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The Rita Panahi Show | 16 July · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scoring lives Austrodia. This is the Wider Panalty Show.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show.
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Speaker 3: Coming up tonight was premier just into Alan the victim
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Speaker 3: of a sexist attack by volunteer fire fighters. There's a
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Speaker 3: twist to that story. I'll discuss that surely with Adam Crichton.
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Speaker 3: The Great Douglas Murray will join me shortly and he'll
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Speaker 3: weigh in on King Charles's climate activism, among other things.
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Speaker 3: John Heindereker will have the latest from the US, and
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Speaker 3: later in the hour I'll speak to a member of
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Speaker 3: the LGBTQIA community, a lesbian who is taking on the
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Speaker 3: transactivists and winning. And we have an extra long edition
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Speaker 3: of Lefties Losing It for you tonight and it stars
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Speaker 3: not one, not two, but three ladies of the view.
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Speaker 4: I believe you are pointing the finger at the wrong
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Speaker 4: person when you say Democrats.
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Speaker 3: But first fire fighters from across regional Victoria gathered in
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Speaker 3: Melbourne's West to protest the Allen Government's emergency Services levy,
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Speaker 3: which will see many farmers face bills totaling tens of
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Speaker 3: thousands of dollars, despite many of them being CFA volunteers.
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Speaker 2: Now, one of the fire trucks at.
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Speaker 3: Yesterday's rally, which was attended by Opposition leader.
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Speaker 2: Brad Batten, had ditch the Bitch.
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Speaker 3: Written on the side and apparent reference to Premier just
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Speaker 3: Into Allen, which has been labeled as misogynistic, a sexist
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Speaker 3: attacked and Labor has used that to attack Brad Batton
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Speaker 3: because he appeared at the rally and they've used it
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Speaker 3: to lecture the Liberal Party about its so called deep
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Speaker 3: rooted issues with women. But the truck that featured that
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Speaker 3: slogan was in fact manned by an all female team.
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Speaker 3: Here's what one of them had to say.
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Speaker 5: That tanker was manned by and all female crew. The
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Speaker 5: female crew that was honored a third generation farmers. The
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Speaker 5: decision was made by all of the females that were
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Speaker 5: on that tanker to write that.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this, as senior fellow
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Speaker 3: and chief economists at the Institute of Public Affairs Adam
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Speaker 3: Cricht and Adam is it okay if it's women using
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Speaker 3: the b word against the premieres are still sexist?
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Speaker 2: Where do we stand on this?
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Speaker 6: Well, look, it's I mean, it's probably ridiculous to say
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Speaker 6: that their sexist storm, misogynistic because they are women themselves.
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Speaker 7: I mean, look, it was a.
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Speaker 6: Crude remark, it was a crash remark. But these people
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Speaker 6: are justifiably angry.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they've.
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Speaker 6: Basically had their tax bill tripled. I mean, the total
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Speaker 6: revenue from the emergency services levey last year was roughly
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Speaker 6: five hundred million. This financial year one point five billion,
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Speaker 6: and so that's basically a tripling for all these people,
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Speaker 6: No wonder they are furious.
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Speaker 2: So you know, the Labor Party.
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Speaker 6: Is trying to use this as a distraction from the
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Speaker 6: fundamental issue, which is increased tax fiscal recklessness, and they're
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Speaker 6: trying to smear the opposition leader as a sexist. But
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Speaker 6: it's just totally ridiculous, and as if they're really upset anywhere.
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Speaker 6: I mean, this language is not it's not that extreme.
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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, if you go to the movies,
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Speaker 6: you watch TV, you see a lot worse than that.
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Speaker 2: You do see a lot worse than that.
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Speaker 3: But we saw how much mile Leach they got from
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Speaker 3: Ditch the Witch and the fact that Tony Abbott was
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Speaker 3: at that rally and that sign was somewhere in the background.
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Speaker 3: So I think the Labor Party here in Victoria seeing
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Speaker 3: an opportunity. I can see the ad campaigns coming up,
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Speaker 3: but I'm not sure if they want to publicize this
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Speaker 3: particular issue, because to be upsetting volunteer firefighters, to be
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Speaker 3: upsetting our farmers whilst they're suffering this terrible drought, it's
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Speaker 3: not an issue they're strong on.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, certainly that's true. And also the Liberal Party could
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Speaker 6: go and interview the women that actually wrote these these
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Speaker 6: supposedly sexist thing So no, I think that they should
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Speaker 6: stick there of it and it won't be as successful
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Speaker 6: as it was federally with turning over it.
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Speaker 3: And just finally on that, what about the allegation that
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Speaker 3: the Libs have a deep rooted women's problem.
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Speaker 2: You could make that argument.
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Speaker 3: We've seen the more redeeming scandal, a very different deep
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Speaker 3: seated women's problem than the one Labors are ALLEGI now.
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Speaker 6: Well, look, I wouldn't say that's a male female thing.
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Speaker 6: That's a personality thing. It's a problem with the political
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Speaker 6: party here. I mean, you know, frankly, if they can't
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Speaker 6: win the election next year, there must be the worst
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Speaker 6: opposition in the history of Australia. Basically because the Labor
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Speaker 6: government here is really hopeless. You know, we just talked
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Speaker 6: about one aspect of it with the tripling of the
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Speaker 6: Services levee, the Emergency Services levee.
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Speaker 2: But it's not just that. It's a whole range of things.
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Speaker 2: It's across the law.
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Speaker 6: You know, they really have to win, you know, for
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Speaker 6: all our sakes.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think it absolutely.
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Speaker 3: It's an indictment on the Victorian Libs that it's got
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Speaker 3: this far, the fact that they have been so uncompetitive,
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Speaker 3: even as we've had successive labor governments that.
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Speaker 2: Have failed almost across the board.
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Speaker 3: You look at the economic performance, you look at the
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Speaker 3: societal issues, you look at the craziness of six.
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Speaker 2: Lockdowns could go on. Now, let's check in on how
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Speaker 2: labor is.
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Speaker 3: Doing on its promise to reduce overall migration federal labor.
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Speaker 3: We now have the data for May twenty twenty five
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Speaker 3: and Australia recorded the highest level yet of net long
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Speaker 3: term and permanent arrivals for the month of May. Now,
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Speaker 3: while that isn't purely overseas migration, it is a strong
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Speaker 3: indicator of what's going on. Almost two million migrants from
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Speaker 3: overseas have moved to Australia since late twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 3: And when COVID nineteen restrictions were lifted, and that includes
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Speaker 3: a net gain of four hundred and forty six thousand
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Speaker 3: people through overseas migration in twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 2: Year financial year alone.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that is an astonishing change to the country.
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Speaker 2: How will that change the country?
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Speaker 7: Certainly is look.
