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Full Show Podcast: 05 February 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues these abuse and the inside. Andrew Dickens on
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Speaker 1: early edition with one roof make your property search simple,
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Speaker 2: It'd be very good and very warm morning to you.
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Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickens in for Ryan Bridge. Welcome to your Wednesday.
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Speaker 2: Coming up over the next hour, unemployment is about to
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Speaker 2: hit a four year high, So who's getting hit the hardest.
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Speaker 2: We'll have that story for you in five minutes time.
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Speaker 2: It's white tonguey day Eve. Is that a word? Is
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Speaker 2: that a thing? White tonguey day Eve? It's white tonguey
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Speaker 2: day Eve. What is happening up north? Our reporter Sophie
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Speaker 2: Trigger reports on the celebrations so far and what might
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Speaker 2: happen tomorrow. And it's time to tie home on kang
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Speaker 2: Order as the Housing agency gets into financial strife. So
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Speaker 2: what does Kieren mcinnaughty make of the government's plans. He's
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Speaker 2: just before six o'clock this morning. We'll have correspondence from
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Speaker 2: right around the world and New Zealand news as it breaks,
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Speaker 2: and you can contribute by texting ninety two ninety two
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Speaker 2: or small charge applies, or email Amy Dickens at Newstalk
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Speaker 2: ZEBB dot co dot nz. It's seven after five.
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Speaker 1: The agenda, Well, it's when's the.
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Speaker 2: Fifth of February. Why Tony Day Eve To Sweden, at
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Speaker 2: least five people have been shot at a school for
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Speaker 2: adults in that country. Four of them have undergone surgery
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Speaker 2: in hospital. One is critically injured. Police say one of
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Speaker 2: the people in hospital is thought to be the perpetrator.
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Speaker 3: One of the teachers who was in her study. She
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Speaker 3: has been quoted saying that she heard about ten sholtz,
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Speaker 3: so five shorts and then a pause, and then five
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Speaker 3: more shorts. And Swedish police and Swedish media are saying
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Speaker 3: that this is a very serious situation.
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Speaker 2: Two the trade wars, and China has hit back at
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Speaker 2: the United States as Donald Trump's ten percent tariffs on
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Speaker 2: all exports kick in today. Beijing has introduced a number
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Speaker 2: of fifteen percent tariffs and ten percent tariffs on all
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Speaker 2: sorts of things like imported coal, gas, and vehicles and machinery,
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Speaker 2: and the country's anti monopoly watchdog has launched an investigation
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Speaker 2: into Google.
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Speaker 4: They've got a wider set of tools available for retaliation,
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Speaker 4: and they seem to believe that they're going to be
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Speaker 4: able to respond quickly, and that China has the ability
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Speaker 4: to endure more pain as well. And so China is
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Speaker 4: quite serious in this as both China and the US
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Speaker 4: pasture themselves for what are going to be very serious negotiations.
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Speaker 2: And Donald Trump has scheduled a phone call with Chinese
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Speaker 2: leader Jijimping and he's going to do that later this week.
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Speaker 2: And that's not the only key meeting for Trump. He's
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Speaker 2: expected to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today.
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Speaker 2: This comes at a crucial time during the seas fire
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Speaker 2: deal between Israel and Hamas.
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Speaker 5: It's critical in terms of discussion in Gaza, in terms
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Speaker 5: of the hostage, in terms of the public opinions in
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Speaker 5: favor of the ostygen and in terms of the political
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Speaker 5: concerning is well, and in terms of the bigger picture
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Speaker 5: in the Middle East concerning the Trump's vision.
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Speaker 2: And back home. Real estate agent Janet Dixon has been
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Speaker 2: left with her thirty year career in limbo at Dixon's
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Speaker 2: real estate license was put on the line. That was
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Speaker 2: because she refused to take a compulsory Tikanga Maori course. Yesterday,
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Speaker 2: the High Court ruled the real estate agent's authority were
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Speaker 2: well within their rights to make it compulsory and Janet
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Speaker 2: Dixon is on the radio with Mike Hosking just after
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Speaker 2: seven o'clock this morning, It's ten after five The.
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Speaker 1: News you Need this Morning and the in Depth Analysis
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Speaker 1: Early Edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your
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Speaker 1: Property Search Simple, News Talk Zippy.
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Speaker 2: So it's back. The White Tonguy Amateur Dramatics Association is
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Speaker 2: presenting their twenty twenty five production of White Tonguey, The
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Speaker 2: Fury and the Flounds. It's the one hundred and eighty
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Speaker 2: fifth anniversary edition. This year promised us even more of
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Speaker 2: the highlights we've come to expect, hot air, overacting, the
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Speaker 2: odd scuffle, a nation load of posturing and of course
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Speaker 2: the ever popular flounce by the Prime Minister. This year.
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Speaker 2: You know, every year it's the same. We get a
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Speaker 2: new batch of politicians at a new batch of ewe
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Speaker 2: and yet somehow nothing changes. Someone's going to get excited,
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Speaker 2: someone's going to yell far too close to someone else's face.
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Speaker 2: Some mud or some underpants or maybe another sex toy
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Speaker 2: might be lobbed unconvincingly and with poor Amatt's somebody Maori
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Speaker 2: will carry their flags from to Tea over the bridge
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Speaker 2: and up to the treaty grounds, and they may even
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Speaker 2: chant a little unless it's too hot. Meanwhile, kids will
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Speaker 2: be doing Manu's in the background off the bridge. Then
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Speaker 2: people will phone talk back and say it's a disgrace
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Speaker 2: and it's not my national day and never will be.
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Speaker 2: And you know they've never been there and never will
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Speaker 2: and therefore they will never really know. The whole thing
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Speaker 2: is a fast, a gentle face, the same script every year.
