Latest / Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood / 203. Coco Chanel - The Fascist Fashionista - From the Vault
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- 0:12Speaker 1: Hello, delicious friends, and welcome to Who Did What Now?
- 0:16Speaker 1: The history podcast that is not your history class with me,
- 0:20Speaker 1: your host Katie Charlewood, history harlot and reader of books,
- 0:25Speaker 1: Ray Ducks. Now, speaking of books, I have never been
- 0:29Speaker 1: so justified in my love of physical media as I
- 0:32Speaker 1: have as of late. You've got video games that people
- 0:36Speaker 1: have purchased like removed from the system. You have cloud
- 0:41Speaker 1: storage that you were told was going to be free
- 0:43Speaker 1: is now being taken, and fucking AI companies are destroying
- 0:49Speaker 1: rare and antiq invintage books to feed their machines to
- 0:53Speaker 1: produce aislop. And as anyone who has watched My socials, no,
- 0:59Speaker 1: like you'll see in my bedroom, I have my color
- 1:02Speaker 1: coded bookcase, which is just one of the cases I have. Yeah,
- 1:08Speaker 1: there's more, there's more, And I have a book trolley,
- 1:11Speaker 1: which should surprise absolutely no one at that downstairs because
- 1:15Speaker 1: I'm always there's just piles of books in my house
- 1:17Speaker 1: as well, just for when I'm doing research. And I
- 1:21Speaker 1: was looking up a case because I was going to
- 1:23Speaker 1: do like a historical crime thing, and I was looking
- 1:25Speaker 1: at it online, and so I was looking up these
- 1:28Speaker 1: digital copies and because I had thought about it, before
- 1:32Speaker 1: and previously, like five six years ago, I still had
- 1:35Speaker 1: my handwritten notes of like important details because sometimes if
- 1:39Speaker 1: something goes missing and you haven't saved it, you kind
- 1:43Speaker 1: of have to like type in all the information to
- 1:47Speaker 1: try and find it. And the interesting thing was is
- 1:50Speaker 1: that the nationality of the individuals who were, you know,
- 1:57Speaker 1: blamed for this crime very chain changed from then to now,
- 2:02Speaker 1: and I think it was specifically done in a detrimental aspect.
- 2:09Speaker 1: And so for me, I was like, oh, thank Christ,
- 2:12Speaker 1: I had my original notes because this has changed, and
- 2:14Speaker 1: it just shows you how easy it is to sort
- 2:18Speaker 1: of alter and edit and perhaps even manipulate the data.
- 2:21Speaker 1: And so I was like, oh goodness, thank god I
- 2:23Speaker 1: have my physical copies of books, which is why I
- 2:25Speaker 1: like the old books. Now it's a redux this week
- 2:30Speaker 1: for everybody, because I say this week there will be more.
- 2:35Speaker 1: You'll be getting extra stuff this month, specifically because I'm
- 2:39Speaker 1: covering so many things and I just haven't been able
- 2:44Speaker 1: to get everything done in time. It's just been with
- 2:48Speaker 1: the bank holiday and everything that's been happening over here.
- 2:50Speaker 1: I just haven't had time to get everything together because
- 2:55Speaker 1: this month, the month of August, because everyone is always
- 2:58Speaker 1: asking me questions about like World War two and the
- 3:01Speaker 1: Holocaust and stuff like that. I was like, well, you
- 3:02Speaker 1: know what, I will spend this month answering them, because
- 3:07Speaker 1: that's it seems to be a thing that I've just
- 3:09Speaker 1: started to do, is I will take this one month
- 3:11Speaker 1: and I will answer these damn questions. And there was
- 3:14Speaker 1: over four and a half thousand questions. Luckily, some of
- 3:18Speaker 1: those questions were the same one, just phrased differently, and
- 3:22Speaker 1: there were a few just like statements and dog whistles
- 3:24Speaker 1: and things like that. But it gave me a really
- 3:28Speaker 1: good place in which to work from. So like the
- 3:31Speaker 1: first I think week and a half are basically covering
- 3:33Speaker 1: sort of the Holocaust aspect of it, and then we're
- 3:36Speaker 1: branching into like different parts of World War two, and
- 3:40Speaker 1: so it's all going to be covered within that. So
- 3:45Speaker 1: because of that, I thought, well, you know what, let
- 3:47Speaker 1: me share this one of my favorite episodes to write, actually,
- 3:52Speaker 1: because I've been obsessed with sharing this because we have
- 3:58Speaker 1: this idea and this image of of Coco Chanel, of
- 4:02Speaker 1: this sort of glamorous she invented, you know, the little
- 4:06Speaker 1: black dress. She was a purefumier. She was just like
- 4:12Speaker 1: like it's interesting, like she's cool up until a point
- 4:16Speaker 1: and then and then she's very not cool. Because I
- 4:19Speaker 1: hate to break it to you everybody, but Cooko Chanel
- 4:23Speaker 1: was a Nazi bitch, and up until that point, you're
- 4:26Speaker 1: like you're doing okay in life, and then Nazi, which
- 4:31Speaker 1: is for me, I feel a turning point and something
- 4:35Speaker 1: I don't really appreciate. But I thought, you know what,
- 4:39Speaker 1: seeing as many of you might not have heard this
- 4:41Speaker 1: one before, I'm going to reshare Coco Chanel the collaborator,
- 4:49Speaker 1: or as I like to call her, the fascist fashionist stuff,
- 4:52Speaker 1: which I thought was really good alliteration. But without further ado,
- 4:57Speaker 1: I will let you listen to this because I've been
- 4:59Speaker 1: chatting for a while now. I'm sorry, but I know
- 5:04Speaker 1: what you're thinking. You're thinking, Katie, please quit your jibber
- 5:08Speaker 1: jabber in fact me, in fact you I will. But
- 5:13Speaker 1: first we've got to get our source on. Oh and also,
- 5:16Speaker 1: the next episode is actually about a serial killer in
- 5:19Speaker 1: Nazi Germany, so and it's coming soon. Like by the
- 5:23Speaker 1: time you have this, you will almost have the next one. Okay, wonderful,
- 5:28Speaker 1: thank you, but yes, let's get our source on. Our
- 5:33Speaker 1: sources are Chanell into her world. Friends, Fashion and Fame
- 5:39Speaker 1: by Edmond Charles Roux. Coco Chanel, An Intimate Life by
- 5:45Speaker 1: Lisa Chenney, Sleeping with the Enemy couco Chanell. Nazi Agent
- 5:52Speaker 1: by hal Vaughan. Mademoiselle Chanelle by C. W. Gordner, coco Chanell,
- 6:04Speaker 1: The Legend and the Life by Justine Picadi. Mademoiselle coco
- 6:10Speaker 1: Chanel and the Pulse of History by Rhonda K. Garlic.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Coco Chanell From a Fashion Icon to Nazi Agent by