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Speaker 6: I mean I had to check those figures because they're
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Speaker 6: just so extreme. And as you pointed out, the Prime
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Speaker 6: Minister did say earlier this year that the rate of
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Speaker 6: immigration would fall to two hundred and sixty thousand net
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Speaker 6: overseas migration. Well, we are on track at the current
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Speaker 6: rate for this calendar of five hundred and ninety thousand, okay,
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Speaker 6: and the figure for the financial year that just ended
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Speaker 6: was supposed to be three hundred and thirty five thousand
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Speaker 6: net overseas migration. We don't even have the figures yet
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Speaker 6: for June, but it's already twenty seven percent out two thousand,
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Speaker 6: more than the forecast of three hundred and thirty five. So,
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Speaker 6: I mean, it really is out of control. And to
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Speaker 6: answer your question, well, we're just going to get our
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Speaker 6: GDP per capita going backwards every quarter. I mean, it's
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Speaker 6: going to be bad for the government in the second
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Speaker 6: quarter of this year, I would say, I mean, we
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Speaker 6: just had the main figure. It's huge, it's the highest ever.
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Speaker 6: And you know when they work out GDP per capita,
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Speaker 6: obviously they just divide GDP by how many people are
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Speaker 6: in the country, and if you've got a lot more,
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Speaker 6: it's going to shrink.
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Speaker 2: So the impact is just going to be enormous.
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Speaker 3: I mean you look at the societal issues, but the
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Speaker 3: impact on infrastructure, the impacts on housing, on hospital waiting lists,
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Speaker 3: all sorts of areas.
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Speaker 6: Now, the link with rents is obviously very strong and direct.
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Speaker 6: I mean I went to a conference at Sydney last
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Speaker 6: week and there was an academic paper that showed a
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Speaker 6: very strong link with the level of immigration and the
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Speaker 6: rents in Sydney and Melbourne.
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Speaker 8: Which of course stands to reason.
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Speaker 2: But you know, it's not just the rents, as you.
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Speaker 6: Say, It's the infrastructure, it's the how's it gets social
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Speaker 6: cohesion too. I mean, most of these people are coming
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Speaker 6: from developing countries, you know, is that what we really want?
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Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean to be careful talking about.
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Speaker 3: That, well, you have to be careful talking about Ambesi
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Speaker 3: Bee because we are lucky to be an island nation,
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Speaker 3: and we can determine what is the ideal population for
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Speaker 3: this country and then set policies to achieve that.
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Speaker 2: Most countries can't do that.
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Speaker 3: They've got poorest borders, but we have got a control
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Speaker 3: of our borders and we should be able to have
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Speaker 3: a discussion without people losing their minds and screaming racism
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Speaker 3: and trying to silence people.
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Speaker 2: Adam Crichton, thank you so much for your time tonight.
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Speaker 8: Thanks Reder.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Douglas Murray, author of a number
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Speaker 3: of international best sellers, including his latest book on Democracies
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Speaker 3: and Death Cults, Israel and the Future of Civilization.
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Speaker 2: Douglas, let's start in.
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Speaker 3: The UK, where it's apparently islamophobic to accurately report on
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Speaker 3: Islamist terrorism such as the Manchester Arena bombing. Descriptions such
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Speaker 3: as a knife wielding man yelling Islamic slogans have led
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Speaker 3: to complaints launched by the Muslim Council of Britain's Medium
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Speaker 3: Monitoring Unit. I do wonder, Douglas, what is the impact
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Speaker 3: of these complaints.
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Speaker 2: There seem to be plenty of them.
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Speaker 3: And how does that impact how these stories are reported.
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Speaker 1: Well read? I mean, it impacts absolutely everything. It impacts
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Speaker 1: the ability of the British public to comprehend or understand reality.
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Speaker 1: There's a very good example of the consequences of these
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Speaker 1: kinds of silencing and intimidating techniques, which is basically that
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Speaker 1: anyone who writes in the British press about any issue
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Speaker 1: to do with Islamist terrorism will be will be criticized
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Speaker 1: by various of these bodies for spreading Islamophobia and so on,
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Speaker 1: so that you can't say what the bomber said. For instance,
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Speaker 1: if he said at Ali Akbar, you just got to say, oh,
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Speaker 1: he has said some words, and there are consequences for
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Speaker 1: this all the time. We just passed the twentieth annversary
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Speaker 1: of the seventh of July two thousand and five suicide
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Speaker 1: bombings in London, when four Islamist terrorists homegrown defonated suicide
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Speaker 1: belts suicide vests on three London underground trains and a
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Speaker 1: bus twenty years on the BBC's documentary and other documentaries
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Speaker 1: in fact about this, as my colleague Rod Little wrote
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Speaker 1: about in last week's Spectator, if you hadn't been alive
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Speaker 1: twenty years ago, or you knew nothing about those bombs.
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Speaker 1: You could easily have come away with the interpretation of
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Speaker 1: events that was basically, some people from Yorkshire inexplicably exploded
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Speaker 1: exploited devices and blew up and killed a lot of Londoners,
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Speaker 1: as if maybe the bombs just let themselves off, or
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Speaker 1: maybe it's just a problem with yorkshiremen. This is this
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Speaker 1: is the consequence of shuttering down free and open discussion
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Speaker 1: like this an accurate The consequence is the general public
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Speaker 1: will not have an accurate understanding of the reality that
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Speaker 1: we have been in and that we are.
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Speaker 3: In now, and so many in the media self censor anyway,
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Speaker 3: you don't need this complaints system just ideologically many of
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Speaker 3: them are reluctant to explain what is happening. So when
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Speaker 3: you put this on top of it, and the Muslim
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Speaker 3: Council of Britain's Media Monitoring unit is also criticizing works
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Speaker 3: of fiction Douglas TV dramas that might show a Muslim character,
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Speaker 3: for example, who doesn't want to wear a hejab, or
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Speaker 3: a Muslim character who drinks alcohol or is gay. That's
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Speaker 3: also that times attracting complaints.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, everything is going to attract complaints from a
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Speaker 1: professional complaints issuing unit. And that's what this unit of
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Speaker 1: the Muslim Britain, which consecutive British governments will not have
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Speaker 1: anything to do with because they regard them as being
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Speaker 1: too radical. This is what the MCB's Media Monitoring Unit does.
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Speaker 1: It just fires off endless, endless complaints in the hope
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Speaker 1: that it basically intimidates editors and writers and journalists from
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Speaker 1: saying accurately what they see with their own eyes. Don't
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Speaker 1: forget that there are consequences, other consequences to this, and
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Speaker 1: just one it's worth reminding people of, which is that
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Speaker 1: in Manchester some ten years ago, the police did a
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Speaker 1: training exercise for what would happen if a suicide bomber
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Speaker 1: went off, and they and the emergency services were criticized
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Speaker 1: because in the scenario practice for the ambulance cruise and
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Speaker 1: so on, the actor playing that the terrorists shouted al akba.
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Speaker 1: All the local police in Manchester had to apologize for this.
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Speaker 1: It was terrible to have done this. It was condemned
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Speaker 1: as islamophobic by all these monitoring watchdogs. And then it
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Speaker 1: turned out that the suicide bomb were at Manchester at
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Speaker 1: the Manchester Arena was an Islamist terrorist and he detonated
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Speaker 1: about nine months later. So this literal attempt to rewrite
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Speaker 1: reality has consequences that are real.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and this is another consequences of the climate that
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Speaker 3: has been created.
