Latest / Becker’s Healthcare -- Pediatric Leadership Podcast / Peter Baker, Senior Vice President and Administrator at Loma Linda University Children's Health
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- 1:14This is Chris Sosa with the Becker's Healthcare
- 1:16podcast.
- 1:17I'm thrilled to be joined by Peter Baker,
- 1:19senior vice president and administrator of Loma Linda
- 1:21University Children's Hospital. Peter, thank you for joining
- 1:24us today.
- 1:25Thank you, Chris. Pleasure to be here.
- 1:28Excellent. Could you please introduce yourself for
- 1:31our listeners who do not know who you
- 1:33are and tell us a bit about your
- 1:34background? Yeah. I'd be happy to. Well, yeah,
- 1:37I serve as the administrator and and and
- 1:40and chief executive for the children's hospital here
- 1:43at Loma Linda. We're about a 365
- 1:45bed children's hospital located in Southern California,
- 1:50serving about
- 1:51a 5th of the land mass
- 1:53of California.
- 1:54And,
- 1:56a little bit about myself,
- 1:57I am am an attorney, by background,
- 2:01and thought I wanted to go to into
- 2:03law. But, you know, as I,
- 2:05developed my own
- 2:07pathway,
- 2:08realized, you know, I really had a a
- 2:10a a desire to get into business,
- 2:13and actually found a lot of enjoyment and
- 2:15satisfaction
- 2:16in in building relationships and collaborations and really
- 2:20finding ways to kind of engage communities.
- 2:23And from that, I actually ventured into into
- 2:25health care from that out of a random
- 2:28interaction, with a health care executive.
- 2:31And,
- 2:32I've been on that path, for the last,
- 2:3515, 20 years,
- 2:36serving in various roles, mostly in business development.
- 2:39Actually, it's where I I as I mentioned,
- 2:41I I have a joy in in finding
- 2:43ways to collaborate
- 2:46and and build new services for for various
- 2:49communities,
- 2:50and and and collaborating with physicians and did
- 2:52that for
- 2:54a large portion of my career and then
- 2:56got into running hospitals, ran a, a,
- 3:00adult hospital,
- 3:01at Loma Linda University Medical Center Marietta,
- 3:04for about 6, 7 years. And then,
- 3:07during that period, I got married,
- 3:09and my wife is a pediatric
- 3:12oncology nurse.
- 3:13And, I was working at Loma Linda Children's.
- 3:16And when the role came up, they said,
- 3:17hey, Peter. You've got some family that's here,
- 3:20and I think you do a great job
- 3:22serving and end up being a great collaboration.
- 3:24So I've been fortunate to to leave the
- 3:25Children's Hospital here for the last 3 years,
- 3:28and grateful for the opportunity to serve.
- 3:31Peter, thank you so much for elaborating on
- 3:33that. I am interested a little more in
- 3:35this random interaction you have with a health
- 3:38care
- 3:39provider or person in the industry. Could you
- 3:41describe a little bit more about that? Yeah.
- 3:44I I, at the time, I was at
- 3:45a wedding, and,
- 3:47there was a CEO for,
- 3:51Adventist Health, who I ended up meeting and
- 3:53and talking with. And and
- 3:55Adventist Health is a is kind of a
- 3:57sister organization of Loma Linda.
- 4:00And they introduced me to to to hospital
- 4:03administration and,
- 4:05thought I might be a good candidate,
- 4:07to be part of their organization. Not something
- 4:09that I thought about, and had a great
- 4:11conversation about, you know, all the things that
- 4:13go into health care, and really realized, you
- 4:16know, that was that aligned with with who
- 4:18I am as a as an individual and,
- 4:20ended up being a better career path. And
- 4:22they reached out a couple weeks later and
- 4:24kinda got me plugged in, and the rest
- 4:26is kinda history from there.
- 4:28Wonderful. It sounds like you're very happy that
- 4:30you landed at Loma Linda for sure. And
- 4:33so in that context, what do you think
- 4:35are your priorities for
- 4:37not only yourself, but Loma Linda University Children's
- 4:41in general?
- 4:43Yeah. That's a great question,
- 4:44Chris.
- 4:46You know, for me, a big priority is
- 4:49just access to pediatric services.
- 4:51You know, there's some changes going on in
- 4:53our industry,
- 4:55particularly as it relates to pediatrics and OB,
- 4:59services and maternity services at at,
- 5:02in in health care.
