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NEW: Halle Berry Fires Back In Court Filing, “I Would Never Hurt Our Child” · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Tuesday, October 6th, and Halle
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  Speaker 1: Berry has fired back. She has answered the accusations in
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  Speaker 1: a restraining order that she abused her child. Her version
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  Speaker 1: of events sounds much different and, well, maybe even more likely.
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  Speaker 1: And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe that's not the right thing to say, Robes.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of this didn't make sense. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: the story didn't make sense when we first heard it.
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  Speaker 1: She's putting some pieces together here for us, Robes, in
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  Speaker 1: a way. And it comes with photo and video evidence, apparently.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. And look, what we heard from Olivier Martinez
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  Speaker 2: was his request for a restraining order. And all of
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  Speaker 2: that information came from their son, Maceo. And so he
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  Speaker 2: was claiming what Maceo told him because obviously he wasn't
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  Speaker 2: in the room where it happened. And so now, finally,
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  Speaker 2: we are hearing from Halle Berry, and she makes it
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  Speaker 2: very clear, and her quote is, that really stands out,
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  Speaker 2: I would never hurt our child.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where it starts, right? She is flat out
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  Speaker 1: denying what has been put in a restraining order that
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  Speaker 1: has been granted, frankly. She is denying the headline-making allegation
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  Speaker 1: flat out.
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  Speaker 2: And it makes sense. Courts almost always will defer when
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  Speaker 2: they don't know what happened to protecting the child at
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  Speaker 2: all costs. So if there's even some sort of allegation
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  Speaker 2: or insinuation, they will overreact in an effort to protect
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  Speaker 2: the child and make sure the child is safe. And
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  Speaker 2: so that makes sense why all of this may have
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  Speaker 2: taken place the way it did. But again, now Halle
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  Speaker 2: Berry has filed her own court papers, and she is
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  Speaker 2: first and foremost asking to restore the 50-50 custody... She's
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  Speaker 2: also asking to be reinstated as the tie-breaking authority. Apparently
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  Speaker 2: they had that already figured out in their divorce settlement.
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  Speaker 2: And then she is also asking the court to force
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  Speaker 2: Olivier Martinez to attend their court-ordered therapy session, saying he
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  Speaker 2: has not been going and she thinks it's important. But
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  Speaker 2: she gets really detailed into what she says happens, and
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  Speaker 2: then she makes many, many, many allegations against her ex-husband
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  Speaker 2: about how he is influencing their son and literally pitting
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  Speaker 2: their son against her.
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  Speaker 1: This is sad. This is just sad. Look, this happens
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  Speaker 1: in many families. It just doesn't play out like this publicly.
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  Speaker 1: And this is just sad to see her going through it.
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  Speaker 1: And I say her. The whole family right now is going...
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  Speaker 1: through this. There's an older daughter involved in this thing
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  Speaker 1: as well. It's just, it's sad.
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  Speaker 2: And look, maybe the only thing that was nice to
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  Speaker 2: see that came out of some of this was, and look,
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  Speaker 2: we hate the idea that someone's being stalked or that
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  Speaker 2: paparazzi is following celebrities, but it was nice to see
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  Speaker 2: at least that Hallie And her fiance and Maceo were
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  Speaker 2: all together on Sunday. His birthday was Monday. So he
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  Speaker 2: turned 13. He's now officially a teenager. But the day
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  Speaker 2: before his birthday, they were taking him to some trampoline
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  Speaker 2: indoor soccer park. And so, look, they are spending time together.
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  Speaker 2: It's not as if they're not. together or that they're estranged.
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  Speaker 2: So they're trying to work through this really, really messy
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  Speaker 2: situation that all apparently began last weekend, correct? The weekend
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  Speaker 2: before last, September 26th. And look, in Hallie's filing, she did,
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  Speaker 2: as you pointed out, include photos and videos of her son.