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Speaker 2: A twelve year old girl, Courtney.
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Speaker 3: Right, she was removed from her class, Douglas, separated from
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Speaker 3: other students and then sent home.
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Speaker 2: Her father was called to come and collect her.
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Speaker 7: Why.
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Speaker 3: Well, she had the audacity to wear a union jack
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Speaker 3: dress on a day where students were encouraged to wear
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Speaker 3: traditional cultural dress to celebrate the rich diversity.
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Speaker 2: Of our community.
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Speaker 3: Apparently that's highly offensive to be wearing a dress featuring
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Speaker 3: the union jacket. This is a straight a student, she's
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Speaker 3: not a trouble maker, but she was told by teachers
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Speaker 3: at Builton School in Rugby that her outfit was unacceptable.
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Speaker 2: She was removed from class.
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Speaker 3: And Douglas, I don't know, perhaps if she arrived in
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Speaker 3: a burka, they'd be quite happy with that.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's it's it's a tricky one, isn't it, reta
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Speaker 1: Because I mean, this is such a delicate era that
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Speaker 1: you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that if she'd have turned up in a
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Speaker 1: cultural clothing of another culture that somehow, because of today's
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Speaker 1: version of reality, you weren't allowed to do. She could
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Speaker 1: have been sent home for doing that. You could have
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Speaker 1: dressed up as a Native American and been sent home
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Speaker 1: for that. You could have been I mean, it's very
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Speaker 1: hard to know what you're allowed to do in these days.
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Speaker 1: If if you're allowed to dress up in the in
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Speaker 1: the in the in something representing your own culture, you
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Speaker 1: can be sent home. But if you're dressed up as
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Speaker 1: something representing another culture and it doesn't quite fit that day,
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Speaker 1: you can also be sent home. So it's quite hard.
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Speaker 1: It's not surprising that a child might tread on the
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Speaker 1: wrong tracks on this, because, after all, you know, who
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Speaker 1: knows what the rules are meant to be this these days,
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Speaker 1: other than as this case shows once again, you're allowed
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Speaker 1: to celebrate every culture other than your own if you're
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Speaker 1: in the West. If you're in the West, you can
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Speaker 1: allow ever somewhere your own culture, but you can only
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Speaker 1: celebrate the wonderful cultural diversity which everyone else brings.
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Speaker 2: Now to the US.
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Speaker 3: And you've written for The New York Post about Zora
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Speaker 3: and Mamdani's delusions of grandeur, there is a Man Douglas,
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Speaker 3: who is the front runner as we know, to be
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Speaker 3: the next mayor of New York City.
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Speaker 2: You think that would be a big enough role.
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Speaker 3: But his ambitions, his focus appears to be on international issues.
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Speaker 3: He says, it's all about New Yorkers, but he can't
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Speaker 3: help weigh in on foreign policy.
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Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. Zora Mamdani has announced that he would
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Speaker 1: have Benjamin sna who arrested is very prime minister arrested
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Speaker 1: if he were to set foot in New York. Benjamin FNR, who,
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Speaker 1: of course New York last year for the United Nations.
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Speaker 1: Most countries in the world, in fact, almost all countries
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Speaker 1: send representatives to the United Nations. It's one of the
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Speaker 1: i mean, one of the things about the UN being
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Speaker 1: in New York. Lots of world leaders come here. But
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Speaker 1: Bandami decided to single out the prime minister of the
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Speaker 1: Jewish state. But he's also in the past described the
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Speaker 1: prime minister of the world's biggest Hindu state as also
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Speaker 1: being a war criminal. And you know this, this is
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Speaker 1: very interesting to me because why would somebody of Frankly,
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Speaker 1: let's be honest about it. He's of a Muslim background,
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Speaker 1: and he seems to be just reiterating certain Muslim political
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Speaker 1: talking points. He is it's it's it's it's to attack
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Speaker 1: a Hindu leader, it's to attack leader of the one
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Speaker 1: Jewish state. And I mean, this is just something we
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Speaker 1: have seen a lot in Europe in recent years. And
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Speaker 1: it's very striking seeing this kind of Islamic politics come
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Speaker 1: to New York because you know, last year the United Nations,
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Speaker 1: the so called president of the Revolutionary Islamic pub Republic
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Speaker 1: of Iran spoke on the stage of the United Nations.
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Speaker 1: We have not yet heard Mamdani say that if a
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Speaker 1: representative of the Revolutionary government of Iran sets foot in
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Speaker 1: New York that they will be arrested. Why Why is
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Speaker 1: it only the prime ministers of India and Israel he
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Speaker 1: must be arrested in New York. Why when the President
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Speaker 1: Edwin of Turkey comes to the United Nations each year,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but the President of Turkey is currently occupying
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Speaker 1: the North of Cyprus, which is an EU member state.
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Speaker 1: Recive type. Edwin is an occupier. He's literally occupying at
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Speaker 1: the moment. He's been repressing and attacking the stateless Kurdish
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Speaker 1: people for decades. Why is Mamdani not calling for the
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Speaker 1: for the detention and arrest of President Edwin. I'm afraid
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Speaker 1: this is Islamist politicking on the international stage being brought
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Speaker 1: to the domestic stage in New York, and I think
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Speaker 1: it has no place in a mayoral race. But it's
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Speaker 1: very telling that this sort of politics has now even
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Speaker 1: entered New York mayoral politics.
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Speaker 3: It's going to be a fascinating race. The polls have
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Speaker 3: him in front of the moment, but there's a long
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Speaker 3: way to go. Now, let's go back to the UK.
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Speaker 3: There were some heartwarming scenes at Wimbledon with Princess Catherine
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Speaker 3: receiving a standing ovation. It was rather emotional and Douglas,
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Speaker 3: there's certainly a great deal of love and good will
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Speaker 3: for her from the British public.
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Speaker 2: She's in so many.
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Speaker 3: Ways the polar opposite of the most attention seeking royals
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Speaker 3: at the moment, Harry and Meghan, which she is.
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Speaker 1: And I mean it's sort of inevitable always that people
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Speaker 1: will hold these up as you know, rivals or competitors
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Speaker 1: or something like this. But really, I mean the story
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Speaker 1: with Princess Catherine is simply that you know, she has
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Speaker 1: just not put a foot wrong since she first entered
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Speaker 1: public life many years ago now, and that just stands
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Speaker 1: in stark contrast, not just to Megan, but to Harry,
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Speaker 1: who was brought up to know what the of public
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Speaker 1: service and of you know, never complain, never explain, he
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Speaker 1: was brought up in all of that. He like his wife,
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Speaker 1: has just completely flouted all of that. And Princess Catherine,
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Speaker 1: who was not brought up in that, has adopted it
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Speaker 1: and has and has been rewarded in the way that
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Speaker 1: people are when they do that. When when members of
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Speaker 1: the royal family duty to the country and a duty
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Speaker 1: to the public, the public returns the warmth in kind.
