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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - The Season Heads to Stage 2 · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  It's Sunday night,
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  quarterfinal start tomorrow.
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  And we're going to talk about that and
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  so much more next.
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  What is going on, everybody?
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  Welcome to Sunday, Sunday,
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  Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
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  We are live and coming at you on
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  a Sunday night as always.
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  So good to be with you, Jamie Latterer,
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  Carolyn Prevost, and myself.
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  So go ahead and do all of that
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  stuff.
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  And we're going to catch up a little
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  bit while people are coming into the show.
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  Good to see Fergie.
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  Good to see Terry.
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  Good to see Craig.
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  Vicky's already in here.
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  What a weekend.
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  Spending some crazy basketball games, huh?
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  Yeah.
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  I, I,
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  my bracket is so bad that I was
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  just pumped that Penn state won the
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  national championship for like the tenth
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  time in wrestling and five of their
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  wrestlers won individual national
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  championships.
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  That's amazing.
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  Are they known to be like the powerhouse
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  of wrestling?
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  Yes.
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  Yeah.
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  I think it's like,
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  it's at least five consecutive national
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  championships.
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  Um, yeah, they're pretty bad-ass.
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  I think I saw there's one perfect bracket
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  remaining.
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  It had to be someone just shooting darts
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  at a blindfolded bracket.
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  Has it ever happened?
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  I don't think so.
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  Cause that really rich guy in Omaha has
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  offered like a million dollars to anybody
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  who hits the perfect bracket.
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  I mean, the ESPN bracket cash, like enter.
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  And I don't think they've ever had to
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  pay out.
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  So I feel like,
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  Yeah, that's crazy.
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  Ken's living in nineteen eighty when the
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  Minnesota Gophers and Iowa Hawkeyes were
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  the wrestling programs.
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  But that is no longer the case.
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  Speaking of national championships on
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  Wisconsin,
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  the women's team won once again the
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  national championship,
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  taking on the Ohio State Buckeyes and
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  beating them today, this afternoon.
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  I saw they were in the finals.
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  I didn't know they had won now.
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  That's awesome.
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  would you rather have your bracket get
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  busted or tap out during an open workout?
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  Well, I've had both this year,
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  so I would rather have my bracket get
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  busted.
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  That doesn't really mean anything to me.
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  Yeah, I mean, that's happening all over.
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  Everyone's bracket gets busted.
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  For sure.
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  Even if you think that you're going to
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  nail it,
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  this is the year I'm going to get
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  so good.
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  I'm actually going to pull up our
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  leaderboard.
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  So Teresa, God, the eighties were fun.
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  They were so much fun.
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  So I see Jay Birch in there.
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  He's doing really well.
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  Nice.
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  Let me, I'll pull up the women's first.
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  Well, I'm doing better than that one,
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  I think.
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  You are,
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  you're doing much better than that one.
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  So I'll blow this up.
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  Jay Burch is winning the women's
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  tournament.
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  Jamie is second.
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  And Eric Mackey in third.
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  Carolyn is in fifth.
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  But it's pretty tight.
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  Fifty points from first to fifth.
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  I am pulling up the rear with my
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  Gamecocks, hoping they can pull it off.
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  So that's where we sit on the women's
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  side.
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  On the men's side, I'll share again.
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  We have this one here.
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  Chad Scott is winning on the men's side.
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  Terry Danik is second.
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  Jay Burch is in third.
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  Eric Mackey is in fourth.
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  Eric has DM'd me every morning and told
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  me that he's in first place.
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  I didn't get a DM today because he's
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  not anymore.
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  Um, so yeah, uh,
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  Vicki is tied for fourth with Eric now
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  and, and.
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  Um,
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  and then we have to go all the
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  way down to here to find me, uh,
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  Jamie down here.
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  Carolyn's right above me.
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  We're tied.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  My, my bracket is so busted.
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  I don't,
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  I had North Carolina in the final four
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  that got me killed.
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  So yeah, it's not looking good for me.
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  I think,
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  I think I have Virginia winning and
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  they're like losing right now.
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  So it's going to be over.
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  Yeah.
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  I could be Andrew Sten who just said
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  he's doing terrible down here with the
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  Jayhawks already out of it.
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  And he picked them to win the whole
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  thing.
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  They just lost like ten minutes ago,
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  I think,
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  on a last second buzzer beater to St.
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  John's.
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  Yep.
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  I think that's what knocked it down to
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  the one perfect bracket.
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  crazy so that's where the brackets stand
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  um so after my bracket was busted i
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  watched a movie last night called uh is
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  this thing on with will arnett and laura
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  dern and it's kind of advertised like it's
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  a stand-up comedy movie but it's really
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  not it's a movie about marriage oh
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  And since I will be celebrating my twenty
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  ninth wedding anniversary in May,
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  it's about a couple that have been
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  together for twenty years.
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  And they believe that they're unhappy
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  because of their marriage and what they
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  come to find out.
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  They were unhappy.
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  Overall,
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  not and it had nothing to do with
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  their marriage.
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  Mm hmm.
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  And it is really, really a good movie.
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  It's not like an action-packed thing.
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  It's more of a dialogue-driven drama.
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  But it is really, I think,
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  like Julie and I afterwards were looking
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  at each other like,
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  we've been through a lot.
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  And some good times and some bad times.
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  And that's what marriage is about.
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  And it represented it really, really well.
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  Yeah.
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  Aaron and I just celebrated eighteen
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  years,
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  so maybe we'll have to watch that tonight.
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  Yeah, it's it's a thinker.
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  I'll let you.
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  I'll let you sit on that for a
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  second.
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  It's not because afterwards you're going
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  to be looking at each other like.
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  Are we are we are we OK?
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  It is called is this thing on?
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  Basically,
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  like think about a comedian coming out and
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  tapping the mic and saying, is this thing,
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  that's where it's derived from.
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  But what's cool about it,
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  it's about finding your happiness.
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  Like you are not defined by your marriage.
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  Right.
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  You're defined by other things.
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  And can you find those happy things to,
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  it's good.
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  It's really, really good.
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  I'll just leave it at that.
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  I don't want to spoil anything.
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  Okay.
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  So.
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  Yeah, really good movie.
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  Will Arnett is on the Madison.
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  I've only watched the first episode of the
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  Madison.
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  So I have not got to that point,
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  apparently.
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  So there we go.
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  And you finished your Lego.
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  I did.
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  I did.
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  I did not.
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  I did.
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  It's sweet.
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  It's really cool.
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  I think I can find it.
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  What do you do with them after they're
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  built?
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  Like, where do you put them?
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  So like a lot of them are down
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  here around the podcast center,
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  just on shelves and stuff.
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  That one's pretty special.
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  And I'm Julie actually said I could get
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  like a floating shelf to put over by
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  my stereo and record player to like put
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  it on.
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  Um, cause it, it's really good.
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  It's in my, it's tied for one,
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  one a with my DeLorean from back to
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  the future.
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  Um,
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  How long did it take you to do?
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  So I only do like one bag at
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  a time.
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  The bricks come in bags and then you
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  do this set and then you put the
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  next set on top of that and on
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  top of that.
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  So I do one bag.
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  This was ten bags of bricks.
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  And it took me two and a half,
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  three weeks.
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  But I don't like sit down and sprint
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  through it.
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  Yeah, got to enjoy it.
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  There it is.
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  that's crazy it is the um the championship
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  car from last year's f-one series lando
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  norris um it's really cool and it has
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  all of the like the decals from the
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  sponsors and everything it's so true to
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  life do you do it by yourself or
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  does julie do it with you i do
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  it by myself as as i learned from
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  the movie last night we all have to
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  have our own individual happy happy times
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  that are ours.
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  So generally what happens is like Julie
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  watches shows I don't watch.
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  So I just kind of like listen in
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  and I do this while she's doing that.
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  I sit at the dining room table.
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  She's in the living room watching like
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  American Idol.
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  So
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  um Seamus says I'm only taking TV and
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  movie recommendations from Scott from now
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  on I watched rooster and never laughed so
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  hard in my life it is so good
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  the second episode was just as good too
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  so good yeah Jody's right don't touch my
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  Legos yeah
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  Because there's nothing more frustrating
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  than a piece falling off that was like,
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  twenty pages back in the book,
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  and you can't remember how it went on.
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  It's like doing puzzles.
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  It really is.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm still not done with that puzzle that
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  I've been working on since Christmas.
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  I'll have to Snapchat that one to you.
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  Oh,
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  you guys have been working on it for
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  like months, haven't you?
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  I know.
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  Literally since like a week after
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  Christmas.
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  It's not good.
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  It's hard.
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  If anyone's done these,
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  it's one of these odd pieces puzzles.
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  And there's like a story inside the
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  puzzle.
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  So like the picture on the box isn't
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  exactly what you're building.
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  It's crazy.
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  But also life.
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  Teresa says, my son loves these too,
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  Scott.
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  They are all over my office.
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  Yes, I am.
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  I am a full-size twelve-year-old.
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  Chester Springs CrossFit.
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  Ditto.
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  Our favorite shows have come from Scott's
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  recommendations.
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  There it is.
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  Something I'm good at.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh, her son is twenty.
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  That makes me feel better.
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  So another thing I want to talk about.
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  So we're changing up tonight a little bit.
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  I'm doing some of the quick news pieces
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  off the top instead of at the end.
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  And then we'll get into like the more
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  detailed stuff as we go.
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  So the first thing I wanted to talk
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  about is on the CrossFit News Network.
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  They have done a media leaderboard.
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  And when I looked at this.
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  I felt like something was missing.
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  Because I would say we are media.
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  Yeah.
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  And that is confirmed with Jamie Latimer
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  in third.
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  Corey Leonard in thirteenth.
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  Good job, Corey.
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  But Carolyn Prevo finished eighth in the
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  open.
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  Yeah.
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  Worldwide.
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  She's just too good.
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  And she does not appear on this list.
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  She's just too good.
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  I mean,
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  she's not with us normal people here.
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  Well, one, you are not normal.
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  Two, that is my question.
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  My question is,
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  do they view her as an active games
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  athlete?
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  And therefore,
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  does that make her ineligible?
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  Right.
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  Right.
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  That's what I saw in there.
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  They, I don't know who asked,
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  was it you that asked the question, Jamie,
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  on, on the comments there?
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  And then I didn't count because I just
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  competed last year.
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  I didn't put that in.
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  I just shared the story and wrote,
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  seems like Carolyn's missing.
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  No,
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  but then I went in the comments and
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  then they had replied back in there saying
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  that I didn't count.
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  Like the same thing with the boys
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  interrupted.
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  Oh, no games athletes included.
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  Cause like then the, yeah, boys.
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  It makes sense.
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  That's fair.
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  Individual because you're like in the
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  elite division.
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  Cause you masters.
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  Yeah.
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  Hey, you can't have it all.
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  Carolyn.
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  Well,
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  I'm saying cause you're a master's games
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  athlete.
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  You're current.
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  Oh, it's individual games.
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  Come on.
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  No, no.
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  Oh.
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  If I tried to say I was a
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  games athlete, I'd get blasted.
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  So.
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  So.
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  Anyway, if we look at it, James, James,
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  if you count a boys interrupted,
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  James would have finished ahead of her.
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  And then it'd be hers in second place.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  That's pretty good company, Carolyn.
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  I'll take that.
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  Any day.
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  Any day.
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  So,
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  but at least they had that as a
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  rule.
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  I'll give them that.
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  Yeah, that seems fair.
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  But, I mean,
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  you've been doing this longer than the
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  Boys Interrupted have been doing theirs.
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  Just saying.
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  It's true.
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  It's true.
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  What am I on now?
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  Two years now with the podcast?
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  Is this my second?
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  Yeah,
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  I think you're going on to your third
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  year.
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  It's been a long time.
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  Yeah,
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  I think it was January two years ago.
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  So you're like two plus.
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  Can you believe it's been that long,
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  Jamie?
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  No.
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  Yeah, not really.
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  I mean,
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  I feel like I've been doing it a
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  little longer.
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  Yeah, you were longer,
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  and then I came in.
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  Three plus.
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  Right.
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  Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
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  You know,
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  there was a time where I was like,
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  is this going to last for the eight
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  episodes, like people say?
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  And then you're like, eh.
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  We'll make it a year.
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  And then we, you know, I'm,
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  I'm proud of us.
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  We're doing great.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  We've been killing it the last two weeks
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  because of all of you in the chat.
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  Thank you so much.
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  It's it's been on fire.
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  The next thing I wanted to share is
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  this that came out today.
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  Carolyn sent this to me.
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  It is awesome.
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  There's been a lot of people that have
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  already started talking about this.
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  Here we go.
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  Okay, girls,
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  have you seen that podcast with those
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  games, guys?
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  Yeah, Boys Interrupted.
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  Isn't that basically like Justin's show?
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  The whole thing would fall apart without
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  him.
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  Justin still does CrossFit?
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  Ugh, Alexis, keep up.
