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Miller & Condon 5-22-26 · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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All right, good afternoon. Welcome, Miller and Condon on a
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Friday. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
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Network. Ken Miller solo for the next
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couple of hours. It's Trent Scott, the day off
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today, getting a little medical attention to that shoulder that
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he's been bothering him over the last week.
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So I will get you through the next couple of hours.
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In the next few minutes, our good friend, my good friend Bama
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Bob, who joins us during the football season.
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Well, there's no football season for me this year, so Bama's
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going to spend a little time here doing some of the stories
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that are percolating in college football.
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At about 10 minutes or so after after the noon hour, look
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forward to catching up with Bama.
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We'll do that. Mike Palm's going to join me at
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about 12:30, Off to Vegas we will go.
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The latest on Behind the COUNTER with Mike Palm, what he saw last
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night in the NHL, in the NBA. We'll do that.
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Some baseball stuff. And obviously, the contests have
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been announced and the contests are open, open in there
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accepting entries into Survivor, Million Millions and
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Grandissimo. So Mike Palm coming up here at
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12:30. If we have time in the first
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hour, we'll do the chicken coop contest.
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If not, we'll put that in our number three.
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I mean, our number 2, I beg your pardon, guessing that that's
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probably going to happen just before we slide out of here at
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1:55 or thereabouts. So we will do the chicken coop
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at some time in our number 2. Tom Kaker will kick it off on
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Iowa and then Eugene repay on Iowa State.
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I saw Eugene's piece in the paper yesterday pursuant to the
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Seihawk game, that contract coming to an end in 2027 when I
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saw the headlines. I don't mind this ominous.
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I don't want this game to ever end.
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I love the game. I know that a lot of you don't,
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but I think it's fantastic for the state.
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I hope it never ends. I hope they play it every single
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year. And if I could wave my magic
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wand, if both teams are somehow in a spot to play in a bowl game
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despite having the fact they played in the regular season,
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I'm all for that as well. So that's the show here today.
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No picks at the end of it, as Trent is.
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I don't think he's going to send anything along.
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If he does, we'll read those on the air, his plays of the day.
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So Bam and Bob coming up. But I have a couple of minutes
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and and luckily Connor Ferguson is with me in studio today.
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He's behind the class doing the producing of the show, but very
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timely on his part with the passing.
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We don't do a lot of ton of NASCAR on the show, but we do
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have the NASCAR guy in the building sitting what 15 feet
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away from me. So why wouldn't I bring him in?
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So obviously this was 41 years old is, I mean, you don't have
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to tell anybody this, which is crazy that it's happened.
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It's awful. He's got two young boys and he
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raced last weekend. And then you saw the tweets
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earlier in the day yesterday that it started to sound more
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ominous as the day went on. Connor, that's how I first saw
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of it and I saw it. And I mean, there were people
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that were in the industry that would then respond to those
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tweets or put on a tweet of their own, kind of making it
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feel like he's probably not going to make it.
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When did you first become aware of it and what have you heard,
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if if anything? Yeah, so he's got a a young son
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named Braxton and the daughter I just wanted.
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To oh son and the daughter. Yeah, Lennox is the daughter's
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name and they had her actually through IVF and he's a huge
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propone, a huge voice in that space.
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And I think they have a foundation going on right now
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that people are donating to. I'll find the name of it to say
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later, But yeah, obviously you hear out for the weekend and
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it's not good when it's an illness.
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And we're saying that on, you know, what, yesterday was
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Thursday, that he's not going to race on Sunday.
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So that's never a good sign. But I'm in a journal group chat,
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I guess, with a bunch of journalists in the NASCAR space.
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And I think around 2:30 or so, we kind of got a message that
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was like, I, I heard something that's not good.
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I don't know the accuracy of it, so I won't put it in here.
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And I'm, yeah, I'm kind of sitting here thinking like, wow,
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that doesn't sound great. I wonder what that could be.
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And you, you know, you you watch Kyle Busch along his career.
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And I don't think anyone's invincible.
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But if anyone was, it'd be that guy.
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And then another message kind of trickled in about an hour later
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along the same lines. And then I started to kind of
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get worried. And as quickly as you know, some
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of the unfortunately, you know that rumor was out there
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probably 3 fifty 4:00-ish and NASCAR put it up at 4:41, so.
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Was he a good? Was he a fan favorite?
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Yeah, I think so. I think he was.
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I think he commanded attention more than any driver that I've
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ever covered ever seen in my life.
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Why? Kyle had a way of no matter what
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he was doing, whether you hated it or whether you loved what he
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was saying and what he was sticking up for, that eyeballs
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went to Kyle Busch. And beyond that, he backed up on
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the race track better than any driver I've ever seen.
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That's running his mouth as much as Kyle was back in the day.
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Along with that he's been he was under the spotlight since before
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he was 18. Since that they NASCAR had to
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put in the first of multiple Kyle Busch rules.
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They had to make so that he couldn't race a truck when he
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was 16 years old. And once he eventually got
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there, you know, straight away, I think one of his first in what
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is now the O'Reilly series. But what one of his first wins,
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he they got a guitar that was like hand painted by Sam Bass, a
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really well known artist in the Motorsports landscape.
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In this guitar he got for winning the race at Nashville.
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He smashed it all over the ground in Victory Lane.
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And so from day one, there's people, you know, that hated
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that. There's people that loved it.
