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Inside Visual Architects: How Set Design, Robotics and AI are Shaping Events · Event Industry News Podcast

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  Hello everybody, welcome along to the Event Industry News podcast with me James Dixon
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  wishing you all a very good morning, afternoon or evening, whenever or wherever you tune
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  into us from.
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  I'm just going to take this earpiece out because I don't need it while we're recording.
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  You may notice that I'm in a slightly different setting today.
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  Instead of being sat at home in front of my laptop at the upright piano in my living room,
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  I'm in a beautiful Evolution Dome inflatable structure.
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  Big thanks to Ash Austin and the guys at Evolution Dome for hosting us at Confex 2026 at XL London.
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  We're in one of their lovely inflatable structures on the Evolution Dome exhibition stand at
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  the show and it's great.
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  It's great to be able to come out in person and set up a few microphones and sit with
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  people and have a bit of a chat with the buzz of the show floor around us, which hopefully
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  you may just pick up a little bit of that noise and the buzz from the show floor down
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  the microphones as we're recording today.
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  Welcome along to the podcast.
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  My guest today is a returning guest.
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  It's somebody that we have met before and it was one of those moments when my guest
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  today walked into the podcast studio at Evolution Dome and went, of course, yeah, we've met
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  before, but we did it via the video link and now we get a chance to meet in person.
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  Just so happens that I drive regularly right past where they're based.
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  This is what happens when you come and meet people in person.
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  You suddenly realize that you may be a little bit more connected than you realize.
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  My guest today, and I'm going to make an attempt at this before they correct me, is Lefteris
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  Angelidis.
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  Perfect.
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  You got it exactly.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm well happy with this.
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  Lefteris is the creative director for Visual Architects.
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  We've spoken before on the podcast, but we're not going to assume that I'm going to remember
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  anything or our guests could think that far back because I think it's probably a couple
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  of years ago now.
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  It was probably, I'd say, four years ago.
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  Three, four years ago.
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  It was before when we were in Hyde because now we've moved to Denton and it was when
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  we were in Hyde.
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  Excellent.
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  Well, Lefteris, you take it away.
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  Tell us a bit about yourself and what Visual Architects do.
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  So basically, as you said, I'm Lefteris Angelidis, you got the name right, and I'm the CEO and
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  founder of Visual Architects and creative director.
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  What Visual Architects is, it's a company that we specialize in set design and theming.
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  It's a creative production house, but where we started from doing nightclubs and festivals,
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  theming them, what we kind of say is that we transform any space into an experience
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  and that can be anything from a small event to a massive corporate event.
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  And we've grown in the festival scene, but now we're doing a lot more events like we
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  do Google, Jet 2, we do big staff parties and we manufacture everything.
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  And as we've grown, the company has broken down into three divisions.
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  So we've got our event design, what we call, which is when we're theming with stock and
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  products that we already have and we can come and theme your event and it's rental products
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  really.
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  We've got our interior design, which that is more the permanent installation.
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  So when we do a restaurant, a bar, a nightclub, and somebody wants a refurb, we'll do it with
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  our interior design team.
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  And then in between those two teams sits our manufacturing, which that has grown over the
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  years and we've got seven axis robots, 3D printers, joinery, carpentry, electronics.
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  So anything that we create that goes into event design or to interior design is from
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  that manufacturing team.
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  And now as the years have gone past, that's also become its own entity.
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  It's a creative production house that caters for any brand activation that wants something
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  not for rental, for example, they might want to buy something and use it for their brands.
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  And how important is it?
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  And I kind of know the answer to this question anyway, but I'm going to ask you as the expert
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  to have that integration and that synergy between the visual design and the architectural sort
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  of layout and design of a space and the event production side of things, because often
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  the two are dealt with separately and that creates problems.
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  The production people then come in and they say, well, it's okay, all this scenery being
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  here and it looks lovely, but we now need to run cables there and we need to do this
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  and we need to put lighting in and is it important that you've got that synergy in house?
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  It is.
