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Bonus Episode: 80s Metalheads, Life-changing Concerts, and Ozzy Osbourne · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch, to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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Speaker 1: the party. The bridge to get you from one full
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Speaker 1: episode or Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig
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Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to
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Speaker 1: confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: we are talking about this week's full episode subject Motorhead.
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Speaker 1: We're rewinding back to our Willie Nelson episodes, previewing our
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Speaker 1: upcoming episode on Kendrick Lamar, and we get into your voicemails, texts, dms,
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Speaker 1: and as always a whole lot of rosy. This is
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Speaker 1: the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent
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Speaker 1: diggers who know that the best history is the history
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Speaker 1: that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories
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Speaker 1: they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling
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Speaker 1: someone else. All right, disc goes, let's get into it.
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Speaker 1: So when I was growing up, real little elementary school
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Speaker 1: early eighties, nineteen eighty three, to be precise, I lived
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Speaker 1: across the street from a Seventh Day Adventist church. It
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Speaker 1: was in Lancaster, Massachusetts. It was before I moved to
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Speaker 1: Clinton with my family, and we lived sort of in
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Speaker 1: the footprint of the Adventist church, the Seventh Day Adventist Church.
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Speaker 1: There was the church, but there was also like a
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Speaker 1: fairground or a campus. I'm not even exactly sure what
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Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, it was campus. Atlantic Union College was nearby,
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Speaker 1: and we kind of lived right in the middle of
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Speaker 1: all that. The church, though, was literally across the street
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Speaker 1: from our front door. And I remember this distinctly. One morning,
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Speaker 1: I was in my front yard, which was like a
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Speaker 1: postage stamp front yard, very very small front yard, and
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Speaker 1: across the street a blue camaro pulled up and about
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Speaker 1: four or five metal heads got out of that camaro
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Speaker 1: and they started to hang out in the front let's
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Speaker 1: call it a yard of the church. There was a
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Speaker 1: cement wall and it kind of jetted out from the
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Speaker 1: front yard of the church out to the street a
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Speaker 1: little bit, and there were some big, big trees there,
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Speaker 1: and they pulled right up these metal heads. They popped out.
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Speaker 1: They were blasting Ozzy Osbourne. I remember it distinctly. I
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Speaker 1: remember knowing who Ozzy Osbourne was at the time, I
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Speaker 1: remember the myths about Ozzy Osbourne, and I remember being
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Speaker 1: a little freaked out, probably a lot freaked out. I
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Speaker 1: was at this point. Like I said, it was nineteen
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Speaker 1: eighty three, I was in the third grade, and I
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Speaker 1: was actually very freaked out by Ozzy Osbourne. This was
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Speaker 1: bark at the Moon era. So this is the height
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Speaker 1: of kind of all of the kind of the height
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Speaker 1: of the Ozzy Osbourne rumor mill that was spreading around
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Speaker 1: schools about biting off the heads of animals and all that.
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Speaker 1: And I'll never forget this. One of the metal heads,
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Speaker 1: the one driving the car, got out of the camaro,
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Speaker 1: and they walked up to that front part of the
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Speaker 1: church that jetted out, and they got up on the
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Speaker 1: cement wall, and they got up onto the grass above it,
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Speaker 1: by the big trees, and they had a huge wooden cross.
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Speaker 1: They nailed it into the tree, kept Ozzie blaring, and
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Speaker 1: just proceeded to hang out. I don't know if they
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Speaker 1: were drinking beers, smoking weed. I certainly thought they were
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Speaker 1: doing all manner of that in my memory, I might
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Speaker 1: be remembering it differently, but I swear the cross that
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Speaker 1: they nailed into that tree, they hung it up and
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Speaker 1: it was upside down. Though I can't vouch for that.
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Speaker 1: That seems a little bit extreme, So let's just say
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Speaker 1: they nailed the cross into the tree that I remember.
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Speaker 1: You got to keep in mind what these metal heads
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Speaker 1: were like. This was the nineteen eighty three version of
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Speaker 1: a metal head, which was similar to Oh, if you've
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Speaker 1: ever seen that great movie Over the Edge, Matt Dylan's
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Speaker 1: first movie, and these it's not really about metal heads,
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Speaker 1: but that was kind of the kids in that movie,
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Speaker 1: that Matt Dylan movie, Over the Edge. I believe the director,
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Caplan, I believe he just died a couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks ago. Fantastic movie I wrote about Over the Edge
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Speaker 1: of my book pertaining to juvenile delinquency and Axel Rose.
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Speaker 1: These kids were badass, is my point. And again, the
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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three version of Badass, which was different than
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Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety three suburban version of Badass. I was scared,
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Speaker 1: full stop. These guys scared the hell out of it.
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Speaker 1: If you need another film reference, just think Kelly Leak
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Speaker 1: from Bad News Bears, think about five of those dudes, okay,
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Speaker 1: and again Ozzy Osbourne playing in the background, blaring. This
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Speaker 1: is one of my first introductions to Ozzie Osbourne musically, culturally.
