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CFB National Championship Preview | CFP Semifinal Recap and National Championship Picks Against the Spread · The Extra Point

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What's up y'all? You're listening to the Extra
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Point College Football podcast. I'm your host Jacob Carnage,
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joined as always by my Co host Daniel Hammock.
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Daniel, we've had 12 or 12 weeks, 14 weeks of regular
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season games. It's been a month and 1/2 in
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this playoff and bowl season. We've got one game left for the
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national championship. It's Indiana, it's Miami.
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We're going to break down both of their semi final wins as well
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as preview and make a pick against the spread and for the
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game for the National championship on January 19th.
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Next time you will see us after this episode will be after the
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national championship. We'll do a natty recap and
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little post mortem on the 2025 season.
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I've got some things I'm sure you need to.
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I've got some thoughts I want to get off my chest on the state of
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college football. We've got a full offseason for
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it so but we still have one more game left.
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Is it just me or does it feel like I like I felt the same for
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the semies 2 Daniel that I'm like, man, there's a semi final
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game tonight. It just I can't believe football
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still going on. It feels like it's dragging its
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feet. Yeah, it's it's weird because
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the you know, when there's not, and this is not an indictment on
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the teams that were there. Of course, we talked about how
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this is kind of new kids on the block a little bit, but you're
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lacking some of those bigger brands that bring eyeballs,
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whether it be, I mean, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Georgia,
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Alabama, whoever, whoever. It just lacked a little bit of
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that big game punch, I feel like.
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And when you've got that coupled with a very busy NFL cycle, very
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big head coaches moving in the NFL and, you know, obviously the
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NFL playoffs, anytime college football going up gets NFL
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playoffs. I know we'll talk about this
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more in the offseason, but that kind of, you know, they weren't
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timed out, you know, at the same time, but because they're, you
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know, on a different day of the week, NFL kind of takes over
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Saturdays in January. It kind of becomes, you know,
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one of those things where if your team isn't playing, it does
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not feel like, oh, I need to stop what I'm doing.
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And you make sure I have my game day snacks and I have all this
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stuff set aside like you normally would.
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It was kind of a, you know, I don't want to say underwhelming.
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That's, I don't think that's the right term, but it definitely
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did not feel as big of a production as you would hope it
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to be. Well, and I mean TV viewership
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numbers just came out like a couple days ago.
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Did you see these by chance? Actually this came out today.
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The Thursday night game, the Fiesta Bowl was down 11% from
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the Thursday night semi last year and the Friday night game
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was down 13% from the Friday semi final game last year.
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Look bottom line is big brands being out definitely affected
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this. Like last year that Friday game
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was Ohio State in Texas. Like it or not, more people are
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going to watch that game. I don't think TV viewership
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ratings and numbers should determine what we do because,
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yeah, the wrong way to look at this is we need more big brands
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in. Let's expand to 24 for the love
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of God, we've only had this thing.
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Please don't hear God. Can we stop?
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But I, I do think it's just interesting that again, I, I
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think that, you know, college football's growth and explosion
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in popularity is not guaranteed. And so this is this is the
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NASCAR thing, man, is don't don't count on the on the your
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diehards always showing up. You got to make sure you take
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care of your diehards and not just try to attack, attract
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casuals and count on your diehards to always be there.
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Bill Conley read about this in his latest book for Progress.
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And I thought it was he made some really good points about
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it. Ryan McGee was quoted in it
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because I didn't realize this. He was working for NASCAR at the
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time and he even heard like in meetings them say like, don't
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worry about the die hards, They'll always be there.
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And when as they're making these changes, like that was set out
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the, you know, the quiet part was set out loud.
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Yeah, And NASCAR lost their audience.
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All that being said, look, this is a football podcast.
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I think it's the greatest sport in the world.
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Still still think it's the greatest sport in the world.
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Just interesting the semi final numbers.