- 6:19Speaker 1: Jeffrey Jones and Emily Granjean. And of course we have
- 6:24Speaker 1: our favorites Biography dot com and History dot Com. Are
- 6:30Speaker 1: you sitting comfortably good? Then let's begin. As some of
- 6:35Speaker 1: you know, I have a special special place in my
- 6:39Speaker 1: heart for harlots, whores, hussies and strumpets. And the thing
- 6:46Speaker 1: is about the women who have these labels. Generally, the
- 6:50Speaker 1: reason they make the choices they make, it's because they
- 6:55Speaker 1: have to, because there are no other options, because they
- 6:58Speaker 1: do what is necessary, and quite a lot of the time,
- 7:03Speaker 1: like myself, you'll find yourself rooting for these badass women
- 7:08Speaker 1: as you fucking should. And you're probably gonna feel that
- 7:13Speaker 1: way about Coco Chanel up until the midpoint of this tale,
- 7:19Speaker 1: at which point you're going to get very angry. I mean,
- 7:24Speaker 1: if you have a soul but you are not going
- 7:28Speaker 1: to be on her side, you will be. You'll be
- 7:30Speaker 1: backing her up until a certain point, and then this
- 7:34Speaker 1: shit's gonna hit the fan, and choices are made, not
- 7:40Speaker 1: necessarily the best ones, you know, for humanity. But we're
- 7:45Speaker 1: gonna get there. But I guess we should start from
- 7:48Speaker 1: the beginning, and so we shall. But one more thing
- 7:53Speaker 1: before we do. I would like to formally apologize to
- 7:56Speaker 1: any French or French speaking people who have to hear
- 8:00Speaker 1: me pronounce words with this accent, because I'm probably gonna
- 8:04Speaker 1: fuck up a bunch of them, Like absolutely, But let's
- 8:09Speaker 1: just get into it. Gabrielle Bonur Chanelle was born on
- 8:13Speaker 1: the nineteenth of August eighteen eighty three. We have a birthday, everybody,
- 8:20Speaker 1: We have a location. We have a date, not just
- 8:24Speaker 1: a year, an actual date. I mean it is the
- 8:27Speaker 1: eighteen eighties, so you know whatever, but still look at
- 8:32Speaker 1: this progress. Come on, okay. So Chanelle is born to
- 8:40Speaker 1: Albert Chanelle and Eugenie Geene de vos So. She's basically
- 8:47Speaker 1: known as Gene for most of her life, she's never
- 8:50Speaker 1: really known as Eugenie or anything else. So she is
- 8:54Speaker 1: born in a poor house in Saumur. It's basically this
- 9:03Speaker 1: poor house run by nuns. None nuns, nuns, it's always
- 9:10Speaker 1: those bloody nuns. So she is born in this poor
- 9:15Speaker 1: house to Albert and Jean. Albert is a traveling salesman,
- 9:22Speaker 1: so he does door to door sales effectively, he is
- 9:25Speaker 1: selling work clothes and underwear like undergarments, that is his thing,
- 9:33Speaker 1: and so he would travel around. He's very nomadic who
- 9:36Speaker 1: even though he is, you know, going around the place,
- 9:40Speaker 1: still manages to get Jean pregnant quite a lot. See
- 9:45Speaker 1: Gabrielle here. She is the second child born to the
- 9:49Speaker 1: couple this year, like you know, two in one year.
- 9:55Speaker 1: That's Irish twins. You might be in France, but those
- 9:58Speaker 1: are Irish twins. So her sister Julie is her older sister,
- 10:03Speaker 1: and a year later, Albert and Jean get married. So yeah,
- 10:10Speaker 1: she's born out of wedlock. So in this day and age,
- 10:16Speaker 1: Gabrielle donu Chanel was officially a bastard baby born in
- 10:23Speaker 1: a poor house. And after she is born, her mother
- 10:27Speaker 1: Jean is so ill that she cannot go and sign
- 10:31Speaker 1: the birth register, and Albert he's off Gallivantan selling undergarments
- 10:37Speaker 1: of no particular description. I could not find out exactly
- 10:42Speaker 1: what he sold, so I can only assume it's hosiery
- 10:46Speaker 1: and corsets or maybe whatever, old fashioned bloomers, maybe bloomers.
- 10:52Speaker 1: It could be bloomers. But he's not around. And so
- 10:57Speaker 1: her name, her surname, actually gets registered incorrect, so instead
- 11:02Speaker 1: of being Chanel, it's Chasnel. And it's because of this
- 11:08Speaker 1: that we actually found out about her original upbringing. So
- 11:13Speaker 1: when Chanelle makes it big, she bullshit, so she says
- 11:17Speaker 1: she's born ten years later than she is, and then
- 11:20Speaker 1: she basically says that she had a glamorous and wonderful upbringing.
- 11:25Speaker 1: So yeah, in eighteen eighty four, Jeanne and Albert they
- 11:30Speaker 1: get married. Effectively, her family banded together. United was the
- 11:37Speaker 1: term newsed most often. They got together to pay for Albert. Now,
- 11:44Speaker 1: I don't know if this meant there was some kind
- 11:46Speaker 1: of dowry involved, or whether they just offered general financial support,
- 11:52Speaker 1: but I suppose they just didn't want Jeanne to be
- 11:55Speaker 1: an unmarried mother of two children. And so yes, here
- 12:02Speaker 1: we go. They get married. The couple then go on
- 12:06Speaker 1: to have six children, well, four more children, So you
- 12:10Speaker 1: have Juliet, Gabrielle and Franz Intoinnit, Lucien and Augustine and
- 12:17Speaker 1: Augustine or Augustin one of those he only lives till
- 12:22Speaker 1: six or seven months. He doesn't make it past infancy.
- 12:26Speaker 1: So this family all together live in this one room lodging.
- 12:33Speaker 1: So they're lodging in one room they're renting, right, they
- 12:36Speaker 1: don't even own a one roomed building. They are renting
- 12:42Speaker 1: one room in a building. And they're all crammed together
- 12:45Speaker 1: in this little town preve Lagallerte. I have probably mispronounced.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Sorry French people. I'm trying my best, and they are
- 12:57Speaker 1: not doing well financially. Clearly they are well how do
- 13:02Speaker 1: I put this dirt poor broke as shit right, So, yes,
- 13:08Speaker 1: things are not going well, and they're about to get
- 13:11Speaker 1: fucking worse because when she turns eleven years old, her mother, Jean,
- 13:18Speaker 1: she dies, and her dad just cannot support the full
- 13:23Speaker 1: family on his own, or he just can't handle it.
- 13:27Speaker 1: Not surprised by any stretch of the imagination. Albert not surprised,
- 13:32Speaker 1: So he sends his boys away to become farm hands,
- 13:36Speaker 1: so they're farm laborers. He's like, that's it, You've got jobs.
