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Breaking Down Loss to 49ers | Jaguars Reporters · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into another edition of Jaguars Reporters. After a Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: loss to the San Francisco forty nine Ers, safety Shadwick,
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  Speaker 1: Kai Stevens, Brian Zexton, John Ozer thirty four three All Niners,
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  Speaker 1: all day long.
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  Speaker 2: Ki, And you know we've seen this a couple of
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  Speaker 2: times before, the Doug Peterson are the blowout loss in
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  Speaker 2: Detroit last year, they win the last five of the
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  Speaker 2: regular season, and then of course this year in Houston,
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  Speaker 2: or when Houston came to town, when Jaguars won the
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  Speaker 2: next five after that. So hey, it makes sense that
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  Speaker 2: they're going to win five more after this.
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  Speaker 3: One, right, we hope, so hope It's a hard reset game.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the dreary weather has carried over from Sunday
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  Speaker 3: into Monday. I think this needs to be a game
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  Speaker 3: where they look at the film and they hold on
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  Speaker 3: to this for a little longer than maybe you would
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  Speaker 3: before you turn the page, because you need to feel it.
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  Speaker 3: Because there was a lot of problems on Sunday that
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  Speaker 3: they need to address, and some of them are repeated
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  Speaker 3: problems that they've been dealing with the entire season, and
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  Speaker 3: some of them were you know, self caused errors. As
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  Speaker 3: Doug Peterson would say. But that's stuff that we were
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  Speaker 3: saying after that Texans game he mentioned, And how many
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  Speaker 3: games can you have that where it's like, oh, we
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  Speaker 3: just let it get away. You need to be able
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  Speaker 3: to pinpoint those issues and not have the repeated same
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  Speaker 3: mistakes if you're.
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  Speaker 4: Looking for something to hang your hat on this morning,
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  Speaker 4: and I know a lot of Jaguars fans are. The
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  Speaker 4: Niners took apart the Cowboys on Sunday Night Football Week
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  Speaker 4: five when we were in London, and Tony Dungee was
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  Speaker 4: here two days later to do an event and he
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  Speaker 4: told me he hadn't seen a team dismantle a team
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  Speaker 4: that thoroughly in a long time. And then the Cowboys
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  Speaker 4: have gone on to win three of four and they
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  Speaker 4: played really well in Philly and maybe if Dak doesn't
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  Speaker 4: put his foot out of bounds on that two point conversion,
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  Speaker 4: they win. Same thing with the Lions right thirty eight six,
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  Speaker 4: their doors were blown off in Baltimore, and that was
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  Speaker 4: a marquee game that week. Everyone was pointing to that game.
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  Speaker 4: And since then they've come back to beat the Raiders
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  Speaker 4: on Monday Night Football and they won a big game
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  Speaker 4: over the Chargers. At the end of the ball game.
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  Speaker 4: You can rebound from this, and you better because you
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  Speaker 4: have the Titans and the Texans and JP, I think
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  Speaker 4: the division title is on the line the next two weeks.
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  Speaker 4: Good news is that was your goal. Win the division,
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  Speaker 4: host a home playoff game all right there in front
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  Speaker 4: of you. You win the next two This one kind
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  Speaker 4: of fades quickly because you'll be eight and three and
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  Speaker 4: in a good spot.
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  Speaker 5: Well. The biggest truth in the NFL, and it's everybody
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  Speaker 5: forgets it every year and there's examples every year. What
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  Speaker 5: Brian talked about the week to week league thing is
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  Speaker 5: a cliche because it's been true forever. It remains true.
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  Speaker 5: Jarard's have been exceptionally good, as JP pointed out, at
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  Speaker 5: responding and playing well under Doug Peterson after an embarrassing loss.