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Speaker 1: You know. It's why Princess Anne, you know, who's a
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Speaker 1: less glamorous figure, perhaps the now Princess of Wales, has
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Speaker 1: huge public admiration because she seemed to be giving her
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Speaker 1: tie a life to the country and to all of
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Speaker 1: the causes and charities and good causes within it. In
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Speaker 1: the end, that's how people get public admiration within the
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Speaker 1: royal family. It is by showing a sense of duty.
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Speaker 1: It is not by setting up in California at a
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Speaker 1: multi scollion dollar mansion and making jam that you then
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Speaker 1: flog who knew.
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Speaker 2: Well, yes, it is anything.
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Speaker 3: You think it's all about style, but really to earn
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Speaker 3: the love of the British public you have to have
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Speaker 3: some substance about you as well, and Princess Catherine certainly
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Speaker 3: has that. The Queen always understood her role. She remained
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Speaker 3: Douglas apolitical, but King Charles seems.
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Speaker 2: To struggle with that a little bit.
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Speaker 3: He's now officially in charge of saving the planet. His
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Speaker 3: role has been redefined to include leading on environmental sustainability.
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Speaker 3: Do we really need or want a climate King Douglas?
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Speaker 1: Now, I mean this really has to be I hope
20:08
Speaker 1: that the King's advisors keep this stuff away from him.
20:12
Speaker 1: As Prince of Wales, there was an argument for him
20:16
Speaker 1: to have personal causes of his own, personal campaigns of
20:20
Speaker 1: his own. On a number of those the then Prince
20:23
Speaker 1: of Wales was seen to be actually ahead of his time.
20:25
Speaker 1: Quite often faced ridicule on things like organic farming and
20:29
Speaker 1: so on, but was often actually ahead of his time
20:31
Speaker 1: and deserves some credit for that. And that's something you
20:33
Speaker 1: can do as Prince of Wales. But once he's king,
20:39
Speaker 1: I'm afraid that all of that stuff is a luxury
20:42
Speaker 1: that he just can't afford. None of the things that
20:46
Speaker 1: could be the day to day stuff of politics, and
20:49
Speaker 1: politicking can be in his realm. His realm is to
20:53
Speaker 1: be king and to be above politics and to be
20:57
Speaker 1: above all of this sort of thing. And that just
21:00
Speaker 1: has a very very special role in a constitutional monarchy,
21:03
Speaker 1: because otherwise, you know, basically you're stuck in the sort
21:07
Speaker 1: of day to day ed millibandness of everything. For instance,
21:13
Speaker 1: that you're sort of stuck in being climate secretary and
21:18
Speaker 1: talking about emissions and so on. That's not what the
21:22
Speaker 1: monarchy is there for. The light that the monarchy can
21:27
Speaker 1: shed on a constitutional system is the light of something
21:31
Speaker 1: that is above politics and above the fray and that
21:35
Speaker 1: unites people. And as you say, Reata, the late Queen
21:38
Speaker 1: was an absolute master of that. Nobody ever knew where
21:41
Speaker 1: she stood on anything other than her service to the
21:44
Speaker 1: country and her love for the country and the Commonwealth.
21:47
Speaker 1: Other than that, it was an absolutely closed box. And
21:51
Speaker 1: I think that was the ideal. That is the ideal,
21:54
Speaker 1: and it's one that Prince Charles, now King Charles, was
21:56
Speaker 1: brought up with. And I hope his advisors advise him
22:00
Speaker 1: to try to stick to that and his mother's example.
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Speaker 2: I do hope.
22:05
Speaker 3: So I don't want to see the King defending those
22:08
Speaker 3: hideous soul of farms that are destroying their British countryside,
22:13
Speaker 3: or having meetings with qutter Thalberg, or the.
22:19
Speaker 1: The windmills which have completely polluted the land some of
22:22
Speaker 1: the most beautiful bits of landscape in the UK. You
22:25
Speaker 1: drive past them, now, go past my train, and great
22:28
Speaker 1: bits of the countryside like the southwest of Scotland just
22:32
Speaker 1: covered in these hideous, hideous windmills. And you know, surely,
22:37
Speaker 1: surely anyone who loves the land and the countryside can't
22:41
Speaker 1: improve of that endlessly? Why save Why wreck the environment
22:47
Speaker 1: in order to save it? Allegedly?
22:52
Speaker 2: Well, that's the incredible thing.
22:54
Speaker 3: The people you would think would love the natural environment
22:57
Speaker 3: are the most enthusiastic about destroying it.
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Speaker 2: Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your time tonight.
23:03
Speaker 2: Great pleasure still to come.
23:05
Speaker 3: An extended version of Lefties Losing It plass Australia's pharmaceutical experts.
23:10
Speaker 2: To the US in Jeopardy. John Henderaker is up next.
23:25
Speaker 3: You're watching the Riada Panecky Show, and it's time for
23:27
Speaker 3: Lefties Losing It And let's start with Anna Navarro. She's
23:31
Speaker 3: not only one of the miserable maidens of the view,
23:34
Speaker 3: but she also shares her unpleasant and uninformed invective on CNN,
23:39
Speaker 3: where she dismisses certain opinions.
23:41
Speaker 2: Based on gender and race are progressive.
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Speaker 9: Also, I want to respond to you saying that I
23:47
Speaker 9: was hyperbolic when I talked about a rain of terror. No,
23:51
Speaker 9: it might be hyperbolic for you as a white man,
23:54
Speaker 9: it's certainly not hyperbolic for me.
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Speaker 7: No, I'm not being racist. It's as my opinion. Well,
24:00
Speaker 7: I'm not.
24:01
Speaker 9: Dismissing your opinion. I am telling you that what Latino,
24:03
Speaker 9: the Latino community, the brown community in America.
24:07
Speaker 2: Okay, well, let me speak with my voice. And you
24:09
Speaker 2: said I was being hyperbolic.
24:11
Speaker 9: Let me rep I'm not being a white man as
24:14
Speaker 9: an insult.
24:14
Speaker 10: You when you're invoke it to dismiss man being a
24:16
Speaker 10: white man as an.
24:17
Speaker 2: Insult when you're invoked.
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Speaker 9: Do you think do you do you think Latinos are
24:21
Speaker 9: living under circumstances right now?
24:25
Speaker 3: There she goes again, pretending every member of the Latino
24:30
Speaker 3: community is illegal and fearful of being deported. As for
24:34
Speaker 3: her being blatantly sexist and racist in that instance, well,
24:38
Speaker 3: it wasn't long before CNN host Abby Philip was rushing
24:43
Speaker 3: to rescue Anna and defend her bigotry.
24:46
Speaker 2: Wonder if she'd do that if a.
24:47
Speaker 3: Man dismissed Navarro's opinion because of her gender and race.
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Speaker 11: I just want to make a point that, Brad. All
24:54
Speaker 11: she's saying is that her view of the situation is
24:57
Speaker 11: different from yours. I don't think that's an insult.
24:59
Speaker 12: Basically at home, she just said I see it, I.
