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David Kaplan talks Cubs & Bears, Chiefs talk with Nick Athan & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Our number 2 Miller and Condon welcome back.
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  He's back with us. Hello, Capper.
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  Trenton Ken, how are you? What's up boys, How we doing?
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  OK, OK. And obviously the Cubs front and
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  center with this conversation last night notwithstanding,
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  Twins had a really good 8th inning.
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  Cubs had a chance. I thought the top half of the
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  8th inning to maybe, you know, even the score, get close, make
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  it a one run game was 2. Nothing at the time, but that
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  didn't turn out that way. But nonetheless, cap, I keep
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  going back to something you said to me last week when you joined
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  us and we were talking about, you were talking about additions
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  to the roster. And you got to a point after,
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  you know, the the starting pitching, the back of the
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  bullpen type of thing. And he said, oh, and I need
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  another outfielder. And I'm wondering if Mark
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  Tauchman might be that guy. And that got to, for whatever
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  reason, it stuck with me. And I think you're spot on.
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  A guy like that, and I've watched him subsequent to that
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  conversation, saw him play, hit a home run the other day, maybe
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  against the Blue Jays. Regardless, I think more and
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  more cap that yeah down the list of needs might be that extra
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  outfielder because you never know.
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  Yeah, Mike Tauchman, you know, accomplished veteran for
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  Southfielder. Are you going to win a World
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  Series because he's playing every day for you?
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  No, but he's a great dude. He's got a little pop in his
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  bad. He can take the ball the
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  ballpark. He can make the routine and the
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  spectacular. If you think back to last
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  season, Alec Burleson hit one to win the game for the Cardinals,
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  and Mike Tauchman scaled the center field wallet Busch
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  Stadium and pulled it back on the last, literally the last out
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  of the game on a Friday night, leaving Busch Stadium stunned
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  and Cub fans like me delirious with joy.
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  He's a solid player. He doesn't make crazy money.
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  And so, yeah, I like who's my backup outfielder?
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  Kyle Tucker can't go one day, OK, we put Suzuki out there.
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  Who's my DH? Justin Turner, he plays a key
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  role. He's a leader and he's OK.
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  He's 40 years old. He is what he is.
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  You give me Mike Tauchman and I go.
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  Hey, Mike, I need you to play right field today.
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  OK, I got you. Hey, Mike, I need Ian Haps out.
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  I need you to play left. Hey, PCA is getting a day.
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  Can you play center that way? I've got 4 real quality
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  outfielders plus Suzuki, who's better as ADH and is having his
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  best year as a pro. So yeah, absolutely.
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  That's why I said to you last week I would make a trade with
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  the White Sox as fast as I could.
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  Mike Tauchman and Adrian Hauser and let's come together.
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  I'll give you, you know, I'm not giving you a top 100 player.
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  I'll give you a top 200 player and then a lottery ticket out of
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  Class A or rookie ball and I'll take all the money.
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  There's not a lot of it left. I mean, between the two, I think
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  it's 3 1/2 four million. So in baseball terms that's
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  nothing. I would absolutely do that.
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  I had another name for you that I was going to throw out to you
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  and did some research. My brother said look at this
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  guy, OK, I ran his numbers this morning.
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  He's 41 years old. He's on a one year deal.
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  So you've got no commitment going forward.
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  He has pitched 80 innings in playoff baseball.
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  Charlie Morton from the now with Baltimore.
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  Yeah. And if you go, he had a terrible
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  April. Go back and look at his numbers.
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  May 4th through today. His ERA is under 3 and he's been
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  really good. Atlanta last year.
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  Is that where he was recently? Yeah, yeah.
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  Interesting 1 SO. And I'm not saying he's starting
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  Game 2 for me. No, no, no.
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  We make it. I'm saying he's my depth guy.
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  And then I wait till the deadline on the 31st and I go,
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  all right, who's falling out of it?
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  You trade me. Zach Gallon, Merrill Kelly, Seth
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  Lugo, whoever it is. That shot brought up a month
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  ago, you know, would they be looking possibly at an upgrade
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  at third base? He came back, defense has been
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  outstanding. He's not hitting, he's hitting
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  two O 4 for a playoff team that has aspirations of being more
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  than that. You need to be better at third
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  now. Jose Ramirez is the apple of
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  everybody's eye. The Guardians have not said that
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  they're willing to trade him team friendly contract for three
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  more years after this. He's still only 32 years old and
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  the dude still can mash a package.
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  A high level package including Matt Shaw.
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  Couple of high end prospects. Casey.
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  Jose Ramirez, does that do something that gets you excited?
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  Oh God I would kill to have Jose Ramirez but he's got a full no
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  trade. He took less money to stay there
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  than sign as a free agent somewhere for stupid money.
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  He did mean Jose Ramirez would be amazing.
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  Give me him. Give me Class A.
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  Now I've got class. A and Polensky at the back of my
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  pen. You're set.
