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RHOC: Tamra Sued, Shannon's Rude Dude and Alexis wants a Redo · Reality with The King

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Speaker 2: Hey, rain Drops, on today's episode of Reality with the King.
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Speaker 1: What is going on in the OC? I feel like
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Speaker 1: OC now stands for on Court?
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Speaker 2: I don't know if oh, it's the Real Housewives of
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Speaker 2: the Courthouse. Is it the Real Housewise of just confusion?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. But with lawsuits and.
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Speaker 2: Threats and host throwing shade, I had to do this
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Speaker 2: episode with a very special guests.
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Speaker 1: Give it up for the amazing Gibson.
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Speaker 3: John's always a pleasure Carlos when we get together.
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Speaker 2: It's ah, I know, it's a magical mess.
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Speaker 1: How about that?
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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I like that. I like that. Real Housewives
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Speaker 3: is the Courthouse.
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Speaker 1: That's yeah.
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Speaker 2: So that's the new that's the title of this episode.
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Speaker 2: It's called r HOC Real Housewives of the Courthouse. Let's
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Speaker 2: just die right into it. There's so much happening in
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Speaker 2: Orange County. But first thing first, Ryan, the boyfriend of Jen,
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Speaker 2: is suing Tamra Judge.
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Speaker 1: Y oh, FIANCEA. Okay, I'm wanna make it. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: make it very clear.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So Jen's fiance, Ryan is suing Tamra Judge for defamation.
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Speaker 2: If you saw this most recent episode, there's tons of
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Speaker 2: accusations flying through Ryan's direction, involving FBI, involving scamming.
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Speaker 1: Tamara called him a bit. It was it was. It
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Speaker 1: was a whole, entire mess.
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Speaker 2: And what we have learned is Ryan has enlisted the
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Speaker 2: lawyer who worked with Jim Bellino, Alexis's ex when he
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Speaker 2: sued Tamra and Shannon for defamation.
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Speaker 1: And what we do know is that that was settled
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Speaker 1: out of court.
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Speaker 2: And what we do know is Shannon and Tamora have
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Speaker 2: both said that cost them a lot of money. I
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Speaker 2: don't want to quote, but I believe just in attorney fees,
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Speaker 2: it was like half a million dollars.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you heard that.
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Speaker 3: It was definitely like, like I think, I feel like
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Speaker 3: I feel like on the premiere episode, Shannon said it
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Speaker 3: was like three hundred k or something like that. It
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Speaker 3: was like, it was definitely a lot of money.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just to defend a.
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Speaker 3: Defamation in a live podcast recording or something like. So
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Speaker 3: it's like so seemingly innocuous, right, Like so something seemingly
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Speaker 3: something that like pretty much probably every real housewife has done,
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Speaker 3: which is like say something kind of like outlandish on
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Speaker 3: a live podcast recording and like to be hit with
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Speaker 3: a lawsuit over that is wild.
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Speaker 1: No, it's beyond wild. So now Ryan is doing Tamorra.
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Speaker 2: And what is so interesting about all of this is
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Speaker 2: I I have so many thoughts. Everyone knows I love Tamar, Josh,
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Speaker 2: She's a friend of mine. I love her. Tamar is
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Speaker 2: great reality television, right. She says wacky shit, she speaks
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Speaker 2: what's on her mind. She sometimes gets herself in hot water.
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Speaker 2: And I want the audience to know this. When you
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Speaker 2: are a reality star, you sign on to do the show.
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Speaker 2: You guys cannot sue each other, so it's part of
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Speaker 2: the contract. That's part of your contract, because think about it,
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Speaker 2: all they do is in fame each other. Right, So
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Speaker 2: when Lisa Rena asked Derrie, were people doing coke in
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Speaker 2: your bathroom? Intimating that Deri has a coke house, right,
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Speaker 2: Deree cannot sue Lee Serena for for defamation, but PK
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Speaker 2: could because PK doesn't have the same agreement that's a housewife.
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Speaker 2: So the reason why Ryan and a Jambalino is able
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Speaker 2: to sue these women and listen, the other scenario is
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Speaker 2: Ashley Darby's a strange husband, Michael Darby sued Candace Dealer
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Speaker 2: Basket for defamation. Right, That case has since been dismissed,
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Speaker 2: so nothing came out of it from my understanding.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember hearing about sort of like any closure
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Speaker 3: on that, but I also haven't heard about it in
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Speaker 3: a while, so I, well, I would presume that it's
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Speaker 3: either settled or dismissed.
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Speaker 2: Her Yeah, yeah, yeah, one of the other all alleged,
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Speaker 2: so all alledged.
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Speaker 1: When it comes to.
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Speaker 2: Housewives and reality stars in general, when they're on the
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Speaker 2: same show as main cast, they could not sue each other.
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Speaker 1: Ryan is suing Tamra. How do you feel about that, Gibson?
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Speaker 3: I don't love it, to be honest, Like I totally
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Speaker 3: understand where Ryan is coming from in terms of whine
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Speaker 3: to clear his name. And you know, it's acknowledging that
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Speaker 3: Tamra has this huge platform and she's being a little
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Speaker 3: reckless with her words and that's how she can and
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Speaker 3: be as we've all seen, and that's sort of what
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Speaker 3: makes her great at her job. I just worry about,
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Speaker 3: like and the same thing with the Michael Darby thing.
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Speaker 3: I worry that like, once this kind of thing starts
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Speaker 3: to become you know, you know, one is what's the phrase,
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Speaker 3: like you know two is a trend or three is
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Speaker 3: a trend or something like that. Like once it starts
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Speaker 3: to happen more and more, then all has happened more
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Speaker 3: and more, and then it's just becomes this this environment
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Speaker 3: where people just feel like their husbands can sue each other.
