanzi Joe. Now,
28:18
Speaker 8: only one can be the chairperson obviously that's for major
28:21
Speaker 8: League Baseball roles, and that will be Feliciano, so he
28:24
Speaker 8: will be the one sitting at the table. But it
28:27
Speaker 8: sounds like like what we would expect is for the
28:29
Speaker 8: two of them to be really involved in the operations
28:33
Speaker 8: of the club, both baseball business and philanthropic.
28:39
Speaker 1: One more on this front.
28:41
Speaker 2: What was the perception of Joe Lacub and you know
28:44
Speaker 2: what he's been able to do.
28:45
Speaker 1: I know you mentioned it.
28:47
Speaker 2: If you had to pick, would you say he was
28:50
Speaker 2: the fan favorite based on the success that he's had
28:54
Speaker 2: with the Warriors franchise and the familiarity factor for people
28:58
Speaker 2: in California.
28:59
Speaker 8: Probably, I mean, I think just because of the familiarity, right,
29:02
Speaker 8: because it's easy to sit and say, you know, Scott
29:06
Speaker 8: like listen, like he's he's won four NBA titles and
29:09
Speaker 8: we all, you know, even we're still watching Steph Curry
29:11
Speaker 8: and Draymond Green do their things. And yeah, I think
29:14
Speaker 8: there's been some you know, some good healthy conversation about well,
29:18
Speaker 8: how much of it is la like Up. But Lakeup's
29:20
Speaker 8: success speaks for itself.
29:21
Speaker 7: You know.
29:21
Speaker 8: We had Dave Fleming, the Voice of the Giants on recently,
29:25
Speaker 8: and you know, Dave is a Bay Area guy, and
29:27
Speaker 8: we asked him if the Potteries end up with Joe
29:29
Speaker 8: Lacup as their owners, it's a good thing. He said, yeah,
29:31
Speaker 8: it'd be a great thing because look at look at
29:33
Speaker 8: how the ownership valuation of the Warriors the skyrocket, and
29:38
Speaker 8: they're ahead of everybody They're ahead of my next the other,
29:40
Speaker 8: ahead of everybody in the NBA. So it's an incredible
29:43
Speaker 8: success story. Now does he deserve all the credit for that?
29:46
Speaker 8: Or you know, did they get Steph Curry going and
29:49
Speaker 8: Steve Kerr and Draymond Green?
29:50
Speaker 1: Right?
29:50
Speaker 8: So whatever, you know, he gets a ton of the credits.
29:53
Speaker 8: So I think people probably were most familiar with that.
29:55
Speaker 8: There was a story in Forbes not too long ago
29:58
Speaker 8: that Joe Lacup might move it, and that resonated for
30:02
Speaker 8: a little while around here that there was some you know,
30:04
Speaker 8: some apprehension maybe Joe Lacup just wanted to move it
30:06
Speaker 8: to the Bay Area. I don't think that was really
30:09
Speaker 8: going to happen, but he he did pick up a
30:11
Speaker 8: little bit of that stink, not enough that that I
30:14
Speaker 8: think people would have would have not been happy with
30:17
Speaker 8: it today, But yeah, I think he was probably the
30:20
Speaker 8: most familiar candidate. And people also like this other name,
30:23
Speaker 8: Dan Friedkin, just because he was born in San Diego
30:26
Speaker 8: and had some roots here, so that matters, you know,
30:29
Speaker 8: because you wanted somebody who would be connected to the community.
30:32
Speaker 8: Feliciano did you know, spend a lot of time in
30:34
Speaker 8: his life. He was Puerto Rican born, but he did
30:36
Speaker 8: grow up in southern California, so understands you know, it's
30:40
Speaker 8: it's not going to be Southern California's different than it
30:44
Speaker 8: is a lot different than London, right, So you know,
30:46
Speaker 8: if you're just dealing with some guy who only understands
30:48
Speaker 8: business in London, this is a different place. So I
30:51
Speaker 8: think it's good that that Jose Feliciano and his wife
30:54
Speaker 8: have that understanding. So but yeah, to answer your question
30:57
Speaker 8: in the most long winded way possible, I do think
30:59
Speaker 8: the people probably like the idea of Lake Up just
31:04
Speaker 8: because we're sort of flying blind here and that's the
31:06
Speaker 8: name that most people knew.
31:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, Padre's question for you, I don't know if you
31:12
Speaker 3: saw these rumors, if there's any legs to these rumors,
31:15
Speaker 3: and you cover the team, was there any talks to
31:18
Speaker 3: Fernando that he's playing second base during spring training?
31:21
Speaker 4: Because the rumors I saw was.
31:23
Speaker 3: They were potentially showcasing him to potentially move his contract.
31:27
Speaker 3: And does that change with a new ownership group coming in.