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Speaker 1: Like I said, i'd heard of him. I don't remember
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Speaker 1: exactly how heard, the myths, the rumors, all that, but
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Speaker 1: this was it in real life. And this was my
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Speaker 1: own little kind of mini personal satanic panic of holy shit,
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Speaker 1: these guys are real and they're right here across the
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Speaker 1: street from my house, and they're nailing in crosses and
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Speaker 1: they're probably gonna fucking kill me. I didn't know what
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Speaker 1: was going on. I just knew it was nuts. And
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Speaker 1: these guys, like I said, were badass. Now, speaking of badass,
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Speaker 1: modern day badass, Ozzy Osbourne grew into an entirely different
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Speaker 1: caricature over the course of his life. He was, he
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Speaker 1: was lovable, he was not. I mean, I mean, he's
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Speaker 1: always badass, but you know what I'm saying, it wasn't
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Speaker 1: in the end, he wasn't scary. His wife, Sharon Osbourne,
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Speaker 1: on the other hand, completely different story. Now, I have
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Speaker 1: nothing but respect for Sharon Osbourne. You can hear that
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Speaker 1: in the Ozzy Osbourne episode of Disgraceland that we that
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Speaker 1: we produced and released a couple of years ago. But
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Speaker 1: make no miss about it, you did not fuck with
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Speaker 1: Sharon Osborne and you still don't. And the idea of
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Speaker 1: covering Sharon Osborne exclusively in an episode of Disgraceland, it
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Speaker 1: never occurred to me until now, until after Ozzie's death
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Speaker 1: in these past few weeks, Sharon Osborne by any definition,
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Speaker 1: is a music industry badass. Since her husband's death, a
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Speaker 1: lot of people have said a lot of things about
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Speaker 1: the Osborne's and there's this wild rumor percolating this week.
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Speaker 1: You know, we had this issue where there was this
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Speaker 1: BBC documentary that was supposed to air. It was supposed
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Speaker 1: to air a couple days ago. I'm recording this on
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Speaker 1: August twentieth, and then right before it was going to air,
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Speaker 1: like that day there might have been the day just
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Speaker 1: before it was, the BBC pulled it and they didn't
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Speaker 1: really give an explanation when they pulled it. They came
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Speaker 1: out about twenty four hours later and they said that
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Speaker 1: they pulled it at the behest of the family. The
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Speaker 1: family recommended, the Osborne's recommended that this documentary on Ozzy
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Speaker 1: did not air, So there's been, like I said, wild
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Speaker 1: rumors about why this documentary did not air. Reddit lit
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Speaker 1: up with ridiculous conjecture about Ozzy being canceled sometime in
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Speaker 1: the near future for sexual indiscretions from his past, which,
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Speaker 1: as someone who's done a fair amount of research on
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Speaker 1: the so called Prince of Darkness, these these are hot
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Speaker 1: to me anyways, highly dubious allegations. I'm confident saying that
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Speaker 1: I don't believe that these allegations about Ozzy being canceled
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Speaker 1: and some sort of me too thing, it's nothing but
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Speaker 1: trully Internet rumors. And this is what happens when a
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Speaker 1: dude as legendary as Ozzy Osbourne dies. The vultures start
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Speaker 1: circling the truth. It gets buried and the myth, well,
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Speaker 1: the myth can sometimes become a weapon. And you know
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Speaker 1: what I've been saying around here this is, you know,
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Speaker 1: nothing's getting buried here in disgrace, and we're here to
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Speaker 1: dig things up and ideally the truth and the truth
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Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean scandal, The truth doesn't necessarily mean rumors.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes the truth is just boring, but sometimes it's fucking
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Speaker 1: batchit crazy.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: One of the rumors that's popped up in the wake
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Speaker 1: of Ozzie's death and I want to get to I
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Speaker 1: want to get to the truth of the matter on
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Speaker 1: is that his wife, Sharon, who was also his fearsome
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Speaker 1: music manager, was allegedly party to an assisted suicide pact
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Speaker 1: with Ozzy, and this pact was carried out allegedly to
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Speaker 1: end her husband suffering from Parkinson's disease. Sharon Osbourne hasn't
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Speaker 1: commented on these rumors since Ozzie's death, but her daughter
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Speaker 1: Kelly did comment on this supposed pack just prior to
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Speaker 1: Ozzie dying, And now in a dark corner of the Internet,
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Speaker 1: we're seeing suggestions that this is all somehow tied to
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Speaker 1: the cancelation of this BBC documentary. So where Ozzy Osbourne
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Speaker 1: and Sharon Osbourne in a suicide pact? Was it euthanasia
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Speaker 1: that did Ozzy Osbourne in? Finally, at the end, Zeth
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Speaker 1: and I are going to go down the rabbit hole
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Speaker 1: on this story and into Sharon Osbourne's ruthless pat as
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Speaker 1: a music manager, a past with allegations that she stole
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Speaker 1: Ozzy's master tapes from Jet Records, allegations that she once
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Speaker 1: told Arrival she would bury him and his fucking kids,
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Speaker 1: and how she completely sabotaged and this is an allegation,
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Speaker 1: this is confirmed, how she sabotaged Iron Maiden on stage
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Speaker 1: for once fucking with her husband, with messing with Ozzie.