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  I'm set. And if you want to, you know,
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  throw a starter in there and make a bigger deal, Yeah.
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  I mean, there's a lot to be had, but he's got a full no trade and
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  he took less money to sign there then go to a free agency where
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  he would have got paid stupid money.
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  So I don't think he's available. I don't.
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  I just don't say I think Cleveland's going the wrong way.
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  They may be, you know, kind of in purgatory for a while.
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  And there's speculation that Ramirez, the place that he would
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  go, is only the Yankees. Is that a there's?
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  Yeah, that it's message boards and stuff, but yeah, that's out.
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  There. So is there Eugenio Suarez cap
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  from the Diamondbacks? Is he the third baseman?
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  Eugenio Suarez is an All Star. He's not the best in terms of
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  putting the ball in play. You're going to get a lot of
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  strikeouts with him. He could come to the Cubs and
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  hit, you know, 15 home runs in a month and you go, oh, my God,
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  what a great trade. And there's also a reason why
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  that dude's been in Cincinnati and Seattle and Arizona.
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  But as a bat for the stretch, yeah, I would trade for him in a
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  second. He's got no contract beyond this
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  year. You could.
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  Here was how I would do it. I would trade for EU he Neo
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  Suarez if I could, and then I would move Matt Shaw into the
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  Vidal, Bruja, John Birdie role. And so he's still in the big
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  leagues. I still have him for defense in
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  the 8th, 9th. If I need him, he could play so
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  I don't have to play Suarez every day.
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  He's still in the big leagues learning.
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  And then I release one of the other two guys.
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  That's what I would do if I could do it.
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  When will they make a move Cap? Don't you think they isn't now
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  the time me I get at the end of the trade deadline.
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  You might be a bargain basement, maybe, perhaps somebody you
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  don't have to, you know, give up as much for when it gets into
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  the 11th hour. But shouldn't they be doing
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  something now? Yeah, they absolutely should.
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  But here's the problem with that.
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  Look at the standings. And I was talking to a former GM
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  the other day for quite a while, who's always been a good friend.
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  I called him up and I said I got to get my Cubs moving here.
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  He said, brother, here's the story no one's talking about.
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  He said pull up the wild card standings.
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  He said we have a labor stoppage probably coming after next
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  season. So these teams want to sell as
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  many tickets as they can to bankroll as much money.
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  Sure, it may not matter to the Yankees or it may not matter to
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  the Dodgers, but Tampa or Kansas City and start going through the
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  teams and go hold on a second like I want.
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  Are all this Chapman from the Red Sox?
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  Well, there as I looked yesterday, I didn't look this
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  morning. They're 2 1/2 out of the wild
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  card. So why would they trade their
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  clothes? OK, Kansas City is, I want to
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  say, 4/4 and 1/2 back. They're not ready to wave the
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  white flag. Arizona is now 5, I believe.
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  They might be getting close, but we've got three weeks.
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  So in three weeks it may change, like I want Nathan Ivaldi if
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  he's healthy, but guess what? The Texas Rangers have a three
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  time World Series winning manager.
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  He's there to win. He's not there to rebuild.
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  And so are they trading me, Nathan Ivaldi?
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  You can forget Jacob Degromi has a full no trading, has
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  95,000,000 left on his deal. Are they trading Adelis Garcia
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  to somebody? I don't think so.
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  But in three weeks, what if they do what the Cleveland Guardians
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  just did? They lose 10 in a row.
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  Like, I think the Guardians are going to sell.
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  They're up the track. Are the Braves going to sell?
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  Because if you look at they should, they're 12 under 500.
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  And if you look at the Atlanta Braves, the Atlanta Braves
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  believe, all right, it's an aberration.
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  We had injuries. Next year will be better.
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  So they may not be willing to sell anyway.
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  And the best trade ship that they had Chris Sales.
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  Chris Sales out till the end of August.
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  So you can't give up a big package for him.
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  Hoping that'll be healthy. If he is, that'd be great, but
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  there's no August trade deadline anymore.
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  David Kaplan joining us cap There have been 34 cases in MLB
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  history. A player entering the All Star
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  break with 25 homers, 75 RBI, 20 double s.
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  One of them, Hank Greenberg back in 1935, didn't make the All
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  Star game. The second, say, a Suzuki this
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  season. What was your take away from
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  that? There's snubs every year.
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  You got to have a player from every team.
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  I get all that. But boy, it just it's very
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  difficult to wrap your mind around this one.
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  Yeah, I thought he got screwed, but to the people that are
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  saying, oh, hold on a second, he didn't get screwed.
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  He's a really good player. And in the American League he
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  would go like if you look at show, hey, OK, Show, his numbers
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  are better. They just are.
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  OK Kyle Schwarber is the other DH you could take.
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  Total hits goes Suzuki, RBI goes Suzuki.