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You know, it was, you know, like the epitome of Kyle's career was
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he's going to do something, you're going to hate it, you're
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going to love it. But.
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Kind of a lightning ride type of type of driver, huh?
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Absolutely. Yeah, and but but could back it
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up and had a ton of ability. You won a lot of races.
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So I know nothing about it. I don't follow the sport.
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So that's why I'm deferring to you.
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His, I mean, here I probably wouldn't have brought it up.
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Yeah, no, you're good. So Richard Petty had two hundred
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wins in his career across the three series.
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Kyle Busch finished with 234. Wow.
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It won't. I don't think that record will
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ever be changed. And would he have got there?
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Well, he got he got to 2:34. I don't know what number he was
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ever focusing on for the end of his career, but he did have a
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quote after his last one. And he said he was asked what
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makes you know a random Truck Series when, as it feels at
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Dover on a Saturday? What makes it, you know, so
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special? And he said, because you never
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know when the last one's going to be.
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Yeah, I get it, I get it. Well, good stuff, Not good stuff
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on his part, but obviously a lot of people I shook up about the
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answer. Thank you for that, Connor.
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I appreciate you coming on. All right, Bama, Bob coming on
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here momentarily. We will get to Bama lined up.
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In fact, we are as we speak. Just a couple of notes from
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yesterday that the Cavs, they, they had their opportunity,
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right? This is, this is goes back for a
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couple of days and game #1 how you blow that lead.
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How are you going to be able to pick yourself up and, and
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perform in Game 2 knowing that you let game, you choked away.
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That's what they did. They choked away game #1 sure,
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fatigue playing a factor, but God sakes you're up 22 for
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crying out loud with with 7 minutes or so left in the in the
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basketball game. The hockey has been
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unbelievable. The two teams that most thought,
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myself included, were just going to.
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It's inevitable. Let's just get through this
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round. Let's get Colorado and Carolina
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for all the marbles because these are the two best teams
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playing ball. Hold everything because Vegas is
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now up one game to nothing. And Montreal, this young hockey
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team, as young as the team as there is in the in the NHL, they
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are so quick and they are so skilled and I don't think that
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they realize the stage that they're on.
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Montreal is giving Carolina all they want.
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I know Carolina had a long layoff, but man, the Canadians
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looked unbelievable last night. I'm not so sure.
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Well, I think one of the favourites will ultimately
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prevail, I think. I don't know which one.
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I really don't. Kel Mccarr's not going to play
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again tonight for Caroline. Let's get Bama Bob in here, as
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we mentioned, see if we can play his music if he got his music.
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Connor, it's not a show with Alda Bama's music.
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Give me 20 seconds. I can't find Sweet home Alabama.
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Don't play it. I don't know.
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Keep on hold for 20 seconds. Hey Bama, how are you?
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I'm doing great, boy. Out of sight, out of mind, huh?
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Yeah, you know what it is, right?
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So they forget about you very quickly around here.
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Well, I don't Bam. And I'm appreciative of what
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you've done. So just for our audience out
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there, my final week is I think the 13th of June through the
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19th of June. Then I got a couple of days the
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following week and Trent happens to be off that entire week
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beforehand. So what I'm going to do in in in
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addition to our, you know, our normal Monday to my normal
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trend, I'm normal Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
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Friday. I'm going to reach back and even
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if it hasn't happened to be the season, I'm going to reach out
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to guests that I've had on over the years just to thank them.
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And of course, one of those guys is joining me right now.
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And this does not, this is not preclude you by the way, Bama,
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of joining me on that final week because as you do 1:00 on
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Fridays, you know how I feel about the segment.
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I think it's my favorite segment throughout the entire year about
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Fridays to preview and Mondays to recap.
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I love college football. I didn't grow up with college
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football. And when I really kind of grasp
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college football, it was very apparent to me, Oh my God, what
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was I missing? And just how good it is.
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And I've enjoyed our conversations for 25 years.
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And as I'm going to do with, you know, a lot of my guests, I'm
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going to do some of the bigger stories, right?
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The time that we've been on the air, you know, I'm going to I'll
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throw this one out to you right now.
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Not that I want you to answer today, just, you know, one or
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two of the more impactful college, like a Tebow, for
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instance, right? If we put that out there, top
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five impactful college football players during our discussion
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period on the air, Johnny Manziel, right?
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Yeah, those of them, I'm guessing we're going to see a
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lot of SC because then there's another SEC quarterback that
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pops up into my Gene Chesit coached.
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But we'll save that for for another day.
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So I guess the big story Bama that's that's been in the news
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over the last, I don't know, a couple of weeks is the playoff
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expansion. We're at 12 now.
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It seems like the Big 10 joined by the ACC and the Big 12 are
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all fine with expanding the playoffs to 24.
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I'm of the camp that I don't think it's going to minimize the
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regular season in any way because I think it's going to
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make those for seeding purposes, a game in November between, you
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know, two teams that look as though they're ticketed for an 8
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and four type of finish. They're going to be playing
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first for seeding. And so I don't think it's going
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to diminish. But what are your thoughts and
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is 24 the right number in your mind?
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No, I listen and I'm old school. I'm kind of wondering if you
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want to equate it. I'm a small Hall kind of guy
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like that. When we get like talk about Hall
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of Fame or you know, or whatever and you know, Mike Schmidt,
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Johnny Bennett shows those are Hall of farmers to me, you know,
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CC Sebastian, maybe not, but I like listen, I am OK with 12
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right now. What I think what I would like
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to see happen with 12 is you play the, you know, the
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semifinals in the, in the, in the championship game are are in
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bowl games. Everything else is on campus,
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right? And we saw that last year.