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Speaker 2: It's not really a hotbed of controversy, no matter how
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Speaker 2: the media chooses to report it. The players will over
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Speaker 2: remote because they know a camera is near. You know,
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Speaker 2: I never believed Helen Clark's tears because she couldn't speak,
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Speaker 2: because she's a tougher old bird than that. The meeting
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Speaker 2: of the clans, both Maori and Crown, is always full
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Speaker 2: of civility, really and old fashioned speechification, but nothing rarely
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Speaker 2: gets discussed White Tonguey on its day. Everybody is too
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Speaker 2: busy socializing and posturing and wearing too many clothes and
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Speaker 2: the sweltering heat, and we all know the real corddo
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Speaker 2: happens elsewhere, and the real stuff happens in private. White
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Speaker 2: Tonguey Day is for show. And if you actually go,
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Speaker 2: you'll see it is a good show, full of emotions
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Speaker 2: of a nation and some amazing tableaus. We saw one yesterday,
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Speaker 2: the arrival of the Maori Queen. We'll see the dawn.
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Speaker 2: We'll see the images of armed forces by the flag staff,
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Speaker 2: the navy and the harbor, the workers paddling their way
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Speaker 2: across the Russell Foreshore, and we'll see Maori har rump
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Speaker 2: thing outside a meeting house. And you know, I think
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Speaker 2: it's a good show because it's.
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Speaker 1: Our show, Andrew Dickens.
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Speaker 2: So I've got some proof here that Wellington's doing it tough.
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Speaker 2: The Wellington City Rtable valuations have come out and on
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Speaker 2: average house values have plummeted twenty four point four percent
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Speaker 2: since twenty twenty one. It's a quarter capital values have
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Speaker 2: fallen across every suburb, some at twelve point one percent,
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Speaker 2: some at twenty nine point three percent. It's a heartbreak
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Speaker 2: for a house owner. The average house value is now
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Speaker 2: sitting at just over one million. QV says it's because
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Speaker 2: of the economic headwinds that have been buffeting the city
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Speaker 2: and with such a big drop in values, Wellingtonians will
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Speaker 2: be happy or will be hoping for a silver lining.
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Speaker 2: They'll be hoping for a decrease in rates, but dream on.
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Speaker 2: The values only determine the percentage of the rate bill
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Speaker 2: that the property owner needs to pay, so it will
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Speaker 2: make little difference. It's still going to get stung. In fact,
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Speaker 2: some of the suburbs that have not fallen as much
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Speaker 2: or see a rate rise. Merry Christmas, So to lose
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Speaker 2: lose for Wellington this morning, I'm sorry, hold on, hang
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Speaker 2: in there. Meanwhile, Auckland valuations will not be released until
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Speaker 2: sometime in May at the earliest, after being delayed. They're
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Speaker 2: expected to show little movement from the last valuations in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. So it's five thirteen and we'll talk
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Speaker 2: unemployment in a few moments time. We've got the senior
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Speaker 2: economists from the ASB with us. The data comes out
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Speaker 2: today and we're expecting it to head a four year high.
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the number five. That's next. News Talks ab.
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Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens
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Speaker 1: a B.
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Speaker 2: Five sixteen on a Wednesday, and unemployment is expected to
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Speaker 2: hit a four year high for the end of last year.
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Speaker 2: This morning will be the last major data release before
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Speaker 2: the OCR decision that's coming out on February the nineteenth.
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Speaker 2: The Reserve Bank is forecasting the unemployment rate to rise
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Speaker 2: from four point eight percent to five point one percent.
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Speaker 2: So I'm joined now by senior economists at the ASB
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Speaker 2: Marx Smith. Goodbrding to you, Mark, good morning. Do you
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Speaker 2: reckon it's a five in?
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Speaker 6: It could well be. There is a lot of variability
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Speaker 6: in the numbers, obviously, but what we do know is
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Speaker 6: that the economy has gone through a concerted downturn and
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Speaker 6: the labor market tempts to follow.
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Speaker 2: Is this just because of the public sector carts or
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Speaker 2: is this happening across the board?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a lot more broad based than that. But
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Speaker 6: obviously Willington will be a you've been feeling the pain,
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Speaker 6: but there are other regions and other groups as well
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Speaker 6: that will be also feeling the front of this.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So who's hit hardest, who's not getting the jobs?
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Speaker 6: When you look at the unemployment rates, really the pickups
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Speaker 6: that have been very sizeable for the younger age groups
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Speaker 6: that the young cohorts. So essentially what happens is really
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Speaker 6: the last ones into the labor market typically the first
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Speaker 6: ones out. So really those groups, and you're looking at
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Speaker 6: some effort groups, particularly Pacific Islands and audi as well,
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Speaker 6: they really start to feel the bunt from this downtown.
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Speaker 2: What could this do to wage pressure?
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Speaker 6: What we have been seeing is that wage pressures have
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Speaker 6: been really calling the economy. To give me an idea
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Speaker 6: of what's been happening, the economy is likely to loser
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Speaker 6: net thirty thousand jobs over last year. So as the
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Speaker 6: economy is slowed, the demand of labor is called, and
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Speaker 6: lobor demand of labor typically means much core will increase
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Speaker 6: some wages, and that combined with lower inflation, we'll see
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Speaker 6: those increases in wages really shrink from the higher by
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Speaker 6: six percent to probably under three percent by the end
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Speaker 6: of the year, and a lot that really means prescius
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Speaker 6: is on inflation. They're likely to call and I'll be
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Speaker 6: encouraging from an inflation point of view.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're waking up and well into this
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Speaker 2: morning and I've just told you about your your rateable
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Speaker 2: values falling by a quarter, and now you're hearing that
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Speaker 2: unemployment's bad in that area, tell me, is there any
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Speaker 2: region that is actually getting good news?
