Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Dr. Peter Michalos | Offers Expert Opinion on Efforts to Significantly Increase Human Longevity
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Dr. Peter Michalos, and he has a new book out too,
- 0:03Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that. But I guess, you know
- 0:07Speaker 1: how many phone calls, you know how many texts I
- 0:09Speaker 1: get a week? Thank you for all the advice, and
- 0:13Speaker 1: we're going to live longer. Dr. Peter, how are you today?
- 0:17Speaker 2: I'm doing great, John. It's great to be with you
- 0:19Speaker 2: this morning to share some more great information coming out
- 0:23Speaker 2: from around the world on anti-aging and longevity.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Tell us, Dr. Peter, tell us, you know, me and
- 0:30Speaker 1: you have discussed it in length over the weekend and
- 0:33Speaker 1: the three billionaires that are trying to want to live longer.
- 0:39Speaker 1: And I'm telling people that if you have a baby
- 0:42Speaker 1: right now, guaranteed 120 and maybe someday 150. And tell
- 0:44Speaker 1: us that. the gene within the gene that helps, that
- 0:56Speaker 1: recreates our youth.
- 0:59Speaker 2: Well, this month on the cover of Time magazine is Dr. Yamanaka,
- 1:04Speaker 2: who is a surgeon in Japan, and he received the
- 1:06Speaker 2: Nobel Prize, and he found that each one of our
- 1:10Speaker 2: cells has the software for the younger version of our cells.
- 1:15Speaker 2: And what he discovered are these Yamanaka factors called the O, S,
- 1:19Speaker 2: and K factors. And when they gave those factors to
- 1:24Speaker 2: blind mice in the glaucoma model and blind apes, they
- 1:29Speaker 2: reversed blindness. And then they gave those factors... to wild
- 1:34Speaker 2: mice at Stanford University, and they lived 109% longer, which
- 1:38Speaker 2: is an extra 200 days, which is the equivalent of
- 1:41Speaker 2: 34 human years. And what these factors do is they tell,
- 1:44Speaker 2: it's called epigenetic reprogramming. It tells your DNA, listen, heal, repair,
- 1:51Speaker 2: and go back to a younger stage. Now, if you
- 1:54Speaker 2: go back too far, it becomes a cancer cell. And
- 1:57Speaker 2: they figured out The original factors were four, and then
- 2:00Speaker 2: they would give cancer to cells. But then when they
- 2:03Speaker 2: only gave three of the factors, which was discovered in
- 2:07Speaker 2: a lab by Dr. Woon Lee in David Sinclair's lab
- 2:12Speaker 2: at Harvard, and they found that they were able to partially...
- 2:16Speaker 2: tell yourselves, go back 10 years, go back 20 years.
- 2:20Speaker 2: And the first human who was blind was injected on
- 2:23Speaker 2: June 9th, 2026 this year. And it's really exciting. The
- 2:27Speaker 2: medicine's called ER100 and they've done 18 patients. And any
- 2:32Speaker 2: day now we're going to hear about the results. And
- 2:34Speaker 2: this is really going to change medicine, change the way
- 2:38Speaker 2: we approach healthcare. And basically it's like, uh, stem cells.
- 2:45Speaker 2: I mean, we start off as a, basically when we're conceived,
- 2:49Speaker 2: we start off as a stem cell and those stem
- 2:52Speaker 2: cells then become who we are today, which is 40
- 2:54Speaker 2: trillion cells that continue to recycle and continue to specialize
- 2:59Speaker 2: and become heart, brain, lungs. So harnessing this power of
- 3:04Speaker 2: getting back to the original healing cells, because stem cells
- 3:08Speaker 2: are our natural repair cells. And so, They're basically the
- 3:12Speaker 2: handyman that goes around and fixes everything. And, you know,
- 3:16Speaker 2: when people have cancer, they do bone marrow transplant. That's
- 3:18Speaker 2: basically just giving you stem cells, and then they know
- 3:21Speaker 2: where to go and how to heal. And what this
- 3:24Speaker 2: OSK Yamanaka factors, they tell the cells, lay, heal, repair,
- 3:30Speaker 2: go back to your 20-year-old John Katsimatidis or Peter Michalos.