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Speaker 1: You can hear Zeth and I in this rabbit hole
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Speaker 1: in the exclusive section of this year After Party bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: the Truth behind Ozzie, Sharon and the supposed suicide pack.
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Speaker 1: It is murky, okay. There's a quote in Sharon's own
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Speaker 1: memoir that is pretty informative, her daughter Kelly. She's been
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Speaker 1: very public and being out there and denying this suicide pack.
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Speaker 1: There's again the BBC documentary poll that I mentioned, and
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Speaker 1: then there's some reports from the paramedics there at the
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Speaker 1: end with Ozzy that they inform I believe the truth
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Speaker 1: of this whole thing. We're going to get to the
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Speaker 1: in the exclusive section here of the After Party what
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Speaker 1: I'm now calling the exclusive rabbit hole where Zeth and
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Speaker 1: I are gonna dive in. I think we're gonna do
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Speaker 1: this every week. We're gonna try it today, see what happens,
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Speaker 1: See if we like it, See if you guys like it.
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Speaker 1: More importantly, we're gonna dive into Sharon Osbourne, her violent
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Speaker 1: family legacy, her business tactics that have been called quote
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Speaker 1: unquote ruthless, and what these euthanasia rumors really tell us
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Speaker 1: about fame, death and control. If you've ever wondered how
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Speaker 1: just about Ozzy Osbourne. This is about how stories get
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Speaker 1: told this is about how stories get buried. This is
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Speaker 1: about what's true what's not. And if you're listening to this,
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Speaker 1: then you know you are one of us. You listen
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland and you know things, So do not sit
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Speaker 1: this one out. I'll be back in a flash right
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Speaker 1: after this with your voicemails, your texts, your dms and more.
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Speaker 1: All right, we are back, guys this week in Disgrace Sland.
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Speaker 1: New episode on Motorhead. All right, check that out. It's
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Speaker 1: available for you right now wherever you listen to your podcast.
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Speaker 1: Coming up in the rewind slot. Right after this after
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Speaker 1: party bonus episode, We've got our Willie Nelson episodes parts
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Speaker 1: one two. Next week, our new episode will be on
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Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar. And because of this Kendrick Lamar story, we're
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Speaker 1: thinking about mercy.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 1: I know this is kind of an esoteric question for
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Speaker 1: next week, but when you're listening to that Kendrick episode,
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Speaker 1: be thinking about mercy, and specifically, be thinking about musical
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Speaker 1: artists who have demonstrated mercy. Now, I'm not talking about
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Speaker 1: Matt Boden's favorite metal band, Merciful Fate. I'm talking about artists,
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Speaker 1: rock stars, musicians who have shown mercy, who have shown forgiveness,
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Speaker 1: who have shown overwhelming acts of kindness, even six one
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Speaker 1: seven nine oh six sixty six three eight, voicemail and text,
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Speaker 1: get at me. Let me know which artists have shown
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Speaker 1: the greatest examples of mercy in their past in their songwriting.
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Speaker 1: I mean Marvin Gay, you know, obviously, if we want
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Speaker 1: to go to a literal route right there for you.
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Speaker 1: But I know there are others, and I know you
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Speaker 1: know about them. So call me up six one seven
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Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight and let me
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Speaker 1: know if you have voicemail in text. All right, you
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Speaker 1: guys know where I'm I'm here every week. I'm in
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Speaker 1: the phone booth. It's the one. It's the one that's
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Speaker 1: across the hall. I am hanging on the telephone. The
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Speaker 1: question of the week relative to our Motorhead episode that
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Speaker 1: we asked at the end of that Motorhead episode was
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Speaker 1: which concert from your youth was your most formative Now
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Speaker 1: we asked this obviously I go into detail on the
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Speaker 1: Motorhead episode about me seeing Motorhead Live, about me meeting
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Speaker 1: Lemmy as well, and it just seemed like an occasion
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Speaker 1: to ask this question. I love this question. Because everyone
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Speaker 1: likes talking about the first concerts that really left an
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Speaker 1: impression on them. Let's check out the two one seven.
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Speaker 3: Hey, Jake, this is Joe from two one seven doing
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Speaker 3: some work here, listening to your podcast, going to respond
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Speaker 3: to one of your extra episodes, and I stepped in
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Speaker 3: a bucket of paint. But anyway, back to if the
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Speaker 3: response is the first big influencial band that I've ever
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Speaker 3: seen live was ACDC on their Back and Black tour.
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Speaker 3: Believe it was nineteen eighty one, might have been nineteen
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Speaker 3: eighty Their backup band was Blackfoot. Was an incredible concert.
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Speaker 3: I was fourteenth time talk my mother into taking me.
