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- 0:00Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Tuesday, January thirtieth. I'm your host,
- 0:03Tom or the Akron game in two hundred and fourteen days, the game
- 0:06against Michigan in three hundred and five days. There's some exciting news on the
- 0:11Ohio State football front coming a little bit later on on Tuesday. We're going
- 0:15to be talking to five of the Buckeyes transfers. Tony Gerderman will be there.
- 0:20Some big names there in addition to Tony Gerderman, of course, but
- 0:24Tony. This is sort of the first step towards the next college football season.
- 0:31Yeah, very much so. Getting to talk to Will Howard and Quinchwn
- 0:35Jadkins and Seth McLaughlin and tied into Will Coas Merrick and of course safety Caleb
- 0:40Downs. This will be our first opportunity to talk to any of them,
- 0:43to meet any of them, and we won't be talking necessarily about last season.
- 0:47We'll be talking about next season. Then this begins the process of so
- 0:52you know why Ohio State, what brought you here? What can you bring
- 0:54to Ohio States? Getting to know these guys, learn about them, and
- 1:00really, like you said, Tom, start to move on to the twenty
- 1:04twenty four season, because after this we'll then we'll have signing Day, We'll
- 1:07get to talk to some coaches, perhaps maybe some early enrollies we'll see,
- 1:12but yeah, this is the beginning and this will be the first look that
- 1:17anybody gets at the twenty twenty four team technically, and those are five of
- 1:21the six. The only true or the only transfer that we're not talking to
- 1:23on Tuesday is quarterback Julian say And, who is a true freshman, so
- 1:26we might get him if we get a true freshman a little later on.
- 1:30But those are certainly five guys who were not on the Ohis State football program
- 1:34and in the Ohistate football program in twenty twenty three who are expected to make
- 1:37a significant impact in twenty twenty four. Today we're gonna be talking about three
- 1:41other guys who were in the program last year, but they were true freshmen,
- 1:44and now entering your second year, the tendan may get a little closer
- 1:49to potentially making a pretty significant impact. And I'm going to tell you if
- 1:53you go back through some of the great teams in Ohio history, Ohio State
- 1:57history nineteen sixty eight was no as the Super Softs. It was second year
- 2:01players who were some of the biggest, most important players on that nineteen sixty
- 2:06eight team. Twenty fourteen, another pretty significant season in Ohio state football history,
- 2:12had second year players like e Iszekiel Elliott and Joey Bosa and others making
- 2:15a pretty significant impact. So the second year players really taking a, you
- 2:21know, the next step that is not unheard of in Ohio state football history.
- 2:24Today, Tony has written about a bunch of he's written about to d
- 2:28eight eight of them, three of them on offense, five on defense.
- 2:30Today we're gonna be talking about just three of the guys he's written about on
- 2:32offense who could be poised to sort of take another significant step. There's a
- 2:37bigger role this ball. We're gonna start with wide receiver Brandon innis Is regular
- 2:42season. He had one catch during the regular season. It was a pretty
- 2:45memorable one fifty eight yards for a touchdown against Purdue. Tony, he's one
- 2:49of those guys who we've been looking at at camp. You know, I
- 2:52think we watched him at camp in like twenty twenty maybe, I mean,
- 2:54you're twenty nineteen or twenty twenty one. It's been one of those years,
- 3:00those years with numbers, but he is. You know, he's been someone
- 3:02who has been a was a very very highly recruited player. He was also
- 3:07someone who looked at him and just kind of saw it immediately. We didn't
- 3:12get a chance to see a lot of it last year, but this year
- 3:15feels like a chance where you've got some openings in that wide receiver rotation.
- 3:19This could be a real opportunity for Brandonness to take a big step forward.
- 3:23Yeah, and Brandon played in a handful of games on offense and did a
- 3:27lot of special teams work as well this past season. But moving forward,
- 3:30if if you're assuming a Mecca Buka is moving from the slot to outside,
- 3:37but even if he doesn't, Xavier Johnson has moved on out of the slot,
- 3:39so he's out to the NFL. That was one of the people keeping
- 3:44Brandon Inis on the sideline. So the depth chart has gotten thinner, especially
- 3:49on the inside. And there is a scenario where Brandon Innis is You're starting
- 3:53slot receiver this year, depending on how they want to do it, and
- 3:55if they do move Mecca Buka outside, You've got Brandon Ennis, you got
- 4:00Bryson Rodgers as two guys who played in the slot last year, practiced in
- 4:04the slot, didn't play too much, but in his I know the expectations
- 4:10are very high. I think he was, by one of the services,
- 4:12the number one receiver in the twenty twenty three class. You mentioned his one
- 4:17catch fifty eight yard touchdown. The last Ohio State true freshman to have a
- 4:21fifty eight yard touchdown catch in his first catch David Boston in nineteen ninety six.