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  But if you want to be like one of the stack nerds, you go
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  waited. Runs created plus slight
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  advantage to Schwarber. OPS slight advantage to
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  Schwarber. So it's close.
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  So I understand it. He got caught in a numbers game.
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  I want to ask you about the two pitches from last night,
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  Obviously Porter Hodge being one of the other one in Menaga who
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  only gave up a couple of runs. But cap, they hit the ball hard.
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  There were a lot of, I mean, I Ian Hap was off his feet
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  throughout the night, climbing the wall out and left.
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  There's some really good catches.
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  The Cubs got really good outfielders, but I don't recall
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  in Menaga being hit as hard as he was last night.
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  An anomaly, just a bad start. Put it behind him and then
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  Porter Hodge. Your thoughts on those two?
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  He did go 6th innings and give up two runs and nothing in the
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  2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th. So I can't call it a bad start
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  when you go 6th innings to hit two runs mean he's coming back
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  from a hamstring, Craig Counsel said after the game.
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  Look, he's not all the way back yet.
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  He will be, but when you can go 6 innings and you tell me you
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  don't have your best yet and you gave up two runs, your team let
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  you down. They didn't come up with a big
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  hit and a big spot. They had opportunities at 1st
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  and 3rd. Michael Bush hit a rocket rocket
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  off the right field wall and it bounced right back to the
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  outfielders of Tucker went first to third.
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  He should have scored on it, but he couldn't because of the way
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  it was played. And then, of course, everybody's
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  favorite awful hitter. Hansby Swanson, Hansby.
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  Swanson makes it out. So yeah, you had opportunities,
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  man. You just didn't get a big hit in
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  a big spot. To the Bears and the summer
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  continues as we wait and wait and wait.
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  Kevin Fishbane, who I know you know from over at The Athletic,
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  really enjoy his writing. He had an interesting question.
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  Did they finally get it right with Ben Johnson and Caleb
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  Williams? Where is your confidence that
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  the Bears, for the first time in decades, got it right, both with
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  the head coach and the quarterback?
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  Yeah, I believe they did. Like, you know, it's funny to
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  me, everybody says I don't know about this.
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  Caleb Williams, he had a bust or a rookie year.
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  Go look at his numbers. Drew for almost 3600 yards.
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  He had one of the best TD interception ratios.
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  Now, did he take too many sacks, 100% Were a lot of those on him
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  for holding the ball? Again, 100%.
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  However, I think he was playing for an incompetent head coach
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  and he went through three offensive coordinators.
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  It was a train wreck around there and so it is what it is.
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  Ben Johnson demanded they fix the online.
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  Ryan Poles delivered. Ben Johnson said.
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  Hey man, I'm it's attention to detail around here.
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  No nonsense anymore. Whatever went on last year, I
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  wasn't here. It's not going to happen
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  anymore. And so I'm excited to see what
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  this partnership looks like. I wish I could buy stock.
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  I don't play fantasy football, but Roma Dunsday seems to me
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  like a guy we're about to explode, Cap.
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  How about that? Yeah, I completely agree.
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  Tommy Waddle was on with us today on ESPN 1000 and he said
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  he thinks Rome is going to end the season as the Bears top
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  receiver. Yeah, I could buy it.
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  I could buy that. What else Cap?
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  What's the concern? I.
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  Mean they have enough of a pass rush.
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  I'm not sure they do. The Darius Smith was reportedly
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  in town over the weekend. He's not a star anymore, but he
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  had eight stacks last year. He's a professional pass rusher.
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  With Detroit, where was he? He was in No, I think he was in
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  Detroit because he was in Green Bay before that.
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  Yeah, yeah. So would I like to see them
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  trade for Trey Hendrickson or TJ Watt?
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  Sure. But I don't think those guys are
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  getting moved. To the draft, Back to the draft.
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  A guy that was drafted the fourth round, I didn't realize
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  Ruben Hippolite who they get the fourth round, he wasn't invited
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  to the combine. I saw a quote from Ryan Poles
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  where he was excited that they're not even going to have a
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  highlight. These, I don't know, swinging
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  for the fence is kind of they haven't worked very well for
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  Ryan Poles and for 1/4 rounder, you still find some dudes there.
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  What's the early returns of the guy that wasn't even invited to
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  the combine and Ruben Hippolite? They're actually thinking he
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  might start. Wow, That's how good he's
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  looked. Wow, Yeah, yeah.
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  They really, really like this kid.
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  So again, they haven't had pads on.
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  They have had shorts and helmets on and T-shirts.
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  We're going to find out. But they love what they've seen
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  so far. Last thing, cap back to the
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  Cubs. How concerned are you about the
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  way the Brewers are playing at this point?
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  I think it's going to be a dogfight.
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  You know, they got great starting pitching.
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  Freddy Peralta, Jacob Mesorowski, These are really,
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  really good pitchers. Do they, do they have enough?