25:05
Speaker 11: See it differently from you, which is not an insult.
25:08
Speaker 11: It's not and it's also not a recal.
25:11
Speaker 3: Say what now, Abby, nice attempt at gas lighting. But
25:14
Speaker 3: we just heard Ada being racial. It wasn't the difference
25:19
Speaker 3: in opinion.
25:20
Speaker 2: That was ugly.
25:20
Speaker 3: It was the racist, sexist reason behind it.
25:25
Speaker 2: Is it weight man? Is it weight man?
25:27
Speaker 1: Now?
25:27
Speaker 3: Let's go to Anna's view co host Sonny Houston, who
25:31
Speaker 3: exemplifies the left so beautifully, so unprincipled, so inconsistent, so
25:36
Speaker 3: utterly devoid of anything resembling a good faith argument. Let's
25:41
Speaker 3: see her go from claiming anyone who wants the Epstein
25:44
Speaker 3: list released is a reckless conspiracy theorist. That's when the
25:48
Speaker 3: Democrats were in power. But now that Trump is in power, well,
25:52
Speaker 3: she's had a dramatic change of heart. And let's thank MASL.
25:57
Speaker 3: Moore again for this superb clip.
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Speaker 12: People were dying for this information. There was some sort
26:04
Speaker 12: of list that everybody thought was going to come out,
26:06
Speaker 12: and who's.
26:07
Speaker 2: On the list.
26:08
Speaker 12: What's important for us to note is we shouldn't been
26:11
Speaker 12: repeating names that are on the list, because just because
26:14
Speaker 12: your name has not on the list but in the documents,
26:17
Speaker 12: just because your name is on the documents, does it
26:20
Speaker 12: mean that you have done anything criminally irresponsible or illegal
26:25
Speaker 12: or civilly irresponsible.
26:27
Speaker 2: Oh, that you were clients or that you were a client.
26:30
Speaker 12: The only really these documents, as I read them, only
26:33
Speaker 12: reflect Epstein's sexual assaults of women and his sexual behavior.
26:41
Speaker 12: So I think that Alane also and Galane and so
26:45
Speaker 12: being named in this suit does not equate to being
26:47
Speaker 12: accused of wrongdoing. And I think that is extremely important
26:50
Speaker 12: because conspiracy theories seem to not understand or enjoy facts. Yes,
26:56
Speaker 12: these are the facts. There is a list. Name is
27:01
Speaker 12: on the logs, the passenger logs of Epstein's aircraft at
27:04
Speaker 12: least seven times that's already been made public. I mean,
27:07
Speaker 12: of course, Trump is denying any, any and all allegations
27:11
Speaker 12: but all of that information is out there, why not
27:15
Speaker 12: just put it to rest and say, release the look.
27:19
Speaker 3: And let's stick with the ladies of the view. Whoopy
27:21
Speaker 3: Goldberg is unhappy again. This time she's attacking her own,
27:25
Speaker 3: including Mark Cuban and even Barack Obama, who have advised
27:29
Speaker 3: the left that advised the Democrats to stop whining so much.
27:33
Speaker 3: Whoopy is outrage she wants to keep whining incessantly.
27:37
Speaker 4: Let me remind everybody who was out in the front
27:41
Speaker 4: lines marching when we had the giant marches that went on,
27:46
Speaker 4: it was the people. The people went out, They were
27:49
Speaker 4: not navel gazing. It was older people who were saying,
27:52
Speaker 4: why are you touching my social security? It was not
27:56
Speaker 4: people whining.
27:57
Speaker 12: With much due respect to you both, I believe you.
28:01
Speaker 4: Are pointing the finger at the wrong person when you
28:04
Speaker 4: say Democrats.
28:06
Speaker 3: And let's hear from Barack Obama, who's had a dramatic
28:10
Speaker 3: change of heart, almost sunny Houston like he's gone from
28:14
Speaker 3: brating men claiming that only sexism is stopping them from
28:18
Speaker 3: voting for Kamala Harris.
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Speaker 13: Remember this, and you're coming up with all kinds of
28:22
Speaker 13: reasons and excuses.
28:29
Speaker 1: I've got a problem with.
28:30
Speaker 13: That because part of it makes me think I'm speaking
28:36
Speaker 13: to men directly. Part of it makes me think that, well,
28:41
Speaker 13: you just aren't feeling the idea of having a woman
28:44
Speaker 13: as president, and you're coming up with other alternatives and
28:48
Speaker 13: other reasons for them. That's not exciting.
28:51
Speaker 3: Gosh, I can't believe that didn't work. But now Barack
28:54
Speaker 3: Obama has had a change of heart is change is
28:57
Speaker 3: toued here is rooting for men. On Michelle Obama podcast,
29:01
Speaker 3: he explains that boys and men feel like they're not
29:04
Speaker 3: being valued.
29:05
Speaker 8: And I would argue that some of the broad political
29:08
Speaker 8: trends we've seen, not just in this country but around
29:11
Speaker 8: the world have to do with this sense of you know, boys,
29:19
Speaker 8: men not feeling as if they are seen, seeing feeling
29:25
Speaker 8: as if they count, and that then makes them more
29:29
Speaker 8: interested in appeals by folks who say, you know what,
29:35
Speaker 8: the reason you don't feel respected is because women have
29:40
Speaker 8: been doing this or this group has been doing this, sir,
29:43
Speaker 8: that group's been.
29:43
Speaker 13: Doing this, and.
29:46
Speaker 8: That is not a that's not a healthy place to be.
29:50
Speaker 7: Now.
29:50
Speaker 3: In the past, we've talked about Barbara Streisan blaming Donald
29:54
Speaker 3: Trump for getting fat.
29:56
Speaker 2: Her words, not mine.
29:57
Speaker 3: Rosio' Donald blamed the President for her drinking too much,
30:01
Speaker 3: and now we have actress Valerie Bertinelli getting on the
30:05
Speaker 3: internet to talk about her desire for alcohol and food.
30:09
Speaker 3: To give this democrat some credit. She is a big Democrat.
30:13
Speaker 3: She even filmed herself voting for Kamala I'm embarrassing now
30:18
Speaker 3: to give her credit. She doesn't directly blame Trump for
30:21
Speaker 3: her online meltdown, but we all know who's to blame.
30:24
Speaker 2: I want to drink.
30:27
Speaker 14: I want to know it. I don't want to feel it,
30:31
Speaker 14: But my logical mind is like, no, you know I
30:33
Speaker 14: did that. You don't want to come in. You know
30:35
Speaker 14: what will help you feel better is to just feel
30:39
Speaker 14: the feelings. Get through to the other side. Have a
30:42
Speaker 14: good cry, yet a cat.
30:44
Speaker 15: Cry joining me now is president of the Center for
30:50
Speaker 15: the American Experiment and founder of the popular Powerline blog.
30:54
Speaker 2: John Heindereiker.
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Speaker 3: John, let's start with the White House investigating former President
31:00
Speaker 3: Joe Biden's use of the auto pen with senior administration
31:04
Speaker 3: officials reviewing tens of thousands of documents turned over by
31:09
Speaker 3: the National Archives and Records Administration.
