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- 0:04Joey Wahler (Host): Is it real or imagined?
- 0:06We're discussing the subject of man colds.
- 0:09Our guest is Dr.
- 0:11Van Williamson.
- 0:12He's a family medicine physician.
- 0:14This is Meaningful Medicine, a Novant Health podcast bringing you
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- 0:30Thanks so much for joining us.
- 0:31I'm Joey Wahler.
- 0:32Hi there, doctor.
- 0:33Welcome.
- 0:35Van Williamson, MD: Thank you for having me.
- 0:36Host: Great to have you aboard.
- 0:38So, I saw you chuckling there when I introduced the topic.
- 0:42So, it begs the question to get us started, what is the man cold and the
- 0:49science behind men actually experiencing colds differently than women?
- 0:55Because for me, this is a new one, but you're the one that went
- 0:58to medical school, of course.
- 1:00Van Williamson, MD: Yeah.
- 1:01And I don't know that we had a topic in medical school or a test
- 1:05specifically devoted to the man cold.
- 1:07But maybe as a long term sufferer of colds out of proportion to what my wife
- 1:13has, maybe I'm an expert in that field.
- 1:15But, you know, the common social myth of a man cold is that men may have worse
- 1:20symptoms or just exaggerate them more when they have the same respiratory illnesses
- 1:27as women and it's often a comparison between a husband and wife or partners
- 1:31on how they react to said infection.
- 1:36Host: So that being said, are men in general, would you say more
- 1:39susceptible to any particular illnesses, or is it mostly this myth when it
- 1:45comes to how they handle colds?
- 1:47Van Williamson, MD: So, I think it's both in the sense that there is some
- 1:51biological evidence of a hormonal effect from sex hormones, which estrogen
- 1:59higher in women, testosterone higher in men, impacting our innate immunity.
- 2:04And so, there is a biological basis for some of this.
- 2:08And I think there's also some evidence that the development of a fetus of a
- 2:15male will potentially have slower or different development of lungs so that at
- 2:19fetal age, their lungs are not as mature.
- 2:22So, that can make infant males more susceptible with certain infections.
- 2:29And so, we see that with hospitalization rates for common infections like
- 2:36RSV, higher rates in boys between three months and two years of age
- 2:41compared to girls at the same age.
- 2:44And that may be due to some of the genetic factors and hormonal
- 2:48developmental factors in utero.
- 2:51And so, other factors that play a role later in life as we said in the term
- 2:57man cold and with the role of estrogen providing women with perhaps a better
- 3:05innate immunity and a better response helps keep them free of certain—or
- 3:11not free of viral illnesses—but have reduced viral infection rate for
- 3:16respiratory illness and perhaps reduce severity of those illnesses as well.
- 3:22Host: Well, you mentioned hormones there, Doctor, like testosterone, et
- 3:26cetera, impacting the immune system.
- 3:29And so, how do they actually impact it and affect response
- 3:33to infections and the like?
- 3:36Van Williamson, MD: Yeah.
- 3:36So, that's a great question and there's a very detailed answer by people who are
- 3:39much smarter than me who can give you all the nuances of the immune system.
- 3:43But there are different types of immunity.
- 3:46And so, when you have an innate immunity that can respond in general to
- 3:51infections, and then you have antibodies that can get ramped up when exposed
- 3:56to certain infections to fight those.
- 3:58And so, the quicker the immunity or immune system is able to
- 4:02respond, often the better it's able to clear out an infection.
- 4:05And so, some of the role of estrogen receptors is actually to kind cue up the
- 4:12immune system and make it more responsive to those infections like viruses.
- 4:16And so, that's where we see the difference between response in women
- 4:20and men as they would have more estrogen and more testosterone.
- 4:24And testosterone does not necessarily convey that same type of immune response.
- 4:29Host: How about the way in which lifestyle factors, sleep, diet, stress
- 4:34perhaps, how do those affect how men get sick or recover from common illnesses?
- 4:40Van Williamson, MD: Yeah, that's a great question.
- 4:41So, lifestyle is always a factor.
- 4:44And so, sleep definitely plays a role.
