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- 0:00Speaker 1: Chapters one through ten of Against Celsus, Book One by Origin,
- 0:04Speaker 1: translated by Frederick Crombie. This LibriVox recording is in the
- 0:08Speaker 1: public domain. Read by David Ronald. The first point which
- 0:13Speaker 1: Celsus springs forward in his desire to throw discredit upon
- 0:16Speaker 1: Christianity is that the Christians entered into secret associations with
- 0:21Speaker 1: each other contrary to law, saying that quote of associations,
- 0:26Speaker 1: some are public, and that these are in accordance with
- 0:29Speaker 1: the laws, others again secret and maintained in violation of
- 0:33Speaker 1: the laws end quote. And his wish is to bring
- 0:37Speaker 1: into disrepute what are termed the quote love feasts end
- 0:42Speaker 1: quote of the Christians, as if they had their origin
- 0:46Speaker 1: in the common danger and were more binding than any oaths.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Since then he babbles about the public law, alleging that
- 0:55Speaker 1: the associations of the Christians are in violation of it.
- 0:58Speaker 1: We have to reply that if a man were placed
- 1:01Speaker 1: among Scythians whose laws were unholy, and having no opportunity
- 1:06Speaker 1: of escape, were compelled to live among them, such an
- 1:09Speaker 1: one would, with good reason for the sake of the
- 1:12Speaker 1: law of truth, which the Scythians would regard as wickedness,
- 1:16Speaker 1: enter into associations contrary to their laws with those like
- 1:20Speaker 1: minded with himself. So, if truth is to decide, the
- 1:24Speaker 1: laws of the Heathens, which relate to images and an
- 1:27Speaker 1: atheistical polytheism, are quote Scythian end quote laws, or more
- 1:33Speaker 1: impious even than these, if there be any such, it
- 1:37Speaker 1: is not irrational then to form associations in opposition to
- 1:41Speaker 1: existing laws, if done for the sake of truth, for
- 1:44Speaker 1: those persons would do well. Who should enter into a
- 1:47Speaker 1: secret association in order to put to death a tyrant
- 1:51Speaker 1: who had seized upon the liberties of a state. So
- 1:54Speaker 1: Christians also, when tyrannized over by him who is called
- 1:58Speaker 1: the Devil, and by false form leagues contrary to the
- 2:02Speaker 1: laws of the Devil, against his power, and for the
- 2:05Speaker 1: safety of those others whom they may succeed in persuading
- 2:09Speaker 1: to revolt from a government which is, as it were,
- 2:12Speaker 1: scythian and despotic. Celsus next proceeds to say that the
- 2:17Speaker 1: system of doctrine viz. Judaism upon which Christianity depends was
- 2:22Speaker 1: barbarous in its origin, and with an appearance of fairness,
- 2:26Speaker 1: he does not reproach Christianity because of its origin among Barbarians,
- 2:31Speaker 1: but gives the latter credit for their ability in discovering
- 2:34Speaker 1: such doctrines. To this, however, he adds the statement that
- 2:38Speaker 1: the Greeks are more skillful than any others in judging, establishing,
- 2:43Speaker 1: and reducing to practice the discoveries of barbarious nations. Now,
- 2:47Speaker 1: this is our answer to his allegations and our defense
- 2:51Speaker 1: of the truths contained in Christianity, that if any one
- 2:55Speaker 1: were to come from the study of Grecian opinions and
- 2:58Speaker 1: usages to the Gospel, he would not only decide that
- 3:01Speaker 1: its doctrines were true, but would by practice establish their truth,
- 3:06Speaker 1: and supply whatever seemed wanting from aggression point of view
- 3:10Speaker 1: to their demonstration, and thus confirm the truth of Christianity.