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So, you know, one of the top 8 seeds, while I'm having to go, I
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can't remember who it was, had to wind up and go play, you
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know, basically a rogue game in a bowl.
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Whereas if if, if they had been if they if we had them playing a
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home game, you know, they it would have been a better
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situation. But this is where it was always
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going to go. I thought it would cap at 16,
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the 24. I mean, it's kind of like the
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NCAA basketball tournament. Do we really need 76?
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Are we really going to fight now over 7677 and 78?
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Well, Trent, you know, can that, Yeah.
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I mean, can can the 16th team win a no?
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Can they win for the, let's say, the the 24th team?
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Can they win a national championship?
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I don't think so. I think it's not.
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It's obviously all about money and.
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It is all about money and it's it's going to listen.
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The SEC Championship game used to mean something.
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Are they going away, by the way, do you think?
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They have to they either, they either have to go away because
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how could you how if you go to 24?
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I haven't even done the math. I mean, is that five playoff
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games that you're going to have to win?
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You know, it will be at least four.
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Everybody's had to play at least 4 right now.
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You know, the the top, the buys, you know, you don't have to win
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three. Everybody's going to have to win
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four. Somebody else is going to have
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to play 5. How in the hell are you going to
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keep? Are you going to have a 12 game
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regular season? No, that's an 18 game season and
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it's it's too much. I think it's over saturation and
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I understand gambling and ratings and all this kind of
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stuff. I think it is over saturation.
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Again, this is just me. I'm 61.
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I'm the get off of my yard guy, you know, but I think 12 is
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fine. Okay, I could I could accept
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1624. To me, we're going to be talking
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about 8 and four versus, you know, a big 10.
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You know, I don't, you know, pick Missouri over oh man, I
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always start to say Indiana, but that's they've changed that
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narrative a little bit old miss Yeah, over Illinois or something
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like, I mean, come on. I mean, really, who cares
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outside of those fan bases? So I I think it's just over
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saturation. I think it's going to diminish
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the conference championship games, which to me always been a
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big deal. I love I mean the Alabama,
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Georgia, the Georgia Tex. I mean, it means something and
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it those teams now you just why, why would you really if you're
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going to have to play, if you go to 16 and it sounds like this is
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like a big hang up now it's either going to be 12 or 24.
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The SEC does not want to go to 24 and everybody else doesn't
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want 16. So that's going to be an
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interesting dynamic to see who wins this because the Big 10 all
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of a sudden the last few years is kind of taking over as the
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big dog, you know, in terms of national championships.
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But I don't like it. But that's just me.
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I'm OK with 16 and let's just let's make it an even 4.
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But it doesn't that that doesn't really reward, you know, by
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weeks and regular season and that kind of thing.
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But I think it is going to kill the conference championship
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games. And I think that's a shame.
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And I just think I think we're going to get into arguments over
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teams that really have absolutely no shot at winning a
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national championship, getting into a playoff.
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And let's face it, Ken, what do we used to do?
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We argued over 4 versus 5 versus 6, and then we argued over 8
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versus 9 versus 10. And now we're arguing over 12
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versus 13 versus we're going to argue over 24 versus 25 versus
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26. And it's just, it's, it's just,
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it's too much for me. You know, it's fair.
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That's a fairpoint. You're certainly not alone in
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that. The the thing that I like about
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it is, is the fact that I mean, fingers crossed, right?
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It's going to happen for Alabama and your friends.
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You're going to get a game at home, a playoff game at home.
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I would love to see one at Kennick.
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I would love to see one at Jack Trucks just you know, the the TV
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trucks and the lights going on and and a playoff.
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Game right here. Cold weather outdoors, right?
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Absolutely. I'm I'm yeah, I agree with that.
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Totally agree, Fairpoint. Yeah, but that's selfish that
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that's selfish on my part. Since we're on the bull topic,
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Bama, there was an announcement that was made that that I'm glad
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I clicked on it because I'm when I saw Poinsettia Bowl, I
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thought, what am I stopping here for?
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But but then when I did and what I saw what the PAC 12 is going
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to do when it comes to the Poinsetti Bowl.
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And, you know, but you and I are both in our 60s.
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We both kind of love, you know, nostalgia and the Wayback
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Machine. And as I say many times, you
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know, seemingly once a week now, I, I, I can't believe that the
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newspaper doesn't show up at my door every day.
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So I love those type of things. But when I saw what the
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Poinsetti Bowl is going to do and what they're going to do,
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they're going to invite the PAC 12 champion, their new PAC 12
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champion, which is a lot of Mountain West teams, obviously
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in the Oregon State and the Washington State and the Boise
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State and etcetera, etcetera. And the team from the former PAC
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12 will then play each other. So an old PAC 12 school, either
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one now that's in the Big 10 or the Big 12 or the ACC in some
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cases, to play an existing PAC 12 game.
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I like that idea. Bama, what about you?
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No. I love it.
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I absolutely love it. I just you know, when is is the
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playoffs now going to take away those teams?
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You know that they. Some of the bulls will go away,
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yeah. Some of them, yeah.
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Yeah, so. But you're right.
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And, you know, OK, fine. So we get to, you know, we get
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to 16 or 24, whatever it is. We've listen, bowl games are
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already been diminished. We've seen that, right?
