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FISH OR CUT BAIT: Will playoff-starved Mike Trout ever ask out of Anaheim? · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Well, hey Angel fans, and welcome back to Halo Territory
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: with Mike D. Giovanna, former Ala Times Baseball writer and
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: host of the show, Mark Trumbo, my regular co host,
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: and former Angel slugger, and joining us today from ESPN.
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: Alden Gonzalez, thanks for coming on.
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: How you doing today, gentlemen?
• 0:27
  Speaker 3: It is always an honor. Thank you for having me us.
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And we love the backwards cap. It's
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: quite the foul tear.
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Home Run Derby just what wasn't the same without
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: you bringing the gatorade and the towels and asking how
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: those guys, uh were they tired? And how do they
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: feel out there?
• 0:45
  Speaker 3: I heard, I heard, I saw that viewership was down
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: this year. The only explanation I could possibly have was
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: that I was not there.
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Netflix, Netflix, that would do well to retain you,
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: at least for the Derby album.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I come on the show. Is I appreciate that?
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: All right, So a lot to talk about today. Mainly
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about Mike Trout and his future
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: in Anaheim, maybe out of Anaheim, most likely the former
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: when we talk about some trade rumors. But first we
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: have to talk about Monday Nights the backle You know,
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  Speaker 1: the Angels have lost some really tough games this year.
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  Speaker 1: They blew a seven run lead, I think in Sacramento
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  Speaker 1: to the A's. They blew a couple of six run
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  Speaker 1: leads and lost those games, But Monday night might have
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: been the ugliest loss of the year.
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  Speaker 2: To recap.
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  Speaker 1: Angels had a four to two lead in the ninth
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  Speaker 1: over the Astros. Jose Fermen on the mound, first batter
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  Speaker 1: hit by pitch passball, Christian Walker single runners on first
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  Speaker 1: and third, no outs. Lucas Spence hits a double playgrounder
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  Speaker 1: that goes under the glove of second basement Von Grissom
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  Speaker 1: for an air run. Scores four to three. Christian Vesquez
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  Speaker 1: pops up a pun attent, and then Kurtzuzuki, the manager
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  Speaker 1: summoned Sam Bachman from the bullpen now third basement. Denzil
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: Guzman made a really nice play on Jeremy Pania slow
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  Speaker 1: roller and throughout the runner at home. Then with two on,
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  Speaker 1: the Angels intentionally walk Jordan Alvarez to load the basis.
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  Speaker 1: Bachman Nick's east Sak Paraders with a pitch and the
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: elbow barely hit him. Forces in the tying run, he
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  Speaker 1: walks lamont Way Junior to force in the going go
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  Speaker 1: ahead run, and then he boots a really easy comebacker
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  Speaker 1: too the mountain by all two, he for an insurance
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  Speaker 1: around the Astros wins six'. Four, gentlemen where do we
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: even start with this? GAME i guess we have to
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: start with what the heck Was grissom even doing in that?
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  Speaker 1: Game in the ninth he had Pulled Kirk, low the
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: left fielder who had made a really nice diving catch
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  Speaker 1: for defensive, purposes and he did not do the same For.
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  Speaker 1: Grissom WHEN i, think AS i went back and, look
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  Speaker 1: twelve times this Year Oswald, perrazza the betterfielder has come
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  Speaker 1: in late games of. Play second he did it at
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  Speaker 1: third base a bunch earlier in the. Year, Uh Mark,
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: alden what did you make of that?
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  Speaker 4: Night?
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: Thenning what was the worst transgression in your mind from
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  Speaker 1: The angel?
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  Speaker 2: Skipper, WELL i don't.
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  Speaker 3: THINK i don't think you pull Pulled Kurt. LOW i
• 3:13
  Speaker 3: think it was A Josh low that's.
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  Speaker 1: Not fan of the.
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  Speaker 2: Show by the, Way.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure he's not a Great.
• 3:24
  Speaker 4: By the, way.