- 13:40Speaker 1: So they must be like much much younger, because you've
- 13:45Speaker 1: got like Gabrielle, she's eleven, she's the second oldest, and
- 13:51Speaker 1: depending on the time of year, you know, Julie could
- 13:57Speaker 1: also be eleven, and then the rest of the kids,
- 14:00Speaker 1: they're gonna be just decreasing from there. So these are
- 14:04Speaker 1: young children and they're being sent away to be farm
- 14:09Speaker 1: hands like that is not even remotely an easy task,
- 14:15Speaker 1: but off they go. The girls, however, they were sent
- 14:19Speaker 1: away to the incredibly strict convent at Obbozone, which was
- 14:24Speaker 1: effectively it was an orphanage run by some of the
- 14:27Speaker 1: scariest people in the world. You guessed it. The fucking
- 14:31Speaker 1: nuns are at it again. So the Congregation of the
- 14:35Speaker 1: Sacred Heart of Mary, and the whole point of this
- 14:38Speaker 1: orphanage is to take care of abandoned and orphaned Catholic girls,
- 14:45Speaker 1: or at least people they can then turn Catholic. I mean,
- 14:47Speaker 1: it's France, basically everyone's Catholic, and surprise, surprise, it's fucking
- 14:53Speaker 1: horrific there. It is severe and stark and it is
- 14:58Speaker 1: absolutely awful, but Fortunately this was where Chanelle learned to sew. Unfortunately,
- 15:09Speaker 1: at the age of eighteen, like many many children in
- 15:12Speaker 1: the system, Chanell ages out and she gets well, she
- 15:18Speaker 1: has to leave, So Julie would have already been sent out,
- 15:22Speaker 1: probably earlier in the year, but I'm not actually sure
- 15:26Speaker 1: where Julie went to. AnyWho, Chanell moves to a boarding
- 15:31Speaker 1: house for Catholic girls in Mulan. So there you have it,
- 15:37Speaker 1: abandoned by her father, sent off to an orphanage, aged
- 15:41Speaker 1: out of the orphanage, and having to live in a
- 15:43Speaker 1: Catholic boarding house. Well, she gets a job as a seamstress,
- 15:49Speaker 1: so that is her day job. But Chanelle she wants
- 15:53Speaker 1: more more from this, so she moonlights at a cabaret.
- 15:59Speaker 1: Something that she really did have going for her was
- 16:01Speaker 1: her liks. So she was young and she was attractive,
- 16:06Speaker 1: and she manages to get a week gig in La Rotonde,
- 16:11Speaker 1: which is a pavilion in Molan. So she's singing at
- 16:15Speaker 1: this cave concert and this week cabaret, and she would
- 16:20Speaker 1: sing in between the main acts. So she was like
- 16:24Speaker 1: a wave filler, you know nowadays you'd have like a
- 16:27Speaker 1: comic or something. They probably did have a comic actually
- 16:29Speaker 1: and other such fun things. But she would come out
- 16:33Speaker 1: and sing in between the main acts, so she wasn't
- 16:37Speaker 1: paid per se by the cabaret. She would get paid
- 16:41Speaker 1: in tips. So whenever she would perform in between the
- 16:44Speaker 1: big acts like a wee dish, would be going a
- 16:46Speaker 1: round like a collection plate and people would put money
- 16:51Speaker 1: in for her. So this particular cabaret was oft frequented
- 16:58Speaker 1: by cavalry officers, so these young military men would go
- 17:03Speaker 1: in and watch her perform and listen to her sing
- 17:07Speaker 1: and perhaps even dere have a conversation with her between performances.
- 17:15Speaker 1: So yeah, she went from one collection played to another,
- 17:18Speaker 1: one way or another. Really, So it is here where
- 17:24Speaker 1: Chanelle gets her nickname. She tries to say it's because
- 17:28Speaker 1: she sang a song Coco co cop but no, no,
- 17:32Speaker 1: it actually comes from the word cocotte, which means kept
- 17:36Speaker 1: women in another phrase for that could also be lady of
- 17:41Speaker 1: the night. Basically, she survived by the funding of men.
- 17:50Speaker 1: Basically the idea is that Coco Chanell was a sugar baby,
- 17:54Speaker 1: and frankly cannot really blame her at this point. You
- 17:58Speaker 1: know what, it's probably I think still the Victorian era.
- 18:02Speaker 1: You do you, babe, you know what I mean. And
- 18:06Speaker 1: she was very very popular by all accounts with the
- 18:11Speaker 1: military men that visited Laodon, very popular. Indeed, all I'm saying,
- 18:21Speaker 1: just putting it out there, I think that Mademoiselle Chanelle
- 18:26Speaker 1: clearly has a type. So when she's twenty three, she
- 18:31Speaker 1: moves to VC for the summer season. V She, if
- 18:35Speaker 1: you don't know, is not just a skincare brand. I
- 18:38Speaker 1: think it does make up too. I'm fairly certain I
- 18:40Speaker 1: have V She Foundation, But even their lightest shade that
- 18:45Speaker 1: they had available doesn't match my skin tone because I'm
- 18:49Speaker 1: so incredibly pale, like I'm naturally a pale shade of blue.
- 18:52Speaker 1: It takes me like a week of sunbathing to become white.
- 18:56Speaker 1: So V She is this spa resort and had everything.
- 19:02Speaker 1: It had concert halls and cafes and theaters and cabarets
- 19:06Speaker 1: and everything that went with it. And Chanelle she has
- 19:10Speaker 1: stars in her eyes. She is ready for this. And
- 19:15Speaker 1: as we said before, Chanelle is young and pretty. But
- 19:21Speaker 1: her voice was I'm gonna go with mediocre, like it's
- 19:29Speaker 1: less than great, you know, good but not quite. They're
- 19:35Speaker 1: not the standard of the VC spa resort and so
- 19:40Speaker 1: she gets auditioned after audition because you know, she's gorgeous,
- 19:45Speaker 1: she's attractive, she's young, but she just doesn't have, you know,
- 19:51Speaker 1: the talent to be there, you know. So after you know,
- 19:57Speaker 1: failing audition, after audition, she it's a job as a
- 20:01Speaker 1: water girl. So the vch water it has like minerals
- 20:05Speaker 1: in it, and it's supposed to be like regenerative and amazing.
- 20:08Speaker 1: It has curative mineral properties. Mmm. But anyway, she gets
- 20:15Speaker 1: a job as a water girl at the Grand Criel
- 20:20Speaker 1: and when the VC summer season is over, she returns
- 20:23Speaker 1: back to Mulon and Latonde and it's at this point
- 20:29Speaker 1: it becomes crystal clear to her that she is not
- 20:34Speaker 1: in fact destined for the stage. So she needs to
- 20:38Speaker 1: figure out a new game plan. She needs a man
- 20:42Speaker 1: like She's a student enough to know that in this
- 20:44Speaker 1: world she needs that in this we don't judge. At
- 20:49Speaker 1: this point. It's nineteen oh six and she's a woman
- 20:52Speaker 1: who grew up in abject poverty. This woman is in
- 20:56Speaker 1: the turn of the century, broke as shit fucked her
- 21:00Speaker 1: round from power to post, abandoned, and she needs to survive.
- 21:07Speaker 1: So she goes fuck this for a game of soldials.
- 21:10Speaker 1: She needs a man, a rich man preferably, because here's
- 21:14Speaker 1: the thing. If you have ever been dark poor in
- 21:18Speaker 1: your life, if you have ever lived in any moment
- 21:21Speaker 1: of poverty, that will stick with you and you will
- 21:24Speaker 1: not want to go back there again. Like that is
- 21:28Speaker 1: right in the back of your brain. There's a panic
- 21:30Speaker 1: button there. So you know, yes, at this point we're
- 21:36Speaker 1: still on Channel's side. Good for her. You do what
- 21:39Speaker 1: you need to do, honey. So she meets this ex
- 21:43Speaker 1: cavalry officer and what do you know, textile air Etian Balson,
- 21:50Speaker 1: and she becomes his mistress. Again, good for her. You
- 21:57Speaker 1: get with that rich man and you take his money.
