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Portals and The Meadow Project - High Strangeness in Strange Times with Trey Hudson · The Cryptid Huntress

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introduce my guests. All right, y'all. I'm so sorry for whatever reason
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my stream yard, I don't know if my stream yard, I don't know
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what's going on. It plays music in my headphones. Well, I'm trying
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to start my intro, all right, okay, so let me introduce my
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friend, the head of my team. This is Trey Hudsond, you guys.
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Trey is the director of Anomalous Studies and Observation Group. His team has
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spent years researching the Meadow, which has been compared to Skinwalker Ranch itself with
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his own reports of UFOs, cryptids, portals, missing time, crop circle,
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light formations, men in black orbs, strange beams of light, mysterious
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beings, and other oddities. All right, Trey has just recently retired from
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the Department of Defense, and I have with me here today my retired friend
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who stays busy, Trade Hudson. Please help me. Welcome Trade to the
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show, you guys. Yeah, hello everybody. I hope everybody's having a
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great evening tonight. Thank you, Trey. Yes, I'm having a great
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evening. I'm only having minor glitches with the audio tonight, but it's okay.
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We're gonna get through this. And if things start getting really scratchy and
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laggy and whatever. I just made that word a laggy, y'all, let
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me know and I'm gonna switch over. Yeah, yeah, what happens draggy?
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Yes, absolutely, it is well, Tray. It is so good
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to see you. I have not seen you in at least a month or
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two. It's been about a month, maybe two. I don't know.
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I've been busy. How about you. I know you've got it had to
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be busy. Oh, it's been crazy. You know. I retired,
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like you said, from d D and I thought, you know, I'm
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gonna have all this extra time to do things. You know, I can
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sit down and start working on my second book. And I've only been able
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to churn out two chapters so far. You know, I've been getting bogged
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down in the uh, you know, getting bogged down and the research part
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of it. But you know it's good. Uh, you know I can
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start focusing on you know, on research I've been Yeah, I'm now able
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to devote the more time to uh, you know, consulting with people and
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you know, in areas of high strangeness. I've been consulting some with some
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folks in the UFO world about tomorrow. Amazing things that I've come out here
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recently. So yeah, it's a good time. You know, it's a
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good time. And uh and if anybody's wondering, we're going back out into
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the meadow next month. So we're hoping to have a very fruitful expedition.
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Out there. So it's all good, it's all good, super good.
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Yes, okay, So for the people watching in our audience tonight, uh,
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you and I are we we do field research, boots on the ground,
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field research out at undisclosed location here in the South. We don't give
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our locations away. I'm so sorry, everybody, but it's called we call
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it the Meadow and and you have written a book called The Meadow Project Explorations
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and to the South skin Walker Ranch. And there's a reason for that.
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Why we called this the skin Walker Ranch of the South. Trade tell the
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audience why we call it the skin Walker Ranch of the South. Yeah.
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Uh, you know, we started researching this area, you know. And
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you know, for anybody who's ever you heard me, you know, lecture
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or being interviewed, I started off as a paranormal researcher and I was a
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ghost guy. So you know, we kind of start looking at this from
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the ghost perspective. You know, there's this this this forest, you know,
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with a haunted road. You don't don't go down there. Don't go
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down there, U of them ain't so'll get you. Well, hell yeah
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that's where I'm going, you know, absolutely, you know I'm that guy
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and so, but it turned out that the hauntings, uh, we're part
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of something much more, you know. And as we started researching this area,
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and when I say researching, I'm talking about not only you know,
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scholarly research and reading past accounts, et cetera, et cetera, and going
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on all the way back to the first Nations, back to the Cherokee legends
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and eat all the way forward. And then started doing as you said,
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boots on the ground research and investigating. We started seeing a plethora, a
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very rich tapestry of phenomena, you know. And you kind of alluded to
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that we've seen orbs galore. I mean just orbs, you know, boot
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coodles, the orbes. You know, a boot poodle is a technical term
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we use a department often that means that whole heck of a bunch. And
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so we've seen we've seen a whole bunch of orbs. We've we've had entities
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that we've seen on our thermals. We've had disembodied voices, a lot of
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disembodied voices. That's very common. Shadow people. I had some amazing shadow
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people experiences. We had some things that were akin to crop circles, except
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they were linear in nature. We had the cube. And something I've been
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doing more research in here recently is how cubes that that's particular shape is very
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very prevalent in areas of high strangeness. And it goes all the way back
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to the cube as being a alcomoal symbol or the prima material, which is
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the prime material or the building block of you know, all things physical.
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So the cube is really important. So you know, we had a cube
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manifest, you know, in the meadow. We had people walk into this
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queue or in the area where this cube was and they disappeared all far flear
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we can no longer see them. So it was dare I say it was
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a portal, you know, they stepped into something the other you know,
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a other reality, a other uh you know world, other sense or another
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place, if you will. And we've tried to recreate that in that same
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location using the same equipment, and I've not been able to do it.
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That's like I said, disembodied voices, premonitions UFOs. So you know,
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I started kind of cataloguing all of this stuff in my mind. I thought,
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wow, this sounds like somewhere somewhere else, This rings a Bell.
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Where have I heard about all of this? Of course, you know it's
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skin Walker Ranch. They you know, when Robert Bigelow started investigating this in
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our instant you know, it passed on to Brandon Fugal and you know others.
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It reminds me a lot of that location. So that's why it's you
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know, called, you know, unofficially the skin Walker Ranch of the South
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because it has much of the same phenomena going on there. It does.
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We actually have some some people we go out in the field within the chat
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tonight. We have Susan here. Susan's actually with ERG and one of our
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other teams that we're both on and so hey, Susan, thank you for
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being here. And I think Chris christ and I gave her a message.
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She may be in here too. I haven't seen her in chat yet.