• 3:27
  Speaker 3: This is as painful a way to lose a baseball
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  Speaker 3: game AS i can imagine the ball under the legs
• 3:32
  Speaker 3: on the double, playball a backup slider that just nicks
• 3:36
  Speaker 3: an elbow, guard a challenge three to one pitch that
• 3:40
  Speaker 3: was like a millimeter away from the strike, zone and
• 3:43
  Speaker 3: THEN i think the astro was tacked on an insurance
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  Speaker 3: run on like a dribbler from a. Two like it
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  Speaker 3: was just, like you, know it's you, KNOW i don't
• 3:52
  Speaker 3: know the, numbers you guys probably, do but The angels
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  Speaker 3: record in one or two run games and also when
• 3:59
  Speaker 3: leading seven innings and the amount of blown stage that they've, Had,
• 4:04
  Speaker 3: Like i've had people point to that as like maybe
• 4:08
  Speaker 3: like some semblance of optimism about this team that, like,
• 4:11
  Speaker 3: look if you could just correct that, part this team
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  Speaker 3: is not as bad as you. Think look at their
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  Speaker 3: run differential compared to that of The a's and The
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  Speaker 3: royals and some of the other really bad teams in.
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  Speaker 3: BASEBALL i, mean obviously this is not even with the best.
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  Speaker 3: BULLPEN i don't think it's the playoff, team but it's
• 4:28
  Speaker 3: just you, Know i've had other people from other organizations, say, like,
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  Speaker 3: look The angels have like good, arms like they're pitching
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: is actually in decent, Shape like the stuff that these
• 4:38
  Speaker 3: guys throw out a bullpen is really, good they often
• 4:42
  Speaker 3: don't command it well. Enough AND i think just they've
• 4:46
  Speaker 3: had too many losses like this this. Season And, mark
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  Speaker 3: you could speak to this because you've been in the.
• 4:50
  Speaker 3: Room there's nothing more deflating to a team than just
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: continually losing games in which you're leading. LATE i mean
• 4:59
  Speaker 3: that takes a.
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: Toll, YEAH i think it was nine times now they've
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: lost games when they had a lead after eight. Innings,
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  Speaker 1: mark what are?
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  Speaker 2: You, YES i haven't been in this current, room SO
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: i don't know what the vibe is. Like this lost
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  Speaker 2: one of. Many they've lost a lot of games this.
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  Speaker 2: Year how many saves career? Wise Does jose for me
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  Speaker 2: and have?
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  Speaker 1: MYKE i think it would be, Zero, mark oh for
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  Speaker 1: five and would have Been.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah on the flip, Side Jordan romano has four saves
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  Speaker 2: in the month Of, july you, know, one, three, five
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  Speaker 2: e RA a for The. Rockies there you go leader in.
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  Speaker 1: Saves, MARK i forgot.
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  Speaker 2: THAT i think he has to be UNLESS I, Okay
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: so this bullpen by committee or closer by, committee high,
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: Leverage i'm not into. THAT i understand partly, why BUT
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: i think that's what you do when your bullpen's then
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: and you're gonna Put Zephyr, john who did looked a
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  Speaker 2: little fatigued. Yesterday the blazing heater was down a few
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  Speaker 2: miles an, hour but to his, credit he got worked
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  Speaker 2: out of a little bit of a. Jam but it
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: looks like you're you, know there's a pretty good gauge
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  Speaker 2: for how much you can lean on. Him AND i
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  Speaker 2: didn't know who was going to come out in the
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  Speaker 2: NINTH i Knew Zephyr john wasn't going to go to,
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  Speaker 2: innings so For mean's name got called and the ninth
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  Speaker 2: inning is a lot of guys think, that you, know
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  Speaker 2: it's just another, inning But i've seen many wilt under
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: the pressure and kind of looked like that's what, happened
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: kind of a sloppy start hit about. Her and then
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: WHAT i wanted to Ask, alvin as a former stud
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: middle infielder from The miami area technique, wise what what
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: do you think happened on that ground ball that went
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  Speaker 2: through the wickets On? Grissom did you see?
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  Speaker 3: ANYTHING i, MEAN i don't know the ball.
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  Speaker 2: All, Right, well that's an Fu New england born and
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  Speaker 2: raised middle.
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  Speaker 1: Endfielder it looked like he was setting his body to
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  Speaker 1: make the throat a second you know where you kind
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  Speaker 1: of he was getting. Down he got down low, enough
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  Speaker 1: but he was like shifting his body to make that.
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  Speaker 3: Pivot this is WHY i didn't even. Try.
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  Speaker 1: Man all, right let's let the first basement and corner
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  Speaker 1: outfielder answer.
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  Speaker 3: Former former third Baseman Mark. Trumbull let's Hitter.
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  Speaker 2: Vaughn, okay here's WHAT i, saw AND i watched it
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  Speaker 2: a number of. Times he he's got excellent, hands excellent,
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  Speaker 2: hands and he does some very special. Things what he
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  Speaker 2: didn't do is move his feet at. All if you
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: look on the, replay at least on the, app you're
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  Speaker 2: going to see the better make contact and then you're
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  Speaker 2: going to see him entirely stationary for the distance the
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  Speaker 2: ball traveled to. Me relying on his hands to make that.