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  And the good thing with us is that before Visual Architects, we were running a big indoor
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  festival and we were on a club event as well.
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  So we understood what was needed and Visual Architects started off by building and designing
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  sets for our own event.
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  So we had to coordinate internally with the sound guys, with the light guys.
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  So we knew how important that is.
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  And then as Visual Architects grew, yes, we were still creating everything, but then when
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  the interior design team was born and that was born whilst we were in Dubai, we were
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  doing a hotel there and we're doing semi-permanent installations and they asked us, oh, can you
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  do a permanent installation for one of our restaurants?
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  So that's where interior design was born and then that's where we got a good understanding
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  of floor plans, technical design, how everything's going to fit with all the cables.
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  So interior design and event production, the background that we had in that gave us a very
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  good insight into that.
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  And now with everybody, all these teams being in house, it gives us that synergy as you
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  mentioned to understand what is needed to put on a successful event and to not have
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  the problems when you get to the show.
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  And it's like, oh, I didn't know you were here or I didn't know you were there.
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  So that's what makes it really important.
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  The technology nowadays when it comes to event production has developed to such an extent
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  that it's very, very easy now to integrate elements together that 15, 20 years ago wouldn't
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  have been possible.
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  You used to have very specific departments, wouldn't you?
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  You'd have the scenery or the set department, the set builders, the lighting, the TV, the
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  projection, the audio side of things.
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  Because of the development in things like LED technology and how you can be creative
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  in almost building a structure with LED panels, with how easy lighting is to deploy now because
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  it's smaller and needs less power.
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  You've got all these better creative options, haven't you, because of the technology?
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  Absolutely.
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  And the good thing is the way the technology has advanced now, even from the simple thing
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  of looking at, let's build a render.
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  So you build that render and you can show somebody exactly in 3D where your set's going
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  to go, what you're going to be putting in.
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  And that doesn't help just our team to install, but it helps, for example, as you said, the
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  lighting team, the LED team, because all of a sudden, if everybody's working in the same
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  render, they're seeing that, hang on, you can't put your decor there, we need to put
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  our screen there.
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  And I think that's the important thing of technology.
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  By advancing so much, it's brought everybody together to know what we're talking about.
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  And it's not just conversations or diagrams on a piece of paper.
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  And to go a step further, because obviously we all know now how AI is advancing.
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  That's also brought more into the equation because that's brought sometimes more synergy
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  with clients now, because now you're getting clients being able to give you a better brief
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  because they've done a little bit of work on AI and they've put some things in and said,
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  oh, I want something like this.
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  So you're not miles away.
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  Because words sometimes, when I say something to you in five sentences, you're going to
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  understand it differently in your mind because you've got different concepts and different
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  interpretations from how you've grown up and you've been born, you know, but with AI now,
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  you can give something a little bit more.
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  This is what I mean.
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  Here's what I want.
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  So that brings synergy in that respect.
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  It's so important because we've all been there before where a client says, we want to do
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  this event.
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  Okay.
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  How do you envisage it?
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  How do you see it manifesting itself?
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  And they say, well, we're not sure.
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  We think we'd like some of this and we think we'd like some of that.
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  And you took the AI question away from me because I was literally going to ask that.
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  So the way that people can now easily provide you with at least a basic visualization of
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  their concept must surely be a huge leap forward to helping you realize that.
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  Massive.
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  Because before what would happen, as you just said, you know, you'd say, oh, we want something
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  that's a bit like this, a bit like that.
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  And before there was no AI.
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  So we'd have to go straight away into building in 3D.
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  So when we interpreted your words and put them in 3D, when you look at them, you're
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  like, oh, that's not what I mean.
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  I need a bit like that.
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  The time that it would take to create something in 3D was a lot longer before.
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  And if you get it wrong, then there's another week gone and another week and time could
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  fly by.
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  Whereas now the client and the person that's got the idea is able to actually put it in,
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  speak with AI and get it to a certain level that they feel, OK, now I can go and explain
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  my concept and it's easier for the other person to understand it.
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  And that saves us time when they bring it like that.