- 3:14Speaker 1: We have to say moreover, that the Gospel has a
- 3:17Speaker 1: demonstration of its own, more divine than any established by
- 3:21Speaker 1: Gretchen dialects. And this diviner method is called by the
- 3:24Speaker 1: apostle the manifestation of the Spirit and of power of
- 3:29Speaker 1: this spirit. On account of the prophecies which are sufficient
- 3:32Speaker 1: to produce faith in any one who reads them, especially
- 3:36Speaker 1: in those things which relate to Christ, and of power,
- 3:39Speaker 1: because of the signs and wonders which we must believe
- 3:42Speaker 1: to have been performed, both on many other grounds, and
- 3:45Speaker 1: on this that traces of them are still preserved among
- 3:49Speaker 1: those who regulate their lives by the precepts of the Gospel.
- 3:54Speaker 1: After this, Celsus proceeding to speak of the Christians teaching
- 3:57Speaker 1: and practicing their favorite doctrines in secrets, and saying that
- 4:01Speaker 1: they do this to some purpose, seeing they escape the
- 4:04Speaker 1: penalty of death which is imminent. He compares their dangers
- 4:07Speaker 1: with those which were encountered by such men as Socrates
- 4:12Speaker 1: for the sake of philosophy. And here he might have
- 4:14Speaker 1: mentioned Pythagoras as well, and other philosophers. But our answer
- 4:19Speaker 1: to this is that in the case of Socrates, the
- 4:22Speaker 1: Athenians immediately afterwards repented, and no feeling of bitterness remained
- 4:27Speaker 1: in their minds regarding him, as also happened in the
- 4:30Speaker 1: history of Pythagoras. The followers of the latter indeed, for
- 4:34Speaker 1: a considerable time established their schools in that part of
- 4:37Speaker 1: Italy called Magna Graecia. But in the case of the Christians,
- 4:42Speaker 1: the Roman senate and the princes of the time, and
- 4:45Speaker 1: the soldiery and the people and the relatives of those
- 4:49Speaker 1: who had become converts to the faith made war upon
- 4:52Speaker 1: their doctrine, and would have prevented its progress, overcoming it
- 4:56Speaker 1: by a confederacy of so powerful a nature, had it not,
- 5:00Speaker 1: by the help of God, escaped danger and risen above it,
- 5:04Speaker 1: so as finally to defeat the whole world in its
- 5:06Speaker 1: conspiracy against it. Let us notice also how he thinks
- 5:10Speaker 1: to cast discredit upon our system of morals, alleging that
- 5:14Speaker 1: it is only common to us with other philosophers, and
- 5:18Speaker 1: no venerable or new branch of instruction, in reply to
- 5:22Speaker 1: which we have to say that, unless all men had
- 5:25Speaker 1: naturally impressed upon their minds sound ideas of morality, the
- 5:29Speaker 1: doctrine of the punishment of sinners would have been excluded
- 5:32Speaker 1: by those who bring upon themselves the righteous judgments of God.
- 5:36Speaker 1: It is not, therefore, a matter of surprise that the
- 5:39Speaker 1: same God should have sown in the hearts of all
- 5:42Speaker 1: men those truths which He taught by the prophets and
- 5:45Speaker 1: the Savior, in order that at the divine judgment every
- 5:49Speaker 1: man may be without excuse having the requirements of the
- 5:53Speaker 1: law written upon his heart, a truth obscurely alluded to
- 5:56Speaker 1: by the Bible. In what the Greeks regard as a myth,
- 6:00Speaker 1: where it represents God as having with his own finger
- 6:03Speaker 1: written down the commandments and given them to Moses, and
- 6:07Speaker 1: which the wickedness of the worshippers of the calf made
- 6:10Speaker 1: him break in pieces, as if the flood of wickedness,
