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The Rita Panahi Show | 15 September · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scorn lids Ostrodia.
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Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show.
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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show.
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Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, the Liberal Party's leadership crisis as they
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Speaker 4: sing to new lows under the leader Susan Lee, with
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Speaker 4: a primary vote sitting at twenty seven percent. Dan wil
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Speaker 4: will join me shortly to discuss that and much more.
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Speaker 4: I'll speak to the great Josh Hammer, who was a
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Speaker 4: close friend of Charlie Kirk. He has plenty to say
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Speaker 4: about the modern left's taste bought violence. Corey DeAngelis will
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Speaker 4: be in the studio and we'll look at the state
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Speaker 4: of academia and while Charlie Kirk saw it as the major.
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Speaker 3: Threat to Western civilization. And later in the hour Gabriella Power.
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Speaker 4: We'll have more on the life and legacy of the
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Speaker 4: man many saw as a future president.
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Speaker 3: And we never forget left.
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Speaker 4: He is losing it tonight, featuring this awful woman.
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Speaker 5: The only people I have any empathy for in the
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Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk situation are his victims.
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Speaker 6: That is it.
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Speaker 4: Let's stick with the far left, the Australian far Left's
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Speaker 4: dangerously deranged reaction to the assassination of Charlie Kirk, a
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Speaker 4: brave conservative Christian father of Too, famous for his political debates.
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Speaker 4: Let's begin with radical feminist Clementine Ford, who shortly after
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Speaker 4: Charlie's death posted a series of vile rants, some from
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Speaker 4: her car, apparently condemning progressives who oppose political violence and
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Speaker 4: even explicitly calling for it.
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Speaker 7: There's still this impulse that so many white people have,
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Speaker 7: nice white, progressive, middle class white people have to respond
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Speaker 7: to things like this with these kind of very somber
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Speaker 7: faced violence is never the answer, likeck, what the heck
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Speaker 7: are you talking about?
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Speaker 6: But just remember he died doing what he loved, defending guns.
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Speaker 6: He took a bullet for the cause, and according to
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Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk, a few deaths a year from guns is
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Speaker 6: a small price to pay to defend the Second Amendment.
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Speaker 6: So what more could he possibly ask for.
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Speaker 7: It's a tribute and legacy to the pointlessness of his life.
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Speaker 3: You should be.
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Speaker 6: Glad that this is how he went out.
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Speaker 4: And if that wasn't bad enough, the New Daily published
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Speaker 4: a piece by the Australian Institute's Amy Romiekers, who wrote, sadly,
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Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk was killed in the America he wanted.
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Speaker 3: But will I mourn him? No?
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Speaker 4: I mourned for the people suffering in the world he
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Speaker 4: helped create and helped gloating dominion over. Kirk represented everything
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Speaker 4: we should.
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Speaker 3: Be pushing back against.
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Speaker 4: Tolerating the intolerable makes us all crueler and validates those
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Speaker 4: who have no compassion for anyone they don't understand. I
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Speaker 4: refuse to said the greatness in that I mourned the
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Speaker 4: loss of life, but not what Charlie Kirk did with his.
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Speaker 4: That woman is in desperate need of a mirror. The
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Speaker 4: New Daily has since removed that piece. The question needs
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Speaker 4: to be asked, why was it ever published?
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Speaker 3: And let's have a look at this.
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Speaker 4: Post from Cheek Media CEO Far Left influencer Hannah Ferguson.
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Speaker 4: In it, she writes, am I glad Charlie Kirk will
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Speaker 4: no longer spread his extremist messaging?
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Speaker 3: She answered that with yes, And.
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Speaker 4: She also asked is violence sometimes necessary?
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Speaker 3: And again she said yes.
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Speaker 4: Now that post was liked by none other than till
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Speaker 4: mp Zali Stegel, but she has since unliked it and
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Speaker 4: condemned Kirk's assassination and responds to a wave of criticism
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Speaker 4: in the media, although she still maintains that liking does.
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Speaker 3: Not equal endorsement.
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Speaker 4: So if you like a post on Instagram, it doesn't
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Speaker 4: mean you actually like it. Try to figure that out.
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Speaker 4: And finally we had this from Abby Chatfield.
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Speaker 3: Of course we did. She wrote he was.
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Speaker 4: A dangerous far right extremist who said that he doesn't
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Speaker 4: believe in empathy. He has said that the Civil Rights
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Speaker 4: Act was a huge mistake.
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Speaker 3: He has said that gay people should be stoned to death.
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Speaker 4: He has said that public executions should occur.
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Speaker 3: And be televised.
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Speaker 4: He has even said that if his daughter were ten
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Speaker 4: years old and were pregnant through rape, he would force
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Speaker 4: her to carry the child to turn. The man was evil.
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Speaker 4: Now what's evil is your deranged response the ugly hyperbole
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Speaker 4: and lies that I.
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Speaker 3: Just read out.
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Speaker 4: Joining me now is IPA Deputy executive director Daniel Wild. Dan,
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Speaker 4: have you seen the past four days Some of the
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Speaker 4: commentary has been beyond.
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Speaker 8: Unhinged, yall, I completely agree with you, Rita. I think
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Speaker 8: the mask has really slipped on the modern left and
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Speaker 8: what it is that they truly believe. You know, when
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Speaker 8: we've heard them say that words are violence, that was
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Speaker 8: sort of the permission structure that they created to you know,
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Speaker 8: sort of have this false equivalence between someone having you know,
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Speaker 8: hurt feelings therefore justifying violent actions against somebody else. And
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Speaker 8: so you know, these ideas have consequences.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 8: What it also shows to me is that the Left
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Speaker 8: have no interest in debate. We saw that here with
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Speaker 8: the Voice to Parliament referendum, where if you oppose that,
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Speaker 8: you were just called a racist rather than actually having
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Speaker 8: a debate about it. Same with the gay marriage Plever site,
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Speaker 8: you were called homophobic and said it was insensitive to
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Speaker 8: debate and have a vote on that particular issue. So, look,
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Speaker 8: the Left really have no interest in engaging in debate.
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Speaker 8: They seek to dehumanize their political opponents, which then legitimizes
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Speaker 8: a whole range of actions, including the assassination of a
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Speaker 8: prominent public figure.
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Speaker 4: There is a growing list of people getting fired for
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Speaker 4: dancing on Charlie Kirk's gray, from MSNBC commentators to nurses
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Speaker 4: and teachers and even shop assistants. Let's have a look
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Speaker 4: at a few examples here. We've had a nurse in
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Speaker 4: Atlanta Children's Hospital. She was fired for posting f his kids,
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Speaker 4: f his ancestors, especially the b who birthed him Charming,
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Speaker 4: the assistant dean of students at Middle Tennessee State University,
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Speaker 4: was fired after she wrote looks like old Charlie spoke
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Speaker 4: his fate into existence. Hate begets hate, zero sympathy. DC
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Speaker 4: Comics has also fired author Gretchen fel kirk Martin and
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Speaker 4: terminated the latest comics series she wrote, called Red Hood,
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Speaker 4: after she posted thoughts and Prayers U Nazi b hoped
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Speaker 4: the bullets okay after touching Charlie kirk Dan. My opinion
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Speaker 4: is that sunlight is the best in dis infectant.
