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The Jesse Ventura They Don't Want You To See Pt. 3 - FEMA Concentration Camps · Conspiracy! The Show

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Speaker 1: Wait, true insurance the troth, I'm a check the aud Hey, everybody,
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Speaker 1: welcome to Conspiracy the Show. I'm Adam Todd Brown. Who
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Speaker 1: are you? I'm Olivia Hidar and who are we? We
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Speaker 1: are your co hosts Olivia. How's it going?
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Speaker 2: Oh, you know, not bad. Can't complain. I'm living in
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Speaker 2: a police state.
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Speaker 1: But other than that, are you excited to expose the truth? Oh?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. This episode is gonna be get banned.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this we're we're putting this one out for free.
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Speaker 1: We've been covering the highly banned second season of Conspiracy
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Speaker 1: Theory with Jess Mansura.
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Speaker 2: It's another victim of cancel culture. Except it wasn't canceled.
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Speaker 2: That got renewed for a third season, but then it
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Speaker 2: got canceled, so oh, it definitely got canceled. It is.
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Speaker 2: It's it's so weird that you can easily find the
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Speaker 2: first season and you can easily find the third season.
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Speaker 2: But is it But like, is it just because of
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Speaker 2: this episode or is it because of because like the
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Speaker 2: first season had the harp episode, right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the harp episode I think is one that's missing. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but like it's on daily Motion, just like the rest.
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Speaker 2: Of the well, I mean, yeah, everything, and we'll cover the.
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Speaker 1: Harp episode at some point. Yeah, we're making this one
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Speaker 1: free because this is this is the one, This is
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Speaker 1: the one that people really got upset over and it
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Speaker 1: never aired more than once.
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Speaker 2: The people deserve to know, and I you know, this
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Speaker 2: might be a bombshell that we can talk about as
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Speaker 2: we go. But I have a conspiracy theory about why
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Speaker 2: they went so hard on this episode.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think I can see where that conspiracy
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Speaker 1: theory's going, too.
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Speaker 2: Uh, because there's a lot of interesting things and a
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Speaker 2: lot of it is super inflammatory and probably untrue, but
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Speaker 2: it comes from a specific source and perspective that I
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Speaker 2: think ties into this. I don't know, I think it's interesting.
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Speaker 2: It's a really interesting episode.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have I have a theory about it too.
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Speaker 1: It mine mostly revolves around Alex Jones, same same, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so this is going to be a fun episode. That's
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Speaker 1: why we're putting it out for free. Absolutely, this is
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Speaker 1: an important sode. Yeah, we've been covering this entire season,
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Speaker 1: so we're we're four episodes in. Next week's bonus episode
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Speaker 1: is going to be episode three, which covers Wall Street,
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Speaker 1: and that one's also a doozy of an episode.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that wouldn't rules.
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Speaker 1: It rules because it's mostly true.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's just a documny.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's uh, the short that led to the
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Speaker 1: big short.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk about it when we get to that episode.
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Speaker 2: But it's it's kind of like a straight faced Borett
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Speaker 2: get a little bit and it rules. I love it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but let's talk about the Police State episode. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I didn't know there was a pandemic angle to this.
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Speaker 1: I didn't remember. I vividly remember seeing this episode, but
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Speaker 1: I didn't remember the pandemic thing.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and that is definitely Yeah. Again, it ties into
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Speaker 2: why this was banned.
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Speaker 1: I think the the opening scene is very confusing because
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Speaker 1: it's just it just immediately cuts to Jesse Ventura and
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Speaker 1: Alex Jones like stalking through the fourth They look like
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Speaker 1: the fucking monkeys or something like from behind trees. Yes,
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Speaker 1: why shit, it's a monkey's video.
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Speaker 2: I mean the banned It literally is like they're hiding
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Speaker 2: behind one tiny tree and like poking out either side.
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Speaker 1: It's so funny, and then they they don't really they
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Speaker 1: just cut away from that, and we're supposed to know
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Speaker 1: what that was all about. They are looking at a
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Speaker 1: bunch of things that they say are coffins. Sure, and
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Speaker 1: we'll get to it. They are, but it's not what
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Speaker 1: you think America. So Jesse's first actual interview is with
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Speaker 1: some woman named Catherine Bleisch, and Jesse, in introducing her,
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Speaker 1: gets way into can you believe girls do things too? Territory?
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Speaker 1: He's like, the government's watching her, but she's a girl.
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Speaker 2: What does an innocent girl have to do with the government.
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Speaker 1: It is a quintessential early twenty ten this moment.
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Speaker 2: Is this girl really a threat to the United States?
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Speaker 1: Like maybe, yeah, maybe outside. I don't want to take
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Speaker 1: that from women that they can never threaten the safety
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Speaker 1: of the United States, Absolutely sane. The reason she feels
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Speaker 1: like she might be considered a threat is because she
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Speaker 1: found out an agency in her state said she should
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Speaker 1: be considered a threat to law enforcement. And it turns
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Speaker 1: out all she did to get labeled subversive was to
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Speaker 1: work with Ron Paul. Yeah, which I don't know. That
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Speaker 1: does seem a little extreme in terms of reasons to
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Speaker 1: surveil someone.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not good, definitely. I think surveillance
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Speaker 2: state in general sucks.
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Speaker 1: But what people never take into account, like I'm not
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Speaker 1: saying it's right, obviously, but we have so many intelligence
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Speaker 1: agencies with such huge budgets they have time for this.
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Speaker 1: Like yeah, we like to think, Oh, the government doesn't
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Speaker 1: have time to come show up at my tiny environmental meeting.
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Speaker 1: The fuck they don't. They got time, They got the people,
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Speaker 1: and they have the.
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Speaker 2: Money and the motivation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't doubt that. What's Ron Paul
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Speaker 1: a libertarian?
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Speaker 2: Is that what his kind of I mean, he's a Republican, yeah,
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Speaker 2: but he's you know, he it's one of those he's
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Speaker 2: he is the closest to a classical libertarian that we
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Speaker 2: have had in Congress basically in a long time at least.
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Speaker 2: But you know, like most modern libertarians, he's libertarian up
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Speaker 2: to a point and way to a fault. Where to
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Speaker 2: the point where he like in his like presidential debates
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Speaker 2: and stuff, he was talking about defunding the Department of
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Speaker 2: Education and like he's all, no, exactly, it's it, and
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Speaker 2: like he is, he's a he is a monstrous person
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Speaker 2: in so many ways as a politician, but he does
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Speaker 2: you know, have you know as a libertarian? I used
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Speaker 2: to be a libertarian. I don't know if I've ever
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Speaker 2: talked about this on the show because it you know,
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Speaker 2: when I was like a lateeen early twenties in you know,
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Speaker 2: in Indiana where it's just kind of so oppressively red state,
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Speaker 2: the libertarian is that I read about and understood was
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Speaker 2: like more leftist than anything else. It was just like, hey,
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Speaker 2: don't fuck with gay people, they're people like everyone else,
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Speaker 2: and you know, make drugs legal and all the you
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Speaker 2: know that sort of thing. But it has just become
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Speaker 2: such a right wing identity. It's just morphed into this
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Speaker 2: very right wing defund you know, everything that's good and
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Speaker 2: you know, beef up police state and all that stuff.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do remember Ron Paul being one of those
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Speaker 1: alternative candidates that people on the left seem to swing
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Speaker 1: toward more than anything. Absolutely, it's almost like a leftist
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Speaker 1: Trump in that he's right like he he was definitely
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Speaker 1: sort of an outsider, but not really he'd been a
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Speaker 1: politician for a long time, right, And also you dig
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Speaker 1: into his past and.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, no, he's not. I don't think
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Speaker 2: on the whole his impact of politics was positive. But
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Speaker 2: you know, yeah, like I said, I when I was
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Speaker 2: like in my late twenties, he was the kind of
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Speaker 2: guy who would go on the Daily Show and he
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Speaker 2: would be, you know, more reasonable than your average Republican
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Speaker 2: and so you know, liberals would just be like, hey, yeah,
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Speaker 2: he's one of the good ones. This is great, but yeah,
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Speaker 2: they don't really interrogate his beliefs.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what she did to get in trouble, right,
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Speaker 1: she was on the Ron Paul train a little too early.
