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• First Jobs, Big Lessons - Helping Kids Ages 11-17 Earn Safely [WARM, WELCOMING INTRO MUSIC] CURTIS: Welcome back to The Parent Support Circle Podcast, where we talk about the real stuff of raising kids. I'm your host Curtis, and joining me today is my co-host RJ, who's navigated this whole first jobs thing with two kids who are now adults. RJ: Thanks for having me, Curtis. Yeah, my son Jake and daughter Emma are all grown up now, but those teenage work years? Still feel like yesterday. CURTIS: Well, before we dive in, I've got to ask—do you know why I told my teenager to bring a ladder to their first job interview? RJ: [Chuckles] Oh no, here we go. Why, Curtis? CURTIS: Because I wanted them to reach new heights in their career! [Laughs] RJ: [Groans] And we're off to a strong start, folks. CURTIS: [Laughs] Hey, someone's got to lighten the mood around here! But seriously, today we're tackling a question that comes up in our parent community all the time—what are safe, appropriate ways for kids ages 11 to 17 to earn money? And RJ, you've got some real-world experience here. RJ: I do. And I'll tell you, it's one of those parenting journeys where you're constantly balancing independence with safety, letting go while still protecting them. CURTIS: That's exactly it. These first work experiences aren't just about the money—they're about building character, responsibility, and confidence. So let's walk through this together and hopefully give some practical guidance to parents listening. THE YOUNG STARTERS (Ages 11-13) CURTIS: Alright, RJ, let's start with the younger crowd—11 to 13-year-olds. We're not talking traditional employment here, right? RJ: Right. At this age, it's all about neighborhood gigs and entrepreneurial opportunities. Emma started pet sitting when she was about 12, but here's the key—we started with neighbors we already knew really well. CURTIS: That trust factor is huge. RJ: Absolutely. The Hendersons next door needed someone to walk their golden retriever Max after school. We knew them, we knew their dog, Emma had been around Max since she was little. She'd go over there, text me when she arrived, text me when she left. Simple system that gave her independence and me peace of mind. CURTIS: What was she making? RJ: About $10 per visit, which to a 12-year-old felt like a fortune. [Laughs] She was so proud of herself. CURTIS: That's awesome. What about Jake? RJ: [Laughs] Oh man, Jake. When he was 12, he came to me with a full business plan for a lawn mowing service. I'm talking spreadsheet, projected earnings, equipment costs—the whole pitch. CURTIS: Wait, a spreadsheet at 12? RJ: I know! Kid taught himself Excel just to convince me to buy him a better lawn mower. But we started him on our own lawn first. He practiced on our yard, made his mistakes on our grass, learned the equipment safely. CURTIS: Smart move. Get the training wheels on at home. RJ: Exactly. Then once he had it down, we went around the neighborhood together—and I mean together, I was right there—and he asked neighbors if they needed help. By end of summer, he had five regular clients, making $15 to $20 per lawn. CURTIS: That's real money and real responsibility. And I bet those neighbors loved having a reliable kid in the neighborhood. RJ: They did! He learned about showing up consistently, doing quality work, what happens when you forget to check the gas tank... [Laughs] But better to learn at 12 than 22. CURTIS: What about babysitting? That's a classic for this age group. RJ: Emma got into that at 13, but—and this is important—we made sure she got certified first. Red Cross babysitting course, cost about $50. She learned CPR, basic first aid, emergency procedures. CURTIS: That certification probably helped you sleep better. RJ: Oh, absolutely. And it became her selling point when talking to families. She started babysitting for our close friends' kids, children she already knew. Just a couple hours at first while parents went to dinner. CURTIS: Building up gradually, not throwing her in the deep end. RJ: Right. Then she worked up to full evenings, eventually overnight sitting. But it was a progression. CURTIS: What about kids who aren't into yard work or childcare? The more academic or creative types? RJ: Tutoring is perfect. Emma did this too—she was strong in math, so she helped our neighbor's third-grader with multiplication tables. Made $10 an hour, and