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And they're going to be diminished even further once you
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dilute the field even more. I like the idea.
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I hope they can pull it off. I hope the the two teams that
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they invite will want to play, assuming they're not part of the
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playoff field. Listen, you got to do something
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to try to make your game relevant, right?
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And if you can get a a a regional matchup like that, and
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that's that's what I like. I mean, you know, if you're
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going to have, you know, I don't know, Boise State and you know,
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Arizona, you know, play each other, OK.
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I mean, that's that's a ball game that would interest me as a
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fan, you know, outside of the gambling and all other kind.
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Of and the point set a bull is San Diego, right?
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It is right. So it's a it's a great
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destination. I mean, why wouldn't you?
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Why wouldn't you want to go to a ball game really, Diego?
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I mean, I can think of no reason why you wouldn't want to,
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especially in you know, December, January, whenever it's
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going to be. So I I do like the idea.
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I hope they can pull it off. I hope the teams that you know,
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that that are eligible, that they invite, of course, you
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know, will go if they're outside of the playoffs and you know, we
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don't get into this year. You see a lot of teams now just
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declining bowl goods because they've got to start recruiting
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their rosters again. And that really is that to me is
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a big thing because of the transfer portal.
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Whole other topic. That's one of our topics.
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Biggest story? But let's do.
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It and get to June but yeah, I just I just think that I'd like
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the idea you've got to do something you have to do or try
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something to make these bowl games relevant to the to the
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casual fan right to the end to the the eyeballs for the TV
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partners ratings all we all know where it really boils down to.
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So I hope I like the idea. I like the concept I hope it
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works because I mean you got to do something because the more
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playoff games you'd get which I hope includes more games on
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campus. Oh, has to, has to, right?
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Absolutely has to. These these other, these non
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playoff bowl games are just they're going to struggle.
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They're going to struggle for eyeballs for relevance.
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They'll always have the gambling aspect.
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You always have that. So, but I don't, I don't know
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how that's going to equate to revenue for the for the TV
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partners and all that type of thing.
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We only have a couple of minutes left.
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Bama, who's the hottest seat in college football coaching wise?
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I go back to the end of last year and I thought I saw a
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report that Mike Locksley was fired and I think I said it on
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our Monday show and you and you both corrected me.
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So his his seat has to be hot. Is there another one?
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Am I am I missing? Am I mean Miranda, Bob Baylor
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maybe? Who's got the hottest seat in
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college football? I mean, Mike Norville, OK, you
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know, I mean, he had a good bounce back.
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Yeah, well, good start, I guess, till last year, you know, from
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the 2 and 10. But, you know, I just think
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there's just not a lot of momentum there, in my opinion,
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at Florida State now they got a big one again out of the chute.
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They open in Tuscaloosa this year, which is a return game.
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And you've seen a lot of these games like I think they had a
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home in home with Georgia fall off because of the new 9 game
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SEC schedule, which I hate by the way.
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I I mean, Florida State and Georgia, come on, you know,
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regional rivals, I mean. So we're losing that one.
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That's too bad. We're losing that one, Yeah.
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And, and so I think Norvell is, you know, Trent's favorite Luke
21:39
Fickle at Wisconsin. That's a good.
21:41
One be on a hot seat. But I mean, do they care?
21:45
That's that to me is the big question at Wisconsin.
21:48
Do they care? Because he has done absolutely
21:51
nothing since he's been there. It's been a, you know, they
21:54
just, they have flipped from what the identity of that team
21:57
used to. Be they used to be they used to
21:58
be a factor every year, Bammy, you always had to.
22:01
Every year, Every year, right and and and you know, and the
22:05
style of play, you know, with Alvarez and and Bilma, you know,
22:08
they just beat you up and these big 360 LB line that's just gone
22:13
now and and I don't so but. Running back to would run
22:17
through. You yes, and just think about,
22:19
you know, Ron Dane and and I mean I'm losing a lot of them in
22:22
in the mix, but I mean just go back and look, you know,
22:25
Jonathan Taylor, I mean like, you know, or you know, whoever I
22:27
mean whoever, it's just that he he has Monty.
22:32
Ball. Oh yeah, he has to be on the hot
22:35
seat, but I just wonder if they really care so.
22:38
That's that's the answer. That's the answer.
22:41
Yeah, I think it's got to be fickle.
22:43
But again, do they care? Do they care enough in Madison
22:46
to to really pull the trigger and can they eat a buyout up
22:49
there? I don't know.
22:50
I don't know what the situation is up there.
22:52
Mm hmm. Hey, Runway, real quick one.
22:55
I don't spend a lot of time in North Dakota State, but they
22:58
they play, they play the Hawks, they play the the Cyclones over
23:01
the years they played K State, et cetera.
23:03
They're moving from FC as you know, they're moving from the
23:06
FCS to the FBS. They're going to the Mountain
23:08
West. There's a lot of people that
23:10
think they're going to struggle. I'm not one of them.
23:13
I mean, there's a lot of big, strong farm boys in North
23:15
Dakota, right? These guys are always, they're
23:18
always underrated or they're overlooked when they play those
23:22
schools. I know it's the Mountain West
23:23
end of North Dakota State, but I think they're going to fit right
23:26
in. What am I?
23:26
Where am I wrong? No, I don't think so.
23:29
I mean just you have to look at the track record, right?
23:32
I mean and it's sustained success.