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Speaker 3: Because it almost feels like Ryan's like suing on behalf
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Speaker 3: of like Jen and Ryan together almost, you know what
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Speaker 3: I mean, Like it's like the husband's allowed to do it,
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Speaker 3: As you said, and it's hard also because at the
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Speaker 3: time they filmed this, Tamra obviously had heard about it,
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Speaker 3: he said, and you're confessional. She had known for about
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Speaker 3: six months that like the FBI was allegedly looking into
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Speaker 3: Ryan in terms of his potential connection to this gambling
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Speaker 3: scheme because they're friends with the couple that's really connected
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Speaker 3: to it. And so you know what she was saying
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Speaker 3: in terms of them looking you know, having some sort
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Speaker 3: of connection to the FBI because they were like into him.
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Speaker 3: That allegedly is true, right, but then he gets he
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Speaker 3: eventually got cleared. But this was a long This was
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Speaker 3: filmed months and months and months ago, so what we
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Speaker 3: know now is not what they knew then. So the
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Speaker 3: timeline is also tough, I think with it, Yeah, because
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Speaker 3: what has been happening is Tamra was recently on Watch
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Speaker 3: What Happens Live, like last week, you know, last Thursday night,
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Speaker 3: and Tamra says some things about you know, Ryan allegedly
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Speaker 3: stealing from a Dodgers player.
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Speaker 1: She said on Watch What Happens Live?
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Speaker 3: She did that, She said that she she said that
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Speaker 3: she makes more money on her business than he ow's
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Speaker 3: or whatever, and then she she'd obviously misspoke basically.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So the thing is Ryan felt that both of those
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Speaker 2: things warranted him to sue her for defamation, because not
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Speaker 2: only were things said on the show, but she also
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Speaker 2: made those comments that Gibson just said on Watch What
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Speaker 2: Happens Live, because prior to that, she did say that
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Speaker 2: she misspoke a little bit on a.
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Speaker 1: Couple of things.
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Speaker 2: And when she learned that Ryan was suing her, Ryan
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Speaker 2: posted a photo of the Manlila envelope.
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Speaker 1: On her doorstep.
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Speaker 2: And then Tamra issued a second response to this, and
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Speaker 2: she said this Gibson and I would love to get
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Speaker 2: your thoughts on it. So rain drops, Tamra said recently
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Speaker 2: on her ig story, and I quote as I mentioned
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Speaker 2: on my ig story yesterday, I would like to apologize
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Speaker 2: for and correct the record on a misstatement I made
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Speaker 2: on Watch What Happens Live on Thursday about Ryan. I
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Speaker 2: had no reason to believe that Ryan has stolen any money.
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Speaker 2: I misspoke in tying Ryan to the actions of others.
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Speaker 1: I meant to say my company.
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Speaker 2: Makes more money than what was stolen from the Dodger player. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 2: I misspooke on live television. While Ryan and I have
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Speaker 2: had ongoing issues I do apologize to him for the
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Speaker 2: mistake and wish to make clear that my statement was
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Speaker 2: made in error. Gibson, does that sound like a woman
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Speaker 2: who is scared of spending another three hundred thousand dollars?
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Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely, I don't think. I don't think that she misspoke.
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Speaker 3: I think that she meant to say what she said,
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Speaker 3: but she didn't think that he was going to have
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Speaker 3: the ramifications that it did. She was almost she was playing,
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Speaker 3: she was playing with fire. She was kind of like
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Speaker 3: poking the bear again. I think that she poked it
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Speaker 3: one too many times, you know. And Tamra's just really
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Speaker 3: teetering on the edge. I think this season in a
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Speaker 3: lot of different ways, and she's tempting fate a little bit,
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Speaker 3: I think, and like, again, she's been here before, and
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Speaker 3: so yeah, it's like in some ways, I'm like, you know,
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Speaker 3: she knows how to entertain, she knows how to push
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Speaker 3: the boundary. But if I were her girl, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: No, it's scary because the thing is this, I love
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Speaker 2: the whole cast and you know this, Gibson, I am
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Speaker 2: a change fan of this season.
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Speaker 1: I think this season is.
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Speaker 3: It's a great season.
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Speaker 1: It's super spectacular.
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Speaker 2: I have some of my podcasts that Tamar Judge is
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Speaker 2: needed for the show. She is a fantastic reality star
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Speaker 2: because she gets it. Not defending anybody in the situation, right,
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Speaker 2: because I'm not picking any sides.
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Speaker 1: Tamar knows how to provide good television.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think a lot of what people believe
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Speaker 2: is that.
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Speaker 1: It's at the expense of people's real lives. Right.
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Speaker 2: So I've been very honest about, you know, the way
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Speaker 2: tamarra is sort of.
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Speaker 1: Talking to Shannon and constantly doing these.
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Speaker 2: What people are presumed to be digs as Shannon's sobriety
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Speaker 2: or lack thereof, you know, in terms of how Tamar feels.
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, listen, I don't think it's the nicest
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Speaker 2: thing in the world. And I said, however, we don't
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Speaker 2: see what Tamar may have seen, and we don't know.
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Speaker 1: She knows way more than we do.
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Speaker 2: So I've always tried to give the audience another side
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Speaker 2: of it. Because Tamar's having a difficult season. A lot
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Speaker 2: of people are now calling for her termination, and they
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Speaker 2: were calling for that doing the Shannon Tobacco which I'm like, guys, like,
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Speaker 2: she makes good TV.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Now, but this, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Get real, like we were all bored with Tamara, wasn't
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Speaker 2: on the show, like stop? Do you think Tamar has
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Speaker 2: gone too far in her quest to make television by
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Speaker 2: what she said recently by.
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Speaker 3: Ryan, not in a way that would merit her being
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Speaker 3: fired by means I don't think, Like I mean, I'm
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Speaker 3: so not in that train. I do like disagree with
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Speaker 3: a lot of the way that she's handling a lot
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Speaker 3: of these situations. And I think that like one dynamic
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Speaker 3: that I think is interesting is that you know, she
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Speaker 3: dishes it a lot, and she dishes it a lot
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Speaker 3: in a really intense way and again in a way
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Speaker 3: that delivers good TV, but she doesn't really take it
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Speaker 3: that much. I don't know if it's people are afraid
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Speaker 3: of coming at her or they just don't play that way.