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  Or even if a client doesn't have the idea, it's a lot easier for us to throw back three
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  or four different concepts in AI.
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  So is this what you mean or is this what you mean?
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  And you can move the project faster.
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  And from a cost base point of view, when I think 10 years ago, 15 years ago, 20 years
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  ago, even 10 years ago, the cost of doing a really high quality 3D render of a big event
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  project to give you, to give your client that visual realisation of what you're proposing,
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  the computer costs alone because of the processing power that you would need, the cost of having
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  a technical operator who's competent enough to produce those designs in CAD or whatever
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  you're using.
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  The technology has evolved so much now that you don't need the processing power anymore.
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  So you could probably do it, anybody can do it on their laptops that they're using every
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  day.
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  You still do.
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  You still need a strong computer.
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  It doesn't matter how far you go, but the cost before and the time it would take somebody
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  was a lot longer.
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  And now it's a lot, it's easier.
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  Computers are stronger by default nowadays.
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  So you do have the stronger computers.
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  You're still, when you want to get to your final render, AI is not going to get you there.
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  AI is going to get you to give you a concept, but when you need to try and get the sizes
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  right, the exact locations, all the elements in, you still need to move into creating a
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  render to show your client and to show the stakeholder because AI is going to give you
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  the overall concept.
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  But you still need the render, but as you said, nowadays it's easier.
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  Computers are a lot stronger.
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  Time is moving faster.
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  So yeah, it is easier these days to do it.
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  How far has it evolved in reducing on-site, unexpected on-site problems?
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  That goes back to what I was mentioning before is because when you've got the render and
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  you're dealing, say we're a set design company.
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  So we're going to build props, we're going to build the set, you know, we're going to
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  do the stage, we're going to do the ceiling, the theming, the photo opportunities around
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  the space.
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  Then we'll come in a light company, but they need to put their lights.
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  So if we're doing say a big canopy or draping in the ceiling, they need to put their lights.
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  So all of a sudden, if we both work from the same platform, we're going to see that, oh,
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  hang on, you've got your lights there.
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  So we need to work around with our canopy and our draping.
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  The staging, in will come the LED company.
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  They need to put their screens in, but we need to also put the props on the stage design.
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  So then once we're all working from the same space, it helps everyone see that we're not
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  going to get there on the day and you're going to be in my way, I'm going to be in your way.
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  And then that also helps with the production schedule because when we know that you're
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  going to come and you're going to put this box here, someone's going to put the TV there,
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  we can make a schedule that, okay, I'm going to put this on top of this box.
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  So you come in first and I'll come in second.
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  So technology is helping in that respect as well to create a more solid and coherent
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  production schedule.
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  Which ultimately as well contributes to reduce cost, maybe not massively, but if your production
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  schedule is better, if it runs to time, you're less likely to incur out of hours charges
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  for things like crew, for people being on site when they don't need to be, venue costs,
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  working overnight in venues and things like that.
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  All of this contributes to more efficient events, doesn't it?
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  Absolutely.
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  It does reduce costs, but what it reduces even more, which I think is more important,
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  the stress.
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  The stress of the team and the stress of the client, because a client doesn't want to see
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  their people fight until the last minute when the doors are meant to open.
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  So once you've got a solid plan, it makes everybody's life easier.
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  Crew, clients, stakeholders, venues, everyone's, it's a lot smoother.
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  Do you mind if we talk a little bit just about Manchester, because that's where you guys
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  are based, up in Denton.
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  If anybody doesn't know Manchester very well, Denton is just sort of on the eastern edge
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  of the city of Manchester and in Greater Manchester.
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  It's a fantastic event city, and one thing that Manchester's got loads of is loads of
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  these old warehouse spaces, because of its history, because of its industrial heritage.
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  There's still loads of great spaces there.
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  I know that you'll work all over the UK and all over Europe doing what you do, but what's
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  it like to be based in that particular city, and do you do a lot of work there?
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  Manchester is great.
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  We've been there for years.