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Speaker 7: Probably?
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Speaker 6: Typically though I think really what we're seeing is a
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Speaker 6: pronounced downturn throughout the economy, but there are some bright
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Speaker 6: spots within that. There are some areas tipping in provincial
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Speaker 6: areas where where commodity prices have been strong, produced for
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Speaker 6: terms have been good. But as I said, there are
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Speaker 6: some reasons such as Willington, for example, where the downtown
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Speaker 6: has really been the most acut Well.
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Speaker 2: All remark, I think you for your time today, senior
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Speaker 2: economists at the ASB Marksmith those figures out later today
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Speaker 2: it is five eighteen. You can text on ninety two
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Speaker 2: ninety two. Someone says you're right, White Tonguey Day is
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Speaker 2: pure BS. Something for the media. Really, Now we just
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Speaker 2: go up there and have a look. Really, the real people,
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Speaker 2: the decent people, ignore it and get on with your lives.
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Speaker 2: Oh I take it from that you're not taking the holiday.
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Speaker 2: Then you'll keep working worrying about the productivity. Now you
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Speaker 2: can keep on texting me ninety two ninety two, but
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Speaker 2: next we will go to White Tonguey. Sophie Trigger is
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Speaker 2: our reporter and she's standing by. It is five nineteen.
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Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio. Earlier this year
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Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickens and one roof make your property search
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Speaker 1: simple if you talk.
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Speaker 3: Said the.
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Speaker 2: Grunts just texted me and said no holiday on the
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Speaker 2: farm here and I will not be watching that show either.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for your text. Christopher Luxan going to Akaroa.
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Speaker 2: Some people say that's a snub against Maldi. I think
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Speaker 2: it's a bit broader than that. More on that in
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Speaker 2: just a few moments time. But of course the white
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Speaker 2: tonguey commemorations have started. Remember it's a week long thing.
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Speaker 2: It's not just one day. They've already started that doing it. Politicians, ee,
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Speaker 2: leaders and far no that there already. They've been arriving
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Speaker 2: ahead of the big day on Thursday tomorrow, news talks
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Speaker 2: here be. Political reporter Sophie Trigger has made the trip
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Speaker 2: up north and joins me.
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Speaker 8: Now, Hello Sophie, Good morning Andrew. How are you good?
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Speaker 2: First time or what second time?
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Speaker 8: Actually, Andrew, I was up here last year as well.
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Speaker 2: I was watching the Telly last night. I have to
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Speaker 2: say the arrival of the Maori Queen was quite some pedgeant.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, hundreds turned out to watch Andrew and the porpity.
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Speaker 8: Yesterday welcomed the king Etang king e tongue, including the
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Speaker 8: new monarch naw Way honod It's A paul It was
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Speaker 8: her first white tonguey as the Mahdi Queen after the
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Speaker 8: passing of her father, King tu Hatia last year. And
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Speaker 8: also in the contingent was to Patimari, which arrived as
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Speaker 8: part of the King E Tangua porphyy this year as
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Speaker 8: it did last year, really consolidating that public relationship between
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Speaker 8: to Patimari and the King Etangua ahead of the rest
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Speaker 8: of the politicians arriving on the treaty grounds later this morning. Yesterday,
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Speaker 8: we also had a number of other groups welcomed in
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Speaker 8: a separate porpity in the morning, which included the White
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Speaker 8: Tongue Tribunal, local Government New Zealand, the judiciary, and the
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Speaker 8: Diplomatic Corps, the head of which is Mexican Ambassador Alfredo
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Speaker 8: Perez Bravo, who you may have seen in the news
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Speaker 8: a bit over the past week.
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Speaker 2: Yes, he met with Winston Peters. They had lunch. Now
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Speaker 2: I'm sure they got on because you can't have lunch
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Speaker 2: with Winston Peters to not have a good time.
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Speaker 8: Well, a meeting took place yesterday, that's correct, between Winston
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Speaker 8: Peters and the Mexican ambassador. So this follows, of course,
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Speaker 8: comments made in the House last week by Peter's own colleague,
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Speaker 8: Minister Shane Jones, who called out send the Mexicans home,
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Speaker 8: directed towards Green MP's and it was described as xenophobic
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Speaker 8: and racist by the Green Party. So after this comment,
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Speaker 8: the Mexican Embassy confirmed it was following up on the
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Speaker 8: matter through diplomatic channels. Now, Alfredo Prez Bravo, as the
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Speaker 8: dean of the Diplomatic Corps, was part of this contingent
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Speaker 8: welcomed onto the grounds yesterday and we spoke to the
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Speaker 8: ambassador after the porpity and he confirmed he was meeting
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Speaker 8: with Peter soon, but wouldn't really comment further on the
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Speaker 8: matter at all. He didn't say whether he would raise
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Speaker 8: the issue with Peters, but said that the interaction would
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Speaker 8: be friendly. So we don't yet know what exactly took
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Speaker 8: place in the meeting, but as you say, Peters has
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Speaker 8: shared a picture of the two of them yesterday, so
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Speaker 8: we'll have to wait to speak to him to find
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Speaker 8: out sort of what happens, if there were apologies offered,
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Speaker 8: if there was any sort of resolution to that.
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Speaker 2: So I called this day White Tongy Eve as the
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Speaker 2: day before.
