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- 1:11CJ, how you doing this week? I'm doing great. I had to
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- 2:00Malia, they are here for you this morning. If you've got a retirement
- 2:04related question, love to get you on the air. Six O eight three
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- 2:09We can be talking medicare this week on the program. But before we get
- 2:13rolling on this week's conversation, one of the really cool things also that goes
- 2:16on on the show. It's the Class Quiz Question the Week and this week
- 2:20chance to win a twenty five dollars gift card to Olive Garden from our friends
- 2:23at Class Financial. Little tip if you listen closely to the program, oftentimes
- 2:27both the question and answer to the Class Quiz Question the Week come up during
- 2:30the show, so pay close attention. We'll tell you a little bit later
- 2:34exactly how you can win that twenty five dollars gift card to the Olive Garden.
- 2:37And before we get rolling on this week's topic and this week's conversation,
- 2:40let's actually take a look back at last week's Class Quiz Question the Week and
- 2:44review the question and answer there as well. Yeah, so we appreciate everyone
- 2:49who listens every week and tries to guess the answer to our question last week
- 2:53Jeff of Madison, Congratulations to him. He correctly answered the following question,
- 2:59what is a maxim amount you can contribute to either a traditional and roth for
- 3:04owen k between the both or singular singularly in twenty twenty three, if you're
- 3:09over fifty years old and you have enough earned income, so is it thirty
- 3:14thousand or fifty thousand? He correctly answered it's thirty thousand if you're over fifty,
- 3:20so that's twenty two thousand and five hundred. Everybody can contribute that if
- 3:23they have enough earned income, plus a seventy five hundred dollars ketchup which brings
- 3:29us to that thirty thousand dollars number. So congratulations to Jeff. Listening carefully
- 3:32for today's question, and don't forget if you missed last week's program, you
- 3:36can also listen back at class financial dot com. That's klaas financial dot com.
- 3:40And for folks who are about to turn sixty five, I know some
- 3:44of us have questions. Of them have questions, and of course got some
- 3:47very important information today when it regards to Medicare CJ. What are some of
- 3:53those things that folks need to be aware of and need to know. Yeah,
- 3:57So we're going to be discussing Medicare Medicaid today, and these are important
- 4:01programs for Americans to know about since the vast majority of US are actually paying
- 4:06through our payroll taxes money into Medicare. Now you may say where, I
- 4:11don't see it on my pay stub, and it's under the FICA so FICAS
- 4:15part Social Security known as OASDI, and then the other piece is Medicare.
- 4:19It's only gosh, I don't even remember the percentage two percent, two and
- 4:24a half percent something like that goes out of each of your kind of paychecks
- 4:28into that Medicare piece. But it's important therefore for you to know not only
- 4:32what Social Security is all about, which we've talked about, you know,
- 4:35a bunch of times on this program, but also how Medicare will work for
- 4:40you in the future. So our first disclaimer is, although we are some
- 4:44of us are insurance licensed, we don't work a lot directly in the space,
- 4:47and so as we talk about it with clients, and good news is
- 4:50we're licensed to discuss it, but the vast majority of the time we are
- 4:54just going to refer you out to a specialist in this area. So by
- 4:59all means we discu as with our clients. We'll get into as much detail
- 5:01as we can, but at some point you'll have to work with a specialist.
- 5:04So first, let's start with a simple question for everyone, which is
- 5:09at what age does a person today qualify for Medicare coverage? And of course
- 5:14the answer is age sixty five is the first time that an American can move
- 5:18onto a national healthcare plan known as Medicare. This is not to be confused
- 5:24with your Social Security full retirement age. We hear this all the time.
- 5:29We will say, hey, when do you first qualify for Medicare? And
- 5:31people go sixty six or sixty seven. I go, no, you're thinking
- 5:34of social Security, So Medicare you are first typically eligible at age sixty five.
