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- 0:04Speaker 1: All systems going clear, we lift up. What's up everyone?
- 0:36Speaker 1: Tyler Tambaline here aka Totagg and Tambo back for another
- 0:40Speaker 1: edition of Leverage Lane here on the ship at Nation
- 0:42Speaker 1: YouTube Station. Got my guy Alex Blickle here with me.
- 0:45Speaker 1: As always, gonna get to the Travelers Championship, but we
- 0:48Speaker 1: are coming off of a major week. We're coming off
- 0:50Speaker 1: of some major news in the golf world, so we're
- 0:52Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit about that. We've got a
- 0:54Speaker 1: pretty good topic for today, one that I know a
- 0:56Speaker 1: lot of people struggle with, so we'll go through that
- 0:58Speaker 1: in the Evergreen section. Then we'll get as usual, breaking
- 1:01Speaker 1: down the chalk build for the week, how we can
- 1:03Speaker 1: leverage the chalk build, the betting breakdown, the one and
- 1:06Speaker 1: done segment, and then of course our Leverage Lane at
- 1:08Speaker 1: the end, letting you know how we're going from a
- 1:10Speaker 1: single entry perspective this week. Big week ahead over on DraftKings,
- 1:14Speaker 1: it is the Fantasy Golf World Championship Round one, so
- 1:17Speaker 1: two hundred contestants will play down the top one hundred
- 1:20Speaker 1: we'll move on into Round two next week. It's a
- 1:23Speaker 1: I think minimum prize right now for the two hundred
- 1:26Speaker 1: is seven thousand per person already, I myself have a couple.
- 1:29Speaker 1: I've seen some in the chat that have some, and
- 1:31Speaker 1: I know it's a big week ahead for many with
- 1:33Speaker 1: those seats, So good luck to everybody from that perspective. Alex,
- 1:35Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring you in man. Before I do, just
- 1:38Speaker 1: want to say, first off, shout out to our guy W. T. Reid.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Last week was giving away the one hundred dollars ship
- 1:43Speaker 1: It Nation membership. The winner of that had your guy.
- 1:47Speaker 1: You liked Ryan Fox quite a bit. Last week it
- 1:49Speaker 1: was Michael Hambley six 's eight six' three was the,
- 1:53Speaker 1: winner Said Ryan. Fox the best play in the six,
- 1:55Speaker 1: Thousands Windy lynx type. Golfer really good week For Ryan
- 1:58Speaker 1: fox and the best of the the six k's out
- 2:00Speaker 1: of those comments, There so shout out To Michael hambley
- 2:03Speaker 1: six eight sixty. Three but what's what's going, on my?
- 2:05Speaker 1: Friend happy to be back with, you and what do
- 2:07Speaker 1: you think of THE Us?
- 2:08Speaker 2: OPEN i really enjoyed THE Us.
- 2:10Speaker 3: OPEN i did think there were a couple things that
- 2:12Speaker 3: could have made it even, Better like the biggest one
- 2:15Speaker 3: IS i wish we had gotten to see a firm
- 2:18Speaker 3: golf course all four days instead of just the last.
- 2:21Speaker 3: DAY i know it would have made scoring more, difficult
- 2:24Speaker 3: BUT i made this point With, pats like players expect
- 2:29Speaker 3: conditions to be extremely difficult when the wind is up
- 2:32Speaker 3: as much as it was On thursday And, saturday and
- 2:35Speaker 3: it was like THE usga tried to make it such
- 2:38Speaker 3: that scoring conditions were like equally difficult for all four
- 2:42Speaker 3: days instead of letting it play super hard when when
- 2:44Speaker 3: the weather dictated, that and so they kept things really soft.