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And I'm like even me as a die hard, I thought it was
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interesting that I'm like, man, I feel like the the hype to the
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national championship is not, you know, like, dude, heading
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into conference championship weekend, it's like all the
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momentum, yeah, football back-to-back to back,
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back-to-back. I want it to feel that way
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hitting into the natty and not just.
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Yeah. That's a really, you know what I
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mean, way to think about it. Yeah.
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That's why that's why I like the and we can we can do a whole
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episode on this, but I like the I guess we're calling it the
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landing model of just keep going week to week, like regular
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season ends, commerce championship weekend ends.
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If we still have that that next Saturday playoff games, the next
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Saturday playoff games and what's in January 1st and we can
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end the season before the portal window opens.
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Look at that. That'd be that.
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'D be great. Solves all your problems right
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there. It solves one of the problems
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anyway, Daniel, we had some semifinal games.
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I'll start with the first one. Miami outlasts Ole Miss.
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The Cinderella story comes to an end with Ole Miss Postling
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Kiffin. Miami was favored by three there
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at the end. They win by 4.
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You took Ole Miss, didn't you? You take Ole Miss I.
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Took Ole Miss and a prayer. Just thinking, hey, Miami's
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probably better team, but Chambliss, the way he was
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playing and there was moments, man, this one went back and
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forth. And then of course, just the
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Miami being able to sustain drives at the end, being able to
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run the ball. I really think, I mean, hot
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take, you know, Carson Beck ran the last touchdown in.
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But Carson Beck and his legs have been a difference the past
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two games for Miami where he converted like a third and
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11:00. There's a third and 19, I think
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where he scrambled and made it a fourth and two, you know, stuff
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like that where it's like hidden yards.
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Where before he may have been reluctant, now with the game and
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the season on the line, he's really kind of stepped up in
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that area. You know, you and I, of course,
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Georgia fans, Carson Beck, was that Georgia?
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But I actually remember the lore of like his high school, but
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when he was a junior was when he exploded as a football player.
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He was really more of a a baseball player, of course,
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getting recruited as such. You know, he's in a
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classification for Florida and he was player of the year his
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junior year, which is what made him get recruited as a
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quarterback to all the SEC schools.
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And he had a cast of just so many D1 guys are around him at
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Mandarin High School. Well, his senior year, he
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actually lost like 90% of their production.
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And I don't know if you remember, but that was he
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actually started to focus on scrambling and doing that kind
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of stuff. And I remember when he was
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coming into Georgia thinking, Oh, he's a dual threat.
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Like because he did all that, then he didn't really do that at
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Georgia. He did it in, in certain spots,
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He felt he picked his spots, but it really felt like in this
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game, that's what would the difference was he was getting
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first downs and then ultimately that, that touchdown that that
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sealed it, that put Miami ahead and, and really gave them the
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nudge that they needed, you know, cuz their run game with
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Fletcher is phenomenal. So having that component from a
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quarterback, I think really puts defenses, you know, in a bad
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place. Yeah, he obviously was clutching
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the last drive. Dude, Chambliss looked cold for
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a little bit and then I mean, it felt like it even in the third
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quarter. I mean, it kind of with the way
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of the Georgia Olmus game of man, it feels like Miami should
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be up 14 right now and they're just letting Ole Miss stay in
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the game where I'm like, like Miami felt like they were
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dominating. And it's like they're just like,
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don't let them come back into it.
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They let Ole Miss come back into it and they let him keep
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fighting. They let Chambliss get hot.
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I was laughing at it's like, why should Georgia have run the ball
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there or let the clock roll on that last drive?
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It's because Chambliss only needed 18 seconds and he still
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had a throw into the end zone from only the 35.
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Like it wasn't like it was this from his own 40 having to heave
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it. I mean, that was a second normal
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touchdown pass, you know, or what, what could have been.
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Attempts, yeah. I mean, I was telling someone
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they were like, I went to bed, like what happened?
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And I'm like, I think I want to get it right because I was like
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the game was where was it with let's see here It was 17 to 16
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with what 10 minutes to go and it ended 3120.