- 6:13Speaker 1: so to speak, had swept them away. But Moses, having
- 6:17Speaker 1: again hewn tables of stone, God wrote the commandments a
- 6:20Speaker 1: second time and gave them to him the prophetic word,
- 6:24Speaker 1: preparing the soul, as it were, after the first transgression,
- 6:28Speaker 1: for the writing of God a second time. Treating of
- 6:31Speaker 1: the regulations respecting idolatry as being peculiar to Christianity, Celsus
- 6:36Speaker 1: establishes their correctness, saying that the Christians do not consider
- 6:40Speaker 1: those to be gods that are made with hands, on
- 6:43Speaker 1: the ground that it is not in conformity with right
- 6:46Speaker 1: reason to suppose that images fashioned by the most worthless
- 6:49Speaker 1: and depraved of workmen, and in many instances also provided
- 6:54Speaker 1: by wicked men, can be regarded as gods. In what follows, however,
- 6:58Speaker 1: wishing to show that this is a common opinion and
- 7:02Speaker 1: when not first discovered by Christianity, he quotes a saying
- 7:05Speaker 1: of Heraclitus to this effect quote, that those who draw
- 7:09Speaker 1: nearer to lifeless images as if they were gods act
- 7:13Speaker 1: in a similar manner to those who would enter into
- 7:15Speaker 1: conversation with houses end quote. Respecting this, then we have
- 7:21Speaker 1: to say that ideas were implanted in the minds of men,
- 7:25Speaker 1: like the principles of morality, from which not only Heracleitus,
- 7:29Speaker 1: but any other Greek or Barbarian might, by reflection, have
- 7:33Speaker 1: deduced the same conclusion. For he states that the Persians
- 7:37Speaker 1: also were of the same opinion, quoting Herodotus as his authority.
- 7:42Speaker 1: We also can add to these Zeno of Sithium, who
- 7:46Speaker 1: in his polity says, quote, and there will be no
- 7:50Speaker 1: need to build temples, for nothing ought to be regarded
- 7:53Speaker 1: as sacred, or of much value or holy, which is
- 7:57Speaker 1: the work of builders and of mean men. It is evident, then,
- 8:02Speaker 1: with respect to this opinion, as well as others, that
- 8:06Speaker 1: there has been engraven upon the hearts of men by
- 8:09Speaker 1: the finger of God, as sense of duty that is required.
- 8:13Speaker 1: After this, through the influence of some motive which is
- 8:16Speaker 1: unknown to me, Celsus asserts that it is by the
- 8:20Speaker 1: names of certain demons and by the use of incantations,
- 8:23Speaker 1: that the Christians appear to be possessed of miraculous power,
- 8:27Speaker 1: hinting I suppose at the practices of those who expel
- 8:30Speaker 1: evil spirits by incantations. And here he manifestly appears to
- 8:35Speaker 1: malign the Gospel. For it is not by incantations that
- 8:38Speaker 1: Christians seem to prevail over evil spirits, but by the
- 8:41Speaker 1: name of Jesus, accompanied by the announcement of the narratives
- 8:45Speaker 1: which relate to him. For the repetition of these has
- 8:49Speaker 1: frequently been the means of driving demons out of men,
- 8:52Speaker 1: especially when those who repeated them did so in a
- 8:56Speaker 1: sound and genuinely believing spirit. Such power, indeed does the
- 9:00Speaker 1: name of Jesus possess over evil spirits, that there have
- 9:04Speaker 1: been instances where it was effectual when it was pronounced,
- 9:07Speaker 1: even by bad men, which Jesus himself taught would be
- 9:11Speaker 1: the case when he said, many shall say to me
- 9:15Speaker 1: in that day, in thy name, we have cast out
- 9:18Speaker 1: devils and done many wonderful works. Whether Celsus omitted this
- 9:22Speaker 1: from intentional malignity or from ignorance, I do not know.
