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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, so get ready, because today we're diving into
- 0:03a part of Iowa that's usually swept under the rug.
- 0:06We're talking about serial killers, and they're surprising ties to
- 0:09the Hawkeye State.
- 0:10Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting you say that, because we tend
- 0:13to think of these figures as coming from well somewhere else, right,
- 0:16big cities, anonymity, that kind of thing. But this deep dive,
- 0:19it really flips that script.
- 0:21Speaker 1: It totally does. Just look at the Donald Deane's study case.
- 0:24This is a story that's been making headlines recently. This
- 0:26guy lived in Therman, Iowa, normal life by all accounts,
- 0:30but now his own daughter is claiming he may have
- 0:32killed up with seventy people. Seventy they're actually digging up
- 0:36his property as we speak, trying to find answers. It
- 0:39really makes you think twice about those quiet, unsuspecting towns,
- 0:42doesn't it.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Absolutely the line between ordinary and terrifying is thinner than
- 0:47we think. Yeah, and that's exactly what we're going to
- 0:49cover today, exactly.
- 0:50Speaker 1: So let's start with the case that bridges the gap
- 0:53between past and present. Clark Perry Baldwin. We're talking murders
- 0:56that happened in the early nineties. But get this, they
- 0:59weren't solved until twenty twenty.
- 1:01Speaker 2: And that's where we see how much forensic science has
- 1:04changed the game. Baldwin probably thought he was in the
- 1:06clear decades gone by. Then bam, investigators find his DNA
- 1:11on a discarded chopping cart, of all things, and it's
- 1:14a match. This case really highlights how genealogy databases are
- 1:18revolutionizing cold case investigations. It's pretty incredible and more than
- 1:22a little unsettling.
- 1:23Speaker 1: It's like something out of a movie, only it's real life.
- 1:26And speaking of echoes from the past, we've got Jake Byrd. Now.
- 1:30His story is straight out of a horror film. Brutal
- 1:33axe murders in the nineteen forties, confession spanning over a
- 1:36dozen states.
- 1:37Speaker 2: And what's really disturbing about Bird is how his case
- 1:39exposes the complexities of the criminal justice system back then
- 1:43and even now. He was initially sentenced to thirty years
- 1:46in Iowa for a horrific access ault. And here's the kicker.
- 1:50They let him out early after only twelve years for
- 1:53good behavior.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, So this guy who clearly has a
- 1:56thing for violence and acxes, apparently they just let him
- 1:59walk free. No, surprises. Here he goes on a multi
- 2:02state killing spree. How on earth did that happen?
- 2:05Speaker 2: Well, back then, the focus was on penal rehabilitation. The
- 2:09idea was to reform offenders, not just punish them. But
- 2:12over time, as we learned more about criminal psychology, we
- 2:15developed better risk assessment tools, so our approach to sentencing
- 2:19has changed, thankfully.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Still, it's a stark reminder that even with good intentions,
- 2:23the system can fail and the consequences can be devastating.
- 2:27All right, shifting gears a bit, Let's talk about Carol
- 2:30Edward Cole. This one's different. He was actually born and
- 2:32raised right here in Iowa, Sioux City to be exact.
- 2:35Speaker 2: And Cole's life, it's a tragic story of mental illness, alcoholism,
- 2:40and these increasingly violent fantasies. He actually claims have committed
- 2:44his first murder at eight years old, said he drowned
- 2:46a friend who teased him. Now, whether or not that's true,
- 2:49we can't say for sure. But what's undeniable is how
- 2:52his case highlights the immense challenges of recognizing and addressing
- 2:56early signs of violence, especially in a system that often
- 2:59fails those who eat it most.
- 3:00Speaker 1: It really makes you wonder, you know, could early intervention
- 3:04have changed his path? Could it have prevented the thirty
- 3:07five murders he eventually confessed to. It's a question that
- 3:11comes up a lot with these cases, especially when you
- 3:14think about someone like John Wayne Gacy, the killer clown.
- 3:17You've had that name, right, Oh?