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Speaker 3: I'm glad these characters.
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Speaker 4: Fell emboldened enough to share their bile online, and I'm
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Speaker 4: not the least bit sorry that there are some consequences.
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Speaker 3: I agree.
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Speaker 8: I mean, there should be consequences. These people should lose
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Speaker 8: their job, you know. But the problem is that a
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Speaker 8: lot of these people that you mentioned just then and
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Speaker 8: earlier are not necessarily sort of fringe players. I mean,
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Speaker 8: you know, Abby Chatfield had Anthony Albanesi on her podcast,
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Speaker 8: you know, so it's sort of the leadership of the left,
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Speaker 8: the political leadership of the left, have sort of legitimized
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Speaker 8: the opinions of a lot of these a lot of
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Speaker 8: these individuals, so there's sort of that issue. I think
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Speaker 8: the other point here is that we've had a real
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Speaker 8: generation that's been brainwashed through our education system and through
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Speaker 8: the rabbit holes that they go down in the media
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Speaker 8: and the sort of echo chambers that they occupy. Now
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Speaker 8: that they really do believe these things because they've never
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Speaker 8: been challenged. And all you have to do is look
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Speaker 8: at Charlie Kirk's videos when he's university, and really all
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Speaker 8: it takes this two or three minutes of questioning of
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Speaker 8: one of these sort of radical activists, and their arguments
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Speaker 8: and their beliefs just don't hold up. They don't stand
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Speaker 8: up to any kind of scrutiny. So that's why they
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Speaker 8: actively avoid debate. Because their opinions and their conclusions, whether
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Speaker 8: it's on climate change or whether it's on identity politics
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Speaker 8: and transgenderism, I mean, they are absurd.
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Speaker 4: Dan, You're right about these characters normalizing this sort of
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Speaker 4: extremist rhetoric and the lies they operate on. I read
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Speaker 4: out one of the lies right there that's circulating from
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Speaker 4: Abby Chatfield saying that Charlie Kirk thought that gay should
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Speaker 4: be stoned to death. I mean just takes fifteen seconds
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Speaker 4: to check that out and realize it's not accurate. Don't
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Speaker 4: put it online. Now I'm going to ask you about
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Speaker 4: the latest news poll. It is disastrous for the Liberal Party.
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Speaker 4: For the coalition, Susan Lee has recorded the worst ever
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Speaker 4: primary vote. They're now sitting at a mere twenty seven
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Speaker 4: percent Labors thirty six percent.
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Speaker 3: That means the two party.
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Speaker 4: Preferred is currently fifty eight to forty two percent in
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Speaker 4: the ALP's favor. Dan, how much longer can Susan Lee
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Speaker 4: remain leader of the Liberal Party.
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Speaker 8: Well, that's the question, isn't it. Look, I don't know.
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Speaker 8: I'll leave this sort of the personalities to others, but
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Speaker 8: I'll make a broader comment about what these results show.
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Speaker 8: They show that the Liberal Parties moved to the left
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Speaker 8: has failed. The further to the left the Liberal Party goes,
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Speaker 8: they're lower they standing in the community, you know, and
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Speaker 8: we can see that very clearly from Scott Morrison when
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Speaker 8: he signed up to net zero. That was really the
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Speaker 8: beginning of this decline. And the reason for that is
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Speaker 8: because the community knows that the Liberal Party is not
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Speaker 8: being authentic. Authenticity is the key thing for any political
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Speaker 8: party and for the leadership of any political party and
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Speaker 8: voters think that you're pandering to them for sort of
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Speaker 8: craven political reasons and they'll mark you down for that.
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Speaker 8: So what mainstream Australians want is a clearly defined center
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Speaker 8: right party. They don't want to pay limitation of labor
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Speaker 8: and of the Greens. And that's exactly what's been happening.
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Speaker 8: And I'm not just criticized. I'm not criticizing Susan Lee.
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Speaker 8: This has been something that's been in the making now
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Speaker 8: for a number of years.
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Speaker 4: Dan, You're right, and having Susan Lee as leader isn't
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Speaker 4: going to fix that problem.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time tonight.
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Speaker 4: Joining me now is American Culture Projects Senior fellow and
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Speaker 4: best selling author Corey DeAngelis. Isn't Australia for seapack in
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Speaker 4: Brisbane this weekend now, Corey, like Charlie, your focus is
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Speaker 4: schools and academia. Charlie believed the greatest threat to Western
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Speaker 4: civilization is what's going on in our college campuses today.
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Speaker 4: And it starts well before that, doesn't it. The indoctrination
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Speaker 4: has become part of the curriculum.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a total problem.
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Speaker 2: You think that these issues just started the the higher
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Speaker 2: education levels, but it actually is much deeper than that.
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Speaker 2: The government school system is ripping apart society and it's
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Speaker 2: very fabric and it's very core. At the K through
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Speaker 2: twelve level, you have far left radicals that have infiltrated
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Speaker 2: this government school system, that have figured out that they
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Speaker 2: can move the direction of our country without even having
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Speaker 2: their own kids, by controlling these elite institutions that spend
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Speaker 2: so much money, and they're turning these these students against
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Speaker 2: their own countries. So I mean, it's it's it's a
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Speaker 2: huge problem. And Charlie Kirk was right that, you know,
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Speaker 2: the these institutions that are supposed to be about learning
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Speaker 2: are a threat to civilization because of the divisiveness. You
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Speaker 2: look at the critical race theory studies, diversity.
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Speaker 3: Equity in.
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Speaker 4: Not just academia. It spreads from those college campuses. Those
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Speaker 4: graduates take it into the corporate world. So it's in
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Speaker 4: your highschad departments, it's in public institutions and private institutions.
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Speaker 4: And with saying that really the hostile manner that anyone
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Speaker 4: who deviates from leftist thought is treated on university campuses,
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Speaker 4: let's have a look at some students at Boston University
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Speaker 4: have called on campus leaders to protect them from violence
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Speaker 4: and intimidation, saying that they fear for their safety amid
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Speaker 4: on campus celebrations of Charlie Kirk's murder. And this is
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Speaker 4: just sickening, Cory. But this is the reality on university campuses.
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Speaker 4: And I don't think it's just restricted to the US.
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Speaker 4: It would be evident in the UK and right here
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Speaker 4: in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the US, we've seen a lot of anti
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Speaker 2: semitism on campus. We've seen these ideas pushed by the teachers'
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Speaker 2: unions as well at the keip the twelve level. And
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Speaker 2: President Trump has been going to war with these universities
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Speaker 2: and filing lawsuits against them, trying to stop them from
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Speaker 2: getting federal funding. And he's been dealt a lot of
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Speaker 2: victories lately, with Harvard University seeding ground, Columbia University and
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Speaker 2: others getting these hundreds of millions of dollars in settlements
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Speaker 2: paying out to the Trump administration for not being safe
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Speaker 2: for Jewish students. But it's even worse than that these
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Speaker 2: institutions aren't safe for conservative students. It's a one sided
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Speaker 2: political echo chamber. You look at Harvard University. For example,
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Speaker 2: ninety five percent of their campaign contributions from people affiliated
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Speaker 2: with Harvard University, according to Open Secrets, went to Democrats.