31:32
Speaker 8: I don't think so. I mean, the rumors about showcasing
31:35
Speaker 8: him really kind of came out of no place.
31:37
Speaker 1: You know.
31:37
Speaker 8: I think that Fernando does a lot of things. I think,
31:40
Speaker 8: you know, there now there's a ton of video that
31:44
Speaker 8: has popped up of Fernando taking ground balls at shortstop.
31:48
Speaker 8: He still does that on a regular basis. You know,
31:50
Speaker 8: he still does take a lot of ground balls. And
31:53
Speaker 8: you know, the idea, according to craigs Dam and the
31:55
Speaker 8: manager and even Fernando is yeah, this was an idea
31:58
Speaker 8: that was kicked around a little bit in the off season.
32:00
Speaker 8: I don't think it has anything to do with showcasing him.
32:03
Speaker 8: I don't, you know, I think it's it's now. I
32:07
Speaker 8: do think maybe there's more to it than well, we
32:11
Speaker 8: just were giving Xander Bogart's a day off, and we
32:13
Speaker 8: wanted to move Jay Cronerworth, so let's have Fernando play
32:17
Speaker 8: a position that he's really never played in the big
32:19
Speaker 8: leagues before. I do think that there might be a
32:22
Speaker 8: little something to the idea that that you know, Fernando's
32:25
Speaker 8: not been off to a great start, you know, still
32:27
Speaker 8: doesn't have a home run as we're here on April seventeenth,
32:30
Speaker 8: and maybe they were trying to to you know, stimulate
32:33
Speaker 8: him mentally in some capacity. And you know, he had
32:36
Speaker 8: five hits in the two games that he played so
32:39
Speaker 8: up until that point, he hadn't had a ton of
32:41
Speaker 8: offensive success, So maybe they were trying something just to
32:45
Speaker 8: you know, move him around a little bit and you know,
32:48
Speaker 8: challenge him in a way that he had to focus
32:50
Speaker 8: there and not focus so much on what he was
32:52
Speaker 8: doing in the batter's box. But I don't think it's
32:54
Speaker 8: about showcasing so that on an MLB network didn't really
32:58
Speaker 8: understand it. I don't think most people around here put
33:01
Speaker 8: a ton of stock into it. But you know, as
33:04
Speaker 8: as and now with a new owner, we don't even know.
33:07
Speaker 8: It's generally been believed that the Potters are going to
33:09
Speaker 8: have to take down this payroll in some capacity. It's
33:12
Speaker 8: it's sort of been put by Ken and by others
33:15
Speaker 8: that they're going to have to do that. Maybe this
33:18
Speaker 8: owner doesn't necessarily agree with that, so from that, I
33:23
Speaker 8: don't know. I think that if they were trying to
33:25
Speaker 8: do that, all bets are off just based on a
33:28
Speaker 8: new ownership coming through the door in a couple of weeks.
33:30
Speaker 2: Oh man, if you want to lose your fan base
33:33
Speaker 2: really quickly, buy the team for a ton of money
33:35
Speaker 2: and then start gutting your first.
33:38
Speaker 8: Move like you know, that's not got to work here.
33:41
Speaker 8: You know that's not going to work, and you can
33:42
Speaker 8: get back a one Soto level kind of deal. I
33:44
Speaker 8: don't think that's going to work around these parts. So
33:47
Speaker 8: that would be a terrible first impression if that's the
33:49
Speaker 8: way the new owners were going to operate.
33:51
Speaker 2: I agree, what you do in the beginning really sets
33:53
Speaker 2: the tone for how people look at you for a
33:55
Speaker 2: long time. So we'll see what happens, Darren, great insight.
33:58
Speaker 2: Really appreciate you coming on with us, you know, with
34:00
Speaker 2: the quick hit last minute here in the news.
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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens, and of course.
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Speaker 2: We'll catch you on everything you do Twitter, and then
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Speaker 2: of course Friar Territory.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Ben, have a great.
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Speaker 8: Weekend, guys, appreciate you. Thank you very much.
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Speaker 2: All Right, So a couple other things just to give
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Speaker 2: you a glimpse of what's going on this weekend. Actually
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Speaker 2: let's start here since this could affect the way that
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Speaker 2: you look the rest of the series. Here with the
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Speaker 2: Mets and the Cubs, they're just starting up now. And
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Speaker 2: also I heard the winds blown out like crazy, so
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Speaker 2: there could be a lot.
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Speaker 1: Of homers today.
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Speaker 2: A couple of injury updates, though I don't even remember
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Speaker 2: if we mentioned this with Ken, so I'll mention it again.
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Speaker 2: Jorge Polanco is going through multiple injury issues now, so
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Speaker 2: he's getting imaging right wrist soreness on top of the
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Speaker 2: achilles versitis. For the new met who signed a two
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Speaker 2: year forty he's going through it right now.
