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Indiana 38, Western Kentucky 0: Reaction with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell (The IU Report, 3.45) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: You are listening to a special edition of the IU report with Grant Shows and My Cutsle.
• 0:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Their reaction to IU's 38 to nothing win over Western Kentucky.
• 0:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And coming out in the next couple days, their reaction to IU's Big 10 Basketball Skid.
• 0:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: My customers, they're any reason to overreact to this game given the Indiana plate of not very well to say the least in the first quarter and a half they dominate the last two and a half quarters.
• 0:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is there any reason to overreact the yesterday?
• 0:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it was the least inspired first half I think you couldn't say of the Kurtzignetti era.
• 0:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, am I going to overreact, I'm not going to overreact to it because I'm still grasping the fact that there's people who think that Indiana played bad in a game they won 38 to nothing.
• 1:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: The softmores and juniors that I have no idea how a good life is right now.
• 1:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: a conference USA team that has been a thorn in Indiana side, even though they haven't beaten them, hey man, I'm not thrilled with the win.
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think on the overall picture where we went to see for this 2020-2016, there's definitely things that...
• 1:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: we were concerned about coming into the season that haven't that played out in this game and you were hoping by the end of the third game of the non-conference season you would see improvements in those areas and they're still showing up but at the end of the day they have pitch shutouts and two straight games they're three in a and they're getting ready to start
• 2:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: big tin play with as a top 10 team, which I don't even think last year.
• 2:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, I know they weren't last year when they started a big tin play, they weren't a top 10 team yet at that point.
• 2:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there's concerning things that we'll talk about on the show today, but I'm not going to just throw my hands up and say, oh my god, we suck again.
• 2:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: It did not meet the eye tests at first.
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, it did.
• 2:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: It looked sluggish.
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was uninspiring.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's say, well, you've got nine straight quarters now without allowing a point.
• 2:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: They have not given up a point since the third quarter of the North Texas game 15 days ago.
• 2:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you've gone over two weeks without giving up a point.
• 2:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: They pitched the shed out yesterday.
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: They got huge stops on fork down.
• 3:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, really when you sit back and dissect it,
• 3:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: And again, Western Kentucky still didn't score on it.
• 3:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: They let him drive all the way down the field.
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: They got it to fourth and goal.
• 3:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: They went forward on fourth and goal in Indiana.
• 3:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Got to stop.
• 3:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, if you're going to overreact to this as an Indiana fan, you are kind of stupid, I think, Indiana outgained in 513 to 186 total yards of offense.
• 3:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they put up over 500 yards of offense.
• 3:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you got 24 first downs, Western Kentucky at 10.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: You held them to 66 rushing yards on the game.
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Pass for 280.
• 3:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, I do want to talk about Josh Hoover.
• 3:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we'll talk about him.
• 3:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you were to start bench and cut his first three performances of the season yesterday, it was probably the one you cut.
• 4:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: and even silly through for over 250 yards and two touchdowns and stills and turn the ball over.
• 4:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: The reason his mistakes were amplified yesterday because it's felt like every mistake that
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: He made, was a play that would have been a huge play on the first drive.
• 4:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: He kind of air mail is a ball to Charlie Becker that would have kept the drive alive.
• 4:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: They end up trying for a long field goal and missing it.
• 4:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: He has a long pass to Marsh that would have probably been a 50 yard plus touchdown that he just misses.
• 4:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he only missed four passes, but as Signetti said in the post game show, three of those could have been touchdowns.
• 4:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or yeah.
• 4:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he had to play it near the goal line where if he throws it further outside, Marsh catches it, he goes kind of more inside and it gets battered away or, you know, the contested catch with the receiver.
• 4:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he, he only made a few mistakes.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: None of them led to turnovers except for the one you could argue led to a turnover because they missed the field goal.
• 5:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: But they also could have been just absolute huge plays.
• 5:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And again, if he hits on them, we're talking about a 50 something to zero win as opposed to a 38 to nothing win.
• 5:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I and also one of the things here, and you probably noticed this on TV, is in the, especially the first quarter, Western Kentucky had the ball for 10 minutes of that first quarter.
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, they controlled the time of possession.
• 5:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: It seemed like they had the ball longer.
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: because that laundry drive they stalled out was really methodical and they kind of carved up Indiana, but again, other than that defensively Indiana played pretty well and still didn't play well on that one drive and still didn't give up point.
• 5:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And this question Kentucky team went down the Georgia last week and put up 20.
• 5:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now I know Georgia put up 70.
• 5:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say that Georgia gave up 70.
• 6:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but still they give up 20 points in the end and I didn't give up any of this Western Kentucky team and you look at it like that.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't look so bad.
• 6:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's no reason to be disappointed.