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  Speaker 5: There's nothing to indicate that they won't be able to
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  Speaker 5: do that again. The exception to that being the offensive
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  Speaker 5: line and the offense showed some things yesterday that can't
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  Speaker 5: continue going forward, and we're going to talk about the
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  Speaker 5: offensive line the offense a little bit more. That has
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  Speaker 5: to be consistent, more consistent moving forward. If they're going
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  Speaker 5: to go on a run. So I'm not sure they
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  Speaker 5: can replicate the five game winning streak without a little
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  Speaker 5: better offense and a little more consistency there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the second lowest yarda chop put in
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  Speaker 1: the Doug Peterson era. Only the Philly game last year
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  Speaker 1: was lower in terms of that, and of course the
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  Speaker 1: four giveaways. But let's get right to that offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: This was the starting five that they really had imagined
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  Speaker 1: from the start of the year. Cam Robinson left tackle,
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  Speaker 1: Walker a Little back in there at left guard. He
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  Speaker 1: only played eleven snaps in is the game in London
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  Speaker 1: where they had everybody together. He's finally back in there.
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  Speaker 1: And then they they're facing this front for San Francisco
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  Speaker 1: that is right there near to the top of the league.
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  Speaker 3: Jump.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it seemed like that was maybe a perfect
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  Speaker 5: storm of unfortunate circumstance. But I mean, I'm not sure
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  Speaker 5: this offense fine is gonna be great this season. I
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  Speaker 5: think it can be a lot better than it was
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  Speaker 5: on Sunday. And then you had Walker little coming back
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  Speaker 5: to what is relatively new position for him still and
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  Speaker 5: then guess what, Okay, you're gonna get your starting five
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  Speaker 5: back without much continuity, and you get to play these guys, right,
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  Speaker 5: So you know I think formidable task. Yeah, sure, I
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  Speaker 5: think in that respect, I would expect the group to
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  Speaker 5: get better with continuities. Offensive lines usually do. This is
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  Speaker 5: their five. They were playing better than this before the bye,
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  Speaker 5: so I anticipate that improving. And I'm not sure they
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  Speaker 5: need to be great to be a whole lot better,
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  Speaker 5: if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 4: Well, a lot of people are really excited to hear
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  Speaker 4: you say that because their lasting memory of yesterday's game
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  Speaker 4: is that offensive line sure just folding under the pressure.
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  Speaker 4: And again, I think we talked about this last week.
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  Speaker 4: They had two hundred and two million guaranteed dollars with
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  Speaker 4: three players before they traded for Chase Young, So I mean,
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  Speaker 4: and then they've jumped into that exotic five man front
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  Speaker 4: and they're really good. That's the hard part is that
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  Speaker 4: it looked like they just couldn't even compete upfront. They
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  Speaker 4: couldn't run. And let's be honest, this football team has
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  Speaker 4: not been able to run the ball with any force
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  Speaker 4: this year. They've gotten great play from ETN, but on
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  Speaker 4: third down to three, if you felt confident in their
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  Speaker 4: ability to put their hand in the ground and create
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  Speaker 4: running and then of course, that's the cascade kai of
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  Speaker 4: You know, the line doesn't play well, and they haven't
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  Speaker 4: played well all year long. They've played better than that,
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  Speaker 4: but they haven't played well, and then the quarterback's process
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  Speaker 4: is sped up and against those guys it needed to
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  Speaker 4: be anyway, He wasn't great. It's just a bad all
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  Speaker 4: around day.
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  Speaker 3: I think it doesn't help certainly that the offensive line
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  Speaker 3: has been playing that way. And now it's a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of a mental game as well. Not only are
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  Speaker 3: they not playing well, Trevor's in his own head because
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  Speaker 3: he knows they're not playing well. You know, whether or
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  Speaker 3: not he says that he knows that, and you can
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  Speaker 3: see it by how he's moving around the pocket, how
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  Speaker 3: quickly he's digging it, or just the plays that he's
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  Speaker 3: making and how he's making them. So part of that
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  Speaker 3: is getting his confidence back in them. Whether or not
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna get much better, I don't know, but you
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  Speaker 3: got to make him believe they're getting better so that
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  Speaker 3: he gets to a place where he can throw the
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  Speaker 3: football because what they're doing right now certainly isn't working.