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We've got some I usually have some of our teammates in here, so we
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all have stories of being out in that field, of being out at the
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meadow, and and it's not the only place that our team researches, but
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it's one of the main spots that we go to regularly, and and it
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never disappoints. And you know, I mean every time I go there,
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every single time I have difficulties or some kind of electronic malfunction with my vehicle
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and trade I I you can say I have literally driven probably ten different cars
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out there, Okay, like not not ten, maybe like five or six,
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I don't know, it's a lot like different cars, and uh,
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and they all the lights go off by and they the alarms go off,
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and the doors locked by themselves, and it's just so hot, or the
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battery goes dead, you know. Yeah, it's exactly. You become kind
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of a kind of a joke because we tease you about Jessica. Do you
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have your teas? Are they on you? Or don't leave them in the
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car because they don't lock it. You know, you'll be stuck. Yeah,
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yeah, well you Katie, Paige and I we got we got stranded
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out there one of the last times she came out with us. She's with
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Colorado Is at Colorado moof on and uh, she was I was supposed to
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take her to the airport and yeah, her my battery died after everybody left,
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So we got stranded at the meadow one day. So but anyways,
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that's that's the least of the stuff that goes on out there. You know,
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we have a lot of stuff that I have really been talking about a
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lot that happens out there. Stuff that I'm not talking about the meadow.
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I haven't been talking about that a whole lot lately, but with other stuff
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that I'm doing, like these remote viewing shows that I do or I'm remote
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viewing things and even going up to mont Talk recently and we had the portal
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opening. Okay, so I figured, hey, let's talk about portals tonight
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because I went up to Montalk. We were went up there for like the
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twenty year I was gonna say reunion, but the twenty year like anniversary kind
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of of what they call a biocamp rhythm that opens up a portal there.
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And they say that the USS Eldridge can be seen on August to twelfth every
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twenty years. And so we were up there for that. That wasn't an
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actual portal opening. They say, and uh and and our and basically,
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okay, I know you just retire from the d D, all right,
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And I'm not gonna I'm not gonna ask you anything too sensitive here, but
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I'm gonna kind of put it out there, like our governments if this if
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these experiments were true and they really happened, and I believe they did.
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Our government knows all about these things and these bio rhythms and portals and things
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like that, and uh, and that's what they were utilizing to send that
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ship through to teleport. Okay, So yeah, what what does our government
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know about all this stuff? Trade? And you don't have to answer that
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fully. Yeah, Well, I'm gonna kind of I'm going to kind of
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back into that question. And you know, okay, is you know I
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talked about I mentioned this in Walker Ranch earlier when it was owned by Robert
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Bigelow under Bigelow Aerospace c A. Bigelow Aerospace and something in science I can't
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remember. He established an organization called MIDS, the National Institute for Discovery Science.
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They were actually doing research at skin Walker Ranch under a classified contract for
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the Defense Intelligence Agency. And this is that if you there's a book called
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skin Walkers of the Pentagon that all of this has now been declassified. And
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so if you take the next step, the next cognitive step, if the
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Department or the Defense Intelligence Agency d IA is contracting Robert Bigelow to do research
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at skin Walker Ranch, which has you know, UFOs and portals and creatures
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and you know all of this other stuff. What else are they looking at?
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You know, do you think that was a once off a fire and
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forget kind of thing or do you think that there's more research done on that?
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And something that's very dear to your your heart of my heart is for
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remote viewing. And we know that Department of Army in SCOM, the Intelligence
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and Security Command, under General Burt's double buy uh set up a project and
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I'm gonna have to I'm remember going to remember I think with Project Real Flame
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at a Conception, which was a remote viewing a project and they contracted with
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the Stanford Research Institute and so they were actually doing psychic spying and other stuff.
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And we know an individual that was involved with the Special Forces Super Soldier
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project and you know who I'm talking about. And so you know, this
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is the stuff of public this is the stuff that's out there for us to
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digest, you know, as everyday folks. So what is behind the curtain,
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you know, what's behind the veil, what's buried in the dark black
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projects? And I think it's things that will absolutely blow your mind. Oh
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yeah, well it wouldn't shock me though I was up at Montauk with you
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know, and I know not everybody. It's really open to the Montauk Boys
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and the Montauk stuff, but you know, the people I was there with,
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it was it was very real to these people, okay. And uh
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and I believe, I believe that they were part of programs and uh.
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And there's a lot of ink ultra involved with a lot of this too,
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and the mind control and that's where like the remote viewing aspect, it really
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kind of mels together for me, you know, because we're taught you by
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the way, to all my audience, you guys, Tree is trained to
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remote viewing with me, okay, so training Tree is also trained. So
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is Sue who's in the chat Universal Sue and there that she's one of our
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teammates. Our whole team has been trained in remote viewing and uh. And
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we're we've learned how to control our minds. Not to say we're good at
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it. I'm not super good at it, but but it's important for us
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to know how to control our minds, Okay, absolutely, otherwise we're gonna
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have our minds controlled by somebody else, Okay. And uh, and I
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ain't nobody got time for that, tree, Okay, I don't want to.
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And yeah, if you don't master your mind, somebody else will certainly
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master it for you, that's for sure. That's right. Absolutely, It's
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it's no small subject here we are. We're kind of being pumped every day
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with like so much negativity and things. That's something like the news. I
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don't even watch the news anymore, Tree, I really don't. First of
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all, I don't have time. But if I did, I wouldn't anyways.
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Yeah, from from a mind control aspect, But that's all project mocking
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bart Bird stuff. We won't go there tonight. We're here to talk about
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the meadow, right, But but I think kind of the roundabout point that
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I was making was about the time travel, the teleportation and the portals.
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You know, one of my most profound nights out at the meadow tray,
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I was walking down the trail into the meadow with our friend Tim and UH
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and his daughter, and I heard a voice scream from across the across the
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way let's just say time travel, okay, And they didn't hear it,
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but it was so loud, and I one hundred percent heard it. I
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know I heard it, and it told me about a month to realize that
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was my voice. Okay, it took me a while. I don't know
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if it was a month, it might have been a week or two.
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I don't remember time as an illusion apparently, you know. And that's an
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excellent point. And let me just jump in here because a good friend of
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mine just wrote a book on all of this, and uh, it's time
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is not a construct like we think it is. You know, it's not
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linear in a point A to point B. It's something much more fluid.