• 6:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I mean, you can be because they did not play to the standard.
• 6:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: There is a, uh, probably some complacency going on.
• 6:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious your thoughts.
• 6:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: They put Charlie Becker back to receive a couple punts.
• 6:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the entire day he received punts.
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: what you think and doesn't make sense to do that.
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I personally could do without ever seeing my best wide receiver return put return puns that is at all levels.
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just the risk in the reward is not close enough for me.
• 6:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if he pops one all season, that's great.
• 6:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: especially in a game you won 38 to nothing, but if he takes a hit or twist a knee or something on a plunt return, man, I hate that.
• 7:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand why you moved from the guy that was there Morris.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: He had some problems in the Howard game.
• 7:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Becker look he's a weapon you want to get the ball in his hands and try to get him in space as much as you can, but I would still feel much I would just feel so much better if they did that on offense.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't like my my guys.
• 7:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I remember going back a few years ago.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: and he was on the kickoff coverage team.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just exposing these guys to special teams.
• 7:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I mean, Ponds made the huge punt block last year.
• 7:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I understand you want your best players position to make plays, but man, if I just, I'm a risk reward analyzer, almost for my day job, and I think sometimes that seeps into my sports fandom.
• 8:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I see what you're saying.
• 8:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: a permanent move by the staff.
• 8:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they're going to end up having Tyler Moore's bag.
• 8:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Actually, I know for a fact, they will encourage techniques said that he'll be back there.
• 8:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Got to do it.
• 8:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got to do, but yeah, it's a it's a high risk kind of little reward unless he returns on, but I don't know.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought backer plate pretty well yesterday for them, honestly.
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, yeah, I mean, he made another huge highlight real play.
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: He only got the one touchdown this week.
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's got to get back on pace, but the touchdown that he had, he dusted the guy at the line of scrimmage.
• 8:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just absolutely left him.
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: and like he was in cement, and then when he caught the ball, they were even because he had to kind of pause to catch it, but then he just, I mean, in a foot race, not a lot of guys are going to come up from behind and get to Charlie Becker and he showed you why on that play for the long touchdown yesterday.
• 9:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and the ball was actually under throw and he had
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: They haven't really air it lists literally right for the play because they haven't aired it out at all yet today.
• 9:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: He goes, he goes, I'm wondering, maybe you don't want to put anything on tape.
• 9:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to show anything in North Western because next week maybe the deep balls there.
• 9:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe there's a, there's a, there's a philosophy behind it.
• 9:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a science behind it.
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And as soon as he says that he just airs one out, saying me catch it for a touchdown.
• 9:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was pretty fired up.
• 9:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: You could probably hear me on TV.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was so happy that that that that that that that felt like again you you look at the big plays you look at the Isaiah Jones Interception returned down to the two that set them up to go up 14 nothing and then you have the Charlie Becker touchdowns kind of that set after the games the shot in the arm that they needed and so I'm glad that I'm glad Indiana is able to make the plays I thought they responded really well when they
• 10:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, when the game was tight early on, I thought they made nice plays.
• 10:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: It just, it didn't look good to start.
• 10:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: My question to you is, and I'll answer this too when you're done.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: But how much of this game do you maybe compare to like the old demanding game last year?
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's there's elements to it.
• 10:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you still are missing your number two corner in the past game.
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: AJ Harris didn't play yesterday.
• 10:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: They got sharp back.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought sharp played very well.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: in the secondary out there.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: You started to see some of the more recognizable names or the gas starting to make some of these plays on defense.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: But
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're probably right, and I looked at the old demanding game last year, and we were all frustrated leaving it, and it's kind of the same feeling with this one, which I didn't really think about until you just said that, but there are some comparisons there, Western, Western, Western, Western, Western,
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: to their credit and almost their demise as scheduled just ridiculous this year.
• 11:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there are no in three team, but there are no in three team with losses to Georgia and Indiana.
• 11:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like you just said, I think they'll end up being a better team once they get into conference play.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, maybe a ball team again, Tyson Helton has
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: done that quite a bit since he's been at Western, and then they can still get to six, but they're not as good of a team as old Dominion was last year, but it did seem very bland in the the offensive script, like you, not a lot of deep balls, like he said, they got great play from Charlie Decker, they got a really nice play from
• 12:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Davy on Chandler.
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess you just set up in the end zone one week because he's gonna get there.
• 12:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: It seems like somehow some way Yeah, he's made five catches all year for of him who've been touchdowns See, every time you see his name you're like, well, it's this is six Yeah, I mean, you're that's a good comparison The fan base is a little down on it.
• 12:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: they're not going to move in any poll.
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: If they move anywhere in any poll, they may move down in some polls.