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So it was just like the I mean, the the fourth quarter field
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goal, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.
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And then, you know, failed him at Hail Mary attempt.
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End of the game was just electric.
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My name is playing for a national championship.
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I Ding of this. I just, I need to get this off
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my chest and we have a podcast so I can I'm allowed to say it.
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Say it. I'm not OK, I'm going to.
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We're going to talk about Indiana, Oregon.
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I'm rooting for Indiana. All right, I'm not going to tell
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you I'm picking yet, but here's why.
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Football for so long has rewarded the best team and with
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with the playoff structure or championship structure or
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whatever. Most of the time, the best team
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through the regular season in college football was crowned the
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national champion eventually, whether it be they play in a big
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bowl game and the voters vote on it.
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And sure, you had some years where that didn't work and you
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had split national championships, sure.
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But if it was the BCS, you know, through 1213 games, you got the
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best two teams and one game to prove which one of you is
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better. And I mean, I would say over 90%
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of the time the team that was the best or 12 games won the
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national championship last year. I did.
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I did not think that happened. And if Miami were to win the
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title game on the night, which we're more than capable of, I do
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think the spreads of when I first saw it, I thought it was a
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little high. I just, I, I don't like that
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we're giving, you know, a lot's been written about and said
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about Miami and this amazing run.
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And I think people are acting like Miami's the little guy.
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My gosh. When Miami started the season
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Labor Day weekend, they had a top 6 roster in the sport,
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bottom line. So they had 12 games to prove
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that they can. That doesn't mean everything,
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but they can turn that top 6 roster on paper into a
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championship contender. They lost two of those games and
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in a previous era they would not have been rewarded with the
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chance to compete for a championship.
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I've never doubted Miami could compete for a championship.
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I doubted they could actually earn it through 12 games and
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play their way in. And I know this, I know we get
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expansion now, but I don't like that Miami, who is unarguably
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not one of the best teams in the country through 12 games, is 1
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game away from saying basically we we were the best team in 2025
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and that wasn't the case. Indiana, on the other hand, has
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absolutely been the best team all season.
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So I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for college
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football. Best team to win the national
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championship on Monday night. That's my rooting interest.
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Is that fair? My being too harsh?
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My being too critical. No, I mean, that's like the
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ultimate indictment on the sport.
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Like what everybody wanted, or at least the stated goal, was
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Indiana, and the unintended consequence is Miami.
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It's fair. Well said, Daniel.
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Well said. OK, Indiana.
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I mean, I had the feeling someone said this on Twitter.
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I don't know who it was. I wish I could give them credit
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when Oregon, you know, pick six in the first play and you're
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like, oh, wow. And they start to show these
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crowd shots and it's like, wow, like that place is berserk.
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It might be 95% Indiana fans. Unbelievable.
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Like scenes Dante Moore drives down with an immediate answer
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for a touchdown and I'm like, here we go.
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What an answer. 2 quarterbacks playing their best game.
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And someone said after the fact they were like, this was like
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when TCU scored the touchdown to go down 10, seven against
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Georgia and the natty and everyone was like, here we go.
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We got a game. We got a game.
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We. Got out of it yet and we know
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how that went and we know how this game went.
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I mean, I, I said it, I was like here we go 7 all you know, let's
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see Indiana's response. Well, Indy Indiana's response
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was 35 seven at halftime. And it's like, oh man.
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And they didn't need to do anything in the second-half, but
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the final score was I mean, believe it or not, 56 to 22.
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It was way worse than that and. Yeah, yeah.
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Indiana, it looks like Daniel that they and look, I know
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there's been cheating stuff. We shared it.
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Whatever. I don't think that I mean this
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as a compliment. It looks like they know what
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play you're in on defense. It looks like they know exactly
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what you're in and what you're going to run.
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And it seems like you're dropping 8 when it's a pass play
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and it seems like they're sending 6 when it's a run play
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in the right gaps. They're jumping flat routes
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like, and I just compliment the scouting because they are so
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prepared, so prepared and they blow Oregon out.