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Speaker 8: What's happening today, Yeah, so this morning we will have
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Speaker 8: all parties, that's except for Tapatimari, which arrived yesterday welcomed
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Speaker 8: onto the treaty grounds. Last year we had a separate
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Speaker 8: poor forty for government and opposition, but today they will
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Speaker 8: all be arriving side by side. Of course, a notable
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Speaker 8: absence is the Prime Minister Chris Luxon. He'll be in
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Speaker 8: the South Island ahead of spending White Tangi in Akaroa,
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Speaker 8: but will no doubt hear from him at some point
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Speaker 8: today as well. And considering the Treaty Principles Bill is
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Speaker 8: such a live issue oral submissions beginning at Select Committee
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Speaker 8: last week, it is expected to result in some heated
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Speaker 8: cotit or tomorrow in today sorry, in the speeches from
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Speaker 8: both sides. It's also brought large numbers of people to
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Speaker 8: Wheitangi again this year. White Tangi leader's estimate it could
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Speaker 8: be the same size or even bigger than last year.
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Speaker 8: And I've spoken to token some people who were attending
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Speaker 8: White Tangi for the first time for the reason of
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Speaker 8: protecting tatidity. So today is going to bring actually to
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Speaker 8: David Seymour face to face with some of these critics
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Speaker 8: for the first time this year, considering it wasn't at
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Speaker 8: the last. And there are a couple of weeks ago
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Speaker 8: another forum in which the government can hear from MARDI
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Speaker 8: and EWE leaders on these issues. We are also expecting
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Speaker 8: the arrival of a toy to tatidity protest on the
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Speaker 8: Treaty grounds, so thousands are expected to be part of that.
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Speaker 8: And that's the group behind last year's massive hikois to
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Speaker 8: Parliament in no Zemba.
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Speaker 2: Very good, Sophie, enjoy the day and I thank you.
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Speaker 2: It is five twenty five the early.
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Speaker 2: Talks It be new Talk Shibby. It is five twenty seven.
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Speaker 2: So it is the week of White Tonguey and this
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Speaker 2: week it's been the perennial should he or shouldn't he
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Speaker 2: go debate about the Prime Minister. Now, personally, I've always
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Speaker 2: said this, I'd always go to White Tonguey if I
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Speaker 2: were the PM, even if it was just for one
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Speaker 2: of the days of the ceremonies. I mean, the air
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Speaker 2: force is not the strongest, but the air Force is
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Speaker 2: perfectly capable of getting him to both white tonguey and
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Speaker 2: akoror if he really wanted to. And it's said that
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Speaker 2: his non attendance is a snub of MILDI, but I
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Speaker 2: think there's another way of looking at it. He could
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Speaker 2: be staying away because he doesn't want to ruffle Maldi feathers.
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Speaker 2: He has publicly said repeatedly that the treaty principal's actor
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Speaker 2: is going nowhere, So why go somewhere where he'll get
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Speaker 2: the heat for something he's never intended to do. David
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Speaker 2: Seymour can go and he is. It's David's baby, and
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Speaker 2: he's more than happy to stand it. He'll take the
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Speaker 2: heat and he'll give it back. But our Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: doesn't want to go somewhere where he'll be yelled at
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Speaker 2: for something he will not do. So maybe this isn't
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Speaker 2: a snub of Mari as such, but perhaps one of
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Speaker 2: his right wing supporters and don't suit the messenger. I've
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Speaker 2: been looking at right wing discussion groups and check groups.
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Speaker 2: They are getting increasingly vocal that they've been sold a
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Speaker 2: damp squib, that the Prime Minister is no different to
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Speaker 2: the other mob, that he's a liberal and he's a
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Speaker 2: globalist and a mari apologist and worst of all, a
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Speaker 2: man without a plan. His weekly media around is becoming
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Speaker 2: increasingly fractious, all sides demanding that he actually do something
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Speaker 2: more than cutting all the spending. Just take a listen
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Speaker 2: to the Mike Hosking podcast from yesterday and see if
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Speaker 2: he answers stuff. Questions about policy is being answered repeatedly
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Speaker 2: with we're looking at that down the track, which is
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Speaker 2: this year's version of working groups and announcements of announcements.
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Speaker 2: So anyway, hopefully Christopher Luxon has a pleasant time at
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Speaker 2: Akaroa Harbor because that's the way he likes it. He
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Speaker 2: likes a nice, quiet, deferential crowd who loves the Prime
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Speaker 2: minister because he's just the Prime Minister. So it's five
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Speaker 2: twenty nine. We're going to talk or Aura over the
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Speaker 2: next half hour with kra Mconnulty. They're in financial strife.
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Speaker 2: They need to have a cup of tea. More on this.
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Speaker 2: Just before six, we're off to the UK with our
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Speaker 2: international correspondent said, we'll have correspondents from right around New Zealand.
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Speaker 2: My name is Andrew Dickens in for Ryan Bridge. Good
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Speaker 2: morning to.
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Speaker 9: You, benet to the.
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Speaker 1: News and Views You Trust to start your day in
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Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and One roof Make your
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Speaker 1: Property search Simple. You talk sidy.
17:48
Speaker 2: Because I told Joby good morning to you. I'm Andrew Dickens.
17:59
Speaker 2: It's Wednesday. Tomorrow is a holiday. It's our national day.
18:02
Speaker 2: But some people don't say that.
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Speaker 10: Hey.
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Speaker 2: Look, there's a British bloke who ran the entire length
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Speaker 2: of Africa. He's announced his next challenge. He wants to
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Speaker 2: come to New Zealand and run the full length of
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Speaker 2: this country. His nickname is the Hardest Geezer. His real
18:16
Speaker 2: name is Russ Cook. We'll talk about him with Gavin
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Speaker 2: Gray in a few moments time. So if you're traveling
18:19
Speaker 2: an Orclands on the motorway, you might have noticed a
18:21
Speaker 2: giant white building rising beside the motorway at Manco City.