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  You know, we were in Stockport, then we moved to Hyde.
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  That's where, when we spoke last time, we were in Hyde, and that's where we had the
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  fire, and that's why we had to move to Denton.
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  But Manchester's got this heritage, this culture, that when you look back from the days of Sankey's
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  Rock World, you know, it used to have all these events, and we've worked in all these
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  spaces over the years, and it's developed a lot.
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  I have to say, it's lost a lot of those spaces when you walk into the Northern Quarter, when
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  it was Sankey's, and it was just on its own at the back, and there was just warehouses.
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  Now it's all bars and everything.
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  It's all developed now.
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  It's all developed massively.
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  So Manchester has changed quite a lot over the years.
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  We still work in Manchester.
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  We work all over the UK, really.
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  And if you'd have done an event in Ancoats, you know, 15, 20 years ago, and now you go
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  into Ancoats, and it's all bars, cafes, outdoor plazas.
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  This can't be Ancoats.
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  This can't be Ancoats at all.
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  It's developed so much, because I remember we did a show in Sankey's.
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  We did a few shows basically as Visual Arctics, but we did one as the club event that we had
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  at the time.
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  And I remember walking down those streets, and it's dead, and especially at night time,
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  there would be nothing.
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  You know, you're just in the middle of nowhere, where am I going to, you know, an underground
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  rave.
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  But now, you walk down that street, there's bars, there's everything there.
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  Yeah.
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  I want to ask you about the sustainability aspect, if you don't mind, because there's
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  a huge drive and desire at the moment for things to be reusable, and working in the
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  nature that you do with visual stuff, is there a desire and a call from a lot of your clients
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  now for stuff to maybe be reused, or is it still very much one-off events that you're
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  working on?
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  Absolutely.
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  At the moment, I think sustainability has become a massive thing in all events.
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  And everybody that's wanting to put on an event, they ask, how sustainable is the product?
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  The massive advantage with us is because we started off as a rental company, we still
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  are a rental company, a lot of the assets we already have.
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  Yes, we manufacture and we sell now to clients, but we've got a massive stock of themes.
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  We've got over 60 themes, we've got about 20 Christmas themes, we've got Halloween themes.
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  And the advantage of that now, because we're seeing people want more sustainable events,
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  they're coming to us, okay, what can you do for us that is not going to go to landfill?
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  And when we utilize our existing themes, we can add some more elements, we can repaint
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  them, we'll do the show, and then those elements are going to come back to our warehouse, and
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  then they will be reused on another show.
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  We've actually still got props from 10 years ago, we've never been them, we keep them.
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  And sometimes when we're doing new events that the client might want something different,
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  we will build it and we will keep it after, because we've got use for it.
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  Well, of course, because I mean, that's good business for you as well, isn't it?
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  Because then you're building up your stock of what's available to the next client from
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  a rental point of view.
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  So I mean, with every event that goes past, you're constantly evolving, I guess, and building
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  new options.
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  We're still only in February this year, but planning for events, you know, happens years
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  in advance, months in advance.
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  So what's the diary looking like for you this year?
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  What are you working on at the moment that excites you?
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  I wish it was years in advance.
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  I feel the event industry is becoming more and more last minute all the time.
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  It's like, we need something, we need it next week.
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  But no, we are planning.
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  Like at the moment, we're planning our Christmas shows, because at Christmas, we do some very
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  big shows.
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  We do SEAT in Barcelona, we do Jet2s, big Christmas parties, all of that's being planned
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  now.
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  Convene, we do.
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  Then there's Halloween as well.
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  So we're planning for Halloween.
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  So although on execution, we're looking at brand activations over the next few months
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  and then we're looking at festivals, we've got Boomtown, we've got Creamfields that we're
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  doing all the stages that we do there.
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  So now we're on the execution level of festival scene, but we're on the planning of Christmas
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  and Halloween.
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  So you're always working about nine months in advance with the clients that you know
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  you've got and you do every year.
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  But what happens at the same time, new clients will come in and people will come with briefs
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  that they need them in two weeks, three weeks.