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I mean, it was, I couldn't believe what I was watching.
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And I, I bet there's people who turned it off and the viewership
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number say so because of how big of a blowout it was.
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And again, they they continue to prove me wrong and they've
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proven through they've played 15 games that they've been the best
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team through 15 games in college football this year.
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Yeah, I mean, OK, here's story time for me.
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OK? You and I both, you know, we're
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family men, all right? We've got beautiful wives.
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We've got children, apparently. We're fathers of young children.
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Yes, football is very important to us, all right?
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Also, there are some things that sometimes supersede in the
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moment, especially if it's not your team technically playing.
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YouTube TV is phenomenal where you can hit catch up to live
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plays through key plays and it gives you some great snippets.
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So shout out YouTube TV. Please don't take ESPN away
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again. All right, this game, All right,
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Right around bedtime, I'm getting my daughter's in bed.
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Both of them are in bed. They're, you know, 7 and now 4.
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So I'm like, all right, great. We've got, you know, I still
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call him a newborn, but I guess he's four months old.
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I'm getting him together and we're doing something.
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I think he had a diaper change. It's a whole whole situation.
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And I'm like huffing and puffing and I'm like, OK, well, do you
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know the the kickoff's delayed? So we're fine.
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Everything's fine. I'm going to make it back
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because I really like seeing the beginning of a game.
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I mean, I'm a purist. I know you are too.
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Like, dude, just let me. I want to see national anthem.
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I want this, the whole thing to start.
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I'm like, look, if I can at least see opening kickoff, we're
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fine. I don't have to, you know, if I
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need to pause at the first commercial is fine.
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Anyways, I'm saying this whole story because I finally get my
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son ready and I bring him in. I'm like, I'll just bring him in
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to watch the first couple of plays while my wife gets ready
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because then she's going to take the kid and I'll be able to
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watch this game in in peace uninterrupted.
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I I swear we're not a 1950s household, but that's how it
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goes. Anyways, that being said, I
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hustle and I'm like oh OK, I've only missed the opening kickoff
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because all I do is look at the clock.
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Oregon has the ball. I had seen that they were going
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to receive. So I saw they were going to
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receive, ran back to the room and then came back out and I saw
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the clock what was like 1414 and yeah, 14521449 and they ran a
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play. I was like oh OK.
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I was like and I still have not noticed on the score bug how it
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says 7 to nothing. I hadn't noticed.
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And I'm sitting here like, OK, I'm like, oh dude, Oregon,
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they're coming with it. And I look and I'm like 7.
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Nothing. I thought Oregon received.
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Did you say 7? And I was like maybe I missed
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some, maybe I missed something that they did not receive and
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maybe I heard wrong, but in the end received and they ran it
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back. I go back and watch because I
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missed the pick 6. And so I came back and watched
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it flabbergasted. Dude, that was an amazing play.
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And dude, it was, it was, it was so good.
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And then watching Oregon go down, same feeling that you had
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go down and score. Indiana then answers and then
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there was some go back and forth and then Oregon got a punt
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punted to them. And I don't know if they fumble
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on that play. I can't remember the exchange,
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but that was their moment to go down and like tie it up.
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It was 14 to 7 and Oregon received the ball back and then
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they didn't. I think they had a turnover as
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they were. They were, you know.
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They had like a fourth down they went for they didn't get and it
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was like a turnover very quickly.
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It was just, it's like when it rains, it pours and.
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Yeah, it, it turned into, you know, very much yeah.
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Let me see here. Yeah, I'm not going to, I'm not
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going to rehash it all. Anyways.
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It was very much I, I just remember being like Oregon's in
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this. I was, of course pulling for
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Oregon because I wanted to be right.
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Picked Oregon. And then as soon as that
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happened, I was like, dude, Annie is just too good.
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You can't go 3 O in turnovers against this Indiana team.
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They're not going to beat themselves.
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You've said it, others have said it.
