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Vincent Vallelong | President of the Sergeant's Benevolent Association | 07-02-26 · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: So let me get to Vincent Vallalong, who remains the
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  Speaker 1: president of the Sergeants Benelevant Association. He elected again to
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  Speaker 1: be their president. So congratulations, he's a great guy, great cop.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations then, and something tells me you agree with Frank
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  Speaker 1: Morano that at the very best, at the very best,
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  Speaker 1: this mayor is a liar.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he's more than a liar. He's he's a deceitful individual.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And it's and it seems as if that he's pulled
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  Speaker 2: the rug over every out from everybody, every city council
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  Speaker 2: member with regards to this budget, and if he did
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  Speaker 2: it with the cops at the last minute, the real
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  Speaker 2: big question should be right now is you know what
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  Speaker 2: else is hidden inside this budget that they did not
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  Speaker 2: look at? Were they asleep at the wheel when they
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  Speaker 2: were supposed to be doing their jobs? And if they
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  Speaker 2: let him do this, who is who he is? Considered
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  Speaker 2: technically a neophyte in this position, you know, if they
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  Speaker 2: let if the senior people let him this, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I hold them accountable, you know, every single one of them.
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  Speaker 2: There are ones that are standing up and screaming and yelling.
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  Speaker 2: That's all well and fine, but what this budget did
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  Speaker 2: was make every single New Yorker a lot less safe.
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  Speaker 1: I mean when you say a lot less safe, because
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  Speaker 1: I do talk to Jessica's you know, Tish, He's a
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  Speaker 1: good fund, very good fun.
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  Speaker 3: We're very close, you know one right, No, I know
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  Speaker 3: you're not.
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  Speaker 1: But when Eric Adams left, there was like thirty one
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  Speaker 1: thousand cops. Eric Adams did not go out of his
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  Speaker 1: way to hire more cops. You understand that now, unless
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  Speaker 1: somebody is lying to me, I believe right now there's
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  Speaker 1: about thirty four thousand. But I'm also aware that about
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  Speaker 1: three or four thousand are about to walk out, and
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea how many are going to walk in.
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  Speaker 3: I get, I get all that. But in this budget, as.
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  Speaker 1: Far as I know, Vince, they're only going to add
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  Speaker 1: five hundred and eighty cops, not five thousand, not ten thousand,
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  Speaker 1: five hundred. I know they wanted a fifth firefighter as well.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm not okay, not dting one cop, not aating one,
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  Speaker 1: let alone almost six hundred, but it was five hundred
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  Speaker 1: and eighty rot not five thousand.
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  Speaker 2: If you do not promote, if you do not make
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  Speaker 2: police officers, you cannot make supervisors. And when all of
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  Speaker 2: the top minds of this job are leaving in retirement.
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  Speaker 2: Who is to hand down that knowledge to the younger guys.
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  Speaker 2: You are now a year behind in hiring people, which
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  Speaker 2: is in essence what it is that's going to be done.
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  Speaker 2: Five eighty was really was really a minimal number. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they need a lot more than that. Everybody knows that.
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  Speaker 2: We can say thirty four thousand, we can say thirty
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  Speaker 2: five thousand, but the reality of it is, we need
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  Speaker 2: boots on the ground, We need the cops. The cops
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  Speaker 2: are burning the candle at both ends. They are exhausted,
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  Speaker 2: they're doing all they're doing these extended tours, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And yet listen, that's part of our job. And I
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  Speaker 2: get it, and I'm not crying about that, but where's
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  Speaker 2: the reinforced When are they coming? Because you know what
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  Speaker 2: they're not. And he ran on defunding the police. That
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  Speaker 2: is what it is he is doing. You can give
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  Speaker 2: me all the political bs you want, okay, but that
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  Speaker 2: is exactly what this is here. And he told everybody
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  Speaker 2: he was putting the minimum amount of police officers in
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  Speaker 2: and then totally stabbed every single one of them in
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  Speaker 2: the back and pulled it out of the budget.