- 4:28Pretty good company. Pretty I'm just gonna assume they are the only two
- 4:32in it. I'll just I'm not going to do too much research on that
- 4:35one, but a ton of expectations very quick. Has some Jackson Smith and
- 4:41Jigbet to him, which I think will excite people as well. Yeah,
- 4:46he's one of those guys who, as soon as he was even on the
- 4:48radar for Ohios that you had people excited about what he could be when he
- 4:53got to Ohio State and was working with Brian Hartline and all that kind of
- 4:56stuff. And I don't feel like that's changed at all. I'm sure people
- 5:00wondering why aren't they talking about Colonel Tate. Well Tony hasn't written about Colonel
- 5:01Tate yet. We'll get there on some future show. There's plenty to be
- 5:05excited about there as well for the buck Eyes. But now let's move on
- 5:09to another potential receiving target that is tight ended. Jelanie Thurman. He's another
- 5:13guy who just a very unique skill set, a very I mean a very
- 5:17unique athlete, someone who might be able to bring some different things to the
- 5:21tight end position at Ohio State. He's not he's not a cave stover by
- 5:25any means, but he could be a really unique receiving threat for the Buckeyes
- 5:29this year. Big receiver, you know, six six, two fifty or
- 5:32so, and has incredible athleticism. I know from talking with Keenan Bailey this
- 5:39past spring. One of the things that he said was just the way he
- 5:43attacks the film room and the playbook off the field is as oppressive as anything
- 5:47he does on the field. And we saw him in practice time a couple
- 5:49of times where they're using him in the in the red zone and he was
- 5:54very effective. And he's played five games this year. One of the rare
- 5:59guys who started a game and also red shirted. He started the Cotton Bowl
- 6:02against Missouri, played like the first two snaps and that was it for him.
- 6:06But they wanted to open up in twelve personnel and obviously Kate's Dover being
- 6:11hurt, so he got that nod, But you know, as a potentially
- 6:17game changing type of tight end, who can do it all, who should
- 6:20be able to do it all, you know, he lost his black stripe
- 6:24really early, I think for tight ends at Ohio State. But it's still
- 6:30hard to expect too much from him this year, just because we see how
- 6:34developmental the position is at Ohio State. It's rare for a second year guy
- 6:40to come in and put up thirty catches or twenty five catches at tight end.
- 6:44Seems to be it's like year three, year four, year five when
- 6:46that sort of stuff happens. But I would say, I don't know that
- 6:49they' found anybody this talented in that position. And you're losing Kates Dover,
- 6:55so there's a bunch of catches there, but you're bringing in Will Casmeric from
- 6:59Ohio. You've got g Scott back for his fifth year. So it would
- 7:03be one thing if you didn't have the transfer and you didn't have G Scott
- 7:08that it would be like what kind of year can you get from Jelanni Thurman.
- 7:11This might be a pretty big year, but it also might be up
- 7:13and down. Now he's gonna have to earn everything agains, which means I
- 7:17think you'll see the snaps that he does get, he'll be more prepared for.
- 7:20He'll be better snaps. I just I'm wondering how much he'll get to
- 7:24play with the room being situated as it is. Well, they brought in
- 7:29Kasmeric very clearly to be the blocking tight end that that is sort of what
- 7:33he's known for at Ohio, and g Scott has obviously made the long,
- 7:39gradual, gradual, eventual transition from wide receiver to tight end sort of fully
- 7:43at this point, so you have another veteran guy in there. Derman feels
- 7:46like someone they're gonna They're not gonna be able to keep him off the field.
- 7:48He's gonna play some, but he's not necessarily going to be you know,
- 7:54they rely on that blocking at that tight end position a lot. He's
- 7:57probably not gonna be the best blocking option there. We'll see how he continue
- 8:00to develop. But Ianan Bailey has talked in the past about you have to
- 8:03be able to catch the ball like you're a big ten wide receiver, and
- 8:05you have to be able to block defensive ends or flitzing linebackers or whoever it
- 8:11is, like you're a big ten offensive lineman. Those are two very different
- 8:15skill sets. You got to kind of balance both of those. There's a
- 8:18lot of technique got to learn, there's a lot of just physical development You've
- 8:20got to have to sort of build up to be able to do both of
- 8:24those things. So that is one of those reasons where you don't necessarily see
- 8:28the huge second season out of a tight end that is a little bit more
- 8:31of a developmental position a lot like offensive line. So yeah, I'm with
- 8:37you. I don't think you're seeing thirty five receptions for Jolanni Thurman this ball,
- 8:39but I think you're going to see enough that you're going to have Ohio
- 8:43State fans being very very excited about Jolanni Thurman for twenty twenty five and beyond.