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And so I mean Fernando Mendoza, 77 passing yards at 5
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touchdowns. I mean, this guy's on a short
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field all game. You know, they're not, they're
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not having to, they're they're not having a good length of the
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field. They're doing the little things
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right. They're playing.
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They're good in all three phases.
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It's not just, you know, a good defense that's propping up the
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offense or vice versa, or a special team like they're
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putting themselves in position every game.
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This was the quintessential opportunity right here of a very
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good Oregon team with very many NFL players all across the
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field. So, yeah, I mean, hats off to
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Indiana. The family.
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And I went on Saturday, Jacob, I mentioned this to you and you
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and Hunter, I was driving up to Chattanooga just to go for a
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Family Day on Saturday, and I'd forgotten that.
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Oh, yeah, the Peach Bowl was in Atlanta, and we were surrounded
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by Indiana fans. I mean, there was probably, I
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mean, probably 100 people that I saw on the way that we're all
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traveling back home. So it kind of gave me a sense of
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I don't know if nostalgia is the right word, but just like, hey,
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this is really cool to see a fan base going through this for the
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first time for whatever we think about the current state of
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college football, Indiana. So I'm with you.
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I am pulling for Indiana in this championship for this for the
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reasons that you stated of wanting the a champion to be
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representative of the whole season and how they've they've
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overcome all that. But really do these Indiana
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fans, I mean, they are experiencing this for the first
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time. It's really cool story.
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And like they've been waiting for something like this to
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happen. If someone was like all these
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brand new Indiana fans, I'm like, they've been Indiana fans.
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This is a huge, you know, alumni, and I think it's the
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biggest living alumni. Someone said that.
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But these are all basketball fans that have been like, yeah,
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I mean, we'll watch Indiana football, but like, it do
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people. They haven't had anything to
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cheer about, so now they do. Congrats to them.
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This is very fun. But yeah, dude, we're here.
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They won. We've got Indiana, Miami.
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Let's not belabor the point, dude.
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Let's talk about this national championship.
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Indiana, Miami, 15 and O versus 13 and two, one more game.
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Indiana going for, I mean, it's not even controversial at this
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point. Indiana going for what could be
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one of the greatest runs ever in the sport, one of the greatest
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stories in the history of this word.
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I would say if Indiana wins, it would be the greatest story in
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the sport in my lifetime and by far since we started covering
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college football on this podcast.
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Indiana's a 8 1/2 point favorite.
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This, this started off Daniel. I thought I'd sell it at 5 1/2
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for 6 1/2, maybe start off at 6 1/2 and it is crept up to 8 1/2.
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I've seen some people pick Miami, though.
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We'll see what the late money does, but we've got it here at 8
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1/2 points. It's in Miami.
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It is in or Coral Gables. I mean, it's in the stadium or
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Miami plays their home football games for the national
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championship. They're in Hard Rock Stadium.
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Daniel, who do you have winning the college football national
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championship? Yeah.
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You know what the get in price is for this?
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Have you seen it? Oh, I looked at was it like 7
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grand or something? No.
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No, no, it's not that bad, but it is. 3 grand. $3100 yeah, 3
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grand to get in that mean there's like, you know, $30,000
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seats in the lower bowl, I mean. Super Bowl million.
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Dollar, Yeah. So this is this is a big time
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deal. It's crazy, you know, Miami
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being in it at home is crazy when Miami fans don't normally
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even go to Hard Rock Stadium. They didn't realize that they
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could do this all year and it would be cheaper.
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Their team maybe wouldn't lose at home.
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Indiana, I think this is going to be Indiana crowd again.
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I think these people have money to spend.
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They're waiting on it. So, yeah, I'm excited to see
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this one. I think that, you know, you've
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got as far as the breakdown of the game, they are very similar
21:21
in that they're both balanced. You're not going to make it this
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far and not be balanced. They both play complimentary
21:26
football. I think that you've got
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obviously the higher rated players from Miami that have
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been maybe higher recruited and you know, whatever you want to
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do. But Indiana has the benefit of,
21:37
you know, having guys that have played together a lot, guys that
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are older. And I think that, you know,
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there there's been that stat going around.