23:34
I know it's against FCS competition, but I mean they if
23:39
memory serves, they've knocked off a couple of big boys point
23:42
where they don't get scheduled by the big boys anymore.
23:44
I mean they don't know part of them, right.
23:47
So, and again, you know, and when you go to Division One now
23:51
it's going to come back to nil. I don't know what their, I don't
23:54
know what their budget is up there, but I, I got to think
23:56
they're. What else?
23:57
Where else you going to spend your?
23:58
Money, not a lot of competition in North Dakota for for for nil
24:03
dollars, so they might have to upgrade the the roster a little
24:06
bit, recruit a little more. I have no idea what their, you
24:08
know, recruiting, you know, path is, but it Carson Wentz went
24:11
there. Is that right?
24:12
Yes, I remember right. So I mean, you know, they've had
24:15
some guys up there. Who's the other?
24:18
One Trey Lance, he missed the year of COVID.
24:20
Trey Lance, yeah, Remember, he didn't play the COVID year and
24:22
it obviously. Killed.
24:23
That's right. Killed his opportunity to play
24:25
in the NFL. That's right.
24:27
I, I think you're right. So yeah, I, I think they will.
24:30
I'm not saying they're going to win the league.
24:31
I think they'll be successful right out of the gate and I
24:34
think they're going to wreak a little bit of havoc in that
24:37
conference. That's a good fit for them.
24:39
I agree. I think I agree man.
24:40
Where else he can spend your money go to go to Grand Forks
24:43
for the for the weekend. Right.
24:46
Exactly. Take a drive to Winnipeg.
24:48
Well, I've driven the other way many times.
24:51
Winnipeg, the G Forks and Intifargo.
24:53
I'm going to the States for the weekend.
24:55
Look at me. Good stuff.
24:57
Bama, June 19th, 1:00 Lock it in.
25:00
The calendar pal. Good stuff.
25:02
We'll go down memory lane for the last time and I can't, well,
25:07
I can wait, but it'll be fun. It'll be kind of, you know, kind
25:10
of emotional at the same time because we've, we've done a lot.
25:13
Of. Good stuff pal.
25:15
Enjoy the weekend. Thanks Bama Bob for jumping on.
25:17
Appreciate it. Always can.
25:19
Take care bud. Good.
25:20
To talk to you, Bama Bob, as we talked a little college football
25:23
in the offseason with my good friend Bama Bob.
25:27
All right, we'll take a time out.
25:28
Head to Vegas. I catch you up with Mike Palm,
25:31
VP of operations at Circus Sports.
25:34
We did have a winner in the building in this nationwide
25:37
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25:39
The boys in the afternoon came off the bench, gave the keyword,
25:43
one of their audience members typed it into their website and
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25:51
do so. Head to your station's website,
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25:56
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Your chance to win $1000 in this nationwide contest.
26:11
Mike Palm scheduled to join me next Vegas conversation.
26:15
When I come back, Miller and Condon talking sports with you
26:19
on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
26:35
Hi, welcome back, Miller and Condon.
26:37
Just past 12:30 on a Friday. Hour number two, Tom Caker.
26:41
Eugene Repay. We'll do our chicken coop
26:43
contest as well. Let's head to Vegas.
26:45
VP of Operations. He's Mike Palm, and he joins me.
26:48
Hello, Mike Palm, how are you? Good morning, Kenny.
26:51
How are you? I'm.
26:52
OK. I saw you've already got an
26:53
entry in one of the contests and I think it's the second straight
26:56
year that the first entry in either million Survivor and
26:59
Grandissimo is $100,000. Buy into Grandissimo.
27:03
You're on the board, Mike Palm. Yeah, we're on the board.
27:07
I think we're, I think we did the grandissimo with Ian Richie
27:10
again by the 1st entry. And then I think Jeff said we're
27:15
about 30 other entries so far between the two.
27:18
So between the two other contests, also a good start.
27:21
Yeah, let's talk about the guarantees.
27:23
Obviously the Survivor, that's the one most people play, goes
27:25
from 15 to 20 million. You approach that number last
27:29
year as far as because you put every dollar back in, there's no
27:32
rake. You guys, if you take in $1000,
27:35
none of that $1000 goes to Circa.
27:37
It goes right into the contest. Do you anticipate you'll get
27:40
past that number? But this year, obviously you
27:42
must because that's where you've taken set the bar for the
27:45
guarantee. Yeah, I think we'll get past 20
27:50
million. We went you know, if you look at
27:52
the history of it, we went from a million to you know to four to
27:56
6 to 8 to 10 to 14 to 18, seven last year.
28:01
So I would suspect that we'll get in 21 or 22 million for the
28:07
survivor that the to me the, the biggest question mark is grand
28:11
DC mode. Does it take off?
28:13
Where does it go from the 6.9 million that we had last year?
28:17
We guaranteed 4 just to make it even. 3026 for the 1,000,004 for
28:22
grandissimo. But I would be surprised if it
28:24
doesn't double Kenny. Well, that was kind of the
28:27
talker last year, right, is how many people are really going to
28:29
enter this. That's a lot of money, blah,
28:31
blah, blah. And I think the overrun, you
28:33
were around 30, Mike, if if memory serves, that was the
28:36
number you and obviously, I think everybody's expectations
28:40
were blown away. You had 69 kind of without even
28:43
trying, right? Yeah, well, I mean, it was the
28:47
first year. So how much brand awareness was
28:51
there? I, yeah, when we got to 11 by
28:58
August 1st, I felt good because then people knew there it would
29:01
be a pool and they wouldn't have to worry about, yeah, I'm going
29:04
to put in 100,000 and there, you know, there's, I can only win
29:07
1,000,000, 1/2 or 2 million. So I think at that point I felt
29:11
good. It was just getting that little
29:13
bit of momentum as we saw a few trickle in in June and July and
29:17
then in late July it started to pick up.