18:25
Speaker 2: It's enormous. It's monolithic, it's gleaming white. It's got this
18:29
Speaker 2: huge soaring spy. It's huge. It's so big. When I
18:33
Speaker 2: saw it, I thought that looks like the Battersea Power
18:34
Speaker 2: Station after a makeover. So this thing is the new
18:38
Speaker 2: Temple of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.
18:40
Speaker 2: Otherwise known as the Mormons, and it's very imposing indeed,
18:43
Speaker 2: and if you've been curious as to what might be inside,
18:45
Speaker 2: well they're having an open month from the twenty seventh
18:48
Speaker 2: of February into the twenty second of March. You can
18:50
Speaker 2: go visit the church during the day. You can't go
18:52
Speaker 2: on Sundays. And there's this church has that epic European
18:57
Speaker 2: church feel to it, like tourists might want to go,
18:59
Speaker 2: and I'm sure that there'll be met people wanting to
19:00
Speaker 2: visit just to see if the inside matches the out
19:04
Speaker 2: and whether they could be tom cruise. Meanwhile, kang or Aura,
19:08
Speaker 2: this is a big story. It's getting a budgetary haircut.
19:11
Speaker 2: Both the chairmen and the CEO and the government said
19:13
Speaker 2: yesterday the agency is in financial strife. So it's a
19:16
Speaker 2: back to basics approach with plans cut and a focus
19:18
Speaker 2: of managing the properties and the tenants. So why is
19:21
Speaker 2: ko and strife, Well, it went too hard. They saw
19:25
Speaker 2: significant growth over the past five years, delivering thirteen thousand
19:28
Speaker 2: new homes and refurbishing three thousand, four hundred because the
19:31
Speaker 2: last government believed we didn't have enough houses so much
19:34
Speaker 2: so they started getting into schemes and the whole keyw
19:36
Speaker 2: we build Fiesco and there were building state houses. They
19:38
Speaker 2: allowed construction costs to climb markedly against market rates while
19:42
Speaker 2: all the time building like billy.
19:44
Speaker 5: Oh.
19:44
Speaker 2: And so the whole thing was, according to the chairman
19:46
Speaker 2: and the CEO and the government, unsustainable. So it's time
19:50
Speaker 2: for a cup of tea. And you have to wonder
19:52
Speaker 2: if they were still in charge with the label we'll
19:54
Speaker 2: be doing the same thing now. We'll find that out
19:56
Speaker 2: with Kieren McNulty who's about ten minutes away. It is
20:00
Speaker 2: twenty one.
20:01
Speaker 1: To six Andrew Dickens.
20:03
Speaker 2: So around the country we go. Callum Proctor joins us
20:06
Speaker 2: from Dunedin. Good morning to you. Callum No, Kellum, there's
20:13
Speaker 2: Callum here.
20:14
Speaker 11: You got me there?
20:14
Speaker 2: Good morning yeah, well a lovely voice. You should be
20:18
Speaker 2: in radio. The return of the world's Fastest Indian, the
20:21
Speaker 2: Bert Monroe Challenge is back.
20:23
Speaker 11: It is back for its eighteenth year, with events kicking
20:26
Speaker 11: off today running through to Sunday. Look, this is huge,
20:29
Speaker 11: attracts thousands of motorcycle enthusiasts to in for cargol both
20:33
Speaker 11: riders and spectators. It said to be the largest motorcycle
20:36
Speaker 11: rally in the Southern Hemisphere. In fact, one of the
20:39
Speaker 11: more popular events is the beach racing. It's Friday afternoon
20:42
Speaker 11: at Oriti Beach that draws a big crowd given that
20:45
Speaker 11: you can't normally race there, and is also the racing
20:48
Speaker 11: at Taratong all weekend South and Police Andrews say they'll
20:51
Speaker 11: be highly visible over coming days to deal with the
20:54
Speaker 11: influx of visitors. And how's the weather good friend for
20:57
Speaker 11: cargol fine twenty four Dunedin's fine and twenty two today
21:00
Speaker 11: great stuff.
21:01
Speaker 2: We're going to crash now, Thomas Race. Good morning here morning.
21:04
Speaker 2: Tell me about christ Church's quality of life?
21:06
Speaker 10: Yes, so, Christchurchers has done their latest quality of life survey.
21:10
Speaker 10: Eighty percent of residents are enjoying their life in the
21:12
Speaker 10: Gardens city and that's pretty in line with the previous
21:15
Speaker 10: year's results. The amount of people who believe their equality
21:18
Speaker 10: life has improved in the last year has increased seven
21:20
Speaker 10: percent and that's up to slightly more than a quarter
21:22
Speaker 10: of residents. But those feeling a sense of community in
21:26
Speaker 10: the neighborhood though, has dipped to forty percent and that's
21:29
Speaker 10: just below the national average. And the confidence in the
21:31
Speaker 10: city Council remains low. Only thirty eight percent, having believing
21:35
Speaker 10: it makes decisions in christ Church's best interests.
21:38
Speaker 2: How's the weather not too bad?
21:40
Speaker 10: Bit of cloud clearing and becoming fined in the morning,
21:42
Speaker 10: but that will return later tonight. Northeasterlies easing in the evening,
21:46
Speaker 10: high of twenty one.
21:47
Speaker 2: Good stuff, that's a positive and the quality of life
21:49
Speaker 2: Max told joins us from Wellington. Hello Max, good morning.
21:53
Speaker 2: I'm sorry your house prices have plummeted.