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  Of course he still does CrossFit.
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  He just doesn't win anymore.
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  I mean,
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  did any of them really win the games?
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  I mean,
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  James only won because everything was
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  pretty much cardio.
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  And then Jason, well,
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  he only won because he snuck a towel
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  under the pegboard.
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  You know who really wins?
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  Jeff Adler.
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  I don't get why he's not in charge
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  of the podcast.
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  I thought there was a fourth guy on
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  the show.
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  Yeah, the other guy, that's Pat Vellner.
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  Are you sure that's who that is?
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  Yeah, yeah,
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  the guy that always gets third,
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  the blonde guy, that's Pat Vellner.
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  Like, what do they even talk about?
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  Themselves, basically.
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  Sometimes they'll eat a ghost pepper or
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  throw eggs at each other and they think
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  it's funny.
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  Well, I think anyone could do that.
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  Well, we could do that.
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  Alexis, what do you think?
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  That would be so fetch.
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  Alexis, stop trying to make fetch work.
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  If we're going to do a real podcast,
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  we have to use real words.
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  Okay.
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  I have Thursdays free.
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  Thursday works for me.
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  Ooh, it sounds like Thursday night it is.
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  Okay, girls.
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  Thursday night and make sure you bring the
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  tea.
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  There it is.
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  Girls unfiltered.
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  Thursday nights.
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  They freaking nailed that.
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  Yeah, that was great.
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  I wonder who came up with the idea
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  for the skid and like what they,
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  it's like someone outside of it comes from
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  them.
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  There are, you know,
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  when you launch something,
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  there's sometimes a soft launch.
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  This was a hard launch.
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  They were coming as hard as you could
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  in the trash talking game.
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  To call Dallin Pat Vellner taking out two
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  birds with one stone?
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  Unbelievable.
• 18:15
  Now they have to back it up, though.
• 18:17
  I know.
• 18:17
  They do.
• 18:18
  They got to be consistent.
• 18:23
  They should have called it Bring the Tea.
• 18:26
  I like Girls Unfiltered.
• 18:29
  Yeah.
• 18:30
  But, yeah.
• 18:31
  Either would have worked.
• 18:32
  I like that it's on Thursdays, but...
• 18:35
  I mean,
• 18:35
  I feel like we tossed that around for
• 18:36
  a little bit.
• 18:37
  That does seem like a night that's
• 18:40
  unfilled, so I love it.
• 18:44
  The only problem we had with Thursdays is
• 18:47
  a lot of stuff happens on Friday.
• 18:49
  Yeah.
• 18:50
  And so when we were finishing up on
• 18:51
  Thursday,
• 18:52
  it was like we had to wait a
• 18:53
  full week to then talk about what had
• 18:55
  happened.
• 18:56
  But they're not going to be talking about
• 18:58
  the news and stuff we're talking about.
• 19:00
  Right.
• 19:01
  So it's probably a great night for them.
• 19:03
  Mm-hmm.
• 19:05
  Um,
• 19:05
  the nice thing about Sunday night is
• 19:06
  you're getting the end of the weekend.
• 19:08
  Usually some stuff has happened and you
• 19:11
  know,
• 19:13
  but I don't want to give away all
• 19:15
  our tickets.
• 19:15
  I probably just did, but there that is,
• 19:18
  that was awesome.
• 19:19
  Who, whoever came up with that script,
• 19:23
  whoever came up with that idea,
• 19:24
  kudos to them.
• 19:26
  And, uh,
• 19:27
  they're definitely heading in the right
• 19:28
  direction with all that.
• 19:30
  I wonder which one of the three is
• 19:31
  going to lead the conversation.
• 19:33
  Like, who's going to be the Justin?
• 19:36
  It looks like it's Fi.
• 19:37
  I agree.
• 19:38
  Yeah, I think it'll be Fi.
• 19:40
  But I think that that is...
• 19:44
  Because we didn't know that going into
• 19:45
  Boys Interrupted,
• 19:46
  and Justin kind of naturally took that
• 19:48
  role.
• 19:49
  And he was really good at it.
• 19:52
  And as Justin took that over...
• 19:56
  Um, the guy,
• 19:58
  the other guys just let them and it
• 19:59
  was a natural thing for them.
• 20:02
  So I think,
• 20:03
  I think it's going to be fee,
• 20:04
  but we'll have to see how it kind
• 20:05
  of plays out.
• 20:07
  And kind of knowing the three of them,
• 20:09
  the little bit that I do it,
• 20:11
  I would guess it was fee.
• 20:13
  Yeah.
• 20:13
  Yeah.
• 20:16
  so um the next thing is and there's
• 20:21
  this is a simple announcement but it
• 20:24
  nothing is ever that simple with crossfit
• 20:27
  um syndicate crown put this out today they
• 20:29
  sent out invites for teams to be able
• 20:32
  to compete at their event and unlike last
• 20:35
  year teams can go to semifinals and
• 20:38
  qualify for the games
• 20:40
  They have until tomorrow night at eight PM
• 20:43
  Eastern time to accept their invitation.
• 20:47
  If they do not,
• 20:48
  they're going to start backfilling after
• 20:49
  that.
• 20:52
  But here's the unsimple part of this.
• 20:55
  We saw an announcement over the weekend on
• 20:58
  Sam Demeester's account where he said,
• 21:02
  we have unfinished business and it shows
• 21:05
  the mayhem crew from last year
• 21:11
  All in different videos that they're
• 21:13
  coming to syndicate crown.
• 21:17
  I've got two main questions about this
• 21:19
  one.
• 21:22
  I,
• 21:22
  there's already been a new mayhem team
• 21:24
  announced and you can only have one team
• 21:31
  per affiliate go now,
• 21:33
  Sam and Molly and Zoe,
• 21:36
  Zoe all live in Michigan now.
• 21:39
  Right.
• 21:40
  So it could be in a Michigan affiliate.
• 21:42
  Yep.
• 21:42
  Angelo lives nowhere near Michigan.
• 21:46
  And I think it's pretty obvious he still
• 21:47
  lives in Cookville, Tennessee.
• 21:48
  Yeah.
• 21:52
  Have we figured out, and I apologize,
• 21:55
  I didn't look this up.
• 21:56
  Can the team do their open workouts in
• 22:01
  other affiliates other than the one
• 22:03
  they're claiming to be on for the team?
• 22:07
  I think they have to do it at
• 22:08
  the open time.
• 22:09
  or for the affiliate that they're
• 22:11
  competing with, like as a team.
• 22:13
  So like Angela would have had to travel
• 22:15
  to Michigan CrossFit.
• 22:19
  What is it?
• 22:19
  CrossFit with, yeah,
• 22:20
  that gym and do the open there.
• 22:26
  And then the only exception was the twenty
• 22:29
  six point three that people could do it
• 22:32
  at Waterpalooza.
• 22:33
  Now I'm confused with that one because is
• 22:35
  it just the athletes that could do it
• 22:37
  at Waterpalooza?
• 22:39
  that didn't have to go inside the like
• 22:45
  another affiliate or anyone worldwide just
• 22:47
  for that twenty six point three.
• 22:49
  I think it's at Waterpalooza at on their
• 22:53
  stage.
• 22:55
  You could do it there.
• 22:56
  Right.
• 22:56
  If if not,
• 22:57
  then he would have had to have gone
• 22:59
  three weeks, let's say,
• 23:01
  if he wasn't at Waterpalooza.
• 23:02
  I don't know if he was at Waterpalooza
• 23:03
  or not.
• 23:07
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 23:09
  I'm going to look up his scores as
• 23:12
  we're talking.
• 23:16
  How many teams called that syndicate for
• 23:18
  the games?
• 23:18
  Is it three?
• 23:22
  I know they have three individuals,
• 23:26
  but I don't know about team because it's
• 23:28
  only twenty teams, not thirty.
• 23:31
  So it may be a reduced number.
• 23:37
  Yeah,
• 23:38
  this is going to be very interesting.
• 23:39
  I mean,
• 23:39
  if he's on the leaderboard with all of
• 23:44
  his workouts being verified and judged at
• 23:48
  CrossFit Mayhem.
• 23:50
  I think when I looked him up over
• 23:52
  the weekend,
• 23:52
  he had CrossFit whip under his name.
• 23:54
  Oh, okay.
• 23:57
  So he would have done it there.
• 23:58
  So this has been planned.
• 24:00
  I can't imagine that he wouldn't have done
• 24:03
  them there.
• 24:04
  They would know the rules pretty well.
• 24:06
  For sure.
• 24:08
  he must have traveled and done like the
• 24:10
  workouts there so i have it he he
• 24:16
  did them all at so uh at crossfit
• 24:20
  whip zoe jones is his judge okay two
• 24:26
  whip zoe jones and three at wadapalooza
• 24:30
  miami jake locker wow they've had this
• 24:34
  planned
• 24:37
  I did not see this coming.
• 24:42
  Okay.
• 24:43
  I'll be the one to say it.
• 24:45
  Angelo is coaching athletes that are at
• 24:47
  Mayhem currently.
• 24:49
  How does he split his time as their
• 24:51
  coach and be an athlete four states away?
• 24:58
  I don't think he's going to be in
• 25:01
  Michigan very often.
• 25:03
  No.
• 25:04
  We know each other enough.
• 25:06
  He's coaching... Who is he coaching?
• 25:10
  He's coaching Austin?
• 25:12
  Is he coaching Paige?
• 25:17
  Ooh.
• 25:17
  I don't know.
• 25:17
  He got a pretty good list of athletes.
• 25:20
  Yeah.
• 25:23
  I don't know.
• 25:24
  It just...
• 25:25
  I feel like his priority is going to
• 25:26
  be coaching,
• 25:27
  and then he's still training a lot,
• 25:29
  and then we'll go and do a couple
• 25:33
  comps with the Mayhem CrossFit whip.
• 25:37
  Maybe he just came on Monday,
• 25:40
  flew in and did it.
• 25:41
  It's not like this would be overwhelmingly
• 25:45
  stressful for the Open.
• 25:46
  You just need to get the workouts done.
• 25:48
  So maybe he focused on all of his
• 25:49
  athletes, got here on Monday,
• 25:51
  whipped it out, and went home.
• 25:55
  He's a firefighter, right?
• 25:56
  He works full-time firefighter?
• 25:57
  No, not anymore.
• 25:57
  He retired.
• 25:58
  Oh, really?
• 25:58
  Yep.
• 25:58
  Just to take on the coaching?
• 26:00
  Okay.
• 26:01
  Yeah,
• 26:07
  I think he's taken on more roles than
• 26:08
  just coaching, but yeah.
• 26:13
  It's not like Michigan and athletics have
• 26:15
  character vagueness or issues.
• 26:17
  Come on, relax, guys.
• 26:19
  It's more the blue maize and gold.
• 26:21
  Yeah, stay off my state.
• 26:23
  But the other one just can't win.
• 26:27
  We're doing good at hockey.
• 26:34
  I'm not going there, Chelsea.
• 26:35
  I'm not going there.
• 26:36
  All right.
• 26:37
  Because I insinuated possible cheating,
• 26:39
  but you guys reassured me.
• 26:42
  Angela is a man of character.
• 26:43
  Zoe and Sam are women and men of
• 26:46
  character.
• 26:48
  We're all good.
• 26:50
  There was a cheating scandal that did kind
• 26:52
  of come up over the weekend that if
• 26:55
  you did not watch the Hiller video,
• 26:57
  It is a must watch the first one.
• 26:59
  I have not watched the second one yet
• 27:01
  because I got enough information on the
• 27:02
  first one.
• 27:03
  I didn't need to see the second one.
• 27:07
  The fact there is no possible way a
• 27:09
  human does burpees that fast.
• 27:11
  No, I have watched,
• 27:13
  especially with the step on technique too.
• 27:15
  Right.
• 27:20
  Videoed, doctored videoed.
• 27:24
  And the way that Andrew actually can show
• 27:27
  the color fade from the doctored piece to
• 27:31
  the non-doctored piece,
• 27:32
  or however you want to phrase it,
• 27:35
  was absolutely well done.
• 27:39
  And the fact that they're still fighting
• 27:40
  him over this...
• 27:42
  Oh, I know.
• 27:43
  Ridiculous.
• 27:45
  Not the coach.
• 27:47
  I don't know who this guy was affiliated
• 27:49
  with,
• 27:49
  but was in the comments today live and
• 27:51
  just like kept like basically saying,
• 27:53
  bring me on.
• 27:54
  We're going to do it.
• 27:55
  We'll do it live.
• 27:56
  And it's like, I mean,
• 27:59
  you've lost all credibility.
• 28:01
  Like,
• 28:03
  Honestly, even at this point, you,
• 28:04
  if you do it live,
• 28:05
  I don't even think I would trust that.
• 28:06
  Like,
• 28:07
  unless you go to like some random gym
• 28:09
  that somebody else is going to set their
• 28:13
  barbell out and their plates,
• 28:15
  I think you're still going to mess with
• 28:17
  a fake barbell or fake plates or do
• 28:18
  something crazy.
