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Legally Brunette Presents: ‘Til Death Do Us Part - The Black Widower · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Hi guys, welcome to an episode of Till Death Do
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  Speaker 1: Us Part. I'll be your host today, Emily Simpson. And? Shane. Today,
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  Speaker 1: before we get into, well, we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: Thomas Randolph, who is, he's known as the Black Widower.
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  Speaker 1: But before we get into talking about him and his
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  Speaker 1: four dead wives out of six, let's just do a
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  Speaker 1: little update on Caleb Flynn, because he was sentenced on Monday.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so let's get to Caleb Flynn. So an
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  Speaker 1: Ohio judge sentenced Caleb Flynn, 40, he's 40 years old,
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  Speaker 1: to life in prison without the possibility of parole for
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  Speaker 1: the February shooting of his wife, Ashley. This happened in
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  Speaker 1: the family's Tip City home. Tip City is near Dayton, Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: by the way. The judge added consecutive terms of nine
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  Speaker 1: years for evidence tampering and seven years for firearms specifications.
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  Speaker 1: A jury had convicted him less than a week earlier.
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  Speaker 1: The most emotional moments of the hearing came from Caleb
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  Speaker 1: and Ashley's two daughters. Ava is 10 and Alyssa is 12.
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  Speaker 1: And the girls now live with their aunt and uncle.
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  Speaker 1: Some relatives read the girls' written statements aloud as Flynn wept.
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  Speaker 1: Their uncle told the court the girls had written the
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  Speaker 1: letters themselves without any edits.
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  Speaker 2: Every time I see someone weeping like that, and I
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  Speaker 2: know I'm judging and I may be wrong, But it just,
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  Speaker 2: this is how I see it. I see it as like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because you got caught. Like now you're sad. Now you
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  Speaker 2: feel bad. Now, because you got caught. But you didn't care.
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  Speaker 2: Like when you had the gun, when you're on the
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  Speaker 2: backside of a gun, then you had no problem. Then
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  Speaker 2: you did whatever you wanted to do. But now you're
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  Speaker 2: locked up and everyone caught you. So you're sad and
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  Speaker 2: you're crying. So you're saying. I just don't, it's just
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  Speaker 2: hard for me to see any sincerity in that. When
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  Speaker 2: I see that. It doesn't mean there isn't sincerity. It's
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  Speaker 2: hard for me to see it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he maintains his innocence. So if he's weeping, then
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  Speaker 1: he would be weeping for himself.
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  Speaker 2: Probably.
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  Speaker 1: Because he's not admitting that he did anything. So it's
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  Speaker 1: not like he's weeping from remorse.
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  Speaker 2: Or as if he's weeping because I didn't do it,
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  Speaker 2: but they're saying I did. Because when I caught people
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  Speaker 2: shoplifting and internal theft at Target, They all felt bad.
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  Speaker 2: And it was always their first time. And I'm like, really?
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  Speaker 2: Because I've been on record like 10 times doing this.
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  Speaker 2: I just didn't get you. And they'd always apologize and
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  Speaker 2: promise to never do it again. Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 1: Ava asked her father in her letter that was read
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  Speaker 1: in court, what did she, and she's referring to Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: her mother, ever do to make you hate her so much?
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  Speaker 1: Alyssa asked whether he had ever considered how much pain
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  Speaker 1: you would bring your own two daughters. Both girls described
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  Speaker 1: their ongoing grief, and Ava said she still cries every day.
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  Speaker 1: She told her father that each step had been his decision,
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  Speaker 1: ending with, it was your choice to kill the only
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  Speaker 1: mother I've ever had. Alyssa criticized his nearly two-year affair
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  Speaker 1: with Aaliyah Botner, and she questioned how he could lead
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  Speaker 1: worship at church while hiding it. The girls urged him
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  Speaker 1: to confess and seek forgiveness. Ava wrote, please tell Jesus
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  Speaker 1: that you're sorry. and Alyssa closed with a blunt line,
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  Speaker 1: and by the way, I don't plan on coming to
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  Speaker 1: see you. Speaking before his sentencing, Caleb Flynn admitted he
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  Speaker 1: had lied about many things and apologized for cruel remarks
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  Speaker 1: that he had made about his wife. However, he still
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  Speaker 1: insisted that he did not kill her and said he
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  Speaker 1: would keep fighting the conviction. He also told his daughters
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  Speaker 1: he loved them and regretted missing their futures. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this man was just He just wanted to get rid
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  Speaker 1: of his wife so that he could just be with
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  Speaker 1: his mistress. And at the end of the day, he
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  Speaker 1: thought the best way to get rid of his wife
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  Speaker 1: was to shoot her in the back of the head
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  Speaker 1: and then pretend like it was an intruder. And then
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  Speaker 1: he thought that he was going to have a fairytale
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  Speaker 1: life with this 20-year-old, this younger woman that he was
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  Speaker 1: clearly obsessed with. And then his two daughters were going
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  Speaker 1: to live with them, and he was just going to
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  Speaker 1: have this happy life of him and his mistress and
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  Speaker 1: his two daughters, and the wife is gone.
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  Speaker 2: And the sad part is that guy would have slept
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  Speaker 2: just fine. He had no conscience for having killed Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: He probably would have. And now he's sitting in court weeping.
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  Speaker 1: His daughters want nothing to do with him and made
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  Speaker 1: it very clear they wouldn't even visit him in prison.