it reinforced her own knowledge at the same time. CURTIS: Two birds, one stone. I love it. RJ: Other options—selling crafts at school fairs or local markets. I knew kids who made jewelry, baked cookies, made seasonal decorations. It's creative, entrepreneurial, and when supervised properly, it's safe. CURTIS: These are all great because parents can be involved without hovering. RJ: That's the sweet spot. You're aware, you're checking in, but they're doing the actual work themselves. THE TRANSITION YEARS (Ages 14-15) CURTIS: So at 14, things start opening up, right? Real employment becomes possible. How did that shift things for your family? RJ: Big shift. Jake got his first official job at our local grocery store right when he turned 14. Started as a courtesy clerk—bagging groceries, helping people to their cars, gathering carts. CURTIS: How was the transition from being his own boss to working for someone else? RJ: [Laughs] Oh, it was an adjustment! Suddenly he had a boss, a schedule, coworkers, a uniform. He couldn't decide to sleep in if it was raining. But honestly, it was the best thing for him. CURTIS: That structure is valuable. RJ: So valuable. He learned punctuality, following instructions, teamwork. And that first paycheck? [Laughs] He was so excited until he saw the deductions. Came to me like, "Dad, who is FICA and why are they stealing my money?" CURTIS: [Laughs] The great American awakening! That's when you get to have the tax conversation, right? RJ: Yep. Led to a whole discussion about taxes, government services, civic responsibility. Real-world education right there. CURTIS: What was Emma doing at that age? RJ: Emma went the food service route at 15. Got a job at a local ice cream shop—scooping ice cream, running register, cleaning. She loved it because she's social, loves people, plus free ice cream. CURTIS: Can't beat that perk! RJ: [Laughs] Though after about two weeks she told me, "Dad, I never want to see another waffle cone as long as I live." But she stuck with it for almost two years, became a shift supervisor. Put that leadership experience right on her college applications. CURTIS: See, that's what I want parents to understand. These aren't just throwaway jobs. They're résumé builders, character builders. RJ: Exactly. Other good options for this age—movie theaters, fast food, local cafes. Key is finding employers experienced with teen workers who understand school schedules and have solid training programs. CURTIS: What about seasonal opportunities? RJ: Great option! Jake did a summer as a counselor-in-training at the camp he'd attended as a kid. Didn't pay a ton, but he got room and board plus learned how to manage groups of energetic kids. CURTIS: That's life skills right there. Managing chaos! RJ: [Laughs] Exactly! Both kids also did holiday retail—gift wrapping, stocking shelves during Christmas. Good money, temporary commitment, works around school. THE ALMOST ADULT YEARS (Ages 16-17) CURTIS: Now we're getting into 16 to 17, where things really open up. Driver's licenses, more options... RJ: Total game changer. Once Jake could drive himself to work, everything opened up. He got a job at our local amusement park running one of the game booths. CURTIS: How did that go? RJ: He loved it. Worked weekends and summers, made decent money, got into the park free on days off. Plus he got a crash course in customer service. People get surprisingly competitive about ring toss. CURTIS: [Laughs] I can only imagine! "This game is rigged! I demand to speak to the manager!" RJ: Pretty much! But it taught him patience, conflict resolution, staying calm under pressure. All valuable skills. CURTIS: What about jobs that require certification or special skills? RJ: Emma became a lifeguard at 16. That was big. She had to do a two-week Red Cross certification course—intensive swimming, rescue techniques, CPR training. CURTIS: That's serious responsibility. RJ: Very serious. She was literally responsible for people's safety. But once certified, she was making $12-13 an hour, way above minimum wage. Worked at our community pool two summers, then a water park her senior year. CURTIS: And I bet that built her confidence too. RJ: Absolutely. Making split-second decisions, being in charge, staying alert—it matured her. She came out of those summers more confident in her abilities. CURTIS: You know what the best part about having a teenage lifeguard is? RJ: What's that? CURTIS: You never have