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- 1:22Speaker 1: to The Favorites, the podcast from the Volume podcast Network.
- 1:25Speaker 1: I'm Chad Nolman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.
- 1:29Speaker 1: I am joined as I am every episode, I might
- 1:32Speaker 1: be ff my companion, my compadre professional better Simon Hunter,
- 1:37Speaker 1: who has already come out on Twitter and said, listen
- 1:40Speaker 1: to the show live on app because we've got some big,
- 1:44Speaker 1: big news and we do have news related to the podcast,
- 1:47Speaker 1: um much more importantly just breaking now. As we sat
- 1:52Speaker 1: down to record this was news from Cincinnati that Tamar Hamlin,
- 1:59Speaker 1: the Bill safety who needed CPR on Monday night and
- 2:03Speaker 1: the Bills Bengals game, has shown remarkable improvement, appears to
- 2:07Speaker 1: be neurologically intact, his luveness continue to heal. Uh. He
- 2:12Speaker 1: is awake and holding hands with family members, his agents
- 2:15Speaker 1: told CNN. So that's great news. We were all trying
- 2:19Speaker 1: to figure out, how are we as members of the media,
- 2:23Speaker 1: how are we as fans supposed to feel about all this,
- 2:27Speaker 1: other than being devastated by what we saw on Monday night?
- 2:30Speaker 1: And then how do we cover games? How do we
- 2:33Speaker 1: bet on games? What is the NFL going to do? Um?
- 2:36Speaker 1: A lot of our feelings aren't going to change about
- 2:39Speaker 1: what we saw. But remarkably good news that uh he
- 2:44Speaker 1: seems to be recovering uh and on pace too to
- 2:47Speaker 1: make a full recovery, which is great. Simon, you got
- 2:51Speaker 1: some news you I had no idea. You tweeted it
- 2:55Speaker 1: out this morning, and then Matt Mitchell and I in
- 2:58Speaker 1: slack or like, I wonder what the news is? I
- 3:00Speaker 1: have no idea, And so we sat down to record
- 3:03Speaker 1: the show and you shared the news. Please share it
- 3:06Speaker 1: with everybody else, so people are on pins and needles.
- 3:11Speaker 1: It was a test and you both failed a test
- 3:13Speaker 1: that you both failed. I wanted to see if you
- 3:15Speaker 1: guys could wait. You could not wait for the show.
- 3:17Speaker 1: You both they both made me tell them before we
- 3:20Speaker 1: came on. There where's the trust? Boys? I mean, come on,
- 3:23Speaker 1: you're four, you are you are a fucking wild card man.
- 3:26Speaker 1: I remember, do you remember the one person who was
- 3:30Speaker 1: the most afraid of doing this show live was you
- 3:34Speaker 1: for fear of what you were going to say that
- 3:37Speaker 1: might get us both canceled, that might get you fired.
- 3:40Speaker 1: I've turned a way down, though people don't know this.
- 3:43Speaker 1: I'm up for a contract right now, so I turned
- 3:45Speaker 1: a way down just because I'm trying to get paid.
- 3:47Speaker 1: And then we'll be back to the old ways. Christ
- 3:51Speaker 1: I'm kidding. Yeah, they both failed. They both wanted to
- 3:54Speaker 1: another info. So long story short. I go to Our Picks,
- 3:58Speaker 1: the same routine every week where I do it picks,
- 4:00Speaker 1: so the game's end, I checked the games to see
- 4:02Speaker 1: where we're at in the standings or where we're at
- 4:04Speaker 1: pick wise, and then me and Chad do our show twos.
- 4:07Speaker 1: And then I logged in Wednesday do our Picks. So
- 4:09Speaker 1: I go to log in do our Picks, and they're gone.
- 4:13Speaker 1: The contest is gone, and I panic and I find
- 4:16Speaker 1: out the hardway chat the contest is over. Last week
- 4:19Speaker 1: was the last week when I checked, after the Bengals
- 4:23Speaker 1: and Bills game. It was a glitch, I guess because
- 4:25Speaker 1: that game had gotten canceled where it looked as if
- 4:28Speaker 1: we stild a week left and we didn't. So sadly,
- 4:31Speaker 1: the contest is over. To all our great fans, and
- 4:34Speaker 1: we decided we're still going to do five picks. Right
- 4:37Speaker 1: this week, We're still gonna do five picks. We're not
- 4:39Speaker 1: gonna put them in the app because we want to
- 4:40Speaker 1: have fidelity to the contest. But we will make the
- 4:43Speaker 1: picks that we want to make today because we get
- 4:46Speaker 1: people will always complain. They're like, oh, they changed their picks,
- 4:49Speaker 1: go to the app. Nothing's changed exactly. See what we
- 4:52Speaker 1: did two years ago, as our loyal fans know me
- 4:55Speaker 1: Chad for the season, we came in for the whole season,
- 5:02Speaker 1: came place. I had a nice little pay there from that.
- 5:06Speaker 1: This year it was doubly amount of people entered. So
- 5:09Speaker 1: over four thousand people entered. This year Chad and I
- 5:13Speaker 1: finished four people sixteen. We didn't make the money, but
- 5:20Speaker 1: it's not the money like we made. I think two
- 5:22Speaker 1: years ago we got four K and a check this
- 5:24Speaker 1: year two hundred dollars. Last we killed us. We went
- 5:29Speaker 1: fifty of eighty, so sixty two point five percent for
- 5:32Speaker 1: the season. So we did better than we did two
- 5:34Speaker 1: years ago. But the competition was that much differ. Sadly,
- 5:38Speaker 1: it was different to the contest we were in. You
- 5:40Speaker 1: could have multiples, which the year. We made it really
- 5:42Speaker 1: hot far you couldn't. I mean, this one guy, this
- 5:45Speaker 1: one group, let's see what their name is, we'll give
- 5:47Speaker 1: them a shout out, because they end up they end
- 5:49Speaker 1: up winning it. Investor only fifty, Investor only fifty five.
- 5:55Speaker 1: He had three in the top ten. So this guy
- 5:57Speaker 1: was really really good. He end up winning all he wanted.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Seventy two crazy, so you got again. We won fifty
- 6:05Speaker 1: of eighty. He went fifty eight of eighty. So just
- 6:07Speaker 1: an incredible season, you know, great year for me, Chad.
- 6:10Speaker 1: I'm I'm bummed out that the last week we didn't,
- 6:14Speaker 1: we didn't put together, we didn't make it into the
- 6:15Speaker 1: top money. But I would say I'll never complain about
- 6:19Speaker 1: a season we go sixt We know how hard it is.
- 6:23Speaker 1: I know the fans now hard it is. So you
- 6:24Speaker 1: had two out of three years. We'll be back out
- 6:27Speaker 1: of next year and we'll talk to um, we'll figure
- 6:30Speaker 1: out what we're gonna do nex year for the contest,
- 6:32Speaker 1: if we need a proxy or anything like that. But
- 6:34Speaker 1: I would say, we love doing it, and it was
- 6:38Speaker 1: a fun year, Donut, and it's it's always a heartbreak
- 6:41Speaker 1: when you don't win. Up. We get how hard. It
- 6:43Speaker 1: is so sixty two. I'm shocked I didn't get us
- 6:46Speaker 1: into the top, but I mean top twenty. But it's
- 6:51Speaker 1: just it's stiff competition, so always looking at ow improof. Alright, So, hey,
- 6:56Speaker 1: congrats to Investor only fifty five. We gotta find whoever
- 7:01Speaker 1: that is and you know, bring him on the fucking
- 7:04Speaker 1: podcast and hire him in the Action network. So if
- 7:07Speaker 1: you're listening investoral or, you know, get in touch. Uh,
- 7:13Speaker 1: congrats on But also thinking about it, so we go
- 7:17Speaker 1: fifty and thirty, right, sty two and a half percent
- 7:22Speaker 1: against the spread five games every week. That's just fucking hard. Like,
- 7:27Speaker 1: let's put it in context. Put it in context. You
- 7:30Speaker 1: win against the spread, you're making money as a professional
- 7:36Speaker 1: better most betters are not going above. Even if you
- 7:42Speaker 1: do that, you're one of the best betters in the world.