31:13
Speaker 2: But the former president, he's.
31:16
Speaker 3: Phoned The New York Times and he claims there's nothing
31:18
Speaker 3: improper about the auto pen He told the New York
31:22
Speaker 3: Times he hadn't personally signed the orders, including those last
31:26
Speaker 3: presidential pardons, because there was a lot of them. What
31:31
Speaker 3: do you make of this story, John, is there anything
31:33
Speaker 3: to see here?
31:35
Speaker 16: Well?
31:36
Speaker 12: Rita.
31:36
Speaker 17: First of all, Joe Biden got ahold of the New
31:39
Speaker 17: York Times and gave them an interview because they're trying
31:42
Speaker 17: to get ahead of this story. They know it looks bad.
31:44
Speaker 17: They're trying to get their version out in front of
31:48
Speaker 17: the story. And it is ironic that Joe Biden says, well,
31:51
Speaker 17: there were so many pardons and commutations, I couldn't possibly
31:54
Speaker 17: sign them all. There's too many. I think he did
31:57
Speaker 17: grant a record number of And what his staff says,
32:01
Speaker 17: what the stories. What the story is is that Biden
32:05
Speaker 17: didn't know the names of the individual people he was pardoning.
32:09
Speaker 17: They would talk about people by category, and the story
32:13
Speaker 17: is Biden would say, oh, yeah, pardon everyone in that category,
32:17
Speaker 17: and then they'd have a list of, you know.
32:18
Speaker 1: A thousand people, and they'd work.
32:20
Speaker 17: The autopad and the whole process is just it's outrageous.
32:24
Speaker 17: And one thing you'll notice, reader, is that Joe Biden
32:27
Speaker 17: did sign his family's pardons. Personally, he knew about those
32:32
Speaker 17: pardons and he did sign.
32:36
Speaker 12: Well.
32:37
Speaker 3: I think that is a tell right there. I think
32:39
Speaker 3: that was a mistake on his party. If you going
32:41
Speaker 3: to use the auto pen, then don't make an exception
32:45
Speaker 3: for family members.
32:46
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. I think that's the greatest.
32:49
Speaker 3: Scandal of modern American history, the fact that there was
32:53
Speaker 3: a president in the Oval office who was so cognitively
32:57
Speaker 3: impaired that we really don't know who was running the country.
33:00
Speaker 3: Let's go to a story that impacts Australia, with President
33:04
Speaker 3: Donald Trump planning to increase the tariff rate on pharmaceutical
33:08
Speaker 3: imports to the US. Last year, Australia exported around two
33:12
Speaker 3: point one billion dollars of medicinal and pharmaceutical products to
33:16
Speaker 3: the US, but that may change with President Trump determined
33:20
Speaker 3: to see manufacturing return to the US.
33:23
Speaker 18: Farmer suiticals will be tariff probably at the end of
33:26
Speaker 18: the month, and we're going to start off with a
33:28
Speaker 18: low tarraff and give the pharmaceutical companies a year or
33:32
Speaker 18: so to bill and then we're going to make it
33:35
Speaker 18: a very high traff because.
33:38
Speaker 1: We got to move them there.
33:38
Speaker 18: Look, there's two ways you do it. You make money
33:42
Speaker 18: and more, and or you have them move here so
33:45
Speaker 18: they don't have to pay the RAF. Those are the
33:47
Speaker 18: two ways the pharmaceutical companies are moving back to America
33:51
Speaker 18: where they should be.
33:54
Speaker 3: John, it may not be great for Australia, but he's
33:57
Speaker 3: not the President of Australia, and he wasn't elected on
34:00
Speaker 3: an Australia first platform. He was elected on America first platform.
34:04
Speaker 3: And this is precisely what he campaigned on, returning manufacturing
34:09
Speaker 3: to the US.
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Speaker 17: So read A part of what's going on here is
34:13
Speaker 17: that we import a huge percentage of our pharmaceuticals, especially
34:17
Speaker 17: our generics, from China, and that's just unacceptable. We can't
34:21
Speaker 17: be in a situation where the Chinese, at best a rival,
34:25
Speaker 17: if not an adversary of the US, are in a
34:28
Speaker 17: position to cut off our pharmaceuticals. And yet that's the
34:31
Speaker 17: position that we're in. And I think to some extent
34:34
Speaker 17: Australia might be a little bit caught on the crossfire here.
34:37
Speaker 17: I don't mind Australia producing drugs for the US, but
34:40
Speaker 17: I don't want to rely on the Chinese for it.
34:44
Speaker 3: No well said, and I've got to say our government
34:47
Speaker 3: hasn't exactly covered itself in glory in dealing with the US.
34:52
Speaker 3: We've got an ambassador who's on record saying terrible things
34:55
Speaker 3: about Donald Trump and the Prime Minister and some of
34:59
Speaker 3: his ministers also, So we are I think we're in
35:03
Speaker 3: the freezer at the moment. Now, let's move on to
35:06
Speaker 3: the Jeffrey Epstein saga. Earlier today, Attorney General Pam Bondi
35:11
Speaker 3: said there's no change to her position on Jeffrey Epstein
35:14
Speaker 3: after President Trump suggested she could release more files.
35:19
Speaker 2: Do you see this as an.
35:21
Speaker 3: Issue, John that could fracture Trump's supporter base? And why
35:26
Speaker 3: aren't we seeing more information released?
35:29
Speaker 17: Well, I hope not, Reta. I think we should start
35:31
Speaker 17: with the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was a Democrat. He
35:34
Speaker 17: contributed to Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, a bunch of other Democrats.
35:39
Speaker 17: The only politician that he's known to have had a
35:42
Speaker 17: relationship with that was at all significant was Bill Clinton.
35:45
Speaker 17: So it's ironic that this hot potato is now dropping
35:49
Speaker 17: in the lap of a Republican administration that had nothing
35:52
Speaker 17: to do with Jeffrey Epstein. But what I think is
35:55
Speaker 17: going on here, Rita, is that there are a voluminous
35:58
Speaker 17: investigative files related to Epstein. Now, investigative files are never released.
36:04
Speaker 17: They aren't released, and they shouldn't be. They're full of
36:07
Speaker 17: false accusations, of hearsay, of people telling the police things
36:12
Speaker 17: that might be embarrassing about their observations of a crime
36:15
Speaker 17: or whatever, but are not criminal. And it's important that
36:18
Speaker 17: people be able to talk to the police without worrying
36:22
Speaker 17: that anything I say might show up in the newspapers
36:24
Speaker 17: in a couple of years. So I think that's what's happening. Yeah,
36:27
Speaker 17: there are files, but they are the kind of investigative
36:30
Speaker 17: files that are just never released.
36:35
Speaker 2: But there was so much evidence.
36:38
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein was known to have cameras in so many
36:42
Speaker 3: rooms in his mansions and on the island, and there
36:46
Speaker 3: was just all this evidence that was captured at some point,
36:51
Speaker 3: and you expect to see something out of that.