- 4:47And there have been some studies relatively small studies that I
- 4:52looked at were less than 200 people where they actually inoculated people
- 4:56with rhinovirus; controlled studies who were healthy, exposed them to
- 5:03the virus and then measured the likelihood of getting that infection
- 5:06within five to seven days afterwards.
- 5:07And those who slept less than seven hours, particularly those who slept less
- 5:11than five hours a night, were at much higher risk for getting an infection.
- 5:16And I think most of us can say subjectively there's times that
- 5:19we're really busy not sleeping as well, we seem to be more apt to
- 5:24get sick and kind of more run down.
- 5:26So yeah, there's evidence that sleep plays a major role.
- 5:29Obviously, as you said, stress psychosocial stress or physical stress
- 5:35even can disrupt that sleep and make us less likely to be able to respond
- 5:40and to also slow our immune response.
- 5:44Sleep is vitally important.
- 5:46Host: So that being said, Doctor, in terms of evidence-based strategies men can use
- 5:52to recover faster from colds or perhaps even prevent them better in the first
- 5:57place, aside from what you've mentioned already, is there any remedy that maybe
- 6:04gets overlooked that you'd like to remind us of here that can play a big role?
- 6:09Van Williamson, MD: Yeah, that's a great question.
- 6:11So, the prevention can be challenging during seasons where there's a
- 6:15high prevalence of respiratory viruses in the community.
- 6:18And so, you know, my personal strategy would be to, you know, stay away from your
- 6:23young children and not go into preschools, but I don't know how realistic that is.
- 6:27Well, hand hygiene is typically the number one intervention, washing our hands
- 6:33several times a day if we are, you know, in an environment or around other people
- 6:38or large groups of people who may be sick.
- 6:40But it doesn't have to be with antibacterial soap.
- 6:43I mean, just simple soap and water because again, we're talking about respiratory
- 6:46viruses and not bacterial illnesses.
- 6:49That's generally the best method of prevention.
- 6:52Of course, if we have some sort of immune system dysfunction, whether we're on a
- 6:56medication that suppresses our immune system or another condition, and that
- 7:00makes you higher risk for complications of illness, then it's probably good
- 7:03to wear a mask when you're in close quarters, especially if you're flying
- 7:06or somewhere where you're in a contained space for a long period of time, to reduce
- 7:10your inhalation of certain particles.
- 7:12Host: Now, you hit on something there that I want to delve into a little bit more:
- 7:17young kids in school catching stuff from classmates and then bringing it home.
- 7:23We hear about this all the time.
- 7:25I am still getting over a viral bug of some sort that I've had for
- 7:30weeks now, quite possibly caught through our daughter soon to be
- 7:35four years old, who is now in pre-K.
- 7:40What can I do to protect myself against that, if anything?
- 7:45Maybe sanitizing their hands when they come home?
- 7:49Is there anything you can do between when they leave school and come home
- 7:54to try to cut down on the chances.
- 7:56Van Williamson, MD: Yeah.
- 7:57Certainly having the children wash their hands when they get home from school.
- 8:01If there's a water bottle they've taken to school or some other utensil
- 8:04make sure we're washing that off.
- 8:07During seasons where you know there might be sniffles and cough and
- 8:10congestion, just being cognizant of, you know, those times where we might
- 8:16be more likely to share germs whether that's—you know, at meal times is
- 8:21commonly a place because of course we're eating and drinking and talking.
- 8:25And so, yeah, it'd be nice if you could just spray your children
- 8:29down before they come into house and get rid of all the germs.
- 8:31But I think you have to find that solution.
- 8:33Host: How about this?
- 8:34I don't think we need science, Doctor, to tell us that one trait
- 8:40that's male-oriented is we tend to just try to kind of fight through
- 8:48when we don't feel well, right?
- 8:51Try to brush it off try to be manly—not all of us, but many of us.
- 8:56So, when should men take a seemingly mild illness seriously and seek medical care?
- 9:00Where's that line?
- 9:02Van Williamson, MD: Most of us—and a lot depends on our baseline state
- 9:05of health—but most of us if we get a common viral respiratory illness,
- 9:09it's going to be nagging and nuisance for seven to 10 days, then our body
- 9:14will fight it off and clear it out.