to worry about being in deep water when they're around! [Laughs] RJ: [Groans] There it is, folks. Curtis is on fire today. CURTIS: [Still laughing] I couldn't help myself! But seriously, what other options are good for 16 to 17-year-olds? RJ: Tons of options. Retail in malls—clothing stores, sporting goods, bookstores. These often come with employee discounts, which teenagers love. Restaurants too, not just fast food but sit-down places. Jake worked as a host at a family restaurant for a while. CURTIS: That's where the real money is eventually, right? Once they can serve and get tips? RJ: Well, hosts don't usually get tips, but Jake moved to serving when he turned 18, and yeah, that's where the money is. But even as a host, he was learning operations, handling dinner rush, managing reservations. CURTIS: It's all about those transferable skills. RJ: Exactly. It's never just about the task itself—it's about showing up when you don't feel like it, dealing with difficult people, solving problems, being reliable. That's the real education. THE SAFETY CONVERSATION CURTIS: Okay, let's talk about the elephant in the room—safety. Because this is where a lot of parents hesitate, understandably. RJ, what were your non-negotiables? RJ: Number one: I always knew where my kids were working, who they were working for, and when they'd be home. Always. Even when Jake was 17 and thought he was invincible. CURTIS: Communication is everything. RJ: Everything. Second—I met every single employer before my kids started working. If it was a neighbor wanting yard work help, I went over face-to-face. If it was babysitting, we all met together first. CURTIS: What about formal employment at stores or restaurants? RJ: I'd go in with them for applications and interviews. I'd wait in the car or lobby, but I was there. Made sure it was a legitimate business with proper procedures and appropriate working conditions. CURTIS: What are red flags parents should watch for? RJ: Any job requiring upfront payment—that's a scam. Anything promising unrealistic money for minimal work. Anyone who tells your kid not to tell you something—huge red flag. And this is critical: I made it crystal clear to Jake and Emma that if they ever felt uncomfortable or unsafe, they could call me immediately, no questions, no judgment, and I'd come get them. CURTIS: That's so important. Kids need to know safety trumps everything else—even not wanting to disappoint an employer. RJ: Always. I told them, "I don't care if you just started your shift, I don't care if you think you're overreacting—if something feels wrong, call me." And they did, a couple times. Turned out to be nothing serious, but I was glad they felt comfortable calling. CURTIS: Better safe than sorry, every single time. What about labor laws? That's something parents might not think about. RJ: Know your local labor laws. There are restrictions on how late minors can work on school nights, how many hours per week, what equipment they can use. When Jake wanted to work at a construction site at 15, I had to shut that down—too dangerous, not legal. CURTIS: What about online work? That's become such a big thing. RJ: Oh boy, yeah. Emma got into freelance graphic design in high school. She was talented with Photoshop, started making logos for small businesses. But we set up her accounts together, I reviewed every client communication, and payments went through me until she was 18. CURTIS: The internet adds whole new layers of concern. RJ: Absolutely. Never share personal information, never agree to meet anyone from online in person, be careful what you post. Emma wanted to start a YouTube channel—which she eventually did—but we had strict rules: no showing our house, no mentioning our neighborhood, no identifying information. CURTIS: That's smart parenting. Give them the opportunity but with appropriate guardrails. RJ: That's always the balance we're trying to strike. THE MONEY LESSONS CURTIS: So beyond just earning money, what did Jake and Emma actually learn from all this? Because that's the real value, right? RJ: [Laughs] So much. That first grocery store paycheck Jake got—he was over the moon. Then he looked at the deductions and his face just fell. "This is robbery!" he said. CURTIS: [Laughs] Welcome to adulthood, kid! RJ: Right? But it led to important conversations about how society works, where tax money goes, civic responsibility. Emma learned about budgeting when she decided to save for