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  Speaker 1: He did mean and you know what he did, Vince hiss,
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  Speaker 1: son of a bitch, because you know, nobody hates this
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  Speaker 1: guy more than I do, having your right there with me.
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  Speaker 1: But he did it, according to Frank and others like
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  Speaker 1: Midnight a couple of nights ago, why did he do that?
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  Speaker 1: Because at that point it was too late, it was
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  Speaker 1: too late for the city council members to come back
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  Speaker 1: and do something about it.
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  Speaker 2: So listen, I don't have I don't have a personal
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  Speaker 2: problem with the speaker, Okay, So I just want to
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  Speaker 2: get that out there right away.
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  Speaker 1: Well when you guy, well you even you even have
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  Speaker 1: correct me if I'm long. You're on the show a
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  Speaker 1: couple of months ago. You even at one point Levy
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  Speaker 1: a lawsuit against Tulie men and right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I filed an ethics complaint, right right, right, So,
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  Speaker 2: but but you know, if I have to be the
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  Speaker 2: watchdog and I'm a I'm a cop, you know what
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  Speaker 2: is everybody else doing when they're watching all of this
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  Speaker 2: stuff happen. You know, they're going after the likes of
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  Speaker 2: of of of Vicki Palladino, right and and but but
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  Speaker 2: they're they're held to a different standard. You know, she's
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  Speaker 2: in that position to be the counter to the mayor.
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  Speaker 2: And as far as I'm concerned, she even if she
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  Speaker 2: got it the last minute, she could have she could
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  Speaker 2: have paused this. They didn't have to have that budget
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  Speaker 2: done immediately. She could have paused it and said, you
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  Speaker 2: know what, Nope, we're not taking this to a vote.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're we're gonna we're gonna bring everybody back
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  Speaker 2: in and we're going to look through this whole entire budget.
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  Speaker 2: She's the checks and balances, and she did not do
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  Speaker 2: her job, is the way I see it.
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  Speaker 3: So you're placing blame on Julie Mennon on this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm placing blame on the whole city council. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: placing blame on on one individual. But she is she's
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  Speaker 2: the she's the sheriff in town. She's supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: the one that's supposed to keep everybody in line.
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  Speaker 1: So, Benny, tell me this, how many cops are set
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  Speaker 1: to walk out this year? And some of these guys
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  Speaker 1: cut me if I'm wrong. It's gotten so bad in
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  Speaker 1: this city. We all know you're not making millions, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and you get no respect from the mayor and the
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  Speaker 1: rest of these lunatics in and around him, and about
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  Speaker 1: forty five of the fifty one council members don't give
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  Speaker 1: a ratsass about you guys. So the cops know it.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of these guys are walking out even before,
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  Speaker 1: even before they get their pensions. How many cops do
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  Speaker 1: you expect to walk out by the.
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  Speaker 3: End of the year.
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  Speaker 2: I think I can give you what it is in
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  Speaker 2: my rank. Okay, And just an example, this month, we
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  Speaker 2: had thirty five people promoted to sergeant. You had twenty
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  Speaker 2: people promoted to lieutenant. Now this is basic math. That
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  Speaker 2: leaves me with fifteen extra supervisors for the whole entire city.
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  Speaker 2: And then you had eighty one sergeants right now in
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  Speaker 2: rank that filed for retirement. That leaves us at a
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  Speaker 2: negative sixty six. Wow. Where are you making those numbers
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  Speaker 2: up within this next year? Where you want to put
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  Speaker 2: basically a hiring freeze on everybody?
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  Speaker 3: Wow?
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  Speaker 2: That and sid that comes at a cost to the
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  Speaker 2: citizens of this of this city. You know, the people,
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  Speaker 2: the people that are putting money into the city are
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  Speaker 2: expecting a product and they're not getting that product. You
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  Speaker 2: can give away all the free stuff you want, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and You could either put a freeze on housing and
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  Speaker 2: everything else, but at the end of the day, you
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  Speaker 2: can't put a freeze on violent crimes.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me about the morale with the sergeants. I don't
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  Speaker 1: expect you to tell me the morale for the whole
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  Speaker 1: police department. I'll talk to Jessica about that, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: talk to Scott Monroe about the detectives. But in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the sergeants, everybody I talks to talk to says
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  Speaker 1: to me, the morale with the police is way down,
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  Speaker 1: way down, every rank, every file, just about every cop
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  Speaker 1: in the city not exactly walking around feeling great.