- 2:48Speaker 3: EARLY i think they needed to keep the green slow
- 2:51Speaker 3: early in the week with all that. Wind they didn't
- 2:53Speaker 3: need to keep the greens as soft as they, were
- 2:55Speaker 3: and actually like they were On thursday, MORNING i think
- 2:58Speaker 3: you could even make an argument that they were so
- 3:00Speaker 3: soft that it was hurting. Players and it was even
- 3:03Speaker 3: tougher because of how soft it was because they couldn't
- 3:05Speaker 3: control the spin into the, wind and like every into
- 3:08Speaker 3: the wind shot was just ripping back off the front
- 3:10Speaker 3: of the, green off those big false fronts like on
- 3:12Speaker 3: ten and they were just helpless that. Way SO i
- 3:15Speaker 3: didn't love that aspect of, it but from the, scores
- 3:19Speaker 3: like you can, tell it's still played like a phenomenal.
- 3:21Speaker 3: TEST i was watching with my dad On sunday and
- 3:24Speaker 3: like he kept making the point, that, yeah he's Played
- 3:27Speaker 3: pinehurst a, ton and he kept, saying, like these greens
- 3:30Speaker 3: remind me Of, pinehurst but they're even tougher because At
- 3:34Speaker 3: pinehurst you have a lot of those instances where like
- 3:37Speaker 3: one side of the green is just a total runoff
- 3:40Speaker 3: far away from the.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Green you don't.
- 3:42Speaker 3: Have instances At pinehurst like number ten At shinnacock where
- 3:46Speaker 3: that's the case both at the front of the green
- 3:48Speaker 3: it's gonna come down off the front to like fifty
- 3:50Speaker 3: yards away and in the back of the green it's
- 3:52Speaker 3: gonna go way back, behind and you just don't have
- 3:55Speaker 3: like that severe of a two sided. Penalty and you could, Tell,
- 4:00Speaker 3: oh the players were really struggling with that all. Week
- 4:01Speaker 3: you saw down eleven as. Well it was just a
- 4:05Speaker 3: really really unique test for these, players and that, like
- 4:09Speaker 3: that's the ultimate excitement for, me is watching these guys
- 4:12Speaker 3: deal with something that they don't deal with on a typical.
- 4:14Speaker 2: Basis.
- 4:15Speaker 1: YEAH i don't know if it'll be a popular. Opinion
- 4:16Speaker 1: it could be the opposite of what people, think BUT
- 4:18Speaker 1: i thought it was. Fine like to, me the setup
- 4:20Speaker 1: of it, was you, know it's what we always get
- 4:22Speaker 1: A Us Open we saw this a few years back
- 4:24Speaker 1: when it was Like xander And ricky shot a six
- 4:26Speaker 1: under On day. ONE i THINK i might even have
- 4:28Speaker 1: been lacc which ended up being like a comp with the.
- 4:30Speaker 1: Window but it was like the same type of, thing
- 4:32Speaker 1: and then By saturday the balls were bouncing off the
- 4:35Speaker 1: greens and it was, Like, okay we're. Backs THE usga
- 4:37Speaker 1: got us covered, here and so it's always something there'd
- 4:40Speaker 1: be nothing to complain about if it wasn't. That BUT
- 4:42Speaker 1: i would, say like, OVERALL i, mean don't fully. DISAGREE
- 4:44Speaker 1: i just think it's like we did get a good.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Week LIKE i know people always say, too AND i,
- 4:49Speaker 1: do AND i know you, do AND i. Do we
- 4:50Speaker 1: love seeing the. Carnage we hate just Seeing birdie fests
- 4:52Speaker 1: all the. Time and we'll get to that in a
- 4:54Speaker 1: second with some of the news coming up this season
- 4:56Speaker 1: for THE pga or in the, FUTURE i should, say
- 4:58Speaker 1: maybe not this. Season it might be twenty twenty, eight
- 5:00Speaker 1: but just noting. It it's like this type of event
- 5:03Speaker 1: where you know everyone says, that BUT i never see
- 5:06Speaker 1: people going ON x Or twitter what everyone call, it being, like,
- 5:08Speaker 1: MAN i really love watching every single day of people
- 5:12Speaker 1: just getting. Crushed they you like to see it some
- 5:14Speaker 1: you want to see bad shots get punished all of,
- 5:16Speaker 1: that but it's kind of like a it's a, sculpture
- 5:18Speaker 1: it's an. Artwork it's a piece of, Like, okay how
- 5:20Speaker 1: does the whole thing play? Out and, again we, know
- 5:23Speaker 1: you know golf, djns especially in THE dfs streets that
- 5:26Speaker 1: we're focused, on it's like they can't have patients even
- 5:28Speaker 1: past the first. Hole but it's like over overall phenomenal.