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  So we keep on getting those on a daily basis.
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  So you're having to juggle the long-term projects and the stuff that is planned well in advance
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  and you can see coming, as well as having that flexibility to react to, because you
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  don't want to turn business away, do you?
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  You want to be able to react.
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  Yeah.
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  And the way we are, we're on a massive growth trajectory at the moment.
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  So yes, we always want to be able to adhere to new clients and create new projects.
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  Because every project that comes in, it's exciting.
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  Everyone wants something different.
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  And I feel the events industry is growing massively at the moment.
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  We're seeing more and more.
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  I think over the next few years, it's going to grow even more.
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  And generally, you're seeing, besides festivals, brand activations, Christmas, you're seeing
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  more and more brands now wanting to put on events for their clients, even blue chip companies
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  at the moment.
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  It's no longer just a simple event.
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  It needs to be a wow factor.
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  There needs to be something spectacular going on.
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  And these projects are very interesting.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, I was fortunate enough to go over to Spain in October last year to do a gig.
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  I moonlight outside of my day job, still doing some live music.
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  So occasionally, I get a call to go with a band and do a gig somewhere.
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  And we went and did a corporate gig out at the Port Aventura theme park near Salou in
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  Spain.
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  And some of the set design and the stuff that had been created for this corporate client
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  was absolutely amazing.
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  It had all come out from the UK.
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  And there's still very much this thing that, from a production point of view, UK-based
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  businesses have got a really good reputation, haven't they?
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  If you're based in the UK and you're doing this, I don't know why it is and what the
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  reasoning is behind it.
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  But did you find that, do you get a lot of call from European clients because you're
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  based in the UK?
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  Yeah, we do.
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  I think we're getting, because we work in the European market as well, we've worked
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  in Ibiza a lot, we've worked in Dubai.
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  People have seen our products.
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  So we're getting people coming to us from all over.
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  But I feel as well, on a different note, without us going down a different tangent now, the
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  whole world at the moment is changing.
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  Globalization is probably coming to an end, and we're going to see a lot more domestic
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  markets enhancing.
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  And that's going to happen in Europe, it's going to happen in the UK, where people in
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  the past would try and get things from China, India.
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  These markets, we're seeing a massive growth, they're becoming more expensive, we're seeing
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  tariffs.
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  And I think there's going to be a lot more demand to find products locally.
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  And I think the UK market hopefully is going to grow.
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  The European market at the moment is growing.
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  And I think the UK needs to follow.
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  Yeah, it's interesting.
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  And you're quite right, that's a whole other rabbit hole to go down.
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  But the same token, that does mean that potentially there's opportunity within the UK.
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  You know, for agencies, if corporates that may decide that they want to take a big management
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  conference outside of the UK to a European destination, they might decide, actually,
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  we're going to retain that in the UK.
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  So you get UK businesses and agencies keeping their events in the UK, which then ultimately
• 19:53
  makes life a little bit easier for UK-based event businesses.
• 19:56
  Yeah, and the thing is, UK agencies as well are doing, as you said, a lot of work in Europe.
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  So they are putting on big events in Europe.
• 20:03
  And then they naturally choose a UK company to do the show for them.
• 20:07
  So they come to us, because we have done shows, although we work for Spanish companies, let's
• 20:11
  say, there's also UK companies that do shows in Spain that book us.
• 20:15
  The same in Croatia as well.
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  We've got a couple of shows in Croatia this summer, they're from UK companies.
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  But at the same time, we are doing for a Croatian company as well.
• 20:23
  Yeah.
• 20:24
  And it's great when you get those opportunities, but I guess ultimately as well, from a logistical
• 20:30
  point of view, transport, moving things from A to B, doing stuff in the UK is much easier.
• 20:35
  It's much easier, yeah.
• 20:36
  And that is one of the issues that, especially since Brexit, it's become a lot more difficult
• 20:41
  with carnage, all the tax, all the implications that have come with that.
• 20:45
  It's made it more expensive.