- 21:59Speaker 1: So Ochanell gets with Barson and they move into his
- 22:04Speaker 1: chateau Royal U. I have pronounced it incorrectly, And so
- 22:11Speaker 1: she moves in Mahattan, thus usurping his courtisan Emilien Derincion.
- 22:18Speaker 1: She gets kicked to the curb, as is the way,
- 22:21Speaker 1: you know, It's just how thing goes. But she manages
- 22:24Speaker 1: to find something else for herself. So Coco Chanel is
- 22:30Speaker 1: the mistress the courtisan to Textile air Etienne Barson, and
- 22:36Speaker 1: they live at his chateau for three years and they
- 22:40Speaker 1: live it up. Let me tell you, there is a
- 22:43Speaker 1: champagne lifestyle. There's diamonds and pearls and fashion. It is
- 22:49Speaker 1: self indulgent. There's decadence, there is parties, there is satisfaction.
- 22:56Speaker 1: Like remember how Anthony and Clear had this big, indulgent
- 23:02Speaker 1: soiree lifestyle. These two do. They are living it up.
- 23:08Speaker 1: Balsan is not faithful. Are we surprised? Absolutely fucking not.
- 23:14Speaker 1: This is a man and also a man from the past,
- 23:17Speaker 1: a rich man from the past. There's no stopping them. Really,
- 23:22Speaker 1: So after those three years, she begins an affair with
- 23:28Speaker 1: his buddy. Now again, this is nineteen o eight. She's
- 23:33Speaker 1: a woman, and you know she allegedly replaced a courtisan,
- 23:40Speaker 1: meaning that she could very well easily be replaced. That's
- 23:44Speaker 1: just how things go. I mean, clearly there was no
- 23:47Speaker 1: bro code going on here. But she starts seeing this
- 23:50Speaker 1: other fella. I mean, he's not faithful. Why should she be.
- 23:54Speaker 1: This girl has no time for your double standards, as
- 23:57Speaker 1: she should. So she starts this affair with Captain Arthur
- 24:02Speaker 1: Edward Capel, who was an English aristocrat. And so these
- 24:07Speaker 1: two men start vying for her affections, right and I
- 24:12Speaker 1: don't know what it is about Chanelle. Was she charming?
- 24:15Speaker 1: Did she have an enchanting vagina? How's to say? All
- 24:19Speaker 1: I know is these two guys start a bidding war.
- 24:23Speaker 1: Like she is even quoted as saying, time for my
- 24:26Speaker 1: terrible French impression. Here we go, do gentle men were
- 24:30Speaker 1: outbidding for my little buddy. I mean, that's a weird
- 24:34Speaker 1: way to put it, but yeah, so there is a
- 24:37Speaker 1: bidding war happening for Chanelle's affections. And Chanelle during this time,
- 24:44Speaker 1: she has become like a qualified milliner. So she makes hats,
- 24:49Speaker 1: and she starts making hats and designing hats, and she
- 24:52Speaker 1: opens up this little boutique on the Lotule campbo in
- 24:55Speaker 1: Paris called Chanelle Mude and it only sells hats, just
- 25:01Speaker 1: a hat shop. And about two years later, like this
- 25:05Speaker 1: famous actress Gabrielle Dozierte, she wears her hat to this
- 25:08Speaker 1: play in all of her performances, and next thing you know,
- 25:12Speaker 1: sales are booming, skyrocketing. Everybody wants a Chanel hat. She becomes,
- 25:19Speaker 1: you know, the designer of the moment. So everything is
- 25:23Speaker 1: coming up Millhouse. And the following year she opens up
- 25:28Speaker 1: another boutique, and this is financed by Captain Arthur Capel,
- 25:35Speaker 1: and it's in Doville, and you know she's expanding, she's
- 25:41Speaker 1: moving out there and she starts designing these casual clothes,
- 25:47Speaker 1: leisure wear in sport. Well here's the thing. Her casual
- 25:52Speaker 1: and maybe your casual or my casual are very different
- 25:57Speaker 1: types of casual. Like this is rich people casual, not
- 26:01Speaker 1: you know, going to the shops in my lounge wear casual. No,
- 26:05Speaker 1: this is this is I shall wear my casual tea
- 26:10Speaker 1: dress casual. You know what I mean? Says me, who's
- 26:14Speaker 1: currently recording in a Powerpuff Girls snuggie. So in this
- 26:18Speaker 1: boutique she is selling hats, obviously, but she's also got
- 26:23Speaker 1: jumpers or sweaters to my American followers, sweaters, and she
- 26:29Speaker 1: does this thing called the sailor blouse, which is known
- 26:31Speaker 1: as La Marigner. Business is going well, but then there's
- 26:35Speaker 1: a problem. World War One breaks out nineteen fourteen, and
- 26:40Speaker 1: there is a lack of fabric pret Janelle, being the
- 26:44Speaker 1: engine out of a little bitch that she is, she
- 26:48Speaker 1: decides to use try cut and jersey. So these fabrics
- 26:54Speaker 1: were generally used for men's underwear. They were affordable, basically cheap,
- 26:59Speaker 1: and she can get access to them because they're not
- 27:02Speaker 1: used for military uniforms or anything necessary like that. So
- 27:08Speaker 1: this really plays into her and she does this really
- 27:11Speaker 1: fucking smart move where she hires her auntie and her sister.
- 27:17Speaker 1: You're thinking, that's good, She's supporting family. So her paternal
- 27:22Speaker 1: aunt is basically very similar in age to like her
- 27:26Speaker 1: and her sisters. So Adrienne, her auntie and her sister Antoinette,
- 27:33Speaker 1: she gets them to wear her designs and to walk
- 27:35Speaker 1: around the town of Duville. It's Indieville, Chanelle and Deville.
- 27:43Speaker 1: So they would saunter through the town of Deville wearing
- 27:47Speaker 1: the lovely garments designed by Chanelle and basically show them
- 27:52Speaker 1: off to everybody living there, because I mean, it's the
- 27:55Speaker 1: best form of advertisement at the time, because ooh, where
- 27:58Speaker 1: did you get that lovely dress? Oh? Vum Chanel. But
- 28:03Speaker 1: a lot of the people that were coming into de Ville,
- 28:07Speaker 1: they were fleeing Paris, So the trendy Parisians they wanted
- 28:12Speaker 1: nice clothes and where were they gonna go? Well, Voila
- 28:18Speaker 1: and Chanel. Her business just keeps growing. So she opens
- 28:22Speaker 1: up this new business and bear its on the good desk,
- 28:28Speaker 1: and it's not really a storefront per se. Well it's
- 28:31Speaker 1: not a store front at all because they don't put
- 28:34Speaker 1: it in a store front. They put it in a
- 28:35Speaker 1: fucking villa opposite the casino, which I mean, you can't
- 28:41Speaker 1: deny that's a really good move. I mean that's just smart.