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  Speaker 1: And his one daughter asked him to basically repent and
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  Speaker 1: admit that he killed Ashley and So that at least
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  Speaker 1: he could have some peace with God. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? Some internal peace by admitting to it. Ashley's
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  Speaker 1: sister and brother-in-law remembered Ashley Flynn as a teacher, a
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  Speaker 1: woman of faith, and a devoted mother. They described the
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  Speaker 1: girls visiting her grave nearly every day. How sad. These
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  Speaker 1: young girls, their father's in prison and they don't want
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  Speaker 1: to have anything to do with them. Their mother's dead
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  Speaker 1: and they go and visit her grave every day. They
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  Speaker 1: lost their entire family because this man was having an
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  Speaker 1: affair with And was obsessed with his mistress.
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  Speaker 2: One, he couldn't just file for divorce. Right. Couldn't just
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  Speaker 2: leave her.
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  Speaker 1: Couldn't just say, I don't want to be in this
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  Speaker 1: relationship anymore.
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  Speaker 2: It'd even be more respectful if he just kicked her
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  Speaker 2: out of the house. Like, anything would be better than
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  Speaker 2: killing her.
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  Speaker 1: Put her stuff on the front yard and say, just
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  Speaker 1: be that guy. Just be that guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, be that kind of jerk.
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  Speaker 1: Judge Jeanine Pratt said that Caleb Flynn had taken something
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  Speaker 1: his daughters could never recover from. She noted that the
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  Speaker 1: court could not answer Ava's question about why he hated
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  Speaker 1: her mother so much and that no answer could ever
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  Speaker 1: justify the crime. All right. So that is Caleb Flynn.
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  Speaker 1: He's now going to prison for life. No chance of parole,
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  Speaker 1: as he should be. All right, let's move on to
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  Speaker 1: Thomas Randolph. He is known as the Black Widower. He
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  Speaker 1: is quite a character, by the way. He's a ladies' man.
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  Speaker 1: He's quite the ladies' man. I don't understand it. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen photos of him. He has
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  Speaker 1: quite the array.
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  Speaker 2: That's quite superficial of you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but this man has– his hairstyles alone are–
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  Speaker 1: sometimes he has ponytails. Sometimes it's long. Sometimes it's feathered
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  Speaker 1: on the side. Sometimes it looks like he has a perm.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot. All right, on a May evening back
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  Speaker 1: in 2008, Thomas Randolph and his wife, Sharon. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: Sharon is his sixth wife.
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  Speaker 2: Does she know she's the sixth wife?
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  Speaker 1: I believe she knows she's the sixth wife, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't think these wives really look much into the history
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  Speaker 1: of the previous wives.
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  Speaker 2: Probably you don't know the answer, but do we know
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  Speaker 2: if it's her first marriage?
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  Speaker 1: It is not.
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  Speaker 2: Is it like her fifth?
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  Speaker 1: So then she would not judge him? No, I know
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  Speaker 1: she has a daughter, an adult daughter, but I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think she had multiple husbands.
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  Speaker 2: I just didn't know if he was getting together with
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  Speaker 2: people that also have kind of poor choices.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so Thomas Randolph and his wife Sharon come
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  Speaker 1: home from a Mother's Day dinner in northwest Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: Minutes later, Sharon is dead and a masked intruder lies
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  Speaker 1: shot on the floor. Randolph is on the phone with
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  Speaker 1: 911 describing how he fought back against a home invader.
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  Speaker 1: When the mask comes off, the intruder turns out to
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  Speaker 1: be Michael Miller, Randolph's friend and handyman. At first, it
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  Speaker 1: looks like a tragedy with an unlikely hero. But as
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  Speaker 1: detectives dig deep into Randolph's past, the story gets darker.
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  Speaker 1: Sharon was his sixth wife and three of the women
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  Speaker 1: before her are also dead. Was Randolph a man cursed
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  Speaker 1: by grief and bad luck or something far more calculated?
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  Speaker 2: Far more calculated.
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  Speaker 1: Far more calculated. All right, let's go through his wives.
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  Speaker 1: In 1975, that is his first marriage. He marries Catherine Thomas.
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  Speaker 1: Catherine Thomas married Randolph when she was just 18 years old.
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  Speaker 1: He was 20. She is one of the two wives
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  Speaker 1: that is still alive. Then his second marriage was in
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  Speaker 1: 1983 to Becky Galt. Randolph married his second wife, Becky,
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  Speaker 1: the same day his divorce from Catherine Thomas was finalized.
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  Speaker 1: This is in 1983. So now we're on to his
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  Speaker 1: second wife.
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  Speaker 2: Then.
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  Speaker 1: There is the alleged murder for hire plot. This is
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  Speaker 1: according to his friend and coworker, Eric Tarantino. Randolph had
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  Speaker 1: asked Tarantino out of the blue to kill Becky. Becky's
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  Speaker 1: his second wife. Then showed him five life insurance policies
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  Speaker 1: that he had in her name. Tarantino said Randolph tried
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  Speaker 1: to convince him to kill Becky and a stage burglary.
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  Speaker 1: So Randolph could collect on her life insurance. Then in 1986,
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  Speaker 1: so this is prior to 1986, he has this conversation
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  Speaker 1: with a friend named Tarantino. And he's like, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I got five life insurance policies on my wife, Becky.
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  Speaker 1: You take her out, and then we'll share the life insurance.
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  Speaker 1: Then in 1986, Becky Galt dies in Utah. Randolph tells
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  Speaker 1: police that she died by suicide in her home, and
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  Speaker 1: her death was initially ruled that way. So he claims
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  Speaker 1: that she shot herself in the head. And guess what
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  Speaker 1: he collects on?