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Speaker 3: It's a money laundering operation.
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Speaker 4: Essentially, there was even five percent. I'm resuming that five
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Speaker 4: percent went to independent.
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Speaker 1: Candidate name Bernie Sanders.
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Speaker 3: Possibly. Now let's turn our attention. You mentioned the teachers unions.
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Speaker 4: Randy Wintergarden the president of the American Federation of Teachers Union.
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Speaker 4: This week she's speaking at a Teachers Against Fascists conference,
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Speaker 4: and let me guess, Siyakory, the fascists, in the eyes
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Speaker 4: of her and the teachers Unions are people like Charlie Kirk,
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Speaker 4: people like the president and more than half the that supports.
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Speaker 2: And basically anyone who is to the right of Karl
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Speaker 2: Marx must be a fascist, according to Randy Winegarten. And
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Speaker 2: she put out this book and she's still releasing it
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Speaker 2: on Tuesday, called why Fascist for Your Teachers? She copied
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Speaker 2: my book cover, by the way, and in my book
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Speaker 2: cover I called it the Parent Revolution. The word parent
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Speaker 2: wasn't read in her book. The word fascist is in read.
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Speaker 2: So it seems like she's calling parents fascist. The unions
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Speaker 2: think they own your kids and Randy Winegarten at a
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Speaker 2: time where we really need to tone it down in America.
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Speaker 2: She's continuing with her book toward to continue getting more sales.
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Speaker 2: She cares about herself, she doesn't care about the country.
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Speaker 4: And really, when you are calling your political opponents fascist
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Speaker 4: modern day Hitler's, when you're characterizing them in those absurd terms,
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Speaker 4: but terms that the left increasingly believed, then you really
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Speaker 4: are licensing some deranged person with a gun to kill them,
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Speaker 4: Because who wouldn't kill hit Life You could avoid what
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Speaker 4: after Hitla? You would do everything in your power to
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Speaker 4: do that. So they know precisely how dangerous it is that.
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Speaker 4: I know the history of violence from the left in
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Speaker 4: the past decade, but they will continue to do this
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Speaker 4: after the assassination attempt against President Trump and now what's
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Speaker 4: happened to Charlie.
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Speaker 3: It's incredible, I mean, it's insane.
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Speaker 2: And the left has been known to equate words with violence,
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Speaker 2: and so you're right when they continue to call people
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Speaker 2: like Trump and anyone on the right a fascist or
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Speaker 2: a dictator. Randy Weingarten was at an event in Chicago
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Speaker 2: just a week or two ago where she was calling
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Speaker 2: President Trump a pharaoh, saying that he was worse than
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Speaker 2: all the pharaohs, and in Exodus in the Bible, the
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Speaker 2: Pharaoh wouldn't let God's people free, and he ordered the
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Speaker 2: mass killings of newborn Israelites. So just insane. The rhetoric
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Speaker 2: has been turned up to volume eleven.
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Speaker 4: Whilst the left says, let's lower the temperature.
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Speaker 3: After time, it is.
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Speaker 2: Just total gas lighting, total hipocrips, rejection.
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Speaker 4: And gas lighting. That's all they have. Corey Deangelas, thank
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Speaker 4: you so much for your time.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 3: Reader still to cam Lefties losing It.
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Speaker 4: Plus, I'll speak to a close friend of Charlie Kirk
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Speaker 4: and he has plenty to say about the modern left's
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Speaker 4: taste for violence.
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Speaker 3: Josh Hammer is up next.
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Speaker 4: You're watching the Reader Patty Show, and it's time for
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Speaker 4: Lefties losing it and the broken, soulless schools of the
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Speaker 4: Left have really disgraced themselves in recent days after the
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Speaker 4: murder of a great American, Charlie Kirk. No matter how
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Speaker 4: low our opinion, our expectations of these miserable miscreants of
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Speaker 4: the Left, they still manage to surprise us with the
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Speaker 4: depth of their depravity.
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Speaker 6: The sympathy for Charlie Kirk is looking weird.
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Speaker 9: You want to word, don't go ahead and google Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 1: They got him in the net rapid piece boso.
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Speaker 6: I do not feel bad for him in the slightest.
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Speaker 10: Putting down like a dog in Utah, and I could not.
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Speaker 3: Be happier Charlie would have wandered it this way.
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Speaker 11: He's been one of the most divisive younger figures who
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Speaker 11: is constantly swishing hate speech.
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Speaker 12: I think it's worth to have a cost a key
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Speaker 12: Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 10: The rhetoric of Charlie Kirk, the way that he condoned
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Speaker 10: violence exactly like this.
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Speaker 6: And how it came back to hurt him.
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Speaker 1: Everything that we're seeing with the Trump regime it.
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Speaker 3: Stems from Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 13: And we don't know if this was a supporter shooting
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Speaker 13: their gun off in celebration.
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Speaker 3: Now Here are two witches.
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Speaker 4: The first is planning to celebrate the next assassination.
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Speaker 3: These people are demonic.
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Speaker 14: If you were gonna get the job up done, there
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Speaker 14: were two better candidates. And furthermore, when that happens, and
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Speaker 14: it will, it will.
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Speaker 6: Not only will.
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Speaker 14: We be insensitive, that'll be the least of your words.
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be.
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Speaker 14: The biggest celebration, the biggest, most beautiful celebration.
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Speaker 3: Hideous, just hideous antics.
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Speaker 4: And here is one hot left troll, a vicious and
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Speaker 4: callous left is straight from Central Casting. Sadly for us,
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Speaker 4: this one's Australian.
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Speaker 5: Pretending that you don't enjoy a terrible person's death is
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Speaker 5: not dignified.
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Speaker 3: It's cowardly.
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Speaker 6: And this is.
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Speaker 5: Exactly how we got here, because this is what Trump
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Speaker 5: is an absolute master at. He is a master at
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Speaker 5: saying the worst, most uncomfortable things, and people on the
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Speaker 5: left just sitting there going, oh, I'm too scared to
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Speaker 5: say what I really think. You just go along with that,
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Speaker 5: You say nothing because it's not uncomfortable enough for you.
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Speaker 6: The only people I.
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Speaker 5: Have any empathy for in the Charlie Kirk situation are
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Speaker 5: his victims.
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Speaker 6: That is it.
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Speaker 4: Now, instead of reflecting on the utter evil of what
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Speaker 4: she said there, what she had chosen to share on
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Speaker 4: the world Wide Web, well, instead of reflecting on that,
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Speaker 4: she decided to double down on the ugliness, on the bile,
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Speaker 4: on the depraved lunacy.