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Speaker 3: And right now to an episode where you are saying
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Speaker 3: that you're one of your first albums that you got
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Speaker 3: was the ACDC and you went to see back in
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Speaker 3: Black or get the album back in Black and you
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Speaker 3: end up getting I think it was Letter D Rock. Anyway,
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Speaker 3: you can't.
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Speaker 4: Go wrong with any bond.
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Speaker 3: Scott, love your show, keep on doing what you're doing.
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Speaker 3: Love the way you incorporate songs of the artists into
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Speaker 3: the episode that you're talking about. Thanks for everything, man.
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Speaker 1: All right, Seeing ACDC two one seven on the Back
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Speaker 1: in Black tour is quite extraordinary. I am jealous. Sounds
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Speaker 1: like I'm a little younger than you. I didn't actually
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Speaker 1: see ACDC until eighty six on the Who Made Who
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Speaker 1: Tour and they were fantastic, And you convinced your mom
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Speaker 1: to take you. I convinced my dad to take me.
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Speaker 1: I didn't have to do much vincing my dad, like
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Speaker 1: Dacy DC, my dad knew they were the shit. Two
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Speaker 1: one seven, watch out for that bucket of paint and yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're right, it was. Let there be Rock, and thank
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Speaker 1: you for the shout out about incorporating the songs of
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Speaker 1: the artists. Guys, I think we're gonna what we're gonna
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Speaker 1: do for our Patreon listeners. We're going to be rolling
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Speaker 1: out some new tiers for you in the very near
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Speaker 1: future that it's gonna have a lot more content for
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Speaker 1: you to access. And in one of those tiers, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna start doing these weekly playlists based on the episode
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Speaker 1: from that week. So for example, this week with Motorhead,
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Speaker 1: and it wouldn't just be a Motorhead playlist, it would
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Speaker 1: be sort of everything that kind of goes into that story.
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Speaker 1: So any other songs that we mentioned, including the number
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Speaker 1: one song that we mentioned in the a bloc relative
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Speaker 1: to the Melotron loop, anything related to what inspired that
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Speaker 1: week subject, So what inspired let me or or you know,
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Speaker 1: we're there are other artists who went off and did solos.
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Speaker 1: You know, you know what I'm saying. It'll be a
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Speaker 1: complete sort of musical look to accompany the episode via
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Speaker 1: playlist on Spot and Apple Music. So we're going to
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Speaker 1: start to roll those out in a couple of weeks. Again,
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Speaker 1: that'll be part of the new new tiered offering in Patreon.
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Speaker 1: And sounds like we're making the right move because it
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Speaker 1: sounds like two one seven. You appreciate it when we
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Speaker 1: get into the actual songs here, we incorporate them into
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Speaker 1: the story. Of course, why wouldn't we. I'm just happy
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Speaker 1: to know that you're into it and happy to know
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Speaker 1: that we are circling the hole here and trying to
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Speaker 1: provide value for you guys. Let's check out Eli in
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Speaker 1: the five oh one.
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Speaker 5: Hey Jake, this is Eli from Arkansas calling from the
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Speaker 5: five oh one. Even though this is a four seven
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Speaker 5: nine number because I refuse to change my area code
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Speaker 5: because I'm not used to that yet. Even though I
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Speaker 5: live in a different part of Arkansas. Now you've literally
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Speaker 5: done every one of my favorite bands, now, the Replacements, Motorhead,
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Speaker 5: all you're missing soundsanzant. I hope that's coming down the
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Speaker 5: pike at some point, even the Cramps. I love what
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Speaker 5: you do man. The Motorhead episode. I was just gonna
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Speaker 5: say my favorite story about Lemmy in general. He was
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Speaker 5: the walk and tall, rock and roll fucking cowboy. And
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Speaker 5: when Dave Grohl first saw him at the Rainbow, he
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Speaker 5: didn't want to say anything to him or whatever, and
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Speaker 5: so he just walked past him going to the bathroom,
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Speaker 5: if I remember the story right, and I think he
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Speaker 5: finally mushed up the balls go and say hi to him,
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Speaker 5: And he walked up to him and the first thing
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Speaker 5: let me said to him was I'm sorry about your
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Speaker 5: friend talking about Kirt Copain of course, which is just
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Speaker 5: the most beautiful fucking thing in the world. You know,
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Speaker 5: like the guy had a heart and like that. That
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Speaker 5: just shows it, you know it. You know, never never
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Speaker 5: met the guy before, and they're both fellow whatever famous musicians,
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Speaker 5: but you know, just the amount of respect there for
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Speaker 5: Kurt Copan, it's just absolutely beautiful. So I just want
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Speaker 5: to throw that in there. Thanks for everything you do, man,
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Speaker 5: and also I'll fucking love their Replacements episode. They're my
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Speaker 5: favorite band of all time, literally next to Motorhead. So
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Speaker 5: thank you for everything, man, Rock Rolling Yili.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for the kind words. Appreciate you, man. Glad
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Speaker 1: you liked the Motorhead and Replacements episodes. We do have
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Speaker 1: a Towns van Zant episode that we produced for our
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Speaker 1: Patreon and Apple subscribers. Once that's been available exclusively for
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Speaker 1: a year, we will roll that out into the wide feed,
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Speaker 1: so that'll be coming on a couple months. But hey,
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Speaker 1: if you want it now, man, get in, get in
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Speaker 1: and become a member of already giving you enough information
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Speaker 1: on how to do that. Listen, Dave Grohl, the way
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Speaker 1: let me treated him there just perfect, just fucking perfect
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Speaker 1: class act. You're absolutely right, Matt gives the nine to
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Speaker 1: one six a spin.