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  Speaker 2: Insurance on all their insurance.
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  Speaker 1: And then it's ruled a suicide. I think they just
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  Speaker 1: kind of took his word for it that he came
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  Speaker 1: home and his wife was shot herself in the head.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the second wife. She's dead. He collects $ 500, 000
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  Speaker 1: and life insurance payout from Becky's murder.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's, I don't think it's taxed either.
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  Speaker 1: Life insurance payouts. You don't have to pay taxes on it.
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  Speaker 2: No. Cause it's making a hole on something. It's a payout. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Um, He was charged with her murder in 1988. So
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  Speaker 1: then Tarantino, the guy that he asked to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he wanted him to help him take his wife out, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He probably wanted to do an intruder scenario. Like, you
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  Speaker 1: come in and pretend like you're burglarizing the house and
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  Speaker 1: kill her, and then we'll split the insurance money. Right.
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  Speaker 1: so tarantino is cooperating in the investigation he's talking to
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  Speaker 1: the investigators and he's saying hey this guy tried to
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  Speaker 1: hire me previously right to kill his wife right so
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  Speaker 1: then from randolph then tries to hire a hitman to
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  Speaker 1: kill tarantino naturally Naturally. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want loose ends. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So Randolph had offered an undercover cop, a car title
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  Speaker 1: and cash to kill Tarantino, who was the star witness
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  Speaker 1: in the Utah case. So it was when it was
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  Speaker 1: after he was arrested because of the suspicious circumstances of
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  Speaker 1: Becky's death, where he claimed it was a suicide. He's arrested.
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  Speaker 1: He's in jail. He's waiting trial while he's waiting for
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  Speaker 1: his trial. He has to get rid of the star witness, Tarantino,
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  Speaker 1: who's going to testify that he had tried to hire
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  Speaker 1: him previously to kill his second wife.
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  Speaker 2: That would be a good use of his time.
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  Speaker 1: So he has a conversation in prison with an undercover cop.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a cop posing as an inmate? Right.
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  Speaker 1: And he tries to hire him to kill the witness.
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  Speaker 2: You can do that? I always got that part confused.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 2: Well, because if it's an undercover cop, then you have potential...
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  Speaker 2: Fifth Amendment, Fourth Amendment rights that could be violated. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know the answer to that, but that is. Because
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  Speaker 2: if this person says, no, I won't answer any questions.
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  Speaker 2: I plead the Fifth. I want an attorney under my
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  Speaker 2: Fourth Amendment right. And an undercover cop goes and talks
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  Speaker 2: to them and gets them to incriminate themselves. I know
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  Speaker 2: it's up for debate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But I think the Supreme Court has said that it's
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  Speaker 2: not the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So then in 1989, so he goes to
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  Speaker 1: trial and this man, I don't know how he managed it.
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  Speaker 1: He's been manipulating the justice system, but he ends up,
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  Speaker 1: he pleads guilty to witness tampering in the case, but
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  Speaker 1: he's acquitted of the murder. So he's actually found guilty.
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  Speaker 1: Like he pleads guilty to trying to get rid of
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  Speaker 1: the star witness against him, but the jury acquits him
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  Speaker 1: of murder. A former friend later testified that around this time,
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  Speaker 1: Randolph would walk around singing the lyrics to Rod Stewart's
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  Speaker 1: Foolish Behavior song, which is a song about killing a wife.
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  Speaker 2: Rod Stewart wrote a song about killing your wife?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's very explicit because they played the lyrics
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  Speaker 1: and the documentary. So there is a documentary on Netflix
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  Speaker 1: that just came out called The Widower. And they played
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  Speaker 1: the song and the lyrics are like, I just shot
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  Speaker 1: her in the head and I killed my wife. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, I couldn't believe that you could have a
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  Speaker 1: song like that. It's pretty explicit. You're gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: look up the lyrics. Anyway.
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  Speaker 2: What's the name of the song again?
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  Speaker 1: Foolish Behavior by Rod Stewart. And it's about killing your wife.
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  Speaker 2: Was he married when he wrote that song?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Was he divorced? I'd be nervous if I was the
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  Speaker 2: ex-spouse and they wrote a song about killing.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So he's acquitted of murder. So now we
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  Speaker 1: move on to his third wife. All right, so he
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  Speaker 1: marries Leona Stapleton. That is his third wife. Randolph met
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  Speaker 1: Leona in Utah, and then the two moved together to Indiana.
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  Speaker 1: They got divorced, and then years later, she died from cancer. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I think Leona died from cancer. I don't think there
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  Speaker 1: was anything suspicious about this. So this was his third wife.
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  Speaker 1: She is no longer with us, but I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he had anything to do with that one.
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  Speaker 2: Really? He just got lucky?
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  Speaker 1: He's like, she just died. I was good. I was
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  Speaker 1: going to take her out.
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  Speaker 2: See, my wives are supposed to be dead. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Then he marries his fourth wife in 1995. Her name
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  Speaker 1: is Gayna Allman, and she survived the marriage. So Gayna
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  Speaker 1: got out.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine those wives that look back and think, oh, man,
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  Speaker 2: I could have been like one of the dead. Right.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Then he marries his fifth wife. Her name
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  Speaker 1: is Frances Randolph. Prosecutors claim that Randolph plotted to kill
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  Speaker 1: his fifth wife, Frances Randolph, as well. A man named
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  Speaker 1: Glenn Morrison testified that Randolph had asked him to kill
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  Speaker 1: Frances and suggested he staged the crime scene as a burglary.