29:18
So I think now people know it was 6.9 last year.
29:22
There's No Fear that it's going to be be tiny.
29:25
And usually if something successful, it grows the most
29:27
between year one or two or year 2 and 3.
29:30
I know that with the with the Westgate being taken over by
29:34
Caesar's, that can't hurt your contest, correct?
29:37
Because we don't know what Caesar's wants to do.
29:40
And and yes, the Westgate would dip their tone a little bit to
29:42
to they wouldn't come close to, you know, cutting into your
29:45
business, at least I don't think, but to what business it
29:48
did. It's got to come your way I
29:50
would assume, right? Well, yeah, right.
29:52
I think it's a, it's a tailwind for us.
29:54
And, and just we've known Caesar's hasn't been apartment
29:57
to run contests. And so in other words, they had
30:01
some Survivor from last year, right?
30:03
And they and they had their traditional super contest that
30:07
you know, so it may be some folks will migrate over or some
30:12
that did both will just consolidate their entries into
30:15
Circa. Yeah, makes sense.
30:17
So, so when you guys are in the boardroom throughout the year,
30:20
when the the survivors been awarded, you passed out the
30:22
checks, you've had the awards banquet and you start looking
30:25
ahead to this year. Obviously we're waiting for the
30:27
schedule to become finalized, become official before you could
30:30
ultimately decide what we you were going to do.
30:33
Could you take us into maybe some of the more not spirited
30:36
discussions, but maybe some of the more back and forth and
30:39
ultimately were there major tweaks that were talked about
30:42
that didn't get implemented? Take us kind of behind that,
30:46
behind those scenes, if you would.
30:49
Well, I do want to mention that the Max number of entries in the
30:52
1,000,000 is now 10, so it matches survivors.
30:55
So folks that wanted to do more than 5 entries in the millions
30:58
can do that. What was debated was the
31:02
guarantee amount that there was an argument for no guarantees.
31:07
There was an argument to go to 35 and do 21/8 and 621,000,000
31:17
per and then Derek just thought the 20 and 30 was was a better
31:20
number, it would be more marketable.
31:24
The other real debate was about the Friday game for the contest
31:27
for the holiday week. Whether that.
31:29
Black. Steelers game on Black Friday,
31:32
would we put it with 12A or 12B? Because you still had four
31:35
games, one Wednesday and three Thursday, and that weekend is
31:38
very tough. There's only two teams that are
31:40
favored by 5 or more, although that's not a great gaming right
31:43
now. It's lined at 1 1/2, right?
31:45
Because Denver's on the road. I, I, Jeff Benson and I were
31:50
started and they can't leave it with 12 B and let the four games
31:53
stand. So you'll have 4 Thanksgiving
31:55
and four on Christmas. But Derek wanted to include it
31:58
with the with the Wednesday and Thursday game.
32:00
Yeah. And he made the point that when
32:02
you get to Week 12 B, which is the Sunday slash Monday slate of
32:06
Thanksgiving weekend, it's really difficult.
32:10
I mean, if you're going to play in Survivor, not only do you
32:13
need to, like in the past, look ahead to Thanksgiving slash
32:16
Christmas. Now I think you got to look
32:18
ahead to 12 B because there's no quote lay up in there, I don't
32:22
think, Mike. I don't think there's any layup
32:26
either. There's like 3 weeks where
32:29
there's only one or two. Big favorite things change too,
32:32
Kenny. Sure.
32:32
Injuries schedule, we said all, all the games on Thanksgiving
32:36
are going to be pick or one or two and end up Baltimore with a
32:40
nine point favorite and they lost, right.
32:42
So sometimes you play the game the way it's supposed to and it
32:45
doesn't work out. Yeah, that's that was fat,
32:48
didn't everybody? Wasn't there a whole bunch of
32:50
carnage last Thanksgiving weekend in surviving?
32:53
We went from, we went from 900 to 49 in Survivor and we went
32:57
from, from, I think I don't know whether you had 13 or something
33:04
in, in the great DD moment being over.
33:09
It was over because everybody got eliminated with it.
33:12
They had Philadelphia and they had Baltimore.
33:15
Let's obviously sign ups are going on now and you have to go
33:19
in person, get a proxy. We'll go over those details
33:21
threat and I will repeatedly in the weeks weeks ahead.
33:25
Want to talk NHL with you, Mike. I I'm shocked by the both of the
33:28
results, especially the way Carolina came out and how good
33:32
Montreal just they just out skated them, outplayed them.
33:35
I'm thinking that, you know, a minute into the game, Jarvis
33:37
lights the lamp. Here we go, Carolina.
33:39
But Montreal had other plans. And then Vegas, I don't know if
33:43
it's just not having killed Mccar and they won't again
33:45
tonight. Vegas might get Mark Stone,
33:47
their captain back tonight. Mike, I thought it was just
33:50
let's get past this round. Let's get to Carolina and
33:53
Colorado and let's give us what we think we're going to get.