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  Speaker 2: And she has timestamped videos. which she claims back up
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  Speaker 2: her version of events and totally refutes what her ex-husband
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  Speaker 2: said happened.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with, before you get into her version, just
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  Speaker 1: a quick reminder of his version. It was simply that, right,
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  Speaker 1: they got into an altercation. Mom put the kid in
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  Speaker 1: a chokehold.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Correct?
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  Speaker 2: And said, who's dominant now?
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  Speaker 1: That thing, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And was choking him, physically abusing their son, and claims
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  Speaker 2: that the son then reached out and said, Dad, please
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  Speaker 2: pick me up.
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  Speaker 1: Hurry.
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  Speaker 2: Hurry. And he also alleged that there were several instances
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  Speaker 2: of abuse over the past several years.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't specify on those, right?
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  Speaker 2: He didn't.
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  Speaker 1: He just mentioned those.
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  Speaker 2: He said verbal and emotional abuse.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So because of that accusation, those headlines were everywhere
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  Speaker 1: that Oscar winner Halle Berry restraining order against her after
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  Speaker 1: she is accused of choking her child.
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  Speaker 2: Correct. Okay. That's good to put that out there first.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So in her version of events, he was playing the video,
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  Speaker 2: virtual reality video game. He had the goggles on and
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  Speaker 2: you can see the photos are out in some of
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  Speaker 2: the outlets. She told him to stop. He refused to listen.
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  Speaker 2: So she went to the bathroom and that was the
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  Speaker 2: vantage point where you see these photos and videos that
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  Speaker 2: she presented to the court. And when he saw his
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  Speaker 2: mom recording him, apparently he walked over and they began
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  Speaker 2: playfully roughhousing, but the wrestling escalated And she said to him,
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  Speaker 2: you don't have anything to prove instead of look who's
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  Speaker 2: dominant now. She says she tried to take the headset
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  Speaker 2: off of him. And that's when he started shoving her.
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  Speaker 2: The confrontation got heated. Her fiance, Van Hunt, came in
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  Speaker 2: and got in between them. And she claims that is
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  Speaker 2: when her son threatened to leave and to go back
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  Speaker 2: to his dad's house. And so she said that's when
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  Speaker 2: she texted Olivier pleading with him. to please enforce appropriate boundaries,
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  Speaker 2: that he was being physical with her, that he was
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  Speaker 2: being disrespectful to her. And she says, here's the deal.
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  Speaker 2: When my son left, he had no marks on his body,
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  Speaker 2: no marks on his neck. And she said, I would
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  Speaker 2: never hurt our child.
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  Speaker 1: You have right. There's no suggestion or video or anything
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  Speaker 1: that he has marks on him.
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  Speaker 2: No, but she wanted to point out, hey, if I
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  Speaker 2: choked him, if I physically assaulted him, there would be marks.
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  Speaker 2: I did none of that. And that he pushed her,
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  Speaker 2: that he attacked her.
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  Speaker 1: And again, the way her words are that he pushed
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  Speaker 1: his mother. Right? She doesn't go too far beyond that,
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  Speaker 1: not striking her or anything.
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  Speaker 2: No, she didn't say that. And she said that they
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  Speaker 2: were playfully roughhousing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you could see that. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I think they have done that before. She's
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  Speaker 2: talked about that before. But interestingly enough, when he started
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  Speaker 2: to get more physical with her, instead of her saying,
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  Speaker 2: who's dominant now? She claims, Maceo said, or she said
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  Speaker 2: to him, you don't have anything to prove.
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  Speaker 1: Damn, man.
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  Speaker 2: So it's tough. And look, she does have... Someone who
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  Speaker 2: was in the house, her fiance, was there. And according
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  Speaker 2: to her version of events, he was in the room
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  Speaker 2: when things started to get rough, and he's the one
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  Speaker 2: who actually got in between them to break it up.