- 5:41You should know that if you are already receiving Social Security benefits when you
- 5:45turn sixty five, So I think of those people who started at sixty two,
- 5:47sixty three, sixty four. If you're already receiving Social Security benefits,
- 5:51you will automatically be enrolled in the Medicare Parts A and B when you turn
- 5:56sixty five without an additional application. However, because you must pay a premium
- 6:02for PARP coverage. You do have the option of turning it down in case
- 6:06you get health insurance from somewhere else. You will receive a Medicare card about
- 6:12two months before you turn age sixty five. And by the way, you
- 6:15will also get a boatload of mailings. If anybody wants to call in and
- 6:18tell us how many mailings they've gotten, I'm sure it's hundreds, if not
- 6:23thousands of mailings as you're getting close to age sixty five. And then one
- 6:27thing we wanted to highlight is the difference between Medicare and Medicade. This often
- 6:32is an area of confusion for people. Medicare, which is what we're focusing
- 6:36on here today. Medicare is a federal health insurance program for people's sixty five
- 6:42and older and younger disabled people and dialysis patients. Again, that's Medicare,
- 6:47whereas Medicaide is an assistance program for low income patience medical expenses. This is
- 6:56what you'll often hear about when you hear people say, oh, so and
- 7:00so went into a nursing home and they ran out of money, and now
- 7:02they're on Medicaid or they're in a Medicaid bed. So this is where I've
- 7:08run out of my own private money, but I still need medical assistance.
- 7:12I am now often being covered by Medicaid. So they are two different things.
- 7:16Talking this morning with our retirement planning professional CJ Closs Emlee Aquavis, if
- 7:19you've got a question, love to get you on the air six O eight
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- 7:26learn more about Class Financial on their website class financial dot com. That's klaas
- 7:30Financial dot com and their telephone number six O eight four four two five six
- 7:34three seven. No charge for that initial get to know your appointment dit Class
- 7:38Financial. It will be complementary to you. Again, they're telephone number six
- 7:42O eight four four two five six three seven. And CJ you mentioned all
- 7:45those mailers and all that information. Other thing I see a lot is commercials
- 7:49and here and read about different parts of Medicare. There's a lot there to
- 7:55know, also, isn't there there is? So Bully and I meet with
- 7:59a lot of people as they're retiring and then of course as they're getting close
- 8:03to age sixty five thinking about signing up for Medicare and social Security and all
- 8:07these different things. And so I will just admit to you all, it's
- 8:11about as clear as mud when you first when you first engage Medicare, But
- 8:16of course for people like us who deal in it literally every single day,
- 8:18it becomes a little bit clearer over time, but it's it's constantly changing.
- 8:22So we are going to try to define for you some of the different parts
- 8:26of Medicare. Malia will get this into this a little bit further in her
- 8:30section, but just know again, we would highly, highly highly suggest that
- 8:33you talk to your financial planner, who hopefully can connect you with a kind
- 8:37of a Medicare specialist as you start going down this path. But yes,
- 8:41there's different parts to Medicare. Again, we are focusing on Medicare today,
- 8:45not Medicaid. There's different parts to it. Medicare Part A is known as
- 8:48the Hospital insurance. This Part A covers inpatient hospital stays in a skilled nursing
- 8:56facility. It also covers hospice care and some other basic health care. This
- 9:01part is free now, truth be told. Anytime somebody tells you something is
- 9:05free, the question is who's really paying for it? And the answer is
- 9:07no, You've already prepaid for this undermost circumstances. So there's no additional cost
- 9:13for Medicare Party or I'm sorry, Part A, because you've been paying those
- 9:18ICA or Medicare payroll taxes over all those years, except for some people haven't
- 9:24actually done this long enough. So you have to have at least ten years
- 9:26or forty quarters of Medicare payroll taxes in order to qualify for Medicare. If