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  I don't know. I mean, are they going to sweep
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  the Dodgers today? I if I had to make a pick, I'd
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  tell you the Dodgers with glass now coming back today, I think
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  the Dodgers will win that game. But we'll see.
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  I hope they do. They got slowed down at some
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  point. Yeah, Miss Roski's unbelievable
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  what he did yesterday. Really good.
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  Oh, boy. I'll say good stuff, Cap.
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  Anything else? Trent Capra.
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  Thank you, buddy. We'll talk to you in seven days.
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  Have a great week. David Kaplan, thank you.
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  Forward to it, have a great day. Get him straight.
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  Yeah, absolutely. David Kezi playing golf?
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  Yes, for him, Cappy joins us each and every Wednesday, and if
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  you don't get him Wednesday, we get him Thursdays, which will
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  probably be the case when we're in Vegas.
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  That's right. But that's OK.
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  Because I'll be running around media days tracking down,
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  talking to Kirk and talking to. Thursday, yeah.
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  Herkett Enteringer. You know, can I, can I, I've
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  said this before, they're, they're missing out here,
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  Gronowski. And I know that they it's not
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  fair. It's you're right, It's the
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  players council and here's my here's what I I can I know
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  what's going to happen because we've built in the many days.
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  You know who's going to talk to the players that are there the
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  meet the Iowa media because they're going to be by
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  themselves where the national media who on I was rostered to
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  the national media want. To talk.
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  To and he's not going to be there.
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  This is media days. This is for the media, right?
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  This is where you get your stories that you file away and
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  use them are your quotes at some point during the season.
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  And no offense to the players that are going, no offense,
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  nobody wants to talk to them except the Iowa media will feel
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  sorry because they're in the corner and every other tables
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  got surrounded by media. And then there's the Iowa guys,
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  like the the Maytag salesperson guy.
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  Nobody to talk to, waiting for that phone to ring.
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  Bring Gronowski. That's who they want.
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  Big 10 Media Days Only eight of the 18 teams are bringing
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  quarterback now. There's only three that are
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  allowed to go from each team. The Big 12 allows up to what, 6
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  or 7? Way more this year than I think
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  ever. I how about this, can we put in
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  this cap? Because regardless, everybody
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  wants to talk to the quarterback.
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  It doesn't matter if it's a quarterback at Northwestern,
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  right or Oklahoma State. 'S the most important position
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  in sports. So how about we put this rule in
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  I'll make the phone call. I'm I'm sure I got the
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  commissioner on speed dial is you bring your three and your
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  quarterback. Bang. 8 quarterback if presume
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  starter, you know, there's always open competition come
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  August, all those things, 3 invitees and the quarterback
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  again. Let's live in the world of
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  common sense. That's just doesn't that make
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  common sense for everybody, fans and media alike?
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  That's who you want to hear from.
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  I'm on your page and just 'cause I knew it wasn't going to happen
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  when you first brought it up. I can write, OK, Ken, but let's
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  let's put in the rule you're bringing your quarterback every
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  single team bring your quarterback and then three other
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  guys, right, we'll simplify it reward.
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  Them yes, and that's what they do.
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  They you know, you've been good. You've been good foot soldier.
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  You showed up in the offseason program, busted your ass in the
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  weight room. You're a good guy, good player,
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  quality player, but you're the left guard.
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  Two years ago came McNamara. Think of the onslaught of
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  regional, national, medium. What a better?
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  What are you doing right? No, didn't go.
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  Didn't go, didn't go and from Kirk and the players understand
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  it. Let's make it simple, right,
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  because there's so many transfer cult, because I'm sure I was not
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  the only program that also does it that way where it's the
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  players council, there's a vote or there's people come together
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  to make the decision of who to bring.
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  Well, we're going to make this easy because this one year fly
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  by night quarterback that's coming in.
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  He doesn't know the team yet. Still, he's going.
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  Right, because he's going to be the one that feels the
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  questions. All right, we'll take a break
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  and I'll call Al Petiti. We'll get that done.
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  We'll take the time out. Nick Athan will join us next.
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  Speaking of quarterbacks, we're going to talk about one that is
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  totally out of shape. I saw that picture.
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  What did you think? I I thought, man, I wish I
• 19:47
  looked like that. And then his his trainer comes
• 19:51
  to his defense. Who?
• 19:52
  What's the guy? The KC media guy.
• 19:54
  That's Keatsman. Kevin, something like that.
• 19:58
  I bet you couldn't do these things Well, I'm a radio talk
• 20:00
  show who's not a quarterback. But yeah, that's getting some
• 20:05
  miles. The picture of Patrick Mahomes
• 20:07
  enjoying his last couple of weeks this summer.
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  Oh boy, he'll. Be ready to go you.
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• 22:02
  Hi. How are you good?
• 22:06
  Good to talk to you. What a summer story like this
• 22:09
  is. It really is good, right?