- 3:35Speaker 2: And then we're probably, in a couple of years, if
- 3:38Speaker 2: things go well with this, we're going to go into
- 3:40Speaker 2: these regeneratives. clinics and get an infusion of these Yamanaka factors,
- 3:46Speaker 2: and they attach them to something called an adenovirus, which
- 3:49Speaker 2: is like a common cold virus, and that's how it
- 3:51Speaker 2: gets into the body and into the cells. So it's
- 3:54Speaker 2: a fascinating area. That's why Jeff Bezos raised $ 3 billion
- 3:58Speaker 2: and started Altos Labs out in California, and several other
- 4:04Speaker 2: people in that tech world, like Sam Altman, they've put
- 4:07Speaker 2: money into another company that's going to do it for
- 4:09Speaker 2: Alzheimer's disease and to tell the brain cells to go
- 4:13Speaker 2: back to it.
- 4:14Speaker 1: So we're moving at warp speed in medicine. That's bottom line.
- 4:21Speaker 1: And so over the next 10, 20 years, at what
- 4:26Speaker 1: point do we make a big breakthrough? You said we
- 4:29Speaker 1: have 50 trillion.
- 4:31Speaker 2: 40 trillion cells in our body. That's a lot of cells.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Even for the high-speed computers.
- 4:40Speaker 2: It is, it is. And another really fascinating study, because
- 4:43Speaker 2: you and I talk a lot about wearables and the watches.
- 4:47Speaker 2: They just looked at, this is a brand new study
- 4:49Speaker 2: that just came out, breaking news on WABC. It's a
- 4:52Speaker 2: 2026 study that was published in the European Journal of
- 4:59Speaker 2: Preventive Cardiology. And what they found, they looked at all
- 5:03Speaker 2: the wearables and they studied, and people they found who
- 5:07Speaker 2: had eight hours of sleep up to nine hours on
- 5:11Speaker 2: the wearables. They looked at all the data and they
- 5:15Speaker 2: had at least 140 minutes a week of good exercise.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Their risk and they also reported that they had good nutrition,
- 5:24Speaker 2: Mediterranean diet, those people had a 57% reduction in the
- 5:29Speaker 2: incidence of heart attacks. Now, that's a big deal, too.
- 5:32Speaker 2: And that's now because with all this data we have
- 5:34Speaker 2: with AI, it can pull it together just from people's
- 5:37Speaker 2: wearable watches, and they did this in England. So sleep,
- 5:42Speaker 2: physical activity, and nutrition.
- 5:44Speaker 1: So what's the minimum sleep then, again?
- 5:47Speaker 2: If you can get eight to nine hours. But sometimes
- 5:51Speaker 2: when we- That's honest.
- 5:52Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't get it. I think between John and myself,
- 5:54Speaker 3: maybe we get eight hours combined. Hey, doctor, have you
- 5:57Speaker 3: ever heard the joke, why do Jewish men die before
- 6:02Speaker 3: their wives?
- 6:03Speaker 2: Yes, because they want to. Yes.
- 6:05Speaker 3: Very, very, very good doctor.
- 6:07Speaker 1: You're an anti-Semitic.
- 6:09Speaker 2: He also told me that was Mr. Bernstein in a
- 6:11Speaker 2: wheelchair who was 93. He told me, and why is
- 6:14Speaker 2: divorce so expensive? I said, I don't know, Mr. Bernstein.
- 6:16Speaker 2: It's worth it. It's worth it. By the way, it's funny.
- 6:19Speaker 3: I think we know the same guy. He told me
- 6:22Speaker 3: the same joke.