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Speaker 5: All of the drama want to reiterate that it is
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Speaker 5: not wrong or unethical or unkind to laugh at the
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Speaker 5: misfortunes of terrible people. That Charlie Kirk incited violence, That's
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Speaker 5: what he did, and then that came back to haunt him.
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Speaker 5: That was his decision. So it's got nothing to do
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Speaker 5: with the people who are laughing and joking about him
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Speaker 5: becoming a human water fountain.
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Speaker 4: Just foul, vicious, deranged hate. What else can you say
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Speaker 4: about that. Let's have a brief and antidote to that ugliness.
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Speaker 4: Let's hear from Jeffrey Star, the original the OG influencer.
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Speaker 4: He had a message for those celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder.
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Speaker 13: Because I'm standing up for someone that passed away, I'm
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Speaker 13: now being called names in the chat. This is what's
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Speaker 13: wrong with the load of you people. If you will
20:40
Speaker 13: never get by in life, you were sick in the head.
20:42
Speaker 13: Someone just said there unsubscribing from me, Thank god, please,
20:45
Speaker 13: because if you believe in vandams, you're part of the problem.
20:50
Speaker 13: If you're so stupid enough to go against science, please
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Speaker 13: unfollow me. You can be whoever you want to be,
20:59
Speaker 13: but there's science and those facts.
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Speaker 3: You can pretend in your head. You're a cat.
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Speaker 12: You can pretend in your head that you're.
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Speaker 3: This and you're that.
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Speaker 13: Good for you, You're still on the airb and the
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Speaker 13: truth hurts a lot of you.
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Speaker 4: I see, and huge props to Jeffrey's staff for that.
21:15
Speaker 4: He posted plenty more on the issue. His following is enormous.
21:19
Speaker 4: He has over thirteen million followers on Instagram alone and
21:23
Speaker 4: many more on TikTok, and many of them are.
21:27
Speaker 3: Of the left.
21:28
Speaker 4: He pays a big price every time he speaks up,
21:30
Speaker 4: and that takes courage, and it's all about courage and
21:34
Speaker 4: conviction if you want to know why Charlie's work was
21:37
Speaker 4: so important, so important in giving confidence to students to
21:42
Speaker 4: speak freely, to conservatives, to boldly state their position in
21:46
Speaker 4: the face of enormous intimidation on university campuses.
21:51
Speaker 3: Let's have a look at this clip.
21:52
Speaker 4: This intimidation is not just from radicalized students, it's also
21:56
Speaker 4: from academia. Listen to what happened to this young man.
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Speaker 1: What happened.
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Speaker 10: I was walking to Valhalla to get my food exchange
22:03
Speaker 10: and PHG student Patrick Mahoney as well as his accomplice
22:06
Speaker 10: Gerald Hoff, did not like the hat I was wearing,
22:08
Speaker 10: and when my head was down, I made zero eye
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Speaker 10: contact with him. He saw my hat, He ripped the
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Speaker 10: hat off, my head crumbled it. I had to go
22:15
Speaker 10: confront him and said, what are you doing to what happened?
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Speaker 5: Next?
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Speaker 10: He charged on me after grabbed my chest, slammed it
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Speaker 10: on the road payment. Then he grabbed my head and
22:22
Speaker 10: also slammed it on the road pavement as well.
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Speaker 12: And this was a professor, right, Yeah, If a conservative
22:26
Speaker 12: professor would have hunted down a Kamala Harris wearing student,
22:29
Speaker 12: it would have been a hate crime and the number
22:31
Speaker 12: one news story in the country. Now we could barely
22:33
Speaker 12: get attention for a young man who was punched by
22:35
Speaker 12: a professor here at Washington State University. They're the ones
22:38
Speaker 12: dividing the country, were the ones trying to.
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Speaker 4: Hear They're the ones dividing the country. Charlie was trying
22:44
Speaker 4: to bring it together through respectful debate. But how do
22:48
Speaker 4: you debate people like this?
22:51
Speaker 6: I have breaking news. We think that Charlie Kirk.
22:58
Speaker 3: Just got shot in the neck.
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Speaker 15: Hey lived by the sword, die by the sword.
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Speaker 16: There are some people on this app that are sitting
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Speaker 16: there saying, oh, you shouldn't wish death upon any person,
23:28
Speaker 16: no matter what.
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Speaker 1: Side they're on.
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Speaker 3: That that Charlie Kirk was a Nazi. He was a Nazi.
23:37
Speaker 4: And you know what kind of nazis the that's Nazi,
23:39
Speaker 4: a dead one.
23:41
Speaker 17: Gather around, Let's all join hands and bow our heads
23:45
Speaker 17: in thoughts and prayers for Charlie Kirk.
23:48
Speaker 6: Thoughts and prayers for Charlie Cook, thoughts and presers, thoughts
23:55
Speaker 6: and prayers.
23:57
Speaker 3: I'm not sad.
23:58
Speaker 15: It's about time comer got that trash.
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Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk was a big advocate for the Second Amendment.
24:08
Speaker 6: It worked out well for him.
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Speaker 18: The best part of this whole goddamn thing is that
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Speaker 18: he is not martyr.
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Speaker 9: Material, so his death will mean nothing. It will activate
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Speaker 9: no one.
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Speaker 4: It will mean nothing. Charlie's death will mean nothing. It
24:24
Speaker 4: will impact no one.
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Speaker 9: Really, it will activate no one.
25:00
Speaker 4: The bile field left cannot comprehend the outpouring of goodwill
25:09
Speaker 4: for Charlie from ordinary people around the world, from world leaders,
25:13
Speaker 4: from artists like Coldplay and Morgan Wollen, and the tributes
25:18
Speaker 4: for Charlie have poured in from sporting leagues as well,
25:21
Speaker 4: formerly painfully woke sporting leagues like the NFL and Major
25:26
Speaker 4: League Baseball. This is the Dallas Cowboys paying tribute to
25:30
Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk and tributes to at college football games. Here
25:34
Speaker 4: is LSU honoring Charlie on the weekend in.
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Speaker 3: Front of more than one hundred and two thousand fans. S.
25:41
Speaker 6: Then you join us at.
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Speaker 11: A moment of replace and following the murders of Charlie
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Speaker 11: Kirk and or guitar arenas or Root's going.
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Speaker 5: To sign.
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Speaker 4: Us and I would hear this next tribute shows you
25:58
Speaker 4: how much the cold has shifted. This wouldn't have happened
26:02
Speaker 4: ten years ago. It wouldn't have happened a year ago.
26:05
Speaker 4: The New York Yankees and the bluest of blue cities
26:08
Speaker 4: in a blue state, paid tribute to the Happy Warrior,
26:12
Speaker 4: the man who changed so many hearts and minds. And
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Speaker 4: earlier today, the New York Jets this tribute to Charlie
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Speaker 4: Kirk's legacy before their game against the Buffalo Bills.
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Speaker 3: Again, this is New Jersey, folks, not Texas. This is
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Speaker 3: a blue state. Watch this.