• 22:11
  So obviously that's got to be a massive talker in Kansas City
• 22:14
  with with one of the big name media hosts in in Kansas City
• 22:20
  proclaiming him out of shape. But just based off a picture in
• 22:24
  his in his offseason, like every single NFL player gets, we were
• 22:28
  talking about Patrick Mahomes. But is there any concern, Nick?
• 22:31
  I certainly have had some fun with it.
• 22:33
  No, I mean, I think everybody's you got to consider the source.
• 22:36
  This guy's a albatross on sports media in Kansas City.
• 22:40
  He always has been. He's had a whole long history of
• 22:43
  thing outlandish and stupid things.
• 22:45
  And this is probably. Top.
• 22:46
  Shelf of all you know, all the stupid things that KK and done.
• 22:52
  I won't even I won't even worthy mentioning his name.
• 22:56
  Listen, you know when there's two things you don't do in the
• 23:01
  media, You don't go after head coach Andy Reid, which is why he
• 23:03
  got fired at his radio gig. Really.
• 23:06
  Never cheat up. Yeah, you don't go after Pastor
• 23:08
  Mahone. So I mean, listen, everybody
• 23:12
  makes a little fun and I didn't listen to all the content the
• 23:16
  the remarks. Obviously we just got the the
• 23:19
  cut up stuff. And I'm sure he said more maybe
• 23:22
  to clarify his position a little bit, but it doesn't matter.
• 23:24
  Who cares? You know, and bodystroop, you
• 23:27
  know, Pastor Mahomes guru when it comes to working him out and
• 23:31
  getting him an NFL shape, you know, came to his defense and it
• 23:34
  was pretty got pretty ugly and got very personal.
• 23:37
  And, and listen, I mean, Patrick Mahomes is entering his ninth
• 23:41
  NFL season. Think about that for a second.
• 23:43
  This is his 9th year and he has gone from this 20, 122 year old
• 23:51
  draft pick to being one of the greatest players of all time.
• 23:55
  He has taken a physical beating in the last three seasons that
• 23:59
  not many quarterbacks take. And what has he done?
• 24:01
  He's won two out of three Super Bowls.
• 24:03
  So if he's got a dad body, a man body or he's got a beer gut, I
• 24:08
  could care less. Because if anybody is a fan of
• 24:11
  the history of the NFL, you can look at a lot of quarterbacks
• 24:16
  who had a lot of poundage or weren't very athletic.
• 24:20
  We won championships in Super Bowls.
• 24:22
  So for for this guy to come out and to attack Patrick this way
• 24:27
  just to get clicks, just to increase his podcast, It's just,
• 24:31
  it's all, it's all really. Silly.
• 24:34
  Monday, Mahomes was on with Kay Adams on her show and mentioned
• 24:37
  that he's been talking a lot with Brady now, apparently not
• 24:40
  talking about probably diet, but they've been talking a lot
• 24:43
  during this offseason. And just, I said, you know, he
• 24:45
  doesn't have to do that. It's just been cool to be able
• 24:47
  to do it. You know, when you're tapping
• 24:49
  into Tom Brady, when you're tapping into the people that he
• 24:52
  can do and the way things ended, I think he's going to have a
• 24:57
  tremendous season. I, I really do.
• 24:58
  And, and it's weird coming off a 15 and two year that ends in a
• 25:01
  Super Bowl appearance, a bounce back.
• 25:03
  I think it's a bounce back season for Patrick Mahomes.
• 25:06
  Yeah, I totally agree with you. And I've kind of said the same
• 25:10
  thing and I'll take it a step further.
• 25:12
  I think this is the best potential roster that not only
• 25:16
  Andy Reid has had in his career, but certainly since Pastor
• 25:18
  Mahomes arrived. Offensively, defense, special
• 25:20
  teams, talent, speed, depth, all those things.
• 25:25
  But what I found interesting about his comments talking about
• 25:27
  Tom Brady yesterday was I kind of view it a little differently.
• 25:31
  I think for Patrick, it's like Tom spent 10 years and didn't
• 25:35
  get to the Super Bowl. And I think Patrick obviously
• 25:38
  wants to avoid that. You know, I don't think he wants
• 25:40
  to get, you know, two or three Super Bowl appearances in his
• 25:42
  late 30s or or early 40s like Brady did.
• 25:45
  I think he wants to know what did he learn from that
• 25:48
  experience? And they they are very close.
• 25:50
  I mean, they are very close friends.
• 25:52
  They talk often. It was nice and Patrick to kind
• 25:55
  of, you know, share that, you know, in the interview with Kay
• 25:57
  Adams to to me is one of the best at what she does.
• 26:01
  But you know, I think for for that relationship, you know, he
• 26:04
  has a general fondness for Patrick.
• 26:07
  Tom Brady does and he sees a lot of him in there of himself
• 26:11
  inside, you know, what makes Patrick Mahomes so special.
• 26:15
  So I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that, you know,
• 26:19
  you're looking at it like, listen, what do I need to do to
• 26:23
  avoid this trap or that trap? And how did you handle this?