- 7:45Speaker 1: So doing it at and above that's fucking insanity. But
- 7:50Speaker 1: also think about this fifty that's one and a half
- 7:57Speaker 1: hands of games that we can count the course of
- 8:00Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, easily easily. The fil side is there's
- 8:04Speaker 1: probably eight other games that we you know, ended up
- 8:08Speaker 1: on the right side on it for a variety of
- 8:10Speaker 1: flukey reasons. So it all evens out we got remember
- 8:14Speaker 1: those we missed as I gotta blame the Jacks like
- 8:17Speaker 1: that that they killed us mid season. We kept getting
- 8:19Speaker 1: on because we kept saying the value was there. But
- 8:22Speaker 1: there's a couple of teams like that. I told you
- 8:24Speaker 1: I went through and it's just Um, we'll do even
- 8:26Speaker 1: more of a recap next next week once we know
- 8:29Speaker 1: all the seating. Because I went back and I finally
- 8:30Speaker 1: listened to our August show, which was just hilarious. Chad,
- 8:33Speaker 1: listen to us. Um, now that we're both beat down
- 8:36Speaker 1: at this point, but we you can hear the love
- 8:38Speaker 1: and excitement we have for football, and at this point
- 8:41Speaker 1: after eighteen nineteen weeks, I'm just so ready for the playoffs. Um,
- 8:45Speaker 1: it's just funny listening back. But yeah, I'll never ever
- 8:49Speaker 1: complain about a six or two point five percent. I'm
- 8:51Speaker 1: just pissed. Like you just said, we are so close,
- 8:54Speaker 1: and like I can see all of those little games
- 8:56Speaker 1: and all those little mistakes which this notebook I keep
- 8:59Speaker 1: throwing up every year I add more to it. Uh.
- 9:01Speaker 1: This this was year three of me and Chad doing
- 9:03Speaker 1: a full time I'll take it to out of three years,
- 9:08Speaker 1: pretty pretty damn good. Uh, Matt Mitchell was sending us notes,
- 9:12Speaker 1: uh that we should make a comment that we do
- 9:17Speaker 1: have an advantage and that the lines often locked on Wednesday.
- 9:21Speaker 1: So we're betting some lines where we're getting some closing
- 9:24Speaker 1: line value, you know, half a point here or half
- 9:27Speaker 1: a point there. The flip side is a lot of
- 9:29Speaker 1: times we're not. I was gonna say totally disagree whatever
- 9:33Speaker 1: when anyone someone says that, I always disagree where there
- 9:36Speaker 1: might be the off chance we get half a point
- 9:38Speaker 1: of value. You can go through all our picks counted up.
- 9:41Speaker 1: I counted five games the entire season that came down
- 9:43Speaker 1: to the line closing and kind of two games. Two
- 9:47Speaker 1: games we give out five games every week that we
- 9:49Speaker 1: got a number of other people didn't get, and that
- 9:51Speaker 1: it mattered to the spread. So I get when people
- 9:54Speaker 1: complain about that stuff. I think that's the I got
- 9:58Speaker 1: nothing to say. I don't know much about sports, So
- 10:00Speaker 1: all I'm gonna do is talk about closing line value.
- 10:02Speaker 1: That's the honest truth. Like if you harp on closing
- 10:05Speaker 1: line value, you're a sucker and you're a long term loser.
- 10:08Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it matters. I load up on games
- 10:11Speaker 1: irrelevant irrelevant where it's like we were gonna talk about
- 10:15Speaker 1: again today me and Chad load up on the products
- 10:17Speaker 1: at three and a half, that line is completely flipped.
- 10:19Speaker 1: I will take the chargers at three am. I gonna
- 10:22Speaker 1: be like, oh, it's because of my closing line value
- 10:24Speaker 1: the whole time. No, it's like we took a position
- 10:26Speaker 1: now and playing it. There's certain weeks where that does
- 10:28Speaker 1: really matter overall anytime someone complains it. So we gave
- 10:32Speaker 1: out those lines on Tuesday or Thursday's show, So it's like,
- 10:36Speaker 1: I get where they're coming from. But I hate when
- 10:38Speaker 1: people have bitched about that to us, where it's like
- 10:41Speaker 1: half the time we we took lines because it was
- 10:43Speaker 1: great value, it didn't work out for us. So like
- 10:46Speaker 1: that's why most of the years I think, I think
- 10:49Speaker 1: we probably we probably ended up like we could have
- 10:52Speaker 1: ended up top fifty like we were most of the
- 10:54Speaker 1: year if we didn't chase line, we hadn't been sort
- 10:57Speaker 1: of so enamored with a lot of games where we
- 11:02Speaker 1: fucking threw Atlanta in there this past weekend because of that.
- 11:05Speaker 1: I bet there's five games over the course of a
- 11:07Speaker 1: week over the season that we could pinpoint that we
- 11:10Speaker 1: lost that we lost them, But a lot has to
- 11:12Speaker 1: do with the model. To the brother, we're like, I
- 11:13Speaker 1: do I do some gud betting, I do bets off
- 11:15Speaker 1: other people. A lot of a lot of my bets
- 11:17Speaker 1: and chat as well, comes down to I'm playing a model.
- 11:20Speaker 1: So it's just that's the same thing that Atlanta one
- 11:23Speaker 1: where I don't want to do it either. Brother, But
- 11:24Speaker 1: I had four and a half in my model. It
- 11:26Speaker 1: was three and a half. The line had all gone
- 11:29Speaker 1: up to six and a half. I was like, all right,
- 11:30Speaker 1: we're getting crazy value here. Um so I completely agree, though,
- 11:33Speaker 1: where that that feels like the lazy man argument against
- 11:36Speaker 1: our show, where all of you listening you can enter
- 11:39Speaker 1: these contests, see how hard it is. Picked five games
- 11:42Speaker 1: every week. You can pick them on was there Tuesday?
- 11:44Speaker 1: Whatever the contest locks try to go. It's brutally tough.
- 11:49Speaker 1: I promise you that much. At the end of the day,
- 11:52Speaker 1: we finished a hundred out of four thousand contestants. That's
- 11:58Speaker 1: top two, pot nine percent of all contestants. I'll take
- 12:03Speaker 1: top two, top three. I don't mind live in the
- 12:07Speaker 1: top three percent. Hile life you're living good, I don't
- 12:11Speaker 1: mind it. What would have life higher? But people can
- 12:15Speaker 1: fight to them a little snippy because I'm just mad
- 12:17Speaker 1: that it's over. Reminder, Foxhole, we had the Browns plus
- 12:22Speaker 1: two and a half. Simon says, we had the Titans
- 12:24Speaker 1: plus six and a half. Exact decision. You mentioned the Broncos.
- 12:28Speaker 1: We're gonna get into it. I chose the Broncos plus
- 12:30Speaker 1: three and a half. That line is now Chargers plus
- 12:33Speaker 1: two and a half. A lot of flipping going on. Um,
- 12:36Speaker 1: we will make a big balls, we will do our
- 12:38Speaker 1: Scooch roulette, we will do our money line round robin parlay.
- 12:43Speaker 1: But first and foremost, we're gonna get to sharp cops. Hello,
- 12:50Speaker 1: who's there? I'm talking. It's off week where a lot
- 13:00Speaker 1: of these lines you're bouncing. We got a bunch of
- 13:02Speaker 1: QB news. We did that show what was It Tuesday Night,
- 13:07Speaker 1: and a bunch of QB news kind of came out
- 13:09Speaker 1: and like during Tuesday, Wednesday, Tuesday morning, Tuesday night, Wednesday morning,
- 13:14Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon. We've seen all these lines shift really and
- 13:16Speaker 1: then a couple of lines haven't really shifted at all.
- 13:18Speaker 1: The sharp calls a couple of times are dead numbers.
- 13:20Speaker 1: So it doesn't help anyone at all. People all over
- 13:22Speaker 1: the Broncos. I feel like we talked about it where
- 13:25Speaker 1: you took the number just in case it shifted when
- 13:28Speaker 1: news came out that charges might be sitting starters, and
- 13:30Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. So that was one where I
- 13:34Speaker 1: think we both saw the show we were gonna bet
- 13:35Speaker 1: as many plus threes and a halfs as we could find,
- 13:38Speaker 1: and to no one's surprise, that completely shifted. So that
- 13:41Speaker 1: was one of the more sharp, sharp called shrupter greed
- 13:44Speaker 1: bets of the week. A game I I told Chat
- 13:48Speaker 1: I needed more calls on was that Carolina Panthers game.