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  Speaker 2: Play he's he has good, hands but the ball ate him.
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  Speaker 2: Up he didn't move his, feet he didn't have those
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  Speaker 2: extra couple little steps to create a, hop and, yes
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  Speaker 2: the ball went underneath, him but it was because of
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  Speaker 2: his poor footwork on that play in particular that cost.
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  Speaker 2: Him and there was a, big big moment in the.
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  Speaker 2: Game they kind of spiraled from there al twoveys wasn't
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  Speaker 2: an easy. PLAY i don't think that was that easy
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  Speaker 2: for any. Pitcher And spackman he's going to need to
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  Speaker 2: do a better job of slowing the game. DOWN i
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: think a couple of these, guys a lot of these young.
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  Speaker 2: Guys you can see it's almost visible how things start
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  Speaker 2: to speed up and those eyes get pretty. Wide and
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: Why parraza was not in that ball, game, well you,
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  Speaker 2: KNOW i don't.
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  Speaker 1: Know, WELL i was going to say that EIGHT ht
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  Speaker 1: listeners is why we have a former big leader on the.
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  Speaker 1: SHOW i also question If Sam bachman was. AVAILABLE i
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: don't know if he was available TO i don't know
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  Speaker 1: If kurt wanted to limit him to one or two
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  Speaker 1: batters he pitched the, Day why doesn't he start the
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  Speaker 1: ninth could not figure that one out as, well just
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  Speaker 1: a whole.
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  Speaker 2: Lot why don't you pitch the?
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  Speaker 1: Ninth, well that's the. THING i agree with you. Totally
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  Speaker 1: the ninth inning is a different. BEAST i don't care
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  Speaker 1: what part of the order you're, in whether it's the
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  Speaker 1: heart of the. ORDER i understand their reasoning Wanting Zephyr,
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  Speaker 1: john who is their best reliever right, now to face
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: the top of the. Order in the, eighth but you,
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  Speaker 1: know you have to have a decent option on the ninth.
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  Speaker 1: Inning and if he wasn't going to Start bachmann in
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  Speaker 1: the ninth why why Pitch Zephyr john in the? EIGHTH
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  Speaker 1: U this leads us to our next. Question and we've
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: been we and everybody else have been a little rough
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: On kurtsuzuki the rookie. Manager where do we think his
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: long term or short term? Future does he have a
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: long term or short term? Future And, anaheim my guess is.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: NO i think After mozaillac hires the general, manager if
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: he indeed, does the first order of business is going
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: to be to hire a new. MANAGER i JUST i
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: just can't see this working out For. Kurt just there's
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: been a lot of games like this where there have
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: been a lot of moves that seem to make sense
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: to even the most laymen of, fans and then you
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: see innings like the ninth inning last. NIGHT i don't
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: think it goes well for. Him any.
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: THOUGHTS i, Mean i'll a'll jump in. HERE i, MEAN
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: i think the death nell was when he signed a
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: one year contract to be the manager of The, angels
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: and then when you take that and you couple that
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: with a NEW gm who's eventually going to come. IN i,
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: MEAN i think you're absolutely. Right, like first of, all
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: like we see this, historically a new general manager is
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: going to come, in and they're going to want to
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: hire their own, manager and they're going to want to
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: assemble their own coaching staff under that new. Manager and,
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: LOOK i MEAN i have not been Watching angels games
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: as intently and as closely and as routinely as you guys,
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: have BUT i it seems to me from the outside that, Like,
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: LOOK i Think kurt was put in a tough. SITUATION
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: i don't blame him for taking this, Job like who
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: wouldn't want an opportunity to be a major league manager
• 10:59
  Speaker 3: the thirty of these, jobs but he went directly from
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: the front, office hadn't been too far removed from playing
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: correct me If i'm. Wrong he doesn't have any traditional
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: major league coaching.
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: Experience HIS t ball, TEAM i think or something like.
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: That, yeah and and to jump into like having this
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: sort of front office role where you're like quasi and baseball,
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: operations but not fully in the weeds. Either and then
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: now you're commanding a room and you're trying to make
• 11:28
  Speaker 3: these decisions on a day in and day out basis,
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: Like i'm sure it hasn't gone. GREAT i wouldn't have
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: expected it to go. Great Uh and so, NO i.