- 9:31you don't have that, then some people who are not eligible for that quote
- 9:35unquote free Part A, they will pay a monthly premium of up to five
- 9:39hundred and six dollars per month in twenty twenty three, So again typically free
- 9:46for those who have had enough years of paying into the Medicare system, and
- 9:48if not, it can be pretty hefty. And if you don't buy Part
- 9:52A when you first become eligible at sixty five, you might even pay a
- 9:58penalty on an ongo basis. So what I would say is, as you
- 10:01are approaching age sixty five, even if you're still working, and even if
- 10:05you're not drawing Social Security and you have like a workplace health insurance plan,
- 10:09I would still slow down and make sure that you get signed up for part
- 10:13AY and anything else that you might need. As it relates to Medicare now
- 10:18Medicare Part B is the other piece. This is known as the medical insurance
- 10:22and it covers certain doctor services, outpatient care, medical supplies, and preventative
- 10:28services. The standard Medicare Part B premium amount is one hundred and sixty four
- 10:33dollars and ninety cents per month as of the year twenty twenty three. And
- 10:37this is per person. However, some people are saying, but, but,
- 10:41but, and that's right. The butt but butt here is it depends
- 10:45upon your income. If your income gets too high, and this is known
- 10:48as what's called your modified adjusted gross income. That's just your adjusted gross income
- 10:54with some ad backs if you have them. But long story short, you're
- 10:56modified adjust gross income. If it gets too high, then you can actually
- 11:00pay these things called erma's income related monthly adjustment amounts. I like to just
- 11:05call them penalties, but some people don't like that terminology. So you pay
- 11:11more for the same thing if your income is too high, call it what
- 11:13you want to call it, but it can go as high as five hundred
- 11:18and sixty dollars per month for that same benefit Medicare Part B if your income
- 11:22is too high. This is one of the reasons why people like us spend
- 11:26a lot of time reviewing tax returns, income sources, things like that,
- 11:30so that we can be cautious of not spiking your income. We had a
- 11:33client not too long ago just say hey, I want to take out one
- 11:35hundred grand to pay off my mortgage and buy a vehicle, which we're all
- 11:39four we want you to use cash to do things, but it was going
- 11:43to spike their income to go two levels up into Medicare, which was going
- 11:46to penalize them something like seventy five dollars a month per person for a year,
- 11:50and they decided just to do it over two years instead of one to
- 11:52avoid that. So be cautious with Medicare Part B because it is income dependent
- 11:58in term that terms of that premium. Also, as it relates to that
- 12:03Medicare Part B premium, you can have that covered out of your Social Security
- 12:07benefits, so also known as reduced from your Social Security income if you are
- 12:11also simultaneously drawing. If you're not, then it has to come out of
- 12:16a checking account. Talking this morning with our retirement planning professionals from Class Financial,
- 12:20CJ Class and Malia Quavis, our phone lines are open for you right
- 12:24now at six O eight three two one thirteen ten. That's six O eight
- 12:26three two one thirteen ten. Love to get you on the air with Malia
- 12:30and CJ on this beautiful morning. Don't forget as well. If you ever
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- 12:41six O eight four four two five six three seven. That first deployment at
- 12:45Class Financially eight is complementary to you again their telephone number six O eight four
- 12:48four two five six three seven. What about that Part D, c J.
- 12:54Yeah, so I'm almost done with my section, I promise. So
- 12:58yes, we talked about part A Part B. Now we're going to talk
- 13:01about Part D, which again constitutes a monthly charge. Often the average monthly
- 13:07premium of varies according to your needs and the plan that you are one and
- 13:13coverage, so this is one additional premium cost and you'll be subject to copayments,
- 13:18deductible's other out of pockets costs. There's things known as the donut hole.