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And it's actually artificial. We manufactured time in our minds, you know.
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It's it's a artificial constructor that we put under the world, in the universe
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around us. And some of the theories are that universes are like strings,
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you know, and as He's dreams loop around, they can loop around it
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come back on themselves. So you can have your existence in the future also
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touch your existence presently. And what are you the most quantumly entangled with yourself?
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So your voice travel? Yeah? Why not? Yeah? Well,
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you know I also have thought because I have thought about this a lot,
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because when you hear your own voice, you know, doing the doing all
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those studies on cryptis that I do, and having people on my shows talking
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about skin walkers, you know that that could they say skin walkers and even
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bigfoots can and even dong Man can imitate your voice. But that was my
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voice, and so it could have been a number of things trade But to
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me, I have to think, was that myself remote viewing myself and doing
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a deep mind probe and letting myself know what that sounds like? You know,
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it could be because I was the only person that heard it. But
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I don't know. I need to remote view myself, maybe potentially remote viewing
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myself. Does that make sense? Oh my gosh, that doesn't not make
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any sense, But it makes all the sense. Yeah, I view myself
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and interesting stuff. No, it's so boring. We gotta Yeah, I
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have no intention to remove view myself, but apparently I do at some point,
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I guess. But yeah, we just live in such a wild world,
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you know. And you were you were talking earlier, you know,
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before we went on the air about you were doing some uh projection of consciousness
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projection when we were in the meadow last May. It's a few months ago,
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and you know, could you have been influencing your past self from your
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self and may can do yourself. Might have to look at my notes when
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when that was when you heard that? Boys, but you know, you
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give a whole new, whole new situation of the term talking to yourself.
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Absolutely, yeah, you know, and there's things that we've done in that
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meadow that and I know we're probably gonna put it in your next book,
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I bet. And uh so, I'm not going to give it all the
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way of course tonight. But where we are, like you said, we're
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doing things at that moment the last time we were in the meadow to influence
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things that happened in the past and in the future. You know, when
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I say we're out there doing cutting edge experiments, you guys like we're we're
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doing top notch stuff that I don't know if anybody else is doing this stuff,
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not not just paranormal research teams like ours. I just don't think so.
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But I don't know. Trade. Yeah, it's it's it's one of
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those things that you know, you know, part of my philosophies always bring
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a very large toolbox, you know, And Okay, we have biases.
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You know, you're you're your A lot of your bigfoot folks don't want to
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talk about the the wu, you know, until the wou come and bites
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them in the butt and then they're in it. And I've seen that happen.
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Uh. And then you know, some of your other folks, you
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know, don't want to bring some of the paranormal tools into the field research.
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But you know, we try to take this this big toolbox and pull
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out tools you know as uh, you know, as we need them.
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Can't try different things out. Something that's been really successful is of course to
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esk these protocol and something we started doing here the last two expeditions is we've
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acquired a god helmet, a pert Singer helmet, I mean a corn helmet.
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Robert Fert Singer and Mr Kant developed that several years ago and to kind
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of jump start people's psychic ability and get them and maybe if we can crime
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the pump when they go out of the meadow, things can happen. And
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I think we're starting to see some really cool things manifest now. You know,
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there's causation mean correlation, not necessarily, but you know, we are
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seeing some results when we do use the goudhelme, especially in a field setting.
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So you know, it's it's a wide open world. Out there and
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we're as long as you know, we're allowed to do it, and they're
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permitted to you know, explore and research in this area. We're going to
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keep trying to, you know, take bring those cutting edge techniques, the
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cutting edge theories out there, you know, loops on the ground out there
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in the actual field, not in you know, not in a basement somewhere.
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But I actually put it out the way. Think we're happening. Yeah,
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absolutely, I mean I can't wait to get back out of there.
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Actually, I really, I really look forward to it. And uh,
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it's it's a whole different ball game. There's there's a difference between just sitting
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around and talking about this kind of stuff and like being out there in the
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field. And someone asked earlier, and I'm seeing all your questions, you
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guys. Someone asked earlier, if we and I had the up on the
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screen, do we ever get scared out in the field, And you know,
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I don't think I don't get scared, but things startle us sometimes,
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right Tree. Yeah, Yeah, I've never been you know, you know,
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scared, you know, stream like a girl and run out of the
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meadow with my hair on fire, you know, but I have been very
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unnerved, you know, things just there are times that you're out there things
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just don't seem right, you know, and you'll have the hair on the
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back of your neck stand up and you'll feel like you're being watched or something
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is you know, right just right in the periphery of your vision. You
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know, you know, out there, you know, possibly trying to influence
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you. But you know, what we've tried to do is is most of
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the people in our team come from the backgrounds that involve high stress situations.
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So you know, we've got law enforcement people, military intelligence, emergency medicine.
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So these are folks that are used to being you know, in the
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poop and stink focused, you know, stink focused on the mission, you
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when the world is falling down around here. So I think that really helps
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people from getting you know, getting scared or getting getting rattled and moving all
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focus and they can they can stay on the miss. We also have a
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pretty tight hierarchy of command. You know, everybody knows what their job is
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when they go out there. Everybody knows, you know, who's in charge.
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You know, they know how to request permission to change, you know,
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the outline of their mission or mission parameters, So you know, that
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just kind of keeps everybody pointed in the right direction. And I'm not saying
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it's the absolute best way to go out doing field research. I can't say
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that. I can say that it's to work for us work very well.
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Yeah, it definitely works well into it, And I think it's really hasn't
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got a lot to do with the people on our team. And because I
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feel like it's always the people. It's not just the locations that people go
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to to do research, it's actually the people that you take out there with
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you. And how important is that to have people that are out there on
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your team and surrounding you that are open minded and potentially even have pretty good
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psychic abilities. Oh yeah, absolutely, I'll give you. I'll give you
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an example. In the air around me right now, there are radio waves,
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okay, that our information is moving through the air as I sit here.
