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Jilted dental hygienist hires HITMAN · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Police go on the hunt
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Speaker 1: for the person that guns down a gorgeous pediatric dentist
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Speaker 1: as she parks in the garage of her luxury Dallas
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Speaker 1: apartment building. But who would want to kill a lady
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Speaker 1: pediatric dentist? Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. One female is
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Speaker 1: possibly shot in the nat Authority said the thirty five
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Speaker 1: year old dentist was gunned down Wednesday night, shortly after
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Speaker 1: pulling into the parking garage of her apartment building. Detectives
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Speaker 1: released surveillance images of a vehicle of interest, an older
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Speaker 1: modeled Jeep Cherokee with feated paint. They say that car
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Speaker 1: slipped past the security gate when the driver followed another
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Speaker 1: car through just before Hatcher arrived home. The individual appears
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Speaker 1: to walk in her direction. We witnesses subscribe, hearing the gunshot,
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Speaker 1: and the individual gets back in the car. MMMM, that's
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Speaker 1: not right, as if any murder is right. But I
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Speaker 1: don't hear about a rape. I don't hear about trying
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Speaker 1: to carjack her vehicle. I don't hear anything about stealing
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Speaker 1: her pocketbook or her jewelry. She's described as glamorous. Glamorous
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Speaker 1: that means to me, she's probably dripping in beautiful jewelry.
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Speaker 1: So why with someone pull into the garage? They snuck in?
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Speaker 1: By the way, did you hear that you were listening
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Speaker 1: to our friend Carrie Sanders at NBC snuck in? I've
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Speaker 1: done it myself. When one car goes under the gate
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Speaker 1: as it lifts, you just scoot in behind them. So
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Speaker 1: who is this person that scoots in walks up to
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Speaker 1: this quote? Glamorous pediatric dentist, guns are down and leaves.
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Speaker 1: Not a rape, not a robbery, not a carjack Again,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I see, Grace, this is crime story. Thanks
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Speaker 1: for being with us as we try to make sense
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Speaker 1: of all of this and with me and all Star panel,
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Speaker 1: and boy do I mean it? James Shelna twenty seven
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Speaker 1: years Smetro major Case now lawyer with his own firm,
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Speaker 1: Shelna Law Firm dot Com Catch this and Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia. Man,
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Speaker 1: You're taking over the world. To doctor Jen Man, marriage
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Speaker 1: and family therapist, host of Couples Therapy, Family Therapy H one,
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Speaker 1: The Doctor Jen Show, Serious Sex m author of The
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Speaker 1: Relationship Fix. Doctor Jens sixth step Guide to improving communication
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Speaker 1: connection and intimacy while I'm almost oude of breath. You
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Speaker 1: can find her at doctor Jen dot com. Doctor Tim
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Speaker 1: Gallagher the medical examiner for the entire state of Florida
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Speaker 1: at pathcaremed dot com. When he's not performing autopsies. Now
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Speaker 1: in the thousands, he's a lecturer a forensic medicine at
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Speaker 1: University of Florida. Cheryl McCullum, founder director of the Coldcase
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Speaker 1: Research Institute. You can find her at Coldcase Crimes dot org.
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Speaker 1: She's a forensics expert. But first to Alexis Treschuck, crime
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Speaker 1: online dot com investigative reporter, also would lead Stories dot com.
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Speaker 1: Alexis Terrestchuck right there. Not to say that a murder
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Speaker 1: in itself isn't wrong, but something is way way wrong.
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Speaker 1: Talking about this beautiful woman and she is. I'm telling
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Speaker 1: you this one doesn't need it. I'm looking at her
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Speaker 1: right now. Any plastic surgery. She doesn't need a makeup
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Speaker 1: and hair artist. She is a natural beauty, long raven locks, beautiful,
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Speaker 1: they look like big blue eyes and of course a
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Speaker 1: perfect smile. And I'm looking at her. She's wearing double
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Speaker 1: diamond ear rings right there, Alexis right there. This is
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Speaker 1: not a theft. That's the first thing you would do
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Speaker 1: is snatched those ear rings out of her ears. They're huge,
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Speaker 1: they're tasteful, they're studs. But what gives tell me about
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Speaker 1: the shooting? Alexis? So she you just were talking about. However,
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Speaker 1: too is. She also was the captain of her cheerleading
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Speaker 1: spot in high school. She writs in sports she was
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Speaker 1: the most popular girl in school. Because this is a
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Speaker 1: good way Alexis. She looks like a Barbie doll. She
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Speaker 1: looks like the brunette Barbie doll she does. She's beautiful,
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Speaker 1: so she pulls into her She is a dentist. She's
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Speaker 1: a pediatric dentist, and she pulls into her. Dallas apartment
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Speaker 1: is a very, very high Alexis very Alexis. Everybody on
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Speaker 1: crime stories. It's like one big family sitting at the
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Speaker 1: table eating and everybody butts in on each other. Please,
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Speaker 1: everybody jump in when a thought comes to you, except
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Speaker 1: for you, sheer Ima call them no, seriously, do because
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Speaker 1: that is the way cases are developed, brainstorming, bouncing off
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Speaker 1: everybody else's idea. You know Alexis's. I can look at her,
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Speaker 1: but here's insight into her personality. You've got to have
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Speaker 1: a certain temperament to be a pediatric dentist, to deal
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Speaker 1: with little children that may buy you and keeping them
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Speaker 1: calm and happy daring a dental procedure. I mean, you've
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Speaker 1: got to have a lot of patience. And she had
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Speaker 1: a thriving practice, so she clearly had a good way
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Speaker 1: with children, even though I don't think she had any children.