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  Speaker 3: What is the truth about the morale with your people?
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  Speaker 2: You have a lot, you have a lot more work
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  Speaker 2: being dumped on these guys. You have ask your desk officers,
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  Speaker 2: just as an example, have absolutely more responsibility, more more
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  Speaker 2: of paper in order to push across the desk, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and less people to help them out to do it. So,
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  Speaker 2: how do you think morale is going to be When
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  Speaker 2: you're doing some somewhere between ten hour twelve hours tour,
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  Speaker 2: you know you're exhausted, you're doing them day after day,
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  Speaker 2: and then you know you're expected to do more work,
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  Speaker 2: and then someone's going to come in and they're going
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  Speaker 2: to they're actually going to give you a command discipline,
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  Speaker 2: which is like a complaint on you know, because you
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  Speaker 2: didn't do your job. You know, there's no room forever,
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  Speaker 2: it seems, you know. And the littlest thing that happens,
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  Speaker 2: these guys are afraid that they're going to get you
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  Speaker 2: the transfer, they're gonna get in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: We saw that a couple of months ago with that
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  Speaker 1: one cop who was being critical of the Democrats, and
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  Speaker 1: he got transferred like that night, I think.
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  Speaker 3: And then what's going on with Eric Drain. What's the
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  Speaker 3: latest with that.
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  Speaker 2: I spoke with him the other day. His spirits are good.
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  Speaker 2: We've we've been raising money for his legal defense still
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  Speaker 2: and you know, listen, author I Donald is doing a
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  Speaker 2: great job with him. You know, the best thing to
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  Speaker 2: do is just keep Eric's spirits up, you know, until
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  Speaker 2: the trial's going along. I mean not the trial, but
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  Speaker 2: they're preparing their appeal. And until that happens, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we won't have a decision. But you know, he's home
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  Speaker 2: with his family and he's having you know, he's enjoying
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  Speaker 2: the time with them. You know, it's very precious.
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  Speaker 1: Then Vincent Valalang is the SBA president in all transparency,
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  Speaker 1: he's also a good friend of mine. Then tell me
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  Speaker 1: how you get young kids to want to be cops
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  Speaker 1: in this city, because at least on this show, almost
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  Speaker 1: every conversation is bad.
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  Speaker 3: It's bad.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the mayor hates us and hate you guys,
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  Speaker 1: and plenty of other officials hate you as well, and
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  Speaker 1: you're down on the city council speaker, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem like it's a very attractive job
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  Speaker 1: these days. How do you, guys, the veterans who have
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  Speaker 1: lived and breathed this job your whole lives, how do
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  Speaker 1: you guys get young kids motivated to want this job.
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  Speaker 2: You tell them about the experiences that you had. You
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  Speaker 2: need to show them that there is a light at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the tunnel with this and what you're
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  Speaker 2: doing is actually is actually good for the people that
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  Speaker 2: you protect day in and day out. I know that's
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  Speaker 2: you know, it seems a little like a cliche, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, I didn't have to grab my son by
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  Speaker 2: the ear and make him take this job. I have
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  Speaker 2: four kids. I could one of them became a cop,
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  Speaker 2: you know, And you know, in today's day and age,
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  Speaker 2: everyone says, oh, well, you know, you know why why
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  Speaker 2: you're putting them in this job? You know no one
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  Speaker 2: wants it. Well, there's a problem with that when no
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  Speaker 2: one wants it, you know, when you're bringing young kids
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  Speaker 2: into a job and making them work tireless hours over
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  Speaker 2: and over again, and there is not enough people to
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  Speaker 2: handle these jobs. Of course you're going to be down
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  Speaker 2: on what it is you do. But this is the
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  Speaker 2: greatest city in the world. You know, it should sell itself.