- 13:52Speaker 1: The pros love the Saints. Uh, they love it. I'm
- 13:55Speaker 1: scared because I like the Panthers kind of, but I'm
- 13:58Speaker 1: not going against them. Uh. I don't even know. It's
- 14:01Speaker 1: up to like five different smart groups that came in
- 14:05Speaker 1: on this number, and then one guy came in the
- 14:08Speaker 1: opposite side took the Panthers up plus four. I'll end
- 14:11Speaker 1: up probably the Saints, but it's maybe that one I'll
- 14:13Speaker 1: just stay away from just because it's it's really split.
- 14:16Speaker 1: But pros I can tell you right now, they're gonna
- 14:18Speaker 1: come in on this Saints team. Uh. Game we didn't
- 14:21Speaker 1: talk about surprisingly was Atlanta. I know a couple of
- 14:25Speaker 1: really smart groups have come in Atlanta. Um, that was
- 14:27Speaker 1: the one game we missed by accident, so maybe we
- 14:29Speaker 1: could talk a little more about that one. I kind
- 14:32Speaker 1: of had an opinion on where I was gonna take
- 14:33Speaker 1: Atlanta because it felt like they were gonna play the
- 14:35Speaker 1: starters like there. They're one of those teams I just
- 14:38Speaker 1: play hard regardless, especially with a rookie quarterback in there. Um.
- 14:42Speaker 1: On the flip side, Tampa's resting. I mean everything I've
- 14:45Speaker 1: read it seems like Tampa's uh not playing that one.
- 14:48Speaker 1: So um, that's a game we'll definitely have to touch on.
- 14:50Speaker 1: And then a game we loved that all the pros
- 14:52Speaker 1: are gonna love Tennessee. We said earlier in the week,
- 14:54Speaker 1: I thought Tennessee was gonna be just a pro bad game.
- 14:57Speaker 1: In fact that it wasn't seven it was kind of
- 14:59Speaker 1: a telling sign. Um, it felt like I kind of
- 15:01Speaker 1: let you know that early money was gonna come in
- 15:03Speaker 1: on them. I think Chad looked it up and said
- 15:06Speaker 1: that all the money had come in early on Tennessee,
- 15:08Speaker 1: and that's what I expected. I just feel like that
- 15:11Speaker 1: was the normal play where every every guy's gonna have
- 15:15Speaker 1: that part. That's six point part that this week of Um,
- 15:18Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go through it. I know, like
- 15:19Speaker 1: the Chiefs were in there and they bumped out all
- 15:20Speaker 1: way up to nine and a half. But I was
- 15:24Speaker 1: not shocked that to hear so many pros on Tennessee.
- 15:26Speaker 1: But I was, honestly the the Atlanta went through me
- 15:29Speaker 1: for a little bit of a loop, just because that's
- 15:30Speaker 1: an interesting position to take. Um and the fact that
- 15:33Speaker 1: I didn't really anyone back in us with Cleveland. Um,
- 15:37Speaker 1: maybe they want the three, but I feel like two
- 15:39Speaker 1: and a half is a fair number. If you can
- 15:41Speaker 1: get the three, obviously that's great. But I thought that
- 15:43Speaker 1: was gonna be more more bet this week. And again
- 15:46Speaker 1: we're earlier this is it's not even one o'clock noon
- 15:50Speaker 1: yet East Coast on Thursday. But for the amount of
- 15:53Speaker 1: bets I usually taken this week, I was just shocked. Um,
- 15:56Speaker 1: that's so few of coming on the Browns. I do
- 15:58Speaker 1: really still like the spot of this Brown team. Alright, So, um,
- 16:02Speaker 1: let's talk about the Broncos. First, Broncos plus three and
- 16:05Speaker 1: a half. Look, we like the Broncos plus three and
- 16:08Speaker 1: a half at least I did uh on Tuesday. Not
- 16:14Speaker 1: it in a vacuum, right, the Chargers being on the road,
- 16:18Speaker 1: being favorites on the road. The Broncos have been a
- 16:20Speaker 1: team that we have backed pretty consistently all season long,
- 16:25Speaker 1: especially is pretty really big favorites um this past weekend especially,
- 16:29Speaker 1: and I just feel like, again in a vacuum, their
- 16:35Speaker 1: defense is really good. The Chargers offense has been struggling,
- 16:39Speaker 1: even if it is justin Herbert and sort of a
- 16:41Speaker 1: wide array of complimentary talent on the edges in Austin Ekeler. Now,
- 16:47Speaker 1: I think this game is flipped. I I haven't seen
- 16:50Speaker 1: news about the Chargers resting, but I do know that
- 16:52Speaker 1: they're seating is dependent aboud what happens earlier in the day,
- 16:56Speaker 1: So it's entirely possible they know what they're they know it.
- 17:01Speaker 1: They need to win to get better seating, or they
- 17:04Speaker 1: could win and nothing will happen depending on earlier games.
- 17:06Speaker 1: I think that's why it's flipped, right, Am I missing
- 17:08Speaker 1: something I'm saying? So it's like the easiest thing ever
- 17:11Speaker 1: if you want to bet, like a pro, pro is
- 17:14Speaker 1: always taking the money where you can. You literally if
- 17:17Speaker 1: you bet. I don't even know if you bet one year.
- 17:19Speaker 1: If you bet one unit on the three and a half,
- 17:22Speaker 1: you take the three. You just take the three in
- 17:24Speaker 1: the Charges right now and you hope for that middle
- 17:26Speaker 1: or if it lands on a push, so be it.
- 17:27Speaker 1: But that's the exact thing what you just said. If
- 17:31Speaker 1: the Ravens or I forge out what the scenario is
- 17:33Speaker 1: that the Ravens are the Bengal, is one of them
- 17:35Speaker 1: pulls an upset or vice versa, the Bengals win, the
- 17:37Speaker 1: Ravens lose. I guess they don't need to play. If
- 17:39Speaker 1: the Ravens lose, but the Ravens win, they can move
- 17:42Speaker 1: up a seating. So that's why the Charges would have
- 17:44Speaker 1: to win this game to keep that seat in the
- 17:47Speaker 1: five hold. I guess so, and I could be wrong
- 17:49Speaker 1: because I'm not the best with the playoff scenario stuff,
- 17:51Speaker 1: but just looking at this movement, I just said it
- 17:54Speaker 1: like we'll take the dog and I took the under
- 17:57Speaker 1: as well, where if Herbert sits even better, it's gonna
- 18:00Speaker 1: be a low total. I don't know how many defensive
- 18:02Speaker 1: players are gonna arrest either the Chargers, but I could
- 18:05Speaker 1: just already see this being a low scoring game. The
- 18:07Speaker 1: denver is the bet I think Denver is gonna win
- 18:10Speaker 1: this game. Obviously, it changes everything now if it is
- 18:13Speaker 1: gonna be Herbert. So that's that's the thing. If you've
- 18:15Speaker 1: already missed the value on Denver, you can just set
- 18:18Speaker 1: it out and then once you have more clarity, maybe
- 18:20Speaker 1: bet the number before the game. Do you feel like
- 18:22Speaker 1: you take the two and a half for the Chargers
- 18:24Speaker 1: right now or do you wait? Do you wait until
- 18:26Speaker 1: Sunday when you sort of get a better sense of
- 18:28Speaker 1: what the Chargers might do based on their seating. Yeah,
- 18:32Speaker 1: and then because and also, I just don't tell people
- 18:33Speaker 1: to buy points. I hate telling people to buy points.
- 18:36Speaker 1: Um like, buy half a point to make it three
- 18:38Speaker 1: if you could get two and a half. But I
- 18:40Speaker 1: wouldn't fault you if you did it. I just played
- 18:41Speaker 1: the number. So like to me, if if I already
- 18:43Speaker 1: missed the three, I would throw a little on the
- 18:45Speaker 1: two and a half. But just if I'm already locked
- 18:47Speaker 1: into three and a half, that's the big bet. So yeah,
- 18:49Speaker 1: instead of putting half a unit on the two and
- 18:51Speaker 1: a half, maybe only put whatever point too on the
- 18:54Speaker 1: two and a half, just because it's it's a key number,
- 18:56Speaker 1: but it's not as key as three obviously just mathematically,
- 19:00Speaker 1: you know, the math doesn't work out where lands more
- 19:02Speaker 1: than three than does it? Too? Interesting? Game, fascinating, game,
- 19:06Speaker 1: fascinating this whole weekend, there could be a lot of
- 19:09Speaker 1: spots where, Yeah, I love these kind of games. You
- 19:11Speaker 1: might want to wait, right, I just love these games.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Are everyone's hoping for a middle and the book just
- 19:17Speaker 1: because it's so sharper this time of the year. They're
- 19:19Speaker 1: just they're dreading that they're just so they're gonna be
- 19:21Speaker 1: right on the middle. Another game, and I always referenced
- 19:24Speaker 1: Chris Raybond and Stucky in the Action Network podcast. Stucky
- 19:27Speaker 1: had a really good point about the Lions packers and
- 19:31Speaker 1: we we liked. We talked about this the other day.