- 28:44Speaker 1: So the place is full of these mainly rich Spaniards
- 28:50Speaker 1: and you have people that are fleeing one war or
- 28:52Speaker 1: the other and they just need or they want because
- 28:56Speaker 1: they're rich people, they want nice things, right, they do.
- 29:00Speaker 1: They live in luxury. They just can't help themselves, right,
- 29:03Speaker 1: it's just the way they are, so the wealthy, they
- 29:07Speaker 1: still want to be stylish, but this is wartime, so
- 29:10Speaker 1: clothes also have to be practical, so like the jersey
- 29:13Speaker 1: fabric and all that stuff. It just fucking makes sense
- 29:17Speaker 1: because a lot of the trendy Parisians they're working in
- 29:21Speaker 1: the hospital because the men are away at war and
- 29:23Speaker 1: the women are doing their part. That's just you know
- 29:25Speaker 1: how it was. And this beer it's locale. It is
- 29:30Speaker 1: so absolutely profitable. It is raking in the cash, like
- 29:36Speaker 1: she was able to pay back car pels original investment, right,
- 29:42Speaker 1: I mean, she doesn't want to be beholden to no man.
- 29:45Speaker 1: I can appreciate that. I can understand that. So she
- 29:49Speaker 1: pays him back his original investment. But she still, you know,
- 29:53Speaker 1: stays his lover, like she was hoping that they would
- 29:56Speaker 1: get married, but he was not about to marry some
- 30:00Speaker 1: courtisan like it wasn't gonna happen. It just wasn't. And
- 30:05Speaker 1: at some point around about the beer it's thing going great,
- 30:10Speaker 1: she meets Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovitch of Russia. They too
- 30:15Speaker 1: begin a love affair. And you can understand this because
- 30:19Speaker 1: well she knows this do ain't gonna marry her. She's
- 30:23Speaker 1: looking for her next, you know security. And the thing
- 30:27Speaker 1: about carpl or Carpel as I keep calling him, eh,
- 30:30Speaker 1: is that they are still stooping, you know, even when
- 30:36Speaker 1: he marries Lady Diana Wyndham in nineteen eighteen, like they're
- 30:40Speaker 1: continuing this affair. I'm not entirely sure if he got
- 30:43Speaker 1: married before or after the end of the war, but
- 30:47Speaker 1: he got married anyway. Now nineteen nineteen comes along, war
- 30:52Speaker 1: is over and Chanell registers as a kuteriier and she
- 30:57Speaker 1: sets up her Mason deu couteur lui. But it's not
- 31:05Speaker 1: all funny games, because that very year when she's set
- 31:10Speaker 1: up as a Catillia, Arthur Carpole is involved in a
- 31:15Speaker 1: car accident and he dies, and she is very upset
- 31:20Speaker 1: about the whole thing, Like she even says that her heart,
- 31:25Speaker 1: a part of it died that day, Like she very
- 31:28Speaker 1: much grieved the loss of him. But you know what
- 31:31Speaker 1: they say, nothing gets you over the last one like
- 31:34Speaker 1: the next one. So nineteen twenty comes along and she
- 31:38Speaker 1: meets the Russian composer, egress To Revenensky. So the Stravinsky
- 31:42Speaker 1: family they have fled, you know, Soviet Russia. There's been
- 31:46Speaker 1: a revolution. They're not happy about it. They are getting
- 31:48Speaker 1: the hell at a dodge. Now Stravinsky he is the
- 31:53Speaker 1: composer for the bally rus So, the Russian Ballet, and
- 31:59Speaker 1: so they fled, and she put the family up in
- 32:02Speaker 1: her house for seven months I think, in total, which
- 32:08Speaker 1: you know, fair play, call a spade a spad. Good
- 32:11Speaker 1: on you, Chanel. And it's here where negotiations start happening.
- 32:16Speaker 1: She ends up donating three hundred thousand francs to the
- 32:20Speaker 1: Russian Ballet, and so it starts performing in France, and
- 32:25Speaker 1: things are going well for Chanel She's got her couture house.
- 32:29Speaker 1: She is designing the costumes for the Russian ballet Oh kelsyprise,
- 32:35Speaker 1: wonder how she got that gig. And she is touring
- 32:39Speaker 1: with Stravinsky. She's also shagging him unbeknownst to his wife.
- 32:45Speaker 1: So hmmm. Now, like I said, up until this point,
- 32:52Speaker 1: you we could would, and I was rooting for Mademoiselle
- 32:57Speaker 1: Gabrielle Gogo Chanel. And this is the turning point where
- 33:06Speaker 1: the angle shifts. I mean, how to put this in
- 33:10Speaker 1: the nicest way possible. Frankly, Coco Chanell is tilting pretty sharply,
- 33:17Speaker 1: bitch word and it only gets worse from here. But anyway,
- 33:23Speaker 1: nineteen twenty two, at the long Champraces, she meets Pierre Wordtimer.
- 33:28Speaker 1: One thing leads to another and the Vertimer Wordtimer Verdtimer.
- 33:33Speaker 1: The brothers. They become massive investors in Perform Chanel. They
- 33:40Speaker 1: provide full financing for the production, marketing, and distribution of
- 33:47Speaker 1: Chanelle number five, so they would get like the majority
- 33:50Speaker 1: of the profits because they had the majority of the investments.
- 33:54Speaker 1: And initially, Coco Chanell she is absolutely fine with this agreement.
- 34:01Speaker 1: She puts her name on it, but she's not involved
- 34:03Speaker 1: in like the business side of things. So they own this,
- 34:07Speaker 1: these Jewish brothers own this. This is going to be
- 34:13Speaker 1: important later on. But yes, initially Chanell is happy with
- 34:17Speaker 1: this business arrangement. Over time she becomes less happy. I
- 34:21Speaker 1: mean it could be because of you know, her habitual
- 34:24Speaker 1: drug use. So yeah, she becomes pals with Missy Assert,
- 34:28Speaker 1: who is one of the bohemian elite in Paris, and
- 34:32Speaker 1: she's the wife of Jose Marie Assert, the Spanish painter.
- 34:36Speaker 1: So they just start like hanging out and doing drugs.
- 34:41Speaker 1: Like Chanell becomes addicted to morphine, and if the stories
- 34:46Speaker 1: are true, Chanelle had some of the quote unquote best
- 34:51Speaker 1: cocaine parties in Paris. I mean, don't be shocked. Back
- 34:56Speaker 1: in the day everything had like heroin or morphine or
- 35:01Speaker 1: opium or cocaine. Just raisins everything. And at this point
- 35:07Speaker 1: in her life, things are going well for Chanel. You know,
- 35:11Speaker 1: she gets introduced to British high society. She meets Winston Churchill,
- 35:17Speaker 1: the Prince of Wales and the Duke of Westminster, who
- 35:23Speaker 1: is how do I put this disgusting anti Semite. So
- 35:29Speaker 1: he fucking hates Jews, absolutely can't stand them, doesn't even
- 35:33Speaker 1: like it when they're a wee bit Jewish, not adult.