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  Speaker 1: This guy, Glenn Morrison, testified he said he backed out
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  Speaker 1: because he feared Randolph would murder him after he killed Frances. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You think? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, look, I see where this is going.
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  Speaker 2: I see a pattern here.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to want me to come in and kill
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  Speaker 1: your wife. And you're going to tell me that we're
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  Speaker 1: going to split the insurance money, but then you're going
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  Speaker 1: to kill me, right?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to need the money up front, buddy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm going to need you not to be present
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  Speaker 1: during this. So anyway, he doesn't want to have anything
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  Speaker 1: to do with it. However, Francis, we're still on his
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  Speaker 1: fifth wife. Francis had heart surgery in 2004, which this
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  Speaker 1: is kind of shady. They do allude to like this being.
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing? I'm looking up those Rod Stewart lyrics.
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  Speaker 2: You told me to.
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  Speaker 1: I meant after.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, I got to read this.
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  Speaker 1: All right, go ahead. Read the Rod Stewart lyrics.
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  Speaker 2: Here's a verse. The moment of truth has come. I'm
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  Speaker 2: at the point of no return. I've got my hands
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  Speaker 2: locked around her throat. I'm about to kill my wife.
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  Speaker 2: That's a Rod Stewart song? Yeah, keep going. It gets worse. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know the lyrics?
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  Speaker 1: Well, they played it in the documentary.
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  Speaker 2: Don't stop me now. I'm going to take her life.
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  Speaker 2: Too late now. I'm going to kill my wife. Can't
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  Speaker 2: help myself. I'm going to take her life. Telephone rang,
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  Speaker 2: and he woke up from his sleep, his wife snoring
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  Speaker 2: sadly next to him. It was all a nasty dream.
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  Speaker 2: Not a nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: No, just a dream.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: If you start listening to this Rod Stewart song, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to be concerned. Is it going to be on
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  Speaker 1: your playlist?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you mean your spray is going to inspire me.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm not scared of you.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So back to Francis, we're still on his
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  Speaker 1: fifth wife. She had heart surgery in 2004, which was
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  Speaker 1: performed by a doctor that Randolph had specifically picked out
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  Speaker 1: for her. Now they keep talking about how this was
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  Speaker 1: a doctor he specifically picked. Obviously there isn't any evidence
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  Speaker 1: to suggest that he had some kind of plot with
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  Speaker 1: this doctor, but, but it is interesting that he specifically
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  Speaker 1: picked out this doctor. So I think that's just a
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  Speaker 1: fact that you have to keep in your brain as
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  Speaker 1: to what happens after that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Um, after surgery, Francis seems to be recovering at first, um,
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  Speaker 1: like recovering well, like no problems from the surgery, right?
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  Speaker 1: No complications or anything. She's just recovering from the surgery,
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  Speaker 1: but her condition suddenly worsens and she ended up not surviving.
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  Speaker 1: authorities never ruled her death a homicide however randolph still
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  Speaker 1: blames it on medical negligence so he came out of
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: her death financially ahead because he was paid on her
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: life insurance right because he obviously had life insurance on
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: her because that's the first thing he does when he
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: gets married to a new wife is he takes out
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: all kinds of life insurance but then he sued the
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: hospital for wrongful death and ended up getting a large
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: settlement from the hospital that's You know, I don't think
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: this man has ever had a job in his life.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I think he just marries women.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: No, his job is to marry someone, pull out a
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: life insurance policy. Right. When you want to move on
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: and you want to cash out, you kill them.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: All right. Now we're at 2005. He is married to
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: his sixth wife, Sharon. Sharon was a widow. That's right.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Her husband died. And she met Randolph in the summer
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: of 2005 through Match.com. I love that this guy's on Match.com.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Well, where is he going to find women? Right. He
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to go out and wine and dine them.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Um, they married in 2006 while they were vacationing in Mexico.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: They were actually on a cruise and I believe the captain.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Courtesy of the prior wife's insurance.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: He's like, let's, let's go on a cruise and let's
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: get married on the cruise. So they get married. I
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: think the, what is it? The captain officiated.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Really?
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: He had time to do that. Yeah. What, what number
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: was that?
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: This is six.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's number six.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: This is number six.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, change it up with the cruise. Yeah.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: So he has Sharon number six. All right. So between
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: 2006 and 2008, prosecutors pointed to insurance policies that he
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: took out on Sharon's life in the two years before
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: her death worth more than $ 300, 000. I have a question.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: How long were they married? Because I just want to
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: know how long they were married until he pulled it out.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Or did he pull it out right away and they
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: were only married two years?
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: No, they're married in 2006. And She's dead by 2008, so... Oh, yeah,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: two years. Yeah, so he was taking out insurance policies.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Because my question was, when he's marrying them, does he know, like,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I'm going to kill you? I think so. Or is
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: it more like he gets to, like, he thinks this
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: is the one, and then it gets to a point
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: where he's like, I can't stand you, and he kills him.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: You know... But if you took out the life insurance
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: policy at the beginning.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: He also talks about how, he openly talks about, because
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of interviews with him, because not only
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: was there all these wives and legal... things that he
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: was going through remember he had a first trial and
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: he was acquitted there's a Dateline producer that was actually
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: following the story the entire time and so he had
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: a personal relationship with him where Randolph would call him
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: all the time and tell him things and do interviews
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: with him he was cocky in the interviews he talked
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: about how he's a womanizer and even though he marries
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: these women like Sharon he would say like Sharon's a
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: great woman she was the love of my life but
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I was always having sex with other women and Sharon
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: knew about it and He was just such a narcissistic womanizer,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: which makes no sense if you look at the man
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: because he's not like, he's odd looking and cocky and gross.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's my takeaway from him.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Does he have the same insurance broker for each of
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: these policies that he pulls out?