- 9:26Speaker 1: And he next proceeds to bring a charge against the
- 9:28Speaker 1: Savior himself, alleging that it was by means of sorcery,
- 9:31Speaker 1: that he was able to accomplish the wonders which he performed,
- 9:35Speaker 1: and that, foreseeing that others would attain the same knowledge
- 9:38Speaker 1: and do the same things, making a boast of doing
- 9:41Speaker 1: them by help of the power of God, he excludes
- 9:44Speaker 1: such from his kingdom. And his accusation is that if
- 9:48Speaker 1: they are justly excluded, while he himself is guilty of
- 9:51Speaker 1: the same practices, he is a wicked man. But if
- 9:54Speaker 1: he is not guilty of wickedness in doing such things,
- 9:57Speaker 1: neither are they who do the same as he. But
- 10:00Speaker 1: even if it be impossible to show by what power
- 10:03Speaker 1: Jesus wrought these miracles, it is clear that Christians employ
- 10:07Speaker 1: no spells or incantations, but the simple name of Jesus
- 10:11Speaker 1: and certain other words in which they repose faith according
- 10:14Speaker 1: to the Holy Scriptures. Moreover, since he frequently calls the
- 10:18Speaker 1: Christian doctrine a secret system of belief, we must confute
- 10:22Speaker 1: him on this point. Also, since almost the entire world
- 10:25Speaker 1: is better acquainted with what Christians preach than with the
- 10:29Speaker 1: favorite opinions of philosophers, for whose ignorant of the statement
- 10:32Speaker 1: that Jesus was born of a virgin and that he
- 10:35Speaker 1: was crucified, and that his resurrection is an article of
- 10:38Speaker 1: faith among many, and that a general judgment is announced
- 10:41Speaker 1: to come, in which the wicked are to be punished
- 10:43Speaker 1: according to their deserts, and the righteous to be duly rewarded.
- 10:47Speaker 1: And yet the mystery of the resurrection not being understood
- 10:51Speaker 1: is made a subject of ridicule among unbelievers in these circumstances.
- 10:55Speaker 1: To speak of the Christian doctrine as a secret system
- 10:59Speaker 1: is altogether of s. But that there should be certain
- 11:02Speaker 1: doctrines not made known to the multitude, which are revealed
- 11:06Speaker 1: after the exoteric ones have been taught, is not a
- 11:09Speaker 1: peculiarity of Christianity alone, but also of the philosophic systems,
- 11:14Speaker 1: in which certain truths are exoteric and others esoteric. Some
- 11:19Speaker 1: of the hearers of Pythagoras were content with his ipsey dixit,
- 11:23Speaker 1: while others were taught in secret those doctrines which were
- 11:27Speaker 1: not deemed fit to be communicated to profane in insufficiently
- 11:30Speaker 1: prepared ears. Moreover all, the mysteries that are celebrated everywhere
- 11:35Speaker 1: throughout Greece and barbarous counties, although held in secret, have
- 11:40Speaker 1: no discredit thrown upon them. So that it is vain
- 11:43Speaker 1: that he endeavors to caluminate the secret doctrines of Christianity,
- 11:47Speaker 1: seeing he does not correctly understand its nature. It is
- 11:51Speaker 1: with a certain eloquence, indeed, that he appears to advocate
- 11:55Speaker 1: the cause of those who bear witness to the truth
- 11:58Speaker 1: of Christianity by their death in the following words quote
- 12:01Speaker 1: and I do not maintain that if a man who
- 12:04Speaker 1: has adopted a system of good doctrine is to incur
- 12:07Speaker 1: a danger from men on that account, he should either
- 12:10Speaker 1: apostize or feign apostasy, or openly deny his opinions. End
- 12:15Speaker 1: quote and he condemns those who, while holding the Christian views,
- 12:19Speaker 1: either pretend that they do not or deny them, saying
- 12:23Speaker 1: that quote he who holds a certain opinion are not
- 12:27Speaker 1: too feign recantation or publicly disown it. End quote and
- 12:31Speaker 1: here Celsus must be convicted of self contradiction, for from
- 12:35Speaker 1: other treatises of his it is ascertained that he was
- 12:39Speaker 1: an Epicurean, but here because he thought that he could
- 12:42Speaker 1: assail Christianity with better effect by not professing the opinions
- 12:45Speaker 1: of Epicurius. He pretends that there is something better in
- 12:49Speaker 1: man than the earthly part of his nature, which is
- 12:53Speaker 1: aChn to God, and says that quote they in whom