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  Speaker 1: My goodness, Rose, what happened here? And again, babe, all
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  Speaker 1: that that was out there, it's important to follow up
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  Speaker 1: on the story and get her version out there and
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  Speaker 1: get her story out there because all we heard, for
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  Speaker 1: a few days now, were those headlines, babe. And these
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  Speaker 1: are difficult stories to cover. And we, every time, what
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  Speaker 1: do you do with an accusation when somebody's accused of
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  Speaker 1: some of the most heinous things, even if it's not true,
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  Speaker 1: once you just have certain things attached to your name,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to get away from. So, Rob, this is,
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  Speaker 1: it's difficult and tricky. We're tiptoeing because of a personal, like,
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  Speaker 1: dealings and history with Hallie, that we've had. But this
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  Speaker 1: is important, Ro, to get her version. It's important for
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  Speaker 1: her to get her version out there to combat the headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Look, this is so nasty and tough because for Olivier
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  Speaker 2: to put this all out there in a court filing,
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  Speaker 2: he knew this was all going to be made public.
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  Speaker 2: And now this is so difficult. So now she has
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  Speaker 2: to push back and file her own court filing. And
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  Speaker 2: now all this other stuff is getting out. So To
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  Speaker 2: that extent, you mentioned her older daughter. She has an
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  Speaker 2: 18-year-old daughter with Gabriel Aubrey, and her name's Nala. Nala
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  Speaker 2: actually submitted something along with her mother in this court
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  Speaker 2: filing to respond to Olivier's allegation that she said that
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  Speaker 2: thing to her son, that her ex-husband is a white
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  Speaker 2: bitch who takes money from a black woman. So Nala
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  Speaker 2: actually made a declaration saying she's never heard her mom
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  Speaker 2: make racially charged comments And she said that Olivier's allegations are, quote,
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  Speaker 2: completely inconsistent with the mom I know. So the fact
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  Speaker 2: that now her 18-year-old daughter has to get involved defending
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  Speaker 2: her mother's mothering, that's tough.
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  Speaker 1: What she's doing, I mean, that's her little brother, too.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: That's a family member and somebody she loves. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what the, you know, I'm not saying their
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  Speaker 1: allegiance is here or there, but, bro, she's, this has
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  Speaker 1: happened to the whole family. So now the daughter has
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  Speaker 1: to be on the record in some way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to give everybody some space for being in
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  Speaker 1: their own truth here. Yes. Including Martinez. Robes, if his
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  Speaker 1: son came home and told him something and he felt
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  Speaker 1: it was serious enough to take action, okay. But Robes, Maceo,
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  Speaker 1: was he a 13-year-old kid who was upset and did
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  Speaker 1: what sometimes a lot of kids do, but then didn't
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  Speaker 1: expect this to become a restraining order or a legal
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  Speaker 1: issue or a tabloid issue? And did he get out
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  Speaker 1: of hand or robes the other possibility? Does he hate
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  Speaker 1: Halle Berry that much, the ex? And there's some evidence
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  Speaker 1: along the way Robes, at least in their history. Is
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  Speaker 1: he trying to get back at her? Or is anybody
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  Speaker 1: making an argument that, yes, it happened exactly the way
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  Speaker 1: Maceo said it was because the first headlines, Robes said,
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  Speaker 1: jumped on top of him and was choking him were
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  Speaker 1: the first headlines.
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  Speaker 2: It's tough. These are tough headlines, and the truth is
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  Speaker 2: probably somewhere in between all of that. But in this filing,
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  Speaker 2: Hallie goes now off on Martinez and says that basically
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  Speaker 2: he has tried to pit her or their son against her.
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  Speaker 2: She said he attempts to align Maceo with him and
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  Speaker 2: against me in many areas of our child's life and activities,
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  Speaker 2: which causes Maceo to be angry with me about private
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  Speaker 2: issues relating to Maceo, which Olivier and I were discussing
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  Speaker 2: at the time. When Maceo would come home from his
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  Speaker 2: custodial time with Olivier, he would be angry and combative.