- 3:18Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah. Gaysey's case, it's practically a textbook example of
- 3:22how evil can hide in plain sight. The guy was
- 3:25living a double life, right, dressed up like a clown,
- 3:27entertaining kids at parties, at a seemingly normal life in Waterloo, Iowa.
- 3:32Even worked as a restaurant manager, and all the while
- 3:35this horrifying secret was lurking beneath the surface.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Just thinking about it gives me chills. Your friendly neighborhood clown,
- 3:42your boss, the guy's serving you coffee. You just never
- 3:44really know what's going on behind closed doors, do you.
- 3:47Speaker 2: That's the thing, isn't it. It's unsettling for sure, But
- 3:49that's why understanding these patterns, recognizing the signs, it's so
- 3:52important not to glorify these individuals, but to learn from
- 3:56these tragedies and hopefully prevent them in the future.
- 3:59Speaker 1: It's about connecting the dots understanding what makes these individuals
- 4:03tick and ideally intervening before it's too late.
- 4:07Speaker 2: And it often comes down to using those advancements in
- 4:09froenic forensic science you mentioned, right. Take Harry Edward Greenwell
- 4:13for example, the I sixty five killer. This guy commits
- 4:16these horrific crimes in the late eighties and just disappears,
- 4:20vanishes off the radar.
- 4:21Speaker 1: It's mind boggling. Decades go by, the case runs cold,
- 4:24families are left wondering, hurting, and then nine years after
- 4:28Greenwell dies, DNA technology steps in and identifies him as
- 4:32the guy. It's almost hard to wrap your head.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Around, right, talk about justice delayed, but in the end
- 4:37it was just as served. And that's huge. Those families
- 4:40finally get some closure and name a face to put
- 4:43to the nightmare. But it also makes you think, doesn't
- 4:45it about the ethics of it all? I mean, they
- 4:48caught him through a familial DNA.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Right, You're right, It's not so cut and dry exactly.
- 4:53Speaker 2: Investigators are combing through databases looking at relatives DNA. Where's
- 4:57the line when it comes to privacy and our genetic information?
- 5:00Pretty thorny stuff. But let's shift gears a bit let's
- 5:04talk about Robert Hanson, the butcher baker. Now, this guy
- 5:07he actually honed his hunting skills right here in Iowa
- 5:10before heading up to Alaska. That's where he really made
- 5:12his name stalking and killing women. Chilling stuff.
- 5:16Speaker 1: It's a chilling thought. The idea that someone could be
- 5:19so adept at hiding their true nature and those skills
- 5:22they honed, they were used for such darkness. It's disturbing,
- 5:25to say the least.
- 5:26Speaker 2: And it's that ability to blend in that's so unsettling. Hanson,
- 5:29he had his bakery, was a family man, at least
- 5:31on the surface. We see it time and time again.
- 5:33Tacky Israel Keys, for example, run its own construction business.
- 5:36Seemed like a regular guy, but underneath a whole other story,
- 5:40a meticulously crafted double life. These guys were masters of deception.
- 5:45Speaker 1: It's a reminder that evil doesn't always come with a
- 5:47warning label. Sometimes it's the quiet ones, the ones who
- 5:51seem so ordinary that you have to watch out for.
- 5:54And speaking of flying under the radar, let's talk about
- 5:57Charles Ray Hatcher. This guy's story is like a master
- 5:59class in criminal cunning.
- 6:01Speaker 2: No kidding. Hatcher really highlights how someone can exploit the
- 6:04weaknesses of the system, especially back then. The guy was
- 6:08a chameleon, multiple aliases, fake birth dates, drifting from state
- 6:12to state, leaving a trail of victims in his wake.
- 6:16It's enough to make your head spin.
- 6:17Speaker 1: It's terrifying, really, to think that someone could be so
- 6:20good at evating justice for so long. All right, brace yourself,
- 6:24because this next one is a real head scratcher. Randy
- 6:27Stephen Kraft, the scorecard killer, infamous for his crimes in California.