- 8:48The last guy I wanted to talk to you about Tony Luke Montgomery.
- 8:50He's another guy who came in with some real serious recruiting bona fides. And
- 8:56you know, offensive line is another one of these spots where you just you're
- 8:58not going to play a lot as a true freshman. But Luke Montgomery was
- 9:03out there quite a bit for a true freshman offensive lineman, and it feels
- 9:07like he you know, there's some uncertainty on that offensive line, but there's
- 9:11a lot of those sort of projected offensive line lineups for this fall that involved
- 9:16Luke Montgomery playing a pretty significant role. Yeah, there is a job opening
- 9:22on the right side of the offensive line with the departure of Matt Jones,
- 9:26the right guard. So you have a you have your right tackle, Josh
- 9:30Fryar returning, but would he be better at right guard and would that allow
- 9:35for Luke Montgomery to step in at right tackle or is Josh Fryer a better
- 9:39right tackle than Luke Montgomery and Taker Shabala is a better right guard, then
- 9:46Luke Montgomery is the right tackle. He started. Like the first half of
- 9:48last year, Luke Mountgomery played the sixth most snaps. He was basically the
- 9:54sixth man on the offensive line, would come in on the Bison package as
- 9:58an extra blocker. But as the season went on, you saw you he
- 10:03getting more snaps and even Tager Shabola got snaps as the extra offensive lineman in
- 10:07the cotton ball instead of Luke Montgomery. So I don't know if I think
- 10:11it wouldn't be outside of the realm of possibility if the freshman wall is being
- 10:16hit a little bit by the end of the season, but he was still
- 10:18playing, and he still played in just about every game last year, and
- 10:22I do think that he is. He may have been the seventh man by
- 10:28the end of the season last year. I think he's got a really good
- 10:31shot to be one of the top five guys. And it's just a matter
- 10:33of how well does the right side of that line shakeout. Do they go
- 10:39and get somebody in the portal this spring, and like I said, is
- 10:43it it comes down to basically like a three man race. If they don't
- 10:46get anybody, it's basically like a three man race in my opinion of which
- 10:52which of these two of these three make them better with Josh Briar, Luke
- 10:56Montgomery, Tager Shabola And if you want to throw Zen Mahalsky in there as
- 10:58well, go ahead. But it's just what's the best combination of those three
- 11:03in whichever two spots. And maybe that means Josh Fryar at right tackle,
- 11:07Luke Montgomery at right guard, or Takerson Ball at right guard and Luke Montgomery
- 11:11at right tackle. I think maybe that would be the odd man out because
- 11:13whereas Josh Fryer in that alignment. So plenty of stuff that still needs to
- 11:18be worked out. We'll see what they do this spring. If it's going
- 11:22to be a situation where they only want Luke Montgomery playing at right tackle so
- 11:26that he can get as much experience there, and then in the fall camp
- 11:31they need to move around, they'll do that as they look for their best
- 11:33five. But I think he's he's gonna be five or six this year in
- 11:37my opinion. Yeah, certainly in the middle of that offensive line picture heading
- 11:43into the spring. We'll see where the spring takes him. But boy,
- 11:46we are officially really today turning the page did the twenty twenty four seasons,
- 11:50starting starting to get to know some of those new and the new transfers.
- 11:54We'll hopefully get to talk to the early enrollies in about a week or so,
- 11:58and then, boy, you're starting to head into spring football not too
- 12:01long away from there, Son, Plenty to be talk about, plenty to
- 12:05be excited about around o Highest Hit Football. If you want to hear a
- 12:07little bit about Michigan football, Tony and I dropped a episode of The Buckeye
- 12:11Weekly podcast talking about the hire of Sharon Moore, departure of Jesse Minter and
- 12:16others, and boy, it's gonna be a it's gonna be a fascinating season,
- 12:20maybe in a slightly different way. Up and in Arbor. You can
- 12:24talk talk with us about both of those things and whatever else you want to
- 12:26at Buckeye Huddle dot com. Lots of coverage of the team, lots of
- 12:31coverage of recruiting x's and o's, and a very lively and active board all
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- 13:01for today. I thank you guys all for joining us. Have a great
- 13:03day. We will talk to you tomorrow