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  Speaker 2: We shouldn't be having these politicians that create like this,
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  Speaker 2: this gloom and doom or you know that they force
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  Speaker 2: feed their politics down your throat. How do you get
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  Speaker 2: them to take the job? You know what, again, you
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  Speaker 2: have to tell them it is really it's a great
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  Speaker 2: job to raise a family with. You know, at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day you get to you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: enough money for you to put your kids through school. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you have to sometimes take a second job, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's reality. That's that's what life is. And but
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  Speaker 2: I will tell you this before before we go off
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  Speaker 2: at some point, congratulations on your Hall of fame. Thank you,
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  Speaker 2: And I also set my temperature to sixty three.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, good for you, f the mayor seventy eight degrees?
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  Speaker 3: What is he nuts? Last one?
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  Speaker 1: I remember when he won and you are riding op
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  Speaker 1: eds and coming into the studio with me, and you
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  Speaker 1: were hesitant to really kill him, you know you, I
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  Speaker 1: know you hated him, but but maybe I shouldn't say that,
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  Speaker 1: but that's how I felt. But you're wanting to give
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  Speaker 1: the guy a chance. Do you realize it's only been
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  Speaker 1: seven months, seven months of a four year term, and
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  Speaker 1: he's already campaigning and planning for the next four And
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but Dave Portnoy and Curtis Sliewa, they're not
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  Speaker 1: beating Mamdani all. It looks like he maybe you should
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  Speaker 1: win to win again seven months? Is he as bad?
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  Speaker 1: Not as bad? Worse than you thought when he won
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  Speaker 1: back in January?
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  Speaker 2: There is nothing that sells be on him being a
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  Speaker 2: true leader of the city. You can't balance a budget.
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  Speaker 2: When you do balance a budget, it's supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: a correcting past spending and moving forward, not dumping, not
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  Speaker 2: not raising money as someplace else, or getting getting freebies
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  Speaker 2: from a governor and then turning that over and giving
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: them out to people who bring nothing back into the
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  Speaker 2: tax space. You know, do I have any faith in him?
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to, but you're seven months in, I have
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  Speaker 2: absolutely none.
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  Speaker 1: And in terms of the way he's treated the comps,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, he campaigned on defunding the police, he's
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  Speaker 1: really doing that.
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  Speaker 2: He really is, right, it's my understanding. You know, he's
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  Speaker 2: a nice guy when he talked to him, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: I haven't talked to him seven months in. He doesn't
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  Speaker 2: want he doesn't really care about what the opinion is
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  Speaker 2: of the people who are actually doing this job day
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  Speaker 2: in the day out. So how do I have any
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  Speaker 2: respects for someone who doesn't care what it is that
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  Speaker 2: I actually do. But he's making decisions on what it is.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: That's the bottom line, Vinny.
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  Speaker 1: I love your congratulations on again being the president of
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  Speaker 1: the SBA. Couldn't think of a better guy for that job.
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  Speaker 1: You know, an amazing man, a great cop. And New
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  Speaker 1: Yorkers love you. They don't love Mam Donnia and know
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  Speaker 1: he won. I know he won, but trust me what
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  Speaker 1: I tell you, the majority of New Yorkers don't love
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  Speaker 1: this guy.
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  Speaker 3: But they love you. Thank you, Vinny, Thanks Si, God
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  Speaker 3: bless you.
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  Speaker 1: Vincent Valalog right there, the president of the SBA, and he's.
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  Speaker 3: Pissed and he should be pissed.
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  Speaker 1: He's pissed at Julie Mennin, He's pissed at the City Council,
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  Speaker 1: he's pissed at Mom Donnie. I'm sure he's pissed at
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  Speaker 1: a couple of big wigs in the NYPD as well,
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  Speaker 1: because yes, in this one hundred and twenty six billion
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  Speaker 1: dollar budget, one hundred and twenty six billion dollar budget,
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  Speaker 1: he couldn't find a way to add one cop, not
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  Speaker 1: one or that fifth firefighter. Disgraceful. Shame on you, mister Mayor.
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  Speaker 1: Shame on you, mister Mayor.
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