• 20:47
  And some clients that we used to have in the past, they just simply can't afford now to
• 20:52
  pay the transport.
• 20:53
  Because if you need to ship like one or two Arctics over, that's a massive cost.
• 20:57
  And that has had an impact on us.
• 20:59
  And that's one of the reasons now, we do have a warehouse in Barcelona where we store stock.
• 21:04
  But it's never enough.
• 21:05
  We just need to ship from the UK.
• 21:07
  So that's why at the moment, we're at a point in Visual Arctics that we are looking to replicate
• 21:13
  what we have in the UK, in Europe, to be able to cater better for the European market.
• 21:18
  And that's something that we're looking at the moment as expanding.
• 21:22
  I'm just waving at some people who are looking through the door of the lovely dome that we're
• 21:27
  in.
• 21:28
  Because we've hijacked Ashes or Evolution Dome's structure.
• 21:30
  They're now showing potential clients.
• 21:35
  I'm giving thumbs up to potential clients here for Evolution Dome as we're doing this.
• 21:41
  It's been great to catch up with you today.
• 21:43
  What are you doing at the show today?
• 21:45
  Are you just meeting clients, meeting some of the people that you do business with?
• 21:48
  Are you exhibiting here?
• 21:50
  We're actually exhibiting.
• 21:51
  We've got the Heaven and Hell stand.
• 21:52
  It's quite big.
• 21:53
  I don't know if you've passed.
• 21:54
  It's got the massive devil.
• 21:55
  It's got the angels.
• 21:57
  It's a big stand.
• 21:58
  I've only arrived this morning.
• 21:59
  So when we finish wrapping up these recordings, I'll come past.
• 22:01
  You should definitely come and see.
• 22:02
  It's a very good stand.
• 22:04
  It's great here because at EPS it's all networking.
• 22:07
  You're seeing old people you know, old clients, but you're always meeting new people.
• 22:11
  So it's a great expo to be at.
• 22:12
  Absolutely.
• 22:13
  My guest today is Lefturis Angelidis.
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  I hope I've got it right.
• 22:17
  You've got it right.
• 22:18
  Perfect.
• 22:19
  I feel like I say it slightly differently every time.
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  Creative Director at Visual Architects.
• 22:23
  Talking all things visual architecture, really.
• 22:26
  If you want to find out more about the guys, where do they go?
• 22:29
  Instagram?
• 22:30
  We're on our website, Visual Architects, LinkedIn, Visual Architects, Instagram, we're everywhere.
• 22:35
  We're on all platforms.
• 22:36
  I know we usually give websites out, but it's not difficult for people to find companies
• 22:40
  nowadays.
• 22:41
  Go to wherever you go, search Visual Architects, and you'll find the guys there.
• 22:45
  Go and check them out because it's fascinating.
• 22:47
  It's great.
• 22:48
  It's creative.
• 22:49
  It's all the things that excite people about working in the events industry.
• 22:52
  Thanks very much for popping in today and having a chat with us.
• 22:54
  Thank you very much for having me.
• 22:55
  Just a very quick note before we wrap up today's podcast.
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  If you watched today's podcast, either on YouTube or the Event Industry News website,
• 23:02
  thanks very much for doing so.
• 23:04
  Make sure you check out all the other areas of the Event Industry News website for the
• 23:08
  A to Z Supplier Directory, all the special features and supplements that are on the website.
• 23:12
  If you've listened to today's podcast via your audio podcast platform, please do make
• 23:17
  sure that you go over to the website after you've listened to today's podcast and do
• 23:21
  all the things that I've just mentioned.
• 23:23
  A final shout out, once again, to Ash and the team at Evolution Dome for providing us
• 23:28
  with this lovely little space to record today's podcast from, live from Confex and the event
• 23:33
  production show 2026 at Excel London.
• 23:36
  Thanks very much for dropping in, everybody.
• 23:38
  Thanks again to my guest, Lefteris Angelidis, and we'll see you soon on the podcast.
• 23:41
  Cheers, guys.
• 23:42
  Nice one, guys.