• 28:19
  Like you've,
• 28:20
  you've proven that you cannot be trusted.
• 28:23
  For me,
• 28:23
  it was like when he had a side-by-side
• 28:25
  with Emma Lawson and Emma's a great mover
• 28:28
  too.
• 28:30
  And like the speed of the barbell cleans,
• 28:32
  I was like, there's,
• 28:33
  it just looks so fast and like so
• 28:36
  much faster than Emma and Emma was moving
• 28:38
  fast.
• 28:40
  And then the burpee speed,
• 28:41
  it was like twenty four,
• 28:42
  twenty five seconds to do the twelve.
• 28:43
  I was like,
• 28:45
  no way with that step up technique that
• 28:47
  you're going that.
• 28:48
  I don't know,
• 28:50
  it just seemed way too fast.
• 28:52
  Yeah.
• 28:53
  Um,
• 28:54
  Grace says the whole thing is very
• 28:55
  concerning.
• 28:56
  Are we getting to a point where editing
• 28:57
  software is,
• 28:59
  will get so good that this type of
• 29:00
  cheating will become commonplace.
• 29:03
  This happened ten years ago where a guy
• 29:05
  looped his video ten times for each round
• 29:09
  of the workout.
• 29:12
  thrusters and double unders.
• 29:15
  Yeah.
• 29:15
  So it's happened before.
• 29:16
  This isn't new stuff.
• 29:18
  And what's funny is in the doctored video,
• 29:21
  they went on the seam of the wall
• 29:23
  to try to get away with it,
• 29:25
  but didn't think about the floor shading.
• 29:28
  I think there's always going to be ways
• 29:30
  to tell at least for the next few
• 29:33
  years that
• 29:35
  But yes, CrossFit, it was Trevor.
• 29:38
  There it is.
• 29:39
  Bachmeier who looped the video ten times.
• 29:43
  It was amazing how consistent his reps
• 29:46
  were round after round.
• 29:48
  Yeah.
• 29:51
  But to be honest,
• 29:52
  even with the doctored video,
• 29:54
  if you've watched CrossFit for more than
• 29:56
  five years,
• 29:58
  you could tell the minute that video
• 29:59
  started that those burpees were sped up.
• 30:03
  It just doesn't move.
• 30:04
  Right.
• 30:04
  It doesn't.
• 30:06
  And the bar doesn't drop.
• 30:07
  Right.
• 30:09
  Yeah.
• 30:09
  Like never dropping the barbell and always
• 30:11
  like bringing it down is weird.
• 30:14
  Right.
• 30:14
  Like your last rep,
• 30:15
  you're letting that go.
• 30:16
  Yeah.
• 30:17
  Right.
• 30:17
  On the, on her initial one.
• 30:19
  Right.
• 30:19
  On the initial one,
• 30:20
  she didn't drop the bar.
• 30:22
  Correct.
• 30:22
  Until the very last rep and it bounced.
• 30:24
  Like maybe a sixty five would.
• 30:28
  Maybe.
• 30:28
  Yeah.
• 30:28
  Yeah.
• 30:30
  I was like,
• 30:31
  when Hiller was showing how to do it,
• 30:33
  I was like, don't show it Hiller.
• 30:33
  Don't show it Hiller.
• 30:34
  And I'm like,
• 30:35
  people are going to do this now.
• 30:36
  People like, that's what kind of,
• 30:38
  I'm like, don't show people how to cheat.
• 30:39
  Don't show people how to cheat.
• 30:40
  Agreed.
• 30:41
  Cause like,
• 30:41
  I don't know anything about like all that
• 30:43
  technology things,
• 30:44
  but I know that people will look at
• 30:45
  that now and cheat.
• 30:46
  Just like listening when he's explaining
• 30:49
  drug stuff.
• 30:50
  I'm like, uh, don't cheat.
• 30:52
  Don't be.
• 30:52
  Well, he showed how to do it,
• 30:55
  but even in his version,
• 30:56
  you could tell it was overlaid.
• 30:58
  Right.
• 31:00
  I think if you have an eye for
• 31:01
  it,
• 31:01
  I don't have an eye for that kind
• 31:02
  of technology stuff.
• 31:05
  I would have bypassed that.
• 31:06
  I wouldn't have seen that.
• 31:07
  The clock thing.
• 31:10
  CrossFit brings up,
• 31:10
  there was a guy who pretended to have
• 31:11
  a rope once too.
• 31:13
  Did you guys remember that?
• 31:16
  He just had two handles and kept jumping.
• 31:19
  I need that.
• 31:22
  Carolyn would have won the game.
• 31:25
  I could have done that.
• 31:27
  Oh, look at these wrists.
• 31:32
  So fast, so fast.
• 31:35
  Oh, so funny.
• 31:36
  So funny.
• 31:38
  Yes, Teresa, really a loop.
• 31:40
  Yes.
• 31:40
  We looped the same over and over and
• 31:43
  over.
• 31:43
  Those ten rounds of like,
• 31:46
  I don't know what it was, nine thrusters,
• 31:48
  I think, in thirty-five or double unders.
• 31:51
  Yep.
• 31:51
  Just looped it.
• 31:53
  You'd think he would have done like three
• 31:54
  rounds and like, you know,
• 31:58
  looped the three.
• 31:59
  Well, like, yeah, I mean, the same,
• 32:03
  I think that's why it was so easy
• 32:04
  to catch on on that one.
• 32:06
  The guy even looped in some sound.
• 32:08
  So you heard the... That's great.
• 32:13
  Yeah, that's the other thing with hers.
• 32:15
  There was no music.
• 32:18
  And the breathing was off.
• 32:22
  I guess I didn't even think about the
• 32:24
  no music.
• 32:24
  I know.
• 32:25
  That would be so that you could tell
• 32:28
  it was speed up if there was music.
• 32:30
  Right.
• 32:32
  I didn't even think about that.
• 32:34
  That's a good point.
• 32:35
  That is that's another point to be added
• 32:36
  to the list.
• 32:37
  Yep.
• 32:39
  Keep your music said that she's now
• 32:41
  learned techniques to get her to the top.
• 32:43
  But like with the whole AI stuff,
• 32:50
  I was,
• 32:50
  I was thinking that that would be more
• 32:52
  of an issue.
• 32:54
  Yes.
• 32:56
  Can you run those videos to AI and
• 32:58
  ask if it's edited?
• 33:00
  I bet you could.
• 33:01
  But on the same token, CrossFit saying,
• 33:03
  dear chat GPT,
• 33:04
  how can I make my workout go faster?
• 33:09
  So with every plus,
• 33:10
  you're going to get a minus.
• 33:11
  I don't know why, why for the open,
• 33:18
  it's just crazy to me.
• 33:19
  And then just, I don't know.
• 33:26
  Just add a third track at a different
• 33:27
  speed to offset the music speed.
• 33:29
  Yeah, you could.
• 33:30
  That's so easy.
• 33:31
  That would be easier than pulling it at
• 33:34
  a clock.
• 33:35
  Yeah.
• 33:40
  She just uses PEDs.
• 33:44
  She probably should have put a music
• 33:47
  background in so that the breathing wasn't
• 33:50
  like so obvious.
• 33:54
  Yeah.
• 33:57
  Double the dose.
• 33:58
  Hope for the most Trish.
• 33:59
  There you go.
• 34:02
  It's just, it's, it just is what started.
• 34:06
  And this is kind of like,
• 34:07
  we'll get into this now.
• 34:08
  Maybe not.
• 34:09
  Okay.
• 34:11
  It,
• 34:11
  the beauty of the open is going away
• 34:13
  because of all of this stuff.
• 34:16
  right it was this beautiful online
• 34:18
  competition where the whole community
• 34:20
  could get involved and everybody could
• 34:22
  participate and now we have all of these
• 34:26
  types of scandals that are putting a dark
• 34:29
  cloud over it and we have a segment
• 34:31
  later in the show where we're going to
• 34:33
  talk about those types of things and is
• 34:37
  it going to affect the open and crossfit
• 34:40
  moving forward um
• 34:47
  So the last thing I have on this
• 34:49
  segment before we get into more specific
• 34:51
  stuff, Max O'Malley,
• 34:55
  was her time still pretty fast?
• 34:57
  It's not so sped up that she seems
• 34:59
  unfit.
• 35:01
  Would she have had a top score anyway?
• 35:03
  So here's the full story if you did
• 35:05
  not see the video.
• 35:06
  She did one video where it appeared like
• 35:08
  the weights were lighter than prescribed.
• 35:13
  She did not break during the workout.
• 35:16
  And the only time she dropped the bar
• 35:18
  was on the last rep of the entire.
• 35:22
  Twenty six point three.
• 35:24
  So Hiller called her out,
• 35:26
  actually called her and asked her about
• 35:29
  it, gave her a chance to fess up.
• 35:31
  She doubled down and sent him a new
• 35:34
  video.
• 35:35
  The new video is the one that seems
• 35:38
  speed up, sped up.
• 35:40
  And you,
• 35:41
  he could show you the difference in the
• 35:43
  shading, uh,
• 35:44
  on the floor that showed where a clock
• 35:47
  was inserted,
• 35:48
  where it wasn't there before.
• 35:51
  So then he said, no more second chances.
• 35:54
  She's offered to send more video.
• 35:56
  And he said, no, that's okay.
• 35:58
  We already know where we're at.
• 35:59
  Right.
• 36:00
  But now she is trying to defend herself
• 36:03
  on social media all day,
• 36:05
  her and her troupe.
• 36:07
  um wherever she's at she's only twenty
• 36:10
  years old like she has a lot of
• 36:12
  time i do appreciate that she's
• 36:16
  communicating like with hillar and her and
• 36:20
  her coach and it's like okay i'll do
• 36:22
  it another time and i think they're gonna
• 36:24
  do it live right yeah but yeah you're
• 36:28
  claiming that
• 36:30
  You can say it's London.
• 36:32
  I don't know what to trust anymore.
• 36:32
  I don't know.
• 36:35
  Like, they're very specific.
• 36:36
  They're like,
• 36:37
  we're going to go to this gym in
• 36:38
  London.
• 36:39
  That makes me feel like you have something
• 36:41
  going on there.
• 36:43
  You know someone there.
• 36:44
  You're going to set something up that's
• 36:45
  going to be fishy.
• 36:46
  No, you can't.
• 36:49
  I would not let them.
• 36:50
  I mean,
• 36:50
  I just feel like there's got to be
• 36:51
  people in this gym that they go to
• 36:54
  that they're like –
• 36:56
  There's no way she got that time.
• 36:57
  Like you would see someone work out.
• 36:59
  Somebody had to have been like, I mean,
• 37:01
  and it sounds like some people did say
• 37:02
  something and they're like,
• 37:04
  those are not the correct plates.
• 37:06
  That's how he like, you know,
• 37:07
  he checked in with people from the first
• 37:08
  video and was like, yeah,
• 37:10
  that's not the right plate.
• 37:11
  Like this color plate in our gym is
• 37:13
  this.
• 37:13
  And they'd send him a picture of it.
• 37:15
  But yeah,
• 37:17
  I just would think like the members and
• 37:19
  that affiliate owner,
• 37:21
  and it sounds like that affiliate owner
• 37:22
  said like, you're not welcome back in,
• 37:24
  which props to them.
• 37:28
  And she admitted she edited the clock in
• 37:30
  the first video.
• 37:31
  She said it's because her clock didn't
• 37:33
  start or some story like that.
• 37:35
  And it was.
• 37:36
  But then prior to that said that she
• 37:38
  didn't know how to edit or anything like
• 37:39
  that.
• 37:40
  Right.
• 37:41
  And he went back and looked at her
• 37:43
  twenty six point one.
• 37:45
  And it appears the wall ball is not
• 37:47
  the right size either.
• 37:49
  It's like a ten pound wall ball.
• 37:50
  Yep.
• 37:52
  So,
• 37:53
  and you can actually see the number on
• 37:54
  the wall ball as she's doing the workout
• 37:58
  and it is not.
• 37:59
  Um,
• 37:59
  and like who warms up with the ten
• 38:05
  pound.
• 38:06
  Yeah.
• 38:06
  I don't think I've ever touched a ten
• 38:07
  pound.
• 38:08
  No, I warm up heavier.
• 38:10
  I grab a twenty to warm up.
• 38:11
  I grab a fourteen, but like,
• 38:13
  I just don't do that many reps for
• 38:14
  warm up in general,
• 38:15
  but you grab a fourteen.
• 38:17
  You'd never grab a ten and you don't
• 38:18
  grab your dad's iPhone to film anything.
• 38:23
  I lean into my lack of fitness.
• 38:24
  It's freeing.
• 38:27
  There you go.
• 38:29
  Words of wise men.
• 38:38
  That video was her warm-up video.
• 38:40
  Her coach is complicit.