- 5:32Speaker 1: Event and then the other side of it is the
- 5:33Speaker 1: windy c stuff like man forget just like The Sunday
- 5:37Speaker 1: we'll go to that in a. Minute we'll talk about
- 5:39Speaker 1: the other golf stuff, first BUT i will just say
- 5:41Speaker 1: quickly it's, like, oh how lucky he got this, way
- 5:44Speaker 1: or how much he pulled out this he put them
- 5:46Speaker 1: for four? Days he and beats the world number one
- 5:48Speaker 1: on the last day and doesn't Like it's like when
- 5:50Speaker 1: people say a million maker lineup is bad and we've
- 5:53Speaker 1: definitely judged it before, Him, like, well that's pretty. Interesting
- 5:56Speaker 1: but if it's if he's that, bad how's he winning
- 5:57Speaker 1: a second? One how's he just? Win it's like he's
- 6:01Speaker 1: not that. Bad it's just you gotta gotta give the
- 6:02Speaker 1: guys flowers at some point. Here that was incredible for four.
- 6:05Speaker 3: Days, yeah AND i think the narrative that he got,
- 6:09Speaker 3: really really lucky throughout the. Week there are certainly times
- 6:12Speaker 3: when he did get. Lucky BUT i also think that
- 6:15Speaker 3: it needs to be. Said you could tell from the
- 6:18Speaker 3: conversations that he was having with his, Caddy Big Wave,
- 6:21Speaker 3: dave that they had it mapped, out like the entire golf.
- 6:25Speaker 3: Course they had the fescue mapped out for what parts
- 6:27Speaker 3: were really penal and which parts were kind, of you,
- 6:30Speaker 3: know down grain and thinned. Out you could hear it
- 6:33Speaker 3: on his his layup on seventeen when he was in
- 6:37Speaker 3: that really bad lie On sunday and he, asked like point,
- 6:40Speaker 3: blank like what's the fescu like through to the, Right
- 6:44Speaker 3: And caddy immediately, says, like it's really thick and penal
- 6:46Speaker 3: until you get past the bunker and then it really thins.
- 6:49Speaker 3: Out like they had every aspect of the fescue mapped.
- 6:51Speaker 3: Out and, so you, KNOW i talk a lot about
- 6:54Speaker 3: like our stroke, skin driving accuracy and how missus on what.
- 6:57Speaker 3: Not all misses are created equal and there's a good
- 7:01Speaker 3: miss and a bad miss on every. Hole wyndham obviously
- 7:03Speaker 3: missed a lot of fairways into, fascue but you know
- 7:05Speaker 3: what he WAS i can pretty much guarantee you that
- 7:08Speaker 3: on every single hole where he was in. Rescue, now
- 7:11Speaker 3: obviously like a lot of those were also bad, swings
- 7:14Speaker 3: but he probably had a sense of IF i miss
- 7:17Speaker 3: on this, HOLE i can miss right and be, FINE
- 7:20Speaker 3: i can't miss, left and the next HOLES i can't miss,
- 7:23Speaker 3: left all, RIGHT i can miss, LEFT i can't miss.
- 7:26Speaker 3: Right and he kept missing in the right spots in
- 7:29Speaker 3: the thinned out, spots and so it wasn't just, luck,
- 7:32Speaker 3: obviously like there is some, luck, Right, like even if
- 7:35Speaker 3: you're missing in the correct spot of the, fscue you
- 7:37Speaker 3: can still end up in a really bad, Lie and,
- 7:39Speaker 3: similarly you can get it into the wrong spot and
- 7:41Speaker 3: ended up with a good.
- 7:42Speaker 2: Lie but for the.
- 7:43Speaker 3: Most, PART i think they did a really good job
- 7:46Speaker 3: of just understanding which parts of the fascue were we're.