26:41
Speaker 4: And the tribute from the Jets did not end there,
26:43
Speaker 4: as the crowd chanted USA. A video of Charlie and
26:47
Speaker 4: a message from his widow, Erica, played at the stadium.
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Speaker 4: Joining me now is Newsweek's senior editor at large and
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Speaker 4: Article three projects Senior Council Josh Hammer. Josh, that's something
27:16
Speaker 4: special that shows the impact Charlie Kirk had. They thought
27:21
Speaker 4: that killer's influence by taking his life, they failed.
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Speaker 19: Let me just first say, this has been really hard.
27:30
Speaker 19: This has been a really really hard week or so, Charlie.
27:34
Speaker 19: They were pretty close. I've known him for any number
27:36
Speaker 19: of years, where we really became close over the past
27:39
Speaker 19: year and a half two years. We were in virtually
27:41
Speaker 19: daily contact. Actually I spoke with him less than twenty
27:44
Speaker 19: four hours before he was assassinated. Actually, I was helping
27:48
Speaker 19: to prep him for this very campus tour, especially when
27:50
Speaker 19: it came to the inevitable bombardment of anti Israel questions there.
27:55
Speaker 19: And this is an irreplaceable void, is a gantu and
28:00
Speaker 19: void that the American right. I mean, we have lost
28:04
Speaker 19: not merely a foot soldier. We have lost not merely
28:06
Speaker 19: a colonel or lieutenant. We have lost a five star general.
28:09
Speaker 19: We have lost one of the absolute titans of our
28:12
Speaker 19: broader battle to save America and by extension, save Western civilization.
28:16
Speaker 19: We have likely lost a future president of the United States.
28:19
Speaker 19: That that is likely the path that my fallen friend,
28:23
Speaker 19: Charlie Kirk was very much on. But I guess what
28:27
Speaker 19: I didn't necessarily appreciate, kind of taking it back to
28:29
Speaker 19: the sports teams, I didn't necessarily fully appreciate the extent
28:35
Speaker 19: of Charlie's penetration of the broader culture. I know him
28:38
Speaker 19: as someone who I would frequently dialogue with about the issues.
28:41
Speaker 19: I know him as someone who, you know, I would
28:44
Speaker 19: go to Turning Point USA events. I know him as
28:46
Speaker 19: someone who I would go on his show and we
28:48
Speaker 19: were you know, But I didn't necessarily appreciate that you
28:51
Speaker 19: would have country music megastars like Morgan Wallen and Jason
28:55
Speaker 19: al Dean give out tributes mid concert to the grieving
28:58
Speaker 19: widow of Charlie Eric k I didn't necessarily appreciate that
29:02
Speaker 19: all but four, I believe, of the NFL teams had
29:05
Speaker 19: had a moment of silence to trust, which.
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Speaker 1: Is extraordinary stuff.
29:09
Speaker 19: I mean, you're totally right when you say that the
29:11
Speaker 19: NFL was about as woke as it gets. They literally
29:13
Speaker 19: had end racism in the end zone. I think they
29:15
Speaker 19: probably still do in most of it, and they still
29:17
Speaker 19: have end racism in the end zones. As a tribute
29:20
Speaker 19: to twenty twenty, the Black Lives matter ANTIFA stuff, but nonetheless,
29:25
Speaker 19: Charlie was such a larger than life figure, even at
29:27
Speaker 19: the tender age of thirty one years old, that they
29:31
Speaker 19: felt compelled to honor him. So, you know, I am
29:35
Speaker 19: personally not fully past the morning and grieving period.
29:38
Speaker 3: Rita.
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Speaker 19: Again, it's been very difficult for a lot of us.
29:41
Speaker 19: I was speaking at a conference out of Las Vegas
29:43
Speaker 19: this past Friday, and all of us out there were
29:45
Speaker 19: kind of memorializing Charlie and our speeches there. It's really
29:48
Speaker 19: hitting the American conservative community really really hard. But I
29:51
Speaker 19: didn't fully appreciate just how much he penetrated not just
29:55
Speaker 19: American conservatives, really kind of the broader American and frankly
29:58
Speaker 19: broader global culture.
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Speaker 3: Josh, you and Charlie were close.
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Speaker 4: How difficult has it been to see the unhinged ugliness
30:07
Speaker 4: of the left, the celebration of your friend's death, the
30:11
Speaker 4: rationalizations and the lies.
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Speaker 19: Yeah, reader, it's it's most visceral reminder of evil in
30:18
Speaker 19: our midst evil in this realm, at least since October seventh.
30:23
Speaker 19: This is this has been the personally saddest that I
30:25
Speaker 19: have been since October seventh. And it's also just the
30:28
Speaker 19: most visceral reminder that there was such profound, unmitigated evil.
30:33
Speaker 19: And you know, some of these specific details are I mean,
30:37
Speaker 19: I don't even have words for this. I mean demonic, satanic,
30:41
Speaker 19: I mean out of the pits of Hell, I mean
30:44
Speaker 19: us of a verbide you want to do? You know
30:46
Speaker 19: the University of Louisville and Kentucky that there was some
30:49
Speaker 19: caricature on a bulletin board saying debate this, and it
30:53
Speaker 19: was I guess a caricatured version of Charlie getting a
30:56
Speaker 19: bullet into the neck. There there was some other story
30:58
Speaker 19: that I saw of like a third or a fourth
31:01
Speaker 19: grade elementary school teacher showing the video of him getting
31:04
Speaker 19: shot to the students there. I mean, you know, this
31:07
Speaker 19: is someone who should not merely be fired from being
31:09
Speaker 19: an elementary school teacher. That person should be publicly flogged,
31:12
Speaker 19: like literally flogged with lashes in the town square and
31:16
Speaker 19: probably sent to a mental asylum there. But this is
31:19
Speaker 19: probably the most tragic part of all is that in
31:22
Speaker 19: a way this assassination.
31:24
Speaker 1: Was somewhat predictable.
31:26
Speaker 19: It really is shockingly similar to what happened to Donald
31:29
Speaker 19: Trump and Butler. Pennsylvania have a very similar situation there
31:31
Speaker 19: but left wing political violence has been a menace in
31:34
Speaker 19: this country for years and years and years, and going
31:37
Speaker 19: at least as far back as the twenty twelve Floyd
31:40
Speaker 19: Lee Corkinson attempted shooting in the Family Research Council of Washington.
31:43
Speaker 19: See the James Hodgkinson shooting of the congressional baseball team
31:47
Speaker 19: in suburban Virginia in twenty seventeen, and on and on
31:50
Speaker 19: and on we go. This is just the highest profile
31:52
Speaker 19: example there. But the percentage of Democrats who say, rita
31:56
Speaker 19: that they could see themselves justifying the assassination of Donald
31:59
Speaker 19: Trump or the politicalponents. In a recent poll, I saw
32:02
Speaker 19: the ones who said that they could they could foresee
32:03
Speaker 19: this world of justifying it was over fifty percent. I mean,
32:07
Speaker 19: I'm sorry not to put too fine a point on it.