- 6:23Speaker 2: No, but the best one was Mrs. Heyman from Brooklyn
- 6:25Speaker 2: who told me that, hey, kid, it's no dress rehearsal.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Enjoy the visit on the planet. That's why people have
- 6:31Speaker 2: to keep listening to WABC to stay healthy. And another
- 6:34Speaker 2: fascinating study in Britain at Oxford found that if you
- 6:38Speaker 2: lower your blood pressure just by five millimeters of mercury,
- 6:42Speaker 2: that reduces your overall major cardiovascular risk.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Tell us the blood pressure, because I have one of
- 6:50Speaker 1: those blood pressure machines that I put on my wrist,
- 6:54Speaker 1: and I'm tired of them saying, you're abnormal. Okay, so
- 7:00Speaker 1: what is the ideal blood pressure? I'm over 70. What
- 7:07Speaker 1: is the ideal blood pressure?
- 7:09Speaker 2: Well, ideal is the 120 over 80. I have 120
- 7:10Speaker 2: over 65. That's really good. That's excellent. The thing is,
- 7:18Speaker 2: it's how you do it. You have to be sitting
- 7:20Speaker 2: in a chair. Your arm needs to be extended straight
- 7:23Speaker 2: out on a desk, not bent at heart level. And
- 7:26Speaker 2: then you have to keep, whenever you check your pressure,
- 7:28Speaker 2: you've got to do it in the same position. If
- 7:30Speaker 2: you have the one on the wrist and you bend
- 7:32Speaker 2: your wrist even slightly, that alters it and gives you
- 7:36Speaker 2: a falsely elevated one. But what was fascinating about this
- 7:40Speaker 2: study is that for every 5 millimeters that we kept
- 7:43Speaker 2: it closer to the normal amount, They found that it
- 7:47Speaker 2: reduced stroke by 13%, heart failure 13% less, ischemic heart
- 7:52Speaker 2: disease 8% less, and the overall death rate was 5% less.
- 7:56Speaker 2: So controlling blood pressure, and you and I have talked
- 7:59Speaker 2: about natural ways to control blood pressure too, just eating beets,
- 8:03Speaker 2: for example. Like I sometimes, if my blood pressure is
- 8:06Speaker 2: a little high and my regular medicine doesn't control it,
- 8:09Speaker 2: I just take a beet supplement, and it's fascinating. In
- 8:11Speaker 2: an hour, it drops like 10 points.
- 8:13Speaker 1: That's very true. I love these.
- 8:16Speaker 3: Doctor, we have right now medications that are widely prescribed
- 8:23Speaker 3: that are actually helping to do what like the Jeff
- 8:26Speaker 3: Bezos experiments and so on. And they're helping people to
- 8:30Speaker 3: live closer to the age of 100. Things like metformin, rapamycin.
- 8:37Speaker 3: You have all the GLP-1s now that just it seems
- 8:40Speaker 3: like almost everybody in the whole country has.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Is on.
- 8:44Speaker 3: Trump actually did something fantastic, and he put a price
- 8:49Speaker 3: limit that, what did he call that, the most favored
- 8:53Speaker 3: nation pricing onto it, as well as those SGLT2s. These
- 8:58Speaker 3: are all things that are helping Americans to live longer,
- 9:02Speaker 3: or I should say helping the world to live longer.
- 9:04Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you mentioned rapamycin. I would try to avoid
- 9:07Speaker 2: that because that is very mixed and it weakens your
- 9:10Speaker 2: immune system. So people have to be very careful. A
- 9:13Speaker 2: lot of people who are pushing rapamycin are not pushing
- 9:15Speaker 2: it as much anymore because that tends to weaken the
- 9:19Speaker 2: immune system, makes you more susceptible to infection. So I
- 9:22Speaker 2: don't think the data on rapamycin is that good. And
- 9:26Speaker 2: I personally would stay away from it. And my wife
- 9:29Speaker 2: was an anti-aging specialist who's been doing this for a
- 9:31Speaker 2: long time. It's something that you have to be very
- 9:35Speaker 2: careful of, rapamycin. But yes, metformin definitely helps control blood
- 9:40Speaker 2: glucose and controls fasting insulin levels because they found out
- 9:45Speaker 2: that fasting insulin levels, when they rise, that promotes cancer
- 9:48Speaker 2: because it pushes glucose into cells. And that's why sugar
- 9:52Speaker 2: is not good and it feeds cancer. And that's probably
- 9:55Speaker 2: how metformin works, by keeping your fasting insulin levels normal.