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Speaker 1: Back to you, Alex, I was just saying, she seems
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Speaker 1: to be beautiful on the inside and the outside. Yep.
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Speaker 1: So she pulled into her Dallas parment, gated gated apartment,
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Speaker 1: you know where she could park. She pulls in another car.
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Speaker 1: Fancy ride, weren't they exclusive gated apartments. Was at a
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Speaker 1: high rise. I believe it was medium size, not one
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Speaker 1: level but not but not like a condo complex. It
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Speaker 1: was all spread out with walt ways and paths and
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Speaker 1: playgrounds and all that. Yeah, it's like one building with
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Speaker 1: the parking day. And see, I find that very significant
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Speaker 1: because to get in there you had to use a
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Speaker 1: key card, and whoever did this did not have a
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Speaker 1: key card or did not want to be traced through
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Speaker 1: their key card. They snuck in there. And here's the thing, though,
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Speaker 1: she gets out of her card. Just like a normal night.
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Speaker 1: You park and you're building, you feel secure because the
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Speaker 1: gate is locked. You know that there's security. She is
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Speaker 1: shot in the back of the head, no defense anything.
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Speaker 1: She wasn't running away. She didn't even see this person
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Speaker 1: come up and shoot her point blank in the back
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Speaker 1: of the head, executed in her parking lot. Mm hmmm.
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Speaker 1: Police on the hunt for a mystery gunman who shoots
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Speaker 1: a pediatric Dennis dead as she is. Did steal her purse? Nancy?
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Speaker 1: Oh he did? Did take the purse? Yeah? Well, yes,
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Speaker 1: the shooter did steal her purse. She had a coach purse,
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Speaker 1: fancy purse, and that was stolen from a scene. But
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Speaker 1: you're right, her earrings weren't stolen. None of the jewelry
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Speaker 1: she was wearing. She had just picked up a camera
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Speaker 1: from a friend and a cool underwater camera because she
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Speaker 1: was going on her trip. But her purse was stolen.
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Speaker 1: I'm curious or any of her credit cards or ATM
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Speaker 1: ever used. Yeah, okay, that goes to my theory right there.
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Speaker 1: My initial theory when I first heard the fact Sean
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Speaker 1: McCollum didn't use ATM, didn't use any of the credit cards,
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Speaker 1: No gas cards, No, nothing, nothing was used, So why
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Speaker 1: take the purse again? Nancy, you're dead on it. I
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Speaker 1: think you look at this woman and she's well, we
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Speaker 1: would consider a low level risk for being a victim
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Speaker 1: of gun violence. She's not a prostitute, she's not a
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Speaker 1: drug addict, she's not a thief. She's not a criminal
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Speaker 1: in any way. She doesn't hang out with criminals all
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Speaker 1: day long. Her profession. She hangs out with little children.
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Speaker 1: She's got a loving boyfriend, she's got a solid family foundation.
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Speaker 1: She goes to and from work, that's all she does.
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Speaker 1: So this person the fact that they took the purse
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Speaker 1: but then didn't use anything from it, and if they
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Speaker 1: were a stranger to her, they wouldn't even have known
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Speaker 1: she had a coach purse, so it couldn't be for
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Speaker 1: the purse. So you start looking at those three things,
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Speaker 1: and you and I used to go through these all
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Speaker 1: the time. You know, I'm looking to get another picture
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Speaker 1: Cheryl on her Facebook and shows her in a bikini.
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Speaker 1: Of course, she's got a great figure to boot and
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Speaker 1: she's apparently a yogi she's out doing on the beach
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Speaker 1: these complicated yoga positions, and to top it all, off,
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Speaker 1: she can actually hold the position long enough to get
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Speaker 1: a photo. I mean, this woman is the total package
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Speaker 1: for Pete say, oh, she's pretty flawless. But again, you
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Speaker 1: got to look at who who in the world want
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Speaker 1: to hurt this woman and who would benefit And that's
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Speaker 1: where law enforce. They've got to get up and go
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Speaker 1: to work. Now, the reason I'm saying, I think it
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Speaker 1: was a high rise. And to me this is significant
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Speaker 1: because you have to establish not only a timeline, but
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Speaker 1: you have to look at the area, the area where
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Speaker 1: this happened. And I see pictures of her posing with
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Speaker 1: a city escape behind her, and it looks like she's
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Speaker 1: on at least the eighth or ninth floor based on
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Speaker 1: the buildings I see behind her one two, three, four
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Speaker 1: or five, six, seven, eight, nine ten. So to me,
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Speaker 1: it's a high rise that has exclusive entrance and exits.