32:10
Speaker 19: This is how republics die like This is literally how
32:13
Speaker 19: a self governing people loses the ability to govern itself.
32:17
Speaker 19: When we cease to have our debates with the pen
32:20
Speaker 19: and the keyboard at the ballot box there, and when
32:22
Speaker 19: we start having our debates through the sword and bullets
32:25
Speaker 19: and rifles there, that's it. That's game over there. The
32:28
Speaker 19: stakes are really, really, really high, And I don't think
32:31
Speaker 19: the left realizes what they're doing there. But we have
32:33
Speaker 19: to fight back with all we've got there because we're
32:35
Speaker 19: not going to let them destroy this country and destroy
32:36
Speaker 19: Western civilization by extension.
32:40
Speaker 4: Well, the left not only lied about Charlie, but they've
32:44
Speaker 4: lied about the suspect, the man arrested for his murder.
32:49
Speaker 4: They tried to paint this suspect as maga. They created
32:53
Speaker 4: a fake image of him in a Trump shirt.
32:56
Speaker 3: But Josh, this.
32:57
Speaker 4: Suspect is precisely what you'd expect, a hate field, radical,
33:03
Speaker 4: far left agitator who hated conservatives. What more can you
33:09
Speaker 4: tell me about this suspect and the man, the man
33:11
Speaker 4: who identifies as a woman and is reportedly transitioning, who
33:16
Speaker 4: lived with the suspect was according to authorities, and relationship
33:20
Speaker 4: with him and is now helping authorities.
33:23
Speaker 19: Yeah, it looks It looks an awful lot to me
33:26
Speaker 19: like Charlie Kirk was was murdered by transgender actors. I mean,
33:30
Speaker 19: and if you actually look at the at the moment
33:34
Speaker 19: that the assassin's bullet fled, it was likely deliberately timed.
33:37
Speaker 19: Charlie was in the middle of answering a question from
33:40
Speaker 19: an audience member there at the rally about transgender inspired
33:44
Speaker 19: mass shootings. That was literally the last question that Charlie
33:47
Speaker 19: kirk Hurd in his life. That's when the assassin sent
33:50
Speaker 19: this bullet.
33:50
Speaker 3: There.
33:51
Speaker 19: Now, this individual you know, whose name I would say
33:54
Speaker 19: this is my personal policy. He grew up in a
33:57
Speaker 19: conservative Mormon family in World, Utah. His parents are still
34:01
Speaker 19: redist Republicans this day. They went hunting. That's perhaps how
34:05
Speaker 19: he learned how to use a rifle with a scope.
34:08
Speaker 1: There.
34:08
Speaker 19: And this person was clearly profoundly radicalized, profoundly radicalized by
34:13
Speaker 19: the college campus, profoundly radicalized by going down the pits
34:16
Speaker 19: of hell on websites and exchanges like Reddit. And you know,
34:21
Speaker 19: there's something psychologically to be said for this. I can't
34:24
Speaker 19: help but wonder that if some of these folks who
34:27
Speaker 19: come from good, kind of god fearing conservative backgrounds and
34:32
Speaker 19: then kind of fall down the pits of hell on
34:34
Speaker 19: university campuses there, I kind of wonder if they have
34:36
Speaker 19: something of a chip on their shoulder where they feel
34:38
Speaker 19: that they kind of have to maybe kind of you know,
34:40
Speaker 19: do something radical to atone for their conservative family the
34:43
Speaker 19: way they're raised there. So I'm kind of coming to
34:45
Speaker 19: this conclusion on the spot. But I wonder if the
34:48
Speaker 19: most dangerous would be assassins and messuares in America. Are
34:52
Speaker 19: action people radicalized from red states, from conservative families there,
34:56
Speaker 19: and then they go really really off the deep end there.
34:58
Speaker 19: I'm not sure that's right, honestly, but it's kind of
35:00
Speaker 19: a thesis that I'm working on right now there. But
35:03
Speaker 19: more to the point, you know, the left is saying
35:05
Speaker 19: that this is like a neo Nazi, is a groper,
35:07
Speaker 19: you know, he's like a Nick Flentes type there. Now
35:11
Speaker 19: this guy is he's literally a transgender furry X Mormon.
35:15
Speaker 19: That is who this person is there. And it's just
35:19
Speaker 19: unfathomable that we've had another transgender inspired act of violence
35:25
Speaker 19: theory again, like like literally just like a week and
35:27
Speaker 19: a half tweaks after the Nunciations church shooting in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
35:32
Speaker 1: When will it stop? When will it stop? There?
35:34
Speaker 19: And I just asked yet again, I mean asked this
35:36
Speaker 19: question for a long time, when will America have a
35:38
Speaker 19: serious conversation about the mental disease that is transgenderism?
35:45
Speaker 4: Now, I want to ask you about Charlie's widow, Erica.
35:48
Speaker 4: She spoke in the last forty eight hours, showed enormous courage,
35:54
Speaker 4: and she was very clear that she was going to
35:59
Speaker 4: you the grief she feels, the anger she feels, to
36:02
Speaker 4: make sure Charlie's mission is fulfilled. You know, Erica, tell
36:07
Speaker 4: me a little bit about her and how you and
36:12
Speaker 4: others around her will help her achieve this.
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Speaker 19: Well, that speech was extraordinary, wasn't it. That was one
36:18
Speaker 19: of the most extraordinary acts of oration, rhetoric, and frankly
36:22
Speaker 19: just outright bravery, valor and bravery.
36:24
Speaker 1: That was an.
36:25
Speaker 19: Extraordinary speech that Erkirk delivered from the Turning Point USA
36:29
Speaker 19: headquarters Charlie Studio this this past Friday in the United States.
36:34
Speaker 19: I was personally just absolutely blown away. And the speech
36:36
Speaker 19: basically speaks for itself. I mean, I mean, I mean,
36:38
Speaker 19: you see someone who is extremely well spoken, who was
36:42
Speaker 19: in control of her of her emotions, even in the
36:45
Speaker 19: most trying of all situations, a horrific situation like this,
36:49
Speaker 19: someone who was eloquent, someone who was passionate there and
36:53
Speaker 19: really above all in that particular moment, someone who is really,
36:57
Speaker 19: really really set on continuing her hin's legacy and continuing
37:02
Speaker 19: his work and making sure that that legacy, in that
37:04
Speaker 19: work did not die with the Assassin's Bull of this
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Speaker 19: past Wednesday in Aura, Utah.
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Speaker 16: There.
37:09
Speaker 19: So look, we'll see who actually heads up Turning Point
37:12
Speaker 19: in USA. I don't know who that person will be.
37:14
Speaker 19: Maybe it'll be Erica Kirk, maybe maybe it will be
37:16
Speaker 19: someone else there. I know that you will definitely be
37:19
Speaker 19: involved very closely one way or the other, clearly and
37:22
Speaker 19: making sure that Charlie's legacy and all his work does
37:24
Speaker 19: not go to waste.
37:25
Speaker 1: And by the way, just just some quick.