- 19:34Speaker 1: We like the Lions at at four and a half. Yeah,
- 19:37Speaker 1: we're a couple of suckers regardless of the scenario, right
- 19:40Speaker 1: because the Lions will know before the game whether or
- 19:43Speaker 1: not they're in the playoffs or they're playing spoilers because
- 19:46Speaker 1: of the Seahawks earlier in the day of Seahawks and
- 19:49Speaker 1: screwed up. But honestly, is the better chat. I want
- 19:51Speaker 1: them to be the spoiler. Like them playing for the
- 19:53Speaker 1: playoff makes me more nervous than being a spoiler them
- 19:55Speaker 1: spoiler spot yeah to me is great, but but that's
- 19:58Speaker 1: what I think. I think and Stuck. You made a
- 20:01Speaker 1: really good point. It's very possible Seahawks win. Lins know
- 20:05Speaker 1: they're only gonna be spoilers. The line shoots up from
- 20:08Speaker 1: four and a half to five and a half to
- 20:09Speaker 1: six and a half because people think the Lions won't
- 20:12Speaker 1: play for anything. But if you're paying any attention, you
- 20:15Speaker 1: know the Lions are going to go balls to the
- 20:17Speaker 1: wall no matter what. So you might want to wait
- 20:21Speaker 1: and see if you can get an even bigger number
- 20:23Speaker 1: as the game nears kickoff, if you know what's happening
- 20:26Speaker 1: with Seattle. Yeah, and Matt just hit us on the slack.
- 20:30Speaker 1: That about people parlaying these things together, Um, like different
- 20:33Speaker 1: scenarios about different teams, how they're gonna make the playoffs,
- 20:36Speaker 1: and those exact scenaries need to happen for them to
- 20:38Speaker 1: make it. I love doing that stuff. I'll never bet
- 20:41Speaker 1: Seahawks to make the playoffs whatever it is right now.
- 20:44Speaker 1: Plus I'll parlay the scenarios together because that's the better value.
- 20:48Speaker 1: Last year is when not the funniest year I can
- 20:51Speaker 1: rever remember but it's close to it and it sounds stupid.
- 20:53Speaker 1: But that tie scenario and the last game of the year,
- 20:57Speaker 1: that was a real bet that came down to the
- 20:59Speaker 1: y there any over time, the clock was ticking down,
- 21:02Speaker 1: there was a minute ago, and that the legious naive
- 21:05Speaker 1: was there of them because the Raiders were gonna run
- 21:07Speaker 1: the clock out, and the coach of Charges did something
- 21:10Speaker 1: that I don't ever understand. He took a time out,
- 21:12Speaker 1: shot himself on the foot. They end up losing Charges
- 21:14Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Yead da YadA. Same thing this year.
- 21:17Speaker 1: I'll do those real bets with all of you. Like,
- 21:19Speaker 1: there's shows that are way more in depth on that
- 21:20Speaker 1: kind of betting style and people do write ups to
- 21:23Speaker 1: I think Action does a really good right up about
- 21:25Speaker 1: incentive betting, which is you bet certain player props for incentives.
- 21:29Speaker 1: Obviously the books have caught onto it, right they bumped
- 21:31Speaker 1: the props up. Still do it like they still over
- 21:34Speaker 1: the last three years doing it. I don't know if
- 21:36Speaker 1: it was Shawan Sean that did it last year, but
- 21:38Speaker 1: one of our guys had an article where it was
- 21:41Speaker 1: like just all every you could pick your own, pick
- 21:45Speaker 1: your own bets, but literally told you every single plan
- 21:47Speaker 1: what their sent up was pretty much for why they
- 21:49Speaker 1: were playing for what in the prop market, same thing
- 21:51Speaker 1: this year, like shop for that stuff as well. It's
- 21:54Speaker 1: obviously there's no full proof plan, but it's been profitable
- 21:58Speaker 1: over the last three years to me. So that's one
- 21:59Speaker 1: of those, right, just like I'm gonna look, I'm not
- 22:01Speaker 1: gonna bet every single thing people give out, but it's
- 22:03Speaker 1: like that makes sense if the matchup favorites favorites that
- 22:06Speaker 1: as well. Um, yeah, that bret those different props on
- 22:10Speaker 1: players playing your sentence, because that's the real thing. These
- 22:12Speaker 1: people are humans, their friends. I mean, everyone knows that
- 22:15Speaker 1: famous clip of Brady talking to Gronk and gron sty
- 22:18Speaker 1: like I need two more catches to hit the million dollars.
- 22:21Speaker 1: Gronks like, I got you, baby, Brady's I got you
- 22:23Speaker 1: the there to go in back to back place and
- 22:25Speaker 1: they go off the field and that was it for
- 22:26Speaker 1: them for the season. So definitely something to keep an
- 22:28Speaker 1: eye out. It's it's fun bean that in the playoffs scenarios. Yeah, no,
- 22:32Speaker 1: it's totally true, and we did have a story about
- 22:34Speaker 1: that and will update that for this year. What about
- 22:37Speaker 1: luck rankings? You got anything good? For me this week
- 22:39Speaker 1: with luck rankings, because you guys killed it last week
- 22:40Speaker 1: with the I haven't seen the luck rankings yet this week,
- 22:45Speaker 1: but I did cut you off with the about Stucky
- 22:47Speaker 1: in their show. We were talking about the Lions and
- 22:49Speaker 1: the and the Packers. There were us there against us,
- 22:52Speaker 1: they were with us on the Lions. But also Stucky
- 22:56Speaker 1: was making the really good point that it might be
- 22:59Speaker 1: worth waiting because you might get a better number later day.
- 23:04Speaker 1: You probably won't go down against It won't go down
- 23:07Speaker 1: to like, it won't go below four. It could, but
- 23:10Speaker 1: I don't think i'll go blow through and a half, right,
- 23:11Speaker 1: So you you're if you want to wait, you'll still
- 23:13Speaker 1: get the lines of good number, and you might get
- 23:15Speaker 1: them at a better number depending on what happens, was
- 23:18Speaker 1: their point. No update for the lunk rankings yet, So
- 23:22Speaker 1: the other game the week that you got sharped. I'm
- 23:24Speaker 1: sorry what I was gonna say about the luck rankings
- 23:25Speaker 1: those if you've been tracking it, it's as I'm to
- 23:28Speaker 1: keep your eye on for the playoffs because that stuff
- 23:31Speaker 1: does matter in the playoffs. Like teams you'll see that
- 23:34Speaker 1: like they've not that they that Green Bays turned their luck,
- 23:37Speaker 1: but you've kind of seen that these last couple of weeks.
- 23:39Speaker 1: They were a team that was crazy on lucky if
- 23:40Speaker 1: you followed our charts all season, and these last couple
- 23:43Speaker 1: of weeks, it's kind of regressed back to the meme
- 23:45Speaker 1: for them where they're getting lucky year. Things are bouncing
- 23:47Speaker 1: Green Bay's way, so definitely something to follow in the playoffs.
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- 25:59Speaker 1: surprised as you are that people haven't come in on
- 26:03Speaker 1: the Browns given the trends. Mike Tomlin is a favorite,
- 26:08Speaker 1: given how spoiler trend spoiler trend, given that it's divisional
- 26:14Speaker 1: teams the number this division specifically, these games end up
- 26:19Speaker 1: being the underdogs end up playing really well in these games.