- 35:36Speaker 1: That was a really bad joke. My dad's side is Jewish,
- 35:40Speaker 1: so they can kick my ass for making that joke later. So, yeah,
- 35:44Speaker 1: she is dealing with this Duke of Westminster and he
- 35:48Speaker 1: is lavishing her with jewels, art, decadent shit, as per
- 35:54Speaker 1: fucking usual, and he gets her a home in Mayfair.
- 35:59Speaker 1: Now I've been this before. You get a monopoly board,
- 36:03Speaker 1: Mayfair is the purple one. It's it's where the money is. Like,
- 36:08Speaker 1: only rich people love in Mayfair, you know. Oh yes,
- 36:11Speaker 1: not just an anti Semite but also hated the gaze.
- 36:15Speaker 1: And are we really surprised, No, not even a little bit.
- 36:20Speaker 1: So while she's swornen a bit England, not only does
- 36:23Speaker 1: she have the Duke of Westminster on a tail, but
- 36:25Speaker 1: you know Edward, the Prince of Wales, he is also
- 36:29Speaker 1: chasing her. That's right, the one who abdicates. Uh huh. Yeah,
- 36:36Speaker 1: And apparently they had something something going on, but it
- 36:41Speaker 1: fizzles out at some point, probably because the Duke of
- 36:44Speaker 1: Winceminster gives her this fucking patch of land in France
- 36:49Speaker 1: where she builds a villa La Pozza. Now I cannot
- 36:53Speaker 1: be mad for her for taking you know, money off
- 36:56Speaker 1: of of British royals to build her ship, Like I
- 36:58Speaker 1: can't be mad at that. So Chanel has been rubbing
- 37:01Speaker 1: elbows and shoulders with the trendy French, the British aristocracy.
- 37:06Speaker 1: What's next movie stars abse fucolutely. She starts designing in
- 37:11Speaker 1: like nineteen thirty one. She starts designing for the moving pictures.
- 37:17Speaker 1: So she goes to Hollywood and a white train decked
- 37:22Speaker 1: out to be luxurious. Think you know, I was gonna say,
- 37:26Speaker 1: the Polar Express. That's wrong, Orient Express, the Polar Express,
- 37:31Speaker 1: Fuck's sake. No, So she goes over there and she
- 37:36Speaker 1: dresses these movie stars and does costume for film. She
- 37:41Speaker 1: gets Greta Garbo and Marlene Dietrich to be her private lines,
- 37:45Speaker 1: which I mean, of course she does. That's fine, But
- 37:49Speaker 1: she does not like Hollywood. She finds it incredibly distasteful.
- 37:54Speaker 1: She doesn't like it. You know, it's not her bag,
- 37:57Speaker 1: it's beneath her effectively, and she really doesn't get or
- 38:02Speaker 1: doesn't appreciate, I think the Hollywood glamour because she was
- 38:07Speaker 1: very like you see her designs, they're very representative of
- 38:11Speaker 1: who she is as a designer, and Hollywood was just more,
- 38:17Speaker 1: you know, and she was not back to her personal
- 38:21Speaker 1: life though she is shagging the poet Pierre le Valde
- 38:26Speaker 1: and the designer Paulribe. Now her and Paul there together
- 38:31Speaker 1: up until nineteen thirty six when he dies. And yeah,
- 38:37Speaker 1: the thing about poly rebe Eribe, I don't know how
- 38:39Speaker 1: to pronounce his name, and I don't care again because
- 38:41Speaker 1: he's a fucking antisemite and I have absolutely no patience
- 38:44Speaker 1: for those kind of arseholes. He's a big lo give
- 38:47Speaker 1: a fuck. He dies arios. So not only was Chanelle,
- 38:51Speaker 1: you know, having these affairs with these dodgy, fucking dudes,
- 38:56Speaker 1: she was also getting i don't know, insecure, power, annoyed,
- 39:00Speaker 1: and absolutely batshit crazy. I don't say that lightly. Because
- 39:06Speaker 1: there's this designer, Elsa Schiaparelli who's when she's Italian and
- 39:11Speaker 1: I will cover her someday because she's just fucking awesome.
- 39:15Speaker 1: So she's very avant garde. She's fun and funky, and
- 39:20Speaker 1: she's has these sort of hints of surrealism, you know,
- 39:28Speaker 1: she's inspired by Dally and things like that, and they're
- 39:31Speaker 1: very boyish, they're very traditional lines in shapes, they very
- 39:34Speaker 1: austere designs of Chanel. They aren't quite cutting it anymore.
- 39:40Speaker 1: So it's coming into like through the thirties, and this
- 39:44Speaker 1: woman is just taking over hodkature. And while everyone is
- 39:49Speaker 1: singing Sciaparelli's praises and everything else, Chanelle ends up collaborating
- 39:56Speaker 1: with Jean Cock two on on this theater piece, and
- 40:00Speaker 1: basically it gets torn to shreds, much like her designs,
- 40:05Speaker 1: because they were just not good. They were very affected,
- 40:09Speaker 1: they were dodgy. Nobody liked them. And everyone is still
- 40:12Speaker 1: singing these damn praises by Skaperelly, and so Scapberelly is
- 40:19Speaker 1: calling her like the hat maker, and and Chanelle is
- 40:23Speaker 1: referring to her rival as the girl who makes clothes
- 40:25Speaker 1: because she doesn't have, you know, professional training. She just
- 40:28Speaker 1: kind of made her way in the world. I mean,
- 40:31Speaker 1: Skaperelli was rich, but you know still. So then there
- 40:36Speaker 1: is the costume party. This all comes to a head
- 40:40Speaker 1: and they're at this party and Elsa's Skapbarelli is dressed
- 40:45Speaker 1: as a tree. I can't remember what Chanelle was dressed as,
- 40:49Speaker 1: I seem to have blocked it from my memory. So
- 40:53Speaker 1: Chanelle goes over to her and asks her to dance,
- 40:57Speaker 1: you know, which seems innocuous enough, That seems nice. Maybe
- 41:00Speaker 1: she's making amends. Maybe she's playing up for the elite
- 41:05Speaker 1: that are surrounding them a little bit crazier than that,
- 41:09Speaker 1: we bit bad. What she does is she maneuvers el
- 41:16Speaker 1: sisciapraily towards an open flame and sets her on fire.
- 41:24Speaker 1: She set her on fire. That was a plan. That
- 41:28Speaker 1: was a deliberate action this woman did. That is not
- 41:30Speaker 1: what somebody in the right frame of mind does. One
- 41:33Speaker 1: does not just set your rival on fire. I mean,
- 41:38Speaker 1: what the fuck. In nineteen thirty six, there is a
- 41:42Speaker 1: French general labor strike. So yeah, all of the laborers,
- 41:47Speaker 1: they go on strike. This fucking hurts Chanel because she
- 41:51Speaker 1: is very well right wing. She doesn't believe in unions,
- 41:56Speaker 1: she doesn't believe in strikes. She's not really a fan
- 41:59Speaker 1: of fair wages, you know what I mean. So she
- 42:03Speaker 1: is very angry that her workers want higher wages, you know,
- 42:09Speaker 1: you know, just a standard standard living, you know, as
- 42:15Speaker 1: someone who grew upped up or she should understand that.