21:56
Speaker 12: Well I don't own a home, so it's not too
21:59
Speaker 12: bad for me. Just massive, massive drops though in value
22:02
Speaker 12: across the region. This is the front page of the
22:04
Speaker 12: Herald this morning as well. We were so high in
22:06
Speaker 12: twenty twenty one at the peak for sellers. You might
22:09
Speaker 12: say that a drop probably felt inevitable at the next
22:13
Speaker 12: count but this is still just really bad news for
22:15
Speaker 12: homeowners in Wellington. Obviously, the city's economic struggles have been noted.
22:19
Speaker 12: What you're looking at is values falling in every single
22:22
Speaker 12: suburb from between twelve to thirty percent, the overall average
22:26
Speaker 12: decline twenty one percent. Owners are going to be able
22:29
Speaker 12: to assess the damage today on the qv website, as
22:32
Speaker 12: well as rating valuations on the City Council's online property search.
22:36
Speaker 12: This doesn't necessarily affect rates and market value in the
22:40
Speaker 12: same way. The sale price doesn't just plummet by the
22:43
Speaker 12: same degree overnight, but clearly a buyer's market now in Wellington.
22:48
Speaker 2: And how's the weather if you're buying fine light winds
22:51
Speaker 2: twenty one central? How lovely? Meva Writtamandage joins me from
22:55
Speaker 2: Auckland Heillo Greetings. Okay, we've been looking at the coffee
22:58
Speaker 2: habits of people who work at CBD.
23:00
Speaker 13: That's right, Auckland CBD workers. Now, well this comes any
23:04
Speaker 13: surprise to you, so JLL that's the leasing company. Chris
23:07
Speaker 13: Dibble from there. He's looked at Google popularity data of
23:10
Speaker 13: twenty two cafes in the city center discovered will this
23:14
Speaker 13: come as a shock?
23:15
Speaker 2: Thursday?
23:16
Speaker 13: Thursday is the most popular day for coffee overall. Now
23:19
Speaker 13: this was followed closely by Wednesday and Friday, so that
23:23
Speaker 13: leaves Monday and Tuesday usually quieter. So we can probably
23:26
Speaker 13: tell you that the popularity of Thursday from eleven am
23:30
Speaker 13: probably because people are going out for mid morning team
23:32
Speaker 13: or client meetings. And then obviously in the week Monday Tuesday,
23:37
Speaker 13: where it's really quiet, people are probably working from home.
23:40
Speaker 2: So the biggest story out of Auckland is coffee?
23:42
Speaker 1: Correct?
23:43
Speaker 13: Can I just say that that's what we've been talking
23:45
Speaker 13: about in the cart. Do you drink coffee?
23:48
Speaker 14: Yeah?
23:48
Speaker 2: How do you function it?
23:49
Speaker 13: Right?
23:50
Speaker 10: So?
23:50
Speaker 13: What is that? Is that from your Instah?
23:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm making instant commercial radio. I'm drink instant coffee.
23:58
Speaker 9: Really.
23:58
Speaker 2: How's o weather? How's our weather?
24:00
Speaker 14: Fine?
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Speaker 13: Cloud increasing from a late afternoon not a good day
24:03
Speaker 13: to drink instant coffee.
24:05
Speaker 2: High of twenty five, seventeen to six, and we've got
24:07
Speaker 2: Devin Gray here, will be looking at the situation in Sweden.
24:10
Speaker 2: There's five people have been shot. We'll talk about that.
24:12
Speaker 2: And the man who wants to run the length of
24:13
Speaker 2: New Zealand and yes, I'm sorry, Tom Cruise was a scientologist,
24:16
Speaker 2: not a Mormon.
24:19
Speaker 1: Seventeen to six International correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance,
24:23
Speaker 1: Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business.
24:28
Speaker 2: Well, this is dramatic. It is fifteen to six, and
24:30
Speaker 2: we have a few communication difficulties with Gavin Gray and
24:33
Speaker 2: the UK. But now can I say good morning.
24:35
Speaker 14: Gav, Good morning there Andrew.
24:38
Speaker 2: Magnificent loving it. Five people shot at a school in
24:40
Speaker 2: central Sweden.
24:42
Speaker 14: Yeah, and at the moment, we're still being told this
24:46
Speaker 14: is a sort of active scene. It's at a small
24:49
Speaker 14: town about two hundred kilometers west of the capitals dot Com.
24:53
Speaker 14: It happened at lunchtime. Five people shot at an education
24:57
Speaker 14: center and the police are telling people to stay away
25:01
Speaker 14: until they believe the danger to be over. So at
25:03
Speaker 14: the moment, all we understand is that all of those
25:06
Speaker 14: who have been injured have been taken to hospital, four
25:08
Speaker 14: have undergone operations for their injuries and one is critically injured. Normally,
25:14
Speaker 14: Sweden is a pretty quiet and peaceful place, but a
25:17
Speaker 14: massive gun crime like this well is certainly a shock.
25:21
Speaker 2: Tell me about the Hardest Gezer. You gotta love this guy.
25:26
Speaker 14: So this guy is a British endurance walker marathon runner.
25:32
Speaker 14: You might say, he ran successfully the entire length of
25:35
Speaker 14: Africa and now he's going to run the entire length
25:39
Speaker 14: of New Zealand. Russell Cook is his name. He's nicknamed
25:42
Speaker 14: the Hardest Geezer and he completed that challenge through Africa
25:46
Speaker 14: in April of last year, taking almost an entire year. Now,
25:50
Speaker 14: the twenty seven year old from worthing Down on the
25:52
Speaker 14: south coast of England is to run three thousand kilometers
25:56
Speaker 14: that'll see him take on sixty ultramarathons while navigating mountains, forests,
26:01
Speaker 14: coastline cities, you name it, he said, New Zealand this summer.