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And I think we've maybe mentioned that last week about
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obviously the age of these Indiana players and just the
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product of what, you know, the portal and the, you know, being
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able to approve the additional years for some of these JMU
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players that have transferred. But their average age is 23 and
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like the Green Bay Packers average age is 25.
22:05
So, you know, people joke about the idea of, you know, like Ohio
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State playing against the terrible Cleveland Browns, who
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would win? And it's like, dude, Miles
22:16
Garrett would have 10 sacks by halftime.
22:18
You know, this is you're talking about a grown man playing
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against college players. That's kind.
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That's kind of how Indiana has, you know, something that we
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haven't been paying enough attention to throughout the
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regular season just because of the brand.
22:32
It's been right off Indiana. At least I have.
22:34
So that's going to be a factor. Man, you've got grown men
22:37
playing. Get some guys who are grown men,
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but they're, you know, not as physically mature.
22:43
You know, these guys. If, if there's a 25 year old
22:46
Indiana player going against the 19 year old in Miami player, you
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know, it doesn't matter how much higher rated the Miami guy is.
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If the Indiana player is comparable, he's got grown man's
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strength. He might have a mortgage, you
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know, so I I'm taking that into account as well, but I don't
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want that to minimize. Fernando Mendoza has been
23:07
incredibly efficient and I think that he's just been all I talked
23:12
about Carson Beck with his legs earlier.
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Mendoza with his legs has gotten out of a couple of bad plays
23:18
against Oregon and you know, against Ohio, Ohio State and the
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Big 10 championship. And he throughout the throughout
23:26
the season, he's had some big plays with his legs that I think
23:29
have extended drives or have have given Indiana some life.
23:34
So I am picking Indiana. They're probably hate me to do
23:38
this. This is the first time I've
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picked them all year. I'm going to pick them to cover.
23:42
I think that Miami has enough turnover ability or problem.
23:48
I think they're going to run into some things with Indiana
23:51
where Indiana's again, not going to beat themselves.
23:54
Miami might take some chances that will lead to additional
23:57
Indiana possessions. They've got that gene in them.
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I mean, Carson Best got 11 interceptions.
24:03
He's been a little bit of a hot streak recently, of course,
24:05
getting to where he is now. But I think that that is a
24:09
possibility. If they played it straight up, I
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think Indiana wins. But the line, for it to be a
24:15
cover for Indiana, I think there's gonna have to be
24:17
turnovers. And I think that that happens.
24:19
So give me the Hoosiers. I'm gonna lay the points.
24:22
I'm also taking Indiana and I'm also laying the points, not just
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rooting for it. I'm picking them, Daniel.
24:27
But let me say the other side, though, because this is the
24:29
national championship, so we've got time to break this down a
24:31
little bit. Like how does Miami win this
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game? I think it's easy.
24:34
They continue to run the ball at the clip they've done throughout
24:38
the playoff, which is at least 150 yards a game.
24:40
They've done that in every playoff game.
24:41
Their defense, a lot will be said about this.
24:43
I'll say it here too, Their lines of scrimmage outweighs
24:47
Indiana's lines of scrimmage. I think it's by an average of
24:50
like 40 lbs. It's something crazy of like the
24:53
Miami's much bigger on the lines of scrimmage in look in 2025
24:58
that still wins football games. So I think that if Miami were to
25:03
win this game, they dominate the line of scrimmage, which they're
25:05
more than capable of. They're able to run the ball
25:08
against a very stout Indiana run defense, which no one's really
25:12
been able to do all season. And they score touchdowns in the
25:15
red zone. And Carson Beck is going to have
25:17
to come up clutch in that area cuz Indiana's been elite in the
25:21
red zone. So Carson Beck, maybe he's been
25:24
decent at that this year. When that field gets short,
25:27
though, that Indiana defense has been locked down.