- 9:59Speaker 2: Because you can have a normal blood sugar and a
- 10:01Speaker 2: normal hemoglobin a1c but it's being artificially kept there by
- 10:05Speaker 2: rising fasting insulin levels and many doctors and insurance companies
- 10:09Speaker 2: won't pay for a fasting insulin blood test but that's
- 10:12Speaker 2: actually one of the key isn't.
- 10:13Speaker 3: It also true though that the metformin actually helps uh
- 10:17Speaker 3: within which to keep the amylase off the brain.
- 10:21Speaker 2: It helps a lot of different things because, again, because
- 10:24Speaker 2: they think that part of Alzheimer's is like a type
- 10:27Speaker 2: 3 diabetes and insulin resistance. So that's how it affects.
- 10:31Speaker 2: And a recent study even came out because they used
- 10:33Speaker 2: to think metformin just works in the gut. They found
- 10:35Speaker 2: it works on the hypothalamus in the brain to help
- 10:38Speaker 2: control blood sugar. So metformin has been around for 50-plus years.
- 10:43Speaker 2: It's actually based on the plant of the French lilac,
- 10:46Speaker 2: and it does– But that's why we dedicated an entire
- 10:49Speaker 2: chapter on a new book coming out next week called
- 10:52Speaker 2: The Death of Aging, 522 pages, summarizing all the literature
- 10:56Speaker 2: from around the world on all these different topics we
- 10:59Speaker 2: just mentioned. But staying healthy is very important. We're also
- 11:03Speaker 2: going to hear now because of the administration now they're
- 11:06Speaker 2: allowing stem cells. It's public information in Vanity Fair that
- 11:10Speaker 2: Secretary Kennedy received stem cells to help him with his
- 11:14Speaker 2: voice situation. And that was done by Dr.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Chadwick Padromos.
- 11:17Speaker 2: He sounds a lot better. Yeah, Dr. Chadwick Padromos treated him,
- 11:21Speaker 2: and he did very well. And now they're starting to
- 11:23Speaker 2: allow one of the greatest stem cell scientists called Bob Hariri,
- 11:27Speaker 2: who's an MD, PhD, who trained at Cornell, who has
- 11:32Speaker 2: a company called Cellularity. They're using stem cells, and they
- 11:36Speaker 2: collect them. For example, when you have a child, they
- 11:38Speaker 2: save the placenta and the umbilical cord. And those are, again,
- 11:41Speaker 2: the stem cells are your natural repair cells. and you
- 11:44Speaker 2: save them, and they're giving it to people for various conditions,
- 11:48Speaker 2: and they're helping them, and we're learning more about that,
- 11:52Speaker 2: and we're going to be hearing and allowing more of
- 11:54Speaker 2: that in the United States. Now people have to fly
- 11:57Speaker 2: off to other countries to get those things, but now
- 12:00Speaker 2: because of Operation Warp Speed, it's amazing the access that
- 12:04Speaker 2: people have to these medications. And as Mr. Cohn was
- 12:07Speaker 2: referring to, what they did with the price controls on medicines,
- 12:11Speaker 2: like there's a medicine called PSK9 inhibitors for cholesterol. They
- 12:15Speaker 2: actually reverse blockages. So that's amazing. A Cleveland Clinic study
- 12:19Speaker 2: showed that. A Cedars-Sinai in California showed that. It's another
- 12:23Speaker 2: class of an injectable drug. cholesterol medicine. They even have
- 12:27Speaker 2: ones that are just twice a year and once a
- 12:29Speaker 2: year and a lot of the early work.
- 12:31Speaker 1: Medicine at warp speed. Dr. Peter, thank you for coming
- 12:34Speaker 1: on and I want to have a one hour special
- 12:37Speaker 1: just talking about your book and we'll do that soon. Dr. Peter,
- 12:42Speaker 1: keep going. Live long and prosper. I'll meet you at
- 12:45Speaker 1: the age of 100.
- 12:47Speaker 2: Thank you, John. Think positive and test negative and keep
- 12:50Speaker 2: listening to the great WABC.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
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