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Speaker 1: You can't just walk in prime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: They murder of a gorgeous young pediatric denist. I wish
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Speaker 1: you could see your picture right now with a big,
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Speaker 1: beautiful smile. The hunt is on for the killer. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at NBC, because investigators in
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Speaker 1: Dallas work to find the killer of thirty five year
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Speaker 1: old pediatric dentist Kendra Hatcher. Police and family, see, they
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Speaker 1: believe there is more to it than just a random robbery.
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Speaker 1: I don't believe this was a robbery. Robbers don't walk
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Speaker 1: up and shoot somebody first and then grab their stuff.
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Speaker 1: M Now, see that's a point right there, straight out
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Speaker 1: to you, James Shellnutt Metro major case detective and SWAT
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Speaker 1: officer twenty seven years now, lawyer, that's a good point.
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Speaker 1: They shoot her, then they take her pocketbook, Then they
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Speaker 1: never use the ATM or any of the credit cards.
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Speaker 1: Oh agree, one hundred percent, Nancy, You hit on an
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Speaker 1: imported point. Also, you know she's she's supposedly adorned. With
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Speaker 1: all this jury, they don't take the easy pickings either.
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Speaker 1: All this reeks of a setup. It reeks of being
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Speaker 1: a staged defense. Staged stage And why is it significant
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Speaker 1: that they grabbed the pocketbook the purse after they shoot her,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, I think again, it goes to they want
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Speaker 1: law enforcement to think it was a robbery. If law
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Speaker 1: enforcement thinks that, then they are going to believe that
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Speaker 1: almost anybody can be a suspect. If you start looking
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Speaker 1: at there's three things nancy, money, sex, and revenge. That's
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Speaker 1: why people get killed ninety percent of the time. If
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Speaker 1: she wasn't sexually salted, take that away. It wasn't a robbery.
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Speaker 1: You can take that away. Law enforcement is only left
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Speaker 1: with revenge. And again, who would want to hurt this
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Speaker 1: pediatric dentist? You know, I find so many of the
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Speaker 1: facts intrigue to doctor Tim Gallagher, a medical examiner for
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Speaker 1: the State of Florida, pathcaremed dot com lecturer, University Florida,
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Speaker 1: Forensic Medicine. Doctor Tim Gallagher. She shot point blank in
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Speaker 1: the back of the head. How do you tell that
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Speaker 1: a wound, a gunshot wound is point blank when you
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Speaker 1: look at the body, Well, there are certain clues that
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Speaker 1: the gun would leave behind to show you how close
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Speaker 1: the gun was to the body when it was discharged.
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Speaker 1: Not only does the bullet come out of the gun,
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Speaker 1: but also a gunpowder, soot, smoke, and a flame also
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Speaker 1: comes out of the muzzle of the gun. And if
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Speaker 1: that's close enough to the back of the head, all
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Speaker 1: of that material would be deposited on the back of
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Speaker 1: the head, in the hair, in the neck area. And
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Speaker 1: then we can determine by the pattern that this material
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Speaker 1: leaves how close or buzz to the body when it
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Speaker 1: was discharged. A stipling occurs when the unburnt gunpowder, which
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Speaker 1: is white hot, it's flaming white hot, comes out of
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Speaker 1: the gun and lands on the skin and it actually
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Speaker 1: burns into the skin. And if the gun was one
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Speaker 1: foot two ft three feet away from the body, that
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Speaker 1: a piece of gunpowder burning into the skin, or stipling
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Speaker 1: as you call it, would occur. If the gun is
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Speaker 1: further away, then the particle would cool down before it
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Speaker 1: reaches the body and simply bounce off and not leave
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Speaker 1: a stipling print. So if there's stipling there, it means
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Speaker 1: that the gun was very very close to the body,
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Speaker 1: and in this case, that is probably why they determined
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Speaker 1: it was a point blank or very close gunshot wound
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Speaker 1: to the back of the head, possibly execution style. And
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Speaker 1: that's why we call it contact contact wound, because the
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Speaker 1: barrel of the gun is making contact with the skin
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Speaker 1: and you have to be either a has to either
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Speaker 1: be a contact loan or just inches from the skin
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Speaker 1: for there to be stipling. In other words, the human
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Speaker 1: skin is actually burned by the heat of the gunpowder
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Speaker 1: coming out of the barrel of the gun, be it
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Speaker 1: a long gun or a revolver. That's what we mean
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Speaker 1: by point blank or contact wound. Point blank can be
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Speaker 1: contact or a foot away at point blank range. Contact
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Speaker 1: wound means you're making contact with the victim's skin. So right,
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Speaker 1: the muzzle of a gun, the muzzle of a gun
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Speaker 1: is pressed against the victen skin when it is a discharge,
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Speaker 1: that's contact gunshot wound. Now police immediately go on the offense.