- 9:15But your symptoms are getting progressively worse after that time
- 9:19especially if you wake up with night sweats or fevers or progressive shortness
- 9:24of breath, that can be a concerning sign that we developed secondary
- 9:28pneumonia that needs to be evaluated by medical provider, potentially have
- 9:34X-ray imaging, additional lab work, usually just some imaging, an exam,
- 9:40and diagnosis will help, because that's where you really want to escalate care.
- 9:44That's where people tend to be sick.
- 9:46In rare circumstances, viruses can impact other parts of the body and
- 9:52cause inflammation around the heart or thyroid gland or things like that.
- 9:58But yeah, I would say if we're not getting better in 7 to ten days or
- 10:02getting progressively worse, then it's very important to seek care.
- 10:06Host: Speaking of other parts of the body, a couple more questions for you.
- 10:09One being, aside from colds, what would you say from your experience day-to-day
- 10:14are the top health issues men do tend to overlook, and how can lifestyle
- 10:18changes help in that regard there?
- 10:21Van Williamson, MD: Yeah, that's a great question.
- 10:22And as a primary care physician, that's central to the way I operate and need
- 10:26to think on a daily basis to make sure that we have a common ground of
- 10:30what's important to the patient and also important to me as the physician
- 10:33for concerning health conditions.
- 10:36And so, I think mental health is a big one.
- 10:39That's one that men tend to shrug off more or to not acknowledge to the
- 10:44same degree perhaps than women do.
- 10:46And that's not true for everybody, but I think that plays a significant role
- 10:50in people's health as we've already gone back to the stress and sleep
- 10:54deprivation increase in risk of illness.
- 10:56But mental health is a big one.
- 10:59I read something really surprising recently that I think in the UK in
- 11:032025, they said that suicide was number one cause death of men under
- 11:09age of 50 and that just blew me away, you know, that that is the case.
- 11:14So, I think mental health is a big
- 11:17Another one that we may not tend to take as seriously are cancer screenings
- 11:23Women tend to start cancer screening at earlier ages specifically cervical
- 11:28cancer screen and mammography.
- 11:30It's more ingrained into them to do that.
- 11:33For men, the most important what I would say is to go ahead start getting
- 11:38your colorectal cancer screenings at appropriate age, which now 45
- 11:42for the average risk person because that's actually number cause of
- 11:48cancer deaths in men less than 50 in this country is colorectal cancer.
- 11:52So, I think, those two are very important to me, mental
- 11:54heath and colorectal cancers.
- 11:57Host: And finally, in summary here, Doctor, speaking of prevention
- 12:00and screenings that seem to be stressed more than ever nowadays,
- 12:05how about prostate health as well?
- 12:07Because the prostate as well as the colon, when it comes to screening,
- 12:11getting it done on a regular basis can literally be the difference
- 12:14between life or death, right?
- 12:17Van Williamson, MD: Absolutely.
- 12:17That's a great point to make, is that having it done on a regular
- 12:20routine basis and not just, you know, once every five years or once
- 12:23in a blue moon is vitally important.
- 12:25And so, there are certain biomarkers for prostate cancer that we like to trend.
- 12:32And if those are changing, that's a concerning trend and might lead us
- 12:36to do some more advanced imaging, like an MRI of the prostate or
- 12:40refer to a urologist for biopsy.
- 12:44And then, with cardiovascular health, exact same as kind of knowing when
- 12:50your risk factors start to change.
- 12:52Is that an increase in blood pressure?
- 12:55Is it an increase in cholesterol or blood sugar?
- 12:58Other things that we know that contribute to development of
- 13:02coronary artery disease over time.
- 13:03So, that's the importance of regular routine screening testing, is to make sure
- 13:09that we're aware of the risk factors and trending those over time and intervening
- 13:13before the problem really occurs.
- 13:16Host: Better safe than sorry for sure.
- 13:18Van Williamson, MD: Absolutely.
- 13:18Host: Well, we trust you're now more familiar with man colds and other perhaps
- 13:25more realistic men's health issues.
- 13:28Doctor, valuable information.
- 13:31Thanks so much again.
- 13:32Van Williamson, MD: My pleasure.
- 13:33Thank you for having me.
- 13:34Host: Absolutely.
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