- 26:23Speaker 1: So I'm still comfortable with the Browns. Yeah, And I
- 26:26Speaker 1: just thought it was interesting where the pros I did
- 26:29Speaker 1: talk to their like us, they've come in on the
- 26:31Speaker 1: Browns and two and a half coming on too. Some
- 26:34Speaker 1: of them even got threes. I want to touch three
- 26:36Speaker 1: for a little bit, But I just think two and
- 26:38Speaker 1: a half is a great number for this game that
- 26:40Speaker 1: we know exactly what's gonna be. It's just gonna be
- 26:41Speaker 1: a close, slug it out game that's gonna come down
- 26:44Speaker 1: to a field goal, and two and a half We've
- 26:46Speaker 1: seen it plenty of times now. These weird scores these
- 26:49Speaker 1: fourteen thirteens, these uh you know, really random games and
- 26:53Speaker 1: these miss sextra points, so that two and a half
- 26:55Speaker 1: does matter the fact that they're not getting the three.
- 26:58Speaker 1: Those kind of telling like it feels like they know
- 27:01Speaker 1: the big money will come in if they touch us
- 27:03Speaker 1: three again, so they just keep leaving at two two
- 27:05Speaker 1: and a half. One of those where if we were
- 27:09Speaker 1: doing our contest pic this week got guaranteed would be
- 27:10Speaker 1: one of our five. It's just it's the game I
- 27:13Speaker 1: really like. It's a spot I really like. And it's
- 27:19Speaker 1: not that it feels right that Pittsburgh willa make the playoffs,
- 27:22Speaker 1: but it feels like they are definitely them. Them Them
- 27:26Speaker 1: are the Patriots get in the seventh seed. They feel
- 27:28Speaker 1: like I seventh seed teams. They're both teams with tons
- 27:30Speaker 1: of question marks, that are toughest ship that has good,
- 27:33Speaker 1: really good coaching, right Tomlin Belichick, They'll drag these corps
- 27:37Speaker 1: of a team across that finish line. Um, It's it's
- 27:41Speaker 1: tough going against Tomin, but I feel like Chad and
- 27:43Speaker 1: nailed it where it's like we love Tomlin as a dog,
- 27:46Speaker 1: especially at home. Usually we fade them in these spots
- 27:49Speaker 1: where they're kind of the public darling as a favorite
- 27:51Speaker 1: playing against a team that no one's really taken. So
- 27:56Speaker 1: we love the Browns. Let's let's do effects similarly of five,
- 28:00Speaker 1: we love the Browns. Would we would have Titans in
- 28:05Speaker 1: and we could talk about that game again if you want. Yeah, yeah, well,
- 28:08Speaker 1: as I was gonna get I was gonna that was
- 28:09Speaker 1: gonna be my last one. But let's talk about it now.
- 28:11Speaker 1: Um it's moved from six and a half to six.
- 28:15Speaker 1: I'm not uncomfortable betting on Josh Dobbs. I'm not uncomfortable
- 28:19Speaker 1: betting against the Jags in this spot. For every bad
- 28:24Speaker 1: look that the Titans had against the Cowboys, that's how
- 28:28Speaker 1: good the Jags have looked against equally bad teams during
- 28:32Speaker 1: their streak, including they beat the Titans handily on the road,
- 28:38Speaker 1: but the Titans were really injured and in bad shape defensively.
- 28:44Speaker 1: I like a six point spread as an underdog for
- 28:49Speaker 1: Mike Rabel, who covers it a clip as a dog
- 28:53Speaker 1: of three or more in his career. I like a
- 28:55Speaker 1: team that's now basically took a bye last week and
- 28:58Speaker 1: it's totally healthy. I like Jobs, who was serviceable against
- 29:01Speaker 1: the Cowboys, having a chance to practice for two weeks
- 29:05Speaker 1: with the first team. I like this. I like the
- 29:07Speaker 1: circumstances here. Yeah, it's also that position the Jaguars had
- 29:11Speaker 1: never been in before. This is going to be a
- 29:13Speaker 1: legit playoff game, total playoff field for this this matchup.
- 29:19Speaker 1: And like you just said that, the label factors so
- 29:21Speaker 1: huched to me, Like I get where people are coming
- 29:23Speaker 1: from that day. They're not. They haven't been the same
- 29:25Speaker 1: old Tennessee team these last couple of weeks, right, they
- 29:28Speaker 1: just they really disappointed, especially Betters, Like I know some
- 29:31Speaker 1: really smart groups that you know, they've they've they've made
- 29:35Speaker 1: a lot of money off re Able these last couple
- 29:36Speaker 1: of years bent him when the public just kept undervalue
- 29:38Speaker 1: and him as a coach. And this defense, um me
- 29:42Speaker 1: and Tannehill was part of that too, right Tannehill, that
- 29:45Speaker 1: whole run with him and A J. Brown with Derrick Kennry,
- 29:47Speaker 1: that was a nice combo they had for those last
- 29:49Speaker 1: three years. We saw them a justice here. They really
- 29:51Speaker 1: didn't have any passing game and they were still covering
- 29:54Speaker 1: these games. I mean that middle of the season was crazy.
- 29:56Speaker 1: I'll never forget. I think it was a week two
- 29:58Speaker 1: they got blown out by Matt Mitchell's Bills. I mean,
- 30:01Speaker 1: the Bill's steam rolling in a primetime game. To go
- 30:04Speaker 1: all right Tennessee is a joke, like they're gonna be
- 30:06Speaker 1: bad all year. I think they won seven straight like
- 30:08Speaker 1: something crazy like that, where Dad's kind of the variabral
- 30:11Speaker 1: makeup of this team. And here we are sitting again
- 30:14Speaker 1: where they're left for debt. I mean, every probably talked
- 30:16Speaker 1: to they've coming on the seven, that came on the
- 30:17Speaker 1: six and a half, they're coming on the sixth. Just
- 30:20Speaker 1: makes sense. They're gonna be all betting this because I
- 30:22Speaker 1: feel like Chad nailed it. Like the Jaguars, they're the
- 30:26Speaker 1: ones feeling their pressure. I feel like Tennessee team is
- 30:28Speaker 1: gonna have no pressure here, especially with variable coach of them.
- 30:31Speaker 1: They're just they are that team. And I would say
- 30:35Speaker 1: if I didn't have such an emotional big bed, I mean,
- 30:37Speaker 1: we could talk about hedge in our position to here
- 30:39Speaker 1: um at the end of this. But it's one of
- 30:42Speaker 1: these games where I really do want to take Tennessee's
- 30:45Speaker 1: money line. Like the math works out, it's profitable to
- 30:47Speaker 1: take Raybele as a dog on the money line. Uh.
- 30:50Speaker 1: He usually wins and covers but I won't do it
- 30:53Speaker 1: because I do think the number is fair where it's
- 30:55Speaker 1: like this should be three and a half. So I'll
- 30:56Speaker 1: take the number, and I assume the Jacks will went
- 30:59Speaker 1: by a feelical call that's to have a modeled out
- 31:00Speaker 1: at And the biggest thing is the hedge chat. I
- 31:03Speaker 1: don't know if you want to talk about that now. Yeah,
- 31:06Speaker 1: this game shout out to our die hard fans have
- 31:09Speaker 1: believed in it with us the Jaguars, we talked about
- 31:11Speaker 1: it all year. Only a couple of you guys bet
- 31:14Speaker 1: it and I got it. I completely sure where people
- 31:17Speaker 1: are coming from where it's just well, well, guys will
- 31:19Speaker 1: see it. This offseason, we're gonna talk about teams that
- 31:21Speaker 1: are gross and it's impossible to really see it because
- 31:24Speaker 1: you're just so tuned into what happened the year before
- 31:26Speaker 1: and what you happened you saw the year before. But
- 31:29Speaker 1: it all lined up like we had a second year
- 31:31Speaker 1: QB the first pick. Overall, we had a new head
- 31:35Speaker 1: coach and a head coach that was light year is
- 31:37Speaker 1: better than the previous head coach, and a team with
- 31:39Speaker 1: a ton of talent. So do we get lucky as hell?
- 31:42Speaker 1: Did they happen in being the ANFC South. Yes, any
- 31:45Speaker 1: other division they would have a chance at this point.
- 31:47Speaker 1: But it was also the crazy part. At the time
- 31:50Speaker 1: we were talking about them at eight to one and
- 31:51Speaker 1: nine to one to win this division. It was the Colton,
- 31:54Speaker 1: Tennessee's division. Like you look back now, it's just crazy
- 31:57Speaker 1: to think how high even like listening back to our show,
- 31:59Speaker 1: how funny it was us talking about Uh not that
- 32:02Speaker 1: we are respected Colds so much, but we understood why
- 32:05Speaker 1: people are betting them. Right, they just made sense. And
- 32:08Speaker 1: that ugly, that ugly, ugly dog, that that Jaguars team,
- 32:12Speaker 1: they were just sitting there. Uh so for a hedging.