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Speaker 1: So they next they get into the Department of Homeland
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Speaker 1: Security and these things called fusion centers, yeah, which I said,
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Speaker 1: this is real.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not something that I a term that I
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Speaker 2: had ever really heard about before, but I do understand
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Speaker 2: the idea, the you know, high minded idea behind it.
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Speaker 1: Basically, fusion se are these agencies that are scattered throughout
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Speaker 1: the country. By the time of this episode, they had
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Speaker 1: like seventy something in the country and I looked it up.
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Speaker 1: There's still a thing. Yep, there's still there's articles out
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Speaker 1: there debating their effectiveness. But basically, what they are is
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Speaker 1: these agencies where all of the intelligence that like state
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Speaker 1: and local and federal authorities gather pertaining to that particular area.
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Speaker 1: It's all funneled through here and they act accordingly, which, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's scandalous, but it's also what the CIA was supposed
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Speaker 1: to be. Like, it's exactly what the CIA was supposed
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Speaker 1: to be. It was just a clearing house for all
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Speaker 1: the information gathered. I still think the more scandalous part
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Speaker 1: is that all the information is being gathered, and not
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Speaker 1: so much that it's being sent to these fucking strip
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Speaker 1: mall government rights.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like it just seems like a pretty
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Speaker 2: natural byproduct of homeland security. Like the whole you know,
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Speaker 2: the whole idea of homeland security is condensing all of
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Speaker 2: these disparate intelligence agencies into one thing, which is scary
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Speaker 2: on its own, and this just seems like kind of
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Speaker 2: a natural extension of this. You would need branches around
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Speaker 2: the country. Not that I think that this is good,
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Speaker 2: but I understand the logic behind it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a lot of that in this episode. Yes,
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Speaker 1: it's not good, but it's also dice we kind of
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Speaker 1: have to roll as a.
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Speaker 2: Country sometimes, I mean to an extent. I mean I
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Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know necessarily that we have to
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Speaker 2: roll these kind of dice, but like it's more like
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Speaker 2: I just understand why they like they took a bad
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Speaker 2: idea and they ran with it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of this country post World War too. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: taking a bad idea and running.
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Speaker 2: Right exactly and then amplified by a thousand after nine
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Speaker 2: to eleven.
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Speaker 1: So it's time for a team meeting. They're here to
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Speaker 1: talk about these fusion centers, and it seems like the
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Speaker 1: prevailing take is that they're angry because they thought this
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Speaker 1: would be a thing that was meant to monitor terrorists, right,
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Speaker 1: but instead it's monitoring American citizens. And I have two
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Speaker 1: problems with that. There aren't enough terrorists in the country
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Speaker 1: to justify seventy two fusion centers. And if you think
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Speaker 1: they are, you're a naive idiot.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And unfortunately, there are I think enough people in
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Speaker 2: this country who do believe something like that. Terrorism fear
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Speaker 2: is still hugely prevalent.
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Speaker 1: What there are enough of are.
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Speaker 2: Muslims exactly and immigrants, right.
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Speaker 1: And also that idea that, oh, well, they're monitoring American citizens,
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Speaker 1: American citizens can be terrorists, Like that's.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely well, and they this is something that is
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Speaker 2: going to come up again and again during this episode.
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Speaker 2: But like the two examples that they keep coming to
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Speaker 2: of groups that would you know, innocent American activism. Groups
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Speaker 2: that would be targeted by this system are pro gun
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Speaker 2: and pro life people. Those are the two specific ideologies
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Speaker 2: that are called out as in danger of being monitored,
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Speaker 2: when first of all, we know for a fact that
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Speaker 2: this is not exclusively but majority targeted at anarchists and
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Speaker 2: left wing protesters right and also abortion denied, like pro
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Speaker 2: life people bomb clinics, and pro gun people are violent
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Speaker 2: as well. Like there's just like, you know, at a
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Speaker 2: certain point, you've gotta monitor some of those people, not
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Speaker 2: that you know, I don't know, maybe the government doesn't
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Speaker 2: have to, but there's reason there. They they blow things
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Speaker 2: up and then that's bad.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's always going to have to be
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Speaker 1: some degree of monitoring in law enforcement. Like we've all
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Speaker 1: seen the wire, that's all. It's called the wire for
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Speaker 1: a reason. It's because they were monitoring drug dealers in
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Speaker 1: Baltimore and that's how they they brought them down, and
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Speaker 1: drugs ended in Baltimore forever after.
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Speaker 2: That exactly, and everything was great.
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Speaker 1: But I mean, I do I do get the concern
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Speaker 1: over this obviously. Also. Yeah, So the next person he
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Speaker 1: interviews is Mike Jerman, a former FBI agent who used
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Speaker 1: to prevent terrorism. It's like, yeah, you did, for sure,
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Speaker 1: Sure you did. He looks like a guy who could
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Speaker 1: just meld into terrorism circles with him.
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Speaker 2: Oh for sure. Oh yeah, go on, you're thinking, and
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Speaker 2: he's going undercover. I get it. I mean he just
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Speaker 2: has that kind of swarthy look.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got that natural, smooth charm exactly. And he
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Speaker 1: says our intelligence agencies have no oversight and that they
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Speaker 1: sometimes collect information that isn't even related to crime. I'm shocked.
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Speaker 1: I'm shocked to hear this.
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Speaker 2: This is similar to a previous episode where so much
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Speaker 2: of this is just we know now that this is
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Speaker 2: true and it's not a hypothetical, and it's not even
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Speaker 2: really directed. It seems like they're collecting data on everybody.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean now we're to the point where
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Speaker 1: we're giving it away, and then there's that even have
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Speaker 1: to We did an episode of Unpopular Opinion about phone
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Speaker 1: location data, and the FBI can just go buy that
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Speaker 1: like they don't have to. They do have to get
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Speaker 1: a warrant if they want to get it directly from
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Speaker 1: your phone carrier, right, but they can also just go
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Speaker 1: out on the fucking public market and buy it. Because
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Speaker 1: the government didn't tell them they couldn't and so, yeah,
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Speaker 1: this like none of it's surprising, but it is a
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Speaker 1: thing we probably could have stood to be a little
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Speaker 1: more angry about when absolutely, but that hats all the
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Speaker 1: way back to the Patriot Act exactly, and people were
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Speaker 1: angry about it, you know again, as a as a
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Speaker 1: young teenager, it was something that I was super concerned about,
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Speaker 1: and no one cared until it started to affect everyone
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Speaker 1: except for, you know, other than the Muslims. I wonder
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Speaker 1: if anyone has read the entire Patriot Act.