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just because they haven't played anybody or inspiring and they haven't had the most inspiring efforts in some of these games.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, it all set up to a sign normally does.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: He said to that for conference play, which we just already talked about.
• 12:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: It starts Friday.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, the real season I feel like is starting to get underway now.
• 13:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would compare a lot of yesterday to the old Dominion game, like you said, you kind of leave a little frustrated.
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't leave frustrated.
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I felt pretty good about it.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was frustrated at the game and during it, but leaving, you felt good.
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: You felt like they're probably not going to give up a score here.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't cover the spread, and honestly, I didn't expect it to.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: If I was betting yesterday, I probably would have taken the points.
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, one of the guys I tailgate with his, his, his whole stick is went and out, take the over on everything.
• 13:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he loves taking the over and I was like, there's no way you're taking.
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's no way you take the over in this game.
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they've not covered the thread doesn't shock me.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: The spread for Indiana, next week's 23 and a half, which seems about right in my opinion.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think Northwestard's a team eight and five last year.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: They put up 41 on Colorado last night.
• 14:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know Colorado's not a very good team and just they are maybe one of the most hated teams in America.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Northwestern's quarterback eight in child's again, Indiana's played them a couple times.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: When he is at Michigan State, he ran off a long run for a touchdown last year against Indiana when Michigan State came to town.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: They played him a couple years ago up in East Lansing.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: he's a guy obviously different from Hoover.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I honestly can't think of another core back in college football to compare him to off the top of my head.
• 14:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: But he's a guy that can make plays.
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: He can make it happen throwing.
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: He can make it happen with his legs.
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Indiana's got to be ready.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is this is I think a really good game to start conference play.
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: You look at North Western and you're going
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, it's North Leicester and they've not been very good, but it's a great way to ease in the conference play here because it it is still a solid opponent again, they went eight games last year went to bowl game.
• 15:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they're I think they can be a good team this year.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they probably will be a good team this year, but.
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious to where Indiana is going to be able to start conference play and how they're going to get done.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Northwest, they've kind of been a little bit of a surprise early this season, but just how good their offense has been.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've went over 30 in their opener.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: They put 41 up yesterday on Colorado Chip Kelly.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: They brought him in to be the offensive coordinator.
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was the offensive coordinator at Ohio State when Indiana went to Columbus and signities first season.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: So pretty
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: As effective as any quarterback really has been against Indiana over the last two years, he had those two big drives in the opening of the game at Michigan State a couple years ago, hit Nick Marsh for a touchdown on the opening drive.
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: In that game, then last year, they really did a great job of keeping Indiana's offense off the field.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I felt like in the game in Bloomington,
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: uses legs to keep drives alive.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Reminds me a little bit of Trinidad Chamblus.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely now is good a passer.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Trinidad Chamblus, but Chamblus is good at keeping plays alive with his legs when necessary.
• 16:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's a good opponent for the opening around.
• 16:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think 23 and a half, honestly, seems very optimistic for a spread in that one.
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm leaning initially towards,
• 16:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Northwestern, but signal he's a little scary when it feels like he's been hiding something we saw what he did to Illinois last year so he's getting a Friday night prime time national TV game on Fox to unveil this so we'll we'll see but it's definitely an interesting opener to pick 10 play in my case live we'll be watching this game
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: from one of the most infamous places that we've talked about on this podcast, can you take a guess guess guess city not yes, no great guests.
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I will be watching this.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're Greg Mingle won the 400 meter dash hissing your year at 200 meter dash.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was the 200
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't even happen, so it doesn't matter.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: The video of it is sitting right next to the clock at Michigan Stadium, that nobody else gets to see.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Gregor, you get a letting talk to you like that.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: The 200 meter CIC champion.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the 200 meter CIC champion doesn't need to prove anything.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a big party going on, there's a room.
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: The clock never turns to zero, because it's the Michigan clock.
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mitch McConnell is watching Greg Men Gueld's 200 meter.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sexual champion to for conference champion to see I see conference.
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And produce national championship in basketball.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I came 32.
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: The video of it is all right there in the same room.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I will be watching this game in the shadows of the two-edered meter C.I.C.
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Champion.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're Greg Mingo, got it done.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we're third player, the 993 or 1991.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: 1990.
• 18:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: 1990.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Indiana, how they have that reenactment of the Mendoza run.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can do.
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: They actually at L-tipped and wood or wherever Greg went to high school.
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... that you can reenact his two hundred meter that you can go to the track and reenact rig two hundred meter dash championship plan on doing triday i can't wait we want video but there will be video awesome really did it fantastic sushi champions don't need to prove themselves right
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much to Mike and Grant.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for listening.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mike and Grant will be back probably on Monday with their reaction to the IU Conference Basketball Skidesville for 2020-2627.
• 19:41
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• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: It should really be at least two points.
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