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Steve Abel: Green Party MP on their emissions reduction plan · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The Greens have launched their alternative missions Reduction Plan here
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  Speaker 1: as a plan will more than double our current work
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  Speaker 1: to curb climate change. Agriculture will be part of the
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  Speaker 1: emissions trading scheme again, and a new Ministry of Green
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  Speaker 1: Works will be established to work on renewable infrastructure. And
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  Speaker 1: the plan will be key in the next pre election
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  Speaker 1: pitch to voters. And Steve Abel as a Green Party
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  Speaker 1: MP and our spokesperson, this morning. Good what is you, Steve?
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Andrew.
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  Speaker 1: I'd taught me quickly through the plan bullet.
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  Speaker 2: Points, basically in simple terms that it's say, it's a
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  Speaker 2: blueprint for how we decalbonize all the different sectors of
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  Speaker 2: society and the economy, and it takes on the important
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  Speaker 2: task of working out how we practically do a lot
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  Speaker 2: of that stuff. The current government plan is not on
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  Speaker 2: track to achieve our later targets and will struggle to
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  Speaker 2: meet the current ones. And this one will increase our
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  Speaker 2: reductions by five times what this government will achieve. Not
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  Speaker 2: to mention the fact that basically, because we'll properly invest
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  Speaker 2: in what is necessary to reduce our missions and think
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  Speaker 2: of it as a whole pul.
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  Speaker 1: Challenge, I've read the report. Where do you get the
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  Speaker 1: number from? Because it's very low on great details, and
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  Speaker 1: it somehow you've said this will be five times.
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  Speaker 2: Better because if you model things like lowering the camp
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  Speaker 2: ponds that motion fertilizer for example in agriculture predomin dairy farming,
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  Speaker 2: you finally get quite substantial cuts and emissions. If you
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  Speaker 2: probably electrify our transport fleet. For example, in one of
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  Speaker 2: the big opportunities we have in designers, we have already
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  Speaker 2: a big renewable creen energy electricity system. If we grow
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  Speaker 2: the size of that electricity system and then use a
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  Speaker 2: lot of that additional energy for electrifying transport from trains
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  Speaker 2: to buses to cars, get huge cuts in the amount
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  Speaker 2: of emissions we're currently producing.
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  Speaker 1: And that's true, and you say, if you grow the
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  Speaker 1: electricity system, But reading the plan, the plan and targets
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  Speaker 1: areas like justice and the treaty, improving the emission training scheme,
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  Speaker 1: and also sustainable land use. But there's very little. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: there's only really a sentence on how you're going to
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  Speaker 1: extend power generation. Surely the key to fighting pollution and
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  Speaker 1: climate change is green power generation, so why no detail
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  Speaker 1: on that?
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  Speaker 2: So we've done more substantive detail. In the past of
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  Speaker 2: twenty ten election campaign, we had the Clean Power Payment,
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  Speaker 2: which was a massive investment in solarization, distributed solarization, which
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  Speaker 2: allowed households to lower their energy bills through investing in
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  Speaker 2: solar and batteries and put in public money to support that.
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  Speaker 2: They happen up to a thirty thousand dollars grand for
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  Speaker 2: each household. And those sorts of substantial invested investments start
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  Speaker 2: shifting the nature of the grid. They start allowing us
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  Speaker 2: to actually get that overbuild of electricity that we need
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  Speaker 2: to do close to.
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  Speaker 1: Elect Absolutely, that's so the key because currently you know,
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  Speaker 1: we need coal for ten percent of our power. And
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  Speaker 1: if you take the ten percent off, if you came
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  Speaker 1: into power and said, right, that's it, no more coal
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  Speaker 1: because coal's dirty and yucky, that's ten percent, that's our economy.
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  Speaker 1: That's ten percent of the power of our economy. And
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  Speaker 1: so you have to be able to replace that power
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  Speaker 1: or are you telling us, are you telling us that
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  Speaker 1: if the Green's got into charge and did this, we
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  Speaker 1: would take a hit and have less power.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely not of its exactly opposite. And Genesis Energy, for example,
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  Speaker 2: who run the Hardly Power station is said. The future
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  Speaker 2: of that power source is bio mass. We have this
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  Speaker 2: phenomenal resource in biomass, meaning the residue pine waste that
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  Speaker 2: we have in our current system which currently ends up
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  Speaker 2: washing down and slash into our rivers, that could be
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  Speaker 2: used in many industries that are observing that that could
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  Speaker 2: be used to be converted into woody buy a mass
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  Speaker 2: that could be burned instead of coal. So those are
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  Speaker 2: the sorts of opportunities that we have that aren't being
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  Speaker 2: exploited currently, and we will reinvest the money that we
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  Speaker 2: get from emissions trading scheme into supporting industry and make
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  Speaker 2: those decapitalization choices.
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  Speaker 1: Steve, thank you for joining us this morning, and hey,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, Merry Christmas.
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