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Speaker 4: Jake, It's mister Taylor from Raleigh, North Carolina, Colin about
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Speaker 4: first concert. My first concert. When I was ten years old,
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Speaker 4: my mom went and took me to see Jethro Toll
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Speaker 4: at the Whole Center in Eugene, Oregon. When they played
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Speaker 4: the Locomotive Breath, I rushed the stage and Ian Anderson
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Speaker 4: pointed at me, gave me a knowing not and since
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Speaker 4: it has kicked off a love of live music, and
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Speaker 4: now as a father of four, I think very intentionally
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Speaker 4: about how my kids are going to experience their first concert.
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Speaker 4: I want them to have that moment when they're in college,
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Speaker 4: you know, where they're older and they're meeting people for
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Speaker 4: the first time and they have that conversation about what
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Speaker 4: was your first concert? And I wanted to be a
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Speaker 4: band that is still around, the band that maybe they
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Speaker 4: can go see again later on in life. So my
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Speaker 4: eight year old's first concert when he was five was
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Speaker 4: my chemical romance, but really we were there to see
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Speaker 4: the opening band, Turnstile, which is him now his favorite band.
19:45
Speaker 4: I haven't pulled some strings, got us backstage, and he
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Speaker 4: got to meet the band. The boys could not have
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Speaker 4: been cooler. My six year old daughter's first concert when
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Speaker 4: she was five was Olivia Rodrigo. We flew to Washington,
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Speaker 4: d C. Before the show. I remember she spent a
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Speaker 4: half hour gluing gems to my faith. It was a
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Speaker 4: great moment between the two of us and an amazing concert.
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Speaker 4: And now my four year old and I are having
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Speaker 4: that conversation about what concert she wants to see when
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Speaker 4: she's five. So just a big moment for anybody. Really
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Speaker 4: excited to share that with my kids and foster a
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Speaker 4: lifelong love of live music, love the show. I'll tell
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Speaker 4: you how it all turns out in ten fifteen years
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Speaker 4: when my kids are older, because I'm sure you'll be
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Speaker 4: doing something here somewhere else, and I'm definitely gonna be listening.
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Speaker 4: Love a Brother Rock and Roller.
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Speaker 1: Nine one six. When you talk about rushing the stage
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Speaker 1: and making eye contact with Ian Anderson, when you're a
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Speaker 1: kid and you're at your first show, there's just there's
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Speaker 1: nothing more thrilling than feeling like you've made a connection
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Speaker 1: with the artist in a live situation. Harder for dudes
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Speaker 1: than it is for women. I've been to shows with
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Speaker 1: my wife even now, she's just staring up there on stage,
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Speaker 1: dude to just you know, laser beaming in. I get it,
21:03
Speaker 1: I totally get it. But when you're a little kid,
21:06
Speaker 1: I remember going to see Metallica and my god, I
21:09
Speaker 1: was older, I was in high school and and Justice
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Speaker 1: for All tour, and I got really close, got up
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Speaker 1: to like the third row, and I just remember like
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Speaker 1: they looked so human to me, you know, it was
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Speaker 1: the first time like that. I was like, Wow, these
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Speaker 1: guys are real. They're moving around in front of me,
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Speaker 1: and I think I would have like thrown up or
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Speaker 1: something if Kirk Hammit or James Hetfield made eye contact
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Speaker 1: with me. I don't remember them doing so what I
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Speaker 1: do remember being that close and just wow. So I
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Speaker 1: get it. Nine one six. I get what you're talking about,
21:37
Speaker 1: and good luck with your kids. Sounds like you're doing
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Speaker 1: the right thing. I love the Turnstile story.
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Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I think for your your four year old,
21:43
Speaker 1: I think you just gotta for her show, her first show.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what she's into, but just bringing to
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Speaker 1: Metallica at the Sphere. Do that? That should be the
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Speaker 1: first show Metallica at the Sphere for your four year
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Speaker 1: old's first show when she's five, assuming it happens next year.
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Speaker 1: If not, wait until she just that will be epic, right,
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Speaker 1: rock a roll in nine one six. All right, let's
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Speaker 1: do some text six one seven, nine oh six six
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Speaker 1: six three eight guys voicemailtain text you want to get
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Speaker 1: at me on anything?
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Speaker 3: Really?