• 38:41
  Coach is very complicit.
• 38:45
  So what do we think that,
• 38:46
  so let's say CrossFit HQ determines that
• 38:51
  this is explicit cheating, blah, blah.
• 38:53
  Do you give that athlete like basically
• 38:56
  like a PD sanction?
• 38:57
  Like let's say it's one year,
• 39:00
  you get one year of ban.
• 39:02
  So you can't do the open next year.
• 39:04
  You can come back the following year or
• 39:06
  something.
• 39:07
  Like should something like that be in
• 39:09
  place in the rule book
• 39:11
  so that if you're caught cheating of any
• 39:14
  sort like that,
• 39:15
  there is some sort of ban.
• 39:20
  I think it should be for the following
• 39:21
  year.
• 39:24
  I would be open to a two-year ban.
• 39:26
  Two-year ban, yeah.
• 39:27
  I don't think it needs to be like
• 39:28
  four.
• 39:29
  Right, because PEDs can...
• 39:31
  Definitely at least one.
• 39:32
  It depends, I guess,
• 39:33
  what the cheating is of the video.
• 39:37
  It's still cheating,
• 39:38
  and it's blatant cheating in this case.
• 39:41
  So I say two-year ban.
• 39:43
  Four-year for PEDs is to get the stuff
• 39:47
  out of their system as much as possible
• 39:49
  before you let them back in.
• 39:52
  And two-year ban I think is appropriate
• 39:56
  because you definitely cheated.
• 39:58
  You definitely cost other people
• 39:59
  opportunities.
• 40:00
  She finished second in the workout in the
• 40:02
  world.
• 40:05
  But I think that would scare people.
• 40:07
  That would scare people if you said –
• 40:10
  you get a two year ban and that's
• 40:11
  written in the rules that one,
• 40:13
  your score is invalidated for that
• 40:15
  specific year,
• 40:16
  which then you can't move on to quarter
• 40:17
  semis for that year.
• 40:19
  And then you get an additional one or
• 40:21
  two years of that.
• 40:23
  I think if that's written in the rules,
• 40:25
  that'll deter people from even thinking
• 40:27
  about it and getting caught.
• 40:31
  They showed it's fraud.
• 40:33
  Absolutely.
• 40:34
  People should get a ban.
• 40:36
  One hundred percent.
• 40:38
  Should be at least two years, maybe four.
• 40:41
  Invalidate score, I think, at the minimum.
• 40:43
  Well, they did do that.
• 40:45
  They did invalidate her score.
• 40:47
  So that that was done.
• 40:49
  Yeah.
• 40:50
  Old school HQ would ban the gym.
• 40:51
  Ask Josh Golden.
• 40:53
  See, I agree.
• 40:54
  That's that kind of stuff.
• 40:55
  Like the judge loses the privileges.
• 40:57
  Yes.
• 40:57
  Yeah.
• 40:59
  Like like some of these scores that are
• 41:02
  being validated with one minute tie break
• 41:04
  times that are impossible.
• 41:06
  There needs to be repercussions.
• 41:08
  Somebody is not doing their job.
• 41:09
  And if we're supposed to be told that
• 41:12
  just be an affiliate and trust the process
• 41:15
  and people are going to do their job
• 41:17
  and validate scores like.
• 41:20
  Then it better be done right.
• 41:21
  Like I don't.
• 41:25
  At this point,
• 41:26
  I just feel like people go in and
• 41:27
  click a button and they don't even double
• 41:28
  check that anybody score.
• 41:30
  And I don't think that's right.
• 41:35
  If the affiliate did ban her from the
• 41:38
  affiliate,
• 41:40
  then that should be considered in their
• 41:41
  ban.
• 41:43
  Agreed.
• 41:44
  But be more careful.
• 41:47
  Yes.
• 41:51
  Right.
• 41:52
  And now there is this problem.
• 41:53
  Scores automatically validate.
• 41:56
  the only thing you can do as the
• 41:58
  affiliate manager is to invalidate them
• 42:01
  after the fact.
• 42:02
  Oh, geez.
• 42:04
  That's a problem.
• 42:04
  Why are they,
• 42:06
  can you even go back and arrange it
• 42:08
  or by invalidating,
• 42:10
  you cut your athlete score to zero.
• 42:11
  Do you know what I mean by that?
• 42:13
  Yep.
• 42:14
  Yeah.
• 42:14
  And like,
• 42:15
  you want to be able to edit the
• 42:16
  proper score, not, not right.
• 42:19
  Invalid.
• 42:20
  And all of a sudden the athlete gets
• 42:21
  the editing has to happen before Monday
• 42:24
  night at eight PM Eastern.
• 42:25
  Yeah.
• 42:25
  That's a problem.
• 42:27
  Once the PM comes,
• 42:29
  the only thing you can do is zero
• 42:30
  it out or, or what?
• 42:34
  Let it ride.
• 42:35
  Do you reach out to HQ and say,
• 42:36
  Hey, you could do that.
• 42:40
  My athletes tie break time.
• 42:41
  I caught this and it's, I mean,
• 42:43
  I don't think you have the ability
• 42:45
  personally to go in and make that change.
• 42:47
  Yeah.
• 42:48
  I don't like that.
• 42:50
  If you want these affiliate managers to,
• 42:54
  to have any responsibility.
• 42:55
  Like they need,
• 42:56
  they need some edit responsibility in case
• 42:58
  somebody types something in wrong.
• 43:00
  Cause reaching back out and getting,
• 43:01
  if you invalidate it,
• 43:02
  even if you do it at like seven
• 43:03
  PM and you're trying to do the right
• 43:05
  thing,
• 43:07
  making sure the athlete updates their
• 43:09
  score and gets it in for you is
• 43:10
  a problem.
• 43:11
  Like just be,
• 43:12
  just be able to edit it and be
• 43:14
  like, that's not what they got.
• 43:15
  I have their sheet right here.
• 43:18
  Um, Phil B it's a video though.
• 43:19
  She didn't need affiliate affiliate
• 43:21
  validation.
• 43:25
  I don't know how she put it in,
• 43:26
  this one.
• 43:27
  Some of her scores were not videoed.
• 43:29
  They were affiliate approved,
• 43:33
  if I remember correctly from the video.
• 43:35
  So this one must not have been done
• 43:36
  at an affiliate,
• 43:37
  and that's why she had to video and
• 43:38
  put it in.
• 43:39
  Because, yes, if you do that,
• 43:41
  you get automatically validated with the
• 43:43
  video.
• 43:44
  What I will say to you, Jamie,
• 43:47
  is when I was at my one gym,
• 43:50
  they said,
• 43:51
  if you come in on a Monday to
• 43:52
  do it,
• 43:57
  I can't hear him.
• 43:58
  I lost him too.
• 44:02
  You muted.
• 44:05
  I think what he was trying to say
• 44:09
  is rather, I think what I see,
• 44:10
  what he was trying to say is if
• 44:11
  you come in and you do the,
• 44:14
  what it was, I don't know.
• 44:15
  You do the workout on a month,
• 44:16
  like Monday night, there probably is like,
• 44:18
  I don't know what he was going with
• 44:22
  the story.
• 44:22
  Yeah.
• 44:23
  Where, what they,
• 44:23
  would they be warning them?
• 44:24
  Something warning them?
• 44:25
  Like,
• 44:27
  I don't have time to review scores,
• 44:28
  so make sure you get it.
• 44:31
  Or at your own risk to do it
• 44:33
  the Monday.
• 44:33
  Yeah.
• 44:34
  I don't know where he was going.
• 44:41
  Yeah, way earlier than normal.
• 44:42
  It's just crazy that it went all that
• 44:44
  soon.
• 44:45
  Is that the router that he sent to
• 44:46
  us that's going to be happening?
• 44:47
  I don't know.
• 44:47
  I'm worried about that, too.
• 44:49
  Yeah, he sent us.
• 44:51
  Because I don't want to use that if
• 44:53
  that's going to happen.
• 44:54
  I know.
• 44:56
  He says no.
• 45:00
  Oh, so it says, no, I said,
• 45:03
  I wanted you guys to try that one
• 45:05
  out.
• 45:05
  And then I would may switch to that
• 45:07
  one.
• 45:07
  Oh, if it works well,
• 45:11
  what I was saying is we,
• 45:14
  the athletes were warned.
• 45:15
  If you do your workout on a Monday,
• 45:19
  there is a chance that we cannot view
• 45:21
  it and let you know that it's your
• 45:23
  score submission is wrong.
• 45:25
  So you better make sure it's right.
• 45:29
  Makes sense.
• 45:29
  That was your, yeah, we,
• 45:32
  if you do it on Saturday and you
• 45:34
  enter it wrong,
• 45:35
  we can tell you before the deadline,
• 45:38
  right?
• 45:38
  We can guarantee that.
• 45:40
  But if you wait till last minute doing
• 45:42
  it half hour before the eight o'clock
• 45:44
  deadline,
• 45:45
  we can't guarantee that we can make sure
• 45:47
  everything's right.
• 45:49
  So I think that,
• 45:52
  If you've done the open for long enough
• 45:54
  and you're competing like these athletes
• 45:57
  are to try to get to the games
• 45:59
  or to a semifinal,
• 46:01
  you have to know that a late submission
• 46:03
  is not going to be viewed.
• 46:05
  And an invalidated score could happen.
• 46:11
  Yeah.
• 46:11
  But I feel like that's where affiliate
• 46:12
  managers,
• 46:13
  they don't want to invalidate it because
• 46:16
  they don't want to just zero it out.
• 46:18
  I think if they emailed, they'd be fine.
• 46:21
  It just cross.
• 46:22
  It might take a while to adjust the,
• 46:25
  the score.
• 46:26
  Yeah.
• 46:28
  I mean, it doesn't, somebody said earlier,
• 46:31
  it doesn't put a lot of confidence in
• 46:33
  these quarterfinals.
• 46:35
  And I totally agree.
• 46:36
  No video requirement.
• 46:39
  If the workouts are released on Monday,
• 46:41
  how many people do them on Monday,
• 46:42
  Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
• 46:44
  Saturday, Sunday.
• 46:46
  Exactly.
• 46:46
  Now you guys are jumping.
• 46:48
  We are jumping.
• 46:48
  I'm sorry.
• 46:49
  Yeah.
• 46:51
  So the last thing before we jump into
• 46:53
  the quarterfinal discussion,
• 46:54
  which we will do next,
• 46:55
  is Danny Spiegel is going to be on
• 46:57
  American Gladiators.
• 46:59
  We've talked about it on this show.
• 47:01
  Danny is a great athlete.
• 47:04
  I think this is so well suited for
• 47:06
  her.
• 47:07
  And I think she's going to kill it.
• 47:09
  And I think that the producers have
• 47:11
  realized she's going to kill it because
• 47:13
  she is way out in front on the
• 47:15
  poster.
• 47:19
  And the cool part is,
• 47:21
  they talk about crossfit in her bio oh
• 47:24
  good this is her second year doing it
• 47:28
  too this is the first year for american
• 47:31
  gladiators was she not was she not chosen
• 47:35
  last year or something or was she doing
• 47:37
  something else it might have been
• 47:40
  something else okay maybe she's just done
• 47:42
  so many shows i'm getting confused
• 47:44
  Yeah,
• 47:44
  this is the first time American Gladiators
• 47:46
  is back on the air since like,
• 47:47
  I think it's just been coming for like
• 47:50
  two years.
• 47:51
  We've known that American Gladiators was
• 47:53
  going to come back out.
• 47:54
  Maybe that's why I was thinking.
• 47:55
  Yeah.
• 47:56
  And then the more,
• 47:58
  this is more for Jamie,
• 48:00
  Jordan Chef's Michigan product.
• 48:03
  On her Instagram said, oh,
• 48:05
  I'm glad this is out.
• 48:06
  I've been having to keep this a secret
• 48:07
  for a long time.
• 48:09
  And then Seth said on the Friday night
• 48:12
  CrossFit News Network talk that one of his
• 48:16
  former athletes is on American Gladiators.
• 48:19
  So two and two together,
• 48:21
  Jordan chefs is going to be one of
• 48:22
  the contestants on American gladiators.
• 48:26
  I don't know that for a fact,
• 48:27
  I'm really just sniffing out the clues.
• 48:31
  And, um,
• 48:33
  and so that would be really cool that
• 48:34
  one CrossFitter is a contestant and one
• 48:37
  CrossFitter is a gladiator.
• 48:41
  That's awesome.
• 48:43
  So super stoked for that.
• 48:46
  I was an American gladiator fan my whole
• 48:47
  life and can't wait to see the reboot
• 48:51
  regardless of the CrossFit connection,
• 48:52
  but that's even makes it cooler.
• 48:57
  Uh, yeah, I am the clue hunter.
• 49:02
  Just when we interviewed like a hundred
• 49:04
  and ten semifinal athletes,
• 49:06
  I followed them all on Instagram.