37:26
Speaker 19: Numbers, you know, just in the first four or five
37:30
Speaker 19: days after Charlie's death, Turning Point in USA apparently received
37:33
Speaker 19: roughly thirty two thousand requests thirty two thousand requests from
37:37
Speaker 19: high schools and universities in America to start new chapters,
37:41
Speaker 19: which is way more they have currently total.
37:45
Speaker 1: So this thing is taken off.
37:46
Speaker 19: So when Erica Kirk said this past Friday that they
37:49
Speaker 19: have no idea what they've started, because they have lit
37:51
Speaker 19: a fire under an entire generation or more of American
37:54
Speaker 19: assert is we're actually literally already seeing some preliminary data
37:58
Speaker 19: that supports that proposition there and in these very very
38:01
Speaker 19: dark moments Rita that ultimately what gives me solace and
38:04
Speaker 19: some hope.
38:07
Speaker 3: She said it all.
38:09
Speaker 4: She said, they don't know what they've unleashed, and I
38:12
Speaker 4: have full confidence she's going to continue that incredible.
38:15
Speaker 3: Work now, Josh.
38:16
Speaker 4: Earlier today, there were massive lines around the Kennedy Center
38:20
Speaker 4: as DC locals lined up to pay tribute to Charlie.
38:24
Speaker 4: Caroline Leavitt, White House pro Secretary, was among those to
38:28
Speaker 4: speak about Charlie's impact.
38:31
Speaker 20: Charlie Kirk was a Maverick, an independent minded person who
38:34
Speaker 20: had the courage of his convictions. When so many influential
38:38
Speaker 20: voices in our society are brainwashing young people to abandon
38:42
Speaker 20: our feet, to stay single, not to have children, and
38:45
Speaker 20: to bash our country, Charlie Kirk offered us an alternative path.
38:50
Speaker 20: Charlie embraced our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and proclaimed
38:54
Speaker 20: the Gospel boldly and proudly.
39:00
Speaker 4: Charlie's faith was so important to him and today RFK
39:04
Speaker 4: Junior spoke about the impact Charlie had on a family member.
39:11
Speaker 11: My seventeen year old niece loved for a Europe to
39:15
Speaker 11: go to college, and while she was packing her mother, Amarella's,
39:20
Speaker 11: my daughter in Lot noticed that she had put a
39:24
Speaker 11: Bible in her suitcase and Amarellas was curious about him,
39:30
Speaker 11: and she asked her, and so he said to her,
39:34
Speaker 11: I want to live like Charlie Kirk.
39:42
Speaker 4: Oh, that says it all. Charlie's faith was integral to
39:46
Speaker 4: his work. They had plenty of non believers who supported him,
39:49
Speaker 4: but he really believed that the battle we are facing
39:53
Speaker 4: is of biblical proportions.
39:57
Speaker 1: Yes, he did. You know, Look I readA.
39:59
Speaker 19: America is still a disproportionately religious Christian country relatives to
40:04
Speaker 19: most Western countries, and especially Republican politics conservative movement. So
40:07
Speaker 19: because of that, they have a lot of people, whether
40:10
Speaker 19: they are elected Republicans or conservative commentators, talkers, writers who
40:15
Speaker 19: kind of talk the talk of Christianity. They like to
40:17
Speaker 19: kind of thump a Bible here or there, but they
40:19
Speaker 19: don't really actually believe it. They're just kind of saying
40:21
Speaker 19: it for optics.
40:21
Speaker 4: There.
40:22
Speaker 19: Charlie Kirk did not just talk the talk. He won
40:25
Speaker 19: a thousand percent walked the walk. He was someone who
40:28
Speaker 19: was a sincerely principled, devout Christian. There he believed in
40:33
Speaker 19: the Bible. And by the way, more to the point,
40:35
Speaker 19: I think one of the reasons that Charlie Nun became
40:36
Speaker 19: closer over the past you know, a couple of years,
40:39
Speaker 19: give or take. Is that as I became a more
40:41
Speaker 19: religious observant Jew, we found so much in common there.
40:44
Speaker 19: Because Charlie's Christianity is the Christianity of the of the
40:47
Speaker 19: American founding is the is the Christianity of George Washington,
40:50
Speaker 19: John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Americans founders.
40:53
Speaker 1: Which is that?
40:53
Speaker 19: Which to say, that is a Christianity that understood that
40:57
Speaker 19: its well spring is in the Hebrew Bible and the
40:59
Speaker 19: old Estaments. Charlie was a living, breathing example of this.
41:03
Speaker 19: He actually literally kept his version of the Sabbath. He
41:06
Speaker 19: actually turned his phone off over the twenty four to
41:08
Speaker 19: twenty five hours of the Jewish cheer from Friday, from
41:11
Speaker 19: Friday night to Saturday night. He actually was working on
41:13
Speaker 19: a book on the Sabbath. God will in that book
41:15
Speaker 19: will still come out. This is this December. So he
41:18
Speaker 19: really really really lived this in a very visceral way.
41:22
Speaker 19: You can kind of see it as well over the
41:24
Speaker 19: points that he emphasized over the course of his Turning
41:26
Speaker 19: Point USA career. So when Turning Point USA was founded
41:29
Speaker 19: years ago, it was founded initially as kind of a
41:32
Speaker 19: big government sucks, you know, you know, screw socialism, kind
41:35
Speaker 19: of platform, you know, kind of rain in the debt,
41:36
Speaker 19: a lot of economic issues there. I'm not saying that
41:38
Speaker 19: he stopped caring about those issues, but as he got older,
41:41
Speaker 19: as he as he married Erica, as he has he
41:43
Speaker 19: had children. You know, it's kind of it's kind of
41:45
Speaker 19: a very similar evolution I've seen in my own life.
41:47
Speaker 12: There.
41:47
Speaker 19: You start, you start kind of focusing on some other
41:49
Speaker 19: issues and his message again, he didn't ditch the economic stuff,
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Speaker 19: but he was increasingly focused on trying to talk to
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Speaker 19: young men, drafting say, here's how you can improve your lives.
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Speaker 19: That girl, ask her how to date, that girl, ask
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Speaker 19: her hand in marriage, go have children, go to church,
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Speaker 19: you know, go read scripture there. I mean, the message
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Speaker 19: really changed. He was really trying to speak to young
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Speaker 19: men and maybe above all a very vulnerable demographic in America.
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Speaker 19: He was really kind of the voice of that. And again,
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Speaker 19: we've lost just a completely irreplaceable void. I don't have
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Speaker 19: a single name to point you to say that person's
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Speaker 19: going to fill that void there. I don't know where
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Speaker 19: it's going to come from there, but he really did
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Speaker 19: it all, honestly.
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Speaker 3: Josh Hamma, thank you. So much.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: Still to come more on the life and legacy of
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Speaker 4: the man many saw as destined to be president.
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Speaker 3: Gabriella Power joins.
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Speaker 21: Me next, Welcome back.
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Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk's heartbroken wife, Erica has delivered a powerful message.
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Speaker 3: She had this to say.
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Speaker 4: To the killer and those who incited this murder, this assassination.