- 12:56Speaker 1: this element viz. The soul, is in a healthy can condition,
- 13:00Speaker 1: our ever seeking after their kindred nature, meaning God, and
- 13:04Speaker 1: are ever desiring to hear something about him and to
- 13:07Speaker 1: call it to remembrance end quote. Observed now the insincerity
- 13:12Speaker 1: of his character. Having said a little before that quote,
- 13:16Speaker 1: the man who had embraced a system of good doctrine,
- 13:19Speaker 1: ought not, even if exposed a danger on that account
- 13:22Speaker 1: from men, to disavow it or pretend that he had
- 13:25Speaker 1: done so, nor yet openly disown it. End quote. He
- 13:28Speaker 1: now involves himself in all manner of contradictions, for he
- 13:32Speaker 1: knew that if he acknowledged himself an Epicurean, he would
- 13:35Speaker 1: not obtain any credit when accusing those who in any
- 13:39Speaker 1: degree introduced the doctrine of providence and who place a
- 13:42Speaker 1: God over the world. And we have heard that there
- 13:45Speaker 1: were two individuals of the name of Celsus, both of
- 13:49Speaker 1: whom were Epicureans, the earlier of the two having lived
- 13:52Speaker 1: in the time of Nero, but this one and that
- 13:55Speaker 1: of Adrian and later. He next proceeds to recommend that
- 13:59Speaker 1: in adopted opinions, we should follow reason and a rational guide,
- 14:03Speaker 1: since he who assents to opinions without following this course
- 14:06Speaker 1: is very liable to be deceived. And he compares and
- 14:09Speaker 1: considerate believers to Metrogeierte and soothsayers, and milthray and sabadeans,
- 14:16Speaker 1: and to anything else that one may fall in with,
- 14:19Speaker 1: and to the phantoms of Hakati or any other demon
- 14:23Speaker 1: or demons, For as amongst such persons are frequently to
- 14:26Speaker 1: be found wicked men, who, taking advantage of the ignorance
- 14:30Speaker 1: of those who are easily deceived, lead them away whither
- 14:35Speaker 1: they will. So also, he says, is the case among Christians.
- 14:39Speaker 1: And he asserts that certain persons who do not wish
- 14:42Speaker 1: either to give or receive a reason for their belief
- 14:45Speaker 1: keep repeating quote, do not examine, but believe end quote,
- 14:50Speaker 1: and quote your faith will save you end quote. And
- 14:54Speaker 1: he alleges that such also say, quote the wisdom of
- 14:58Speaker 1: this life is bad, but the foolishness is a good
- 15:01Speaker 1: thing end quote, to which we have to answer that
- 15:05Speaker 1: if it were possible for all to leave the business
- 15:08Speaker 1: of life and devote themselves to philosophy, no other method
- 15:12Speaker 1: ought to be adopted by any one but this alone.
- 15:15Speaker 1: For in the Christian system also it will be found
- 15:18Speaker 1: that there is not, to speak at all arrogantly, at
- 15:22Speaker 1: least as much of investigation into articles of belief, and
- 15:25Speaker 1: of explanation of dark sayings occurring in the prophetical writings,
- 15:29Speaker 1: and to the parables in the Gospels, and of countless
- 15:32Speaker 1: other things which either were narrated or enacted with the
- 15:35Speaker 1: symbolical signification, as is the case with other systems. But
- 15:40Speaker 1: since the course alluded to is impossible, partly on account
- 15:44Speaker 1: of the necessities of life, partly on account of the
- 15:47Speaker 1: weakness of men, as only a very few individuals devote
- 15:50Speaker 1: themselves earnestly to study, what better method could be devised
- 15:54Speaker 1: with the view of assisting the multitude than that which
- 15:57Speaker 1: was delivered by Jesus to the heathen. And let us
- 15:59Speaker 1: in with respect to the great multitude of believers who
- 16:03Speaker 1: have washed away the mire of wickedness in which they
- 16:06Speaker 1: formerly wallowed, whether it were better for them to believe
- 16:09Speaker 1: without a reason, and so to have become reformed and
- 16:13Speaker 1: improved in their habits through the belief that men are
- 16:16Speaker 1: chastised for sins and honored for good works, or not
- 16:19Speaker 1: to have allowed themselves to be converted on the strength
- 16:23Speaker 1: of mere faith, but to have waited until they could
- 16:25Speaker 1: give themselves to a thorough examination of the necessary reasons.