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I can't see it, I can't hear it, and I can't touch
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it. But just right over here is I have something called a ham radio,
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and I can turn that radio on and I can tune into those frequencies,
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and all of a sudden, what was invisible now becomes real. It
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doesn't become real just because I turned on the ham radio. It was always
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real, but now I can perceive it. And I think it's the same
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way with things going on around us. And I'll just say the non physical
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world. I'm not going to use the word psyching you. I'm gonna say
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non physical, non Euclidean three dimensional world. It's because we can't foresee it
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doesn't mean it's not real, you know. I will tell you. I
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will tell the listeners that there is another aspect to our existence and ourselves and
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our being that most people don't realize. And the reason I know that is
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the cause I have successfully remote viewed targets and been on target that are way
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outside of this the area of statistical possibility. You know. I know that
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for a fact. So if you know we can get that little tiny taste
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of it, and it has been empirically proven by standard research instity when the
27:34
OD was funding the remote viewing studies, it's what else is out there?
27:41
You know that that we can't perceive. So if you have somebody that has
27:44
their their frequency receiver psychologically mentally opened up just a little bit wider than your
27:51
average person, what are they now able to perceive. And if you're you
27:56
know, on the radio and you're saying, you know, hey, I
27:59
want some to tell if I want some one telef I want someone to talk.
28:02
And now you find someone that can hear you, that's who you're going
28:04
to talk to. And I think that's why people that are dialed into and
28:08
are receptive these kind of situations almost manifest these situations because they're willing to receive
28:15
the energies, receive the communications, and receive the data where it might be
28:19
shut off by most people. Absolutely. Yeah, you know, I kind
28:26
of went rogue trade and I started doing a show about remote viewing, okay,
28:30
and uh, and I love it. I hit at least one or
28:33
two targets every week. I call it hitting targets because honestly, the targets
28:37
i've I've I've gotten kind of good at it. At this point. I'm
28:41
not I'm not the best in the world. I don't claim to be,
28:42
but it's so fun and uh, and it's it's really fascinating the data that
28:48
I get out of these blind targets. These are blind targets tasting me by
28:52
by there's maybe one or two people that tast me. These targets and uh
28:56
and it is literally mind blowing and uh and I gotta also say, you
29:00
know, it was kind of difficult coming out as a bigfoot researcher, right,
29:04
it was way worse coming out as a remote viewing researcher, okay,
29:07
and uh because people are just have not really not everybody's open to it,
29:12
Okay, not everybody And uh and I and so I'm really happy that you're
29:17
on the show. We're talking about remote viewing. I mean you're you're actually
29:19
just retired with the Department of Defense and uh and and you stand behind remote
29:25
viewing and these targets absolutely, yeah, you know. And you know you
29:29
mentioned Susan earlier. She and I worked on a project one time. It
29:33
was a blind target and it turned out it was out of yellow Knife,
29:37
Canada, and we were spot on, I mean, like a laser beat.
29:42
We were on that target. And it is just it is as real
29:48
as you know, getting up in the morning and putting your feet on the
29:51
floor when you get out of that. You know, it's that real.
29:53
And everybody has this capability. They just have to train themselves and be disciplined
29:59
enough this follow the protocol and stick with it. Now you mentioned you know,
30:03
remote viewing. You know, a lot of people you kind of don't
30:07
understand. There's a lot of misinformation out there on what remote viewing is and
30:11
what it isn't you know? It is a at least coordinate remote viewing,
30:15
which is what you know, what I do. Uh, you know,
30:18
it's it's a it's a format, it's a protocol, it's it's a set
30:21
standard, and it's not just going in a room and say, oh,
30:25
you know, I've got a vision of you know, I don't know,
30:26
a Teddy Bear on the side of the highway. It's a very discipline,
30:33
uh methodology to go through it. So yeah, it's just it's it's one
30:37
of those things that anybody out there ever gets a chance to train, it
30:41
will literally change your life, and it will change the way you look at
30:44
yourself and also change the way you look at the universe absolutely. And let
30:51
me tell you what what changes my way of looking at the universe is all
30:53
this generosity we're getting tonight with all these super stickers and super chats. Thank
30:57
you guys so much. We've got past school Lord William and the debster.
31:02
Okay, you guys, thank you so much for your super chats and your
31:04
super stickers. We really do appreciate you guys here. It's based on radio,
31:10
Yeah it is. It's phenomenal. How on target you can be with
31:15
this stuff when we're just giving a set of numbers, trade a set of
31:18
numbers, and and you get all sorts of information. You're helping find missing
31:22
helping to find missing people. We're you know, solving crimes. Not not
31:26
not to say that it would I would ever use that in a court of
31:27
law personally or whatever. But there's a lot of things you can see and
31:33
do through that. So how does remote viewing help our team in the field
31:37
in your opinion? Because I mean we we utilize it on that with the
31:42
other team with ERG quite a bit. And uh, how do you think
31:47
it helps us in the field with ASOG. Yeah, A couple two ways
31:52
they come to mind. Uh. First is you know what remote viewing is.
31:55
It is using the protocol to look at things that are either remote or
31:59
in a few sure in the past, and you look at the target and
32:04
pulled data from the target. So we can take an experience, but we
32:07
can take a location, we can take an individual, we can take an
32:10
object, and we can remote view it and pulled data out of that that
32:15
will help us understand it a little bit better. That's the you know,
32:19
the kind of the the nuts and bolts of that's that's a very obvious thing.
32:22
But even better than that, well, I think is the real money
32:27
maker on this is when you have people that are remote viewers and you have
32:32
more than one in a group, had a location focused on a task.
32:38
I think the energy that that creates and then I don't mean to get all
32:45
woo woo about it, but I think it projects an energy and an intent
32:47
into the universe. And that's very much what doctor Stephen Greer is doing with
32:53
a CE five protocol, which we've done, you know, the CE five
32:58
protocol, and have had it manifested health in ways much different than we thought
33:01
it would because we had a lot of dialed in remote viewers projecting intent into
33:07
the universe and the universe responding and oftentimes unexplained and very surprising ways. Wow.
33:19
Yeah, absolutely, and remote viewing is way more I'm gonna say talked
33:23
about these days. We actually just had a show here it's Space Out Radio.