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Speaker 2: It's so god, it's so dense, and it's like, isn't
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Speaker 2: it Like it's so long. I don't even know the
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Speaker 2: exact page number, but I think it's huge. Oh it's
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Speaker 2: three hundred and forty two pages long. That is not
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Speaker 2: as long as I thought it was.
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Speaker 1: Was that abridged because.
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Speaker 2: It might be a yeah, that's what I'm saying. I
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Speaker 2: had heard very vastly larger numbers.
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Speaker 1: But is there an audiobook? And does Dick Cheney narrate it?
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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong.
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Speaker 1: If so, but yeah, I would listen to that.
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Speaker 2: Oh that never mind.
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Speaker 1: Fucking Google sucks, fucking Google.
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Speaker 2: Fucking Google sucks. It was. It gave me a result
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Speaker 2: because the article featured the phrase Patriot Act, but it
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Speaker 2: was talking about some whole other fucking bill. I'm pretty
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Speaker 2: sure it's over thousand pages long.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty long.
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Speaker 2: That's that was Like one of the whole things about
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Speaker 2: when it was being passed is no one was reading
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Speaker 2: the goddamn thing. That's the whole thing. We did so
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Speaker 2: much shit in this country out of pure animal panic
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Speaker 2: and fear like that was what was dominating basically every
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Speaker 2: aspect of our culture for like over a year after that,
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Speaker 2: like years, like so much of our governing was based
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Speaker 2: on this just primal fear.
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Speaker 1: And so Mike says, these fusion centers are meant to
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Speaker 1: grease the skids for martial law in the future. Actually,
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Speaker 1: I think Jesse Venturis uses that phrase right.
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Speaker 2: Jesse Venturia loves to invoke martial law.
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Speaker 1: And my concern still upon hearing that these places exist,
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Speaker 1: is I'd be more worried about them being used to
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Speaker 1: round up like dhaka recipients exactly or something like that exactly.
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Speaker 1: That is not a ship that has sailed.
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Speaker 2: This is the thing. This is my whole take about
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Speaker 2: this episode is that it is about immigration, and they
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Speaker 2: never talk about immigration. It just never comes up. But
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Speaker 2: literally everything that they talk about, or basically everything that
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Speaker 2: they talk about is actually the Obama administration preparing for
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Speaker 2: a massive immigration crisis.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, basically preparing for what Trump right.
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Speaker 2: Well, preparing for what Obama did by the end of
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Speaker 2: his term that Trump then ramped up. That's that's what
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Speaker 2: this is. And they they are everybody that they talk
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Speaker 2: to on this is just is just so you know,
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Speaker 2: they got their blinders on. You know, they are just
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Speaker 2: tunnel vision on how it can affect libertarians and right
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Speaker 2: wing people.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And one of the people Jesse Ventura talks to
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Speaker 1: next is some guy that he just like ambushes a
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Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security outside a fusion center. And one
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Speaker 1: thing I love is this isn't how the interviews normally go.
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Speaker 1: Normally he's getting denials and shit, and this guy is
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Speaker 1: just so casual about Yeah, I mean, we might spy
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Speaker 1: on you, like we'll spy on anyone for anything. And
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Speaker 1: I kind of respect that, Like, like, I like, how
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Speaker 1: honest he was already Yes, yeah, I mean respect might
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Speaker 1: be a strong.
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Speaker 2: One, you know, to an extent.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do. Like when he says, we don't
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Speaker 1: watch people, we watch trends. That actually sounds creepy.
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Speaker 2: Sure, I mean I don't know that sounds like people.
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Speaker 2: You know, trends don't just appear out of nowhere.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Jesse Ventura actually says that. He says,
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Speaker 1: we are trends people.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in both of these episodes that we're talking about.
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Speaker 2: In these next couple episodes, he does get a few,
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Speaker 2: like really good lines, like his his very simplistic way
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Speaker 2: of interrogating things actually is effective when tackling these institutions
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Speaker 2: that are on their face a moral and disgusting.
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Speaker 1: So now here comes Alex Jones.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where the episode just starts to nosedive.
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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, I still maintain he's a fucking
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Speaker 1: government plant.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And this is my whole thing about this episode,
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Speaker 2: And and this is the reason why it got pulled
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Speaker 2: is because they got Alex Jones on there. And Alex
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Speaker 2: Jones is doing what he does, which is taking something
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Speaker 2: that is real and tacking a bunch of fake, fucking
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Speaker 2: bullshit onto it that's super extremist and is designed to
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Speaker 2: get mainstream pushback. And then this episode comes out and
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Speaker 2: it gets bulled because you know, he's he's pushing a
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Speaker 2: bunch of shit that is dangerous and a lie, but
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Speaker 2: it's covering up all of this immigration stuff.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the idea he's pushing in this case is
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Speaker 1: that the government is setting up concentration camps to hold
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Speaker 1: average Americans like you and me. Yeah, well, I mean
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Speaker 1: not like you and me, I mean me and Alex
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Speaker 1: Jones and Jesse been sure.
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Speaker 2: Right right exactly. No, I guess I'm safe in this,
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Speaker 2: in this backwards world. And it's and it's just again
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Speaker 2: the freezing as with the team meeting is so it's
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Speaker 2: just such a tell where I can't remember if it's
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Speaker 2: Alex Jones or Jesse Is like, you know, they they're
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Speaker 2: you know, they're not just going to be holding immigrants
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Speaker 2: in these in these places, they're going to have American
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Speaker 2: citizens in there too. As if that's the problem.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of the overall problem with this episode
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Speaker 1: is they're not bothered by what they're being used for.
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Speaker 1: Even at this point it comes out in this episode
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Speaker 1: what they're being used for, and it's yeah, rents.
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Speaker 2: Well, and yeah, I love the scene where they he
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Speaker 2: talks to those people, but well, because there's stuff there,
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Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah, this ship is wild.
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Speaker 1: They do bring up a couple things that are real.
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Speaker 1: John is REX eighty four, which it's a it's a
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Speaker 1: thing Oliver North somehow brought to life. And it's this
21:19
Speaker 1: directive that came out during the Reagan administration that explains
21:23
Speaker 1: how in the event of some sort of national emergency,
21:26
Speaker 1: if we have to initiate martial law, this is how
21:29
Speaker 1: we'll do it, right, And yeah, that's scary, but you
21:31
Speaker 1: got to expect the government's going to have something like
21:33
Speaker 1: that in place.
21:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like the government's job, you know, in theory,
21:39
Speaker 2: is to make the plans for basically any contingency that
21:43
Speaker 2: we can think of. It's why we have plans for
21:45
Speaker 2: if aliens come to earth, like, you know, we got
21:50
Speaker 2: all sorts of plans.
21:51
Speaker 1: They also bring up the Council of Governors, which, yeah,
21:54
Speaker 1: actually doesn't sound that scary to me at all.
21:57
Speaker 2: Oh, it's not scary at all. And there's this whole
22:00
Speaker 2: thing he's really hung up on how the Council of
22:05
Speaker 2: Governors is divided up into these ten regions, and he
22:09
Speaker 2: he does this very funny overlay of that with I
22:14
Speaker 2: think it was the FEMA map that showed the regions
22:17
Speaker 2: where they where. FEMA was focusing on the digitiis and
22:22
Speaker 2: he overlays them like this is some sort of secret
22:25
Speaker 2: code that he's unlocked, when in reality, it's just like, well,
22:30
Speaker 2: that's the agreed upon regional divisions, Like that's where the
22:36
Speaker 2: code of Governors, that not Council of Governors comes from.