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Speaker 1: He's had an injury history.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a player who's definitely dealt with
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Speaker 2: a lot, a lot, a lot, so he is dealing
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Speaker 2: with more now. And you know, the news gets tougher.
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Speaker 2: In that same series, the Cubs keep losing arms. We
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Speaker 2: talked about this yesterday with not just the starters, but
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Speaker 2: the bullpen arms going down, Film Aton and Hunter Harvey.
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Speaker 2: We just got this news that Danny Poalentia is going
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Speaker 2: on the shelf. They're a big fireballer, A strained oblique,
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Speaker 2: strained left oblique for him.
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Speaker 1: That's a tough blow crats for a Cubs.
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Speaker 2: Team that I would say, weakness wise, doesn't have a
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Speaker 2: ton of swing and miss firepower in their bullpen, especially
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Speaker 2: now with all these guys out and Porter Hodge, you
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Speaker 2: know they lost for the year. I mean the big
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Speaker 2: like swing and miss arms are just either out for
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Speaker 2: the year.
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Speaker 6: Or out for a while, and I mean, I guess,
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Speaker 6: I guess you would say, I guess it's glass half
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Speaker 6: four or half empty. Chicago can be a place that
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Speaker 6: you just need contact pictures. You don't necessarily need strikeouts.
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Speaker 6: So but the wind's blowing out and you have contact guys,
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Speaker 6: then rig League turns into a slam fest. So Palencia
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Speaker 6: being hurt to me, I thought, I honestly thought, until
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Speaker 6: Polencia came on the scene part way through last year,
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Speaker 6: is like dominant, dominant. I thought Porter Hodge was going
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Speaker 6: to be the guy. I mean, this dude was coming
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Speaker 6: in just throwing ridiculous bowling ball cutters up there that
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Speaker 6: were like nobody was touching. And now you lose both
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Speaker 6: those guys for any any amount of time. Very few
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Speaker 6: bullpens can sustain that, you know, besides the Padres, Padres
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Speaker 6: could probably lose two high end upper echelon arms and
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Speaker 6: still be able to sustain it. But even then, like
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Speaker 6: it just changes how your team is going to look
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Speaker 6: in For the Cubs, I talked about it the other day.
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Speaker 6: With the Padres bullpen, the Cubs now lose two guys
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Speaker 6: at the end of their at the end of the game,
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Speaker 6: somebody has to step up for those big innings.
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Speaker 5: But also.
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Speaker 6: Who in their roation is going to give them six
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Speaker 6: or seven innings every other time through the rotation? Like,
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Speaker 6: to me, is tyn gonna be able to step up?
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Speaker 6: Is this what they got in Edward Cabrera? Are they even?
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Speaker 6: Is Craig Counsel even gonna be allowed to let those
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Speaker 6: guys go that long?
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Speaker 1: You know?
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Speaker 6: I think to me, if somebody's gonna give you some length,
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Speaker 6: it would be Ti on Showta. Maybe maybe he regains
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Speaker 6: his Rookie of the Year or his rookie year status
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Speaker 6: where he was going complete game. Maybe he gives you innings,
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Speaker 6: but you need somebody to give you innings to mitigate
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Speaker 6: the loss of two big bullpen pieces, no matter how
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Speaker 6: good their bullpen is or isn't.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I heard you guys, what was it
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Speaker 3: yesterday or the day before with Todd Father, You guys
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Speaker 3: were talking about Lucas Giolito and a fit, And I
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Speaker 3: feel like it's even more of a fit now because
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Speaker 3: you do need some more depth than your rotation, which
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Speaker 3: could move a guy like a Sod into the bullpen
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Speaker 3: and kind of be a more of a long relief guy.
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Speaker 3: When some of these starters don't go deep into the game.
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Speaker 3: But also to Cratz's point too, if there's ever a
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Speaker 3: time in the year, and I know you only play
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Speaker 3: half your games at home and the wind is blowing
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Speaker 3: out today, but historically and Wrigley Field, early on in
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Speaker 3: the season, you can get away with less swing and
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Speaker 3: miss and a little bit more contact because that win
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Speaker 3: acts as like a tenth defender out there.
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Speaker 4: But at some.
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Speaker 3: Point it's just too much to overcome. And it's just
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Speaker 3: like it feels like and I think we talked about
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Speaker 3: this last time a Zonkratzeat's you know, sometimes the difficulty
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Speaker 3: early in the year is when you go from these
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Speaker 3: warm places like Florida and Arizona and then you get
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Speaker 3: into a cold climate like Chicago, and then you go
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Speaker 3: on the road and you come back. It's just it's
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Speaker 3: a very difficult thing that an athlete has to deal with,
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Speaker 3: you know, going from cold to warm back to cold,
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Speaker 3: and sometimes the body just can't handle it.
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Speaker 1: Good analysis and one more game.