33:28
Brian Bowden came on and and talked about remote viewing and he gave some
33:30
pointers out to the to the audience on how to do some some I guess
33:35
to work out your psychic muscles. I don't know. I fell asleep,
33:37
y'all. I'm not gonna lie. I didn't watch the end of the show
33:39
because I was I was actually at my son's back in school, so I
33:44
have to go to bed early now. But anyways, Yeah, a lot
33:46
of people are super into the remote viewing aspect. But here's the thing I
33:52
started noticing with a lot of people who talk about remote viewing or say they
33:55
do remote viewing, they're not doing the same kind of remote viewing you and
33:59
I do, which and I don't really want to get into the debate of
34:02
that and what's right or wrong or whatever, But it's not it's not exactly
34:07
the same type that you and I have been trained in, right with a
34:09
lot of people. So, yeah, viewing is a is a military protocol
34:15
for intelligence collection. That's what it is. And it's you know, it's
34:19
very very rigid and very specific. Now am I saying people can't gather information
34:24
in other ways but coordinate? Remote viewing is a very narrowly defined protocol,
34:30
and uh, you know, item it is absolutely Okay, I would love
34:36
to talk to you a little bit tonight about UFOs and some people say,
34:40
UAPs, I'm still with the UFOs. Okay, talk about you because you're
34:45
going to be speaking at a big I guess it's a UFO conference, right.
34:49
The phenomenon, well, well, the phenomenicon is, uh, you
34:52
know, people ask me, you know what trade? What are you now?
34:54
I get, you know, you know, contacted about the big bitmain
35:00
people in the UFO world asking my opinion on things. I still talk to
35:04
some pretty well known paranormal researchers, and of course I'm you know, investigating
35:09
and researching this other stuff. I'm a weird crap off. I just,
35:13
you know, if it's weird, you know, I look into it and
35:15
I try not to stick it in that narrow and narrow box. And fnancon
35:21
is kind of takes that kind of thing. Is. It's held in Vernal,
35:24
Utah, which is the closest decent sized Parent two skin Walker ranch,
35:30
and there's gonna be a lot of really dialed in folks there. Mike Ricky
35:34
Soccer, who is an excellent paranormal researcher and author, wrote an excellent book
35:38
on our Time and what it is and isn't. Ryan Skinner is going to
35:43
be there, doctor Travis Taylor, you know, skin Walker Ranch Pain,
35:47
the entire skin Walker Ranch crew is going to be there. A lot of
35:51
really, really really good folks that are looking at these things from a lot
35:54
of different facets. So I was invited to come out there and speak this
35:58
year. So I'm gonna be speaking on the Meadow project and you know,
36:01
some of the things that we've done in the past and kind of where we're
36:04
headed to in the future. So it's it's kind of a big deal and
36:07
I'm really excited about getting to go out there and uh, spend some time
36:10
with the folks out there. Infernal gatak. Oh, that's awesome. Okay,
36:17
So you mentioned Ryan Skinner. I read his books. That was The
36:22
skin Hunt for the skin Walker, right and that one of his books,
36:24
And we should invite him to come out to the Meadow with us sometimes when
36:29
you're out there. Oh, I have come on with us, Okay,
36:34
I have. He's he's one of a handful of people that actually knows where
36:38
it is, h and you know, kind of get his schedule set up.
36:43
But yeah, he's been invited out to the You've been invited out to
36:45
the meadow and you much mentioned the hunt for the skin Walker. A gentleman
36:51
is going to be there. You might have heard of him, George Knapp,
36:52
who is going to be there in a GTalk. So it's gonna be
36:57
a lot of really really cool that's gonna be awesome. Yes, Well,
37:04
because well I'm said that they. I was kind of associating it with you
37:07
UFOs and things like phenomenon because I wasn't really familiar with that conference. But
37:13
you've been speaking to a lot of UFO conferences though, and uh, and
37:15
that's kind of somehow I've like branched off into the cryptid world and you're more
37:21
like us, but we're on the same team. Is that weird or what?
37:24
Well, No, I don't. I don't think it is, you
37:27
know, And it's really funny because you know, I'm a you know,
37:31
I've got my toe encrypted, I've got my toe in UFO. I got
37:36
so many toes spread out there and all kinds of different things. You've got
37:38
a lot of toes, a lot of twenty twenty toes uh, mini toes.
37:45
Uh. What I'm finding in what I believe is, you know,
37:51
you have ufology you have, you know, cryptid research, you have,
37:55
you know, a paranormal research. I think they're all the same dog gone
38:00
thing. I think it's just how you look at it. And you know,
38:05
people are like, oh wow, that's a new way of looking at
38:07
things. Not really. You know, if you go back and you read
38:08
some of the earlier books about John Keel, he talks about this, these
38:13
things being all interconnected and it depends on your perspective. And one of the
38:19
things that I'll lecture about is truths with an as versus truth. There are
38:23
many truths, but not all truths are the truth. Your personal truth isn't
38:29
the whole picture. So if you have and I'll give an example, do
38:34
you remember the video we had of the entities out at the meadow and that
38:37
that that faithful night, the two thermal images of the two entities, Well,
38:43
a UFO guy would look at that and say, oh, well those
38:45
are you know, yeah, they were like light beings. You know.
38:49
Well, you know this place is known for UFOs, so those are obviously
38:52
aliens. And the big Foot gout and say, ah, yeah, you're
38:53
full of crap. That's obviously a big foot. There's been big foot sightings
38:58
around here, and a ghost guy would say, well, I can go
39:00
back in the history and show where there's a lot of our reports of haunting
39:05
that's a ghost. Well maybe you're all right, and maybe you're all wrong.
39:09
Maybe it's a phenomena that is there on its own terms. Then we
39:15
just have to be open minded enough to let it happen and trying to experience
39:20
it as it manifests. And that's you know, that's why you know it's
39:25
crazy. I mean, I had a call this this week from a pretty
39:30
big name, big name in the UFO world about something, and I'm like,
39:32
I'm not a UFO guy. You know why am I speaking at UFO
39:37
conferences? Because I think people are starting to realize that all of these phenomena,
39:43
all of these happenings, are congruent, you know, they're maybe all
39:47
part of the same thing. And if we're really going to try to peel
39:52
this onion and get down to the middle of it and find out what makes
39:55
it tick, maybe we need to start looking at it from all aspects and
39:59
all within of you. Oh my gosh, I just remembered something, Trey.