22:39
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, I mean we probably would need some level
22:43
Speaker 1: of coordination depending on the emergency, Like if the power
22:47
Speaker 1: grid goes down absolutely all around the country, you're gonna
22:50
Speaker 1: you're gonna appreciate that there's some coordination.
22:55
Speaker 2: Look, man, I I am so skeptical of of anything
22:59
Speaker 2: that the government does. And I'm sure that there are
23:02
Speaker 2: nefarious purposes for a Council of Governors. I'm sure they
23:06
Speaker 2: aren't great you know, things happening there. But also, like
23:11
Speaker 2: in a even in a good government that is ethical
23:15
Speaker 2: and functions normally and properly and you know, is actually
23:20
Speaker 2: working for the people, we would need something like this
23:23
Speaker 2: because we're fucking huge and so like we would need,
23:28
Speaker 2: you know, a group of people who are familiar with
23:30
Speaker 2: their own specific area to meet up and be able
23:34
Speaker 2: to coordinate.
23:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to be like we're so divided as the country,
23:40
Speaker 1: and the way this thing works, it's I think five
23:43
Speaker 1: Republicans and five Democrats. Yeah, so it's it's even in
23:47
Speaker 1: that way, like right, it just seems like, yeah, you're right,
23:50
Speaker 1: there probably are some nefarious purposes, but also what do
23:54
Speaker 1: we do again? Yeah, there's a dice, we got a roll.
23:57
Speaker 2: How else are you going to coordinate between fifty across
24:01
Speaker 2: like three thousand miles wide, Like it's just insane and honestly,
24:06
Speaker 2: you know, and this is definitely something that's come up
24:09
Speaker 2: on the show that that map looks like a pretty
24:13
Speaker 2: good way to just divide us up into multiple countries.
24:16
Speaker 2: I think that seems pretty recent.
24:17
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind just doing that.
24:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be good. I've always that has always
24:23
Speaker 2: been my solution to the complete breakdown of our government
24:28
Speaker 2: and society is we need to be central Europe. Like
24:32
Speaker 2: that's what we need to be, and you know, maybe
24:34
Speaker 2: have a European Union type thing where we're working together.
24:38
Speaker 2: But like, we can't keep going like this.
24:41
Speaker 1: No, So next they send day On the Skeptic out
24:45
Speaker 1: into the streets.
24:46
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, real quick, real quick, did they like like
24:50
Speaker 2: kill Alex the Skeptic?
24:52
Speaker 1: I think so because he's in the first episode, yes.
24:55
Speaker 2: Exactly, he's in the first episode and then is not
24:58
Speaker 2: in has not been in any of the other episodes
25:01
Speaker 2: so far, and he's been replaced by this Dan guy,
25:05
Speaker 2: who is somehow even worse.
25:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's way worse. I miss Alex.
25:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna yell the fuck out of Dan on
25:12
Speaker 2: the Wall Street episode because that guy sucks ass.
25:17
Speaker 1: He for some reason hops in his car to conduct
25:19
Speaker 1: a video interview with a prison camp activist named William Lewis.
25:26
Speaker 2: Like, I definitely need some more information on what that means.
25:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, he talks about HR six forty five, which is
25:34
Speaker 1: indeed a bill that passed that called for building these
25:38
Speaker 1: detention facilities all around the country. Right, there was also
25:41
Speaker 1: an executive order in like twenty eighteen, well that called
25:44
Speaker 1: for building them.
25:45
Speaker 2: But they they're not they're not detention centers. The FEMA
25:49
Speaker 2: things is the thing that's not how they're described, and
25:52
Speaker 2: that's not their stated purpose.
25:55
Speaker 1: No, I mean, it depends on which ones you're talking about.
25:58
Speaker 1: The one they visit has called a resident.
26:02
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, and again, this is the whole
26:06
Speaker 2: smoke screen of this episode, and it's given away by
26:11
Speaker 2: one of the people that they talk to at that facility,
26:15
Speaker 2: which is that is not a FEMA facility, that is
26:20
Speaker 2: an ICE facility. They mentioned talking to ICE, like the
26:24
Speaker 2: lady is like, why don't we redirect you to our
26:27
Speaker 2: ICE uh, you know, local ICE headquarters and you can
26:32
Speaker 2: and like that's the giveaway it is this is not
26:35
Speaker 2: related to the FEMA camps.
26:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, the the FEMA camps, they don't ever really show
26:40
Speaker 1: no or they're like it's either that or they're just
26:43
Speaker 1: conflating these two things, right, because these are definitely immigrant immigrant.
26:47
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's yeah, that is what they are at, that's
26:50
Speaker 2: what they visit. But that was what really tipped me
26:53
Speaker 2: off to like the whole smoke screen of this is, yeah,
26:57
Speaker 2: they're just conflating the real, very real ICE immigration detention
27:02
Speaker 2: centers with the FEMA camps that are outlined in the bill.
27:07
Speaker 2: And another giveaway is that the whole reason they're in
27:11
Speaker 2: the bill is so they can be built in the future,
27:15
Speaker 2: whereas they visit a facility that is built and running,
27:20
Speaker 2: so it doesn't really apply.
27:23
Speaker 1: Now here's a scene. I really hated this guy that
27:26
Speaker 1: he's doing this interview with in the car directs him
27:30
Speaker 1: to one of these facilities, and he Dan the Skeptic,
27:35
Speaker 1: gets to this facility and he pulls up to this
27:37
Speaker 1: fenced entrance that it looks like an entrance, and you
27:42
Speaker 1: do see some like bunker looking sort of things down
27:45
Speaker 1: in this sort of valley area. And it's in Los Angeles, right,
27:50
Speaker 1: And then like cops show up and Dan's like, oh,
27:53
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get out of here. And here's the thing.
27:56
Speaker 1: I don't know if maybe the person editing this show
28:00
Speaker 1: doesn't like Jesse Ventura and his team, but they flash
28:04
Speaker 1: a sign on the screen as Dan is backing up,
28:08
Speaker 1: and here's what that sign says. Access to Van Norman
28:12
Speaker 1: Reservoir complex must be made through security gates located on
28:16
Speaker 1: Rinaldi Street and Suppulvita Boulevard. So of all the times
28:20
Speaker 1: to not just go up to security and be like, hey,
28:22
Speaker 1: what is this, Yeah, this is the time they decide
28:25
Speaker 1: not to do that when there's a perfectly helpful sign
28:29
Speaker 1: telling you that that's where you should go. Of course
28:32
Speaker 1: they're suspicious if you look into it. This is the
28:35
Speaker 1: reservoir for LA's water. Yeah, Like it's how they get
28:40
Speaker 1: water to La and keep it clean.
28:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, like LA for those who maybe don't know, is
28:46
Speaker 2: in a desert and having a fresh source of water
28:50
Speaker 2: is vital to keeping everyone in La alive.
28:56
Speaker 1: And I don't get why you don't do your usual
29:00
Speaker 1: interview things.
29:00
Speaker 2: Well, because it's it's this fucking coward Dan, who I
29:06
Speaker 2: fucking hate.
29:07
Speaker 1: I hate Dan.
29:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't like him. He he is somehow
29:12
Speaker 2: worse a least believable, less believable skeptic than Alex. It's
29:16
Speaker 2: insane speaking of Alex.
29:19
Speaker 1: Now he and Jesse are going to check out an
29:22
Speaker 1: American concentration camp.
29:24
Speaker 2: Did Alex the skeptic like animorph into Alex Jones?