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: DON'T i THINK i. Know John mazeliak said when he
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: came in that he was going to give everybody the,
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: year which is what he should, do, right like take
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: the season or what remains of, it to assess what
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: you have and give people a fair. Shake there's no
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: need to make a change in. Season but, NO i.
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: DON'T i would be shocked If kurtsuzuki were the manager
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: of The angels in twenty twenty seven and.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: Beyond And mark Well well, said it's been a tough.
• 12:08
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  Speaker 1: And welcome back To Halo territory With Alden, Gonzalez Smart
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  Speaker 1: trumbo And Mike Di. Giovanna, well this next topic was
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: somewhat inspired by a QUESTION i got ON x the other,
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: day and we've talked about this in the show, before
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: but it's kind of a basic.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: Question.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: Mike my question is Why Mike trout doesn't just tap
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: out already demand a. Trade no one would criticize him
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: for a. SECOND i don't know What this tweet just
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: kind of resonated with me for some, reason AND i just,
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: thought with three guys on the, show we Have Mark,
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: trumbo a former teammate Of Mike. Trout we Have Alden
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: gonzalez and myself who Were angels beat writers During trout's
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: rookie year of twenty two. Twelve we've known him for
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: his entire fifteen year career In. Anaheim we both have
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: been to his hometown Of, Millville New, jersey know his parents.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: Well So i'm just trying to figure. Out you, Know
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: Mike trout obviously has a no trade, clause so he
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: controls whether he stays or. GOES i believe it's one
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: hundred and forty two million leftenis contract four more. Years
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: The angels are well on their way to their eleventh
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: straight losing. Season why doesn't this guy just ask?
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: Out? Mark you want to think that?
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: First or SHOULD? I this is why you were on the, show.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: Sir, LOOK I i started asking a lot of other
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: Fro An office executives About Mike. TROUT i want to,
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: Say i'm going to get the timing of this, wrong
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: BECAUSE i don't remember exactly when it was That John
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: MAZZILLI i came, in but around you and asking people
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: who Know Mike trout pretty well all about the, situation
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: and you would hear sort of differing. Accounts one was
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: the one that you hear the most, often which is, that,
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: Look Mike trout has given zero indication that he wants to.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: Leave he's, loyal he wants to stay, here and criticize
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: that all you, want it's what he. Wants he has
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: no desire to. LEAVE i did hear from others that
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: they could, sense and maybe if they didn't hear this,
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: directly they could kind of sense like he understands that
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: he's getting later in his, career he's not going to
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: get many more opportunities to try to. Win. It obviously
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: hasn't been going, well and he's starting to soften on
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: maybe be more open to going somewhere. Else and THEN
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: i also you coupled that with the fact that we
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: are entering a trademarket and it looked like it then
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: and especially looks like it now where there's a lot
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: of teams that need right handed, bats there's no right
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: handed hitting offense, available mostly because the right handed hitting
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: is down throughout the. GAME i, mean look at what
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: The nationals got For Curtis mead just recently got a
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: really young mid rotation starter for a guy who's about
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: to be a free. Agent that's the price of right
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: handed hitting. Offense and when you look at the fact
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: that like The yankees With Aaron judge and his rip,
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: situation The phillies losing A Dollas garcia for the, YEAR i, thought,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: man those are two really good fits For Mike. Trout
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: teams that are close to his, hometown teams with the
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: payroll flexibility to take this. On maybe this is the
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: year that this could. Happen and Then perrymanasien has. Fired
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: John moselliat comes in AND i haven't Heard Mike trout's name,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: mentioned not even one. Time and for whatever that's, worth,
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: right like maybe other people, HAVE i have, not his
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: name does not come. UP i think at least part
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: of the reason for, this outside of maybe his own.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: Proclivities he, said this is a big. Lift this is
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: a very heavy, lift especially one to take on for
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: someone who just got, here and to figure this out
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: in a. Week and if we're talking just about him
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: being traded before the trade, deadline think about everything that
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: needs to fall into place. Here it needs to be number.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: One it's one hundred and forty two million dej after this,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: season it's one hundred and sixty million if you pro
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: rate the rest of this. Year i've asked, around like
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: how much do The angels need to absorb of that
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: in order to get a decent. Return the NUMBER i
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: got back was like sixty seventy million. Dollars, okay that's.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Nothing that's not nothing to give up the guy who's
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: going to go in The hall Of fame in your. Cap.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Okay number two is like my trout needs to be
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: willing to obviously exercise is no trade. Clause does he