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Speaker 1: They increase patrols in this ritzy area and remind everybody
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Speaker 1: to be vigilant about their surroundings, reporting anything suspicious to
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Speaker 1: nine one one. But back to you, Alexas Terrestia at
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Speaker 1: crime online dot com. This is an area where there's
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Speaker 1: not a lot to be vigilant about, this very low
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Speaker 1: crime rate. Only you know, you got to have a
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Speaker 1: lot of money to live in this upscale building. Correct, yes,
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Speaker 1: you do, you do. But because the building is so
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Speaker 1: high end, it has security cameras, and so there was
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Speaker 1: a security camera in the garage. It did not catch
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Speaker 1: the murder, but it did catch a getaway car. Guys,
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Speaker 1: when you see a case, it's not a Cheryl McCollum
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Speaker 1: correctly pointed out, it's not about a sex assault, it's
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Speaker 1: not about a robbery. What is it about? You always
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Speaker 1: start with those closest to the victim. You start in
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Speaker 1: their family, and typically you're not talking about their children.
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Speaker 1: You're talking about a husband, a boy friend, and x
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Speaker 1: a fiancee. So who is she involved with? Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to our friend, Rebecca Lomas WFAA TV. Doctor Hatcher
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Speaker 1: was a pediatric dennis who had fallen in love with
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Speaker 1: another doctor, dermatologist, doctor Ricardo Pinyagua. They dated for about
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Speaker 1: six months and things progressed quite rapidly with Kendra. We
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Speaker 1: started a wedding fund, started a wedding fund after just
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Speaker 1: six months. And now that we're talking about it, I'm
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Speaker 1: looking at this photo of her and this guy, doctor
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Speaker 1: Ricky Pinagua, has his arm around her. He also has
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Speaker 1: perfect teeth on my ad. They're outside, no, they're inside,
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Speaker 1: but they're obviously at her place. It's a high as
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Speaker 1: you see those same buildings behind them. They're inside, like
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Speaker 1: on a sofa, and she's wearing a sweatshirt that says
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Speaker 1: I'm with dreamy, doctor McDreamy. I'm talking about doctor Ricardo
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Speaker 1: Ricky Paniagua, and some people may call him handsome and
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Speaker 1: a kind of a dark good looking way, perfect teeth,
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Speaker 1: the chin, the look, and a lot of these. He's
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Speaker 1: in almost all of the pictures that we have of her.
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Speaker 1: There they are riding a tandem bicycle. There they are
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Speaker 1: on a day. I think that's them together at the beach.
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Speaker 1: They're kissing by a lake and taking goofy selfies together.
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Speaker 1: It looks like it's picture perfect, straight out to doctor
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Speaker 1: Jen Mann, couples therapy host, family therapy host VH one,
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Speaker 1: the Doctor Jin Show on series sexm and author of
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Speaker 1: the Relationship Fixed. It looks great on the outside, doesn't it.
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Speaker 1: But so often that's just not true, Doctor Jen absolutely a.
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Speaker 1: You know, you see these two people who are gorgeous,
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Speaker 1: They are well educated, they are successful, they appear to
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Speaker 1: have it all. But clearly something was awry that this crime,
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Speaker 1: as Cheryl pointed out, appears to be very personal, and
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Speaker 1: like you said, the first place we look is what
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Speaker 1: about the boyfriend? What about the husband? I gotta ask
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Speaker 1: you something, doctor jen Man, and I was asking it
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Speaker 1: to my husband just today. We're talking about seemingly the
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Speaker 1: perfect couple. You've got a pediatric dentist, gorgeous, stunning. You've
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Speaker 1: got her boyfriend. They started a wedding fund the doctor,
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Speaker 1: doctor Ricky Piniagua. So you've got the doctor, the dentist,
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Speaker 1: and the killer. I was talking to my husband just
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Speaker 1: this morning, doctor Jean about why can't people be happy?
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Speaker 1: You see millionaires with the beautiful home, the beautiful family,
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Speaker 1: the everything, and their quote, just not happy. What what's
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Speaker 1: there not to be happy about? Now? No offense to
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Speaker 1: Bill Gates. Okay, mull one of the richest people on
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Speaker 1: the planet, but he allegedly told people he had a
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Speaker 1: loveless marriage and they just quote, just wasn't happy. You
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Speaker 1: know what my advice, work on it. Suck it up,
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Speaker 1: little sister, get in there, go to doctor jen Man,
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Speaker 1: work on it's there not to be happy about. You know,
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Speaker 1: I see people pushing their grocery carts along full of
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Speaker 1: all their worldly belongings, and then you have people that
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Speaker 1: quote just aren't happy. I don't get it. How can
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Speaker 1: you be this perfect looking and not be happy? I
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Speaker 1: don't do you meet people like that, doctor jen Do
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Speaker 1: you just want to Well? No, I mean, look, I'm
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Speaker 1: a therapist. This is what I do. Okay, just compassion
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Speaker 1: and look. I also think that life is very complicated
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Speaker 1: and people have very coppelicate Do we make it complicated?