40:05
When I met you, you were at a bigfoot conference, but you
40:08
were wearing a Oxford Paranormal Society T shirt, and I remember you saying that
40:14
you felt like you were out of place being amongst a whole bunch of Bigfoot
40:16
researchers. Little did you know that we're all there, we're all good,
40:21
we were all ghost hunters, and we were not not everybody there, but
40:23
our team was right and and that's when you've kind of came on and on
40:28
board with our team with ear and building together. Yeah, and that was
40:34
kind of the cool thing is you know, here, I was the is
40:37
you know, a paranormal researcher at a big Foot convention. So you know,
40:42
I was kind of getting the stink guy from the you know, gigant
40:45
epiphthasis guys, you know, the flesh and blood big Foot guys. They're
40:47
kind of giving me the stink guy. And so I'm like, oh crap,
40:52
you know, am I going to get tied up to a tree and
40:53
smeared with honey ears? You know, what's what's going to happen here?
40:57
And so during the breaks, you know, the these you know pretty down
41:01
the earth crypted researchers would kind of look around and they kind of go over
41:06
to me and go, hey, I don't want anyone to know I'm over
41:07
here talking to you, but let me tell you about what I experienced.
41:12
I saw orbs, you know that was happening when we were researching. What
41:15
do you think about that? I'm like, you know, we see orbs
41:20
all the time, you know, we see it when we're ghost hunting,
41:23
and so we have orbs, you know, in big big Foot research we
41:27
have orbs. You know, when we're doing UFO stuff, we have orbs.
41:30
Who we're doing ghost stuff, they're all orbs. You know. It's
41:34
the same phenomena, it's the same situation, it's the same thing manifesting itself.
41:38
It just depends on how we look at it. So I'm really happy
41:42
to hear a lot of people in the various disciplines now saying, yeah,
41:45
you know, let's reach out there, let's talk to these other people and
41:49
learn from their experiences. And one of the coolest things, and you know
41:54
who I'm talking about, Terry who has been a guest on your show when
42:00
he is a very yes, very much a down to earth big Foot researcher,
42:07
and we kind of did kind of tricked him and David Pardi a little
42:10
bit and asked him to come to the meadow in research with us, and
42:15
they thought they were coming there to research big Foot, which there are we
42:17
having Haward cryptids out there. But then the portal and the cube appeared,
42:23
and I remember Terry, you know, just after that happened, just being
42:27
silent for about two or three hours, he said, my whole world just
42:30
changed. He goes that just everything is now different, and that kind of
42:37
epiphany. I think it is really really encouraging, you know, when you
42:43
see that happen to somebody and they realized, you know, the world is
42:46
a lot stranger than we think it is, but in some ways it's a
42:52
whole lot more personal and a lot more real than we think it is,
42:55
and we're actually part of it if we just want to open up our eyes
43:00
take a look. That's right. Yeah. Now, Terry Wendell is with
43:05
rock Hill Bigfoot out of South Carolina, and we had David Pardu there.
43:08
He's with North it's North Carolina or Carolina Crypto Researchers, and I think that's
43:15
Carolina Cryptic Field Researchers. I think it's this organization. But yeah, they
43:19
are. They were very much seemed to be. It was more more Terry.
43:22
I think it was more, you know, primate in the woods kind
43:24
of Bigfoot, not supernatural camp, you know, y'all. To everybody knows
43:29
there's two camps. There's flesh and blood and then the primate in the woods
43:32
camp, and then there's the they call us woo. But I don't take
43:37
a fist in that woo. I know that's that's that's us. But but
43:42
yeah, they but when they were out in the field and they were the
43:44
ones that actually spotted the portal opening up out there, David and Terry and
43:49
Kristen was out there too, and so anyways, it'll change your life.
43:53
That's why it's so important to keep an open mind and and to just experience
43:59
whenever we're out there in research. Don't assume something's one thing. And and
44:02
I think that the remote viewing training helps too, because we don't label things,
44:08
you know, right, And that's something that we struggle with, you
44:13
know, And I'll give it. I'll give a real world example of this.
44:15
We were out researching in the meadow in May just a few months ago,
44:21
and we had some situations where a guest researcher had some pre premonitions,
44:30
you know, she said that she felt like something was slinking along. Oh
44:35
hit their shake, you know, she felt like something was sleeping out there.
44:40
Yeah, you've been to the meadow. Something is creeping along, you
44:44
know, the ground and lurking about. Well, low and behold. The
44:47
next evening, one of our team members with his thermal picks up something blinking
44:52
along the ground. Jlack was predicted the evening before, but we had also
44:58
been talking about errors and mountain lions and stuff like that. So his normality
45:04
bias that the thermal operator kicked in and he said, oh, I'm seeing
45:07
something that's about the size of a bear or a large hog. It must
45:12
be a bear or a large hog. Well, he labeled it. And
45:15
because he labeled it and he put it into his normality bias, he didn't
45:19
record it because he rationalized it. Then looking back on it, it's like,
45:23
wait, you wouldn't have a bear, a hog, or a big
45:27
cat moving through a field with twenty people in it. Somebody would be upwind
45:31
of it and wouldn't even come close to that many humans. So we have
45:35
to be careful about, you know, our normality bias. And I mean
45:37
we even we suffer from it ourselves. I mean, I suffer from it.
45:42
I lost some video of a really really good UFO back in May because
45:47
out everything I saw it, I guess satellite, satellite, satellite. Then
45:51
this thing came by before I could figure out what it was, it was
45:53
gone. It's like, well, dang it, that wasn't a satellite.
45:58
So I mean it happens to everybody. Wow, that's part of the fun.
46:04
Oh yeah, well, I mean I okay, so I was out.