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: want to go To? Philly i'm sure you guys have
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: talked about this. Before there are people who said, before
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: like maybe he doesn't want to play In, Philadelphia like
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: that's a. Lot you, know it's not the greatest fan
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: base if you're not doing. Well does he WANT i don't.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Know he's never told me this. PERSONALLY i WANT i
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: should state, that but Also artie has got to be
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: one to do. THIS i have heard that Because Mike
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: trout has been so loyal that already would do this for.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Him If Mike trout were hell bent on getting. Traded
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: AND i don't know that he's there, yet and if
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: there are conversations going on behind the scenes THAT i
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: don't know, about maybe that's. POSSIBLE i don't think he's.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: THERE i wonder if maybe this is an off season,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: thing especially once number, one we learn more about what
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: The angel's direction, is and we're going to know a
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: lot more about that in a. Week a week from,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: today we will know a lot more about The angel's
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: direction that we do right. Now and also once we
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: know What Major League baseball's economic situation is going to,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: be because you can't be The yankees or The phillies
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: and take on a contract like that if you're gonna
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: face much stricter economic penalties in twenty twenty seven and
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: beyond with the NEW. Cba so it might even still
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: be a stretch for this. Offseason BUT i think definitely
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: now this is far more an off season thing than
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: it is a tread trade dead light. Thing it's just
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: it's not.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: HAPPENING i agree with all in THAT i do believe
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: If mike were to Force arty's, HANDS i think there
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: would be already would agree to at least try to move.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Him.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Mark Has mike trub grown too comfortable In anaheim In Orange?
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: County is that one of the factors involved in this whole.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: THING i don't.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: KNOW i.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: He likes playing for The. ANGELS i mean there's a
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: there's a point that could be made that he wants
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: to win playing for The. Angels how far away is
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: this team from winning baseball would be a question Maybe
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: alden could speculate on if he if he would be
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: nice enough to but there could there could be a
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: big part of it that he, says you know, What
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: i've been here this. Long it sure would be nice
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: to get it done for this ball. Club right. Now
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: it's not a pretty picture and it could at very much.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Worse could have worded that. Better but if they move more,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: pieces if they move starting pitching that we keep hearing.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: About i'm sure there's you, know eight rumors while we've
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: been doing the show about teams interested In Reed detmer's
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: And Jose. Soriano we'll see if they do do anything with.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Them the returns for young. Prospects we covered that last,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: time it's it's a, gamble it's a big. Gamble but
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: prospect capital is also. Valuable they're going to have a
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: season next year that might factor. Too and some, guys,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: yeah living here is very comfortable in what you're talking.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: About being on a losing ball club that might lose
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: one hundred games is very. Uncomfortable makes for a very
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: long season when you're out of. It AND i, mean
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: when was this team really out of, Contention? Mike or
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: are they out of? It that's the way The Al
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: west looks.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Garbage the aos refuses to leave them.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Behind, mark you can you answer a question for? Me
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: AND i asked this not specifically For Mike, trout but in,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: general people always and, fine, okay it's maybe it's a
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Very Mic trout, gear but people always often talk about
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: like he lives in. WHEREVER i don't know if he
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: lives In Newport beach Or i'm Sure I'm i'm, Sure
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: i'm sure he lives somewhere very, nice And i'm sure
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: it's by the. Water but like when you're in a
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: major league, schedule especially when you Are Mike, trout who
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: has your, home your off season home In South. Jersey
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: you built this incredible, estate and then during the, season
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: you're traveling all the. Time when you're, home you're at the,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: ballpark you get some random off days at, home and
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: then in the off season you're. Gone how much does
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: that really? Matter, Like i'm sure waking up every day
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: and it's sunny out is very, Nice but, like is
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: that really a? Factor like it's not as if his
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: kids go to school. Here i'm sure his kids are. Homeschooled,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: like how how much does that actually? Matter? Right, LIKE
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: i feel like when you're in the grind of a
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: major league, scheduling you live elsewhere in the off, SEASON
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: i location doesn't really matter that? Much AM i?
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Wrong you're? Okay it does, Matter it matters a. LOT I,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: mean these are things that factor. In like The Blue,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: jets for, example how are they able to attract more
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: talent to sign? There they were having a hard time doing.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: It they manage huge, upgrades more, money but what did
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: they really they?