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  Speaker 2: No, certainly didn't work yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, we'll come back in a moment, and hey,
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  Speaker 1: the defense, we'll get to their day because they didn't
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  Speaker 1: have much of a good day either, and we'll look
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  Speaker 1: ahead to the Titans as well. It's Jaguars Reporters. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: back to the Jaguars Reporters podcast. JP Shadick, John Ojebrian
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  Speaker 1: Sexs and Kay Stevens. After a Jaguars loss to the
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  Speaker 1: forty nine ers, we've broken down the offense. Now it's
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  Speaker 1: about this Jaguars defense. It was really kind of leading
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  Speaker 1: the Jags through the early part of this season with
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  Speaker 1: their somewhat consistent play and you know, take away ability
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  Speaker 1: and third down they were getting better as it went.
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  Speaker 1: And yesterday happened in San Francisco. You know, first four plays, touchdown, bang,
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  Speaker 1: second drive, field goal, ten to nothing lead, and then
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  Speaker 1: second play of the second half, sixty six yarder and
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  Speaker 1: that's a three score game, all the sudden ki And
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  Speaker 1: that was a San Francisco team that early in the
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  Speaker 1: game had the ability to play the way they wanted
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  Speaker 1: to play, and that's run the ball McCaffrey all over
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  Speaker 1: the place, take their shots when they could, and that's
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco football.
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  Speaker 3: This defense has been about stopping the run, letting them
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  Speaker 3: pass in front of them, keeping the ball in front
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  Speaker 3: of them, and creating turnovers. And they didn't do any
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  Speaker 3: of that. Yesterday. Christian McCaffrey ran all over the place.
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  Speaker 3: He averaged more than six yards of rush. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they let them get in front of them, make those
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  Speaker 3: passes and then make big chunk plays. It wasn't just
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  Speaker 3: one or two. They didn't you know, hold hold stead
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  Speaker 3: at the.
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  Speaker 5: Line at.
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  Speaker 3: You know, when they're in the red zone either, so
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  Speaker 3: you're letting them score at that point. And you didn't
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  Speaker 3: create any turnovers that are helping your team. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the games that they're winning are when the defense is
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  Speaker 3: giving offense the ball back three four times, and that's
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  Speaker 3: not sustainable. This defense has been playing amazing all season,
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  Speaker 3: but they can't also create the offense. So they didn't
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  Speaker 3: do any of the things that they need to do
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  Speaker 3: well to make themselves stand out. And the offense certainly
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  Speaker 3: did not help them.
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  Speaker 4: Their big guys made plays. Ayuk Deebo Samuel is an
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  Speaker 4: absolute weapon for them. You can see the way they
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  Speaker 4: use him in McCaffrey. At one moment they brought them
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  Speaker 4: both in motion to the left side and then the
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  Speaker 4: play went to the backside to Kittle because everybody's over there.
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  Speaker 4: Their personnel is great, and we talked about it last week.
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  Speaker 4: You got to do your job. Mike Caldwell would have
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  Speaker 4: a plan to be able to combat it. But if
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  Speaker 4: you get caught up in all the window dressing and
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  Speaker 4: how they move players around and you don't do your job,
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  Speaker 4: they'll make you look stupid. And the last thing is
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  Speaker 4: that's the way they play, and if they get an
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  Speaker 4: early lead, they kick your butt. But if you can
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  Speaker 4: stay even with them or get ahead of them, that
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  Speaker 4: offense isn't quite as effective. But it was a worst
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  Speaker 4: case scenario. Their personnel was really good and they beat
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  Speaker 4: the Jags.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't worry very much about the defense after
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  Speaker 5: that game, and I'll tell you why they got down
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  Speaker 5: ten to nothing. But then for the next quarter ish
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  Speaker 5: they sort of played the way they've been playing so far.