- 16:30Speaker 1: For it is manifest that on such a plan, all men,
- 16:33Speaker 1: with very few exceptions, would not obtain this amelioration of
- 16:38Speaker 1: conduct which they have obtained through a simple faith, but
- 16:41Speaker 1: would continue to remain in the practice of a wicked life. Now,
- 16:45Speaker 1: whatever other evidence can be furnished of the fact that
- 16:48Speaker 1: it was not without divine intervention that the philanthropic scheme
- 16:53Speaker 1: of Christianity was introduced among men, this also must be added,
- 16:58Speaker 1: for a pious man will not believe that even a
- 17:01Speaker 1: physician of the body, who restores us sick to better health,
- 17:04Speaker 1: could take up his abode in any city or country
- 17:08Speaker 1: without divine permission. Since no good happens to men without
- 17:11Speaker 1: the help of God. And if he who has cured
- 17:14Speaker 1: the bodies of many or restored them to better health,
- 17:18Speaker 1: does not affect his cures without the help of God,
- 17:21Speaker 1: how much more he who has healed the souls of many,
- 17:24Speaker 1: and has turned them to virtue, and improved their nature,
- 17:27Speaker 1: and attached them to God who is over all things,
- 17:30Speaker 1: and taught them to refer every action to his good pleasure,
- 17:34Speaker 1: and to shun all that is displeasing to him, even
- 17:36Speaker 1: to the least of their words or deeds, or even
- 17:40Speaker 1: of the thoughts of their hearts. In the next place,
- 17:43Speaker 1: since our opponents keep repeating those statements about faith, we
- 17:47Speaker 1: must say that, considering it as a useful thing for
- 17:50Speaker 1: the multitude, we admit that we teach those men to
- 17:54Speaker 1: believe without reasons who are unable to abandon all other
- 17:58Speaker 1: employments and give themselves to an examination of arguments, And
- 18:03Speaker 1: our opponents, although they do not acknowledge it, yet practically
- 18:07Speaker 1: do the same. For who is there that, on betaking
- 18:10Speaker 1: himself to the study of philosophy and throwing himself into
- 18:13Speaker 1: the ranks of some sect, either by chance or because
- 18:16Speaker 1: he is provided with a teacher of that school, adopts
- 18:20Speaker 1: such a course for any other reason, except that he
- 18:23Speaker 1: believes his particular sect to be superior to any other.
- 18:27Speaker 1: For not waiting to hear the arguments of all the
- 18:30Speaker 1: other philosophers, and of all the different sects, and the
- 18:34Speaker 1: reasons for condemning one system and for supporting another, he
- 18:38Speaker 1: in this way elects to become a stoic or a
- 18:41Speaker 1: Platonist or a parapetatic, or an Epicurean, or a follower
- 18:45Speaker 1: of some other school, and is thus born, although they
- 18:49Speaker 1: will not admit it, by a kind of irrational impulse
- 18:52Speaker 1: to the practice, say of Stoicism, to the disregard of
- 18:56Speaker 1: the others, despising either Platonism as being marked by God
- 19:00Speaker 1: greater humility than the others, or Peripetaticism as more human
- 19:04Speaker 1: and as admitting with more fairness than other systems the
- 19:08Speaker 1: blessings of human life. And some also alarmed at first
- 19:12Speaker 1: sight about the doctrine of providence from seeing what happens
- 19:16Speaker 1: in the world to the vicious and to the virtuous,
- 19:19Speaker 1: have rashly concluded that there is no divine providence at all,
- 19:23Speaker 1: and have adopted the views of Epicurius and Celsus. End
- 19:28Speaker 1: of chapters one through ten of Against Celsus by Origin
- 19:32Speaker 1: read by David Ronald