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Do, okay but you're talking about you're talking about.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Infrastructure, family that's that, city the family.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Area, yeah that's, different though.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: It's not that different because what The, dodgers The dodgers
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: excel at That.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about. Cities i'm talking about. Neighborhood that's What
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: i'm not talking about. Ballpark you, Know i'm.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Not GONNA i played in a few, well one team
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: that maybe not the nicest. Downtown you can you can
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: piece that together if you. Want does THAT i mean
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: it does matter, driving you, know on pH or having
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: somebody forcing themselves on you to wash your windows with a,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: squeeze AND i Mean East coast, thing but it does.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Matter AND i don't, know you, know it's nice to
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: hear that that already WOULD i don't know If trout
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: could force his hand. NECESSARILY i already still owns this ball,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: club and it would be his choice if he wanted
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: to make something happen and eat some. MONEY i mean
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: he's had to eat some money before this, year included
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: guy In. Houston but it's just a tough. DEAL i
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: don't see him going. Anywhere and partly, too he wants
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: to play center. FIELD i can't get off of that.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Fact he thinks that's best for his health and his,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: career and not all these teams would probably be as
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: apt to have him out there every. Day if you're
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: looking at the analytics and some of those.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Things, yeah, HEY i might be, wrong but isn't it
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: supposed to be always sunny In? Philadelphia THAT i miss
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: that last question Regarding. Trout spend twelve years since he
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: played in a playoff, game and it wasn't a good.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Experience The angels were swept by The royals in twenty.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: FOURTEEN i Think mike did hit a home run in that,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: series BUT i think he went one for.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Twelve how do we Think.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Mike would respond if all of a sudden he was
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: traded to a contender and thrust Into october? BASEBALL i
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: personally think it would invigorate his his. CAREER i think
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: he needs it for his. CAREER i totally get What
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: mark's saying about being, comfortable but my, goodness it's been
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: eleven straight losing seasons.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Here how comfortable is?
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: THAT i just it seems like all of, baseball or
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: good portion of, baseball maybe a certain segment Of angels
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: fans would, disagree is really rooting For Mike trout to
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: go to a contending, team whether it's The, dodgers The,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: yankees The, phillies even The. Rays that's probably not gonna,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: happen but they want to See Mike trout play In,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: october and he's. GOOD i think he turns thirty five In.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: August you, know what does he have? LEFT i think
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: whatever Might trout has, left he needs something to stimulate.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: That AND i Think october baseball is the only. Cure
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: what are you guys?
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: THERE i do one THING i know About Mike, trout
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: and a lot of people who've been around him a lot,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: say is like he's very, polite not necessarily like he's a,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: pleaser but he's he's just he wants to do right by.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: People AND i say this like with the highest. Compliment
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: AND i do wonder if like there's still a part
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: of him that thinks that he would get criticized and
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: he would hurt a lot of fans if he opted.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Out and he's talked before about how he doesn't want
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: to take the easy way, out and you, Know, mark
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: you alluded to this earlier about like he wants to
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: win with The, angels and AND i, do and this
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: is just me. SPECULATING i wonder how much of this
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: is like fear of the public perception and maybe him
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: not realizing WHAT i believe to be, true which is
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: that if he exercised his no trade clause and went
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: to a. CONTENDER i don't think there is a Single
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: angels fan who would fault him for, That AND i
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: think you're you're, Right, LIKE i think people would be
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: happy for. Him and it goes back to WHAT i
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: said about. Already he has shown his loyalty to this.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Organization he has signed two extensions, here he has battled
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: so many. Injuries, uh and he has just toughed it
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: out with bad team after bad team after bad. Team
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: he Went AND i think this was like a nice
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: sort of bookend if it ends up being a bookend
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: to his time with The, angels to go back be
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: An All, star play in The All Star game In
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: philadelphia in An angel's, uniform, Right LIKE i wonder IF
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: i wonder If mike doesn't fully grasp the fact that
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: he has carte, blanche he can. Leave he will still be.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Beloved there's nobody who's going to be angry at, him
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: and maybe he doesn't see.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: That just be.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Speculating what do you, Think, mark how would how Would
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Mike trout look on That october?
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: STAGE i think that, uh, WELL i don't. Know i'm
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: not good with. Speculating. Uh i'd like to say that
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: he'd contribute in a big way for a team that
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: could use a guy with The hall Of fame. Credentials
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: but personality, wise he's very easy. Going he's very laid.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Back.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Uh that that does not escape. Me he's never had
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: a single you, know, well he's done things the right.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Way he's a true. Professional he keeps his head. Down
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: he's not looking for the. Attention you go to a
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: place Like, Philadelphia New, york you're going to get all
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: the attention and you're going to get all the. Scrutiny.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Uh he's not the prime version of Of Mike, trout
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: but he's still a very capable player at an excellent
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: series In San. Francisco. Uh and these things are tough
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: BECAUSE i don't, know but i'd like to say when
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: A World SERIES. Mvp and speaking of, That, allen one last,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: question if you wouldn't, mind did The angels somewhat dodge
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: a bullet with the phenomenal two way player across? Town
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: is this? Knee it looks seems like he's got a
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: balky knee and he's not making his starts on the.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Mound what's going on?