- 5:04In particular, our region, there's a lot of
- 5:06community hospitals that are closing their pediatric services
- 5:09and OB services. I heard of another one
- 5:11just this week that is in our region
- 5:13that's closing their
- 5:15OB services. So for me,
- 5:18you know, there's a there's a huge focus
- 5:20on
- 5:21giving the capacity
- 5:23for pediatrics,
- 5:24for have making sure we have enough OB
- 5:27OB and pediatric beds to meet the demand
- 5:29in our region,
- 5:31as as more community hospitals,
- 5:34focus more on on adult care services.
- 5:36So that's one of the key priorities,
- 5:39and really improving throughput and
- 5:41responsiveness to community hospitals so that, you know,
- 5:44they can, the the patients they need to
- 5:47come to our hospital, we we are getting
- 5:49them here very quickly. The second priority for
- 5:51me,
- 5:52is really kind of expanding new service lines.
- 5:55Behavioral health and mental health,
- 5:58is really a focus as well. More and
- 6:01more
- 6:02children,
- 6:03especially through the COVID and the and the
- 6:05pandemic,
- 6:07recognize challenges as it relates to mental health.
- 6:09They're really
- 6:10exponentially
- 6:11increased,
- 6:13need for
- 6:14inpatient and outpatient services
- 6:16for these kids.
- 6:18And especially in our market, you know, we
- 6:20just see that as the fastest growing
- 6:23inpatient need in our region. And it's really
- 6:26sad. You know?
- 6:27It's really sad to see that. Unfortunately, more
- 6:29and more kids are being affected
- 6:31by this.
- 6:32But so we feel a huge desire to
- 6:35expand it. We're building a new, what we
- 6:37call a crisis stabilization
- 6:39unit,
- 6:40which is really to support
- 6:43kids who come to our emergency and really
- 6:45just need short term, you know, medications
- 6:48or or just a quick
- 6:51treatment versus an inpatient stay.
- 6:53And so we're building that out as well
- 6:55as we're building a new 49 bed
- 6:57inpatient
- 6:58behavioral health unit as well. So
- 7:01those are some of the things we're doing
- 7:02as well as just expanding our peds, services
- 7:05to
- 7:06accommodate, you know, some of the closures and
- 7:08other things that's going on in our in
- 7:10our region.
- 7:12Peter, as you and your team ponder all
- 7:15those priorities that you just laid out, how
- 7:17how do you see the next 18 months
- 7:19or so playing out in terms of meeting
- 7:21the needs of the community and your own
- 7:23organization?
- 7:25Yeah. I know. That's a good that's a
- 7:26that's a great question.
- 7:28You know, one of the things we are
- 7:30really focused on the 8 next 18 months
- 7:32is is really access to to care in
- 7:34the outpatient setting.
- 7:36And so we're also gonna be growing that.
- 7:39I'm I'm focusing on building a new specialty
- 7:42care medical office building, about a 5 story
- 7:44building where we're kind of consolidating all of
- 7:46our specialty services is in in one place,
- 7:49as well as finding ways to kinda reach
- 7:51out all these different communities with pediatric
- 7:54services.
- 7:55Pediatric urgent cares,
- 7:57outpatient clinics
- 7:59is really gonna be something we're hoping to
- 8:00open up more services in the next 18
- 8:03months or so. So that's that's one.
- 8:06I think we're also trying to find more
- 8:08creative ways to work with our payers.
- 8:10You know, in California,
- 8:12payer dynamics
- 8:13continue to change.
- 8:15It's going from a fee for service
- 8:17world to more of an HMO
- 8:20world. And so,
- 8:21finding ways to to align incentives and and
- 8:25and support
- 8:26that capitated model is is a key focus
- 8:29of ours as well.
- 8:30And then maybe the last thing is just
- 8:32really a strong focus on advocacy.
- 8:35You know, kind of the sad part of
- 8:37pediatric,
- 8:38is is just the lack of
- 8:41physicians that are going into
- 8:44pediatric subspecialists.
- 8:46You know, across the nation,
- 8:49only about 50%
- 8:51of pediatric subspecialty
- 8:53slots are being filled.
- 8:55Unfortunately,
- 8:57you know, physicians are choosing other
- 9:00areas to go into,
- 9:02for their training than pediatrics
- 9:04and pediatric subspecialty services.
- 9:07You know, a big aspect of that is
- 9:09is reimbursement for physicians. And so really working
- 9:13with, you know, our our states and federal
- 9:15government on how do we make,
- 9:18you
- 9:19know, care, whether you're a pediatrician
- 9:21or an adult practicing physician, equal.
- 9:24And unfortunately, we're starting to see the the
- 9:26fruits of,
- 9:28unfortunately, lower reimbursement for
- 9:30for, pediatricians,
- 9:32playing out as just we just have less
- 9:34providers.