- 42:18Speaker 1: But for some reason, I guess she's too far away
- 42:21Speaker 1: from it now, especially considering she's still telling people that
- 42:24Speaker 1: she is in fact, you know, had such a wonderful
- 42:28Speaker 1: grand life growing up. Then of course, World War two.
- 42:34Speaker 1: So nineteen thirty nine, you know, war is declared and
- 42:38Speaker 1: Chanell just straight up closes her fashion house. It is
- 42:42Speaker 1: just stopped. She goes on to say that it's not
- 42:46Speaker 1: a time for fashion, and effectively four thousand workers lose
- 42:50Speaker 1: their jobs. She just cuts off four thousand women straight away,
- 42:58Speaker 1: not as if she could have, I don't know, worked
- 43:01Speaker 1: with the French government to have them so shit, I
- 43:04Speaker 1: don't know, there were things you do in wartime. So yeah,
- 43:09Speaker 1: she does that, and she gets really angry because on
- 43:15Speaker 1: more than one occasion during this time, Chanell states that
- 43:19Speaker 1: she believes that Jewish people, you know, are a threat
- 43:23Speaker 1: to Europe in general, and they were the cause of
- 43:30Speaker 1: the Bolshevik government in the Sovietian like the Jews. But
- 43:35Speaker 1: of course, Madame Chanelle, she needs somewhere to stay at
- 43:39Speaker 1: this point. And does she stay in her villa, Does
- 43:43Speaker 1: she stay in many of her apartments where she could
- 43:46Speaker 1: live in England or elsewhere in France. No, she moves
- 43:52Speaker 1: into the Hotel Ritz, aided by an old friend that
- 43:58Speaker 1: she knew pre war, a certain baron Hans Gunter, von Dnklich.
- 44:06Speaker 1: He was a German aristocrat. He was a member of
- 44:08Speaker 1: the Prussian Army, you know, before World War One, but
- 44:14Speaker 1: before Germany became Germany, so like Prussia, Bismarck, the whole shebang. Anyway,
- 44:21Speaker 1: he was there and Baron von Dnklich he he had
- 44:27Speaker 1: a special relationship with Madame Chanel and he was the
- 44:33Speaker 1: one that made sure she managed to get an abode
- 44:37Speaker 1: within the hotel Rats. He made sure she got in
- 44:41Speaker 1: there and they have an affair. Oh what you're You're shocked?
- 44:47Speaker 1: I'm sure, are you shocked? This is shocking news. Fuck off.
- 44:52Speaker 1: So we know now that many French military documents have
- 44:59Speaker 1: been unseen. Remember the Verdheimer brothers, Yes, the men who
- 45:04Speaker 1: own the Chanelle perform See, the Nazis were putting into
- 45:08Speaker 1: law that Jewish people could not own businesses. You know,
- 45:13Speaker 1: that thing was coming into France as well as everywhere else.
- 45:17Speaker 1: And Chanelle knew this was going to be happening again
- 45:20Speaker 1: because of her Shagan and Nazi and so she starts
- 45:24Speaker 1: petitioning the Germans to reclaim her sole ownership of the
- 45:30Speaker 1: brand of the Chanelle perfume. So she was actively trying
- 45:35Speaker 1: to get rid of her Jewish business partners in more
- 45:38Speaker 1: ways than one. She basically put a target on their backs.
- 45:42Speaker 1: So she tried to fuck them over. But the Verdheimer brothers,
- 45:46Speaker 1: they weren't idiots. They could see this coming. So Chanelle
- 45:50Speaker 1: writes to the government administrator in charge of Jewish assets, right,
- 45:58Speaker 1: and she's like, I own it because Parform Chanel is
- 46:02Speaker 1: still the property of Jews and as such had been
- 46:05Speaker 1: legally abandoned by the owners, and so she was, you know,
- 46:11Speaker 1: trying to reclaim it back. Unbeknownst to Chanel though, right,
- 46:15Speaker 1: they had legally turned control of Parform Chanel to Felix Anniel,
- 46:22Speaker 1: who was a Christian French businessman, and so they had
- 46:28Speaker 1: transferred all the deeds to this dude in nineteen forty
- 46:31Speaker 1: and she's petitioning in forty one. So she had no
- 46:33Speaker 1: idea this has happened because they were like, nope, this
- 46:36Speaker 1: ain't happening. So this legal battle continues and Chanelle hires
- 46:45Speaker 1: the French Prime Minister's son in law as her lawyer
- 46:48Speaker 1: to sue you know, the Verendheimer's. Luckily enough, in like
- 46:55Speaker 1: after a while, they come to an agreement, but it
- 46:59Speaker 1: doesn't change the fact that she tried to you know,
- 47:05Speaker 1: destroy to Jewish men. And if you think that's where
- 47:10Speaker 1: it stops, oh no, it gets much worse. We don't
- 47:15Speaker 1: know exactly why, but Chanel had a code name Westminster
- 47:22Speaker 1: and a German agent spy number F seven one two four.
- 47:29Speaker 1: So the Germans invade France. She moves into a hotel
- 47:34Speaker 1: where the Germans are. She then spends a lot of
- 47:38Speaker 1: time with them, having affairs with them, tries to destroy
- 47:42Speaker 1: Jewish people, and well, you know, it's funny. Women in
- 47:50Speaker 1: France were punished for horizontal collaboration with German officers. Right.
- 47:56Speaker 1: What would happen is they would get their head shaved
- 47:58Speaker 1: and stuff and just humiliated a bunch of other shit.
- 48:01Speaker 1: They would be tried and everything. Many things would happen.
- 48:05Speaker 1: This didn't happen to Chanell. Oh no. The moment the
- 48:09Speaker 1: war was over, she puts this sign up in her
- 48:13Speaker 1: store gate saying that Chanelle number five is free to
- 48:16Speaker 1: oh gis ha haha. And then she gets the hell
- 48:19Speaker 1: at a dodge and focks off to Switzerland so that
- 48:22Speaker 1: she cannot be tried as a Nazi collaborator. Now, this
- 48:27Speaker 1: to me does not seem like the actions of an
- 48:31Speaker 1: innocent women. And what do you know, I'm fucking right.
- 48:37Speaker 1: So she is involved in a third Reich plan to
- 48:42Speaker 1: take control of Madrid like Spain. Like she's part of this.
- 48:49Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go into Operation Model hut In
- 48:52Speaker 1: like a separate Berrysode because there's just too much of
- 48:54Speaker 1: it going on. But basically, yeah, So she gets interrogated
- 49:00Speaker 1: in nineteen forty four from the Free French Purge Committee
- 49:03Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, we can't find evidence. And fun fact,
- 49:09Speaker 1: Chanell started telling people that Winston Churchill had her freed
- 49:17Speaker 1: so that she would escape prosecutions so she wouldn't have
- 49:20Speaker 1: to deal with this shit that she did. But yes,
- 49:24Speaker 1: post war, she ballocks off to Switzerland and you know
- 49:27Speaker 1: how stays with her sometimes there barn Vaughan dunkledge. That's right,
- 49:33Speaker 1: that motherfucker is there with her. What So she's safe
- 49:36Speaker 1: and relatively secure in Switzerland and she sells her villa
- 49:40Speaker 1: La Paza because Switzerland's expensive. You need to have more money. AnyWho.