- 32:16Speaker 1: This is the dream scenario. Do you guys know exactly
- 32:19Speaker 1: what a pro does. This is exactly what I'll do.
- 32:21Speaker 1: I have tons of money invested, but we'll keep it simple, wized. Well,
- 32:25Speaker 1: just as if I have one unit on it. So
- 32:27Speaker 1: you have one unit, let's just say eight the one,
- 32:29Speaker 1: or you can do seven and one of people really
- 32:31Speaker 1: want if you've got even worse renumber, but eighth the
- 32:33Speaker 1: one that makes simpler. So you bet a hundred, you
- 32:36Speaker 1: win eight hundred, Right, That's how that works. You get
- 32:38Speaker 1: something in that position. Eight the one, the hedging. When
- 32:41Speaker 1: you have a dog like you do with Tennessee, it's
- 32:44Speaker 1: six and a half or six. You can take four
- 32:47Speaker 1: units and put it on the six and you're trying
- 32:49Speaker 1: to have the dream scenario of the Jaguars win, but
- 32:52Speaker 1: they win by under six, so you win both bet.
- 32:55Speaker 1: You win them the division, and you win your hedge
- 32:57Speaker 1: because they cover the number. And I mean all thought
- 33:01Speaker 1: I had the the best hedge I've ever seen ever
- 33:05Speaker 1: play out was last year's super Bowl. All these pros,
- 33:08Speaker 1: these really smart guys, all had the Rams for the
- 33:11Speaker 1: super Bowl. They had bet it all year. The super
- 33:14Speaker 1: Bowl came, what they do. They took the four. They
- 33:17Speaker 1: took the three and a half with the Bengals, So
- 33:19Speaker 1: right there, they're key. They're already covered on their hedge,
- 33:22Speaker 1: and they won both bets. The Rams went out right
- 33:25Speaker 1: by three. They won their hedge on the Bengals. So
- 33:28Speaker 1: that's what as a pro, I'm doing a bank roll.
- 33:30Speaker 1: That's what I do. If you're someone that just has
- 33:31Speaker 1: higher risk, you can do nothing. If you think that
- 33:34Speaker 1: Jacks are gonna win, you can do nothing. I just
- 33:36Speaker 1: would at least try to get your money back and
- 33:38Speaker 1: played safe and maybe put one or two units on
- 33:40Speaker 1: the six and a half with Tennessee, Like, that's just
- 33:43Speaker 1: an easy way to make sure you get your money
- 33:44Speaker 1: back in a little profit. Um. But I don't know,
- 33:49Speaker 1: It's I always feel weird telling people exactly to their money,
- 33:51Speaker 1: but that's what I do. Like I always take the
- 33:53Speaker 1: middle hedge where I always try to get exactly my
- 33:57Speaker 1: money back and halfway where it's like, no matter what,
- 34:00Speaker 1: I'm either gonna win twelve units or I'm going to
- 34:03Speaker 1: win whatever it works out through four units. It's just
- 34:06Speaker 1: I just try to always play that middle part. I'm
- 34:08Speaker 1: always gonna get money back instead of let my money run. Uh.
- 34:12Speaker 1: I'm listening to you, and this is amazing and fascinating,
- 34:15Speaker 1: And while you were talking about it, I had forgotten
- 34:18Speaker 1: what I how much money I put on the Jags
- 34:22Speaker 1: to win the to win the division. So I was
- 34:27Speaker 1: just checking it and I I happened to put exactly
- 34:32Speaker 1: the same amount on the Jacks to win the division
- 34:36Speaker 1: as I did on the Titans at plus six and
- 34:37Speaker 1: a half. There you go. Um, But yeah, it's just
- 34:43Speaker 1: I always tell people. The people always say like hedgans
- 34:46Speaker 1: for losers, for suckers. That's just that's like a stupid
- 34:49Speaker 1: like be a man kind of phrase where if you're
- 34:53Speaker 1: you got the money to burn, yeah, don't edge like
- 34:55Speaker 1: who cares. But if you're like taking this serious, you
- 34:57Speaker 1: want to learn how to build a bank roll, this
- 35:00Speaker 1: is it Like you literally are making these bets in
- 35:02Speaker 1: August to set yourself up for a profit down the
- 35:04Speaker 1: road to build up your bank roll. So um, it's
- 35:08Speaker 1: just one of those things where we talk all the
- 35:10Speaker 1: time about taking positions and this is one of them
- 35:12Speaker 1: that worked out. Now. I don't know if you want
- 35:14Speaker 1: to do it are I'm guessing we're gonna do it
- 35:16Speaker 1: next Tuesday. We'll do a full recap of that whole
- 35:18Speaker 1: August show. But yeah, let's get through. We gotta get
- 35:20Speaker 1: through this regular season, those regular and make sure it's
- 35:23Speaker 1: official official, right because like you know, we had the
- 35:27Speaker 1: Bears under Jets, so Jets under Lions over those were
- 35:31Speaker 1: the three big ones. I think we'll talk about all
- 35:34Speaker 1: that next week once everything's paid out. I mean like
- 35:37Speaker 1: two where we went one through seven from the nf
- 35:39Speaker 1: C a f scene like that's through that too. Yeah,
- 35:43Speaker 1: totally bills. It sucks you guys are getting to see
- 35:47Speaker 1: whatever it is if the Chiefs win this week, they
- 35:49Speaker 1: got the one seed, but they have to let them
- 35:51Speaker 1: play a neutral site. If it's Bills Chiefs in the
- 35:53Speaker 1: conference championship game, they can't give the Chiefs. To me,
- 35:56Speaker 1: they couldn't give the Chiefs home field. That just does
- 35:58Speaker 1: not feel right place first of the Bills. So split
- 36:01Speaker 1: it down the middle, let them play a neutral site.
- 36:03Speaker 1: Their fans can go fifty. Whatever it is. Still it up.
- 36:06Speaker 1: That to me is the fairest thing, because, yes, the
- 36:08Speaker 1: Chiefs earned being the one seed. They played well all year.
- 36:10Speaker 1: They were in arguably a tougher division, whatever you want
- 36:12Speaker 1: to say. The Bills should not be punished for something
- 36:15Speaker 1: completely out of their hands. So I've been thinking about
- 36:17Speaker 1: it all the time because it is the most impossible
- 36:19Speaker 1: scenario ever. To me, they were never going to play
- 36:21Speaker 1: that a game every again. Once the Bills flew home,
- 36:24Speaker 1: that was over. That game was over. They're ever gonna
- 36:26Speaker 1: play that a game. But hopefully since he wins this week,
- 36:29Speaker 1: whatever it may be, so they can get that three seed.
- 36:31Speaker 1: The Bills get the two seed, Chiefs get the one seed,
- 36:34Speaker 1: let them play on neutral field if they both make it.
- 36:36Speaker 1: If not, if the Bills lose, they stumble and they're
- 36:39Speaker 1: not in the conference championship. Yes, Chiefs can be the
- 36:41Speaker 1: home team, but I do believe that's the only fair
- 36:43Speaker 1: away where it's like it's such an out of this
- 36:46Speaker 1: world experience. There's no book on what to do here.
- 36:49Speaker 1: That just seems fair. Give them a neutral site. They
- 36:51Speaker 1: both deserved that. They're both the two best teams in
- 36:54Speaker 1: the a f C. Can we talk about the Rams
- 36:56Speaker 1: for a second. Yeah, the game, we haven't choice and
- 37:00Speaker 1: we have to bet. We have to bet the Rams. Yeah,
- 37:02Speaker 1: we don't like it lines up with every scenario that
- 37:06Speaker 1: linds up with teams that have been blown out being
- 37:08Speaker 1: under valued. It linds up with teams that had a
- 37:10Speaker 1: big win being overvalued at and saw team good one
- 37:13Speaker 1: week bad the next good one. We wind up with
- 37:15Speaker 1: teams potentially being eliminated versus teams that are already out. Like,
- 37:20Speaker 1: there's just no reason not to bet the Rams here.