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Speaker 1: Sometimes we do, and sometimes our circumstances make it complicated.
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Speaker 1: I call it the myths of the perfect life. When
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Speaker 1: we see a couple like this, we look, we look
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Speaker 1: at them, and we say, they have it all. What's
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Speaker 1: not to be happy about it? You know? I remember
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Speaker 1: one time in my practice, I had a client in
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Speaker 1: my office who was pining about this celebrity. Oh, she
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Speaker 1: has the perfect life and everything is perfect in our
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Speaker 1: hair is perfect, in our body is perfect, and you know,
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Speaker 1: her relationship is perfectly and unbeknownst to her, that person
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Speaker 1: was a client of mine coming in three hours later
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Speaker 1: crying about her terrible boyfriend who had cheated on her,
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Speaker 1: about her depression, about her family, about her own self image.
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Speaker 1: So what it really speaks to is, no matter how
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Speaker 1: perfect things look on paper and Instagram, that a lot
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Speaker 1: of the time what goes on behind closed doors is
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Speaker 1: very different. And one thing that we know about this
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Speaker 1: guy from what he said is that six months in
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Speaker 1: they've started a wedding. Fun What that tells me is
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Speaker 1: this is a really intense person. This is someone who
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Speaker 1: loves hard, who leaves hard, who a lot of the
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Speaker 1: time people get very attached to someone like that, and
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Speaker 1: they get attached very quickly. And that's interesting information crime
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Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace, you know, Cheryl McCallum, you and
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Speaker 1: I was saying murder cases and every walk of life.
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Speaker 1: And I started off most of my first prosecutions were
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Speaker 1: not rich people that had it all. But it didn't
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Speaker 1: take long for me to work my way out of
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Speaker 1: inner city Atlanta and start prosecuting cases of all the
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Speaker 1: rich people up in North Atlanta and the gated communities
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Speaker 1: and the mansions and the rolling laws and true or
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Speaker 1: words were never spoken what doctor Jen just said. But
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Speaker 1: you know, as you know, I look around at my
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Speaker 1: life and it ain't perfect, but it's perfect for me.
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Speaker 1: And when I look at this scenario with this woman
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Speaker 1: and this guy, a doctor and a dentist and a
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Speaker 1: wedding fund, it's just shocking how everything can suddenly go wrong.
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Speaker 1: You know. I think having the ability to be grateful
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Speaker 1: is a gift I do, and I think that is
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Speaker 1: part of being happy, whether you're in a mansion or
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Speaker 1: in a shack by a swamp, if you're with people
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Speaker 1: that love you and that you love you are to
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Speaker 1: me in a gift in a world of you know love.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't ask for nothing else to me.
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Speaker 1: And you and I have certainly worked, you know, murders
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Speaker 1: than what people would consider the cut. And we've worked
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Speaker 1: murders on tux Seed to drive and they have a
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Speaker 1: lot in common. That's right by the Governor's house and
23:27
Speaker 1: apparently that is the street to live on if you're
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Speaker 1: in Atlanta. I guess I wouldn't know about living over
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Speaker 1: on tuck Seedo. But back to this case, guys. So
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Speaker 1: cops are on the search for a man that murders
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Speaker 1: this pediatric Dennis seemingly in cold blood, trying to figure
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Speaker 1: out who, what, where, when and why. Then police get
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Speaker 1: a break in the case. Take a listen to our
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Speaker 1: friend Carrie Sanders at NBC. Police got a break in
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Speaker 1: the case when the owner of this jeep seen on
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Speaker 1: security camera video when the garage where Hatcher was killed,
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Speaker 1: told police she loaned the card to a friend. That friend,
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Speaker 1: twenty three year old Crystal Cortez, a dental assistant, admitted
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Speaker 1: that's her driving away from the scene. Cortes is now
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Speaker 1: charged with capital murder. She told police she conspired with
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Speaker 1: an unnamed individual for five hundred dollars to drive an
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Speaker 1: unknown male suspect to rob Hatcher. The suspect's brother says
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Speaker 1: authorities came in the middle of the night and took
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Speaker 1: Cortes's son away. I really broke down into this because
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Speaker 1: me knowing my sisters, she's not capable of or something
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Speaker 1: like that. Oh man, you would just be surprisedn't you
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Speaker 1: what people are capable of. So let me understand unless
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Speaker 1: the's terrest shot Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. Police
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Speaker 1: get a break because the jeep is spotted on video.
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Speaker 1: Can't make out who the sheeter is. Don't know who
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Speaker 1: the sheeter is, but they can see this cheap r
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Speaker 1: key flying out of there like a bat out of hell.
25:04
Speaker 1: Now you know what's interesting, alexis tresh check and we
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Speaker 1: see this in other cases. Just for instance, Molly Tibbets
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Speaker 1: the Iowa co ed that goes jogging and there's ends
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Speaker 1: up dead, she goes missing. Can't solve it, can't solve it.