- 9:35And so we're hoping to see if we
- 9:37can advocate stronger for that, tell the story
- 9:40of, you know, the the huge need we
- 9:42have in pediatrics
- 9:44and why,
- 9:46are we need to invest in that. So
- 9:48that's that's a big focus of mine,
- 9:50and our and our teams as well.
- 9:53Peter, thank you for expounding on all that.
- 9:54I'm glad you mentioned some of the challenges
- 9:57that you're facing in pediatrics right now with
- 9:59respect to the subspecialists and not being enough
- 10:02of them. Is there anything else in the
- 10:03industry that's making you nervous right now?
- 10:06Yeah. I,
- 10:07I think just broadly
- 10:09advocating for
- 10:10pediatric
- 10:11services and and care. In in California in
- 10:15particular,
- 10:15you know, we've historically had challenges,
- 10:18with pediatric reimbursement.
- 10:20It's been stagnated for the last
- 10:2312 or 13 years.
- 10:25You know, a lot of what we do
- 10:26in pediatrics, unfortunately with the high inflation,
- 10:29you know, continue to advocate for that. And
- 10:31and unfortunately that stagnation,
- 10:34as I mentioned, has caused a lot of
- 10:36hospitals to close their OB and,
- 10:40and pediatric services. And so, you know, just
- 10:43really advocacy
- 10:44around not only just the physician but the
- 10:46the hospital wide
- 10:48services,
- 10:49for for for increased reimbursement that keeps up
- 10:52with inflation is is a huge, huge focus
- 10:55of ours and and and ensuring that will
- 10:58allow
- 10:59us to just continue to broaden
- 11:02services throughout the region,
- 11:04in pediatrics. So that's a big one.
- 11:08And I think
- 11:10I touched on it. Obviously, we're opening behavioral
- 11:12health, but behavioral health for kids
- 11:15is another area where we see a lot
- 11:18of hospitals,
- 11:19health care providers,
- 11:20cutting services. You know,
- 11:23unfortunately, the pandemic has really challenged hospitals.
- 11:28And, you know, oftentimes,
- 11:30you know, as we've mentioned, behavioral health is
- 11:32one of those where you look at, you
- 11:34know, what's essential and sometimes that isn't as
- 11:36essential as some of the
- 11:38other services you're providing. And
- 11:41just making sure we have a strong
- 11:43sustainable model,
- 11:45for behavioral health because there's there's more and
- 11:48more kids who are,
- 11:50recognizing
- 11:51their need for
- 11:52for for treatment therapy,
- 11:54and there's just not enough providers to go
- 11:56around.
- 11:57You know, when you try to get if
- 11:59a child needs a psychiatrist, you try to
- 12:01they come to our emergency department, you know,
- 12:03oftentimes trying to to get them appointment,
- 12:06you know, can be a 2 month or
- 12:08longer
- 12:09challenge. And that's just not acceptable.
- 12:11You know, we got a child who's in
- 12:13in a bit of an emergency. And so,
- 12:16you know, ensuring we have,
- 12:20you know, psychiatrists, therapists, psychologists
- 12:23that and and individuals who wanna go into
- 12:25that and and the ability to,
- 12:28is really a critical
- 12:29need we have, and and and advocating for
- 12:32that is is a priority for for me.
- 12:34And and hopefully, that results in less hospitalizations
- 12:37in the end. You know? I think our
- 12:39hope
- 12:39is building out that outpatient means we get
- 12:42we get less,
- 12:43who end up coming to our ED because
- 12:45there's nowhere else to turn.
- 12:47So that's a that's another concerning area we
- 12:50focus on.
- 12:52On the other side of that coin, Peter,
- 12:54what right now is making you excited that
- 12:56to just to come to work every day
- 12:58saying, yeah, we get to challenge
- 13:00ourselves in meeting this goal, and we're going
- 13:02to do it.
- 13:04I, you know, I love working for a
- 13:05children's hospital. You know, I think, for me,
- 13:08you know,
- 13:10it's a joy to come.
- 13:11You know, it's for me, working in a
- 13:13children's hospital,
- 13:15the passion,
- 13:16of the
- 13:18of the clinicians,
- 13:19the physicians, the nurses, the the clinical
- 13:23the the clinical leaders here all just have
- 13:25just a a a much higher level of
- 13:27engagement and energy,
- 13:29I find, than some of the other
- 13:31opportunities I've had to work. And that just
- 13:34brings joy to me when you're all focused
- 13:35around really,
- 13:37lifting up children, giving them the best environment
- 13:40to get well,
- 13:42and and seeing them progress. And so I
- 13:45love coming in work to work. I love
- 13:47working with the people I get to work
- 13:48with. You know, I'm excited about the future.