• 26:26
  And I think that they're happy to, they're happy to do that.
• 26:30
  Like I see the NFC or the NFC, the AFC West for the first time
• 26:35
  in a long time is, is not being a foregone conclusion.
• 26:38
  I mean, you would seem like a free square, right?
• 26:40
  Almost the Chiefs. And then, you know, you go try
• 26:42
  to figure out the other 7 divisions.
• 26:45
  I, I really think that this is going to be a battle this year,
• 26:48
  that it's not a given that the Chiefs are going to win the West
• 26:52
  again. Because I think Denver's better.
• 26:54
  I think the Chargers are better. I think the Raiders are getting
• 26:57
  better. Not yet.
• 26:58
  But I, I don't think it's the, you know, the layup that it's
• 27:02
  been over the last, you know, almost decade.
• 27:05
  Yeah, it'll be, you know, I think what this will.
• 27:07
  Be your. Yeah, there, there are 9.
• 27:10
  I mean, I listen, I'm, you know, you're going to love this.
• 27:13
  I think the Broncos are a really good football team.
• 27:15
  I think that they are well coached.
• 27:18
  And again, I'm saying this from a guy who is not a fan of Sean
• 27:22
  Payton. At all.
• 27:24
  But if you look at the, the, the product on the field, you look
• 27:28
  at their defense, I think their defense is the best defense in
• 27:30
  the NFL And I, I think it's certainly the best defense in
• 27:35
  the division. I think if you look at Bo Nicks,
• 27:39
  I doubt he's going to have a sophomore, you know, slump
• 27:43
  because of all the games he played in college.
• 27:46
  You know, you look at, you know, Jalen, Daniel Stewart,
• 27:49
  Washington, same thing, played a lot of games in college.
• 27:52
  The guys who struggle are the ones that don't play a lot of
• 27:54
  quarterback. You know, we're all said they go
• 27:56
  from three teams, four teams or one team.
• 27:59
  If you have that experience in college, generally you're going
• 28:01
  to have you're not going to have a lot of walls in the NFL.
• 28:05
  So I think, I think the Broncos are are going to battle the
• 28:09
  Chiefs all season long. I think they've got a very
• 28:11
  favorable schedule. I think the Raiders are probably
• 28:16
  2 years from Pete Carroll completely remolding that
• 28:20
  organization. The Chargers, to me, they have
• 28:24
  all the talent they have. The.
• 28:28
  Arguably, in my opinion, one of the best coaches ever in Jim
• 28:32
  Harbaugh. I love him.
• 28:33
  I want him to be the head coach of the Chiefs someday when Andy
• 28:36
  Reid retires. I mean, that's how much I love
• 28:37
  this guy. The problem is we don't know
• 28:41
  what Justin Herbert really is. We know he's a great regular
• 28:44
  season quarterback. We know he's can throw miles and
• 28:47
  miles and touchdowns, but we've never seen that December,
• 28:50
  January, potentially February kind of game that you need out
• 28:54
  of him. That's why I think the Broncos
• 28:57
  are ahead because I think they have an overall better team
• 28:59
  concept. I think they have less question.
• 29:01
  I still think the Chargers have a lot of questions to figure
• 29:04
  out, and I think their quarterback is primary #1.
• 29:07
  Nick, I have a question for you about a guy coming in.
• 29:10
  Jalen Royals speedster led the FBS over the last two years and
• 29:15
  50 plus yard receptions. The dude can fly, but it's a
• 29:18
  wide receiver group that has Xavier Worthy, Rashi Rice,
• 29:22
  Hollywood Brown, Juju Smith, Shuster, Sky Moore, Justin Ross
• 29:26
  still around. What kind of role is there for a
• 29:30
  guy like Jay and Rolls Royals? Just trying to figure it out as
• 29:33
  a rookie. Well, I'll throw in Taekwon
• 29:35
  Thornton, who has been wiped out, and I'll talk Elijah
• 29:39
  Badger, the undrafted free agent.
• 29:41
  They're loaded at the wide receiver position.
• 29:43
  I don't think Scott Moore is going to make the team.
• 29:45
  I don't think Justin Ross is going to make the team.
• 29:48
  But when you look at Jalen Royals, I think we're all
• 29:50
  surprised that he lasted as long as he did.
• 29:53
  And a lot of it had to do with the injury.
• 29:54
  And you don't have the Chiefs for some reason, you know, the
• 29:57
  way they view injuries is a lot different than other teams.
• 30:00
  Clearly, you know, with their first round draft pick, you
• 30:03
  know, and meeting a guy that everybody thought wasn't going
• 30:06
  to be ready till mid season, you know, So I think if you look at
• 30:10
  the way they construct their team, But for me, Royals is he's
• 30:13
  that maybe he's an extra she Rice because the Chiefs are
• 30:17
  going to be in a situation in a couple years where they're going
• 30:19
  to have to decide, do we pay her she Rice or do we pay Xavier
• 30:23
  Worthy? And I don't think Rashid Rice is
• 30:25
  going to give the Chiefs a hometown deal.