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Speaker 1: Then neighborhood video shows her jogging by, and then they
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Speaker 1: see a black Chevy Malibu going back, then reverse, then back,
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Speaker 1: then reverse and it has quote unusual markings on it.
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Speaker 1: Another case, the people's court Mom remember her. She drops
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Speaker 1: her children off to be taken care of while she works.
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Speaker 1: As she leaves, then her hummer is found and a
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Speaker 1: sea of cars across the street from a big mall,
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Speaker 1: but her business. Stickers that cover the back of a
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Speaker 1: hummer advertising her tanning business have all been carefully matched off.
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Speaker 1: Alterations on a vehicle make that vehicle one of a kind,
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Speaker 1: whether it's a scrape down the side, or stickers on
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Speaker 1: the back or stickers removed, it makes that vehicle the
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Speaker 1: only one like it. Very quickly, the owner of the
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Speaker 1: Chevy of the jeep comes forward, right he does. He
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Speaker 1: sees the car on the news and he comes. He
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Speaker 1: realizes that he this is his car. So he comes
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Speaker 1: to the police and he tells them. He says, I
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Speaker 1: a friend of mine, somebody that I know, borrows this
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Speaker 1: car the day of that Kendra was shot, and I'm
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Speaker 1: going to tell you who it is. And so he
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Speaker 1: goes to the police. They release it. He sees it
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Speaker 1: and he struggled with this. He talked to his family.
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Speaker 1: The owner of the car, he talked to his family.
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Speaker 1: He said I don't know what to do. I can't
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Speaker 1: imagine that the friend of mine that I know that
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Speaker 1: borrow the car had anything to do with this. This
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Speaker 1: seems so crazy to me. You know. Maybe I just
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Speaker 1: I don't want to get them in trouble. And his
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Speaker 1: family said, you have to do the right thing, and
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Speaker 1: so he did. He went to the police and he
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Speaker 1: told them that he had the car in the video.
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Speaker 1: So this woman, Crystal Cortez, no connection whatsoever to Kendra Hatcher,
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Speaker 1: the dead pediatric dentist, says she had the car. She
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Speaker 1: borrows the carboyf it had just been stolen after that,
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Speaker 1: but no, she returned the car, but she had the
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Speaker 1: car at the time of the shooting. She says she
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Speaker 1: conspired with an unnamed individual for five hundred dollars just
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Speaker 1: to drive a guy to where Hatcher was is all
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Speaker 1: she had to do. Take a listen to our friends,
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Speaker 1: Carrie Sanders at NBC. The person under arrest a twenty
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Speaker 1: two year old woman named Crystal Cortez. She's charged with
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Speaker 1: capital murder and is being held on two hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars bond. Already says she admitted involvement in
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Speaker 1: the crime claiming she was paid five hundred dollars and
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Speaker 1: drove a men to the scene who then shot and
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Speaker 1: killed Hatcher. But still, what's the motive? You know? To you,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, there's nothing like a little capital murder charge
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Speaker 1: to make you blurt out what happened. And here she's
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Speaker 1: saying she got paid five hundred dollars just to give
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Speaker 1: this guy a ride to where Hatcher was the murder victim. Listen,
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Speaker 1: five hundred dollars to give somebody a ride. You got
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Speaker 1: to know something is way wrong with that, right, you
28:34
Speaker 1: know it's way wrong. And Nancy, you and I have
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Speaker 1: known people that got murdered for a whole lot lift
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Speaker 1: and five hundred dollars. But there's no question she knew
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Speaker 1: what was seeking to go down. Oh yeah, she had
28:44
Speaker 1: to know what was going down. Guys, the police are
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Speaker 1: getting closer and closer to making some sense of the murder,
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Speaker 1: the brutal murder seemingly for hire, of this young pediatric Dennis.
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Speaker 1: Now take a listen to this. This is Dallas Police
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Speaker 1: Major Max Garon. Detectives have been working around the clock,
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Speaker 1: executing search warrants and interviewing individuals in connection with the offense.
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Speaker 1: Tonight we announced the arrest of Christopher Love, Blackmail day
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Speaker 1: of birth, three twenty three, nineteen eighty four. He is
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Speaker 1: the person we have identified as having shot doctor Hatcher.
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Speaker 1: He has been charged with capital murder and a federal
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Speaker 1: charge of unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon.
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Speaker 1: He is currently in the Dallas County Jail on two
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Speaker 1: point five million dollars bond. When mister Lowell, excuse me,
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Speaker 1: when mister Love was arrested, he was found in possession
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Speaker 1: of the weapon believed to have been used to kill
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Speaker 1: doctor Hatcher. Additionally, we have secured a warrant for the
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Speaker 1: arrest of Brenda Delgado Latin female, eighteen of nineteen eighty two,
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Speaker 1: also for the charge of capital murder for her involvement
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Speaker 1: in the offense. Prime Stories with Nancy Grace. Now we
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Speaker 1: find out the trigger man is a guy that also
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Speaker 1: has no connection whatsoever to the murder victim, and we
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Speaker 1: hear for the first time the name Brenda Delgado. Brenda Delgado,
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Speaker 1: listen to our friend Chris gata as NBC five. On Friday,
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Speaker 1: Dallas Police announced Love was their prime suspect in the
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Speaker 1: murder of Dallas dentist Kindra Hatcher. They believe he was
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Speaker 1: the trigger man in this elaborate murder for higher case.