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Speaker 3: But at a certain point it's going to come back
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Speaker 3: to her at the same velocity and with the same
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Speaker 3: power that she dishes it. And I think that we
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Speaker 3: saw an element of that with the Vicky situation when
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Speaker 3: Vicky came for her situation with her daughter and it
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Speaker 3: kind of broke Tamera for a little bit there when
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Speaker 3: she was recovering from that. From that procedure, but like
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Speaker 3: a lot of these women on the show aren't coming
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Speaker 3: for her in that way. And I think that this
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Speaker 3: is sort of Ryan taking action against false claims that
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Speaker 3: she's making against him. That's sort of that's that's sort
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Speaker 3: of an example of that kind of Finally, and I don't,
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Speaker 3: you know, I hope that I hope that they can
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Speaker 3: like figure it out without it becoming some like ugly
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Speaker 3: legal battle. They're all spending all their money on this
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Speaker 3: like kind of frivolous thing. But he clearly fills some
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Speaker 3: type of way about it. He's entitled to that. But no,
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Speaker 3: I don't think the tamor should be fired over something
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Speaker 3: like this. I mean, I just don't.
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Speaker 1: I just no. I mean, listen, I don't either. I
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Speaker 1: don't either. Listen.
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Speaker 2: This is where things are getting tricky when it comes
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Speaker 2: to reality television, right, And we're not going to get
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Speaker 2: into the Kenya Moore Atlanta Housewives of it All, because yeah,
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Speaker 2: we'll talk about that in twenty twenty five when the
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Speaker 2: when the season supposedly is going to air that year.
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Speaker 1: But there is this thing that has been said.
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Speaker 2: On the birth of what Kenya Moore allegedly did it
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Speaker 2: terms of is there like a ceiling when it comes to,
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Speaker 2: you know, being a reality star, being over a housewives,
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Speaker 2: Like when is too much too much?
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Speaker 1: Or when are you just doing your job right?
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Speaker 2: And I do feel like in this climate there seems
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Speaker 2: to be this sort of consciousness of are people too
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Speaker 2: sensitive or are people taking things too far?
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Speaker 1: I am one of the few people who love Ryan.
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Speaker 2: I've always said I think Ryan is great television.
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Speaker 1: I think he is I like I like interesting people.
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Speaker 1: And again, I don't know. I'm not following.
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Speaker 3: He's hard to figure out, which is in a good way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love his jackets, you know. I love
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Speaker 1: Ryan and I think he's great personality. Yeah, he's great TV.
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Speaker 2: And listen, I don't follow sports, so I don't know
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Speaker 2: what's going on in this Dodger's bullshit.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not following. Again, I am following Jin on
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Speaker 1: Housewives though, right who we You and I and love Housewives.
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Speaker 2: I was just about to say, you and I both agree.
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Speaker 2: She is one of the best newcomers.
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Speaker 1: On OC that I've sharen Congevity in a while.
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Speaker 2: She is the quintessential o C housewife and she has
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Speaker 2: staying power on the show. And Ryan is so interesting
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Speaker 2: that I'm invested in their relationship and in their storyline.
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Speaker 1: I for some reason, this is my theory.
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Speaker 2: I think Ryan wanted to teach Tamara lesson in terms
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Speaker 2: of like enough is enough?
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Speaker 3: You know, which is valid?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, call me a crazy man. I don't think
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Speaker 1: Ryan is going.
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Speaker 2: To pursue this to the degree of it going to court.
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Speaker 2: I think Ryan, and this is no shade Ryan. What
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Speaker 2: he did to me is working in the sense of
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Speaker 2: Tamar Judge apologized twice, and that's why that's rare.
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Speaker 3: Twice. Yeah, that's so rare. Yeah. I think Carlos, the
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Speaker 3: point that you made earlier about sort of the climate
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Speaker 3: that we're in and sort of is there a seal
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Speaker 3: on sort of what I would put under the category
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Speaker 3: of like villainous behavior on reality TV that I think
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Speaker 3: camera's so good at. I think the line is sort
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Speaker 3: of moving in terms of like what people like will tolerate.
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Speaker 3: And I also think that there's this tension between what
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Speaker 3: people will accept in a reality show environment and in
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Speaker 3: real life and those are not Those are two very
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Speaker 3: different scenarios and setups and environments. But like, I think
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Speaker 3: some people are conflating some of that and I'm not
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Speaker 3: defending everything, and I'm not going to defend a lot
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Speaker 3: of stuff that's happened on the show this season, but
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Speaker 3: it's been a great season and like that's sort of
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Speaker 3: how the game is played. And so I think that
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Speaker 3: like there's this weird environment online, especially where there's sort
16:45
Speaker 3: of like this moralizing of reality TV, which is like,
16:48
Speaker 3: well that's not okay, you know, and like that's that's
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Speaker 3: that's bad, and it's like, well, if you want all
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Speaker 3: good behavior on reality TV, then like what, then good
16:57
Speaker 3: luck watching that show, you know what I mean, Like
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Speaker 3: have fun that shows That's not the show that I
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Speaker 3: want to watch. And you know, all of these people
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Speaker 3: know that when they sign up for this, they're really
17:07
Speaker 3: opening themselves up to a lot, not just their lives,
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Speaker 3: but just any other things that come in with that.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know, like I it's such
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Speaker 3: a hard thing, but I air on the side of
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Speaker 3: like I'm not calling for people to be fired because
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Speaker 3: they're exhibiting bad behavior on the show. Tamar's clearly in
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Speaker 3: the mindset to apologize and the reunions coming up, and
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Speaker 3: I think they all know the unions coming up, right,
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Speaker 3: they all they are all very hyper aware of that,
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Speaker 3: and I have been saying I need Tamar to come
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Speaker 3: into this reunion apologizing for some stuff and owning some
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Speaker 3: stuff because we need some We need her to show
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Speaker 3: a little bit of a contrition, and I think she's
17:46
Speaker 3: already showing that, and so that kind of actually gives
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Speaker 3: me hope that we will see an apologetic and more
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Speaker 3: vulnerable Tamera. But maybe that's just what we're thinking. But
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Speaker 3: I think your point that she should too apologies over this.