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Speaker 1: But next week's question of the Week Mercy, Which musicians,
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Speaker 1: which rock stars, Which artists? Have shown the most demonstrated
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Speaker 1: version of mercy or forgiveness or kindness. All right, let's
22:21
Speaker 1: flip the script a little here. Always talking about transgressions
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Speaker 1: and bad shit. Let's talk about some good stuff, some PMA.
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Speaker 1: All right. In the meantime, let's check out this text
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Speaker 1: from the six one five. Hey, I not only lived
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Speaker 1: in Nashville, but I lived in Clinton, mass I ran
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Speaker 1: a store and rent them. Also lived in Norwich, Connecticut.
22:40
Speaker 1: So I got all the inferences from the Alex rockopod.
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Speaker 1: She's talking about the Hollywood Land episode we did this week.
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Speaker 1: This is us Susan, formerly from the six one five.
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Speaker 1: She said, Susan, when did you live in Clinton? Text
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Speaker 1: me back and let me know. I wonder if we
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Speaker 1: lived there at the same time. Susan goes on, Honestly,
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Speaker 1: I do appreciate your story about meeting Lemmy. So this
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Speaker 1: dive bar we used to go do when Kenny Chesney
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Speaker 1: would sit in us hang out with us because he
23:01
Speaker 1: was a nobody then. I wasn't into country music. Oh
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Speaker 1: you played for George Straight. I'm sorry, who's that? But
23:06
Speaker 1: Fred Curry and Tom Keefer walked in one night and
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Speaker 1: I told my friend, oh MG, that's Cinderella and we
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Speaker 1: played pool with them all night. That's pretty cool. What
23:15
Speaker 1: am I playing pool with Cinderella? Did you ever see Cinderella?
23:18
Speaker 3: Though?
23:18
Speaker 1: I haven't. I thought Cinderella were gonna be huge. They weren't.
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Speaker 1: Uh four two five text in Hey Jake, it's Jules
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Speaker 1: from the four two five. My first concert in the
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Speaker 1: early seventies was Alice Cooper and Susie Quatro. Was the
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Speaker 1: opening for them in Los Angeles. It was insane. What
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Speaker 1: a show. Never looked back and started going to concerts
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Speaker 1: from age fifteen on Rock co Rolla. Loved the show.
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Speaker 1: Damn set you on your way right Alice Cooper and
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Speaker 1: Susie Quatro. You gotta be kidding me. Pretty incredible. Eight
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Speaker 1: five six, Hey Mark from the eight five six. First
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Speaker 1: show is Arrosmith with skid Row opening, sound and volume
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Speaker 1: of the drums blew me away. But my second show
23:55
Speaker 1: was Slayer, Megadeth and Anthrax at the Spectrum in Philly
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Speaker 1: in ninety two with Alison Chains opening. What a lineup?
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Speaker 1: Alison Chains, Slayer, Megadeth and Anthrax blazing from opener to
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Speaker 1: Slayer closing is what the eight five six says I've
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Speaker 1: seen Slayer and Alison Chains. I see Alison Chains, I
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Speaker 1: can't remember. I don't think I've ever seen Megadeth or Anthrax,
24:20
Speaker 1: but I saw Slayer with Motorhead. I mentioned that a
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Speaker 1: lot six one seven nine six, six, six three eight.
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Speaker 1: You guys, want to get at us about anything related
24:28
Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, hit us up via voicemail and text, and
24:32
Speaker 1: remember the question of the week next week when you're
24:34
Speaker 1: listening to that Kendrick Lamar episode which artists best demonstrated mercy,
24:39
Speaker 1: let us know get at us six one seven nine
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Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight. I'm gonna take a
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Speaker 1: quick break. I'll be back in a flash. All right,
25:00
Speaker 1: we are back. Listen, guys, hollywood Land got a great
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Speaker 1: episode this week. Go check that out. It's on Alex Rocco.
25:06
Speaker 1: I swear I'm not gonna call him Moroka in this
25:09
Speaker 1: episode of The After Party, despite having said it numerous
25:12
Speaker 1: times and the Hollywoodland Rap Party. This is one of
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Speaker 1: my favorite episodes just because of the connection between Alex
25:19
Speaker 1: Rocco and Boston in Somerville, Massachusetts, and the connection to,
25:24
Speaker 1: of course, The Godfather, one of my favorite movies of
25:27
Speaker 1: all time. One of your favorite movies of all time. Hollywoodland,
25:29
Speaker 1: for those of you who do not know, is our
25:31
Speaker 1: Hollywood and true crime podcast that I host, and every
25:35
Speaker 1: week we do a bonus episode like this one in
25:37
Speaker 1: the hollywood Land Feed. In addition to the full episode,
25:39
Speaker 1: we do a bonus episode with Zeth and I. Zeth
25:42
Speaker 1: really takes the helm on the rap party. Matt give
25:45
Speaker 1: him a little clip, Jake, what music res inspired by
25:49
Speaker 1: Alex Rocco? Are you bringing today? I got admit I
25:53
Speaker 1: completely fucked up and I did Morocco recommendations we're going to.