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I love- Does he keep going back to the same
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: guy and is like, hey, you know what I'm here for?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Can you get me the same policy? Yeah.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: You remember we talked about this before in a previous
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: one where I don't remember the episode. It was when
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: we were in the Bahamas and we talked about how
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: it's almost like you should have alerts that go to people.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Like a notification on their phone. Right. Like, hey, a
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: life insurance policy was taken out on you.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Click one for details. Yeah. I don't know.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Would you like to know who it was? It's surprising
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: to me that there isn't some type of system in place,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: considering how many people murder because of insurance proceeds.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: And insurance, I mean, there's some governmental entities that kind
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: of monitor and control those, and you have to file things.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: You have to do all kinds of things, right? You
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: can't just like Hang a shingle and just open up
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: an insurance place and you just promise people you'll pay
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: them out if, you know, whatever. So it doesn't seem
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: that difficult to implement something in a system that already exists.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: And some type of a notification system so that people
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: are aware that other people have insurance policies on them.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Right. I mean, how would it be if you got
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: a notification that said, oh, you've had an insurance policy
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: for the last five years, but your husband just increased it. Yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: He wants a double payout.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Right. I should get that notification.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: And it's effective next week. So watch your back.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I should say.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: And your husband asked you to go to Angel Falls
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: in Utah next week.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: That's right. Right? Exactly.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: They're going to make you a cocktail.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Don't drink it.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: All right, so prosecutors pointed to insurance policies that Randolph
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: had taken out on Sharon and the two years before
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: her death worth more than $ 300, 000. Sharon had removed Randolph
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: as the beneficiary of her will after discovering that he
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: was seeing another woman. Sharon has an adult daughter, and
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: she told her daughter she had handwritten a will and
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: said that she wanted to leave everything to her daughter.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. What number? This is the last wife?
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: This is the last wife. This is the sixth wife.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: There would be many more, but he's in jail.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: They put a stop to that.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Is he going to marry someone in jail?
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Probably. I mean, I have a feeling that he's still alive.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: At least there's protections in place. Right. Because you can't
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: have a conjugal visit when you're in prison for life.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Let's get to the actual shooting, the day that Sharon... dies.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: This is May 8, 2008. So Thomas Randolph and 57-year-old Sharon,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: before he kills her, there's a recording of her with
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: a camcorder. They show it in the documentary. He makes
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: a recording of her. And she's kind of sitting there
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: like in the kitchen. And she says, you know, okay,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I want to, I love Thomas Randolph. I'm so in
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: love with him and I want to leave everything to
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: him because I'm so in love with him.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: And can you please add, I would never kill you.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I mean, he's recording it. And to me,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the only takeaway I have, yes, is that this man manipulated, like,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: how do you even have that conversation in the first place?
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Like if I went to you, if I came up
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: to you and said, Hey, I just wanted to make
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: a little video and you tell me how much you
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: love me and that you leave everything to me. Yeah.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, It's bizarre.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: And they did it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: And she did it. However, she did write out a
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: handwritten will that she gave to her daughter that basically
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: said she was leaving everything to her daughter because she
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: found out that he was cheating on her and having
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: sex with all these other women.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Is that will valid? Yes. What state was this?
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Nevada.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Is he going to challenge the will? No.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: No, because he's got legal trouble. He can't even challenge
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the will. He's got to fight a murder conviction first.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: All right, so May 8, 2008, Thomas Randolph and 57-year-old
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Sharon went out to celebrate Mother's Day. When they returned home,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Sharon went inside the house. This is interesting. Sharon goes
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: inside the house while he claims that he stayed in
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the car for a few minutes because he wanted to
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: finish listening to a song. I tell you, women... If
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: you're suspicious of your husband and he sends you into
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the house.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Was it a Rod Stewart song?
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably was. If he says, oh, no, you
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: go ahead, honey. Go on in the house.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I got my Rod Stewart playlist here. I just want
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: to finish it out.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Go ahead alone. I'm going to just sit here in
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: the car and finish listening.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Go lay down in bed and put your blindfold on.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Get some Z's. I'll be in a minute.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Randolph claims that he heard gunshots inside. So he ran
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: in to find his wife dead in the hallway.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: This guy has no issue with thinking, oh, they won't
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: believe this. Because he's been getting away with it.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: He's been getting away with it. He's been manipulating the system.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: He's been getting away with it for so long. He
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: runs in and claims that he finds his wife dead
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: in the hallway. And he claims that an intruder had
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: shot her. Randolph shot the alleged intruder who turned out
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: to be his friend and handyman, Mike Miller. Randolph called
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: police at 8.45 p.m. to report the crime. That's an
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: interesting timeframe because the neighbor claims that they heard the gunshots.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: They heard five gunshots, I believe. The neighbor heard bam, bam, bam.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: That's three.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Bam, bam. But then I think two later. I think
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: it was like three and then two. But I believe
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: that he claims that he heard the gunshots at like
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: 8.33 p.m., But then he doesn't call 911 to report
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: a crime until 845. So to me, it looks like
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: there was like a 15-minute time frame in there where
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: he's probably, I don't know, moving stuff around or staging
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is that he's doing.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Finishing his playlist.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Finishing his song.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's why he didn't call 911. He's like,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I got to finish listening to this song first. All right,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: detectives and Dateline NBC investigative journalist Dan Slepian had traveled
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: to interview the family members of Mike Miller. Now, Mike Miller, remember,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: is the handyman and friend that was the alleged intruder
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: that's in the house that got shot.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Now, you tell me what your takeaway is from this.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: When the police come and they're looking at the crime scene,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: there's video of it, and they find a ski mask
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: on the ground in the garage, but it has no
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: blood on it. So it's not on the man. So
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: he's an intruder in the house, but the ski mask
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: is found laying on the ground in the garage and
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: it has no blood on it.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Why would there be a ski mask at all in
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: this type of crime?