- 13:22So there's a lot to know about prescriptions if you're on a lot of
- 13:26them. But Part D is known as a prescription coverage, much like Part
- 13:31B, which is a medical insurance piece Part D. If your income is
- 13:35too high, you can pay those Part D irmas again income related Medicare adjustment
- 13:39amounts, So you have to be cautious of your income getting too high because
- 13:41it not only penalizes you or charges you more on the Part B, but
- 13:45also on the Part D. Now Medicare Parts C. This is also known
- 13:50as Medicare advantage. This is I just want people. When you hear Medicare
- 13:54Parts C or a Medicare advantage, this is what in the industry we would
- 13:58call going off of traditional Medicare. Now that's not something you shouldn't necessarily do
- 14:05it, just there's you have to be cautious of it because typically when you
- 14:09go onto Medicare Parts C or Medicare Advantage, you're actually getting Parts A,
- 14:15Part B and Part D with one bundled insurance policy for all Medicare coverage.
- 14:20They also offer extra coverages for things like dental vision hearing prescriptions, and like
- 14:24traditional Medicare, you would be subject to copays, deductibles, and other out
- 14:30of pockets costs. But here's the key. Often Medicare Parts c is like
- 14:35is free or very low premium and you get more benefits. So people go,
- 14:39it's the best of all worlds, and I go, you know,
- 14:41nothing's free in this world. And so the question is what am I getting
- 14:46and what am I giving up? When you go on a Medicare advantage,
- 14:50your out of pocket costs can be higher if you end up having poor health.
- 14:54So all you need to know is both have pros and cons. What
- 14:58we call staying on traditional Medicare and getting a Medicare supplement, which Malia will
- 15:03be talking about here momentarily, or going off of traditional Medicare by going on
- 15:09to Medicare Part SEA known as advantage plans. They both have frozen cons.
- 15:11You just need to know what they are and decide what is best for you.
- 15:16Talking this morning with CJ Clossmlia Quavis, our retirement planning professionals from Class
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- 16:07the things that Medicare does not cover. We'll get the details with Malia next
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- 16:34chatting this morning with our retirement planning professionals, c J, Class and Malia
- 16:37Quavis. As mentioned, they come to us from Class Financial. You can
- 16:41learn more on the website Class financial dot com. That's klaas financial dot com.
- 16:45If you've got a question right now, whether it's about Medicare or anything
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- 17:07complimentary to you again their number six O eight four four two five six three
- 17:11seven, And to get on the air this morning six O eight three two
- 17:14one thirteen ten. That's three two one thirteen ten. Talking about Medicare and
- 17:18CJ in that first segment laid out the different parts of medicare, and you're
- 17:22probably scritch head going, Okay, that sounds pretty there's a lot there to
- 17:26take in and a lot covered, but there are some things that medicare doesn't
- 17:30cover. Correct, Malia, that is correct, and so I just want
- 17:34to go back just for a moment to make sure people heard what CJ said
- 17:40correctly. First of all, CJ knows his alphabet really well. Covered a
- 17:42lot of letters this morning, and when you talked about Part A, we
- 17:47just I want to make sure it's clear because some people panic about this when
- 17:51he discussed about this part being free if you've actually paid in over the years
- 17:56for the medica through Medicare payroll taxes. This also applies if your spouse did
- 18:03and you didn't. And I hear some panic from some people. They're like,
- 18:07I I stayed home all those years, I didn't work, and so
- 18:11just know that you are going to be covered by that Medicare Part A if
- 18:15your spouse did in fact work and collect those quarters. So it's a really
- 18:18important point I've heard people get nervous about. And so when we look at
- 18:23the costs that Medicare does not cover, and CJ mentioned about the advantage plans
- 18:30out there that that might be helpful for some people, it is a bundled
- 18:33situation when we're just talking about straight Medicare, though, we have a lot
- 18:38of gaps. So you'll hear people say, well, it's not it doesn't
- 18:41cover this, It doesn't cover this, and that's where there's these medical supplemental
- 18:48insurance plans that come into play. Sometimes they're called meta gap, sometimes they're
- 18:53referred to as medsups, So there's a lot of different terms that mean the
- 18:56same thing. And so these plans are offered by private insurance companies to help
- 19:03you cover those deductibles because some people think everything's again free once you get on
- 19:07Medicare, and unfortunately that is not the case. So there's gonna be deductibles,
- 19:11co payments and other gaps that you weren't expecting. So this is where,
- 19:15again, having a specialist look at your situation, you know, honestly
- 19:21what types of prescriptions you're on health, how good your health is, and
- 19:26what we can expect that needs to be covered. So we'll talk a little
- 19:30bit about that in a minute. I did want to identify some things you
- 19:34really need to understand. There's an initial enrollment period, and that is a
- 19:38seven month period three months before your sixty fifth birthday that it includes the month
- 19:45of your birthday and three months after your sixty fifth birthday. So during that
- 19:49special seven month period of time, that initial enrollment time, you do not
- 19:55have to qualify for these policies during that period. Annual enrollment for Medicare is
- 20:00October fifteenth through December seventh every year, so that's when you can make changes.