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Speaker 2: I just wanted to throw out there, a weekend set
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Speaker 2: that I think will be good. Rangers Miners nine and
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Speaker 2: forty Eastern Tonight, you've got the grom matching up with
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Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert. That's a good little opener there to start
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Speaker 2: the series.
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Speaker 1: You know, good little first gamer.
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Speaker 2: Also Mariners coming off being swept by the Padres, including
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Speaker 2: that tough loss for them where the Padres blitzed them
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Speaker 2: in the ninth we talked about the other day, and
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Speaker 2: then again Padres got the job done last night against Sattle.
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Speaker 2: let's slap and this is sad news to pass along
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Speaker 2: that broke during our show. Garrett Anderson, who is really
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Speaker 2: an angel's legend for all. We talked about Trout earlier
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Speaker 2: in the show, the all time leader in games, Hits, Runs, RBIs,
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Speaker 2: many more categories.
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Speaker 1: Garrett Anderson staple.
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Speaker 2: Out in Anaheim, super well respected, great dude, kind soul
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Speaker 2: passes away at the age of fifty three. Awful and
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Speaker 2: you know when you say that, you're like, what the
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Speaker 2: heck happened? The only thing I've seen so far John
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Speaker 2: Hayman said, heart attack is suspected, so something medically just terrible, terrible.
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Speaker 1: So we're thinking about.
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Speaker 2: The family, anyone that's known him and friends with him,
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Speaker 2: Angels organization, Mike Trapp just put something out on socials,
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Speaker 2: so it's very, very difficult to learn the news just
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Speaker 2: now during the show, KP. Did you run into him
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Speaker 2: at all when you were with the Angels.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was around.
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Speaker 3: He did some TV stuff for the team, But I
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Speaker 3: mean I grew up in some California. I was more
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Speaker 3: of a Dodger fan, but obviously the Angels were somewhat
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Speaker 3: popular at that time too, during their World Series runs,
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Speaker 3: and I just remember what a perfect guy to talk about,
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Speaker 3: you know, slowing the game down and looking like things
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Speaker 3: came easy to him, and breathing and not gripping the
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Speaker 3: bat tight because he had a sweet left handed swing
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Speaker 3: and he was he was a fun to He was
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Speaker 3: fun to watch, and you know, I would imagine, you know,
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Speaker 3: Mike was pretty close with him because you know, he's
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Speaker 3: obviously Angels royalty and he was around a ton. I
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Speaker 3: got a chance to interact with him very little during
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Speaker 3: my time there, but he was a big part of
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Speaker 3: the Angels family doing some TV and then also just
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Speaker 3: kind of being an ambassador for the Angels.
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Speaker 6: I was trying to see if it was Bobby Wilson
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Speaker 6: that said it. I think Bobby played with him, but anyway,
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Speaker 6: whatever whoever it was, it was one of Garrett Anderson's teammates,
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Speaker 6: and he goes for all. He said, I used to
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Speaker 6: just ste when I'm on deck taking practice, swing practice swing,
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Speaker 6: and he goes. One day I looked up up in
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Speaker 6: Garrett Anderson is kneeling on a knee with his bat
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Speaker 6: resting on the leg that's up, and they were like.
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Speaker 5: What are you doing.
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Speaker 6: He's like just getting ready to go hit and his
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Speaker 6: swing looked like there wasn't much effort in it, but
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Speaker 6: the results were an absolute laser show. I mean, some
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Speaker 6: of the years you need to He's a guy that
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Speaker 6: you need a baseball reference, especially on a day when
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Speaker 6: you know his family's morning is lost like pay some
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Speaker 6: pay some tribute to a sweet, swinging left handed hitter
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Speaker 6: that absolutely raked and probably was one of the most
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Speaker 6: more underrated players during that time.
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Speaker 1: Angels won a World Series in two thousand and two.
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Speaker 2: He had what ended up being the winning hit, the
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Speaker 2: difference maker in the final game. There Garrett Anderson gone
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Speaker 2: way too soon, fifty three years old. They're gonna wear
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Speaker 2: a pats. They already announced that for the rest of
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Speaker 2: the year. It just tough, especially when you learn to
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Speaker 2: someone that's passing away at that age.
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Speaker 1: That's it for us here on FT. You got a
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Speaker 1: few extra.
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Speaker 2: Minutes back, so go watch some Garrett Anderson clips for
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Speaker 2: those few extra minutes that we'd usually fill for you,
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Speaker 2: and then we'll be back with you on Monday. The
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Speaker 2: usual let's do crawts hats, get a smile on the
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Speaker 2: way out.
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Speaker 1: What do you got?
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Speaker 6: I mean the Braves one of Garrett Anderson's teams that
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Speaker 6: people didn't realize he played for.
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Speaker 1: So yep, good call.
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Speaker 2: Enjoy the weekend everyone, We'll see you Monday.