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Speaker 3: She's down, she's down to kind of have the tail
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Speaker 3: with in her legs a little.
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Speaker 1: Bit, oh for sure. For sure, for sure.
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Speaker 2: And listen, I think it shows you, guys that Tamarra
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Speaker 2: isn't delusional to the point where she's like, efit whatever
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Speaker 2: I said. What I said, because a lot of reality
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Speaker 2: stars are. I do agree with you in the sense
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Speaker 2: of when it comes to Tamara Judge being fired, like
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Speaker 2: stop it, she's great TV.
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Speaker 1: Tamar Judge does not deserve to be fired.
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Speaker 2: Now listen, if you want to hold her accountable, fine,
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Speaker 2: that's what we like to see. But the idea of
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Speaker 2: this woman being fired for saying I'll land this stuff,
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Speaker 2: then fire the whole fucking cast of like every reality
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Speaker 2: show no to man because everybody says the wildest things,
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Speaker 2: and it doesn't mean that they can't be in a
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Speaker 2: position to say, Okay, I could do better, and I
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Speaker 2: want the world to know that. Again, I don't think Ryan,
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Speaker 2: I don't see him going far with it.
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Speaker 1: I think he wanted Tamar to know, like, be before.
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Speaker 2: You continue, yeah, because that's the difference before you continue
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Speaker 2: to proceed down this road saying more outland as shit,
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Speaker 2: let me stop this now, And that's why a lot
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Speaker 2: of that period yeah, to let you know and I'm
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Speaker 2: serious and Tamra, I do believe after they takee the reunion,
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Speaker 2: which allegedly is happening this week, I don't think Tamar
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Speaker 2: is ever going to open her mouth and say anything
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Speaker 2: about Ryan Ebergen, which.
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Speaker 3: Is probably wise. And the thing. The last thing I'll
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Speaker 3: say about sort of how Tamra is handling the season.
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Speaker 3: I think that she went in reading the fan base
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Speaker 3: in one way and it was kind of ended up
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Speaker 3: kind of ended up being a misread. And then I
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Speaker 3: also think that there is even though I don't agree,
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Speaker 3: there is something to be said about losing too much
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Speaker 3: of the audience, Like I think a lot of the
19:51
Speaker 3: audience is so down on Tamra and they're so on
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Speaker 3: the Tamra hate train because of how she's acting, and
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Speaker 3: that's just a dangerous game to play. Like, you know,
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Speaker 3: I think you can always win a large portion of
20:06
Speaker 3: the audience back because the audience is so we're such
20:08
Speaker 3: a fickle viewership. But you know, most people that are
20:12
Speaker 3: that talk about this show that I've seen, really are
20:15
Speaker 3: dunking on her in a major way. And I'm just
20:19
Speaker 3: curious how she how much of that she can just
20:21
Speaker 3: pull back and how quickly.
20:24
Speaker 2: Child we are just getting started. This is reality with
20:39
Speaker 2: the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into
20:42
Speaker 2: the show. Yeah and listen. The other person who's suffering
20:47
Speaker 2: through a lot of backlash and craziness online is Alexis Blino,
20:52
Speaker 2: and I want to get your thoughts on this gift
20:53
Speaker 2: sent John.
20:54
Speaker 1: So.
20:54
Speaker 2: Alexis Blino recently posted a message on her social media.
21:01
Speaker 2: I'm going to paraphrase, but she has allege that you know,
21:07
Speaker 2: we're not seeing everything. The show is being edited to
21:11
Speaker 2: pay her and not the best light. That the truth
21:15
Speaker 2: will come out soon and she's going to do it
21:18
Speaker 2: very soon. This is her career and she takes it
21:22
Speaker 2: very seriously and she can't wait for the truth to
21:25
Speaker 2: come out. What were your thoughts on that based on
21:31
Speaker 2: that particular post.
21:33
Speaker 3: In some way, you know, I do believe that there's
21:37
Speaker 3: probably some stuff that was not related to John and
21:41
Speaker 3: Shannon that's left on the cutting room floor. I believe
21:43
Speaker 3: that they film a lot on this show. But Emily
21:48
Speaker 3: and Gina did an interview last week after she had
21:51
Speaker 3: posted that, and they were basically like, listen, We've been
21:55
Speaker 3: on the show for six years and we have never
21:57
Speaker 3: once complained about the edit. Never once. We've never called
22:01
Speaker 3: production about some of we weren't happy with seeing on
22:03
Speaker 3: the show. And to me, that implied that Lexus has
22:06
Speaker 3: done that. And I've actually heard that she has.
22:08
Speaker 1: And you heard that she contacts the production.
22:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have heard that.
22:14
Speaker 1: To say, what.
22:16
Speaker 3: Though, like, like to do I think she was doing
22:18
Speaker 3: some of that's complaining behind the scenes basically, and like
22:22
Speaker 3: she wasn't happy with what she was seeing on the show.
22:24
Speaker 3: And I think now she's taken in public and I
22:26
Speaker 3: think she's deleted that post since then, and she hasn't
22:28
Speaker 3: posted any of her stuff on Instagram work because she
22:31
Speaker 3: said in this post, like I'm going to go on
22:32
Speaker 3: Instagram after every single episode and show you what you
22:35
Speaker 3: didn't see starting with episode one, and she hasn't done
22:37
Speaker 3: any of that, so I kind of think that someone's
22:41
Speaker 3: gotten to her and being like Okay, well, like if
22:44
Speaker 3: you do that, like you're breaking your contract or something
22:46
Speaker 3: like that, Like that's all allegedly speculation, but it's like,
22:50
Speaker 3: I think the post went away, and I don't know.
22:53
Speaker 3: I think if you're blaming the edit, if you're blaming production,
22:56
Speaker 3: that's a dangerous game to play. And I also I'm like,
22:58
Speaker 3: nobody put these words into your mouth. Nobody did these
23:01
Speaker 3: things for you that we're seeing with our own eyes
23:03
Speaker 3: on this show, So like, yeah, maybe it's like hyper
23:07
Speaker 3: concentrated because of how it's edited, but you did say
23:10
Speaker 3: all these things, you did act this way, and I
23:12
Speaker 3: think we would still all feel the same way about
23:14
Speaker 3: it even if it was like edited differently.
23:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I also think, to listen, it's hard to
23:18
Speaker 2: be a friend of to the show because you don't
23:21
Speaker 2: you're not allowed to show your full life, right. I
23:27
Speaker 2: like Alexis. I think she's great TV. I think she
23:29
Speaker 2: brought so much to this season. I would love to
23:32
Speaker 2: see the full life run. Yeah, and I love that.
23:35
Speaker 2: The thing is this, it's not easy to be a
23:37
Speaker 2: lightning rod. It just isn't.
23:40
Speaker 1: Now.
23:40
Speaker 2: I do understand the deficit that Alexis may be feeling,
23:43
Speaker 2: because at least you get to say to yourself, I'm
23:46
Speaker 2: a housewife and you know, they showed me my children
23:50
Speaker 2: or something.
23:50
Speaker 1: Like that, Like there's other things you can see.
23:53
Speaker 2: I think because Alexis is a friend of she's limited
23:56
Speaker 2: to only showing her and Shannon's dynamic when it comes
24:01
Speaker 2: to John Jansen and her defending John. So again, I
24:05
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on with the editing. I'm not
24:08
Speaker 2: producing that show, but my personal feeling is I just
24:15
Speaker 2: believe that unfortunately, when you are a friend to the show,
24:20
Speaker 2: you are limited in your role. And ask Marlow Hampton,
24:24
Speaker 2: who has been the longest running friend up in history
24:27
Speaker 2: next to fab Resnik, that when you are a friend
24:30
Speaker 2: of to the show, you don't get out of airtime
24:34
Speaker 2: and you are definitely driving one narrow storyline. And I
24:39
Speaker 2: don't want to see Alexis put herself in a position
24:42
Speaker 2: to where she makes enemies with production because at the
24:49
Speaker 2: end of the day, that's not going to help you
24:53
Speaker 2: come back to the show and I want her to
24:55
Speaker 2: come back to the show full time.
24:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I do like that she's sort of like,
25:01
Speaker 3: I mean, the audience does not like her. At a
25:03
Speaker 3: lot of people the show can't stand her, but I
25:05
Speaker 3: almost am like, I think that's also one of the
25:07
Speaker 3: issues of the post is like I almost wish that
25:09
Speaker 3: she would sort of just stand ten toes down on
25:12
Speaker 3: like getting the villain at it and be like, all right,
25:14
Speaker 3: come on, bitches, like like this is me, you know
25:16
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like I almost would embrace that exactly.
25:20
Speaker 3: It's like this, at this point, we're so har into
25:22
Speaker 3: the season. It's clearly going to be a one note,
25:25
Speaker 3: you know, representation of you, and so maybe just lean
25:28
Speaker 3: into it to be honest and then come into the
25:30
Speaker 3: reunion and say your piece there, you know. And yeah,
25:35
Speaker 3: and I've said this throughout the season, is like I'm
25:38
Speaker 3: surprised that we haven't gotten more about Heather and Alexis
25:42
Speaker 3: sort of bonding over both having trans children and kind
25:46
Speaker 3: of the way that they've bonded over that, and like
25:50
Speaker 3: it's how it's opened up Alexis's world and what like
25:54
Speaker 3: whatever other things that would come out of that. But
25:56
Speaker 3: it almost feels like she maybe doesn't have permission to
25:59
Speaker 3: talk about that, either from her child or from her ex,
26:02
Speaker 3: because she talks around that a lot. You know, when
26:04
Speaker 3: when the when Heather's different initiatives around the LGBT community
26:08
Speaker 3: have come up, we see Alexus confessionals, but they're very generalized,
26:12
Speaker 3: you know. She's always like everybody in my family deserves
26:15
Speaker 3: to be themselves and things like that. So to me,
26:18
Speaker 3: that implies that maybe she's not permitted to be talking
26:21
Speaker 3: about more specifics in that story of hers, which also
26:26
Speaker 3: doesn't really help in terms of maybe giving her a
26:28
Speaker 3: more well rounded representation on the show because to me,
26:31
Speaker 3: like when when I heard that she was joining, I
26:33
Speaker 3: was like, Oh, that's going to be her entry way.
26:34
Speaker 3: You know, it's gonna be you know, and and and
26:38
Speaker 3: so that also I think hasn't helped her case either.
26:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and listen, obviously she has to show up
26:47
Speaker 2: to the reunion, and my advice to alexis, if you're listening,
26:52
Speaker 2: is use the reunion as your opportunity to vent your
26:56
Speaker 2: frustrations totally. You know what I mean, Like you can say,
27:00
Speaker 2: if I was hurt, I would say, look, I love
27:03
Speaker 2: this show. I was part of it for x amount
27:05
Speaker 2: of seasons as a full time housewife. I came back
27:08
Speaker 2: as a friend. I now know better that it's best
27:11
Speaker 2: to be a full time housewife because you're able to
27:14
Speaker 2: get more of me than this very narrow storyline.
27:18
Speaker 1: But I don't, you know, regret doing it.
27:21
Speaker 2: If given the opportunity, I would love to show the
27:24
Speaker 2: audience the full side of me. And if you hite
27:27
Speaker 2: me next season after I may become a full time housewife,
27:31
Speaker 2: then I have no one to blame by myself, do you.
27:34
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?
27:34
Speaker 2: Like, I think there's ways to like address it, but
27:38
Speaker 2: also just.
27:38
Speaker 3: Don't not put it on everybody else.
27:42
Speaker 1: Yeah.
27:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the healthiest way to get your point across.
27:48
Speaker 2: Although I'm saying that after this comedian named Joel Kim Booster.
27:54
Speaker 2: Uh huh, speaking of getting your point across, Gibson, I
28:00
Speaker 2: saw your tweet. First of all, you're the best on Twitter.
28:02
Speaker 2: Please follow him. He's he's hilarious because your cat, the
28:06
Speaker 2: fact that you you retweeted it and put like like.