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: There, yeah as everybody always, says like the could, thing
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: The angels didn't bring back Show Hal tani because that
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: would have been, just, oh can you imagine where this
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: franchise would have. Been, NO i think you, know it
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: was talked about a lot early in the, year AND
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: i think it's very. Relevant Shoho tani is trying to
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: be a two way player for the first time in three,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: years and what has happened in that three year stretches
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: that he became thirty two years, old and a thirty
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: two year old versus a twenty eight year, old even
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: that short of, difference their body doesn't respond the same,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: way and you, know it's a problem to, Me like
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: The dodgers perpetually slow play their pictures because for, them
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: it's all About. October and you've seen this With Blake
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: snow And Tyler glass now and when sho Hee otani
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: first sort of took a break from, pitching he was
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: scratched from his last, start from his first start after
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: The All star break because of the, KNEE i, Thought,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: okay they're slow playing. Him they want to keep his innings.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Down it's their way to tell, Him, look you're not
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: going to contend for the Cy Young. Award it doesn't.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Matter you're going to pitch In. October but then he
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: throws a bullpen session In philadelphia and his new doesn't respond,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: well and all of a, sudden he's got it back off.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Again and that's where like red flags go off in my.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Head maybe they're being. Cautious he says it doesn't affect his,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: hitting but he hasn't been hitting, well and it JUST
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: i think when we watch him do, this we can
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: take this for. Granted there's a reason why nobody's done
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: this Since Babe. Ruth it's very, hard and it's very
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: hard when you're thirty two years old to juggle both.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Things things come, Up things come up all the, time
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: and if any one thing comes, up interrupts the entire.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Operation and that's what we're navigating right. Now big difference
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: with The dodgers as compared to The, angels. Though The
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: angel let them do whatever he wanted to, do and
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: The dodgers give him more leeway than they do other.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Players don't get me, wrong but it's very clear that
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: The dodgers have stepped in and told, them, hey you
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: need to back off, here you need to back off,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: there you need to take what he's. Up he doesn't want,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: them but he's had to and they've at least gotten
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: him to come around on that.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Stuff all, right we're taking one more quick break and
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: we'll be right back with some trade deadline.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Talk it's always a hope with this. Guy it's always a.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Hope OH i hope he stays. Healthy oh we hope he's.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: Good Jason miller to The San Diego padres. Trade let's
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: get To Shane. Bieber he is A toronto bou. Jay
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: let's hit the inside SCOOP a tifty senior. Insider ken
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: rosenkof The astros have Got Carlos correa back To.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Houston just Like Ajaid browler, said you ain't in the big.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Lenks you, KNOW i got a big one.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Under a, minute under a.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Minute we are one week away from the trade deadline
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: and this is this is another COMMENT i got ON
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: x and it's really as quick and it's says a
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: lot interesting times In. Anaheim this week could reshape the
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: future of the ball. Club, well we've heard a lot
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Of angels trade rumors Involving Zach nettojo was A, Soriano
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Reid detmer's all the other guys who were on expiring.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Contracts guys how. Active do we feel like The angels
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: are going to? Be how different will this team look
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: in one. WEEK i think it's very.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: SIMPLE i think if other teams meet the demands That
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: John mozeliak have for certain, players those guys will, move
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: and if they, don't those guys will. Not what those
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: demands are, SPECIFICALLY i don't. KNOW i think it's interesting
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: you talk To cardinals. People John mozelic was obviously the
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: head of their baseball operations department for a long. Time
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: John mozellic was known in positive and negative ways to
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: be very very conservative in his time with The. Cardinals
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: dealing controllable, players making risky trades was is not something
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: that he. Did But i've heard since he got to
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: The angels that like he's very open to listening on
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: their guys for a couple of. Reasons number, one these
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: are not his. Guys he didn't draft, them he didn't develop,
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: them he has no ties to them. Whatsoever and number,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: two he acknowledges that this team is far away and
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: that this team needs to make. CHANGES i, think to
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: answer the question more, DIRECTLY i think one Of soriano
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: And dever's. GOES i would be surprised if one of
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: them is not, traded do both of them? Go i'm not.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Sure the big question And i'm not revealing anything new.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Here the big question for me is Does Zach nettle.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: GO i think that's going to be the big. One,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: obviously he's going to yield the biggest return when you
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: think about a premium position a guy who's. CONTROLLABLE i
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: think it's through twenty. Thirty you guys can correct me