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Speaker 1: Police believe Brenda Delgado hired Love to kill Hatcher. But
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Speaker 1: for the first time, we're hearing about another unnamed man
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Speaker 1: involved in the plot. The FBI affidavit says Delgado was
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Speaker 1: over her asking that man if he would find someone
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Speaker 1: to carry out the crime. That's when the FBI believes
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Speaker 1: Love got involved. Cortes told police Love hid in the
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Speaker 1: backseat of the jeep seen in these surveillance photos so
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Speaker 1: he wouldn't be seen on the cameras they waited for Hatcher,
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Speaker 1: and Cortes says Love got out of the car, fired
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Speaker 1: one shot, and came back to the jeep with two
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Speaker 1: purses in his hand. Okay, now you got the FBI involved.
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Speaker 1: That means one thing, murder for hire is suspected. But
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Speaker 1: I still don't have the answer. Who's Brenda Delgado? Take
31:35
Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at crime Online. Friends describe
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Speaker 1: dermatologist doctor Ricardo Ricky panti Aqua as quiet and thoughtful.
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Speaker 1: Patients say he has a wonderful bedside manner. Brenda Delgado, likewise,
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Speaker 1: has friends who speak of her in glowing terms. The
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Speaker 1: thirty one year old dental hygiene student was petite, pretty
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Speaker 1: and personable, always easy to talk to. So it's really
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Speaker 1: no wonder that when the who met through a dating app,
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Speaker 1: they hit it off. They were living together in Pontiagwa's
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Speaker 1: apartment just three months after their first date. Things stayed
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Speaker 1: that way for two and a half years. Pontiagua had
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Speaker 1: even given Delgado a promise ring, but that promise did
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Speaker 1: not ring true. Pontiagua tells his girlfriend that it's time
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Speaker 1: for him to move on a promise ring. You've got
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Speaker 1: a medical doctor, Rick Paniagua. He's living with a dental hygienist,
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Speaker 1: Brenda Delgado, and he gives her a promise ring after
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Speaker 1: two what was it two and a half years, doctor
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Speaker 1: gen Man, don't you give promise rings in like the
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Speaker 1: seventh grade? Well, I think a lot of the type
32:44
Speaker 1: people give promise rings when they feel like they're moving
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Speaker 1: in a certain direction, but they're not really ready to
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Speaker 1: cross that dentish line. And I think that it's made
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Speaker 1: a situation where he wanted to git a minute, wait
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Speaker 1: a minute, do we have this right? Alexas terrestrack. Was
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Speaker 1: it a promise ring? Just yes? No? Yes, okay, shell
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Speaker 1: Nut twenty seven years match a major k swat, now lawyer,
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Speaker 1: what if you got down on your knees and gave
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Speaker 1: your now wife, the mother of your five children, a
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Speaker 1: promise ring? Yeah? We like twelve years old. I agree
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Speaker 1: with you, every nut. That's what kids do. And so
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Speaker 1: I will tell you this. That would have been the
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Speaker 1: last ring that my wife would have ever received from me,
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Speaker 1: because she did never talk to me again after that.
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Speaker 1: Shery McColl a promise ring? Why didn't he have to
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Speaker 1: ask her to move out? You give me a promise
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Speaker 1: ring after I've shacked up with you nearly three years?
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Speaker 1: I know, well, I'm gonna play devil's advocate. Oh lord,
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Speaker 1: she's crazy. And he gave her the promise ring because
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Speaker 1: he couldn't give her an engagement ring because he didn't
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Speaker 1: want to be tied to her in that way. But
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Speaker 1: he had to string her a long long enough to
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Speaker 1: figure out how the hell to get out of this relationship.
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Speaker 1: That's what I think appen. So after he unceremoniously tells
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Speaker 1: her to pack up and leave, he sends her an
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Speaker 1: email telling her he's in a new relationship and very happy. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's just pouring gas on the fire. Delgado is not happy.
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Speaker 1: She begins stalking Paniagua, reading his text and emails, has
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Speaker 1: his iCloud passwords, set up an app that allows her
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Speaker 1: to track the location of his cell phone. She had
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Speaker 1: a key to his apartment. She began tailing him all
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Speaker 1: around Dallas with the plan of getting her boyfriend back.