36:53
Speaker 2: You expect to see some.
36:55
Speaker 3: Of the influential, rich, powerful people that he had in
36:58
Speaker 3: his orbit bose, But to have nothing, I think I
37:02
Speaker 3: can understand why there's a lot of people who are
37:05
Speaker 3: unhappy about it. On Jeffrey Epstein, former Israeli Prime Minister
37:09
Speaker 3: and if Dai Bennett has denied that he worked with
37:13
Speaker 3: Israeli intelligence that he was a part of moss At
37:16
Speaker 3: in any way, John, what do you make of that?
37:19
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that even that is going to convince
37:21
Speaker 3: too many people who are interested in this case. Again,
37:26
Speaker 3: there's so much mystery surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's rise to incredible
37:31
Speaker 3: wealth and influence. That's something that we still not one
37:36
Speaker 3: hundred percent clear on.
37:39
Speaker 17: Well, Rita, maybe somebody else knows something that I don't,
37:42
Speaker 17: But I'm not aware of any evidence whatsoever that Jeffrey
37:46
Speaker 17: Epstein had anything to do with the Massad. That is
37:49
Speaker 17: something that was just tossed out there by Tucker Carlson
37:52
Speaker 17: with no supporting evidence whatsoever, and as far as I know,
37:56
Speaker 17: there isn't any. So if somebody has got some evidence
37:59
Speaker 17: that somehow les thanks Epstein to the Israeli government, I'd
38:03
Speaker 17: like to see it, but as far as I know,
38:05
Speaker 17: it doesn't exist.
38:08
Speaker 3: Now it's evident that the President doesn't care much about
38:12
Speaker 3: this issue. He sees it as an irritation, really a
38:17
Speaker 3: distraction from the major issues. I think that's a mistake,
38:21
Speaker 3: but you can understand because he's dealing with some fairly
38:24
Speaker 3: major issues, and one of the things that he wants
38:28
Speaker 3: highlighted is his incredible success on the border.
38:32
Speaker 10: Have a look at this border data for the month
38:35
Speaker 10: of June highlights the lowest month of encounters ever recorded.
38:40
Speaker 10: Customs and Border Protection says it is the second month
38:44
Speaker 10: in a row of zero releases of illegal aliens into
38:47
Speaker 10: the US, compared to almost twenty eight thousand releases in
38:51
Speaker 10: June of last year.
38:53
Speaker 3: John, the data around illegal immigration is quite astonishing. I
38:59
Speaker 3: don't think anyone expected that these policies, Trump's policies would
39:04
Speaker 3: end the crisis in a matter of weeks, But that's
39:07
Speaker 3: what's happened, and those historically low numbers are holding.
39:13
Speaker 17: Rita. This is an unbelievable success. And you think back
39:16
Speaker 17: to the latter days of the Biden administration where they
39:19
Speaker 17: were saying, oh, it's impossible, you can't close the border.
39:22
Speaker 17: We need new legislation, the Republicans won't pass new laws. Well,
39:27
Speaker 17: it turns out, as we all suspected, Rita, that all
39:29
Speaker 17: we needed was a president who actually wanted to do
39:32
Speaker 17: is constitutional duty enforce the law. And once they started
39:36
Speaker 17: enforcing the law, guess what, no more significant level of
39:40
Speaker 17: infiltration by illegal immigrants. And now they're having great success
39:45
Speaker 17: in convincing illegal immigrants to self deport They're doing things
39:49
Speaker 17: like the Alligator Alcatraz, you know, publicizing publicizing that fability,
39:54
Speaker 17: obviously for the purpose of inspiring people who are here
39:58
Speaker 17: illegally to dec they'd be better off to go back
40:02
Speaker 17: to their home countries where there are citizens.
40:06
Speaker 2: It's been quite incredible.
40:08
Speaker 3: There's some polling coming out saying that the deportation program
40:14
Speaker 3: is not as popular as it once was.
40:17
Speaker 2: I've got my doubts about those polls.
40:19
Speaker 3: We'll check in on them next week because they do
40:21
Speaker 3: seem to jump around the place. But we always love
40:24
Speaker 3: your insights. John Honderaka, thank you so much for your time.
40:27
Speaker 17: Tonight, thank you.
40:29
Speaker 2: Litter Still to come, I'll.
40:31
Speaker 3: Speak to a lesbian who is taking on the transactivists
40:34
Speaker 3: and winning. Ril Scartcheller joins me next.
40:48
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
40:49
Speaker 3: Now, the almighty LGBTQIA plus plus plus community is fracturing.
40:56
Speaker 3: This group that has enjoyed disproportionate power, disproportionate inflames in
41:00
Speaker 3: recent years is splitting, with many in the lgb part lesbian's,
41:05
Speaker 3: gays and bisexuals rejecting the excesses of the trans movement.
41:11
Speaker 2: We are normal gays.
41:12
Speaker 12: You are absolutely embarrassed by the insanity of queer ideology
41:16
Speaker 12: and are announcing our departure.
41:19
Speaker 2: If you want to keep chugging along with the people
41:21
Speaker 2: who make everything.
41:22
Speaker 12: About race, believe in thousands of genders and transition children, yehnest, did.
41:28
Speaker 10: You stand for the separation between crazy and common sense?
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Speaker 5: And you no longer agree with the ideology of woke activism.
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Speaker 12: We are taking a stand by reposting, resharing, and refocusing
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Speaker 12: our energy on us.
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Speaker 3: And let's see what happened when Aril Scatcheller you saw
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Speaker 3: in that clip attended Pride in New York and sought
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Speaker 3: to have some sane, rational conversations. Didn't go too well.
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Speaker 3: You see, the love and tolerance mob can't even tolerate
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Speaker 3: lesbian a member of the lgbtquit community who is not
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Speaker 3: in favor of irreversible trans treatments for children.
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Speaker 11: Watch this, tysok Away the procedures for people to be
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Speaker 11: able to Supreme Court just.
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Speaker 14: Ruled on that on miners.
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Speaker 16: On miners, Yes, on miners.
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Speaker 7: You can no longer get gender affirming care under eighteen
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Speaker 7: and times.
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Speaker 16: I agree with that, and I think a lot of
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Speaker 16: LGBT people do, including a lot of my transsexual friends.
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Speaker 7: So what are trans kids supposed to do? Just sit
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Speaker 7: and wait? A lot of kids grow out of its,
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Speaker 7: kids grow out of it. So you're saying it's a choice.
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Speaker 7: You're saying it's a pase. I don't see it's coming
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Speaker 7: to New York Pride trying to say it's why were
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Speaker 7: okay with this conservative influencer trying to say that transni
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Speaker 7: is a choice? The words in my mouth? They didn't
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Speaker 7: say that. But we're just letting this happen.
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Speaker 2: Well, I fuck away from the Pride brain.
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Speaker 7: We're just gonna let this happen.
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Speaker 16: Yeh, it's freedom of speech.
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Speaker 7: I also I also didn't. I also didn't say that.