26:05
Speaker 14: I've always wanted to go. It's the adventure capital of
26:08
Speaker 14: the world. It's going to be brutal on my legs.
26:10
Speaker 14: I've never done anything before. And well, he expects that
26:14
Speaker 14: ninety four hundred and forty elevation part of the journey
26:18
Speaker 14: to be the most challenging. Suffice to say, it isn't
26:21
Speaker 14: all going to be hard work. During the challenge, he
26:23
Speaker 14: wants to bungee jump off Auckland harbor Bridge Canyon, swing
26:26
Speaker 14: in Queenston, and skydive in abel Tasman.
26:29
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know if you realize it's just quite
26:31
Speaker 2: hell hilly we are. But good luck to him. And
26:34
Speaker 2: I noticed that you didn't actually have a crack at
26:36
Speaker 2: the Maldi name for our trail. Do you want to
26:38
Speaker 2: have a crek or not?
26:39
Speaker 10: Ha ha.
26:40
Speaker 14: I was worried you're going to ask that, Okay, taya rara.
26:44
Speaker 2: To aor Oh it's all right, mate, don't you worry
26:48
Speaker 2: about a thing. Kevin Gray from the UK. It is
26:50
Speaker 2: now twelve minutes to six. Okay, kanga AA has come
26:57
Speaker 2: up with a new plan to help save the agency.
26:59
Speaker 2: The Turnaroud plan will refocus on getting back to basics.
27:02
Speaker 2: They will still build and manage social housing by selling
27:05
Speaker 2: nine hundred homes a year that are no longer fit
27:08
Speaker 2: for purpose and renewing older homes that needs And they
27:12
Speaker 2: say the number of state homes will not change, but
27:14
Speaker 2: then again, nor will they increase. And under the plan,
27:17
Speaker 2: debt is forecast to be one point eight billion dollars
27:20
Speaker 2: lower in twenty seven to twenty eight compared to the
27:23
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three forecasts of a couple of years ago.
27:26
Speaker 2: So Labor Housing spokesperson Karen mcinnaughty is with it now, hallikiereno.
27:32
Speaker 2: Oh sorry I double clicked hallakieren good morning. So the
27:38
Speaker 2: government and the chairman and the CEO says that the
27:41
Speaker 2: refocus is necessary because the agency is in financial strife.
27:45
Speaker 2: Do you agree and do you agree that something had
27:47
Speaker 2: to change?
27:49
Speaker 10: No?
27:49
Speaker 15: I don't agree, And I'm quite perplexed that the minister
27:54
Speaker 15: will stand up and celebrate this as a success when
27:57
Speaker 15: the need for social houses continue to grow. Oh, the
28:00
Speaker 15: housing crisis committed to get worse and his solution seems
28:03
Speaker 15: to be not building houses.
28:06
Speaker 2: But yes, the chairman and the CEO also said there
28:09
Speaker 2: was financial strife and you can't build houses if you
28:11
Speaker 2: don't have money.
28:13
Speaker 15: Well, actually the same bloke said in front of the
28:16
Speaker 15: Select Committee of Parliament that any organization with their level
28:21
Speaker 15: of assets would be quite comfortable.
28:23
Speaker 7: With the ratio of debt that they hold. The Chairman
28:26
Speaker 7: and the CEO are doing what the government ask that's
28:28
Speaker 7: what they do. The Minister has made it quite clear
28:31
Speaker 7: heading into government that they believe that there is no
28:34
Speaker 7: role for the government to build state houses. The problem
28:37
Speaker 7: with that position, of course, is that if the government
28:39
Speaker 7: is it involved in building state houses, they don't get
28:42
Speaker 7: built and people don't get homes.
28:45
Speaker 2: True, but the Chairman also said the KOing Aura had
28:47
Speaker 2: significant growth over the past five years. That's under your watch.
28:51
Speaker 2: You delivered thirteen thousand homes, you refurbished three four hundred
28:56
Speaker 2: of them. But that growth was unsustainable. So it's time
29:00
Speaker 2: for a cup of tea.
29:03
Speaker 7: There was always changes under way at cling Oral. Let's
29:05
Speaker 7: not forget it was a brand new organization when the
29:08
Speaker 7: Labor government came in in twenty seventeen. The New Zealand
29:12
Speaker 7: Housing corporation existed solely to sell state houses. Previous government
29:17
Speaker 7: ended up with fifteen hundred fewer than what they started with.
29:21
Speaker 7: And then you're right, we built pretty much fourteen thousand homes.
29:25
Speaker 7: That is a massive amount of growth, and there was
29:27
Speaker 7: always efficiencies happening along the way. But because that was
29:31
Speaker 7: happening at such a fast pace, there's no excuse to
29:36
Speaker 7: turn around and make a case that is unsustainable. If
29:40
Speaker 7: you remember when the Prime Minister and the Minister stood
29:42
Speaker 7: up and made this case at the podium in Parliament,
29:47
Speaker 7: they talked about the death. They didn't once talk about
29:50
Speaker 7: the value of the assets in the way that that
29:52
Speaker 7: has grown, which has actually growing at a faster rate
29:55
Speaker 7: than the debt. There's forty seven billion dollars worth of
29:59
Speaker 7: assets crying or Aura's books. They don't talk about that
30:03
Speaker 7: because when you compare the assets to the debt, it's
30:06
Speaker 7: a completely different story.
30:08
Speaker 2: So if you were still in charge, you would be
30:10
Speaker 2: facing the same books. You've already said that the pace
30:13
Speaker 2: of building that happened under your charge previously was extraordinarily fast.
30:17
Speaker 2: Would you have continued that fast pace and continued to
30:20
Speaker 2: throw the agency into even more debt crisis?
30:24
Speaker 7: Well, We've got to be careful with their wording here.