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Because he's an intruder and he's burglarizing. He also had
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: a bag with all of Sharon's jewelry in it. Oh.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: So he was in the house.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: He was also acting as a burglar. Right.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I think that was the plot, the plan. The plan
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: was coming.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Because I'm saying he wasn't worried about her seeing him
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: and he wasn't worried about this Guy seeing him.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: But he was playing the part.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But I'm saying- He got into character.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he didn't really get fully into character because
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I'm saying he didn't have the ski mask on.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: He forgot that part?
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Did he get hot?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Maybe he got hot.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but so you think he was burglarizing the house
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: and then took it off and threw it on.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: The ground or- Do we know if he shot her?
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Do we think he shot her versus the husband? No, there-
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Because if he shot her, what I was going to
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: say was maybe then he took it off and- I
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: don't know, looked at the results. I don't know what.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: And then it left it there.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I do think that Mike Miller shot her because I
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: do believe that they found different bullets from a different gun.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: And then, but I don't think he was, Mike Miller
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: wasn't expecting him to come in and get shot. I
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: think the whole plot was shoot my wife and then
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: we'll split the insurance money.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: But then he goes in and shoots him.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Right. Unless you're dead, then I'll keep it all for myself. Right.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: And there's also a video because when they were investigating
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: this crime, they asked him to reenact what happened that night.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: And they.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's my favorite. When you ask someone guilty to
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: reenact a fake story, they can't do it. No, he doesn't.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: You should watch it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: It's terrible. I've seen several like that and they can't
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: do it because they explain something. And then when you
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: actually try to physically carry it out, it doesn't make sense.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: You should see it though, because he gets into it.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: He acts like a... like a SWAT team, the way
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: he acts it out. He's like, and then he, Oh,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: he acts.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Like he tried to save the day.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: And like, he was like, I came in and I,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and then I grabbed my gun and then I went
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: behind the wall.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: And then I did a somersault over here and I
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: went behind the couch.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: He's like, and then I did a sweep.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: And then he said, then I saw him and I went, bam, bam, bam. Yeah.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: It's very dramatic. You have to watch it. If you
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: watch anything about that, just watch his reenactment of what
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: happened in that house that night. That's worth watching. All right.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Eight months later, Randolph was arrested and charged with two
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: counts of murder with a deadly weapon and a count
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: of conspiracy to commit murder and the death of his
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: wife and the death of Mike Miller. So his first
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: trial is eight and a half years after the actual murder.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: And this is because he would hire a defense team
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: because he has.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Money, right?
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: He has all this insurance money. So he doesn't have
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: a public defender. He hires a defense team. Mm-hmm. Then
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: right before trial, he would fire his defense team completely.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Just get rid of them. So then what happens? Then
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: the judge has to grant a long continuance because he
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: has to get a new defense team. And then it
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: takes forever for the defense team to be able to
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: get up to speed.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: It's like the Sarah Boone thing.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: She had like seven attorneys or something. Right. And then
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: she ended up defending herself. And then like the jury
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: in like 30 minutes found her guilty.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: And they're like, we're done.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: But how long did it take her to get through
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the system?
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: A long time. Exactly. I know.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: So he is manipulating the system. Because he does it
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: multiple times. Then he would fire that defense team right
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: before a trial. And then hire another defense team. And
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: he did this multiple times. So it took eight and
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: a half years for him to actually... But the whole
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: time he's in jail. He is. Yeah.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: So I mean, he's just... And then when he gets
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: convicted of murder, he'll be in jail. So he's delaying it,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: but it's not going to help him.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, so he finally goes to trial. This is the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: first trial. Okay. In June of 2017. Prosecutors argued that
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: stories from Eric Tarantino, remember him? He was the friend
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: that he approached to kill Randolph's second wife, Becky.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: That declined to do so.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: That declined, right. And Mike Miller mirrored each other saying
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Miller is dead only because Tarantino lived to tell the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: story and Randolph was not going to make that mistake again.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: So because he knew that tarantino was going to tell
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: remember he was the star witness that was going to
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: be involved in that plot.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: So it's tarantino's fault well there no but he tarantino
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: was smart.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Right and But they're saying, based upon what happened with
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: that guy, he now knows he can't leave any loose ends.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: He improved his tactics.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: He got better.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Yes. Right.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Evidence about Becky Galt's case was admitted into the trial.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: So this is where he ends up with a retrial. Because...
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: You know this. We went to law school. You're not
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: supposed to... The general rule is prior bad acts are
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: not allowed into a trial to show a propensity that
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: you are a bad person or would commit that crime.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: It's like he's stolen candy before, so he probably stole
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: the candy this time. Right.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: So that's not allowed in trial.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: But there are other ways to bring it in. Right.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: However, the judge in his first trial allowed... the evidence
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: from the first trial in Utah with Tarantino, where he
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: was trying to hire him to kill his wife. And
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: then he was going to testify against him. And then
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: remember he was acquitted by that jury. However, it's the
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: same type of scenario where he said he wanted him
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to come in and be a burglar and intruder. Anyway,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: they allowed that evidence to come into the first trial
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: on June 28th, 2017, the jury convicted Randolph of conspiracy
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: to commit murder and two counts of first degree murder.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: So he gets convicted in 2017. Then I remember this
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Dateline guy that's been following him does an interview with
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  Speaker 1: him and he's very cocky and he talks about how
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  Speaker 1: he's going to get.