• 30:27
  I think Worthy has maybe a little bit better chance.
• 30:30
  But Hollywood Brown's going to be a free agent.
• 30:32
  Gigi Smith, Schuster's probably not going to play.
• 30:34
  They got Nico Remilio, who's their special teams guy.
• 30:37
  You know, he's going to have a tough time finding it.
• 30:39
  This is the best wide receiver room the Chiefs have ever had.
• 30:43
  And I think for a guy like Jalen Royals, who's right now just
• 30:46
  he's #2 on the depth chart, he hasn't played a snap yet.
• 30:49
  So I think if you look at what he can learn from Hollywood,
• 30:52
  Brown Rice, who should be and have acted like the wide
• 30:57
  receiver coach certainly last year in helping Xavier Worthy
• 31:00
  become the player that he was. But I like this kid.
• 31:03
  There's nothing about his game that I don't like.
• 31:06
  He's got he's got yak. He can make tough catches.
• 31:09
  He runs great routes, He's got good hands.
• 31:11
  And if not for the injury, probably would have been
• 31:15
  selected a lot higher into the chief, you know, benefit.
• 31:18
  They get another young wide receiver to go along with a
• 31:21
  really young wide receiver core with Worthy and with Rashi Rice.
• 31:27
  And an out of shake quarterback trying to get him the ball.
• 31:30
  Right. You know, he's, so he's washed
• 31:31
  up. He's going to be washed up
• 31:34
  during NTP season. That's what it's going to be.
• 31:36
  Hey, last thing on a serious note, Chris Jones, I think, how
• 31:40
  many games did he miss at the beginning of the season?
• 31:41
  What? Whatever he missed, he he missed
• 31:43
  a couple in the game. His numbers were down last year,
• 31:46
  Nick, 15 1/2 sacks 2 years ago, then 10 1/2.
• 31:49
  But last year only 5A concern there or just an anomaly there?
• 31:55
  You mean you're going to block him, you're going to double team
• 31:57
  him and take your chances with the rest?
• 32:00
  Yeah, I think that's, I think that's the problem.
• 32:02
  I mean, they've just double and triple teamed in.
• 32:05
  He's moved inside and outside. You know, fortunately, George
• 32:08
  Carloskis has been ascending. Charles and many who is finally
• 32:11
  healthy and that's good. That's an impact.
• 32:13
  You know, Charles and many who is going to be that guy.
• 32:15
  I think he's going to have a really strong season.
• 32:18
  Mike Danah, you know, he'll be healthy this year.
• 32:20
  Was not healthy last year. Felix Anduke Izomo, I think have
• 32:24
  some game in it, some game in him.
• 32:27
  But you know, Aston Gelati, the third round pick is going to be
• 32:32
  really, really good. And I think ultimately he and
• 32:35
  George Karloffis will be the starters for this football team
• 32:38
  and they both are relentless pass rushers and I'm excited
• 32:43
  about this. But for Jones, they can somehow
• 32:48
  get more penetration from a Mike Pennell or Omar Norman lot.
• 32:53
  Then I think that's going to help Chris Jones a lot.
• 32:55
  They also got Jerry Tillery, so they have a much better room now
• 33:00
  to force teams to rotate. And for Chris Jones, you know,
• 33:05
  he's 30 years old. I mean, you know, he's taken a,
• 33:07
  he's taken a beating, but when the chips are down and you need
• 33:10
  to play, it may not be just the stacks numbers, but he's still
• 33:14
  good at penetrating, getting in the quarterback field and the
• 33:16
  vision and he's really strong against the run.
• 33:19
  So I'm not as concerned about the stacks going down.
• 33:23
  I'm more considered. I'm more.
• 33:25
  It's more important to me that the overall team stacks are much
• 33:27
  higher than they were a year ago.
• 33:29
  Chiefsblitz.com, Chiefs blitz.com for our buddy Nick
• 33:32
  Gathen. Nick, thank you, buddy, as
• 33:34
  always, appreciate you coming on having a little fun with us.
• 33:36
  We'll do this. We'll talk down the road, but
• 33:38
  take care. All right.
• 33:40
  Take care guys. Appreciate you.
• 33:41
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• 34:04
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  our show that gets underway at noon.
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  So that's the new lineup. If you missed the first couple
• 34:33
  of days of it and wonder what's going on over here, that is
• 34:36
  exactly what is going on over here.
• 34:38
  What's your baseball schedule, high school baseball like, are
• 34:41
  you? I mean, they're coming down the
• 34:42
  stretch. We are sub state play in fact
• 34:44
  begins on Friday night. I'll be out at Valley as the
• 34:48
  Tigers play host to Des Moines Roosevelt.
• 34:50
  Seems like those two teams get together a lot come sub state
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  time. Have that one on Friday night.