25:59
Speaker 1: I was wondering why this was so hard. Alex Roka,
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Speaker 1: Alex Roca Okay, I think, Oh Roco Rocko, Yeah, fuck,
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Speaker 1: that's right, that's right, mo Roca. Oh, I can't I
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Speaker 1: do this right? I did do Okay, So I screwed
26:14
Speaker 1: up already I did. I literally did. Alex Roca, even
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Speaker 1: though it's Alex Rocco got me to Alex Roca Roca Rolla, Okay,
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Speaker 1: RockA Rolla all right? The sign off from Disgraceland, one
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Speaker 1: of the hundred greatest podcasts of all time. I just
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Speaker 1: found out. We'll talk more about that in disgrace Land.
26:31
Speaker 1: RockA Rolla. People have often asked me, and I tell
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Speaker 1: them this answer, and I get very little feedback from it.
26:38
Speaker 1: But it's from the Judas Priest song RockA Rolla from
26:42
Speaker 1: their debut album nineteen seventy fours rock a Rolla. The
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Speaker 1: song is incredible. I you know, I knew the song
26:51
Speaker 1: when I started recording Disgraceland and writing Disgraced. I had
26:54
Speaker 1: no intention of using that as a sign off. It's
26:56
Speaker 1: just something that came to mind and I said it immediately,
26:59
Speaker 1: and I just without any thought, I said it, and
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Speaker 1: I just kept saying it. Well, now rock a roller
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Speaker 1: which I highly highly recommend as a song. It's great,
27:10
Speaker 1: it's Juis Priests, it's got harmonica, it's so fucking good.
27:12
Speaker 1: And anyways, it's a big part of all the best
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Speaker 1: the seventies albums are wild when they don't really quite
27:19
Speaker 1: know what they're doing yet. Yeah, it's great. All right.
27:23
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Speaker 1: sixty second Sports Rant and Under thirty Seconds, and I
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Speaker 1: am all keyed up, and not just because I've been
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Speaker 1: drinking five Hour Energy. I am keyed up because what
27:50
Speaker 1: the hell are the Red Sox doing? For real? All right, Matt, Matt,
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Speaker 1: brother up with that buzzer beater. Listen, the Boston Red
28:23
Speaker 1: Sox have lost three in a row. Looking up at
28:27
Speaker 1: the Yankees again, I don't even know where to I'm
28:29
Speaker 1: beside myself here. I feel like we got a series
28:33
Speaker 1: coming up this weekend with the New York Yankees. This
28:35
Speaker 1: is potentially a season defining series. The Red Sox really
28:39
Speaker 1: need to get off the snide. Now, am I confident? No?
28:42
Speaker 1: Is it because the Red Sox don't have enough pitching?
28:45
Speaker 1: Is it because they can't hit their way out of
28:47
Speaker 1: extra innings? No? And no? Is it because I'm afraid
28:51
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball is gonna do something stupid like implement
28:53
Speaker 1: a time saving ghost runner man dude on second to
28:57
Speaker 1: augment their ridiculous extra innings starting on second rule that
29:01
Speaker 1: they have. Now, No, that's not why I'm not confident.
29:04
Speaker 1: You know why I'm not confident. I'm gonna tell you why.
29:07
Speaker 1: Because the Red Sox lack killers. Now, that's as I say,
29:10
Speaker 1: they don't have any killers. They do, they have a couple,
29:14
Speaker 1: but they don't have enough, not enough to win a
29:16
Speaker 1: World series, not right now. And I go back to
29:18
Speaker 1: the trade dead I'm not gonna do it, but I do.
29:19
Speaker 1: I go back to the trade deadline. Listen, to win
29:22
Speaker 1: a World series, you need baseball players with ice water
29:26
Speaker 1: in their veins, killing machine late inning assassins. And aside
29:31
Speaker 1: from Chapman and Bragman, where is the steely eyed, can't
29:35
Speaker 1: be shook killer attitude on these players that I'm watching
29:39
Speaker 1: in extra innings now in the regular season where they
29:43
Speaker 1: don't have it now, they're not gonna have it in
29:44
Speaker 1: the championship. These last few games against the Baltimore Frickin'
29:48
Speaker 1: Orioles have proven to me that this is what is
29:51
Speaker 1: most needed out of this squad. And if they're gonna
29:53
Speaker 1: pass the Yankees, who, like I said, they're now looking
29:56
Speaker 1: up at in the standings, I don't I don't know
29:59
Speaker 1: that they can do it without augmenting the team in
30:02
Speaker 1: some way or someone you're one of the younger players
30:04
Speaker 1: stepping up. They might be too young, they might be
30:08
Speaker 1: too green, they might be too happy, they might be
30:10
Speaker 1: too nice. I don't know. They're too something. But they're
30:14
Speaker 1: not killer enough. And I hope I'm wrong, Matt, How'd
30:17
Speaker 1: I do?