- 49:48Speaker 1: Business wise, things are, things are changing. So Dors come
- 49:53Speaker 1: onto the scene with his new look, and Edie's just
- 49:56Speaker 1: overtaking everything. You've got all these like mall designers taking over.
- 50:00Speaker 1: At this point you've got Balenciaga, Piguet, Fath Dior obviously,
- 50:06Speaker 1: and she was like, she fucking hated these designs, you know,
- 50:14Speaker 1: the sensed waste, the boobs, like the very feminine, the
- 50:18Speaker 1: very lots of fabric, lots of shape. She despised this,
- 50:23Speaker 1: and she was like, female designers will just rebel against
- 50:27Speaker 1: this arg and you know, hm hmm sight away she
- 50:32Speaker 1: nails like seventy or over seventy at this point, and
- 50:36Speaker 1: her you know, her creture house, her Maison Cutillier has
- 50:39Speaker 1: been closed for I don't know, nearly two decades, and
- 50:42Speaker 1: she's like, I need to re enter the fucking fashion world.
- 50:48Speaker 1: And Pierre Vertheimer, who oh, how do I put this,
- 50:55Speaker 1: clearly did not holdy grudge and also liked making money
- 50:59Speaker 1: and knew he could he financially just backs this comeback
- 51:05Speaker 1: collection and so heard about this. So like a lot
- 51:11Speaker 1: of a lot of the French press are really apprehensive
- 51:15Speaker 1: to like comment on it, but like America and Britain
- 51:18Speaker 1: were all like, oh, look at Chanel, look at the
- 51:20Speaker 1: clean lines. It's beautiful, it's amazing. And of course this
- 51:25Speaker 1: is the creation of the Chanelle suit. As she moved
- 51:31Speaker 1: to the sixties and into like the early seventies, Chanelle's
- 51:35Speaker 1: getting angrier and intense and not fun to be around.
- 51:42Speaker 1: Tyrannical is actually the word that's used most often. But
- 51:45Speaker 1: she is still living at the Ritz. She went back
- 51:48Speaker 1: there because of course she fucking did. She is preparing
- 51:51Speaker 1: the spring catalog, and she goes for a long drive
- 51:55Speaker 1: in the afternoon and she's thinkin of shitty. She comes
- 52:01Speaker 1: back and she says to her maid, you see, this
- 52:07Speaker 1: is how you die. Because she has her maid with
- 52:11Speaker 1: her in the Hotel Rits. She then goes to bed
- 52:16Speaker 1: and the very next day, Gabrielle Coco Chanel passes away
- 52:22Speaker 1: on Sunday, the tenth of January nineteen seventy one, at
- 52:26Speaker 1: the Hotel Rits, at the age of eighty seven. And frankly,
- 52:31Speaker 1: she lived far too long for someone who was so
- 52:33Speaker 1: much of an arsehole. You know how, sometimes they say
- 52:36Speaker 1: that you can separate art from the artists. I don't
- 52:40Speaker 1: think that's the case here. If you look at any
- 52:43Speaker 1: of Chanelle's designs, they're very austere, They're very right wing
- 52:49Speaker 1: in their shape, like there is no like she is
- 52:53Speaker 1: clearly inspired by this, you know. So here's the thing.
- 52:59Speaker 1: I love the perfume Coco Mademoiselle bau Chanel. I thought
- 53:03Speaker 1: it was amazing, but I actually just stopped wearing it
- 53:07Speaker 1: when you know, I learned initially about Chanelle's involvement, and
- 53:12Speaker 1: then like a few years ago, I had discovered, you know,
- 53:19Speaker 1: the situation with the Wertheimers and the fact that they
- 53:22Speaker 1: owned the company. They're the ones who who had it.
- 53:27Speaker 1: You know, they claimed it back and their descendants still
- 53:31Speaker 1: own the fucking thing. So the very people she tried
- 53:33Speaker 1: to destroy, they still own that company. And I say
- 53:37Speaker 1: that as a massive fuck you to Coco Chanel and
- 53:40Speaker 1: as such like that was the point I decided to
- 53:43Speaker 1: start wearing the perfume again. And that's why I don't
- 53:46Speaker 1: mind wearing Chanelle stuff, because she lost in the end.
- 53:52Speaker 1: I mean, I wish she lost harder. And as a woman,
- 53:56Speaker 1: I have heard the phrase, you know, Coco Chanell always
- 54:00Speaker 1: says to take off one accessory before you leave the house.
- 54:04Speaker 1: And to that, I say, nah, I add another one on,
- 54:08Speaker 1: and another one. Where as many accessories as you fucking
- 54:11Speaker 1: like shove a crown on, it doesn't where whatever the
- 54:14Speaker 1: fuck you want, because fuck minimalism, focusterity, Fuck Coco Chanel. Frankly,
- 54:21Speaker 1: she should go choke on a bag of Nazi dix,
- 54:23Speaker 1: the fascist love and twat waffle. Okay, so that today's tail.
- 54:31Speaker 1: If you liked my retelling of this piece of history,
- 54:34Speaker 1: feel free to rate and review five stars on Apple Podcasts,
- 54:37Speaker 1: Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. When your rate
- 54:41Speaker 1: and review five stars, it really helps me on the
- 54:43Speaker 1: business end. It really pushes me up the charts and
- 54:46Speaker 1: it gets more people seeing this podcast, and it will
- 54:50Speaker 1: really really help me. It absolutely will. And you don't
- 54:52Speaker 1: have to say anything. But you could write anything in there.
- 54:54Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. You could insult me. It really doesn't matter.
- 54:57Speaker 1: I mean I do love compliments, so there is that.
- 55:01Speaker 1: But anyway, yes, I should give you some recommendations. So
- 55:09Speaker 1: reading recommendations, I'm going to go with Ooh, Advice from
- 55:15Speaker 1: Strangers by Rachel Paris. It's just a good read. For listening,
- 55:22Speaker 1: I'm gonna recommend the podcast Trashy Divorces. Just go, you're
- 55:28Speaker 1: gonna love it, trust me. And for watching, let's not
- 55:34Speaker 1: pretend that the Bruneissance has passed us by. Just watch
- 55:37Speaker 1: as many Brendan Fraser films as you can. I'm talking
- 55:41Speaker 1: blast from the past, George of the Jungle, the Mummy,
- 55:45Speaker 1: The Mummy returns. We don't talk about the third one.
- 55:48Speaker 1: It's not good, so then go watch them. And also
- 55:52Speaker 1: Doom Patrol. I mean, you don't get to see his face,
- 55:54Speaker 1: but he's funny in it. If you like weird things,
- 55:57Speaker 1: you like Doom Patrol. But yes, Breneissance. Anyway, I am
- 56:02Speaker 1: going to go now and I will chat to you
- 56:04Speaker 1: again soon. Adios. Au Revoir of Widows Are My Friends?
- 56:08Speaker 1: A Bae by