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  Speaker 2: Out of prison.
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  Speaker 1: Like they're going to reverse his conviction. And you know
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  Speaker 1: that never happens. Like that hardly ever happens. However, like
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  Speaker 1: he ends up, it ends up happening. It ends up
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  Speaker 1: going to the Supreme Court, not the Supreme Court, the
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  Speaker 1: Supreme Court of Nevada, I believe. And they overturn the
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  Speaker 1: trial court's ruling saying that that evidence and that testimony
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  Speaker 1: and everything that had to do with that initial Utah
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  Speaker 1: case with his second wife should have never been allowed
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  Speaker 1: in for the jury to hear. So then he gets
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  Speaker 1: a retrial.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's people that work really hard at not working.
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  Speaker 2: He works really hard at not having a good marriage,
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  Speaker 2: but getting rid of her and getting free money. And
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  Speaker 2: then he works really hard in jail to delay... like
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  Speaker 2: his sentencing or I should say is, you know, the,
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  Speaker 2: the trial. It's like, this guy is like, it's not
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  Speaker 2: like he's sitting around doing nothing and he's strategizing. He's
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  Speaker 2: manipulating probably every move he makes outside before he went
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  Speaker 2: to jail was like always to benefit himself.
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  Speaker 1: Here, so he has the two surviving wives, remember? So
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  Speaker 1: four are dead. He has two that are surviving. Let's
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  Speaker 1: just go over what they say about him currently.
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  Speaker 2: Can I ask a quick question? You might've mentioned this earlier.
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  Speaker 2: Did he have kids?
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  Speaker 1: He has a daughter and a son from his first marriage.
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  Speaker 1: And then that was it.
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  Speaker 2: So it was from the first marriage, then obviously they've grown.
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  Speaker 2: Have they not seen a pattern yet?
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's interesting because there is a documentary on HBO
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  Speaker 1: called The Black Widower, and it's about him. And they
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  Speaker 1: interview his daughter.
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  Speaker 2: And what do they have to say?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know because I haven't watched it yet. But
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  Speaker 1: I did want to watch it because I wanted to see,
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  Speaker 1: is his daughter as bamboozled by him as everyone else
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  Speaker 1: seems to be? Or is she pretty savvy and knows
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  Speaker 1: that her dad is a killer? I don't know. So
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  Speaker 1: his first wife, Catherine Thomas, who is still alive, she
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  Speaker 1: testified that Randolph threatened her life during their marriage. She
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  Speaker 1: said he was controlling, manipulative, and psychologically abusive. The threats
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  Speaker 1: extended to her new husband, too. So she was remarried
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  Speaker 1: to a man named Stephen Thomas, who was Randolph's former friend.
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  Speaker 1: He testified that Randolph had once asked him if he
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  Speaker 1: would kill someone for $ 25, 000. Stephen later believed that Catherine
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  Speaker 1: was the intended target. That's the first wife. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: he believes and testified that he was trying to plot
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  Speaker 1: to kill the first wife. She just made it out
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  Speaker 1: alive somehow. Catherine and Stephen married in Utah and moved
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  Speaker 1: to Washington to get away from Randolph, who later threatened
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  Speaker 1: to have Stephen killed. This man just has no qualms about.
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  Speaker 2: It's like how we throw away trash. This guy just
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  Speaker 2: wants to kill people that just don't. You know, like
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  Speaker 2: you block someone. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He kills them. Gayna Allman is his third wife. She's
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  Speaker 1: another one that is alive. She described a gun incident
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  Speaker 1: with Randolph rather than a verbal threat. She recalled when
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Randolph's gun went off while he was cleaning it in
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  Speaker 1: front of her and told jurors she thinks that he
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: was trying to kill her. In a Dateline interview, Gayna,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: this is the third wife, said Randolph claimed he didn't
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  Speaker 1: realize the gun was loaded. No charges were filed in
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  Speaker 1: the incident, and she said that not long afterward, while
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: he was at work, she packed up and left. Good
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  Speaker 1: for her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: She's probably thinking, like, thank goodness. What wife was she?
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  Speaker 1: She was number three.
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  Speaker 2: Number three.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess he discharged a gun right in
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  Speaker 1: front of her, and she says that she thinks he
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  Speaker 1: was trying.
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  Speaker 2: To kill her. Well, yeah, he pulled the trigger. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know what was interesting? They show this in the
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  Speaker 1: documentary that's on Netflix. When he was arrested in Utah
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: for the latest murder, they send in a team. And
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: it's the middle of winter in Utah. And he comes
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  Speaker 1: to the door in his boxer shorts. That's all he
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  Speaker 1: has on. And they grab him. As soon as he
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  Speaker 1: opens that front door, because they're pounding on the door,
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  Speaker 1: they grab him and pull him out into the snow.
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  Speaker 1: And he's collapsing and acting like he can't walk. And
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  Speaker 1: his mom comes out. I guess he lives with his mother.