25:30
I don't think it happens. I think Indiana's going to hold
25:32
them to under 150 rushing yards. India.
25:35
Look, I've said turnovers are random.
25:37
They absolutely are. Indiana keeps forcing him.
25:41
And I think it's it's it's not random whenever you scout so
25:44
well that you put yourself in the position for turnovers to
25:48
happen. It's not random when you've
25:51
already played through two offensive lines, no three
25:55
offensive lines, including the Big 10 Championship that are
25:58
bigger than you this season in a row and you still for sacks and
26:02
sack fumbles with rushing 3 or 4.
26:05
Indiana's done it all season. They've been the best team in
26:07
college football season. I think Fernando Mendoza
26:11
probably has like a 24 of 30 kind of night for 2:50.
26:17
Just nice and nice and easy. I think this guy, I think
26:20
Indiana gets the 31st. I don't think Miami can keep up.
26:24
That's kind of how I see the game going.
26:25
I think this is like a 31 to 20 national championship for
26:31
Indiana. I think Miami keeps it closer
26:33
than Oregon did because I think that's the style of game they're
26:36
going to play where my like my, I think there there will be
26:39
limited possession. There wasn't no Oregon game that
26:41
got out of hand quickly because of the the whole Oregon found
26:45
themselves in. So they they abandoned the rush
26:47
very quickly in that game. And so a lot more touches, a lot
26:51
less clock running off a lot ball, ball was coming on the
26:54
ground more stopping the clock. So I think there are less
26:56
possessions in this game. So we'll keep it lower scoring.
26:59
But I do think Indiana wins and covers go 16 and O first team to
27:02
go 16 and O in college football ever.
27:04
And that we're sitting here talking about next Wednesday.
27:07
One of the greatest stories in college football history.
27:09
I think of that's not being hyperbolic whenever I say that.
27:12
So give me the Hoosiers to win and cover when the national
27:16
championship. And Daniel, we've talked with us
27:18
a lot on this podcast. Be the first team ever to
27:21
breakthrough the blue chip ratio and we can talk about what
27:26
that's. Going to say, do you think that,
27:27
but Elliott's pulling for Miami, known Florida State guy pulling
27:30
for Miami to keep his blue chip ratio intact.
27:33
I don't think so. He has said even the article
27:35
that like there will be a team that breaks this.
27:38
But I'll say the the I was going to talk about this after the
27:42
natty if it happens, the profile of a team that could beat it, he
27:46
said, was always OK. Who are teams that almost did
27:49
it? Oregon in 2010 was not a blue
27:52
chip ratio team. It's like a Heisman level
27:55
quarterback, which Indiana does have that like, you know, brings
28:00
a roster, but it helps them play above that level or like a few
28:04
skilled players to help with that.
28:07
And I thought in the playoff era wouldn't happen.
28:09
Here's where I think Indiana's the exception is because I still
28:11
think they're the exception, not the rule in that how many more
28:15
teams are we going to have to have an average age of 23 years
28:18
old where these players have played together?
28:21
It's been at 2 schools, but they've stayed together for Four
28:23
Seasons under Signetti and they've kind of all just hung
28:25
together and this is their fourth year in the system, their
28:28
elite. This has been amazing.
28:30
Coaching next year's Indiana team, regardless of Monday
28:33
night's result, is going to be a fascinating case study because
28:38
this roster just. I mean, unless the unless you're
28:41
getting 10 years of eligibility, the rosters not hanging around
28:44
much longer, so. Yes, this is 47 players that'll
28:48
be out of eligibility that are currently in there.
28:52
Yeah, they'll have 22 seniors next year.
28:55
I did go look at it. 22 seniors. So it's a normal senior.
28:58
It's a big senior class, but just a normal senior class.
29:02
A normal big Senior class 22 Seniors 8.
29:06
Juniors 41. Wow, yeah, that's it's so funny.