- 7:49Speaker 3: Playable and that's also just like an understanding of his
- 7:52Speaker 3: own game that, like he's probably not going to go
- 7:54Speaker 3: seventy two holes without some errant t. Shots you, know
- 7:57Speaker 3: he went into the week saying like he really likes.
- 7:59Speaker 3: This of, course because he likes wide. Fairways he knows
- 8:02Speaker 3: that that's part of the you, know part of what
- 8:05Speaker 3: holds him back at times is that driving. Accuracy and
- 8:07Speaker 3: so they had a game plan specifically for THEN i
- 8:10Speaker 3: think they executed it really, well nailed.
- 8:12Speaker 1: It and to relate it back TO, dfs this is
- 8:13Speaker 1: the evergreen session of the show, anyway to you, know
- 8:16Speaker 1: the SEGMENT i should say so just to note. IT
- 8:18Speaker 1: i talk about this as a ton IN Dfs. Mastermind
- 8:20Speaker 1: it's like it's a mindset. Thing but it's also you, know,
- 8:22Speaker 1: important especially when you play an individual game like golf
- 8:25Speaker 1: OR dfs and try and relate it back from. That but,
- 8:27Speaker 1: preparation this is for all. Life by the, way preparation
- 8:30Speaker 1: greater than. Planning everyone plans to PLAY dfs this, week
- 8:35Speaker 1: how many people actually? Prepping those here watching, This you're
- 8:37Speaker 1: doing some prep. Work you're finding out what does the
- 8:39Speaker 1: common build look, like what does the chalk? Build how
- 8:40Speaker 1: could we leverage that you're you're preparing for if, this
- 8:44Speaker 1: then that because we know the outcomes of the picks
- 8:46Speaker 1: and plays are going to be the, outcome but the
- 8:48Speaker 1: process is what gets us to, there and those just
- 8:50Speaker 1: become the product of the. Process now going back to
- 8:53Speaker 1: preparation greater than. PLANNING i always said this like a
- 8:55Speaker 1: petty theft IN. Nba one of the, best maybe the
- 8:58Speaker 1: best to ever do. IT i think nbadfs, specifically he
- 9:02Speaker 1: had talked at one point publicly about having multiple csvs
- 9:07Speaker 1: ready to roll At. Locke so he wasn't just planning
- 9:11Speaker 1: to play dfs that night like everybody else, was even
- 9:13Speaker 1: some of the better. Players he was prepped for if this,
- 9:16Speaker 1: injury than THIS, csv if this piece of news, this
- 9:19Speaker 1: and so he could react faster than most on top
- 9:22Speaker 1: of the other factors and how good he was and
- 9:23Speaker 1: thoughts about how he plays and knowing rotations and building
- 9:26Speaker 1: his own projections and all these factors so that preparation
- 9:29Speaker 1: is so. High windham knows and, look all kinds of
- 9:31Speaker 1: pros do. This i'm sure a ton of other golfers
- 9:33Speaker 1: were just as. Prepared maybe they just didn't execute as.
- 9:36Speaker 1: Much and we'll be talking about execution when we talk
- 9:38Speaker 1: about the new golf world that we're going to get.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Into but just noting, it he was very CLEARLY i
- 9:43Speaker 1: loved your post about that you posted ON x the
- 9:46Speaker 1: other day and you, said like there's got to be
- 9:47Speaker 1: something said about this knowing, that, like, hey my plan
- 9:51Speaker 1: is to be in the. Fairway they're, wide BUT i
- 9:53Speaker 1: know that that's not how my game might be at some,
- 9:55Speaker 1: point OR i know my shots might go awry And
- 9:57Speaker 1: i'm gonna have to think about what's. Next so my
- 10:00Speaker 1: preparation is knowing If i'm playing from, here what's that look?
- 10:04Speaker 1: Like If i'm playing from, here what's that look? Like
- 10:06Speaker 1: and everyone does as much prep as. Possible you heard
- 10:08Speaker 1: our Guy gannon goes to the event boots on the.