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: If i'm, Wrong but that's a lot of control for that.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: GUY a right handed. Bat we talked earlier about how
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: much of a premium right handed hitters are going to
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: be at this. DEADLINE i think that the man is
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: going to be very. HIGH i don't know if somebody's
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: going to meet, it but if somebody, DOES i think
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: he will. Move BUT i think just more big picture
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: with this, Organization like, WELL i should state one other,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: thing how involved Is Lardy marino going to? Be, like
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: at the end of the, Day Ardi moreno's still going
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: to have to sign off on these. Traits is Already
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: marino going to be okay with ultimately Trading Zach netto
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: and doing a bigger sort of teardown of this. TEAM
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: i thought it was interesting That moziliak said that he
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: doesn't believe The angels have to. Rebuild that's the mindset
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: that got this team in so much. Trouble that's why they're,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Here that's why it's been twelve years since they made the,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: playoffs because every Every july they try to position themselves
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: to win the following year when they're not close at.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: All AND i think you have to take a big
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: picture look at this team and, Think, okay we're not
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: extending Zach. Neto all, right they would have already if
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: they were going. To they're not going to do. That
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: it doesn't look like they're going to Extend read Det
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: merz And Jose soriano or Jo adell who's going to
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: be a free agent after next, year right Or Logan
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: ohappy who clearly like the catching has not been working.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Out so if those guys are not part of the,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: future if these guys that were highly touted for so
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: long By perrimanazi and as being the emerging core is
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: not going to be there by the time you're, competitive
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: AND i don't think they will be BECAUSE i don't
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: think The angels are close enough that these guys would
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: still be. Controllable you have to part ways with, them,
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: okay all of. Them if it's not, now it's in
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: the off. Season but this, organization for the first time
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: in a long, time needs to take a really hard
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: look at, itself, okay and be willing to absorb bad
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: seasons for a couple of years to reposition itself to
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: be a true, contender because they've already had to absorb
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: this even without taking the steps to make themselves better
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: in the. Future and this has to be the, time
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: like you brought in somebody from the. Outside you did
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: this clearly because you want to someone to have fresh
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: eyes on this. Organization this is just my, opinion go
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: all the way, Right, like if not this trade that.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: LINE i understand some deals are easier to make in
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: the off, season but it's time for this organization to
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: take a really hard look at itself and make some
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: bold moves for the.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Future, Yeah i'm going to give my input and Give
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: mark the last word on this. TOPIC i agree with
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: all AND i think one of the pictures is definitely
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: GOING i think it's going to Be, soriano just that left.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: HANDED i think Debt meer's at this point his upside
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: looks a little, higher might be worth keeping him to
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: build your rotation. AROUND i THINK i think Zach neto
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: WHAT i see as a market that is the probably
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: the most fruitful trade market you're going to get for
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: a guy like Zach, neto the right handed. BAT i
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: just feel like The angels are soured on this kid a,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: little and we've been hard on him on the, show
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: probably for the same reasons The angels are starting to
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: sour on. Him this could be the time get the
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: most for. Him and if they would have if they
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: wanted to lock him, UP i agree they would have
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: done that in spring, training or at least. Tried it
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: does not appear that that was the. Case and anybody,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: else if they can get anything decent for any you,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: know whether It's Joe, Adell Jorge, solaire any of these,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: GUYS i think they're gonna go for. It we talked
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: on our last show About Zephyr, john another guy who
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: might actually get you two pretty good prospects right.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Now it'd be really interesting to see.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: If he stays or. Goes and we're gonna leave the
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: last word For Mark, trumbo the trade deadline expert.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Anything BUT i did see somebody is checking in On Raffie.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Devers it could be The. Angels oh, boy he had
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: a nice weekend up In San. Francisco marfact that he
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: likes his power.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Bat you know when he's a good, player but he
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: costs a, fortune and there's so many there's so much
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: baggage with that.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Guy it's just. Money. Money just bring him in and
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: you bring in a couple other guys and maybe you
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: got something to you, know work, with or you trade
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: them all. Away AND i don't know what the next
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: couple of years will look, like if there is a
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: next year for. Baseball but that's, great some great stuff,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: today very, thorough very. Informed that was that was very
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: nice you to come.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: On, yeah we'd appreciate. IT ag always great to hear
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