29:29
Speaker 1: Oh no, that was Bill Hicks. But that is a
29:31
Speaker 1: compelling thing.
29:32
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, Billy's weird.
29:36
Speaker 1: There are some there are some weird there's some weirdness
29:39
Speaker 1: between Alex Jones and Bill Hicks.
29:41
Speaker 2: But but Alex Jones doesn't have the sense of empathy
29:45
Speaker 2: of Bill Hicks.
29:46
Speaker 1: Maybe Bill Hicks lost his.
29:48
Speaker 2: When he died. Yeah, maybe.
29:50
Speaker 1: Yeah. So when they say they're going to check out
29:54
Speaker 1: an American concentration camp, what they're really checking out is
29:57
Speaker 1: the t Don Huddo Residential Center. And we were using
30:02
Speaker 1: it then for the same thing we're using it for
30:04
Speaker 1: now it is a ICE detention center yep. And Alex
30:08
Speaker 1: Jones covers this part by just like casually throwing out that, well,
30:13
Speaker 1: y yeah, they'll use it for immigrants first and then
30:17
Speaker 1: Americans exactly next.
30:19
Speaker 2: And again one of the many tells of where this
30:23
Speaker 2: episode is misleading you.
30:25
Speaker 1: Right, And here's the thing. I can absolutely see a
30:29
Speaker 1: scenario where Americans get up in arms enough that the
30:33
Speaker 1: government goes out and has to arrest people in Mass.
30:37
Speaker 2: I have a list here of every ICE detention center
30:40
Speaker 2: and then HUDDO is there and it is currently in use.
30:44
Speaker 2: It is a resident yeah, I looked it up. Yeah,
30:47
Speaker 2: So that's just what this is.
30:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just that the more immediate threat from
30:53
Speaker 1: these places is that we're going to round up immigrants
30:56
Speaker 1: and deport them in mass.
30:59
Speaker 2: And the thing about it, you know, it's not that
31:02
Speaker 2: we don't round up protesters and you know, persecute protesters,
31:07
Speaker 2: almost all of them left wing and the anarchists, but
31:10
Speaker 2: we just put them in prison. We don't or kill them.
31:12
Speaker 2: We actually don't need detention centers for that. Like that's
31:15
Speaker 2: the thing.
31:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's again one of the big problems with
31:20
Speaker 1: this is it's a question that comes up with governments
31:23
Speaker 1: all the time as well. What do you mean when
31:24
Speaker 1: you're talking about terrorists? And in the case of this show,
31:28
Speaker 1: I want to know what Jesse Ventura and team mean
31:31
Speaker 1: yeah when they're talking about terrorists, because I kind of
31:33
Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, left wing protesters and anarchists would be
31:37
Speaker 1: considered terrorists exactly the Jesse Ventura regime, and.
31:41
Speaker 2: Not bomb throwing pro life advocates, who again are the
31:47
Speaker 2: only one of the only two groups that are specifically
31:51
Speaker 2: brought up as innocent groups that are in danger of
31:55
Speaker 2: being rounded up by this nefarious program.
31:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's analysis.
32:00
Speaker 2: This is the first time that this show has been
32:02
Speaker 2: openly right wing. That is one my major problem with
32:06
Speaker 2: this episode.
32:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Obama was in office, so I.
32:10
Speaker 2: Mean yeah, but he's been office the whole show, Like, oh.
32:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess he has. So now we're in the
32:17
Speaker 1: woods and Alex and Jesse. This is the scene we
32:20
Speaker 1: saw in the open where it sucks. They're peeking around
32:24
Speaker 1: the forest there there there's this scene where they just
32:28
Speaker 1: both kind of rise up. Yeah, they look all wide
32:31
Speaker 1: eyed and what they're seeing.
32:33
Speaker 2: And they don't really show what they're seeing. He kind
32:36
Speaker 2: of get a glimpse.
32:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's a it's like a scene out
32:40
Speaker 1: of Gone Fishing or something. It looks like a Buddy
32:44
Speaker 1: comedy star and aging dudes.
32:46
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's just Alex Jones. Like, you know,
32:52
Speaker 2: he isn't he's got that entertainment bone in him in
32:57
Speaker 2: addition to his his insane bone. But like he is
33:03
Speaker 2: compelling to watch, at least in this time period.
33:07
Speaker 1: Now, he's a clone made from Bill Hicks DNA.
33:11
Speaker 2: The problem is that he has just grown so large
33:14
Speaker 2: and pink over the years that he is just yeah, yeah,
33:20
Speaker 2: that's why he's he's like mutating and like he has
33:24
Speaker 2: just lost all entertainment value as the years have gone on.
33:27
Speaker 2: But like this is like prime. He's kind of funny
33:31
Speaker 2: to watch, even if he's a lunatic spreading dangerous ideas.
33:34
Speaker 1: I still maintain the most charming Alex Jones has ever been.
33:38
Speaker 1: I saw a early video of him when he just
33:41
Speaker 1: had a public access show. Yeah, and it was Halloween
33:44
Speaker 1: and he was just carving pumpkins and taking calls from uhh,
33:48
Speaker 1: wear's that Alex Jones?
33:49
Speaker 2: I would watch that. That sounds probably probably not that.
33:53
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would do that. I don't
33:55
Speaker 2: want to be in a room with him, but like.
33:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean I would carve pumpkins all taking
33:59
Speaker 1: questions from people. For sure. We should do that.
34:01
Speaker 2: That would be fun.
34:02
Speaker 1: That would be a lot of fun.
34:03
Speaker 2: Uh. But like he you know, he was in the
34:05
Speaker 2: he was also in I've mentioned this before, he was
34:07
Speaker 2: in a Scanner Darkly Richard Link Leader's a Scanner Darkly
34:11
Speaker 2: because he was just like a local Austin guy who
34:14
Speaker 2: everybody just kind of knows as a fun kook.
34:17
Speaker 1: That's how the infiltrators always start.
34:19
Speaker 2: And yeah, and this is this has sold me entirely
34:23
Speaker 2: on him being a plant this episode. I was kind
34:27
Speaker 2: of on the fence before.
34:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he does show up, like right when they
34:32
Speaker 1: not long after the thing where the woman let slip that, hey,
34:36
Speaker 1: you should call Ice, right you have questions about what's
34:39
Speaker 1: happening here. Yeah, and then boom, that's when Alex Joff
34:42
Speaker 1: shows up exactly and he takes it. Turns out the
34:45
Speaker 1: thing they're traversing the woods to look at they call
34:49
Speaker 1: them coffins. They say, look, there's all these coffins and
34:53
Speaker 1: they don't look like coffins that I've ever seen. No
34:56
Speaker 1: and it turns out that what they are is basic
35:00
Speaker 1: grave liners. So you dig the grave, then you put
35:03
Speaker 1: this liner in it, and then you put the coffin
35:06
Speaker 1: in that, right, and it's meant to keep it safe.
35:09
Speaker 1: And they're like, well, well why do they need so many?
35:12
Speaker 1: In this company that makes them? They're called Vantage Products
35:16
Speaker 1: corp Ugh, So Advantage Products Corpse.
35:20
Speaker 2: Every every fucking company that has a name like that
35:23
Speaker 2: is so fucking sinister. The more boring the name, the
35:28
Speaker 2: more sinister it seems.
35:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, And here's the thing, it's not that they aren't sinister,
35:33
Speaker 1: it's just I don't think the conclusion they come to
35:36
Speaker 1: here is correct, right exactly, because what they're arguing first
35:41
Speaker 1: first their question is well why do you need because
35:45
Speaker 1: the company is like, well, we did we make them
35:47
Speaker 1: for when we need to send them out? What do
35:49
Speaker 1: you what do you want? You think we custom make
35:52
Speaker 1: these things. We have a fucking field where we keep
35:55
Speaker 1: them exactly And they're like, well, why would you need
35:59
Speaker 1: that many all at once? And it's like, man, seven
36:02
Speaker 1: thousand some people die in the United States every day,
36:05
Speaker 1: like they're gonna need to have them on hand getting
36:09
Speaker 1: buried all the.
36:09
Speaker 2: Time, exactly, Like where do you think this is how
36:14
Speaker 2: it's done with basically any manufacturing industry. It's not like
36:18
Speaker 2: they make each one as they sell. It doesn't make
36:21
Speaker 2: any sense.
36:22
Speaker 1: And yeah, I like that. At the end of the
36:24
Speaker 1: episode they mentioned that this company came and hauled all
36:26
Speaker 1: these things away, and it's like, yeah, I wonder why.
36:29
Speaker 1: Probably because Jesse Venture and Alex Jones showed up and
36:34
Speaker 1: now that's gonna be on TV and everyone else is
36:36
Speaker 1: gonna come Jesus. And here's the thing. It's not that
36:39
Speaker 1: they're not sinister, no, because here's what they do. They
36:43
Speaker 1: they draw this path from Vantage Corp. To a company
36:47
Speaker 1: called Hercules Incorporated. Vantage Corp used to be a research
36:52
Speaker 1: and development wing of Hercules Incorporated. Hercules Incorporated is a
36:57
Speaker 1: subsidiary of Halliburton. So the conclusion they're trying to draw
37:02
Speaker 1: here is why is Halliburton buying so many coffins from
37:07
Speaker 1: Vantage Corp? Vantage Products? And here's the thing. If you
37:12
Speaker 1: dig into Hercules Incorporated, one of the things they worked
37:15
Speaker 1: on were rockets, rockets, missiles sometimes even like intercontinental ballistic missiles.
37:23
Speaker 1: And one of the things we know goes into making
37:25
Speaker 1: a rocket is foam, yep and structural foam because they
37:29
Speaker 1: have to be made out of very lightweight products, so
37:32
Speaker 1: they exactly fly. And if you go to I'll link
37:35
Speaker 1: to the there's a Newton Chamber of Commerce page for
37:39
Speaker 1: Vantage Products court. There you go, and they say their
37:42
Speaker 1: main contribution to the funeral industry structural foam. Ay, so
37:47
Speaker 1: clearly they're selling coffins to hallibur It's like, no, they
37:51
Speaker 1: help Haliburton make fucking.
37:52
Speaker 2: Rockets, Yeah, which is not good.
37:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I don't I don't doubt that this is
37:57
Speaker 1: a government owned place that's like, also, we should make
38:00
Speaker 1: some funeral shit to cover.
38:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's a separately bad thing. But again, they're
38:05
Speaker 2: just you know, and Alex Jones is just ready to
38:09
Speaker 2: totally leap on the most extreme interpretation of these you
38:14
Speaker 2: know events.
38:15
Speaker 1: And so is Jesse venture And well.
38:17
Speaker 2: Jesse Ventura is, as I've mentioned on basically every episode
38:22
Speaker 2: of this the most credulous person who has ever lived
38:26
Speaker 2: in history, and will literally believe anything that you tell
38:30
Speaker 2: him as long as you say it, Like, did you
38:33
Speaker 2: know that frogs actually eat brains? It's true.
38:38
Speaker 1: They're making the frogs gay.
38:40
Speaker 2: They're making the frogs gay, and the gay frogs eat brains.
38:44
Speaker 1: Yep. So now we're back to the detention centers. And
38:47
Speaker 1: at this point, I'm like, are they gonna bury us
38:49
Speaker 1: all or kill or arrest us all? Because if they're
38:52
Speaker 1: just gonna throw everyone in detention centers, what are the
38:55
Speaker 1: coffins for.
38:56
Speaker 2: Well, this should tie into something that we haven't really
39:00
Speaker 2: mentioned about this whole thing, which is every time they
39:06
Speaker 2: mentioned the word concentration camp or allude to it, they
39:10
Speaker 2: show black and white footage of Nazi Germany and concentration camps.
39:16
Speaker 2: And I think that's literally what they are thinking. It's
39:21
Speaker 2: like they needed the concentration camp where they're going to
39:25
Speaker 2: work us to death.
39:26
Speaker 1: Oh that makes sense when.
39:28
Speaker 2: In fact, weirdly enough, compared to other prisons, at least
39:32
Speaker 2: from what I know, they put immigrants in detention centers
39:36
Speaker 2: and you know, deprive them of most of their needs
39:41
Speaker 2: and don't make them work. Yeah, yeah, Like it's very
39:45
Speaker 2: Actually it must be a pr thing that they don't
39:48
Speaker 2: make them work, right.
39:49
Speaker 1: It could be like, actually, there was a scandal that
39:52
Speaker 1: came out at one point about the work that was
39:56
Speaker 1: being offered to immigrants and detention centers.
39:59
Speaker 2: Oh well, you know, maybe they are making them work.
40:01
Speaker 2: I haven't done enough research on that.
40:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were getting paid I think it was a
40:06
Speaker 1: dollar an hour, and if they chose not to work,
40:09
Speaker 1: they were like deprived of basic needs. But you don't
40:14
Speaker 1: worry a little. The immigrants are being harshly treated right
40:18
Speaker 1: in these facilities.
40:20
Speaker 2: But not work to death does not work.
40:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have the option to be worked to death
40:25
Speaker 1: or not, but choose not to, they'll be something else
40:29
Speaker 1: to death.
40:30
Speaker 2: And these in these places they aren't prisons because prisoners
40:34
Speaker 2: they make what twenty five cents to fifty cents an hour,
40:38
Speaker 2: Like you're doubling that baby, that's you know, that's chump
40:42
Speaker 2: change compared to your buck an hour.
40:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to be in the illuminati soon with
40:46
Speaker 1: that much cash. And so they they do touch on
40:50
Speaker 1: something that's kind of timely, but also something that sort
40:53
Speaker 1: of undoes the entire premise here, which is, well, what
40:56
Speaker 1: they're planning is they're going to kick off a pandemic
41:00
Speaker 1: and they're going to use these detention centers. That's how
41:03
Speaker 1: they're going to justify rounding people up and putting them
41:06
Speaker 1: in these detention centers. And for one, my question is
41:09
Speaker 1: what would what good would that do? Well, pandemic.
41:12
Speaker 2: First of all, here's my this this part was also
41:17
Speaker 2: extremely infuriating. You know, their big evidence for this is
41:22
Speaker 2: a FEMA document that outlines how they would respond to
41:28
Speaker 2: a pandemic, and that's good to do it right. And
41:34
Speaker 2: as far as what they would need, you know, large
41:37
Speaker 2: you know, makeshift facilities for or camps housing people who
41:42
Speaker 2: they are studying, you know, who have the illness or
41:46
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, quarantining people, having facility lab
41:51
Speaker 2: facilities out and able to study things like. There are
41:54
Speaker 2: many ways that you would need these kinds of facilities.
41:59
Speaker 1: Yeah. And and one of the ways this episode hasn't
42:01
Speaker 1: aged well in that regard is we are in the
42:04
Speaker 1: middle of a pandemic that has taken I think we're
42:08
Speaker 1: up to six hundred thousand plus lives in the United States.
42:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of lost track after half a million.
42:14
Speaker 1: And it doesn't feel like we're propelling toward martial law
42:18
Speaker 1: right now. I guess if you're on the right and
42:20
Speaker 1: you see having to wear a mask as the ultimate
42:23
Speaker 1: and government oppression, that's sure.
42:25
Speaker 2: And that is the whole thing about Alex Jones and
42:29
Speaker 2: right wing conspiracies is the smallest, most innocent inconvenience is
42:34
Speaker 2: a massive conspiracy to steal their freedom. But also we
42:38
Speaker 2: did almost see martial law, but it was in response
42:42
Speaker 2: to left wing protests against police brutality throughout the country
42:48
Speaker 2: last year that inspired martial law, and you know, curfuse
42:53
Speaker 2: and shit to curb people protesting the illegal murder of
42:59
Speaker 2: civilian by of your government. Basically, yeah, which is exactly
43:04
Speaker 2: what they're worried about in this but they that's not
43:07
Speaker 2: a thing that they care about. And in fact, Alex
43:09
Speaker 2: Jones is on the record is being totally in favor
43:12
Speaker 2: of every resistance to left wing protests.
43:17
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, Yeah, it's it's the kind of thing that,
43:21
Speaker 1: depending on what side you're on, if what they're describing
43:24
Speaker 1: actually happens, you're gonna be like ha haaaa. Finally, like,
43:28
Speaker 1: if they round up right wingers and like the type
43:32
Speaker 1: of people who are prone to storm in the capitol,
43:35
Speaker 1: a lot of people on the left are going to
43:36
Speaker 1: be like, good, ye, what they should do.
43:39
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because I don't disagree with you. But
43:44
Speaker 2: also there is an imbalance in the amount of violence perpetrated.
43:51
Speaker 2: You know, that's not a perfectly balanced scale left and
43:55
Speaker 2: right when it comes to who deserves to be punished,
43:59
Speaker 2: you know, especially because the left is fighting for good
44:03
Speaker 2: things and the right is a bunch of whiny babies.
44:07
Speaker 2: But like, you know, I don't want the government necessarily
44:12
Speaker 2: rounding up anybody. I think that's bad and would lead
44:17
Speaker 2: to me dying probably, and so I don't like that.
44:21
Speaker 2: But like, you know, some people just deserve to be
44:26
Speaker 2: uh punished, not jail, because jail sucks, but like if
44:30
Speaker 2: you're a violent, fucking right wing militant, then you know,
44:37
Speaker 2: you should have some stuff come in your way. Yeah. Anyways,
44:40
Speaker 2: so where were we in the episode.
44:44
Speaker 1: Well, now Jesse's it's time to storm Conress.
44:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's storming the Capitol.
44:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to storm the Capitol and kick some
44:51
Speaker 1: congressional aid ass. Uh. First person he tries is Jim
44:55
Speaker 1: Garlock of Pennsylvania. But both times Jim hears that Jesse
45:00
Speaker 1: wants to talk about FEMA concentration camps and is like, no,
45:03
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take off.
45:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no way that this comes out good for me.
45:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is smoking gun proof that FEMA concentration camps
45:10
Speaker 1: exist right.
45:11
Speaker 2: Exactly, and not smoking gun proof that Jesse Ventura is
45:15
Speaker 2: like poison to someone's public image.
45:18
Speaker 1: But then the co sponsor of the bill, Steve Cohen,
45:22
Speaker 1: is fine talking to Jesse, and I'm like, you should
45:24
Speaker 1: have just started there. That seems like a better get
45:26
Speaker 1: in terms of an interview regarding this bill. What if
45:29
Speaker 1: we think about Steve Cohen, I mean, I it seemed
45:33
Speaker 1: like he was being a little shady, but again, it's
45:36
Speaker 1: very possible that it's because well, I don't want people
45:38
Speaker 1: to know we're gonna start rounding up immigrants.
45:40
Speaker 2: Well, yes, that is the thing. Again, this is my
45:44
Speaker 2: whole thesis on this episode is everything that they talk
45:47
Speaker 2: about is actually about immigrants, and everybody that they talk
45:51
Speaker 2: to who's involved with this thing is kind of relieved
45:55
Speaker 2: that they're not that they are just talking about the
45:58
Speaker 2: fake stuff. And when it, yeah, like I don't like,
46:02
Speaker 2: I did not get a good vibe off of Steve Cohen,
46:05
Speaker 2: But I also got like, I don't disbelieve him when
46:11
Speaker 2: he says the FEMA camps in the bill don't exist,
46:14
Speaker 2: and I and I and I believe his confusion over
46:18
Speaker 2: what bill Jesse was talking about is valid because literally
46:22
Speaker 2: all Jesse says is like, do you agree with what
46:26
Speaker 2: said in the bill? I don't know I need to
46:29
Speaker 2: know what you think about the bill.
46:31
Speaker 1: He ever specifies, He doesn't specify the bill. And then
46:35
Speaker 1: he also talks about a real facility that he went
46:38
Speaker 1: to vessit had the name of and he's just got
46:41
Speaker 1: this innate ability to describe something that's real but make
46:45
Speaker 1: it sound like the most insane bullshit you've ever heard. Yes,
46:49
Speaker 1: and the way he describes the detention center they saw,
46:53
Speaker 1: it's insane and like it makes no sense. It like,
46:56
Speaker 1: just give him the name. I say, here's the name
46:59
Speaker 1: of the place we went. Here's the bill exactly.
47:01
Speaker 2: He never says the name. That's the thing. And so
47:04
Speaker 2: the whole time that Jesse is like trying to grill
47:07
Speaker 2: him on this facility that he visited, which again is
47:11
Speaker 2: not a facility that was enacted by this bill, because
47:17
Speaker 2: nothing this bill is like brand new in this when
47:20
Speaker 2: this thing started, when this episode aired, all he says
47:25
Speaker 2: is we went to a facility in Texas and they
47:28
Speaker 2: had it was a residential facility and it was surrounded
47:32
Speaker 2: by barbed wire. And the guy is like, I don't
47:34
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about this this this doesn't I
47:38
Speaker 2: don't know this facility because you haven't given me any
47:41
Speaker 2: information other than a basic description of its premises. It's
47:47
Speaker 2: just really strange.
47:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, he makes it sound like they found some unmarked
47:52
Speaker 1: building in the middle of the desert. Exactly, Dude, it's
47:55
Speaker 1: got I googled it, it's got an address, it's got
47:57
Speaker 1: a website. You can fucking email them.
47:59
Speaker 2: But but you know, I really do feel like it's
48:02
Speaker 2: either a Jesse could not remember the name of the facility,
48:07
Speaker 2: which seems like it could be likely.
48:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, t don Huddo Residential Center. I was gonna say
48:14
Speaker 1: brain at all.
48:15
Speaker 2: I did not say it because I could not remember
48:18
Speaker 2: the name of it. But also, uh, you know, he
48:22
Speaker 2: might just have known that that would kind of backfire
48:25
Speaker 2: on him if he actually specifically named the building. But
48:29
Speaker 2: not naming it also backfired because it made him look
48:32
Speaker 2: like a fucking idiot.
48:33
Speaker 1: Yeah. I would have liked if he named it, because
48:35
Speaker 1: then Steve Cohen might have been like, oh, you're talking
48:38
Speaker 1: about the immigrant place, huh yeah, and then just shuts
48:41
Speaker 1: down the inner exactly.
48:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, you're talking. Oh you mean the ice facility.
48:45
Speaker 2: I mean, uh, but like, yeah, and I understand it.
48:49
Speaker 2: Steve Cohen is the guy who basically pushed for this
48:52
Speaker 2: episode to be pulled after it aired. It only aired once,
48:57
Speaker 2: and uh, I get it, because Jesse is again spreading
49:03
Speaker 2: a lot of dangerous misinformation that is inaccurate as a
49:09
Speaker 2: smoke screen for the real thing that is actually happening.
49:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's misdirecting people.
49:15
Speaker 2: And I don't think Jesse's doing it on purpose, because
49:18
Speaker 2: again I think, Jesse, you can just get Jesse Ventura
49:21
Speaker 2: to say whatever you want with very little provocation. I
49:26
Speaker 2: think it'd be easy.
49:27
Speaker 1: I do like that. In response to the criticism behind
49:31
Speaker 1: this misty schedule, a Turner spokesperson Yeah described conspiracy theory
49:38
Speaker 1: as quote, an entertainment program that appears on an entertainment network.
49:43
Speaker 2: Yeah.
49:44
Speaker 1: And I don't know if I buy that excuse, because
49:48
Speaker 1: you can't go all right, this company yan Guard they're
49:52
Speaker 1: making coffins that they're selling to Halliburt. Right, that is
49:55
Speaker 1: a pretty damaging accusation. Yeah, that's up there with my
50:00
Speaker 1: being like, hey, Dominion were stealing our democracy.
50:03
Speaker 2: Well and like and implying that, I mean, just all
50:07
Speaker 2: of the Holocaust stuff is so tasteless, Like I'm not
50:10
Speaker 2: saying that there are no Holocaust comparisons to be made
50:14
Speaker 2: with our modern immigration system. But he's not talking about
50:19
Speaker 2: our immigration system. He's talking about this fantasy of Americans
50:26
Speaker 2: being rounded up, like and it's not like it's ever happened,
50:29
Speaker 2: but it's happened very specifically, and you know, he's just
50:32
Speaker 2: making these very broadsided, you know, shots at things.
50:37
Speaker 1: And when we talk about the possibility of a holocaust
50:41
Speaker 1: involving immigrants, the whole angle of this show is, well,
50:45
Speaker 1: they're spying on the people who are most likely to
50:49
Speaker 1: lead to a holocaust of immigrants, right, because that's like,
50:53
Speaker 1: that's that's Trump supporters, that's the right right now. Exactly,
50:57
Speaker 1: if anything like that is going to happen, it's gonna
51:00
Speaker 1: come from that side.
51:02
Speaker 2: I know it's gonna come from Alex Jones.
51:05
Speaker 1: I know some segment of the white population would love
51:09
Speaker 1: to believe that it's white people who are gonna be genocided.
51:12
Speaker 1: But it's like, man, what what when do you think
51:15
Speaker 1: that switch happened in the American government?
51:17
Speaker 2: Right?
51:18
Speaker 1: Like, get the fuck.
51:18
Speaker 2: Out exactly, Ron, Well, yeah, and of course Alex Jones
51:22
Speaker 2: is also a proponent of the white genocide theory.
51:26
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, if this turned into a immigrant genocide, those
51:31
Speaker 1: motherfuckers wouldn't care. They know, Yes, finally we're making America
51:34
Speaker 1: America again.
51:35
Speaker 2: Right. This is the whole thing. This is what it
51:37
Speaker 2: was so fucking infuriating about this episode is they are
51:43
Speaker 2: talking about like especially that Ice facility. Part was just
51:48
Speaker 2: driving me baddy because they were give those people were
51:52
Speaker 2: giving them the information. They were not talking about things.
51:56
Speaker 2: They were like, no comment, no comment, no comment. But
51:58
Speaker 2: that lady said go talk talk to fucking Ice, and
52:01
Speaker 2: Jesse event Sura, the guy who wanted to storm Plumb
52:04
Speaker 2: Island didn't go and fucking storm the local Ice headquarters.
52:09
Speaker 1: Nope.
52:10
Speaker 2: That that represents a massive ideological blind spot on his
52:15
Speaker 2: part and honestly makes me not want to smoke weed
52:17
Speaker 2: with him anymore.
52:18
Speaker 1: The same. Yeah, Like he doesn't really even question it
52:21
Speaker 1: when she says go talk to Ice. No, he's it's
52:24
Speaker 1: it's more like, well, okay, well if it's ice, then
52:27
Speaker 1: it's hot.
52:28
Speaker 2: And Ice was not as well known as of a
52:32
Speaker 2: organization than even you know, it's a you know, so
52:35
Speaker 2: many people don't realize how fucking new Ice is. It
52:40
Speaker 2: was created after nine to eleven, Like, it's not an
52:44
Speaker 2: institution of our of our country, you know that is
52:48
Speaker 2: vital to its operation. We can get rid of it
52:51
Speaker 2: today and nothing about our lives would change. Fuck Ice,
52:54
Speaker 2: I hate them.
52:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Ice can go away. So that's our episode.
52:58
Speaker 1: That's that's the app episode of Conspiracy the Show. That
53:02
Speaker 1: of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura. All episodes of Conspiracy
53:06
Speaker 1: the Show are too hot for TV. And that's why
53:09
Speaker 1: me and Olivia aren't on TV with this exactly.
53:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's just hot enough for a podcast.
53:15
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but this episode of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse
53:19
Speaker 1: Ventura too hot for TV. Nevertheless, we will link to
53:23
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53:39
Speaker 2: I don't know how they get away with it.
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53:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been around forever, and I like they've never
53:52
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53:55
Speaker 1: Very weird. Vimeo too. Vimeo ever happens to Vimeo.
54:00
Speaker 2: Neo has gotten more restricted, whereas daily Motion has not. Yeah, anyway,
54:05
Speaker 2: I just downloaded a movie off of Daily Motion. It's good,
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54:09
Speaker 1: Anyway, So on the next episode, we're going to backtrack
54:13
Speaker 1: a little and cover episode three of this highly controversial season. Yeah,
54:18
Speaker 1: of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Venture. It's the Wall Street
54:22
Speaker 1: episode and this is okay, you're implying Wall Streets getting
54:26
Speaker 1: up to something shady.
54:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got a basically exact reverse proportionate amount of
54:36
Speaker 2: racist material within it. It's like it's whereas this one
54:41
Speaker 2: was like mostly cover up for a racist smoke screen,
54:46
Speaker 2: this one, the Wall Street one, is mostly real shit
54:49
Speaker 2: with just a little bit of bad stuff sprinkled throughout.
54:53
Speaker 1: Very very minor. So do we have anything to plug
54:56
Speaker 1: before we get out of here?
54:58
Speaker 2: Uh? You can find me on Twitter, their hidar and
55:02
Speaker 2: other than that, you know, just kind of leave me alone.
55:06
Speaker 1: You can follow this show on Instagram. I'm finally going
55:10
Speaker 1: to start using that, I guess at Conspira Pops. So
55:15
Speaker 1: do that, and you can look at pictures associated with
55:18
Speaker 1: this podcast and things are the like, and uh, I
55:21
Speaker 1: think that's it.
55:22
Speaker 2: Yeah.
55:22
Speaker 1: Should we get out of here? Yeah, Olivia say goodbye bye,
55:26
Speaker 1: goodbye everybody we love here