• 49:08
  So I get to see all these like
• 49:11
  clues from semifinal athletes that you
• 49:14
  wouldn't normally see.
• 49:16
  So anyway,
• 49:17
  there's that quarterfinals this week and
• 49:19
  workouts are announced tomorrow.
• 49:21
  We talked about this a little bit.
• 49:24
  You guys pointed out a huge conflict with
• 49:28
  this as we just got off of the
• 49:30
  subject of cheating.
• 49:32
  They're announced Monday.
• 49:33
  They have said there is no password that
• 49:36
  you have to say on given days to
• 49:39
  show that you're doing them then.
• 49:41
  You're not allowed to do the workouts
• 49:45
  until Thursday.
• 49:47
  Where did they say there's no password?
• 49:50
  It was said by Seth Page on the
• 49:53
  CrossFit News weekly update show on Friday
• 49:58
  night on the Savant Channel.
• 49:59
  Seth is part of the CAC.
• 50:02
  He said there is no password this year
• 50:06
  and that he already knows how many events,
• 50:08
  but he would not disclose that.
• 50:10
  Well, I think four.
• 50:11
  If you look at CAP, there's four events.
• 50:14
  Yeah.
• 50:15
  And that there's no password.
• 50:17
  And he actually pointed out and said the
• 50:20
  CAC pointed out people are going to start
• 50:22
  doing the workout early in the week.
• 50:25
  A hundred percent.
• 50:27
  And, and there was,
• 50:28
  and there was no real pushback on that.
• 50:30
  Everyone was just like, yeah.
• 50:32
  Well, this year they said they see,
• 50:35
  they saw the problem,
• 50:36
  but there was nothing they could do about
• 50:38
  it at this time.
• 50:41
  I think the more serious athletes will
• 50:43
  wait till Thursday and it's the other
• 50:45
  people that are doing the quarterfinals
• 50:48
  that might not be looking to go to
• 50:50
  the semifinals.
• 50:51
  That will be like,
• 50:51
  I'll just do it whenever.
• 50:52
  No one's going to ask for my video.
• 50:54
  No one's going to care when I do
• 50:55
  it.
• 50:55
  That's how I feel.
• 50:57
  But I think most of the semifinal
• 50:59
  athletes, games athletes,
• 51:00
  the ones going to the next round are
• 51:02
  going to wait till Thursday.
• 51:03
  At least that's what I tell myself.
• 51:07
  I wish I could feel that way.
• 51:08
  I don't.
• 51:08
  After our discussion we just had.
• 51:10
  Yeah, I don't either.
• 51:10
  If you're going to ask a doctor a
• 51:11
  video,
• 51:13
  doing a workout a day early is easy.
• 51:17
  Agreed.
• 51:21
  And no video requirement.
• 51:22
  So what are the chances?
• 51:26
  I mean,
• 51:31
  unaffiliated people to also bombard these
• 51:33
  gyms to bring in more people to
• 51:35
  accommodate,
• 51:37
  what are the chances that this affiliate
• 51:38
  manager is watching all of these get done?
• 51:42
  Because people aren't going to video them
• 51:43
  because what's the point?
• 51:45
  So there's nothing to be like, hey,
• 51:47
  you said you got nine rounds.
• 51:52
  I'm sure they didn't watch it.
• 51:53
  So you can't even be like,
• 51:55
  can you send me your video of you
• 51:57
  doing it so I can validate it?
• 52:01
  This is just crazy to me.
• 52:03
  There are gyms with...
• 52:04
  What did Amanda Harry say?
• 52:07
  They had like...
• 52:09
  insane number qualified for quarters if
• 52:12
  they release the workouts let's say
• 52:14
  tomorrow Adrian does it on the sport of
• 52:17
  fitness podcast but without the floor
• 52:20
  plans and the distances between objects
• 52:23
  and all of that will that deter people
• 52:26
  and like you know what you know what
• 52:27
  to prepare for in the weekend why you
• 52:30
  don't even have video why would who cares
• 52:32
  if you if you did six feet away
• 52:34
  like who's gonna again who's gonna even
• 52:36
  check that
• 52:39
  I mean,
• 52:39
  we can say the same thing for the
• 52:40
  open workouts too.
• 52:41
  Who needs to go ten feet from the
• 52:43
  wall?
• 52:43
  But yeah,
• 52:44
  there was tons of affiliates that didn't
• 52:47
  partake in the six-foot rule of the box
• 52:50
  or whatever.
• 52:53
  Would it be better if they said everybody
• 52:56
  can start Monday afternoon?
• 52:57
  Yes.
• 52:58
  Just start telling people that so they can
• 53:00
  say that.
• 53:00
  Yes.
• 53:01
  Now everybody has the same time frame to
• 53:03
  get the workouts done.
• 53:09
  No, there's no integrity.
• 53:11
  They can't have their own way sometimes.
• 53:14
  Like, one, do a password.
• 53:17
  You've done it five hundred times.
• 53:18
  It takes no...
• 53:21
  And make people have to keep videos of
• 53:23
  all their workouts because you could ask
• 53:25
  for it at any time.
• 53:27
  You should be videoing it.
• 53:28
  We've talked about this every year.
• 53:29
  You should be videoing your stuff and
• 53:31
  CrossFit should have this require it for
• 53:34
  submission.
• 53:34
  If you're serious about this sport at all,
• 53:36
  you will video.
• 53:37
  It's not that big of a deal.
• 53:41
  I don't understand why we've gone away
• 53:42
  from that.
• 53:44
  Because it's twenty five,
• 53:45
  because they realize it's going to be a
• 53:47
  lot of people and hard for gyms to
• 53:48
  manage.
• 53:51
  Will the semifinals have the,
• 53:54
  the online semifinals will have the videos
• 53:55
  that have to go with your,
• 53:57
  like on the site,
• 53:59
  you can judge them like they had last
• 54:00
  year.
• 54:01
  I would assume you'll have a password,
• 54:03
  two judges on the floor and video require
• 54:06
  when you send it in.
• 54:07
  Just not quarters.
• 54:08
  Just not quarters.
• 54:11
  You do need a video if you're in
• 54:13
  individuals and you think you're going to
• 54:14
  be top five.
• 54:16
  For the money.
• 54:17
  Yep.
• 54:17
  That's it.
• 54:23
  Don't love that.
• 54:24
  Don't love that.
• 54:27
  Jamie, I'm serious,
• 54:27
  but I don't own that much videotape.
• 54:31
  What do you mean?
• 54:32
  It'll take him that long to do the
• 54:33
  workouts.
• 54:36
  Oh.
• 54:39
  You're going to have to get a GoPro
• 54:42
  or something with a big SD card and
• 54:45
  let it run.
• 54:47
  This is why I wonder why I compete.
• 54:50
  Agreed.
• 54:56
  The rule book does say that you can,
• 54:58
  that CrossFit can request a video.
• 55:06
  Yeah.
• 55:07
  Shanna, because you're awesome.
• 55:08
  She is.
• 55:14
  So Terry,
• 55:14
  the top people don't need videos to move
• 55:17
  on to semis.
• 55:18
  They don't technically need a video unless
• 55:20
  CrossFit that later asks for one.
• 55:22
  I mean, and to be honest, most,
• 55:23
  a lot of the top people already have
• 55:25
  their semifinals picked up already.
• 55:28
  They just need to do the quarterfinals.
• 55:30
  They just need to do the quarterfinals
• 55:33
  somewhat like decent.
• 55:35
  Like you are a lot of athletes already
• 55:37
  have their,
• 55:38
  like the qualifiers for many of the
• 55:40
  semifinals have already taken place.
• 55:42
  How many of them are actually using this
• 55:43
  quarterfinal?
• 55:45
  Well, the top twenty get an invite.
• 55:48
  To where?
• 55:49
  a lot of them that's that was the
• 55:51
  thing there's gonna be a bunch of repeat
• 55:53
  people i mean yeah some did the invites
• 55:55
  and it's all like which is was silly
• 55:57
  to me because it should just be this
• 55:58
  year's performance but i feel like some
• 56:03
  people have already been invited so that
• 56:05
  doesn't matter and it doesn't maybe but as
• 56:11
  long as they're top two thousand they
• 56:13
  still have an invite it doesn't matter
• 56:18
  So I want to get into that.
• 56:20
  Dave, in his week in review,
• 56:23
  said out loud on a mic videotaped that
• 56:26
  he does not like the fact that invites
• 56:28
  go out based on last season's results to
• 56:32
  this season's finding the fittest.
• 56:36
  We have said we hate that on this
• 56:37
  show.
• 56:38
  We have said it several, several times.
• 56:42
  He also said he does like the idea
• 56:45
  of taking the open scores and carrying
• 56:48
  them over to quarterfinals and having a
• 56:51
  more complete test.
• 56:53
  We have said that on this show so
• 56:57
  many times.
• 56:58
  And Carolyn,
• 56:59
  please correct me if I'm wrong.
• 57:01
  I think you actually submitted this to
• 57:02
  CrossFit HQ.
• 57:04
  I did last year.
• 57:05
  Yeah, because like I was like,
• 57:07
  if you guys have all these like online
• 57:10
  online competitions that we all did,
• 57:11
  why are they not just getting combined
• 57:13
  together into one,
• 57:15
  including the online semifinals?
• 57:16
  You would have like twelve tests of the
• 57:18
  people who's good at all the twelve tests.
• 57:20
  Like that's a better representation.
• 57:22
  Submit your videos with it.
• 57:23
  Online live leaderboard with your videos,
• 57:26
  open quarters, semis.
• 57:29
  the most well-rounded moves on because the
• 57:31
  open style workouts.
• 57:32
  Now I like the open style workouts.
• 57:34
  They suit me well,
• 57:35
  but they're different than the next round.
• 57:38
  We don't see that style anymore.
• 57:40
  We don't see them at quarters.
• 57:41
  We don't see them at semifinals.
• 57:43
  You have,
• 57:44
  you can just breeze through the open with
• 57:47
  that style of workout and you don't see
• 57:49
  them again.
• 57:50
  they should still count.
• 57:52
  Like it's still an important part of
• 57:54
  fitness,
• 57:54
  like to be able to move light objects
• 57:58
  fast and chest of our burpees,
• 58:01
  all of that.
• 58:01
  Like I like that in the,
• 58:03
  in the quarterfinal round, like together,
• 58:05
  you would have a better idea of people's
• 58:06
  fitness.
• 58:07
  Cause I think we put way too much
• 58:09
  emphasis at the semifinal and
• 58:13
  quarterfinals,
• 58:14
  let's say for high skill and strength.
• 58:17
  Yeah.
• 58:17
  Power output.
• 58:18
  Yup.
• 58:19
  Um, it's all really like,
• 58:20
  like you're just waiting on a movement,
• 58:22
  whether you can do it or not.
• 58:24
  And you're not heavy breathing as much,
• 58:25
  and you only have to have you breathe
• 58:27
  in the open,
• 58:28
  but the score started back at zero and
• 58:29
  it doesn't matter.
• 58:31
  And, and moved on,
• 58:32
  which is so much for the athletes that
• 58:34
  are at the top.
• 58:36
  So I think this should be combined.
• 58:38
  If you were a top athlete with a
• 58:40
  chance of qualifying,
• 58:40
  there's no chance you wouldn't video it
• 58:42
  just not worth the risk.
• 58:48
  So I know there are people that don't
• 58:51
  like the idea of carrying over the scores.
• 58:53
  I think they're just not seeing it.
• 58:56
  What is their argument, Ben?
• 58:58
  I guess I've missed anyone.
• 59:01
  So the only argument I've heard is John
• 59:03
  Young saying that each level should be a
• 59:05
  complete test.
• 59:07
  I think that it is.
• 59:10
  When we went from a five-week open to
• 59:12
  a three-week open, you could,
• 59:16
  but it is very,
• 59:17
  very hard to make a complete test out
• 59:19
  of three workouts.
• 59:20
  While making it a participation event.
• 59:22
  I think in three tests,
• 59:23
  you could still do a well-balanced.
• 59:25
  Now, is it accessible to everyone?
• 59:28
  No.
• 59:29
  It no longer would be.
• 59:31
  But if we look at the open and
• 59:33
  quarters as the old five-week open with a
• 59:37
  bye week in the middle.
• 59:38
  Yeah.
• 59:40
  And the fifth week is now not only
• 59:42
  testing more skill and heavier stuff,
• 59:46
  but also volume.
• 59:48
  Now you have to do four workouts in
• 59:51
  one weekend or one week,
• 59:53
  whatever it ends up being.
• 59:55
  Now you have the five week open.
• 59:57
  It's just in a different format than it
• 59:59
  was.
• 1:00:00
  It has seven tests, three plus four.
• 1:00:04
  equals seven.
• 1:00:05
  Right?
• 1:00:06
  I teach math tomorrow.