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  Speaker 2: It took Maceo two to three days to acclimate to
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  Speaker 2: being at home, and when he would go back to Olivier,
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  Speaker 2: the cycle would start all over again. I also perceived
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  Speaker 2: Maceo to repeat disputes that Olivier and I discuss in
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  Speaker 2: private and take Olivier's side or position in that dispute.
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  Speaker 2: If the dispute related to a decision regarding Maceo, for example,
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  Speaker 2: about soccer, school, or therapy, Maceo knew about it before
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  Speaker 2: Olivier and I even reached a decision with respect to
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  Speaker 2: a particular issue and would tell me what he and
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  Speaker 2: Olivier are going to do without my input, completely disregarding
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  Speaker 2: my authority as his mother.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to divorced parenting. Every divorced parent is listening to
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  Speaker 1: that and has been through something that she just listed.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. This is such an unfortunate common experience for so
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  Speaker 2: many people who have shared custody.
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  Speaker 1: But she is in this situation using that to say
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  Speaker 1: this is why behavioral issues are happening. It's actually because
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  Speaker 1: of the guy on the other side. Absolutely. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: And then think about all the families who have a
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  Speaker 2: new person in their life. She even brings this up.
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  Speaker 2: She said, Olivier's continued refusal to accept my relationship with Van,
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  Speaker 2: who plays an important part in Maceo's life. His lack
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  Speaker 2: of acceptance of Van has resulted in him refusing to
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  Speaker 2: permit Maceo to work in a family therapy setting with
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  Speaker 2: me and Van and as a means to continue to
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  Speaker 2: create a healthy environment for our son. So she's trying...
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  Speaker 2: to take him to therapy. He won't even let Van
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  Speaker 2: be a part of it. And so, look, this is tough.
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  Speaker 2: This is tough stuff. And she says she doesn't agree
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  Speaker 2: that her son should be permitted to make decisions regarding
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  Speaker 2: his education, health, extracurricular activities, and general welfare. This is
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  Speaker 2: people who have two very different parenting styles who hate
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  Speaker 2: each other.
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  Speaker 1: A black woman from the U.S. and a dude from France, right?
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  Speaker 1: Are C'est la vie versus you better be a bad
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  Speaker 1: mofo here in the United States as a black man.
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  Speaker 2: I'm raising you as a black man.
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  Speaker 1: And he's being read. Really? I mean, it's just a different,
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  Speaker 1: it's showing up here in what she's describing. Nobody said
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  Speaker 1: one style is right or wrong. But, Rose, these conflicts
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  Speaker 1: happen all the time. We are seeing them. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: You say that all of that funny line, oh, celebrities,
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  Speaker 1: they're just like us.
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  Speaker 2: They kind of are. They might have more means. They
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  Speaker 2: might have higher priced attorneys. but the fights are the
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  Speaker 2: same and the feelings are the same. And so when
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  Speaker 2: we come back, we're going to tell you because, yes,
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  Speaker 2: Halle put this all in the court system yesterday. It
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  Speaker 2: didn't take long for Olivier Martinez to fire back with
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  Speaker 2: his response. Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ Halle
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  Speaker 2: Berry defending herself and giving a very different version of
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  Speaker 2: events of what happened on September 26th with her then
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  Speaker 2: 12-year-old son, Maceo. So she wants the court to restore
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  Speaker 2: the previous arrangement. She wants 50-50 custody. She wants to
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  Speaker 2: have the tie-breaking vote. And she also wants the court
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  Speaker 2: to know what she's been dealing with with her ex-husband.