a car. Made this whole plan—needed $3,000, figured out exactly how many jobs it would take, actually stuck to it. CURTIS: That's impressive discipline for a teenager. RJ: I was really proud. We helped them both open savings accounts, taught basic principles—save some, spend some, maybe give some to charity. Jake started automatically putting 20% of every paycheck into savings. He's 25 now and still does that. CURTIS: Those early habits stick with you for life. RJ: They really do. Emma learned about opportunity cost—choosing between working extra shifts or going to a concert with friends. Sometimes she chose the concert, and that's okay too. It's all part of learning to make decisions about your time and money. CURTIS: What about mistakes? Because kids are definitely going to make them. RJ: Oh, plenty! Jake blew his first two paychecks entirely on video games. Then his phone broke and he had nothing saved. Hard lesson, but better at 15 than 25. CURTIS: Absolutely. What about Emma? RJ: Emma once overcommitted to too many babysitting jobs, had to cancel on a family last minute. She felt terrible, learned a hard lesson about managing her schedule and not overextending. CURTIS: Those lessons stick because they felt the real consequences. RJ: Exactly. I always told them—the point isn't just the money. It's the skills, responsibility, work ethic, confidence. Money comes and goes, but what you learn from earning it stays with you. CURTIS: That's wisdom right there. You know what you call a teenager who learns to manage money well? RJ: [Bracing himself] What's that, Curtis? CURTIS: A future success story, because they're really earning their future! [Laughs] RJ: [Laughs] Okay, that one was actually kind of wholesome. I'll allow it. CURTIS: [Still chuckling] I try to sneak in a heartwarming one every now and then! PRACTICAL ADVICE FOR PARENTS CURTIS: Alright, RJ, let's bring this home with some practical advice. What would you tell parents whose kids are asking about first jobs? RJ: Start where your kid is. Don't push a 12-year-old into something they're not ready for just because the neighbor's kid is doing it. If your kid wants to walk dogs, help them do it safely. If your 16-year-old wants retail, help them build a resume and practice interviews. CURTIS: Meet them where they are, not where you think they should be. RJ: Right. And here's something I learned the hard way—don't solve all their problems for them. Jake's first week mowing lawns, he completely forgot about a client. Just spaced it. I wanted to call and apologize myself, but my wife stopped me. She made Jake go over, own his mistake, make it right. CURTIS: That's hard as a parent though, isn't it? RJ: So hard! You want to protect them from feeling bad or facing consequences. But that was one of the best lessons he learned. He never missed an appointment again. CURTIS: Let them own their mistakes and their successes. RJ: Yes! When Emma got promoted to shift supervisor, we celebrated big time. When Jake got a customer review praising his work ethic, we put it on the fridge. Make them feel like their work matters, because it does. CURTIS: What about kids who don't seem interested in working? RJ: Don't force it, but do have conversations about money, responsibility, saving for things they want. Sometimes kids just need to see their friends earning money and they'll get motivated. Other times, they're focused on school or sports or other important things. That's okay too. CURTIS: There's no one-size-fits-all timeline. RJ: Exactly. My nephew didn't get his first job until 17, and he's doing great now. Emma started at 12. Different kids, different paths. CURTIS: Any final thoughts before we wrap up? RJ: Just this: these first jobs are practice for life. The stakes are low, the lessons are valuable, and your kids are more capable than you think. Give them opportunities, keep them safe, and trust the process. CURTIS: Perfect. That's what this whole parenting journey is about, isn't it? Trusting the process, supporting our kids, and being there when they need us. WRAPPING UP CURTIS: That's all we've got for today's episode of The Parent Support Circle Podcast. Thank you all for being here and sharing this journey with us. RJ: And thanks for having me, Curtis. Always a pleasure, even with the dad jokes. CURTIS: [Laughs] Hey, that's what I'm here for! 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We're all in this together. Take care, everyone!