• 1:00:07
  Okay,
• 1:00:07
  make sure I remember after March break,
• 1:00:10
  but then the people that moved on only
• 1:00:12
  those people,
• 1:00:14
  you could you combine the quarters and the
• 1:00:16
  open the open can have its own
• 1:00:17
  leaderboard.
• 1:00:18
  And then the following you add.
• 1:00:20
  So like,
• 1:00:21
  it's almost like a new leaderboard,
• 1:00:22
  you take away all the people that didn't
• 1:00:24
  move on.
• 1:00:24
  And you just have a leaderboard with the
• 1:00:26
  people actually participating in the
• 1:00:28
  quarterfinals.
• 1:00:29
  And it's a leaderboard of them with their
• 1:00:31
  open scores.
• 1:00:32
  All take all caring together.
• 1:00:34
  And Max makes a great point.
• 1:00:36
  It eliminates redundancy.
• 1:00:38
  You don't have to retest those things at
• 1:00:41
  the next level and you get a more
• 1:00:44
  complete test.
• 1:00:45
  And Vicki,
• 1:00:46
  it's not the same as we have today
• 1:00:48
  because you are carrying over those scores
• 1:00:51
  and those cardio things are tested at one
• 1:00:55
  point in this five week competition.
• 1:00:59
  Yeah, it wasn't tested.
• 1:00:59
  So twenty five thousand people move on and
• 1:01:02
  you were just good enough for that.
• 1:01:03
  But then you have very high skill and
• 1:01:04
  strength and all of a sudden that.
• 1:01:07
  Is very important in the next stage,
• 1:01:08
  but you have low fitness.
• 1:01:11
  This is what the WFP should have done,
• 1:01:13
  right?
• 1:01:14
  Like where all the tests carry over and
• 1:01:16
  it's a together one big leaderboard all
• 1:01:20
  season with.
• 1:01:22
  Different styles of tests and then you get
• 1:01:25
  all of this together shows you who's the
• 1:01:27
  fittest.
• 1:01:29
  That's essentially what they're doing next
• 1:01:30
  year with their points.
• 1:01:32
  Like if you got five hundred points,
• 1:01:33
  five hundred points, a thousand points.
• 1:01:35
  That's what that's what it should have
• 1:01:36
  been this year.
• 1:01:37
  But there was a lot of redundancy in
• 1:01:39
  the movement and the styles of events,
• 1:01:40
  whereas it could have been kind of like
• 1:01:43
  what Hiller had proposed in terms of the
• 1:01:45
  events that he did to make it more
• 1:01:47
  well-rounded over the season with
• 1:01:49
  everything combining together.
• 1:01:52
  The only thing I can answer to this,
• 1:01:54
  John,
• 1:01:55
  is if there's no policing of the
• 1:01:56
  leaderboard,
• 1:01:57
  then why would we want to carry scores
• 1:01:59
  over?
• 1:01:59
  Because the more opportunities we get to
• 1:02:02
  test these individuals,
• 1:02:04
  the more opportunity we have to catch the
• 1:02:06
  cheaters.
• 1:02:08
  I agree with this, though.
• 1:02:10
  I think programming needs to be a little
• 1:02:12
  better thought out.
• 1:02:14
  with like,
• 1:02:15
  you can't have these workouts that have
• 1:02:16
  these tiebreak times where literally
• 1:02:18
  twenty thousand people have the exact same
• 1:02:21
  score, but different points.
• 1:02:23
  That's a problem.
• 1:02:24
  You need.
• 1:02:25
  You need to get to quarterfinals.
• 1:02:27
  That's not usually as big a problem as
• 1:02:30
  it is at the open.
• 1:02:32
  Right,
• 1:02:32
  but there are people who aren't making
• 1:02:35
  quarters and not that that's necessarily
• 1:02:37
  the biggest thing,
• 1:02:38
  but there are people not making quarters
• 1:02:40
  because they put in the right tie break
• 1:02:42
  and someone is because they didn't.
• 1:02:45
  That's a problem.
• 1:02:49
  But there is no solution at this point.
• 1:02:52
  So we have to get the best vehicle
• 1:02:55
  we can right now in the current system
• 1:02:57
  we have.
• 1:02:59
  The last thing I want to say about
• 1:03:00
  Dave's week in review is he,
• 1:03:02
  he kind of leaned.
• 1:03:04
  And again, this is just me clue gathering,
• 1:03:06
  not necessarily set out.
• 1:03:07
  Right.
• 1:03:08
  I believe that Dave wants to,
• 1:03:10
  if Dave had the authority to make his
• 1:03:13
  own season,
• 1:03:14
  we would go back to a regional type
• 1:03:17
  format.
• 1:03:18
  And I believe that's what I got out
• 1:03:20
  of what he said.
• 1:03:22
  Hmm.
• 1:03:27
  But I'm not sure everybody got that.
• 1:03:29
  That's what I felt like.
• 1:03:30
  I didn't get that really,
• 1:03:31
  but I don't know.
• 1:03:33
  And that way,
• 1:03:33
  I saw someone say that the invites helped
• 1:03:36
  the people promote their event.
• 1:03:38
  But if you knew that this region had
• 1:03:40
  these athletes,
• 1:03:41
  the promotion would take care of itself.
• 1:03:48
  And I know that people argue,
• 1:03:49
  you have to be healthy on that weekend
• 1:03:51
  and that time to get to the games.
• 1:03:53
  That's every sport.
• 1:03:55
  Yeah.
• 1:03:57
  Every sport.
• 1:03:58
  If you're playing for the Stanley Cup and
• 1:04:01
  Sidney Crosby has the flu the week of
• 1:04:05
  the division championships,
• 1:04:07
  you're screwed.
• 1:04:08
  You don't have Sidney on the ice.
• 1:04:10
  If you're playing for an Olympic gold
• 1:04:11
  medal and Sidney's injured.
• 1:04:13
  That's another great point.
• 1:04:20
  So that is sport.
• 1:04:22
  You have to be healthy when the bell
• 1:04:25
  is rung.
• 1:04:27
  You have to be ready to go on
• 1:04:28
  that day, on that time.
• 1:04:31
  And I think that the further we get
• 1:04:33
  away from that regional format,
• 1:04:35
  the more problems we're seeing.
• 1:04:38
  I agree.
• 1:04:41
  But do you think that would get fixed
• 1:04:42
  if you have to post your video?
• 1:04:45
  Like, let's say at the quarterfinals,
• 1:04:46
  if you're moving on to the quarterfinals,
• 1:04:49
  you have on the quarterfinal leaderboard,
• 1:04:51
  you have to have your open scores now
• 1:04:53
  show up your little video along with your
• 1:04:56
  quarterfinals.
• 1:04:58
  Not a bad idea.
• 1:05:00
  I've always been for publicly showing your
• 1:05:02
  videos.
• 1:05:03
  Agree.
• 1:05:03
  Me too.
• 1:05:06
  And maybe it's not getting policed as
• 1:05:08
  much,
• 1:05:08
  but just the fact that you have to
• 1:05:10
  put your video up makes you think about
• 1:05:11
  your movements.
• 1:05:13
  Yep.
• 1:05:14
  Makes you slow down a little bit.
• 1:05:16
  Just knowing that that could get exposed.
• 1:05:21
  Agreed.
• 1:05:22
  That's all they have to do.
• 1:05:24
  And then you see who's more well-rounded.
• 1:05:27
  I'm going to skip the thing about are
• 1:05:30
  we too critical of the open?
• 1:05:31
  I think it's a great topic,
• 1:05:33
  but we're running out of time.
• 1:05:35
  And Carol and I got into a fight
• 1:05:36
  this week,
• 1:05:37
  so I want to make sure we cover
• 1:05:38
  that.
• 1:05:41
  Should there be a test for athleticism at
• 1:05:45
  the games or during the season?
• 1:05:48
  And before we dive into this,
• 1:05:50
  the question that we fought about was,
• 1:05:54
  That John Wood put out a video saying
• 1:05:56
  that what's been missing is broad jump,
• 1:05:59
  vertical jump, bench press reps,
• 1:06:02
  just like an NFL combine.
• 1:06:05
  Sprinting, agility, four-yard dash,
• 1:06:08
  the pro agility.
• 1:06:10
  In our argument, if it was...
• 1:06:13
  Just a combine.
• 1:06:15
  I don't think it would be fun to
• 1:06:17
  watch after you get past the five top
• 1:06:20
  athletes to do bench press reps,
• 1:06:23
  to do standing vertical,
• 1:06:25
  to do broad jumps.
• 1:06:27
  Yes, it would be.
• 1:06:27
  If there was a way to incorporate it
• 1:06:29
  into a workout, I'm okay with it.
• 1:06:33
  I don't want to watch people on a
• 1:06:34
  machine for, for, for, for, for, for, for,
• 1:06:35
  for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for,
• 1:06:36
  for, for, for, for, for,
• 1:06:36
  I would rather watch a, a four-year dash.
• 1:06:40
  I would rather watch.
• 1:06:42
  Someone do three broad jobs.
• 1:06:43
  I don't know if they're quick anyways.
• 1:06:49
  I would love to see that every,
• 1:06:52
  almost every single sport use these as
• 1:06:55
  their fitness tests.
• 1:06:56
  And we don't, and this is,
• 1:06:57
  we're supposed to be testing fitness.
• 1:06:59
  We test the same distances of running the
• 1:07:01
  middle and a little bit longer.
• 1:07:03
  Every single time.
• 1:07:04
  No one wants to program a sprint and
• 1:07:05
  true sprint.
• 1:07:06
  It gets programmed once every five years
• 1:07:08
  at the games.
• 1:07:09
  Maybe.
• 1:07:12
  We don't test any type of power jumping.
• 1:07:15
  It's machine power.
• 1:07:19
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• 1:07:32
  Thank you, Vicky, for the segue.
• 1:07:36
  So you came up with, Carolyn,
• 1:07:39
  a pentathlon program.
• 1:07:41
  Heptathlon.
• 1:07:42
  Heptathlon.
• 1:07:43
  Seven events.
• 1:07:45
  Seven events.
• 1:07:47
  To test athleticism.
• 1:07:51
  Now, my question to you is,
• 1:07:53
  is this in place of the games?
• 1:07:56
  Is this in place of something else that
• 1:07:57
  is out there?
• 1:07:59
  Or is this, this would be a test.
• 1:08:01
  I'd want, I like basically like a xenon.
• 1:08:04
  That's the same or whatever.
• 1:08:08
  Not as part of the games or the
• 1:08:10
  game season.
• 1:08:10
  I mean, it could be.
• 1:08:12
  It could be.
• 1:08:16
  Okay.
• 1:08:21
  Why not?
• 1:08:22
  Let us know what your heptathlon is.
• 1:08:23
  Okay, event one A, zigzag sprint,
• 1:08:27
  fifty points.
• 1:08:29
  One B, three broad jumps for distance.
• 1:08:30
  So you get like your agility, speed.
• 1:08:34
  Right there.
• 1:08:35
  And then the three broad jump.
• 1:08:36
  I like the three, like, like one, two,
• 1:08:39
  three.
• 1:08:40
  You could do the vertical or broad jump
• 1:08:42
  there.
• 1:08:43
  If you step on a line,
• 1:08:43
  do you get a zero?
• 1:08:44
  There's no line.
• 1:08:46
  Okay.
• 1:08:47
  Yep.
• 1:08:48
  You go around pylons.
• 1:08:50
  People don't know.
• 1:08:51
  People do not know how to cut at
• 1:08:53
  the games.
• 1:08:54
  I had it last time.
• 1:08:55
  People got a penalty for stepping on.
• 1:08:58
  Do you get a penalty at the Olympics
• 1:08:59
  for stepping on a line?
• 1:09:00
  Yep.
• 1:09:01
  They got told no.
• 1:09:02
  They had plenty of space.
• 1:09:06
  yeah then event two then you can do
• 1:09:08
  a distance like three k run uh two
• 1:09:11
  bike two k biker one k ski some
• 1:09:14
  sort of longer you can even go ten
• 1:09:16
  k run i don't even care a run
• 1:09:18
  long distance run with a bike if you
• 1:09:20
  want then event three and i would want
• 1:09:25
  this test to be more accessible to like
• 1:09:28
  more people world like i don't want that
• 1:09:30
  much kipping
• 1:09:32
  CrossFit so dependent.
• 1:09:34
  Like I want people that any sport could
• 1:09:37
  also do,
• 1:09:38
  but they have to learn some like CrossFit
• 1:09:39
  things of course.
• 1:09:40
  But yeah.
• 1:09:46
  Again,
• 1:09:46
  I came up with this in about half
• 1:09:47
  hour this weekend.
• 1:09:51
  It would be like seventy five toes to
• 1:09:53
  bars, fifty burpee box jump overs,
• 1:09:54
  twenty five thrusters and then twelve
• 1:09:56
  slash ten rope climbs.
• 1:09:59
  For one event,
• 1:09:59
  that'd be like more CrossFit-y.
• 1:10:01
  Straight chipper through, not, you can't.