46:06
I haven't talked to you about this yet, Trey, so I'll just
46:08
talk about it live on air. I went up to Tennessee a couple of
46:12
months ago and did an investigation at a couple's home where they had a cave
46:16
in their backyard thirty feet from their back door, by the way, and
46:20
they were having their chickens going missing and something was taking them. They had
46:23
big foot activity, dog man activity, you name it. They were having
46:28
it in potential skin walkers in their cave. So of course what did I
46:31
do. I went up there. I didn't tell y'all I was going,
46:34
but I went, and I probably should have told somebody from my team,
46:37
But anyways, I went up there with a team of other folks from up
46:43
in Tennessee. And it was fantastic. Okay, it was absolutely fantastic.
46:50
But we were out in the field one night and we were going across the
46:53
road and there was it was just a bunch of like soybean fields and stuff,
46:58
and I just happened. You know, we're always trained to look up
47:00
right, look up to the sky, look up in the trees. And
47:02
I looked up in the sky and that starlink, that Eli mus starlink was
47:07
born across the sky. Now, some of those guys that were out there
47:09
with us, they had never even heard us, So imagine what they thought
47:16
when they saw that they had they had no idea what it was. They
47:20
thought we were being avail invaded by aliens. You know, they said they
47:22
would have had they had they not had us there to tell them what that
47:25
was. Right, It was weird, right, you know, it's a
47:30
misidentification of a lot of things. And that's that's where research comes into.
47:35
You know, take good notes, you know, document if you can,
47:38
using whatever methodology you have in your audio recorder, video thermal, you know,
47:43
whatever, and they come back and look at it and review it.
47:45
Now, we've had several things, you know, we've had out in the
47:47
meadow that we go back and look at. It's like, oh, okay,
47:51
well that that's explainable. We know what that is. I got myself
47:54
fooled really bad over some E MF spikes. It turned out that I had
48:00
cued my goat Pro with my phone and every time the bluetooth would communicate,
48:06
it would cause my my em My try Field despike. And it's like,
48:09
oh, okay, that's what that is. You know. That wasn't anything
48:14
anything super cool at all. So and we actually, I think when we
48:17
were out there in May, we saw starlink too, so it was kind
48:22
of cool. Yeah, that's right. And I actually saw starlink go over
48:28
my house last week. I think it was last week. I think it
48:30
was last week, went over the house in the middle of town. So
48:35
yeah, they're they're all over the place, you know. I just gotta
48:37
put a little tidbit of information out there. Somebody told me that starlink the
48:40
first is it Skylink or Starlink. I guess it's Starlink. I heard it
48:45
the first place that they released that was over Antarctica. Oh man, I
48:51
don't know if that's true or not, but makes you wonder what's an Antarctica,
48:53
Trey. I wouldn't know. Nice, you wouldn't know. Okay,
49:01
Well, lord William really wants to go to the meadow. He has put
49:05
so many I'm assuming you're he he has put so many comments about how he
49:09
wants to come to the meadow. So would do you ever let people go?
49:13
And I know I'm part of your team, but are there ever outside
49:16
people that come in other than our team to the meadow? Would you like
49:20
to discuss that? Yeah? There is. Usually what we'll do is we
49:23
do have a guest researcher program and they are usually people that you know,
49:30
we know, and you know I could name some names and you would you
49:34
would recognize them. There there are people that you know, are really well
49:37
known in their field and they sign a NDIA no disclosure agreement. And the
49:44
only thing that we hold people too is don't give up the location. The
49:49
only thing they can say, Okay, folks, go ahead and for a
49:52
couple of years, I'm going to tell you where the meadow is just south
49:55
of the Mason Dixon line and it's the east of Arizona. Now now you
50:00
know, no, And yeah, I tell people that broad of a you
50:05
know, a thing is you know, all you can give, but your
50:10
experience when you're out there researching with us is your experience. You know,
50:14
it doesn't belong to me, it's yours, and you can share that with
50:17
whomever you wish, you know, and sometimes, you know, we have
50:21
guest researchers go out there and nothing happens. And then sometimes we have guest
50:25
researchers go out there with us and the wheels come off and it's funny because
50:31
we have a guest researcher, a film producer and director that was out there
50:36
one time, not a whole lot went on. I was out there with
50:38
us last time and all kind of crazy stuff went on. So you know,
50:43
yeah, we do. We do have guest researchers go out there with
50:45
us. Usually there are folks that are unknown in the field. Katie Page,
50:49
and you talked about earlier. She started off as a guest researcher and
50:52
she's now an ASAD member. So yeah, yeah, we do have people
50:57
go out with us every work more. Yeah, just like Shay here,
51:02
Shay's in the chat. He and his lovely wife had been out in the
51:06
field with us too, and uh, yeah, we had great conversation.
51:09
Actually, you go Okay, So Trey, when they were out there with
51:13
us, I was, I was on a team with Shaye and his wife
51:17
and and you guys put us on top of where the portal opened. Let
51:22
me tell you that was that was an interesting night and we had yeah,
51:28
portal symbols. Okay, yes, all right. So I don't want to
51:30
get into detail with all the stuff that we did out there, but it
51:32
was next level stuff, y'all. Next level stuff to where we're actually questioning,
51:38
like did what we did on the mead in the meadow that night have
51:40
somebody to do with the portal that opened up? Like what was that five
51:45
years ago? Yeah? I don't know. Well that's a good point.