- 6:31But what's the Iowa connection, you ask, Well, it all
- 6:34comes down to a single word scribbled in his journal, Iowa.
- 6:37Speaker 2: Shilling, isn't it? Yeah, one word and so many questions.
- 6:41Investigators think it refers to a marine from des Moines.
- 6:44The guy was found murdered in California. It just goes
- 6:47to show how far reaching these cases can be, how
- 6:49the impact ripples outward, touching lives in ways you wouldn't expect.
- 6:53Speaker 1: It's a stark reminder that these crimes don't exist in
- 6:55a vacuum. They leave scars on families, communities. The effects
- 7:00can be felt for generations. It's heartbreaking. But let's move
- 7:03on to another case. This one is sure to make
- 7:06you think twice the next time you're at a truck stop.
- 7:08Robert ben Rhodes, the truck stop killer. This guy from
- 7:12Council Bluffs, Iowa, turned his truck into a mobile torture chamber.
- 7:16Speaker 2: It's a horrifying thought, and it exposes a really dark
- 7:20side of transient lifestyles, those long stretches on the road,
- 7:23the isolation, the anonymity, It can attract a certain type
- 7:27and it can leads people incredibly vulnerable.
- 7:29Speaker 1: It's a chilling reminder that danger can lurk even in
- 7:32the most ordinary places, and for some that danger alerts
- 7:35even closer to home. Take, for example, the case of
- 7:37Gano Gilbert Smith. This guy from right here in Iowa
- 7:41became a family annihilator, murdered six of his own relatives. Six.
- 7:45Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough to even process something like that. The
- 7:46family farm should be a sanctuary in place of safety,
- 7:49and then you have a case like Smith's and it
- 7:51just shatters that illusion absolutely.
- 7:54Speaker 1: It makes you realize that darkness confester anywhere, even in
- 7:57the places we consider safest. And speaking of families, our
- 8:02final case hits close to home for me personally. Robert
- 8:05Stangler never heard of.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Him, the name rings a belle Wait. Is that the Spangler,
- 8:10the one they named the building after at Iowa State.
- 8:12Speaker 1: That's the one. It's always been unsettling to me, that connection,
- 8:16this place of learning of growth forever linked to this
- 8:18guy and the way he went about it so calculated.
- 8:22Speaker 2: What do you mean.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Spangler killed his family, his wife and kids to get
- 8:24out of his marriage, staged it to look like a
- 8:27murder suicide. Then years later he does it again, takes
- 8:31out his third wife. The audacity is just unbelievable.
- 8:34Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting you bring up those two cases
- 8:36back to back Smith and Spangler, because they both highlight
- 8:40this really disturbing aspect of family annihilators, that twisted sense
- 8:45of control.
- 8:45Speaker 1: It's like they believe they have the right to decide
- 8:47who lives and who dies, all within their own family.
- 8:50It's chilling, it really is.
- 8:51Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a reminder that sometimes the monsters we
- 8:54should fear most aren't the ones hiding in the shadows.
- 8:57They're the ones sitting across from us at the dinner table.
- 9:00Speaker 1: It's a chilling thought to end on, but an important
- 9:02one nonetheless. As we wrap up this deep dive into
- 9:05Iowa's dark side, it makes you wonder, what is it
- 9:09about these stories, these glimpses into the darkest corners of
- 9:13human nature, that we find so fascinating, and, let's be honest,
- 9:17so terrifying.
- 9:19Speaker 2: It's a question that's been debated for centuries. Maybe it's
- 9:22the need to understand the extremes of our own nature,
- 9:25or perhaps it's a morbid curiosity, a way to confront
- 9:28our own mortality. Whatever the reason, these stories remind us
- 9:32that darkness can lurk even in the most unexpected places.
- 9:35Speaker 1: And that's a lesson we should never forget, because by
- 9:38shedding light on these dark corners, by talking about these cases,
- 9:40by understanding the patterns and the warning signs, maybe, just
- 9:44maybe we can prevent future tragedies. So until next time,
- 9:47stay curious, stay informed, and most importantly, stay safe out there.