- 20:07And again, sometimes people think once you make a decision, I can
- 20:11just forget about it for the next five years, and that's really not what
- 20:15we want you to do. You should sit down and evaluate did the plan
- 20:19or the supplemental policy actually help you, didn't, didn't make sense, has
- 20:26your health change and so forth. It's only during that time period where you
- 20:30could make changes to a different type of plan. So again, Medicare subs
- 20:34have plans A through N. This is completely different than what CJ just mentioned
- 20:40about the different parts of Medicare. The medical supplement plans A through and they're
- 20:45offered through your familiar names such as EDNA, human As, SIGNA of course,
- 20:49Blue Cross, Blue Shield, AARP, and etc. And what you
- 20:55need to understand is that each of those policies will go by the same letter.
- 21:00And if they go by the same letter plan A Medical Supplement Plan A
- 21:04at this carrier compared to another carrier, all the services and benefits have to
- 21:11be the same. However, what could be different, of course, is
- 21:15the cost. Of course, it could be the you know, who's got
- 21:18better servicing of claims, and those are all important things to kind of zero
- 21:23in on to figure out what might be the best one for you to start
- 21:26on or for you to change two. So it gets really confusing, and
- 21:32as CJ mentioned, all this all these different private companies are going to be
- 21:36sending new information. I had one client say, I don't know why I'm
- 21:40getting all this paperwork in the mail. I mean they think I'm turning sixty
- 21:44five. And the person had literally forgotten how old they were, and that's
- 21:47why they were being targeted because they were they had turned sixty five or we're
- 21:51about to turn sixty five. So there's a reason for that. People need
- 21:56to understand Medicare supplement pricing. So it ran quite a bit, but we'll
- 22:02tell you the average cost is about one hundred and fifty five dollars per month.
- 22:07It depends again on what your needs are, the company you choose,
- 22:10and your age. So you can switch Medicat plans at any time, but
- 22:15you could be charged more or denied coverage based on your health if you choose
- 22:19or change plans more than six months after signing up for Part B. So
- 22:25again, contact a local Medicare sub provider find out what's going to work best
- 22:29in your situation. One common question we get is can I get Medicare with
- 22:33a pre existing condition? Yes, even with a pre existing condition, you
- 22:37can enroll an original Medicare or a Medicare advantage plan. But you're going to
- 22:42want to find out about your situation. Talking this morning with our retirement plant
- 22:47professional CJ Class Emilia Quavis learn more online Class Financial dot com. That's Klaas
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- 23:03two five six three seven. Anything else, Malia, we need to be
- 23:06aware of in this area. Yeah, So when I'm talking about Medicare supplement
- 23:08plans, if you don't sign up when you first become eligible, the insurer
- 23:12could impose a waiting period before your coverage takes effect for any of those pre
- 23:18existing issues. So you want to make sure that you sign up when you're
- 23:21supposed to at the beginning. And one other mention, I personally know a
- 23:26few people that deal with this since nineteen. Since twenty twenty one, people
- 23:30that have end stage renal disease, they can either they can choose either original
- 23:37Medicare or Medicare advantage plans for Medicare coverage, and that's been an effect since
- 23:42twenty twenty one. Just something to be aware of, a really important thing
- 23:45to know about. Talking this morning with our retirement planning professionals Malia Quavis and
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- 24:19at age sixty five, what it needs to know when it comes to Medicare.