- 37:23Speaker 1: I ate it. We can't can't help it. I mean,
- 37:27Speaker 1: it's makes me feel a little better than knowing the
- 37:28Speaker 1: numbers moved and moved up the six and a half
- 37:30Speaker 1: down to six, which is like all right, good at
- 37:32Speaker 1: least at least the pros are bending with us. Because
- 37:34Speaker 1: it was a little spooky that were i was just
- 37:36Speaker 1: sitting there at six and a half, I'm like, why
- 37:37Speaker 1: is this number not moving? Like that's the same thing
- 37:40Speaker 1: of the Tennessee. It's like these numbers feel inflated just
- 37:42Speaker 1: because of what happened last week. We're buying the value.
- 37:45Speaker 1: It's just can me and Chad know the RAMS guys
- 37:48Speaker 1: have all booked their vacation. They're completely gonna quit on
- 37:50Speaker 1: this game. No, we can't, but we know the math
- 37:52Speaker 1: works out now spoiler. This is a spoiler game. The
- 37:57Speaker 1: visional rivalry can't help it. Chat Like you said, we
- 38:00Speaker 1: cannot help, but we have to bet the six and
- 38:02Speaker 1: a half. It was contest six and a half, I'd
- 38:04Speaker 1: bet it six my pause, but I'm still been that Like, personally,
- 38:09Speaker 1: I'm still take the six, but for contest plays, I'd
- 38:12Speaker 1: want that half. I want that six and a half.
- 38:14Speaker 1: This is likely big balls better the week. Really is
- 38:22Speaker 1: this or one other game that is on my mind?
- 38:26Speaker 1: Let's say we've got four games we've decided on right now,
- 38:29Speaker 1: Brown's at the lines that currently exist, Brown's two and
- 38:32Speaker 1: a half, Tighten six Rams six and a half lines
- 38:34Speaker 1: four and a half. Do you feel good about those
- 38:38Speaker 1: I thought are big ball is gonna be the Saints.
- 38:41Speaker 1: I was gonna make me sick. I was going to
- 38:44Speaker 1: recommend the Rams with the Cardinals, all right, if I
- 38:48Speaker 1: had to pick Rams. Nobody wants to bet the Rams,
- 38:55Speaker 1: That's true. Nobody in the public does, whise guys do.
- 38:58Speaker 1: But like to me, the Saints are of us. Feel
- 39:00Speaker 1: strongly about the Saints like I leaned Panthers, and you know,
- 39:03Speaker 1: I feel like that's why it's the play where it's
- 39:05Speaker 1: like I just didn't really do that one as a
- 39:07Speaker 1: great one, but it's like the more I'm thinking about
- 39:09Speaker 1: it's just like, man, that that's gonna take. It feels
- 39:11Speaker 1: like the Bucks last week. It takes balls to go
- 39:12Speaker 1: against Carolina as a dog. Carolina is a good team.
- 39:16Speaker 1: It takes more balls to bet on the Rams at
- 39:18Speaker 1: six and a half after what agree with them plus
- 39:22Speaker 1: six and a half and you're right, Denver is already
- 39:24Speaker 1: shifted to minus two. Now, yeah, I mean that lines.
- 39:28Speaker 1: You know, it was running down increased juice at fan
- 39:31Speaker 1: duel at two and a half, So to be honest,
- 39:35Speaker 1: at two and a half with the increased juice, I
- 39:38Speaker 1: didn't bet it. I decided you know what. I'm on
- 39:43Speaker 1: the Broncos, riding with the Broncos. That's right, Broncos. That's
- 39:47Speaker 1: just a great number of Herbert does play. I know,
- 39:52Speaker 1: I know, I might have missed. I might have missed.
- 39:55Speaker 1: I don't know. It's sometimes it's so complicated, Simon, what
- 39:57Speaker 1: do we think about? We need to pick a fifth game.
- 40:00Speaker 1: I promised the fans I wouldn't do the Colts had
- 40:03Speaker 1: too many complaints. I won't do it. I won't do
- 40:06Speaker 1: and that was one of those other things they make
- 40:07Speaker 1: our big balls. But I'm not doing it. People relax.
- 40:09Speaker 1: People just got really upset there, like but they've quit.
- 40:12Speaker 1: I know, I've said they quit and we won't do it.
- 40:14Speaker 1: It's painful though, because I do love the Colts. But
- 40:18Speaker 1: we'll stay away. We'll stay away. I think we got
- 40:21Speaker 1: to do one of the two big spread games, either
- 40:24Speaker 1: the Giants Eagles or the Cardinals Miners or the sam
- 40:29Speaker 1: how Led Commanders. Couldn't run away faster from that game
- 40:34Speaker 1: because I was like, I loved I love them especially
- 40:37Speaker 1: it's gonna be anarchy. But even when I heard they
- 40:39Speaker 1: were gonna do like a back and forth, like he'll
- 40:41Speaker 1: play a couple of snaps and Sam was gonna come in.
- 40:43Speaker 1: I I basically bought out positions the five and a half.
- 40:46Speaker 1: I was just like, there's no way I'm letting them
- 40:48Speaker 1: screw around with Dallas. They want that game, like I I.
- 40:51Speaker 1: The more I read it seems like Dallas is like
- 40:53Speaker 1: really actually playing that game straight where they want to
- 40:55Speaker 1: win it because they still think they can get that
- 40:57Speaker 1: one seed. So we're not the one seed, but win
- 40:59Speaker 1: the division um Giants or Arizona because it is a
- 41:05Speaker 1: coin flip. I mean, I truthfully, I've only bet Arizona.
- 41:09Speaker 1: I haven't bet the Giants yet, so I don't feel
- 41:11Speaker 1: great about either. I'll be honest, Like the Giants, I
- 41:14Speaker 1: feel great about the money line because I do think
- 41:17Speaker 1: they could try to play spoiler. But it's also the
- 41:20Speaker 1: fear of they really are going to sit everyone, and
- 41:23Speaker 1: it's all everyone. You know, they might already be prepping
- 41:28Speaker 1: for the Vikings, or they know that they're going to
- 41:30Speaker 1: be facing or they're gonna be facing the Eagles, so
- 41:32Speaker 1: why show them anything? And there's no Hopkins, let you
- 41:34Speaker 1: know that, right for Arizona, Hopkins is sitting now. Fourteen
- 41:40Speaker 1: is a big number. It's too big of a number
- 41:43Speaker 1: in the NFL. That's the Cardinals. Cardinals. There, we got it.
- 41:48Speaker 1: I guess it's the last week of the year and
- 41:49Speaker 1: this is just a massive number. When do you see
- 41:53Speaker 1: a fourteen points bread? It feels different with the Giants
- 41:59Speaker 1: than with the Cardinals. Cardinals can let it all fly, right,
- 42:03Speaker 1: and whereas like the the Giants have reason to hold back.
- 42:09Speaker 1: All Right, I'll be talking because, like I said, I've
- 42:11Speaker 1: already bet the Cardinals. I took because I didn't think
- 42:13Speaker 1: it was gonna come down. I'm with you. I think
- 42:14Speaker 1: the fourteen's egregious like this, this should be closer at
- 42:18Speaker 1: twelve and a half. Thirteen. Um, just a little nerve
- 42:21Speaker 1: wracking has a moved. It just shows you that the
- 42:23Speaker 1: pros are kind of avoiding these big gas spreads. I guess, um.
- 42:28Speaker 1: I know one smart group that came in on the
- 42:29Speaker 1: Eagles at thirteen and thirteen and a half. But that's it, Like,
- 42:33Speaker 1: I don't know anyone else that's bet these games. Really. Um,
- 42:36Speaker 1: but I'll take I'll take you with the fourteen with you, child,
- 42:38Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that down. Let's do it. Let's do it.
- 42:43Speaker 1: So what five you have more? One more thing? You
- 42:46Speaker 1: brought up the player incentives betting on those props. Action
- 42:52Speaker 1: Network is working on the story right now. Should be
- 42:55Speaker 1: up by the end of the day. Uh, there's multiple
- 42:58Speaker 1: people working on it. I am told in Rio time,
- 43:04Speaker 1: so uh quick up. I just got a message from
- 43:07Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell about a couple of listeners took the Bears
- 43:10Speaker 1: the first half. I gave out. Yeah, please buy out.