33:56
I'm not sure sure either of those teams are going to
33:58
advance. How about you?
34:01
Were you? I wasn't so sure before anything
34:03
happened. And I mean.
34:05
Look. Let's start with the overall
34:08
principle of the two big favorites.
34:11
Are you sure that Freddie Anderson is the guy that's going
34:15
to lead Carolina to a Stanley Cup championship?
34:19
I was with him for his first three or four years in Anaheim,
34:22
the last two in Anaheim. Terrible around so terrible.
34:25
And he hasn't been good in Carolina.
34:27
So, and then Scott Wedgwood been a career #2 goalie, is he the
34:32
guy that's going to lead a seat? So that's, that's Tuesday.
34:35
I said earlier today, I said Freddie Anderson is who I
34:38
thought Freddie Anderson was. Now then you talk about a car,
34:43
you cannot underestimate how damaging Mccarby now it is.
34:47
Take Quinn Hughes off the wild and the cars better than Hughes.
34:50
Think about that. He's the best defenseman in the
34:52
world. I mean, I say if he's not
34:55
injured every year, he should win the Norris Trophy.
34:57
They miss that. They miss that offense from the
35:01
blue line and they're not as fast without him.
35:04
And Vegas is not weak down the middle like Minnesota was.
35:07
Vegas is very strong down the middle with their centers and
35:10
it's a professional team, the Stanley Cup winning team.
35:14
It's a team that trusted each other with the Stanley Cup
35:16
winning coach. It's going to be a hard grind
35:18
for Colorado to get through this series.
35:20
So do you in your mind, is Vegas the favorites to win the Cup
35:24
this year? If my car does not return for
35:27
this series, I make Vegas a 6040 chance of winning it.
35:31
If let's say my cards back for game three and he's healthy and
35:34
beyond. I think it's I think it's a
35:36
slight advantage to Colorado. Look, I thought Montreal's best
35:39
shot to win was last night, 2 weeks off.
35:42
No one's ever had two weeks off before in the modern era of
35:44
hockey. I bet Montreal plus 138 first
35:47
period last night, right? And then of course, they score a
35:49
goal 40 seconds in as what am I doing?
35:52
It was interesting, I thought listening to Rob Brenda Moore's
35:55
comments, you know, he said I didn't pull Anderson because
35:59
three of the four goals were on the breakaway.
36:00
If I could have sat every defenseman I had, I would have.
36:02
All right, so that's a legitimate point.
36:05
He also said we weren't prepared for the speed Of Montreal.
36:07
I don't think Montreal that fast for the team.
36:09
What they are is quick with the fuck out of their own zone,
36:12
quick passing, right. I thought Montreal had very
36:15
quick to other than the second period where Carolina hand the
36:18
men and Dobush had to be good. I thought Montreal was very good
36:21
at the breakout. And when have you ever seen a
36:23
team down to go into the third period only get one shot on goal
36:26
in the period? That's unheard of.
36:28
Caroline had one shot the third period.
36:30
That's an excellent point really is in get through, get through
36:33
Game 2 and off to Montreal and it is a different animal up
36:36
there, no doubt about it. What Brett Howden ask if is, is
36:41
Howden healthy? I was just asked to ask you
36:43
this, is Brett Howden healthy do you know?
36:45
As far as far as I haven't heard anything, Kenny, I haven't heard
36:49
anything. So I can't give you any info on.
36:51
It right and stone will he play tonight?
36:52
He's skating. Do you know?
36:53
Does that mean he's going to play?
36:55
I mean, Mccar skated today and he's out.
36:58
I know, I believe we will see Stone tonight.
37:01
I'm 7525 on that. Got you to the NBA.
37:05
The Spurs team fascinates no end and they're not going away.
37:09
Whether they win it this year or not, this team is built for
37:12
they're about to go on, I think anyways, one of those runs with
37:15
a 2221 and a 20 year old leading the way.
37:19
Where are you on the Spurs, Mike?
37:21
OKC, Obviously the series tied up at 1 apiece.
37:25
Well, it's been as high a level of basketball as I remember in
37:30
quite some time. Kenny, watching those first two
37:32
games. I mean when I have my four TV's
37:35
and I'm watching 2 baseball games, Stanley Cup in the NBA,
37:39
it's rare that my attention is on the NBA game.
37:42
But for those games one and two, my eyes were on that game.
37:48
I think Fox and Harper are really troublesome for them.
37:53
I really, I think if those two guys were healthy, I think
37:55
there's a better team. That being said, Oklahoma City
37:58
is really good. They have all these
37:59
interchangeable parts. I think Oklahoma advantage
38:03
Oklahoma City, unless they get both box, I think Fox is going
38:06
to try to go tonight out of the Harper.
38:09
You know, to me, watching Harper play, how did Rutgers never make
38:13
a turn? It's unbelievable.
38:14
If they did 2 lottery picks, those guys must not have got
38:17
along. Those two, those two guys that
38:20
Ace Bailey and Harp, they must not have.
38:22
Yeah. I mean, we watched them play
38:23
plenty in the Big 10. How did they not make it to the
38:26
NCAA tournament? Anyhow, I think both of these
38:29
two teams are here for a long time to come.
38:31
This might be this is like in the decade, like from 80 to
38:35
what? It's a 87.
38:37
It was Lakers, Celtics 5 out of seven years in the finals that
38:40
we might see a run in the next 7 years where it's these two teams
38:43
in the Western Conference finals.