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  Speaker 5: I get no takeaways when you're down ten to nothing
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  Speaker 5: against that team. A team's not going to give you
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  Speaker 5: the ball very much unless they're strained. So after they
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  Speaker 5: didn't have a turnover in the first half, didn't surprise,
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  Speaker 5: and he didn't have one in the second because they're
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  Speaker 5: just not going to give you anything press. Taylor mentioned
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  Speaker 5: it last week that at least they'd been turning the
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  Speaker 5: ball over on the other side of the fifty and
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  Speaker 5: putting the defense in good situation. I think a BYuT
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  Speaker 5: the first series of that game, Logan Cook has a rare,
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  Speaker 5: just okay punt. All of a sudden, the four Nitas
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  Speaker 5: had to go sixty yards in their first drive instead
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  Speaker 5: of eighty. Everything sort of conspired a little bit against
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  Speaker 5: the defense, and then in the second half you're down ten.
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  Speaker 5: The win sort of goes out of your sales with
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  Speaker 5: the Christian Kirk turnover, and I think it just so
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  Speaker 5: sort of went I guess Haywire a little bit. I don't.
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  Speaker 5: I think this defense will be fine moving forward if
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  Speaker 5: the offense can give it field position help, not putting
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  Speaker 5: them in bad situations. So again, I just don't worry
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  Speaker 5: about this defense. I don't think it's top five, but
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  Speaker 5: it's going to be good enough all season if the
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  Speaker 5: offense can start getting going.
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  Speaker 4: We talked about the domino effect. Right, the offensive line
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  Speaker 4: didn't pulled up very well, so then Trevor started panicking,
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  Speaker 4: and the same thing on the defensive side. You took
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  Speaker 4: two body blows early right and then of course two
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  Speaker 4: more when your offense goes three and out, you just
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  Speaker 4: the defense was part of that whole just cascade down
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  Speaker 4: here yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: Which happens as we've all seen before. We've all seen
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  Speaker 5: this team over the years, where the defense plays plays
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  Speaker 5: plays office, you can't get it going and then all of
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  Speaker 5: a sudden's the blow out the other way. That hasn't
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  Speaker 5: happened in a while because it's been better around here.
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  Speaker 5: But that felt like that to me defensively in the
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  Speaker 5: second half.
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  Speaker 4: And it's funny how perception becomes reality. Option is Devin
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  Speaker 4: Lloyd right on that one play where Greg Kittle beat him,
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  Speaker 4: But he'd been playing so well, right and he had
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  Speaker 4: that one play and if you watch it closely, Kittle
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  Speaker 4: has a really subtle little push off and and Devin
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  Speaker 4: lost his balance and by the way, that was a
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  Speaker 4: heage hook shot of a the pockets collapsing. He just
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  Speaker 4: throws it up and Kittle's right there.
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  Speaker 5: The NFL is, they're such a weird game. The forty
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  Speaker 5: nine Ers were the dominant team yesterday. There's no question
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  Speaker 5: about it. The first forty nine Ers touchdown probably shouldn't
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  Speaker 5: have happened, right It was up in the air for it,
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  Speaker 5: threw the ball back to the middle of the field.
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  Speaker 5: Both field goals in the second half snuck in, I
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  Speaker 5: mean in the first half sort of snuck in. And
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  Speaker 5: then the Kittle touchdown. Trayvon Walker has a great rush.
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  Speaker 5: They collapsed the pocket and again you just sort of
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  Speaker 5: throw to make a play. Credit to him, they made
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  Speaker 5: a play.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: But that's the game of Inch's element in the NFL
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  Speaker 5: that if maybe one of those goes different. The problem
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  Speaker 5: was the Jaguars offense. You know, did you ever get
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  Speaker 5: a feeling outside of maybe the Christian Kirk passed to
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  Speaker 5: Etna didn't quite work. Did you ever get the feeling
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  Speaker 5: they were close to popping a big play? It just
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  Speaker 5: never Somebody said to me in the press box, it
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  Speaker 5: feels like the fours had. It feels like the forty
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  Speaker 5: have fourteen guys playing defense. And that's what it felt like.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, on the on the pass play that
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  Speaker 4: Travaria's ward knocked away from Christian Kirk, you had Calvin Ridley, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: wide open. I mean it was That's an example of
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  Speaker 4: something Trevor forced it where he was, where he was comfortable,
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  Speaker 4: who he trusted, and he missed the wide open easy score.
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  Speaker 4: That was the day it was difficult. They made it
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  Speaker 4: harder on themselves with bad decisions.