30:26
Speaker 7: I've just to explained to you that there was no
30:28
Speaker 7: debt crisis. There is a large amount of debt, but
30:30
Speaker 7: there is also considerable amount of assets. This is a
30:35
Speaker 7: jack up in my view. The report that established this
30:38
Speaker 7: case was flawed, It contained factual errors and it just
30:43
Speaker 7: coincidentally landed with the same recommendations. Then was exactly where
30:49
Speaker 7: the previous National government were. This was always going to happen.
30:54
Speaker 7: What I'm concerned about is that they have walked away
30:57
Speaker 7: from building houses to those people that need them. So
31:01
Speaker 7: let's compare what was happening when there was up to
31:04
Speaker 7: five thousand homes being built a year and now is
31:08
Speaker 7: going to be no growth. Can you extrapolate this over
31:12
Speaker 7: the years. How many people are going to miss out
31:15
Speaker 7: on a home. We've already seen homelessness grow. We've seen
31:19
Speaker 7: stories of people living in cars and garages and tents
31:22
Speaker 7: and on the street. It's only going to get worse.
31:26
Speaker 7: That's the exact same situation that this country was left
31:28
Speaker 7: in the last time the National Party were in government.
31:31
Speaker 2: Kieren Mcinaty, thank you for your time, the Labor Housing spokesperson.
31:35
Speaker 2: Your thoughts ninety two. Ninety two is my text number.
31:37
Speaker 2: It is now seven minutes to six.
31:42
Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on Nafili edition where one roof make your
31:45
Speaker 1: Property search simple, youth dog Zibby.
31:50
Speaker 2: Yes, it's fine to six. So Careen mcinnaught has just
31:52
Speaker 2: come onto the program and said, we've got we've got
31:54
Speaker 2: heaps of assets. It's fine. So Craig picked what was
31:58
Speaker 2: wrong with that? He says in his text, this guy
32:01
Speaker 2: on the social housing you may have billions of dollars
32:03
Speaker 2: of assets, but you have to be able to service
32:06
Speaker 2: your debt. We are asset rich and cash poord. That's
32:09
Speaker 2: what New Zealand is. And I think that's what the
32:10
Speaker 2: chairman and the CEO were saying all the way along shore.
32:13
Speaker 2: Yeah you could do it, care but could you actually
32:15
Speaker 2: pay the debt? Mike Husking joins me, Now, hello, microphone,
32:19
Speaker 2: please makeel.
32:22
Speaker 16: I'll turn that on. If they've got two hundred houses
32:25
Speaker 16: at over a couple of million dollars, that's half a
32:27
Speaker 16: billion dollars worth of assets they don't need to, you know.
32:32
Speaker 16: And I thought the most interesting statistic was the bulk
32:35
Speaker 16: of people in the current queue, which is about twenty
32:37
Speaker 16: thousand want a one bedroom house. So why would you
32:40
Speaker 16: put a single person in a three bedroom house in
32:42
Speaker 16: rem you were worth two and a half million dollars.
32:44
Speaker 16: But then's best sanity. You build these things though, and
32:46
Speaker 16: then everyone goes, oh, there this high density. No family
32:49
Speaker 16: wants to live in that, and everyone complains about either
32:50
Speaker 16: one help you you don't you know, take it or
32:52
Speaker 16: leave a Jenet Dixon, I whod you mentioned that earlier
32:54
Speaker 16: on this morning. So she was always going to lose
32:56
Speaker 16: because just because you don't like a rule doesn't mean
32:58
Speaker 16: the body who made the rule and have the right
33:00
Speaker 16: to make the rule. And that's the problem with courts.
33:02
Speaker 16: Courts argue along the law, not whether you and I
33:05
Speaker 16: think it's a sensible thing to do or not. So
33:07
Speaker 16: we'll talk to her this morning. I feel very sorry.
33:09
Speaker 2: Is she righteously angry?
33:10
Speaker 5: Oh?
33:10
Speaker 16: As she should be, because it's unfortunate. But you know,
33:13
Speaker 16: we we put up with each day. I don't I
33:15
Speaker 16: don't know about you, but I do a whole lot
33:17
Speaker 16: of rules around here that really to be frank, if
33:18
Speaker 16: I around the world would be different. But you know
33:20
Speaker 16: that's life, isn't it.
33:21
Speaker 2: They don't come in and say you've got to pronounce
33:23
Speaker 2: melody correctly, they don't come in and and there are rules.
33:27
Speaker 16: No, that's what you're doing. See what you're doing is
33:29
Speaker 16: you and I agree because we're taking a sensible stance.
33:31
Speaker 16: But in a court, that's not how it works. And
33:34
Speaker 16: that's essentially why she lost.
33:35
Speaker 2: Well, it was her practice, she had to make her
33:38
Speaker 2: own rules. But years, that's the next that's.
33:41
Speaker 16: The next thing, because there's I always thought as a
33:43
Speaker 16: real estate agent you were essentially self employed.
33:46
Speaker 2: You are so therefore you make yourself attractive to your market.
33:50
Speaker 2: So if you want to speak Chinese, speak Chinese, I
33:52
Speaker 2: want to speak Mary.
33:54
Speaker 16: I think on the you know, the pub test, yes,
33:56
Speaker 16: I don't think it. I don't think it passes. But
33:58
Speaker 16: the court test and the pub test are two different.
34:00
Speaker 2: Anyway, she's with us. I'd rather go to the pub.
34:02
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, and I thank you. I won't
34:04
Speaker 2: be here tomorrow, but I will be here on Friday.
34:08
Speaker 2: Mike will be here on Friday as well, because we're
34:10
Speaker 2: all about the productivity.
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