- 43:13Speaker 1: I refused to have money on Nathan Peterman. Uh, I'll
- 43:17Speaker 1: buy it, and I think a bad number two. I
- 43:19Speaker 1: think I took like, uh four and a half or
- 43:21Speaker 1: four with the Vikings was obviously the line of move
- 43:24Speaker 1: once the Peterman news came out. But yeah, completely bought
- 43:26Speaker 1: out of that position. It's a dead bet. I mean,
- 43:28Speaker 1: I try to get advantage. I thought it was gonna
- 43:30Speaker 1: be justin Fields obviously when that news came out of
- 43:32Speaker 1: wasn't him the line moved. I can't do it, can't
- 43:35Speaker 1: cannot bet on Peterman even a first half bet. So yeah,
- 43:38Speaker 1: if you, if you took it, I buy out already
- 43:40Speaker 1: did are five right now? Brown's plus two and a half,
- 43:44Speaker 1: Titans plus six Rons, plus six and a half Lions
- 43:47Speaker 1: plus four and a half Cards plus fourteen foxhol Brown's
- 43:52Speaker 1: plus two and a half Titans plus six and a
- 43:55Speaker 1: half exactly it is, Simon says, exact decision. Broncos plus
- 43:59Speaker 1: three and a half chose that on Tuesday, Big Balls
- 44:04Speaker 1: Rams six and a half. Scoot Roulette. It all comes
- 44:07Speaker 1: down to this week reminder. Some people ask me on
- 44:12Speaker 1: Twitter sometimes, can you explain the concept of scoot Roulette.
- 44:15Speaker 1: Bob Scucci, longtime Las Vegas casino executive. I've known the
- 44:20Speaker 1: guy for twenty five years. I wrote a book called
- 44:22Speaker 1: The Odds in about guys who bet on sports for
- 44:26Speaker 1: a living. I spent six months in Vegas, was with
- 44:29Speaker 1: professional betters and with bookmakers. They were all sort of
- 44:32Speaker 1: trying to beat each other in a game. And one
- 44:36Speaker 1: of the bookmakers who I profiled was Bob Scucci, who
- 44:38Speaker 1: was one of the bookmakers at the Stardust Hotel, which
- 44:41Speaker 1: was the place making all the lines at the time
- 44:44Speaker 1: pre sort of internet days, right when the Internet was
- 44:47Speaker 1: becoming a thing. Uh Scooch then came on and was
- 44:50Speaker 1: with me on the podcast at DESPN for years. On
- 44:52Speaker 1: the podcast here he got elevated into bigger jobs. Wasn't
- 44:55Speaker 1: really following week to week what's happening in the lines anymore,
- 44:59Speaker 1: but he and I played a game every week called
- 45:01Speaker 1: scoot Roulette, where he picked the game and I picked
- 45:03Speaker 1: a game. He went head to head Simon and I
- 45:06Speaker 1: have brought that back to honor Bob Scucci and his
- 45:09Speaker 1: contributions to the world of sports betting. So we go
- 45:12Speaker 1: head to head all we all season long, one game
- 45:16Speaker 1: when all hope is lost, all that's left is relief.
- 45:21Speaker 1: Let's play scoots Roulette, Simon. I think I won last week.
- 45:27Speaker 1: He did, so I get to choose first, and I
- 45:30Speaker 1: think we're tied. We are. This is for for all
- 45:33Speaker 1: the morables unless we keep going playoffs. It's all the
- 45:36Speaker 1: marbles right here. I am gonna go with Jesus Christ.
- 45:42Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go with I can't believe I'm
- 45:46Speaker 1: saying this, but I look at this and feel like
- 45:48Speaker 1: the best value best in it. I'm going with the
- 45:51Speaker 1: Browns plus two and a half. That's smart, I'll go.
- 45:55Speaker 1: I'll go with our team Tennessee give me plus six.
- 45:59Speaker 1: I came down too. I came down to the Browns
- 46:02Speaker 1: and the Rams. Yeah. I just I just knew coming
- 46:06Speaker 1: in this week that she was gonna be want my
- 46:08Speaker 1: bigger bets. It's just that's I can't help it. It's
- 46:13Speaker 1: it's it's nothing personal, Jaguars. I love you guys, but
- 46:16Speaker 1: it's a good number. Alrighty, we did miss uh Tampa
- 46:20Speaker 1: Bay in Atlanta on Tuesday. Someone pointed that out on
- 46:23Speaker 1: Twitter as well. I sometimes I'm looking at the schedule
- 46:28Speaker 1: on my screen and in the app, and sometimes they
- 46:31Speaker 1: don't line up, and I think I missed the game.
- 46:33Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I had already been up at
- 46:35Speaker 1: that point for eighteen hours, and Chad usually goes to
- 46:37Speaker 1: bet at eight, So that was the late show for
- 46:39Speaker 1: the boys. Exactly. We were way off on that day.
- 46:44Speaker 1: I had to go back and listen because I didn't
- 46:45Speaker 1: remember a thing I said on that show. It was
- 46:47Speaker 1: the right time that happens. Yeah, I was. I think
- 46:51Speaker 1: I was asleep midway through the fact that I've already
- 46:53Speaker 1: don't know, probably close to k now run out bet
- 46:57Speaker 1: on Atlanta for most of these guys. So they're like it, Alanna,
- 47:00Speaker 1: I'll take Atlanta with them, and just it makes sense
- 47:02Speaker 1: where they're coming from, right Atlanta. They have a bunch
- 47:04Speaker 1: of guys or try hards. They're gonna play their starters.
- 47:07Speaker 1: We expect Tampa not to play that many starters, then
- 47:10Speaker 1: the rest they rest a couple of key guys in
- 47:13Speaker 1: their defense at Lanta will be able to run it
- 47:14Speaker 1: all over them like a Lanna. Still still business usual
- 47:17Speaker 1: for this Falcons team. So I kind of wanted to
- 47:19Speaker 1: stay away from it because I was so pissed with
- 47:21Speaker 1: them for burn us last week. But I gotta move on.
- 47:23Speaker 1: It's a new week. Atlanta is the right side, so
- 47:26Speaker 1: it won't be one of my five bigger bets, but
- 47:28Speaker 1: I'm just gonna follow the pros in be Atlanta. Here.
- 47:32Speaker 1: My dog, your dog, your dog blocks dog round Robin
- 47:39Speaker 1: Robin every time Evan Evan tweets out. It's been historically horrible.
- 47:44Speaker 1: Now for nine weeks, been in the underdogs money line
- 47:48Speaker 1: who we're still doing these with us? It's been brutal.
- 47:51Speaker 1: We just keep getting these games too. Were like leading
- 47:53Speaker 1: with these dogs all game and they'll just lose at
- 47:54Speaker 1: the very end, so we still cover, but it's not
- 47:57Speaker 1: helping our money line around. Robins out at all. Four
- 48:00Speaker 1: of the games I would take are the ones we
- 48:02Speaker 1: bet like Brown's Titans, Rams, Lions. I agree with all
- 48:08Speaker 1: of them. The long star, freeing Chicago Bear fans, Let's
- 48:12Speaker 1: throw at Houston in there. The Bears can get the
- 48:14Speaker 1: number one pick the Texans. I think you have to
- 48:17Speaker 1: lose Texans. If Texans win, you guys lose, you get
- 48:20Speaker 1: the number one pick. Their two and thirteen and one.
- 48:22Speaker 1: You guys are three and thirteen, so they would be
- 48:24Speaker 1: they would have whatever half a win more than you guys.
- 48:27Speaker 1: So yeah, exactly, we'll do that for Chad. Then we'll
- 48:29Speaker 1: throw in Houston Houston fans. Houston Brown's Titans, Rams Lions
- 48:41Speaker 1: are the five for the money line round Robin Para.
- 48:46Speaker 1: I love it, and if you hate, you hate that.
- 48:49Speaker 1: The Houston pick the Rams one like Chad was saying,
- 48:52Speaker 1: I love that one. All right, Browns are the foxhold
- 48:57Speaker 1: at plus two and a half. Simon says, is Titans
- 49:00Speaker 1: plus six and a half. Exact decision. Remember we said
- 49:03Speaker 1: it on Tuesday, so we ld Browns plus three and
- 49:06Speaker 1: a half. That line is now Brown's minus two big Balls,
- 49:10Speaker 1: Rams plus six and a half. Scoot Roulette Titans plus six,
- 49:16Speaker 1: Browns plus two and a half. Simon likes the Titans,
- 49:18Speaker 1: Chad likes the Browns. Money lying around Robin Texans, Brown's Titans,
- 49:28Speaker 1: Rams Lions. We're good to go. This has been the
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