51:50
You know, if I'm there and I'm saying I want to manifest, and
51:53
you know about manifestation how that works. If I'm not clear on how are
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articulate the request for manifestation, it could manifest in that location. It could
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be five years ago, so you know, what we're manifesting, the requesting
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manifestation now might influence the future or the past. So you know, I
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mean that makes perfect sense because time, you know, is not linear,
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it's fluid and oftentimes, like I said, it looks back and touch itself
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at some time in the past or future. It's it's really wild. And
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uh and and the fact that the fact that I heard a voice and it
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was my voice, say time travel from across the way late one night,
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It just it all just brings it together for me to understand that this is
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way bigger than what these little matrix three D boxes we've been put into,
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like live I think so outside the box already, but it's just kind of
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it's kind of mind blowing out there. And uh yeah, and I'm I'm
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just excited that you're here. It's talk with me about this tonight and uh
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yeah, what do we have in our future trade like, what what does
53:05
plan for the future of anomalous studies and observation group edge research or what more
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cutting edge research? We We're going back out to the meadow in September,
53:16
and there's a area north of north of the Meadow that we've done research before
53:24
and if anybody's read the book, this area that I call Stevens Lake and
53:29
which is a hot spot for you know, cryptic sightings. Kristin and I
53:32
had some really cool UFO sightings and video that we've recorded there a few years
53:37
ago, So we're going to focus on that area. And the neat thing
53:42
about the Meadow is it's not just the meadow. I mean, the meadow
53:45
is very active. Don't don't don't don't get don't hear me wrong there,
53:50
but that whole region is very weird. So we have had extraordinary phenomena happened
53:55
to us in areas away from the Meadow. So what we're gonna do is
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change things up a little bit this time, and we're actually going to stay
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at a place called Baskin's Hollow Hunt Camp and spend some time out of Steven's
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Lake and see what happens. We're going to be doing some God Helmet stuff,
54:10
maybe some five stuff, you know, some hopefully manifestation of intent and
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see what happens. Oh my gosh, I can't wait. I'm gonna be
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there. I will be there with bills on, and I'm going to keep
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my keys on. A Caribbean were calling a Cabbean in my pocket? Okay,
54:31
I absolutely that's why. Yeah, I'm very cautious when I'm out there
54:37
with my vehicles, like I said in the beginning of the show today,
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but it's always a great time and so tree, where can people find you?
54:45
Tell us about your book and U and tell everybody the events that you're
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going to be in the future. Yeah, right now. The book is
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The Metal Project Explorations of the South skin Walker Ranching. You go to Amazon
54:58
and you type in my name Trey hut some you'll pop up. It's an
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audiobook, e book, hard hardback and salt back. It's also published in
55:07
French, so it's in Europe now too, so that's there. I will
55:10
be speaking at Phenomicon in Vernal, Utah in two weeks, and then I
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was speaking at the Molina, Georgia Bigfoot Festival in November, so that's always
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a longest one. Yep. That was actually one of my favorite bigfoot festivals
55:27
that I've ever been to. It's like a small town festival. I think.
55:30
I actually there's somebody in the chat night Jay do Or is in here,
55:34
okay, and he was there. I met him. I actually had
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several listeners people that watched the shows came and met me there at that festival.
55:43
And it's such as I mean when I say it's a small town,
55:45
it's like a small town, but they have what I think, it's a
55:49
famous big Foot stating called the Elkins Creek Bigfoot Trade. Is that right?
55:52
Yes? Okay, well that's that's really cool you guys, y'all, y'all
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come see us. I'm going to be there too. I think a lot
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of you want on our team will be there. And uh and I had
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to put this picture up trade. This is for a phenomenon right here.
56:06
So y'all definitely go see tray. Where is that again? You said?
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Virnal utah, virnal utah. Yeah, and these are look at this lineup
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right here. Man. You guys got some great speakers that are going to
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be there. There's people from the big Foot show up there on that top
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row. I recognize him, yep. So it's not it's not just UFOs,
56:27
it's big Foot too and everything. Absolutely okay, well yeah, okay,
56:34
so we have about a minute left. Is there any any final thoughts
56:37
on this show tonight? Tree, any advice you'd like to give to my
56:40
audience. Just the world is a lot stranger than you think it is.
56:47
Just open your eyes, grasp the experience, and enjoy the ride. Absolutely,
56:53
And I just wanted to take one second to give a huge thank you
56:59
to Christopher Christopher Crady sent me this today, Okay. So I have my
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viewers and my listeners, they'll occasionally they send me stuff and I have.
57:07
It just warms my heart. It makes my day. And I got this
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in addition to a couple of things today trade. But this is a this
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is a wooden UFO and it's carrying up a cube a portal okay, and
57:21
that is for yeah, in recognition of the Meadow project right there. So
57:24
and it glows in the dark too. So thank you Christopher for this.
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I'll put a post on Instagram tomorrow or something. Everybody can see that.
57:30
But it just warms my heart. It makes my day when I get stuff
57:32
like that because it shows that people are really interested in what we're doing out
57:36
there and the story. And I think it's so important that we tell our
57:39
story and that we do put it out there. And because we didn't tell
57:43
our story for a long time. It took me ten years to go public,
57:46
okay, and I know it was. It was something that you probably
57:52
Teeter tottered with two about writing your book and uh, and I think that
57:54
it's I'm just a blessing that we were able to come forward and tell our
57:59
stories because it's not something that we could originally plan to do at the very
58:02
beginning, right, So it's definitely touching people's lives and it's making the world
58:07
better in my opinion, because we're putting the truth out there, and so
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we need to continue to do that, Tray, and so thank you for
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being here with me tonight. You're awesome. Okay, we'll come back and
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see me again, please, Okay, and I will see the field.
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I'll see you next month, okay, Trey, all right, thank you.
58:24
I have a great night. Okay, all right, y'all, that
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was amazing. I have such a good time with Trey. We've been friends
58:31
for a long time and I enjoy being on his team and spending time out
58:36
in the woods doing research with Trey. Okay, y'all, Well, next
58:39
time on off the Trails. I'm going to tell y'all, I think we're
58:42
taking next week off. Davis out of town and so we're not going to
58:45
be doing shows this week and next weekend I'm probably gonna be off it's space
58:50
out radio. I might just have a very special show on my channel.
58:52
We'll see what happens. But until next time, y'all, I'm a crypto
58:57
huntress. I'm Jessica Jones. Thank y'all so much for all the super chats,
59:00
all the super stickers, for all your support. I love all you
59:04
guys, and I hope you guys have a great I guess I may not
59:07
see y'all before after until after Labor Day, Okay, but y'all have a
59:12
great week and come see me on my channel, The Cryptid Huntress. Okay,
59:16
I have shows this week and in this one. I'll probably have some
59:20
shows this weekend if we're not on air next weekend. All right, y'all
59:23
have a great night. I will see y'all next time, right,