• 34:54
  Now have a quick turn around because we got Nationals for 10
• 34:57
  U softball. It's a busy day for you.
• 35:01
  Have games at 11-2 and five. As long as we're on schedule,
• 35:05
  I'll be able to get to Valley in time from Grimes, so.
• 35:08
  Will you join in progress? If, if necessary, yes, that will
• 35:11
  be the plan. But I'm going to talk to the
• 35:13
  powers that be over there. My buddy Zach Cineram, now the
• 35:16
  new athletic director, taking over for Brad Rose.
• 35:19
  In fact, maybe we should get Rosie in here sometime, talk
• 35:22
  about his two decades. Now he's a storied career.
• 35:25
  At the biggest school in the state of Iowa as the athletic
• 35:29
  director. Lot of good times in football
• 35:30
  and basketball, so we should. I'm, I'm, I'm all for it.
• 35:33
  I think that'd be a good idea. But hopefully get to get my
• 35:35
  equipment set up beforehand. Are you so it's so I can just
• 35:38
  fire it up, hit start, get on the air and away we go for that
• 35:42
  one. Then coming back on Monday of
• 35:44
  next week, we will have the sub state semifinal Tuesday night.
• 35:48
  I will do a girls softball regional final ticket all these.
• 35:52
  Games are on the bull. And all these games will be and
• 35:54
  then Wednesday the four, a sub state final if weather allows.
• 35:59
  And there's the caveat. Then on the weekend, you get on
• 36:02
  an airplane and, well, you get on an airplane when.
• 36:04
  Monday afternoon, yes. And fly to Las Vegas for Big 10
• 36:08
  Media. You get days and then you get
• 36:09
  home. Then I get home.
• 36:11
  Do what? Do the championship game.
• 36:12
  Do the championship game and then it is final vacation.
• 36:17
  I take a lot of vacation because I get a lot of vacation and well
• 36:21
  from September through. April.
• 36:23
  Yeah, not a lot. Of not a whole lot of movement.
• 36:25
  No, that's true. Good son.
• 36:27
  Best time to be on the air September through April.
• 36:31
  I like being on the air right now too though, yeah.
• 36:32
  No, it's fun. I'm with you.
• 36:33
  I love July and August. I truly do.
• 36:35
  The one that not the not that I the spies June I don't.
• 36:39
  It's just that not a ton of content, but we managed to get
• 36:42
  our way through and do every single.
• 36:44
  Year, including the fever looking awful.
• 36:46
  Yeah, so what's going on here? They're going to be by 19.
• 36:48
  I this is an expansion franchise who's opening some eyes, but I
• 36:52
  think the eyes need to be open and and maybe pointing at the
• 36:55
  newly minted Stephanie Whitehead, coach of the Indiana
• 36:59
  Fever. We're going to take this team to
• 37:00
  new heights. I mean, they long for Christie
• 37:03
  sides, for God's sakes. That's.
• 37:06
  That's a narrative that has to be.
• 37:07
  Out there it does. She's been away and I understand
• 37:09
  family. Things happen, I completely get
• 37:12
  that, but this has not gone the way that anybody anticipate.
• 37:16
  Nobody would take a step forward this year under this new
• 37:18
  tutelage. No, of course she hasn't.
• 37:20
  Taking a step back, so certainly shooting the ball.
• 37:23
  She looked uncomfortable today. The times that I was watching,
• 37:26
  just out of sync, out of Now she's coming off an injury, OK,
• 37:30
  But now you got Atlanta, a team that is physical and tough
• 37:34
  coming up on Friday night and this does not look like a fever
• 37:37
  team that is ready for that. State Farm having second
• 37:41
  thoughts, right? Nike's still going to come out
• 37:43
  with the shoe. Probably not.
• 37:45
  Yeah, not at that point yet, but it's Fairpoint, all right.
• 37:48
  Running out of show? Yes.
• 37:49
  What are you betting? Well, we had a big boarding
• 37:51
  because we had the Valkyries, we had some tennis as I hit my
• 37:55
  party. Points did you get for the
• 37:56
  valve? 7 1/2 Jeez, cruised in that one.
• 37:59
  I got one more in the WNBA. Give me the Mercury tonight
• 38:02
  against Minnesota Collier. I think she's going to have a
• 38:04
  hangover after picking her All Star team last night.
• 38:06
  That's that's the theory that Clark did yes, absolutely.
• 38:09
  And I'm going to grab the nationals tonight plus 1/11 as
• 38:12
  they face off against the Cardinals is Mackenzie Gore.
• 38:15
  I'm just he's he's the guy you got to go with 3.1 OERA against
• 38:20
  plenty on the other side I think for the cards, but just two
• 38:22
  plays for tonight Nationals Mercury.
• 38:24
  All right, that's going to do it for us.
• 38:27
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• 38:31
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• 38:34
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• 38:42
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• 38:44
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