29:10
That's another thing. The term freshman, sophomore,
29:13
whatever gets so confusing when red shirts and it's just like,
29:16
all right, how many a rule got introduced?
29:19
We we've kind of stayed away from college football news just
29:21
because I want to focus on the football of it all.
29:22
And we'll have a whole offseason talk about some news and stuff.
29:25
But the red shirt rule was approved.
29:28
It's got coach approval for the red shirt to be extended through
29:31
nine games. Daniel, what are we doing?
29:34
Can we just give everyone five years of eligibility and be done
29:36
with it like and let's just like it's.
29:38
You're saying it got approved where they can play in nine
29:41
games and steal red shirt? Yes, like unanimous coach
29:44
approval at least. I don't know if the rules gone
29:46
through yet, but I'm just like, can we just like, this is silly.
29:49
Can we just give everyone five years and be done?
29:52
Just like you get 5 years from the time you start and like, you
29:55
know, if you start in 2020, you're done by 2025 period.
29:58
You're done. Got to get kicked out anyway.
30:01
I'm just like, what are we doing 9 games?
30:02
What are we doing? Just give him a, just give him a
30:04
fifth year. Much easier to keep track of.
30:06
Then we could just be like, what year they, they're a third year
30:09
player. They're a fourth year player.
30:10
They're a fifth year player and we can just easy to track.
30:14
It's too simple. Daniel.
30:15
We've both got Indiana. Gosh, I hope we don't jinx them.
30:19
We we've not picked India. I mean, I picked Illinois on
30:21
this podcast. I picked Oregon on this podcast.
30:23
We previewed a Penn State potential upset.
30:25
Even though we didn't talk about that game.
30:28
We both picked Ohio State. I picked Indiana gets Bama.
30:32
You know what I did pick? Indiana gets Bama dude.
30:34
I picked Kennesaw State to be Indiana.
30:36
I am the most guilty of anybody for this whole.
30:42
So Indiana fans, you know, hey, I'm sorry, but also you're
30:48
welcome if you'd like to think about it like that.
30:51
Did you know it was at least four games this year?
30:54
The Indiana had a first drive Pick 6.
30:58
I did not know that. Again, talking about scouting,
31:00
that's jumping some route to know what's coming early.
31:03
So look transparently. I'm rooting for them.
31:05
They've and again, my rooting interest is they have been the
31:07
best team through 15 games. I want to see them finish it.
31:11
I want the best team in college football to be crowned the
31:13
national champion, which is what I think the job of a playoff or
31:18
playing for a national championship should do a good
31:20
job of. All right, one quick thing.
31:23
The funniest outcome is Miami winning because the ACC is on
31:28
the outs and everybody thinks they're illegitimate.
31:31
They were probably going to be left out of the playoff in and
31:35
of itself, not just Miami, but the ACC as a whole.
31:38
And they are currently going through turmoil.
31:42
Miami is not even one of the big dogs in the ACC.
31:45
Allegedly Clemson and Florida State are trying to big dog the
31:48
ACC while imploding and it's it is a crazy scenario.
31:54
And Miami, who did not win the ACC, potentially winning it all.
32:00
I mean, it would be a the most ACC coastal thing for college
32:05
football to do is for Miami to win.
32:08
And so that's all I can think of.
32:10
If dude, if Miami was the national championship, imagine
32:13
what Virginia Duke could have done in this playoff.
32:14
Considering. Manny Diaz won the ACC before
32:18
Miami did, but Miami's about to win the natty.
32:23
I saw that. Go ahead.
32:25
I mean, I was just going to say like Manny Diaz, the ultimate
32:29
Miami Hurricane, the fact that he went there and did what he
32:33
did it do so that might he walked so Miami could run.
32:37
That's right. Yeah.
32:39
I love it Daniel. We will be back next Wednesday
32:43
to recap the national championship and put a bow in
32:47
the 2025 season. What kind of recap the whole
32:49
season? Do a post mortem?
32:51
The college football season will bring you our thoughts on the
32:53
end of the season and talk about college football's national
32:57
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