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Speaker 16: I also didn't say that.
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Speaker 7: What's the problem with if you let me talk?
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Speaker 16: If you said you're gonna calm down, you're gonna let
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Speaker 16: me talk because you're okay?
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Speaker 7: Don Is you're spreading hate? I'm gay?
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Speaker 2: Joining me now?
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Speaker 3: Is YouTuber and conservative gay activist at Ariel scotch Ella. Ariel,
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Speaker 3: were you spreading height there in New York City, just
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Speaker 3: around the corner from a Pride parade?
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Speaker 16: I mean I was a Pride parade myself, right, I'm
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Speaker 16: a lesbian. I should be allowed to be there and
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Speaker 16: I would have never thought that this little hat and
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Speaker 16: five foot one, little old.
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Speaker 14: Me would It was such a hectic day.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm just kidding.
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Speaker 16: I knew that was going to cause a hectic day.
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Speaker 7: That's it.
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Speaker 16: But it's crazy because New York City is supposed to
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Speaker 16: be the most liberal city in the world. Right, this
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Speaker 16: just proves once again what we know that leftists are
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Speaker 16: not actual liberals right in the true sense of the word,
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Speaker 16: which is why I made that video. You know, there
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Speaker 16: was a girl on TikTok that wrote to me and said, listen,
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Speaker 16: we need a day. We need to show people that
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Speaker 16: we are not like these crazy people. We're different, normal
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Speaker 16: gize and I said, let's do it. She decided to
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Speaker 16: call an Alliance Day, which is the first video you
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Speaker 16: showed on the show. And it's almost funny because the
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Speaker 16: last time I spoke to you publicly like this was
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Speaker 16: six years ago when I visited you in Australia. I
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Speaker 16: was leaving the left then, yes, and now it's just
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Speaker 16: like I'm inviting everyone else to come along and now
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Speaker 16: we have you know, we just we want to celebrate
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Speaker 16: one day you can.
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Speaker 7: Be you know, a gale.
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Speaker 16: We need alliance.
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Speaker 3: We need you back Aril for Marti Gras. Next time,
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Speaker 3: Marty grass On, you need to be back here. You
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Speaker 3: need to be wearing that cap, and hopefully this time
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Speaker 3: you will have a lot more support, because it must
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Speaker 3: be pretty confronting to have someone like that towering over
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Speaker 3: you saying you shouldn't be able to express your opinion.
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Speaker 3: These crazy activists think your opinion is the deserving of violence,
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Speaker 3: because I mean, what else do they mean when they
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Speaker 3: say are we just going to let us say that?
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Speaker 2: Are they gonna basically stop you?
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Speaker 16: I guess. I mean, even if they don't verbally say
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Speaker 16: that they're calling for violence, I think it says everything
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Speaker 16: that I had to hire a bodyguard with me this
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Speaker 16: time around. There are a number of other LGBT people
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Speaker 16: normal Gaze, and there are a number of other just
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Speaker 16: regular straight people that have been doing these types of
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Speaker 16: street interviews and getting physically and verbally harassed. Savannah I
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Speaker 16: forget her last name, but Savannah recently was that like
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Speaker 16: an anti abortion or a pro life rally, whatever it
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Speaker 16: was interviewing people and got punch your space.
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Speaker 7: Like this is this is?
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Speaker 16: It has come down to this, which is really sad.
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Speaker 16: So I said, you know, I'm gonna hire a bodyguards.
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Speaker 2: It is really quite terrifying. You do need a bodyguard.
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Speaker 3: But we have saying this factoring of the LGBT community.
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Speaker 3: It's not just yourself, you've been one of the leaders
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Speaker 3: of it.
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Speaker 2: Where do you think the split is right now?
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Speaker 3: The dissenting voices like yourself a small minority, or do
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Speaker 3: you represent a sizeable chunk of that community.
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Speaker 16: I think six years ago there was a very small
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Speaker 16: fraction of us, and I think now, just based on
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Speaker 16: how many views that one video of Alliance they got,
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Speaker 16: it blew up on every single platform. Just that alone
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Speaker 16: shows me that there's more of us now than way
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Speaker 16: more of us now than before. And I think it
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Speaker 16: comes down to three main issues. It's the lead kids
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Speaker 16: alone debate, the protect women's spaces debate, and the transsexual
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Speaker 16: versus transgender or transsexual versus gender identity debate. So it's
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Speaker 16: basically it basically comes down to biological reality and identity,
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Speaker 16: and a lot of these normal gays like myself are
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Speaker 16: not for any of those three things.
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Speaker 15: Right.
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Speaker 16: We want to leave the kids who protect women's and
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Speaker 16: we believe in transsexualism, but not at the expense of
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Speaker 16: women's spaces. And kids, right, like, it all kind of
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Speaker 16: comes together, and I think the majority of I think
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Speaker 16: the majority of people are over it, to be honest.
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Speaker 3: Now, the excesses of the trans movement, this obsession you
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Speaker 3: mentioned with exposing children to this ideology has really changed
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Speaker 3: people's perceptions of the community.
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Speaker 2: I know several trans people who are.
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Speaker 3: Deeply unhappy about the activists and how they've changed the
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Speaker 3: way many people see them. I think this has actually
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Speaker 3: been terrible for people who identify as trans, who don't
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Speaker 3: want to have anything to do with this activism, but
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Speaker 3: who are now viewed in a political light.
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
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Speaker 16: I mean, if you think about it, the majority of us,
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Speaker 16: like we always say, we're normal gains, are normal trans people.
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Speaker 16: We just want to like when we said we want
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Speaker 16: equal rights, we wanted equal rights, we wanted to assimilate
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Speaker 16: into society. That's very different than this queer movement that
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Speaker 16: has taken over and and you know, basically taken over
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Speaker 16: our movement, renamed itself and it's fighting for everything that
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Speaker 16: we disagree with, which is why we've seen the divorce
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Speaker 16: happening for quite some time now. There's I mean, there's
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Speaker 16: there's a lot of people popping up There's of course,
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Speaker 16: is Blair White. There's Buckangel like all these people. There's
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Speaker 16: Becky Weiss, there's a ton of there's a conservative aunt,
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Speaker 16: I'm sure you've heard of him.
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Speaker 1: Just a lot of normal.
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Speaker 16: I hate saying the word normal, but it's like, we
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Speaker 16: really are just like normal people that wanted wanted to
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Speaker 16: integrate into society, and we have those rights now. And
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Speaker 16: of course the queer as wellists on the other hand,
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Speaker 16: are making up all these new identities that they now
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Speaker 16: have to fight for which aren't even real.
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Speaker 3: Well, you are, your movement is gaining strength, it's gaining numbers,
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Speaker 3: it's become very much more mainstream, and we look forward
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Speaker 3: to talking to you again. Ariel sca Cella. I also
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Speaker 3: want to talk to you about what you've described as
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Speaker 3: the left's war on it to traditional family values. Will
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Speaker 3: do that next time. Thanks for your time tonight, and
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Speaker 3: that's it from me. Up next, it's Newsnight,