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  Speaker 2: So she made some very pointed accusations against his, she claims,
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  Speaker 2: his role in basically aligning her son against her. And
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  Speaker 2: she feels very frustrated by the fact that she doesn't
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  Speaker 2: feel like she has parental control over her son's well-being. So,
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  Speaker 2: Olivia Martinez filed a response late last night and asked
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  Speaker 2: the court to deny Barry's request to return things back
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  Speaker 2: to where they were. He claims that he's not doing
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  Speaker 2: the things that Hallie says. He said he has not
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  Speaker 2: resisted their son getting help for neurodivergent behavioral issues. He
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  Speaker 2: said Hallie has deliberately misrepresented my behavior where Maceo's mental
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  Speaker 2: health treatment is concerned. He asks that the current temporary
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  Speaker 2: restraining order stay in place, and here's where he went
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  Speaker 2: for the jugular. He alleged that there continues to be
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  Speaker 2: a risk of, quote, immediate danger to their son after
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  Speaker 2: she allegedly physically abused him.
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  Speaker 1: She is an imminent threat to the child.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he's claiming. That is what he is claiming.
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  Speaker 1: That's heavy, baby.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and he also claims, and this even seems petty,
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  Speaker 2: maybe this is a lawyer thing, that Halle Berry improperly
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  Speaker 2: filed an emergency request rather than a regularly calendared request
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  Speaker 2: for an order. Is he saying that because she's trying
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  Speaker 2: to get extra publicity surrounding her response to his accusations?
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  Speaker 2: But that's even how petty it is. He's upset how
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  Speaker 2: she filed the order in addition to what she said
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  Speaker 2: in it. That's how petty it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's just, it's heartbreaking. There's still a 13-year-old kid in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of this. Nala's what, 18, 19?
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  Speaker 2: Nala's 18.
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  Speaker 1: There's still, these are kids, this is a family. And family, man,
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  Speaker 1: family is hard. We can tell you family is really hard.
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  Speaker 1: And anybody listening knows that. The difficulty you have, baby,
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  Speaker 1: in navigating all this stuff, 13-year-old girl, 13-year-old boy, Two
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  Speaker 1: different crises in the house, but crises nonetheless. Just the toddlers,
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  Speaker 1: the all kinds of stuff you deal with, divorces, what
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  Speaker 1: kid wants to go here, who gets what, blending families, robes,
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  Speaker 1: all this stuff is hard. To have to do it
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  Speaker 1: in public when people are taking shots, it seems, at
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  Speaker 1: each other and still at the heart of it, babe,
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  Speaker 1: these kids are struggling just like any other kids in
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  Speaker 1: a family. But they have an extra thing now. They
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  Speaker 1: have to go to school and everybody around them knows it.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that tough?
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  Speaker 1: Everybody around them knows their stuff. Everybody on social media
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  Speaker 1: knows their stuff. I just wish these people, all of them,
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  Speaker 1: all of them could find peace. Because we've been a
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  Speaker 1: part of this fight for years.
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  Speaker 2: And look to the point where I think most people
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  Speaker 2: understand that once things like this get public, they don't
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  Speaker 2: get better. They get uglier. They get messier. And the
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  Speaker 2: people who pay the ultimate price are the kids. To
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  Speaker 2: your point, if they had kept this private, as angry
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  Speaker 2: as they might be at one another, but if there
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  Speaker 2: hadn't been court filings issued... Maceo could go to school
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  Speaker 2: and privately be carrying some of the weight of what
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  Speaker 2: he's been experiencing at these two homes. But now he
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  Speaker 2: has to know that all of his friends and his friends'
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  Speaker 2: parents are whispering about it, talking about it. That is
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  Speaker 2: another layer of pain that was not necessary, unfortunately. But
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  Speaker 2: that's where we are. And look, our hearts go out
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  Speaker 2: to all of them, as I'm sure most people's do.
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  Speaker 2: especially people who've been in a position similar to this
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  Speaker 2: where you know how tough and difficult it can be
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  Speaker 2: when you're dealing with warring exes. But we just wanted
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  Speaker 2: to hop on and make sure that Halle Berry's version
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  Speaker 2: of events certainly also gets just as much recognition as
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  Speaker 2: what her ex was saying about her. And with that, everyone,
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  Speaker 2: we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach
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  Speaker 2: alongside TJ Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.