28:12
Speaker 3: Well, first it was like a Sunday afternoon, and I
28:15
Speaker 3: was like, am I reading this correctly? Is this really
28:17
Speaker 3: happening right now? You know?
28:18
Speaker 1: It was? It was? It was it was. It was
28:22
Speaker 1: a lot so rain drops.
28:24
Speaker 2: In case you haven't heard, a comedian by the name
28:28
Speaker 2: of Joel Kim Booster called Shanna Badoor and I quote
28:33
Speaker 2: a pathetic drunk so allegedly.
28:38
Speaker 1: Okay, John, this is Joel. Oh, it's Joel. I'm sorry, Joel.
28:44
Speaker 1: John Jason is not about you.
28:46
Speaker 2: Okay, for one, I'm say for what, it's not about John,
28:51
Speaker 2: It's about Joel.
28:52
Speaker 1: Okay.
28:53
Speaker 2: So he is hosting this dating show that is going
28:59
Speaker 2: to be on Bravo. It's a Bravo peacock. I think
29:02
Speaker 2: it's peacock, right.
29:03
Speaker 3: It might be peacock. I think maybe peacock.
29:05
Speaker 1: Yes, it's with count I.
29:06
Speaker 3: Think it might be called Love Hotel.
29:08
Speaker 2: Apparently, Love Hotel with Countess Lewinne, Giselle Bryant, Ashley Darby
29:14
Speaker 2: and Shannon and Shannon. Okay, so he is the host
29:19
Speaker 2: of this dating show. Like Gibson said on a Sunday,
29:24
Speaker 2: he decided to tweet no even in his stories some
29:31
Speaker 2: very not some nice things about Shannon Badore and I
29:38
Speaker 2: want to be able to read the now deleted tweet. Okay,
29:45
Speaker 2: so he wrote an I quote let me pull it
29:48
Speaker 2: up for you guys, because.
29:50
Speaker 1: It's a doozy, he wrote.
29:54
Speaker 2: Just because you're a pathetic drunk on a reality television
30:00
Speaker 2: show best known for a string of failed relationships and
30:05
Speaker 2: a dui does not make you a star and does
30:10
Speaker 2: not get you the license to treat the people you
30:13
Speaker 2: work with like they are subhuman.
30:17
Speaker 1: Period. They will make me delete this.
30:22
Speaker 2: But DM me if you like to see some videos.
30:29
Speaker 1: Okay, I was so disturbed by this. I don't know Joel.
30:35
Speaker 2: I've seen him on Watching Happens Live. He's funny, you know.
30:42
Speaker 2: I enjoy watching him be a guest on Watch It
30:45
Speaker 2: Happens Live. I don't know much about him. I would
30:49
Speaker 2: have to say that is so unprofessional to vent your
30:54
Speaker 2: frustrations for the world to see. When you have producers,
30:59
Speaker 2: you have production companies, there's a there's an HR department
31:04
Speaker 2: like there there, there's there's tons of people that you
31:07
Speaker 2: can go to when when a problem arise on set,
31:11
Speaker 2: right or when you feel like somebody's being mistreated. There's
31:15
Speaker 2: proper protocols put in place for you to do that.
31:19
Speaker 2: And again, maybe he did it, I don't know, and
31:21
Speaker 2: maybe he felt like I've done it and it fell
31:23
Speaker 2: on deaf ears.
31:24
Speaker 1: We we don't know.
31:26
Speaker 2: But to run the gamut of posting this listen, for
31:31
Speaker 2: Shannon to have to be publicly and bears in this way,
31:39
Speaker 2: I don't like.
31:41
Speaker 1: I also don't like.
31:42
Speaker 2: It if Shannon is mistreating people on set, because the
31:46
Speaker 2: people on set are the the muscle behind production. And
31:53
Speaker 2: you know, listen, I'm a producer, right, so I get it,
31:55
Speaker 2: Like we're the muscle on production. We work very hard
31:57
Speaker 2: and at the end of the day, we want to
31:59
Speaker 2: be treated fairly like the stars on our shows. Right,
32:02
Speaker 2: So if Shannon is mistreating people, I don't like that either, Right,
32:08
Speaker 2: But I'm curious if what you think, like, if Shannon
32:15
Speaker 2: has mistreated somebody on set and treated people like their shit,
32:20
Speaker 2: do you go to social media to blast her and
32:25
Speaker 2: and feel like that's going to be the best response
32:28
Speaker 2: to that?
32:29
Speaker 3: I mean not if you want another job the network,
32:32
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, I was like, that's
32:34
Speaker 3: what was honestly most shocking to me, because here's the thing.
32:37
Speaker 3: Two things can be true. One can be I mean,
32:40
Speaker 3: he clearly, very he very clearly witnessed bad behavior from Shannon,
32:45
Speaker 3: Like he didn't just do this making something up. He's
32:48
Speaker 3: witnessed things during the shoot. I think it was prompted
32:51
Speaker 3: by apparently at the rap party for it she treated
32:54
Speaker 3: his friend badly. And I don't know if this woman's
32:56
Speaker 3: associated with the show or not, but he posted like
32:58
Speaker 3: a photo with her and he was like, I love
32:59
Speaker 3: you so much and I forget to leave it all those.
33:02
Speaker 2: Yes, So he posted a picture of a beautiful black
33:06
Speaker 2: woman and he tagged her and.
33:10
Speaker 1: He said what Gibson John.
33:12
Speaker 2: Said, but he also said who I would go to
33:15
Speaker 2: war four and then totally and then honey, I clicked
33:19
Speaker 2: on her page and it's private, and then I'm like,
33:22
Speaker 2: is she a producer?
33:24
Speaker 1: Is she just a friend of yours? That's what's so
33:26
Speaker 1: confusing about it.
33:27
Speaker 2: But it appeared that he allegedly was defending this woman.
33:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, it almost felt like there was. It almost felt
33:36
Speaker 3: that there was like a straw that broke the camel's
33:38
Speaker 3: back during this rap party, after he had witnessed other
33:40
Speaker 3: things from Shannon throughout the filming, and then he kind
33:43
Speaker 3: of like instinctive. It doesn't feel like he went to
33:47
Speaker 3: anywhere else, at least based on this one incident, because
33:49
Speaker 3: it really feels like very impromptu, very off the cuff,
33:52
Speaker 3: like he just sort of like he was like they'll
33:55
Speaker 3: probably make me delete this by the morning. Basically the
33:57
Speaker 3: kind of thing like that's what it felt like to me.
33:59
Speaker 3: And again, two things can be true. She can act
34:01
Speaker 3: have acted badly, but this can also be extremely unprofessional
34:04
Speaker 3: and shocking that he took it to this place. I mean,
34:08
Speaker 3: how much should we discuss when Jersey was airing, when
34:11
Speaker 3: Louis says I hope Margaret's son suffers, how much did
34:14
Speaker 3: we talk about how fucked up that was? And now
34:17
Speaker 3: here he this guy who's hosting the show, hosting a
34:21
Speaker 3: show with housewives on it, saying that he hopes that
34:24
Speaker 3: one of them suffers. I mean, that's that's intense. Then
34:28
Speaker 3: he says he said something along the lines of like
34:31
Speaker 3: I get what John Jansen went through. Poor guy. Like
34:34
Speaker 3: he said something like that too, Like it's just really
34:36
Speaker 3: strong wording. And I also think he's listen if he's
34:43
Speaker 3: reported this, he's reported this, but like he also presented
34:46
Speaker 3: it in such a vague way in terms of what
34:48
Speaker 3: he observed off of Shannon. So it's like it leaves
34:51
Speaker 3: us to sort of fill in the blanks. And if
34:53
Speaker 3: we don't have any specifics about like something really intense
34:56
Speaker 3: that she did badly then we're kind of going to
34:58
Speaker 3: take it with a grain of salt, and like, dude,
35:00
Speaker 3: like you're airing this out in public to a bunch
35:03
Speaker 3: of people who are already sort of right now as
35:07
Speaker 3: the season is airing, are very primed to defend Shannon Badoor.
35:10
Speaker 1: You know.
35:10
Speaker 3: It's like he's talking to a fan base that is
35:13
Speaker 3: sort of like has the pitchforks ready for Shannon at
35:16
Speaker 3: this point? You know? And so it was just so
35:18
Speaker 3: ill advised. I think in so many ways it really was.
35:21
Speaker 1: Oh no, it was.
35:22
Speaker 2: And listen, it's one of those things where listen, I
35:26
Speaker 2: have my own production company, I hire host I hire
35:29
Speaker 2: reality stars. There to me just isn't a place for
35:36
Speaker 2: anyone to run to an Instagram story and have a
35:43
Speaker 2: moment where you are calling someone out and then I mean, listen,
35:50
Speaker 2: some much sobriety to me is just not something to
35:53
Speaker 2: make fun of, right, Like you could think what you
35:56
Speaker 2: want about Shannon and and listen, she signed up to
35:59
Speaker 2: do to do the show, so obviously she is susceptible
36:05
Speaker 2: to to to feedback. Yeah you know what I mean,
36:08
Speaker 2: Like that's fine, but too yeah, exactly, But to say
36:14
Speaker 2: things like you're pathetic drunk like, that's not something you
36:18
Speaker 2: say to somebody that has a drinking problem allegedly or
36:21
Speaker 2: who has been in a dui. And you're right, he said,
36:26
Speaker 2: you know, well, let's just say I can't imagine what
36:29
Speaker 2: John Jansen went through.
36:30
Speaker 1: Poor guy.
36:31
Speaker 2: Well that was quick anyway, don't regret it. Hope you
36:33
Speaker 2: screenshot it. Hope she suffers. And it's like you are
36:38
Speaker 2: just double downing on Like I was so shocked by this.
36:42
Speaker 3: Also, Carlos is the offer for people to DM him
36:45
Speaker 3: and he can send them videos. That was That's crazy,
36:49
Speaker 3: Like that's just I don't know. I just don't agree
36:52
Speaker 3: with this at all. And like again, I'm not excusing
36:54
Speaker 3: the bad behavior. I neither mind that something happened. Yeah,
36:58
Speaker 3: and like I really don't love the idea that she's
37:01
Speaker 3: mistreating people on a set. But think about, like again,
37:07
Speaker 3: it's the host of the show. Think about how much
37:10
Speaker 3: behavior Andy has witnessed over the past two decades. Has
37:14
Speaker 3: he ever done anything like this? Like, I mean, I've
37:17
Speaker 3: never seen a host to anything like this ever, I
37:19
Speaker 3: don't think and like, oh, this can't be the first
37:22
Speaker 3: time that a house so I was acted like a
37:24
Speaker 3: diva allegedly, you know, it's like, I don't know unless
37:28
Speaker 3: it's unless it comes out that it's something that's like
37:31
Speaker 3: really disturbing and really kind of crossing a huge line.
37:35
Speaker 3: Until then, we just don't really know. And and this
37:37
Speaker 3: is the most that we know. And I think my
37:40
Speaker 3: other thing that I really took issue with and I
37:43
Speaker 3: tweeted this was like at the beginning of that statement
37:46
Speaker 3: when he's like, you're just a reality star who's had
37:48
Speaker 3: a dui and known for having a drinking problem or
37:50
Speaker 3: whatever the wording was. To me, that just reeks of
37:55
Speaker 3: like disrespect for what she does for a living, which
37:58
Speaker 3: is being a career reality star who opens up about
38:00
Speaker 3: her life and has been doing so for a decade.
38:03
Speaker 3: And he was like the way that he was dunking
38:06
Speaker 3: on that on her just like you know the genre
38:09
Speaker 3: and like what she does for living, And here he
38:11
Speaker 3: is hosting a show about housewives and he comes to
38:14
Speaker 3: Watcher Happens Live all the time and commentates on it.
38:16
Speaker 3: It's like, if you're if you have that little respect
38:18
Speaker 3: for what she does for a living, then what are
38:21
Speaker 3: you doing hosting the show?