38:46
And by the way, game one was the highest rated conference finals
38:49
game in NBA history. I know there's more people now
38:52
and all that, but that should dispel the method the small
38:55
market teams can't be. No, you kind of remind me of
38:58
about to remind me of Cowboys, Niners in the NFC Championship
39:02
game year after year after year, I think.
39:04
That's well, you know, that whole NFC when when Johnson got
39:07
the Cowboys good, it was this, but it was the whole same
39:10
bracket. It was Cowboys, Eagles, Packers,
39:13
49ers. There was no variation of that.
39:15
It was just that Cowboys 40. It was so same 14 but the Final
39:19
Four was the same every year. The Knicks are going to come out
39:22
of the East. Do they have a chance whoever
39:24
comes out of the West? 0.
39:26
Yeah, I feel the same way. It's fun to watch.
39:29
I'm glad Madison Square Garden's going to have a big event, but.
39:33
Yeah. I can't see it.
39:35
Hey, last thing since you know, we've the schedule's been out
39:38
for a week and you said that when you joined us last week.
39:41
Now that some of the players have the schedule that we know
39:43
who they're playing, but now we know where they're playing in
39:45
the buys, etcetera. Is there an NFL team that's seen
39:47
some some major futures movement this week at your place?
39:51
A. Little bit of Lion, I think
39:55
people didn't realize that, you know, the Vikings won their last
39:59
four games, which got them to three seed in that division and
40:02
the Lions are playing the last play schedule.
40:04
I think people that really came in when you're study the
40:07
schedule and say, my God, the Lions are going to win 14 games,
40:10
right, or something like that. The schedule is that last play
40:12
schedule. So that's been the one team I've
40:15
seen some some movement on. What's Memorial Day weekend like
40:18
in Las Vegas? You guys be busy.
40:21
Pools open, We've been, we've been open, but now all the rest
40:23
of the pools open. So it's a big weekend because
40:25
it's the traditional start of the summer season.
40:27
Here, yeah, Fremont Street got some bands all, I'm guessing,
40:30
most of the weekend. Yeah, yeah, they do.
40:32
They have tonight and tomorrow night some bands.
40:34
So it'll be it'll be good all the way through Monday.
40:36
Absolutely. Will be Mike Baum.
40:37
Thanks mine. Appreciate you coming on.
40:39
We'll talk next week if your schedule allows.
40:41
Thank you, Mike. Thanks.
40:43
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nothing's official. I'm not sure he'll be there or
41:43
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And if you've never stayed downtown, if you stayed in
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Vegas, you, you think that the hotels are right next to each
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other and you just keep walking and walking and walking and it's
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100° outside and it's 110. Whatever it is.
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He's Oh my God, I'm never going to get there.
42:26
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There's, there's no optical illusion, all of the property.
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It's just such a blast. There's three main stages on
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Fremont Street, so there could be a band at one end, a band in
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the middle and a band at the very end.
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And this, they bring in some major talents during the summer
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months. I never thought I'd want to stay
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at Fremont Street, never did. I was a strip snob.
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And then I kind of left the Strip, but I when I found Palm's
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place, a sister property to the Palms, I was off the strip and
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it's like condos. And it's really nice.
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Really nice. But this is just.
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This is spectacular. Take your time out, come back
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and finish up the hour. Miller in Condon on the Iowa
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Sports Radio Network. Yeah.
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So, I mean, Rudy Gobert isn't athletic enough.
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And beads never helped. Hi Mary Condon, welcome back.
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Final minute and 1/2 or so over the first hour of the program.
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Hour number two, start things off with Tom Cacert.
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hawkeyereport.com A lot of ground to cover with Tom.
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Look forward to catching up with him on Hawkeye related topics.
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One of which Jack Campbell got paid by the Detroit Lions men
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when he was drafted. Of the Lions fans, what a waste
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of a pick. You never take a linebacker like
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this with the 18th pick overall. He's been handsomely rewarded
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with contract #2 good for him. He was All Pro last year.
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I mean, he's a hell of a player. I don't have to tell you that.
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He's a terrific player. And this Lions team is.
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Mike reminded us the 4th place schedule.
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That's why I jumped the board when the Vikings did leapfrog
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them, knowing that the Detroit's schedule was going to be so cake
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or, you know, to the NFL, right, but certainly would have at
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least a little bit of an advantage scheduling wise.
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I think the Lions are going to be a major factor this year,
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Jared Goff or no Jared Goff. And he's going to be there, one
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would assume. But this is a good football
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team. This was a team that was on the
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precipice a couple of years ago, seemingly.
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The injuries have always hurt that team.
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They're due for a relatively healthy year.
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The schedule is in their favor. We shall see.
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The division's going to do them no favors because I I still
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think it's competitive wise top to bottom.
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There's no free square in the division, right?
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There's no Raiders, there's no Browns, There is no fill in the
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blanks. Although the Saints were better
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last year. I was going to use the Saints.
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They had a good year last year, but there's no bottom there, no
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Cardinals, Packers, Bears, Lions, Vikings.
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All of those teams are going to be, I think good.
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I hope that. I hope they are.
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They certainly move the needle is that that division rather
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more than any other where we're situated here in the wonderful
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state of Iowa. Hour 2 is coming up next.
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Tom Keckert leads it off Eugene Repay on Iowa State chicken coop
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contest as well, Miller and Condon.
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Hour 2 is next Iowa Sports Radio Network.