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Speaker 3: They don't know what they've unleashed. The evildoers.
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Speaker 16: Responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea what they
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Speaker 16: have done. They killed Charlie because he preached a message
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Speaker 16: of patriotism, faith and of God's merciful love. But they
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Speaker 16: should all know this. If you thought that my husband's
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Speaker 16: mission was powerful before, you have no idea. You have
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Speaker 16: no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country,
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Speaker 16: in this world. You have no idea. You have no
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Speaker 16: idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife.
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Speaker 3: The cries of this widow.
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Speaker 16: Will echo around the world like a battle cry.
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Speaker 4: Joining me now is the host of Power Hour, Gabriella Power.
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Speaker 4: Gab we finally know more about Charlie Kirk's alleged killer,
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Speaker 4: twenty two year old Tyler Robinson, who was turned in
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Speaker 4: by his own father. It's been revealed that before his arrest,
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Speaker 4: he went onto a private discord chat and joked that
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Speaker 4: he's a dopel ganger pulled the trigger. In messages obtained
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Speaker 4: by the Neil Post, he mocked the manhunt for the
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Speaker 4: government and taunted the FBI's investigation, and he also joked
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Speaker 4: about obtaining reward money. It's pretty clear gap from these
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Speaker 4: screenshots that there's not much remorse here.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, it's really chilling to read the comments that Tyler
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Speaker 18: Robinson made in the hours leading up to his arrest.
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Speaker 18: He mocked the FBI investigation. He made comments saying that
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Speaker 18: the shooter must be in California. Another person in that
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Speaker 18: group chat joked about getting a cut of the one
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Speaker 18: hundred thousand dollar FBI reward. There was also another comment
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Speaker 18: made by Taylor Robinson there saying that oh, he had
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Speaker 18: to get rid of the manifesto, appearing to joke about
45:14
Speaker 18: himself potentially being the shooter. Now we do know that
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Speaker 18: Taylor Robinson will be facing his first court appearance on Tuesday,
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Speaker 18: and Utah Governor Spencer Cox says that he's not cooperating
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Speaker 18: with law enforcement at the moment, but family and friends
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Speaker 18: are helping with the investigation.
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Speaker 4: Yes, and his lover appears to be helping investigators as well,
45:36
Speaker 4: and we're getting more details about his private life. According
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Speaker 4: to police, Robinson was living with a transgender lover who
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Speaker 4: was in the process of transitioning from a man to
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Speaker 4: a woman. Utah Governor Spencer Cox also told the Wall
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Speaker 4: Street Journal that investigators are of the view that the
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Speaker 4: alleged killer is deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology. But we
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Speaker 4: have heard a lot of misinformation. We have heard a
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Speaker 4: lot of lies from people who should know better, including
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Speaker 4: many in the media, about the alleged killer being supposedly
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Speaker 4: maga or from some right wing movement.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, so much misinformation disinformation online. It's horrible to see.
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Speaker 18: But I think this truth should I should say from
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Speaker 18: Utah Governor Spencer Cox that this alleged killer believes to
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Speaker 18: appear to be deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology. That should
46:35
Speaker 18: come as a surprise to no one. We have seen
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Speaker 18: the far left justify and celebrate murder, and it is
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Speaker 18: absolutely sick. Now it appears as though Tyler Robinson was
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Speaker 18: radicalized after university. We know that ammunition was engraved with
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Speaker 18: a reference to fascism. And again, hearing that piece of news,
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Speaker 18: you just think of every Democrat and every mainstream media
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Speaker 18: outlet that has labeled Donald Trump a fascist, and you know,
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Speaker 18: we are seeing so many parts of the far left
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Speaker 18: celebrate murder.
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Speaker 6: It makes me absolutely sick.
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Speaker 18: But as your reference to his personal life, we know
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Speaker 18: that he appears to now be dating or being a
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Speaker 18: romantic relationship with someone who was transitioning genders, appears to
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Speaker 18: be a big supporter of Joe Biden. And also Robinson
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Speaker 18: himself had a fixation on Furri's reader.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and again.
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Speaker 4: That's some interesting reading there, but we won't get into that.
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Speaker 3: I want to speak a little bit more about Charlie.
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Speaker 4: He was all about dialogue, about the importance of maintaining
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Speaker 4: civil debate with your ideological opponents. Who would talk to
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Speaker 4: anybody who was always about the issue, not attacking the person.
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Speaker 4: And he was happy to be the butt of jokes himself.
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Speaker 4: Look at his reaction to a South Park episode that
47:51
Speaker 4: featured someone very much like himself.
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Speaker 3: So let me ask you this, what is your definition
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Speaker 3: of a woman?
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Speaker 12: Yeah, putting down the mic in between the question that
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Speaker 12: is like put that is pure art south Park?
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Speaker 1: What is man, what what is the woman?
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Speaker 17: It's a very supple question.
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Speaker 3: Well a woman. He's a lady for and you know.
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Speaker 17: Casey, you see, you can't answer the question. But something
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Speaker 17: is male or it is female. Both sides of the
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Speaker 17: scripture agree to that, and that's just the truth. That's
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Speaker 17: oh gee.
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Speaker 12: I think the whole thing is just awesome and hilarious.
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Speaker 4: Unlike the angry Left, he wasn't afraid to laugh at himself,
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Speaker 4: even if the characterization was pretty harsh.
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Speaker 17: Did you call the girls soccer team a Marxist in doctrination?
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Speaker 1: Doctory? That is correct?
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Speaker 3: We actually beat the fust dont of nothing.
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Speaker 17: You know, you can fine about American oppression all you want,
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Speaker 17: but you're using an iPhone made by the free market
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Speaker 17: to complain about a system they gave it to you.
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Speaker 17: Girls have it way easy in America. And that's just
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Speaker 17: the truth.
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Speaker 12: The girl reading off the phone, by the way, with
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Speaker 12: like the angry, like live face, like blah blah blah,
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Speaker 12: I'm reading it's just perfect.
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Speaker 4: He was special, Gab, There's not any I can't think
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Speaker 4: of anyone else like him who was just such a
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Speaker 4: happy warrior, who would just maintain his calm in the
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Speaker 4: face of all sorts of ugliness all.
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Speaker 18: The time, and we saw that. I love the clip
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Speaker 18: you just played, reader, I mean, it just really speaks
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Speaker 18: to his character and his brilliant personality. He was happy
49:23
Speaker 18: to laugh at himself, and he was such a great
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Speaker 18: example to young people, especially to young men. I mean,
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Speaker 18: he was so clear on his values. He really spoke
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Speaker 18: up for being principled, for fighting for what you believe
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Speaker 18: in with words, not with violence. And that clip of
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Speaker 18: him just laughing there at himself on South Park, I
49:41
Speaker 18: mean it says so much about him. He was such
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Speaker 18: a brilliant man and he's going to be so so missed.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's a good way to remember him. Gabriella Pawe,
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Speaker 4: thank you so much for your time, and that's all
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Speaker 4: the time we have. Newsnight is up next