- 24:22We'll get the details on that. We'll do the listener question corner and
- 24:26of course the Money in Motion Class quiz question the leak. We will do
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- 24:45just a ton of information in this week's program. I know on mornings we
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- 25:21Talking this week about mediccare and all of the ins and outs and really
- 25:25kind of a great overview so far of what medicare is, different parts,
- 25:29different things. You need to be aware of one of the questions. I
- 25:32know, as we're living and staying active longer and wanting to do things that
- 25:37we love, like work, a lot of folks are saying, you know
- 25:40what, I'm going to keep working at sixty five. Do you have to
- 25:42go on to Medicare or what do we need to know there? CJ.
- 25:45Yeah, this is a confusing area for a lot of people because they go,
- 25:48I know, I've become eligible for Medicare at sixty five, but I'm
- 25:52choosing to continue to work. Maybe they're they're working because they have to,
- 25:56or they're working because they want to, or they just love their job,
- 25:59or are working because they want to get to Social Security full retirement age,
- 26:02which for many Americans is getting close to sixty seven now. So for any
- 26:06of those reasons, what you need to know about this is kind of how
- 26:11this works depending upon your employer structure. So whether or not you need to
- 26:15enroll in Medicare at sixty five and continue and if you continue to work and
- 26:21have health insurance through your job, it actually depends on how large your employer
- 26:26is. The same rule applies if your health insurance comes from your spouse's job.
- 26:30By the way, so if the employer has twenty or more employees.
- 26:34Then here's kind of the way it works. For as long as you have
- 26:37health insurance from an employer for which you or your spouse actively works after you
- 26:42turn age sixty five, you have the right to delay enrolling in Medicare until
- 26:48the employment or the coverage stops, whichever happens first. At that point,
- 26:52you're entitled to a special enrollment period of up to eight months to sign up
- 26:56for Medicare without incurring any late penalties or having any of those pre existing condition
- 27:02issues that Malia was talking about. They consider that like a qualifying event.
- 27:07Note that active employment for your own or your spouses is the key phrase here.
- 27:12You can't delay Medicare enrollment without penalty if your employer sponsored coverage comes from
- 27:18retire ree benefits or COBRA, which by definition do not count as active employment.
- 27:26So here that loud and clear. Often people will take COBRA, which
- 27:30is an eighteen month or longer extension of their workplace health insurance plan, or
- 27:36they have retiree medical benefits offered by their employer. By the way, that's
- 27:40becoming much less common these days, but what a great benefit when it's available.
- 27:44So they'll take this retiree medical benefit thinking I'm still on my active employment
- 27:48through work, and it's not considered active unless you are, surprise, surprise,
- 27:53actively employed. It is entirely your choice, not the employers, whether
- 27:59to accept the employer health plan and delay Medicare enrollment, or decline the employer
- 28:04coverage and rely wholly on Medicare, or have both the employer coverage and Medicare
- 28:11at the same time. So again, this is all for people who have
- 28:15employers with twenty or more employees. However, if you enroll in both the
- 28:21employer plan and Medicare Part B, be aware of the consequences. In that
- 28:25situation. The employer plan is always primary, meaning that it settles medical bills
- 28:30first, and Medicare only pays for services that it covers but the employer plan
- 28:33doesn't cover. So unless the employer coverage is very poor, you'll be paying
- 28:37monthly premiums for that Medicare Part B with little or no return. Also,
- 28:44by signing up for Medicare Part B, you will still have current employer coverage.