• 1:10:03
  Straight chipper through.
• 1:10:05
  Okay.
• 1:10:05
  Then you have a strength event,
• 1:10:06
  one rep max weighted strict pull up.
• 1:10:09
  They did that at the games.
• 1:10:10
  That was.
• 1:10:11
  Three rep max bench press,
• 1:10:13
  five rep max back squat.
• 1:10:15
  A little bit like,
• 1:10:16
  so that's like your power stuff.
• 1:10:18
  So you have a upper body pull, lower,
• 1:10:21
  you have a press in there and then
• 1:10:23
  lower body squat.
• 1:10:25
  An O course.
• 1:10:26
  I want to see an O course.
• 1:10:27
  I want to see people jump over things,
• 1:10:29
  go under cargo net, monkey bars,
• 1:10:32
  balance beam,
• 1:10:33
  go through some sort of O course.
• 1:10:35
  I think that's huge in fitness.
• 1:10:38
  You can get like a lot done in
• 1:10:40
  an O course.
• 1:10:41
  Especially if you don't want to do the
• 1:10:42
  zigzag sprint,
• 1:10:43
  I think an O course needs to be
• 1:10:44
  there.
• 1:10:45
  Then another type of like CrossFit event,
• 1:10:51
  something with like running sandbag
• 1:10:52
  lunges, bar muscle ups, handstand walking,
• 1:10:57
  like a classic more CrossFit event you
• 1:10:59
  could do.
• 1:11:01
  I did bar muscle ups instead of ring
• 1:11:02
  muscle up just to make it a little
• 1:11:04
  bit more accessible to people that they
• 1:11:05
  could learn.
• 1:11:08
  And then I want like an Olympic lifting
• 1:11:10
  cycle event.
• 1:11:12
  With like, thirty power snatches,
• 1:11:13
  thirty overhead squats,
• 1:11:14
  thirty power cleans,
• 1:11:17
  thirty shoulder to overhead.
• 1:11:18
  At a certain weight, like.
• 1:11:21
  Who's going to cycle it better?
• 1:11:25
  So.
• 1:11:25
  So you have Olympic lifting,
• 1:11:26
  you have a strength thing,
• 1:11:27
  you have like cardio long distance.
• 1:11:30
  I don't care about that.
• 1:11:30
  Like what?
• 1:11:31
  If you want to do a ten K
• 1:11:32
  run, I don't care.
• 1:11:33
  You have an old course to CrossFit events
• 1:11:37
  and sprinting.
• 1:11:41
  Uh, someone says,
• 1:11:42
  I don't know if you know them, uh,
• 1:11:43
  says we know what we won't see in
• 1:11:45
  Carolyn's heptathlon double unders.
• 1:11:47
  I don't think skipping needs to be there.
• 1:11:50
  Like I, like if you can skip, sure.
• 1:11:52
  I don't think it's so important for
• 1:11:53
  fitness.
• 1:11:54
  I really don't.
• 1:11:55
  And I'm not just saying that, like,
• 1:11:56
  I don't think like if we can get
• 1:11:57
  other type of coordination things in
• 1:11:59
  there,
• 1:12:00
  that's way more valuable than double
• 1:12:01
  unders, but sure.
• 1:12:03
  I don't care.
• 1:12:04
  Put it in one of the CrossFit chippers,
• 1:12:07
  put a bunch of rounds of,
• 1:12:08
  I don't know,
• 1:12:09
  a hundred double unders in there.
• 1:12:11
  So my thought process was if we're going
• 1:12:14
  to test,
• 1:12:14
  I think we should test athleticism.
• 1:12:16
  I think we should find a way.
• 1:12:18
  I think the O course is the way
• 1:12:20
  to do it because you can add elements
• 1:12:22
  that you just talked about in your
• 1:12:24
  heptathlon into an O course.
• 1:12:27
  You can have a zigzag run as part
• 1:12:29
  of the O course.
• 1:12:32
  You can jump over it.
• 1:12:33
  And it takes me back because I'm old
• 1:12:35
  to the superstars competitions they used
• 1:12:38
  to have on ABC's Wild World of Sports
• 1:12:41
  where they would bring in athletes from
• 1:12:42
  different sports.
• 1:12:43
  And the last event was an obstacle course.
• 1:12:47
  And they'd have to get up over a
• 1:12:48
  wall.
• 1:12:49
  They'd have to go under a net.
• 1:12:51
  They'd have to hurdle.
• 1:12:54
  They'd have to swing on a rope over
• 1:12:55
  a pool.
• 1:12:57
  And we could update it for things that
• 1:13:00
  were cooler today and make it really fun.
• 1:13:04
  You might have to jump up and hit
• 1:13:06
  a bell just to get a vertical jump
• 1:13:08
  in there somehow, right?
• 1:13:12
  So I think that is the missing piece
• 1:13:15
  to testing athleticism at the games.
• 1:13:18
  But how often do they do that?
• 1:13:20
  They don't.
• 1:13:21
  It's not been since twenty eighteen.
• 1:13:25
  Eighteen was the where they had to carry
• 1:13:28
  the dummy at the final leg of the...
• 1:13:30
  Yeah, Randy.
• 1:13:32
  Yeah, rescue Randy.
• 1:13:34
  Rescue Randy.
• 1:13:36
  So, Judy,
• 1:13:37
  not quite a ninja course because ninja is
• 1:13:39
  a lot of grip.
• 1:13:40
  Yeah, not so technical.
• 1:13:43
  Right.
• 1:13:43
  Where this would be more running
• 1:13:46
  athleticism,
• 1:13:47
  jumping the stuff that lateral movement
• 1:13:51
  that we don't see ever in a CrossFit
• 1:13:53
  event.
• 1:13:54
  Um, so.
• 1:13:58
  Yeah.
• 1:13:58
  If we had an old course and I
• 1:14:00
  still,
• 1:14:01
  I would want a four yard dash then
• 1:14:02
  I,
• 1:14:02
  then I would take out the zigzag and
• 1:14:04
  just,
• 1:14:04
  I want to see people sprint like a,
• 1:14:05
  just a pure sub ten seconds.
• 1:14:09
  want to see people well i guess the
• 1:14:10
  four yard dash would not be ten seconds
• 1:14:11
  for people like most people would be like
• 1:14:14
  i don't know five to six seconds maybe
• 1:14:18
  for crossfitters uh so i don't know what
• 1:14:22
  clock cutter has against navy seals um but
• 1:14:24
  he says their of course is lame you
• 1:14:26
  need to be a marine of course all
• 1:14:29
  about speed and power
• 1:14:32
  i we could make up our own o
• 1:14:34
  course yeah there's so many elements that
• 1:14:36
  could be added rogue has added like the
• 1:14:38
  over under on the logs that's a great
• 1:14:40
  thing you could put a i think it'd
• 1:14:42
  be some sort of balance like walk across
• 1:14:45
  something that yeah uh vicky says like a
• 1:14:52
  military course rest two minutes and then
• 1:14:54
  dash love that i would love a fifth
• 1:14:57
  year dash i'm never gonna get that in
• 1:14:59
  an event ever
• 1:15:01
  But yeah, that should be in there.
• 1:15:03
  We never test speed.
• 1:15:06
  We talk about people are sucky at running.
• 1:15:09
  Okay, maybe distance,
• 1:15:11
  but they might be really good sprinters.
• 1:15:13
  You just don't know it.
• 1:15:16
  You never do it.
• 1:15:19
  All my old guys in here remember the
• 1:15:21
  ABC superstars.
• 1:15:22
  I see that.
• 1:15:24
  Yeah.
• 1:15:24
  It was one of my favorite events as
• 1:15:26
  a kid to watch.
• 1:15:28
  Because you had people from the Olympics,
• 1:15:29
  people from football,
• 1:15:30
  people from baseball, all doing this one.
• 1:15:35
  They had like ten events.
• 1:15:36
  You had to do at least six or
• 1:15:39
  seven of them.
• 1:15:41
  And it was great.
• 1:15:46
  I saw Ken said he did a hundred
• 1:15:47
  and six pound pull up.
• 1:15:48
  That's impressive.
• 1:15:49
  Ken.
• 1:15:52
  Uh, CrossFit says add Nerf guns, targets,
• 1:15:54
  and some roided out guy with a full
• 1:15:56
  auto tennis ball gun stopping you.
• 1:15:58
  No, we're not doing American gladiators.
• 1:16:01
  Danny Spiegel can go do that.
• 1:16:05
  And no Judy,
• 1:16:06
  it wasn't Falcon press versus Dallas.
• 1:16:08
  That was battle of the network stars,
• 1:16:10
  not the ABC superstars.
• 1:16:15
  I still feel the CrossFitter would be more
• 1:16:18
  well-rounded and like would win an event
• 1:16:21
  like this because there is CrossFit
• 1:16:23
  things, but there's not so much,
• 1:16:24
  it's not so dependent on CrossFit where
• 1:16:27
  you have to kip on every single movement
• 1:16:28
  or only do CrossFit.
• 1:16:30
  Like you could still excel at other
• 1:16:33
  events.
• 1:16:33
  I think maybe a grunt work workout with
• 1:16:35
  like more sandbag things could be in
• 1:16:36
  there, like a moving,
• 1:16:37
  displacing objects from like,
• 1:16:39
  I like those too.
• 1:16:41
  But again, I was, this is fast,
• 1:16:43
  but something like that.
• 1:16:48
  You think no one would want to see
• 1:16:50
  a combine from CrossFitters?
• 1:16:52
  I think you're so wrong.
• 1:16:53
  I think people want to see the numbers.
• 1:16:55
  I don't think they want it played out
• 1:16:57
  with thirty athletes going through
• 1:17:00
  every... It would have to be quick.
• 1:17:03
  Or like someone said, day one,
• 1:17:05
  post-production, show the highlights.
• 1:17:07
  That could be cool.
• 1:17:11
  And I'm not saying it's like seeing the
• 1:17:13
  top whatever do what they do,
• 1:17:16
  but to see like we don't need to
• 1:17:18
  see Jason Kalipa throw a softball.
• 1:17:23
  Okay, I would love a throwing event.
• 1:17:27
  But we're getting a little bit away from
• 1:17:30
  what I think fitness,
• 1:17:31
  but that's more athleticism, I think then.
• 1:17:37
  Uh,
• 1:17:37
  didn't brute try this with Brooke Hanson
• 1:17:39
  DB.
• 1:17:39
  There was a competition between different
• 1:17:43
  like fitness sports.
• 1:17:45
  Um,
• 1:17:45
  where I think like CrossFit CrossFitters
• 1:17:49
  always win that whatever.
• 1:17:50
  Um, and she did it in general.
• 1:17:55
  Yeah, they should.
• 1:18:02
  So there it is.
• 1:18:05
  Wheelbarrow event was so cool.
• 1:18:08
  Yeah.
• 1:18:08
  We don't have any of that fun stuff
• 1:18:10
  anymore.
• 1:18:11
  No.
• 1:18:12
  Yeah.
• 1:18:13
  We had to like throw the sandbags up
• 1:18:14
  over the wall, climb up over the wall,
• 1:18:16
  run to the top of the steps.
• 1:18:18
  Like to me, that's fitness.
• 1:18:19
  That's functional fitness.
• 1:18:20
  And anyone can do it.
• 1:18:22
  And people would like some people would
• 1:18:25
  just be better at it.
• 1:18:27
  Moving more fluidly,
• 1:18:28
  smartly under heavy breathing.
• 1:18:32
  I like that stuff.
• 1:18:34
  Yeah.
• 1:18:36
  The last thing I wanted to talk about,
• 1:18:38
  just because you did win the lottery to
• 1:18:40
  get an entry into Xenon and the owner
• 1:18:44
  founder has been on so many podcasts since
• 1:18:46
  then.
• 1:18:47
  As he should.
• 1:18:49
  He should.
• 1:18:50
  He should go on all the CrossFit stuff
• 1:18:52
  if he's trying to build this up.
• 1:18:54
  So my question to you is first is
• 1:18:58
  with their partnership with CrossFit,
• 1:19:01
  They have hit the ground running more than
• 1:19:05
  any other venture.
• 1:19:07
  Because before the show tonight,
• 1:19:09
  we talked about ATHX.
• 1:19:15
  We had a lot of CrossFitters doing that
• 1:19:16
  in Miami.
• 1:19:17
  I reached out to Emily Rolfe to see
• 1:19:19
  what that was like so I could get
• 1:19:21
  a sense as to what it was.
• 1:19:24
  But none of those have got the promotion
• 1:19:26
  that Xenon has gotten because it is an
• 1:19:29
  official partner of CrossFit.
• 1:19:31
  Yep.