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Speaker 1: Listen to this. Hatcher and Paniagua make plans to fly
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Speaker 1: to Cancoon for a long weekend, but someone walks up
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Speaker 1: to Hatcher in a parking garage and fires a bullet
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Speaker 1: into the back of her head. That night, Paniagua texts
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Speaker 1: Delgado letting her know what happened. The next morning, Delgado
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Speaker 1: texts him back, offering to bring over groceries or anything
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Speaker 1: else he needs. Yeah, I can imagine what she wanted
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Speaker 1: to bring over. The next morning, so the boyfriend, doctor
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Speaker 1: Paniagua causes X Brendan Delgado and says, my fiance has
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Speaker 1: been murdered, and she offers to come comfort him the
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Speaker 1: following morning. Okay, Cheryl McCollum, how is it that you
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Speaker 1: could track through an app anybody's cell phone. Appears that
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Speaker 1: Delgado shared a plan with her former boyfriend, so when
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Speaker 1: they broke up, she stayed on his cell phone plan
35:33
Speaker 1: and she was able to use to Find Me app
35:36
Speaker 1: because they were connected phone to phone. So she started
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Speaker 1: by tracking his movements, found out where the victim lived,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Hatcher, and then started following her. It would appear
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Speaker 1: what kind of a sick thrill do you get out
35:50
Speaker 1: of that following your ex's new girlfriend, doctor Jim. Well,
35:53
Speaker 1: what that tells us is that this is someone who
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Speaker 1: was extremely obsessive, who is really crossed that line from
36:03
Speaker 1: you know, we've all been obsessive about an X or
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Speaker 1: spake for yourselves. I don't think we've all been obsessive,
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Speaker 1: But this across the line where she's now become a stalker,
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Speaker 1: and that tells us that this is someone who is
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Speaker 1: deeply pathological, which kind of brings us back, by the way,
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Speaker 1: to that promise ring. I think on some level in
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Speaker 1: his gut, he was not giving her an engagement ring
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Speaker 1: because he knew something was wrong with this woman. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know what, maybe even Sharon McCollum are right. Take
36:34
Speaker 1: listen to our cut nine. This is David Goins at
36:37
Speaker 1: WFAA TV. Prosecutors say Brenda Delgado was upset her ex
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Speaker 1: boyfriend had moved on, so she plotted to kill his
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Speaker 1: new girlfriend. Surveillance video from September twenty fifteen showed Christopher
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Speaker 1: Love walking in the parking garage of Hatcher's Uptown high rise.
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Speaker 1: Seconds later, the pediatric dentist was shot in the head.
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Speaker 1: A Dallas County jury gave Love, the hired hit man,
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Speaker 1: the death penalty, in large part because of testimony from
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Speaker 1: the getaway driver, Crystal Cortes, who told yours last fault,
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Speaker 1: Brenda Delgado hired her Polly two weeks after I met Brenda,
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Speaker 1: we started planning this murder. Instead of the death penalty,
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Speaker 1: Cortes got thirty five years for her testimony against Love.
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Speaker 1: She will testify against Delgado this week. Prosecutors will show
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Speaker 1: surveillance video of Delgado and Cortes meeting shortly after the
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Speaker 1: murder and this photo the five hundred dollars Cortes says
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Speaker 1: Delgado paid her to plan Hatcher's murder. The scorned lover,
37:38
Speaker 1: the dumped girlfriend who masterminded the assassination of her ex
37:43
Speaker 1: the doctor's new dentist lover, Kendra Hatcher, goes to trial.
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Speaker 1: So what happens at trial with Delgado alloxis terrest Chuck.
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Speaker 1: I want to point out one tame before we talk
37:53
Speaker 1: about the trial. One of the things that Brenda has
37:56
Speaker 1: said about their relationship when she was with Ricky is
37:59
Speaker 1: they were so she actually got pregnant and Ricky asked her,
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Speaker 1: He said, I want to have kids with you eventually,
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Speaker 1: but I want you to have an abortion now, and
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Speaker 1: she did that. I'm not a doctor, I'm not a shrink,
38:11
Speaker 1: but I think that was something that Wade beery heavily
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Speaker 1: on her when she saw that he had moved on
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Speaker 1: with someone else when he had promised her theyked up
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Speaker 1: his together. She was pregnant, she was gonna have a child,
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Speaker 1: and then he's like, I don't want you at all
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Speaker 1: and tossed her away. And this also could have been
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Speaker 1: a big trigger for her. What happened in Child Likes
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Speaker 1: to ast Jack. The defense didn't She never took the stand,
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Speaker 1: She didn't stand anything in her own She in fact
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Speaker 1: sat in the court and didn't look at a single witness. Ever,
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Speaker 1: she was very stoic, looked straight ahead, except when Ricky
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Speaker 1: took the stand. Her ex boyfriend the one that she loved.
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Speaker 1: He took the standing. He looked at her one time,
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Speaker 1: and one time only. The prosecutor asked him to identify.
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Speaker 1: Do you recognize the woman in the court who is
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Speaker 1: accused of this criming thing? Yes, and he looked at Brinda.
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Speaker 1: She stared at him the entire time, staring, staring. Prosecution,
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Speaker 1: Rest defends rest. The jury spends all of twenty minutes
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Speaker 1: before they came back with a guilty verdict. And what
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Speaker 1: was her sentence? She did not get the death penalty,
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Speaker 1: She got life in prison. Brenda Delgado Life behind Bars,
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crimes story. Signing off Goodbye friend,