- 13:51Despite some of the challenges we've got, we
- 13:53are growing significantly here at Loma Linda. You
- 13:56know, we're bringing a lot more services to
- 13:58this region, this community.
- 14:00So I'm I I get really excited about
- 14:02our expansion projects and our ability to
- 14:05serve more, in our region.
- 14:07And maybe the third thing I'm I I'm
- 14:09incredibly,
- 14:11impressed and excited about is new,
- 14:13therapies that are being offered as particularly gene
- 14:16therapies,
- 14:18you know, illnesses.
- 14:19One of which that affects our community significantly
- 14:22is sickle cell and these,
- 14:24you know,
- 14:25poor children, you know, have this blood disorder
- 14:28that unfortunately is debilitating.
- 14:31And there's new gene therapies that are just
- 14:34hitting the market market that essentially,
- 14:37allows
- 14:39the
- 14:40child to have, you know, infusions
- 14:43that essentially,
- 14:44change their blood DNA and sickle cell to
- 14:48treat it and cure it. And so that
- 14:51new therapy, while quite expensive, is coming on
- 14:53the market. And these
- 14:55individuals and these these children and these, that
- 14:58have been affected by it, are gonna how
- 15:00a lot of them are gonna be cured.
- 15:02So it's exciting to see that. We have
- 15:04the same thing with leukemia.
- 15:05Some of these gene therapies, in our in
- 15:08our situation, we started offering one that's called
- 15:11CAR T therapy where children with leukemia,
- 15:15you know, get their blood drawn.
- 15:17It goes back to a lab,
- 15:19and it gets reengineered
- 15:21to have the the,
- 15:23blood cells go and target,
- 15:26the leukemia
- 15:27blood cells,
- 15:28and destroy them so that the child is
- 15:30is cured. And then get and then that
- 15:33blood gets reinfused in them, and they're cured.
- 15:36And so these gene therapies are a game
- 15:38changer. You know, I dream of the day
- 15:41we may have we we would be able
- 15:43to close our our pediatric cancer unit, but
- 15:46it's really exciting and inspiring to see this
- 15:48and to see these these ailments that have
- 15:51affected children,
- 15:52have the potential to be going away. So
- 15:55those are some of the things that really
- 15:56excite me.
- 15:58Certainly, everyone will welcome a day when all
- 16:00the children's cancer centers could be closed, and,
- 16:02hopefully, that day is closer than we think.
- 16:04I mean, I'm glad you mentioned the therapies.
- 16:06I was just talking to Dan Fields over
- 16:08at CHOP, and he mentioned those as well.
- 16:10It's just really exciting
- 16:12what physicians and scientists were able to do
- 16:14on that front.
- 16:16Yeah. It's it's incredible. I mean, it's really
- 16:18incredible. I mean, it's an exciting time,
- 16:21to be able to be a part of
- 16:23this. You know?
- 16:24So,
- 16:25yeah, it's it's it's gonna make a big
- 16:28difference on in in kids.
- 16:30So we're we're thrilled.
- 16:32Lastly, Peter, is there anything else regarding pediatrics
- 16:36that you would like to see a brighter
- 16:37spotlight on?
- 16:39Yeah.
- 16:41I think just continuing
- 16:43to advocate. You know? I think I've talked
- 16:45touched on this. You know? But
- 16:48really just,
- 16:49keeping forefront, you know, concerns around,
- 16:52you know, just reduction of of these services
- 16:55in in in the communities. And I I
- 16:57think I've talked a little about it, but
- 16:59it it it's certainly something that keeps me
- 17:01concerned
- 17:02at night is, you know, making sure our
- 17:04kids have access to care.
- 17:06And
- 17:07hopefully as we kind of go through this,
- 17:08I'm I'm seeing some movement in California where,
- 17:11you know, it sounds like they're looking to
- 17:13to move some of their reimbursement to that
- 17:16has historically been underfunded
- 17:18towards
- 17:18centers that have OB services and maternity services,
- 17:22as well as pediatrics
- 17:24to offer more funding so that we can
- 17:26have access more access to care.
- 17:28So I think that just continues to be
- 17:29a a big focus of ours and and
- 17:31advocacy. So
- 17:34Peter, thank you for being so generous with
- 17:36your time and insights today. We absolutely cannot
- 17:38wait to share them with our audience, and
- 17:40we look forward to connecting with you again
- 17:41soon.
- 17:42Hey. Thanks, Chris. Great to be here.