30:18
Speaker 6: Sorry? Jake one fifty five this week wondering if maybe
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Speaker 6: we should consider maybe renaming the segment thirty second sports
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Speaker 6: ran under two and a half minutes or something.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I just get a maybe
30:31
Speaker 1: I don't have killer instinct. Maybe maybe I should take
30:36
Speaker 1: some of my own medicine here. Maybe I should Uh,
30:39
Speaker 1: I should go back to the drawing board, I should go,
30:41
Speaker 1: I should get you. Go back to the to the research,
30:45
Speaker 1: the analytics, try to figure this out. Try to try
30:47
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31:08
Speaker 1: speaking of killer instincts, as a music manager, Sharon Osborne
31:12
Speaker 1: certainly had that quality, and so did her father, Don Arden.
31:16
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into both, along with the Ozzy Osbourne
31:18
Speaker 1: us in Asia rumors that have cropped up in the
31:21
Speaker 1: Bonus rabbit Hole section of this After Party. What's that? Well, listen,
31:24
Speaker 1: it's this new segment we're doing. I don't know that's
31:27
Speaker 1: gonna join me now. I think we're just gonna I
31:29
Speaker 1: want to figure out this Elliott Smith thing we did
31:31
Speaker 1: last week and Al Jackson Junior. You know, oftentimes Zeth
31:34
Speaker 1: and I are just calling each other, texting each other,
31:36
Speaker 1: emailing each other all day every day, asking are there
31:39
Speaker 1: is there enough here for this story? On this artist
31:42
Speaker 1: on this episode. I thought, why don't we just do
31:44
Speaker 1: it here in the bonus section. We'll climb into the
31:46
Speaker 1: rabbit hole. We'll do it in real time with you guys.
31:50
Speaker 1: You can chime in whether you think there's enough here
31:51
Speaker 1: on an episode or not. And we're gonna start today
31:55
Speaker 1: with the Sharon Osbourne thing. We might end it today too.
31:57
Speaker 1: If it doesn't work, if you guys aren't into it,
31:59
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see. But if it's something cool,
32:02
Speaker 1: we'll keep doing it. Man, We'll do it next week
32:03
Speaker 1: and we'll just do it on and on and on.
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Speaker 1: every month. All right, Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.
32:47
Speaker 1: We are back the vault. Let's get into the vault.
32:50
Speaker 1: Let's crack open the vault. We talked a lot in
32:52
Speaker 1: this episode, mainly in the exclusive portion about some Disgraceland
32:56
Speaker 1: featured artists. We mentioned Keith Moon, we mentioned Jimmy Pay,
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Speaker 1: We mentioned ac DC and Dave Grohl earlier I think
33:03
Speaker 1: back in the C block when we're taking calls. All
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Speaker 1: those artists have disgrace Land episodes existing in our massive
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Speaker 1: archive of over two hundred and thirty episodes. Matt will
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Speaker 1: have the episode information for you in the show notes
33:19
Speaker 1: of this bonus episode, so you can easily find those stories.
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Speaker 1: Should you be interested, and why shouldn't you be? They're
33:25
Speaker 1: pretty good stories. You can want to check them out.
33:27
Speaker 1: All right, I gotta get out of here, so let's
33:28
Speaker 1: recap real quick. Number one this week, our full episode
33:31
Speaker 1: on Motorhead is available right now wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Speaker 1: Coming up next in your feed on Friday, We've got
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Speaker 1: two episodes on Willie Nelson Part one and Part two
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Speaker 1: next week, and this is number three next week, Kendrick Lamar,
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Speaker 1: our new episode on Kendrick Lamar, that's coming your way.
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Speaker 1: Number four on Hollywood Land right now, Alex Rocko, that's
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Speaker 1: our story. Go check that out. Number five six one
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Speaker 1: seven nine oh six six six three eight your voice
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Speaker 1: keeps this show dangerous. Your voice helps us find what
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Speaker 1: gup buried. Keep texting, keep calling, help us reclaim the
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Speaker 1: stories they never wanted us to tell in the first place.
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Speaker 1: Number six, don't forget discos. This isn't just content. It's
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Speaker 1: a community, a community of the obsessed. No one cares
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Speaker 1: about music, books, records in the crime and grime. It
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Speaker 1: ties them all together like you do. And well that
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Speaker 1: is a disgrace, all right. Our patron saint of speed freaks,
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Speaker 1: lem Me from Motorhead, passed away on December twenty, twenty fifteen.
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Speaker 1: Here's what America was listening to on that day, as
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Speaker 1: demonstrated by the Billboard charts. Number one, Hello Adele last
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Speaker 1: week one, peak position one weeks on Chart seven. Number
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Speaker 1: two Sorry Justin Bieber last week two, peak position one,
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Speaker 1: two weeks on chart seven, number one. Number three, Hotline
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Speaker 1: Blink Drake last week three, peak position two weeks on
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Speaker 1: Chart nineteen. Number four what do you mean Berg? Last
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Speaker 1: week's on peak position one, number one weeks on Shark fifty.
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Speaker 1: Number five, I love your.
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Speaker 2: Son, Justin last last Saturn peak position seek so.
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Speaker 1: Quit talking and start mixing.
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Speaker 6: Cout