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  Speaker 1: Up next week eleven, the Tennessee Titans come to town
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  Speaker 1: here at EverBank Stadium, and it's the first meeting between
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  Speaker 1: these two. They'll meet again in week eighteen to wrap
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  Speaker 1: up the regular season up in Nashville. Of course, the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars swept the Titans last year. Kai but so different Titans.
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  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, new quarterback in there, the running
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  Speaker 1: backs getting older. He's sti putting up some numbers, but
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  Speaker 1: that's about all they have these days. It feels like
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  Speaker 1: on the offensive side, and they've got a couple of
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  Speaker 1: names you recognize on defense, but it's kind of a
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  Speaker 1: transitioning organization with a new GM and everything involved there.
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  Speaker 3: And Mike Frable is always dangerous. That's why the Titans
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  Speaker 3: are always the team you know, preseason we're talking about
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  Speaker 3: that's going to be a problem at the end the
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  Speaker 3: end of the year, no matter what, whether they're dealing
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  Speaker 3: with injuries or elsewise, very Able will get them to
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  Speaker 3: a point where they're going to be competitive. If we're
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  Speaker 3: they're going to have one of those bounce back games
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  Speaker 3: where they play terrible and then you know, bounce back.
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  Speaker 3: This would be a good time to have that, especially
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  Speaker 3: when you have the Titans and then the Texans immediately
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  Speaker 3: after that on the road. So it'll say a lot
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  Speaker 3: about this team, and it'll say a lot about their focus,
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  Speaker 3: and it'll probably have a bigger impact then we may
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  Speaker 3: have thought on the schedule going forward for the rest
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  Speaker 3: of the year, because if you falter in that game,
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  Speaker 3: then the division's really up for grabs in that Texans game,
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  Speaker 3: and that's a entirely different place than we were maybe
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  Speaker 3: three weeks ago.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I would have been a little stressed by
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  Speaker 4: the hamstring injury to Tyson Campbell. He's problematic because you
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  Speaker 4: see DeAndre Hopkins over there, and you know what Will
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  Speaker 4: Levis was able to do just chucking the ball up
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  Speaker 4: and Hopkins had three touchdowns against the Falcons. Did you
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  Speaker 4: see the video of Hopkins just kind of yawning through
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  Speaker 4: the post game yesterday. He's just sort of nonchalant, like, yeah, whatever,
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  Speaker 4: you know, twenty to six we lost. He went there
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  Speaker 4: to play with Ryan Tannehill and Derek Henry at a
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  Speaker 4: defense that was healthy and be a contender, and he
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  Speaker 4: looks bored by it all transitions to the best way
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  Speaker 4: to describe them. Although you know Vrabel came in here
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  Speaker 4: last year with the team they had lost six in
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  Speaker 4: a row and Joshua Dobbs, who all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it looks like the second coming. But if
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  Speaker 4: the Jaguars come out hungry, the sense of urgency, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I used the term desperate. I asked Ug Peterson in
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  Speaker 4: the postgame news conference yesterday, should your team play desperate?
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  Speaker 4: And he didn't. He didn't like that. He said, that's
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  Speaker 4: not a desperate team. That's a good team that did
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  Speaker 4: what they do well. But if they come out and
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  Speaker 4: they play hungry, they should beat the Titans on Sunday.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm always the first person to say you always
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  Speaker 5: have to be aware of the Titans because they know
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  Speaker 5: how they play under Varibel, the Jaguars will win this
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  Speaker 5: game because right now they're better than the Titans. But
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  Speaker 5: that doesn't always matter. So the way this team played
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  Speaker 5: on Sunday, you can't play that way. But this matchup
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  Speaker 5: should be one that they win if they play well,
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  Speaker 5: and they should set up a big time game the.
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  Speaker 1: Following week, no doubt about that. This week it's the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars and the Titans at EverBank Stadium one o'clock kickoff
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  Speaker 1: time this Sunday. Kay Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Osher, I'm
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  Speaker 1: JP Shadwick. Thank you for listening to The Jaguars Reporter.