- 28:48You could be forfeiting for your right to buy Medicare supplement insurance known as
- 28:52MEDICAP METICAP insurance. So long story short, if you're kind of hearing what
- 28:56we're saying, you should be taking notes saying, oh, this is maybe
- 29:00not something I want to do on my own exactly. But I would say
- 29:04to you as really really really seek some professional guidance here. We work with
- 29:10a couple of wonderful Medicare supplements and Medicare parts the advantage specialists who just spend
- 29:17all day, every day in this space and help our clients really navigate this.
- 29:21I'll tell you what a one or two hour long conversation with one of
- 29:23those people is the equivalent of four years of studying this on your own.
- 29:29And I mean that sincerely. Just a huge help there, talking this morning
- 29:33with our Retirement Planet professional CJ. Classimle Aquavius website, class financial dot com.
- 29:37That's klaas Financial dot com at the telephone number six to eight four four
- 29:41two five six three seven. So we mentioned if your employer has twenty or
- 29:45more employees, what if it's nineteen or less? What we need to know
- 29:48there, CJ. Yeah, So if it's if it's a smaller employer with
- 29:51less than twenty employees, the law that prohibits large insurers from requiring or even
- 29:56persuading Medicare eligy employees to drop the eployer plan and sign up for Medicare.
- 30:00That does not apply to these smaller companies and organizations that employed less than twenty
- 30:06people. In that situation, the employer decides. If the employer does require
- 30:11you to enroll in Medicare, then Medicare automatically becomes primary and the employer plan
- 30:17provides secondary coverage. In other words, Medicare settles your medical bills first,
- 30:22and then the employer plan only cover services that it covers, but Medicare does
- 30:26not. So be aware twenty or more. There's certain provisions that apply that
- 30:32they give you optionality, we'll call it. If it's twenty or less.
- 30:34Then your employer can have some requirements as it relates to their plan being kind
- 30:40of in a secondary position over Medicare. So know who it is that you
- 30:44work for, Have a conversation with the benefits or HR department if you have
- 30:47any questions, and please, by all means connect with a Medicare specialist as
- 30:52you start getting closer to those key ages, absolutely fascinating stuff, very important
- 30:57stuff as well. Start that conversation, of course, and learn more if
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- 31:21Motion listener question corner and Jeremy rode In says, I'm turning seventy three in
- 31:25October of this year, when must I take my first required distribution? I
- 31:33think you're probably referring to your your RMD, which you're correct. You do
- 31:38need to start taking either this year if you're just turning seventy three as you
- 31:44said, or at by April first of next year. So what you need
- 31:48to understand is, though, if you do wait till next year, taking
- 31:53it by April first, you're also going to have to take your RMD for
- 31:57twenty twenty four. So that might put your situation depending on how large your
- 32:05pretext retirement accounts out there are, and might bump you into another income category
- 32:12paying a higher rate if you have to take both in the same year so
- 32:15you want to sit down with your financial advisor and see if that makes sense.
- 32:20But understand you're going to be taking your RMD from a collection of your
- 32:23old I ra is old four oh one ks, and make sure you have
- 32:27an RMD calculator at hand so you know how much you're going to have to
- 32:30be taking out. Thanks for the question, great question, Jeremy. Don't
- 32:35forget. If you ever have a question, you can submit it right online
- 32:37Class Financial dot com that's Klaas Financial dot com. And speaking of rmds,
- 32:40we did a show recently about those very provisions and what you need to know
- 32:45when it comes to those distributions. You can listen back to that podcast.
- 32:47So well, is this show right at class financial dot com. That's Klaas
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- 33:24This week's Class Quiz Question the week is this true or false? If you
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- 33:59It's always great hanging out with both of you guys. Enjoy this beautiful day.
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