• 1:19:32
  and rogue is an official partner with
• 1:19:35
  those and they have a lot of money
• 1:19:37
  like two big hitters from hollywood have
• 1:19:40
  backed this whole thing uh crossfit says
• 1:19:46
  he talks better than he speaks better than
• 1:19:48
  will he does he has a plan he
• 1:19:50
  knows what he wants out of this and
• 1:19:52
  he communicates it very well um
• 1:20:00
  So the one thing he said is,
• 1:20:04
  because people asked him about the price
• 1:20:05
  and he said, this is like,
• 1:20:08
  we want to give people the ultimate
• 1:20:11
  experience.
• 1:20:13
  They are going to be catered to from
• 1:20:15
  the minute they get there to the minute
• 1:20:17
  they are done.
• 1:20:20
  And I was like,
• 1:20:21
  if they pull that off and that is
• 1:20:24
  not an empty promise,
• 1:20:27
  this thing is going to take off.
• 1:20:29
  What High Rocks does very, very well
• 1:20:32
  and Xenom or CrossFit should do something
• 1:20:35
  like this for like a mass participatory
• 1:20:37
  event is like the beginning and the end
• 1:20:39
  of High Rocks with the whole production,
• 1:20:41
  like the video before you go and the
• 1:20:43
  whole pep rally thingy before.
• 1:20:46
  Then you get your picture with your time,
• 1:20:48
  all of that.
• 1:20:49
  If they can create an experience for the
• 1:20:52
  regular athlete to make them feel special
• 1:20:55
  that day on like what all of their
• 1:20:57
  scores are so that they can put it
• 1:20:58
  on their social media,
• 1:21:00
  that's how it's gonna blow up.
• 1:21:02
  Because people want that picture with
• 1:21:04
  their score and like,
• 1:21:06
  and like that initial video,
• 1:21:08
  they remember that from their event.
• 1:21:11
  So I think if they focused on some
• 1:21:12
  of that,
• 1:21:14
  I think a lot of the athletes,
• 1:21:16
  if they can get some good, like,
• 1:21:18
  no offense, like content stuff out of it,
• 1:21:21
  it's going to continue to grow.
• 1:21:24
  Well,
• 1:21:24
  and like he said something about swag.
• 1:21:30
  Can you imagine going and having like a
• 1:21:32
  jersey made for you?
• 1:21:34
  Like an outfit you get to wear on
• 1:21:35
  the course?
• 1:21:38
  Maybe two, one for one day,
• 1:21:40
  one for the other.
• 1:21:42
  There are people that want to get to
• 1:21:43
  the games just for that.
• 1:21:47
  Right?
• 1:21:47
  And if you could do that as just
• 1:21:49
  an everyday athlete and go compete,
• 1:21:52
  they're only allowing two thousand people.
• 1:21:55
  High Rocks puts through ten thousand.
• 1:21:57
  The volume is so much lower.
• 1:21:59
  You can do so much more for them
• 1:22:01
  at that level of participation.
• 1:22:05
  And they're only letting like a S even
• 1:22:08
  smaller handful be elite.
• 1:22:11
  Everybody else will be our RX or compete.
• 1:22:15
  So like, it's going to be,
• 1:22:20
  I think if they pull that off,
• 1:22:21
  it's going to be amazing.
• 1:22:24
  Yeah,
• 1:22:25
  if the athlete can feel like a
• 1:22:27
  professional athlete or like a superhuman
• 1:22:30
  for the day or the weekend,
• 1:22:31
  that's going to be – that's their seller.
• 1:22:37
  It's train with Rich, Coach K Camp,
• 1:22:39
  or whatever, Richard Petty Experience.
• 1:22:42
  Yeah,
• 1:22:43
  it's going to be like a – it
• 1:22:45
  could be like a fantasy camp.
• 1:22:48
  You have people like Carolyn who is a
• 1:22:50
  games athlete
• 1:22:52
  She could,
• 1:22:53
  she's going to be there and right
• 1:22:54
  alongside her,
• 1:22:55
  you're doing the same events in the RX
• 1:22:58
  division and you get the same swag and
• 1:23:03
  you get to warm up on the same
• 1:23:04
  equipment.
• 1:23:05
  You get to do the,
• 1:23:06
  it's going to be a pretty cool,
• 1:23:10
  pretty cool event.
• 1:23:11
  I think there are people just,
• 1:23:18
  I think they've lost their minds.
• 1:23:27
  They should do a pro-am team event where
• 1:23:30
  you get paired with an elite.
• 1:23:31
  They charge more than five hundred for
• 1:23:33
  that.
• 1:23:33
  Yeah.
• 1:23:35
  Way more.
• 1:23:35
  Yeah.
• 1:23:40
  That would be my nightmare.
• 1:23:42
  My nightmare would be teamed with Jamie or
• 1:23:45
  Carolyn to do a workout.
• 1:23:47
  You would sign up trying to keep up.
• 1:23:51
  Yeah.
• 1:23:52
  They wouldn't just pair people.
• 1:23:53
  You'd sign up for that experience.
• 1:23:58
  Yeah.
• 1:23:59
  Ken,
• 1:23:59
  get your ass kicked by a games athlete.
• 1:24:01
  Yeah.
• 1:24:03
  Yeah.
• 1:24:04
  Don't sign me up for that.
• 1:24:06
  And I'm going to pay what for that?
• 1:24:11
  I get that every day in my own
• 1:24:12
  box.
• 1:24:12
  I don't need to go pay for that.
• 1:24:16
  Um,
• 1:24:18
  One hundred percent,
• 1:24:19
  but I bet a lot of people would
• 1:24:20
  be willing to pay to pair with.
• 1:24:22
  Oh, I'm I am not discrediting your idea,
• 1:24:24
  Vicky.
• 1:24:25
  I am sure there are tons of people
• 1:24:27
  that think they are the cock of the
• 1:24:29
  walk and could hang with a games athlete
• 1:24:33
  and they would be sorely mistaken,
• 1:24:36
  but they would pay to see it.
• 1:24:42
  That's like when Sean Taylor leveled a
• 1:24:44
  punter at the Pro Bowl or Pete Rose
• 1:24:46
  ran over the catcher at home plate in
• 1:24:48
  an All-Star game.
• 1:24:54
  Uh, the,
• 1:24:54
  what are the walk at the cock of
• 1:24:57
  the walk?
• 1:24:59
  I grew up in farm country people.
• 1:25:06
  Uh, I don't know, Scott,
• 1:25:07
  one rep max squad is your jam.
• 1:25:09
  My luck that would never appear,
• 1:25:12
  never appeared.
• 1:25:13
  One of these things.
• 1:25:18
  So now we have high rocks.
• 1:25:21
  We have CrossFit game season.
• 1:25:24
  We have Xenon.
• 1:25:25
  We have WFP.
• 1:25:27
  We have athletes, ethics, ethics, ethics.
• 1:25:34
  I talked to Emily Rolf about it.
• 1:25:35
  She did one yesterday.
• 1:25:37
  Yeah.
• 1:25:39
  Um, ethics,
• 1:25:40
  she said is a cross between high rocks
• 1:25:42
  and a CrossFit competition.
• 1:25:45
  Um,
• 1:25:45
  it's two hours and you're done and it's
• 1:25:48
  one strength event, one endurance event,
• 1:25:50
  one CrossFit event.
• 1:25:53
  Um, she had a lot of fun,
• 1:25:56
  but it didn't look like it was the
• 1:25:58
  big,
• 1:26:01
  the big thing that high rocks does for
• 1:26:02
  the athlete.
• 1:26:06
  So I don't know.
• 1:26:07
  There's all these options out there now.
• 1:26:10
  Do you think some will survive and some
• 1:26:12
  will die?
• 1:26:13
  Do you think,
• 1:26:14
  because WFP is trying to do this community
• 1:26:17
  event too.
• 1:26:21
  Yeah.
• 1:26:21
  Just came up, like send an email,
• 1:26:22
  like last week to people about their event
• 1:26:24
  coming up.
• 1:26:26
  So everybody's jumping in this pool
• 1:26:29
  because they see what high rocks has done.
• 1:26:33
  We know that happened with mud runs.
• 1:26:36
  Yeah.
• 1:26:37
  Right now.
• 1:26:38
  Then there were so many of them.
• 1:26:39
  They watered down and they fell out of
• 1:26:41
  favor.
• 1:26:43
  Do we think the same thing's going to
• 1:26:45
  happen in this vein?
• 1:26:48
  I don't think all of these can like
• 1:26:51
  coexist.
• 1:26:53
  Like,
• 1:26:55
  At a certain point,
• 1:26:56
  I think some of them will disappear.
• 1:27:02
  Like there's so many.
• 1:27:04
  What's the other one?
• 1:27:05
  There's another one too.
• 1:27:06
  I'm forgetting.
• 1:27:09
  It was in Dubai, I think.
• 1:27:12
  Oh.
• 1:27:15
  Like FitFast?
• 1:27:17
  No.
• 1:27:21
  There was another one also recently.
• 1:27:22
  F-Forty-Five makes high rock squats look
• 1:27:24
  deep.
• 1:27:27
  The,
• 1:27:27
  the thing that they just recently did with
• 1:27:29
  like that Jesse Smith went to and they
• 1:27:33
  like had a squat.
• 1:27:34
  They had,
• 1:27:35
  I feel like they had like these specific
• 1:27:37
  events crucible.
• 1:27:39
  That's what I was thinking of.
• 1:27:39
  Thank you, Phil.
• 1:27:42
  The Arnold,
• 1:27:46
  the Arnold doesn't really have that.
• 1:27:47
  It's it's specific niche sports at the
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  Arnold and it's once a year.
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  Well, they have one in the UK.
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  They have one in Columbus.
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  They have one in Australia, but they're,
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  but they're not like these types of
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  community events.
• 1:28:05
  They are like, Hey, we have strong man.
• 1:28:07
  Hey, we have bodybuilding.
• 1:28:09
  Hey, we have Highland games.
• 1:28:13
  We have ax throwing.
• 1:28:16
  We have jump rope specialists.
• 1:28:22
  I don't think Canwest is around anymore,
• 1:28:24
  Kenneth.
• 1:28:25
  I think it has died and gone to
• 1:28:26
  heaven.
• 1:28:34
  Anyway, with that,
• 1:28:37
  speaking of died and gone to heaven,
• 1:28:38
  Chuck Norris, may he rest in peace.
• 1:28:42
  Has anything come out on that?
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  Uh, not that I've seen,
• 1:28:47
  but I did see,
• 1:28:47
  I'm getting all the Chuck Norris jokes now
• 1:28:49
  on my feed on Instagram.
• 1:28:52
  And he was an expendables to one of
• 1:28:55
  the high,
• 1:28:56
  the highlight of the movie is the whole
• 1:28:58
  team is pinned down.
• 1:29:00
  They're going to go out and basically
• 1:29:02
  suicide and try to take out the enemy.
• 1:29:04
  And all of a sudden they hear a
• 1:29:05
  ton of bullets and all the guys are
• 1:29:07
  dead.
• 1:29:07
  And Chuck Norris walks out with his gun.
• 1:29:10
  And he's taken out everybody.
• 1:29:12
  And they kind of cordially talk to each
• 1:29:16
  other.
• 1:29:16
  And then Chuck Norris says,
• 1:29:18
  I got bit by a cobra once.
• 1:29:20
  After five days of excruciating pain,
• 1:29:22
  the cobra died.
• 1:29:28
  But I was a big Chuck Norris fan
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  in the eighties.
• 1:29:32
  I loved his eighties action movies.
• 1:29:36
  And man, I'm getting old.
• 1:29:40
  All my childhood heroes are passing on and
• 1:29:45
  that's tough.
• 1:29:47
  Chuck Norris did not die.
• 1:29:49
  He just got tired of going undefeated on
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  earth.
• 1:29:54
  Chuck Norris would have completed twenty
• 1:29:56
  six, three and twelve minutes.
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  Yeah.
• 1:30:01
  I also heard that Chuck Norris didn't die.
• 1:30:04
  God needed a break and Chuck was the
• 1:30:05
  only person he trusted.
• 1:30:09
  But my favorite one,
• 1:30:10
  my favorite one is Chuck Norris is so
• 1:30:13
  awesome.
• 1:30:15
  Cats say they have Chuck like reflexes.
• 1:30:17
  Oh, that's nice.
• 1:30:18
  I like that one.
• 1:30:27
  My best Chuck Norris fact is that he
• 1:30:29
  carried rocks around in his hands to work
• 1:30:31
  on his grip.
• 1:30:35
  Crazy.
• 1:30:38
  And then when the eyes of a ranger
• 1:30:40
  are upon you.
• 1:30:41
  I was not a Texas Ranger fan.
• 1:30:46
  Chuck wears a hat to protect the sun.
• 1:30:49
  Medicine takes Chuck Norris when they are
• 1:30:51
  sick.
• 1:30:53
  I like the commercial with the old guys
• 1:30:54
  in the salt shaker.
• 1:30:55
  That is a great commercial.
• 1:30:57
  That's where I got the cats even say
• 1:31:00
  they have Chuck-like reflexes was from
• 1:31:02
  that commercial.
• 1:31:04
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• 1:31:05
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