38:23
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, you can't look down on the very
38:26
Speaker 2: people that you're supposed to be helping find.
38:28
Speaker 3: Love and you're making money on Yeah.
38:32
Speaker 2: And your on watch What Happens Live because you love
38:35
Speaker 2: reality TV. And like I said, I've seen him talk
38:37
Speaker 2: about the show, so we know that he's a Housewives fan.
38:40
Speaker 2: And again I don't know much about the guy. Like
38:43
Speaker 2: I said, I think he's funny, he's obviously talented.
38:45
Speaker 1: He and listen.
38:49
Speaker 2: I would have hope that by today there would have
38:52
Speaker 2: been a retraction of like I had a moment I apologize,
38:56
Speaker 2: like pull a tamer, Josh, like I this was this
38:59
Speaker 2: was bad, Like I can admit with things are bad,
39:02
Speaker 2: but you're right. Look at the end of the day,
39:05
Speaker 2: if if Shannon did something horrible to a crew member,
39:09
Speaker 2: then yes she should be held accountable. And trust me,
39:12
Speaker 2: I am all about that. I just always believe when
39:17
Speaker 2: you have protocols in place, there's there's there's there's various
39:21
Speaker 2: steps that you go through first before.
39:25
Speaker 1: You go to Instagram stories.
39:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of just feels like he wanted to
39:29
Speaker 3: be the story. He wanted to be a housewife in
39:31
Speaker 3: some ways, you know what I mean.
39:32
Speaker 2: That's of what it feels like, Oh, drop the Mike
39:35
Speaker 2: gifts and John's I be drop the fucking Mike, that
39:38
Speaker 2: was epic, So gifts and John's are you available to
39:42
Speaker 2: the host Love Hotel?
39:44
Speaker 3: And just you know, I am, uh the schedules open.
39:52
Speaker 1: Well, listen, we will see what happens with this.
39:55
Speaker 2: But a lot has happened OC for the past couple
39:58
Speaker 2: of days and I'm so happy that gives John's, who's
40:01
Speaker 2: very busy honey, took time out of his schedule today
40:04
Speaker 2: to recap all of this and listen. We will have
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Speaker 2: more updates as this thing unfolds. And like I said,
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Speaker 2: allegedly the Real Housewives of Bush County reunion is taping
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Speaker 2: this week. So Gibson Johns, my last question for you,
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Speaker 2: what do you hope to see on this upcoming reunion taping?
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Speaker 3: I really the thing that I really want to see
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Speaker 3: is Tamera changing her tune just a little bit, not
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Speaker 3: in a way that's inauthentic, more in a way that
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Speaker 3: shows that she's reflected on what went down during filming,
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Speaker 3: having some sort of regret over how she acted maybe
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Speaker 3: and if she doesn't believe it, then I don't want
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Speaker 3: to see that. But I do think that like for
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Speaker 3: to wipe the slate somewhat clean for next season for herself, honestly,
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Speaker 3: it's the smartest thing to do, which is go in
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Speaker 3: apologize for something, you know, show some contrition. That's really
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Speaker 3: because I really like Tamara. I think that she is
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Speaker 3: such an asset for the show. She's brought it back,
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Speaker 3: she helped bring it back from the dead. But I
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Speaker 3: don't want her to burn out because she went too
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Speaker 3: hard and didn't show any didn't didn't kind of balance
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Speaker 3: it out with other behavior, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 3: like that sort of for the health of the show
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Speaker 3: and for you know, her career too. Like I think
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Speaker 3: it's the smartest thing to do. So that's that's the
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Speaker 3: top line list for what I want to see on
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Speaker 3: the OC reunion.
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Speaker 1: I no agree agree.
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Speaker 2: I want Tamara to be able to, of course hold
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Speaker 2: herself accountable for some of the things that we have seen,
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Speaker 2: and I think she will, but I also want her
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Speaker 2: to at least give the audience some insight in terms
41:41
Speaker 2: of why she went so hard as Shannon, because we
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Speaker 2: don't see everything, and I will like to sort of
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Speaker 2: have her explain to us the reasoning behind the sort
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Speaker 2: of you know, actions that she gave in Shannon's direct
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Speaker 2: So I agree with everything you said, and I just
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Speaker 2: want Tamra to be on.
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Speaker 1: The show forever and listen.
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna fire her or anything, and
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Speaker 2: she doesn't deserve to be. But I definitely think you know,
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Speaker 2: this season is great too because in some word way
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Speaker 2: they're getting along.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's it's interesting.
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Speaker 2: Because they can fight each other verbally, it's still like
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Speaker 2: hang out with each other.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I love about it.
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Speaker 3: It's like oldcorne in that way.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, okay, we had an argument, like but it's
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Speaker 2: not that deep to wear.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be the same room.
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Speaker 3: With you, so we'll still break.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so that's my hope for the reunion.
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Speaker 2: So Tama you're listening, baby, just give me and gifts
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Speaker 2: in that and I promise you, sweetheart, you will be fine.
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Speaker 3: We just need too, We just need two words i'm.
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Speaker 2: Sorry and and don't do the quintessential housewife apology.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: If no, it's just i'm sorry. Is a two words
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Speaker 3: sentence period, that's it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, all right, Well, thank you Gibson.
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Speaker 2: Let the world know they can find you, follow you
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Speaker 2: and support your podcast as well.
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Speaker 3: Of course, Carlo is always a pleasure. Thank you so
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Speaker 3: much for having me. Love our chats. My podcast is
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Speaker 3: called Gabbing with Gibb. It is two to three times
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Speaker 3: a week Tuesday's Fridays, So night's a bonus episode, usually
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Speaker 3: an interview with the housewife or somebody on Bravo and
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Speaker 3: then a discussion episode like this Carlos has been on.
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Speaker 1: This week.
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Speaker 3: We have Angik and doctor Wendy Oseepho on, so we
43:34
Speaker 3: have a double duty interview this week, which is great.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, just find me where you get your podcast
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Speaker 3: rever listening to this great show. So thanks for having
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Speaker 3: me again.
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Speaker 1: Yes, no, thanks Gibbs and I'll see you some love.
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