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  Speaker 1: His mom comes out in her curlers and she follows
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  Speaker 1: him to the car. And she's like, are you going
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  Speaker 1: to be okay? It's an interesting thing to watch this
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  Speaker 1: man just being drug through the snow naked just in
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  Speaker 1: his boxer shorts. All right, so his conviction was reversed.
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  Speaker 1: This is in 20, this is late 2020 going into 2021.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about this, but just to be clear, the
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Nevada Supreme Court ruled that the trial court and prosecutors
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: should not have allowed a prior bad act evidence. That
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: means the testimony and the evidence that had to do
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: with Becky Galt's case and its facts should not have
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: been allowed in that trial to be used in his
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: six wife's trial, her case. He goes to a retrial
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  Speaker 1: in August of 2023. This time, prosecutors were largely restricted
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  Speaker 1: to evidence surrounding the death of Sharon and Mike Miller
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  Speaker 1: rather than any allegations involving his previous wives. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know about that. I feel like there had to have
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  Speaker 1: been some kind of exception to allow it in because
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: you're basically talking about the same type of scenario where
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  Speaker 1: you have a burglar situation, an intruder, you know?
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, they ruled that they couldn't use that evidence again.
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  Speaker 2: This is the part where I know we have to
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  Speaker 2: go through all this. Because if you don't have these
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: checks and balances and things, then you're going to have
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: innocent people in jail. But sometimes. You want. It's just like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: forget it. Just lock them up.
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  Speaker 1: You want the like in Candyland where you just get
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: the ladder or whatever. When you get that, you just
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: go straight.
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  Speaker 2: You go up ladders, down chutes. Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But you bypass everything. You just want an expedited route
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  Speaker 1: for people like him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Go straight to jail. Don't collect $ 200. You pass, go. Right.
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  Speaker 1: A woman that he was seeing during his marriage to
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Sharon testified against him at trial that Randolph had asked
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  Speaker 1: her to get life insurance policies naming him. This man,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: he's asking his mistresses. He wants to get life insurance
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  Speaker 1: policies on them.
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  Speaker 2: Again. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We need to implement some type of notification system. Randolph's
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  Speaker 1: own children testified against him, and the jury again convicted him.
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  Speaker 1: He stared straight ahead and was emotionless when the verdict
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  Speaker 1: was read. On April 4th of 2024... He was sentenced.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: During his sentencing, he spoke about how wonderful Sharon is
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  Speaker 1: and how much he loved her. He received a total
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: of 60 years to life in prison, replacing his death sentence.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I believe that's what he got previously in the first
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: trial was he was sentenced to death.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: So he's in jail for life, huh?
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: But he's in jail for life, yeah, because I think
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: he's 71 or something. He is currently incarcerated at Lovelock
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Correctional Center in Nevada, and he has continued to maintain
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: his innocence. His case is featured in a new Netflix documentary,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: The Widower Till Death Do Us Part, as well as
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: NBC's earlier The Widower series and ID's The Black Widower,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: The Six Wives of Thomas Randolph, which includes a prison
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: interview with him, if you're interested in watching.
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  Speaker 2: If I ever met someone and they told me they
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: were married six times, I'd have thoughts. If they told,
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  Speaker 2: then I would probably be like, oh, you know, I
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: don't know if I would ask like, Why didn't the
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: first five work out or whatever? But then if he
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: said like, oh, four of my wives died.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I would be suspicious.
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  Speaker 1: The red flags.
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  Speaker 2: Right there. I'd be like, oh, you killed them. I
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be like, wow, that's just a series of tragedies.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if these women knew how
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: many times he was married.
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  Speaker 2: What person would marry someone when they've had three prior
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: wives die and they've been married so many times? I
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: think anyone would. with common sense would be suspicious. Yeah.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think they were aware of, I think they
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: met on match.com. I think he love bombed them right
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: from the beginning. And I'm sure he has money to
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: spend because he has all this insurance proceeds. So even
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: with his six wife, Sharon, you know, she had lost
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: her husband. She was sad. I know her friends said
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: in the documentary that she was alone and that she
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: didn't want to be alone. So here's this guy that
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: pays attention to her. And I'm sure he love bombs her.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure he's like, let's go on a cruise
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: and he pays for everything. And she's thinking, oh, now
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  Speaker 1: I have someone to spend the rest of my life with.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: He probably said he was married previously, but he doesn't
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: go into details about anything. Who knows how.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Many might even blame her. He might've been like, you know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: making it like it was her fault they're not married
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: anymore or she did something that, you know, caused her
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: own death or something.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Right. So who knows? But anyway, that's Thomas Randolph. Any
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: final thoughts?
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: No, he's in jail forever now, right? In Nevada?
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's incarcerated in Nevada.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Why do you say Nevada? Is it Nevada or Nevada?
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Nevada.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I think you just want to, if I said Nevada,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: you would say Nevada. Probably. You're just trying to be difficult.
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  Speaker 1: Sangria, Sangria, Nevada, Nevada.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. All right.
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• 40:16
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• 40:18
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• 40:20
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• 40:22
  Speaker 2: I would say if you know anyone that had multiple
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: wives die during marriage, to let us know also. Then
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: we'll look into it. That seems like a slam dunk case.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Yes. Or if you.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Know of someone who likes to take insurance policies out.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Or if you're an insurance broker. Yeah.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Do you question these things?
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Right. When someone comes and says, oh, my wife can't
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: make it. I just wanted to up her insurance payout.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's what I want. I want an insurance broker.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Someone out there.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: The same as my third wife. No, my second wife.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: That one.
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  Speaker 2: No, wait, my fourth wife.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I mean. I don't know. All right. Thank you guys
• 41:01
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