- 10:11Speaker 1: Ground you, Say, oh these guys are walking around with
- 10:12Speaker 1: wedges and, putters and that's, it, Man they're trying to do.
- 10:15Speaker 1: That they're all preparing for. Something but for someone to
- 10:18Speaker 1: know their game that, well to, say, like we're gonna
- 10:20Speaker 1: need to know the you, know the gauge of the
- 10:22Speaker 1: rescue and all, that it just it does. Matter it's
- 10:25Speaker 1: those little things that can add up and compound to
- 10:28Speaker 1: eventually pay. Off and it's no different IN. Dfs SO
- 10:30Speaker 1: i don't have anything else you want to add to.
- 10:31Speaker 1: That if, not we'll hop in and start talking about
- 10:34Speaker 1: the changes yesterday and just what your thoughts were on.
- 10:36Speaker 2: It, YEAH i really like these.
- 10:38Speaker 3: CHANGES i think the to be very picky to, start,
- 10:43Speaker 3: LIKE i do wish that there was going to be
- 10:45Speaker 3: more in season turnover between the challenger track and the championship,
- 10:52Speaker 3: track and AND i think part of that is, like,
- 10:54Speaker 3: yeah go.
- 10:55Speaker 1: Ahead WELL i was just SAY i think you should
- 10:57Speaker 1: do you want to frame it up, first because obviously
- 10:58Speaker 1: probably not everybody saw like we assume everyone sees. That
- 11:01Speaker 1: that's my, bad but, like, yeah maybe just frame up
- 11:03Speaker 1: first quickly your, you're you, know three second thoughts on,
- 11:06Speaker 1: that thirty second thoughts on, that and then you can
- 11:07Speaker 1: dive into exactly where you were going with. It that
- 11:09Speaker 1: would be.
- 11:09Speaker 2: Best, yeah it's a good.
- 11:10Speaker 3: Idea so essentially what they're doing is they're creating like
- 11:13Speaker 3: a championship track and a challenger. Track now it's not
- 11:16Speaker 3: entirely clear how this is like super different from THE
- 11:19Speaker 3: Pga tour and the Corn Ferry tour other than the
- 11:21Speaker 3: fact that it's going to be like so, currently you,
- 11:26Speaker 3: know you have you have very DIFFERENT Pga tour events
- 11:30Speaker 3: from only to the next with the signature, events and
- 11:32Speaker 3: you get a total mix of the field where sometimes
- 11:36Speaker 3: you get, like you, know all of the stars and
- 11:39Speaker 3: then a good amount of non stars like you get
- 11:41Speaker 3: in a major championship. Field we're not going to see
- 11:43Speaker 3: that sort of thing on this new championship. Track it's
- 11:46Speaker 3: going to be like the same one hundred and twenty
- 11:48Speaker 3: it might be like one hundred and thirty guys. WHATEVER
- 11:50Speaker 3: i can't remember these act full field.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Size but the key was now we're going to see a.
- 11:55Speaker 3: Cut, Yes so we're getting the full, Field we're getting the,
- 11:58Speaker 3: cut and we're also getting a more spread out schedule
- 12:04Speaker 3: a little bit in the sense, that LIKE i think
- 12:07Speaker 3: the current plan is they want a week off after
- 12:09Speaker 3: every single major, championship so we're not going straight from
- 12:12Speaker 3: major championship to signature event like THE Rbc heritage, anymore
- 12:16Speaker 3: WHICH i think is a really good. Thing we always
- 12:17Speaker 3: kind of look at that it's like this is a
- 12:19Speaker 3: weird week where it feels less, intense but also it's
- 12:21Speaker 3: supposed to be a really important, tournament so that's. Nice
- 12:26Speaker 3: the secondary track will have overlap most, weeks but it's
- 12:32Speaker 3: the challenger track is going to have seven weeks where
- 12:36Speaker 3: it doesn't compete with THE Pga, tour with The championship,
- 12:39Speaker 3: track and those that are going to be like heavier
- 12:42Speaker 3: weighted and a bigger purse or something like, that and
- 12:44Speaker 3: so that aspect of it is. Nice some of the
- 12:47Speaker 3: other THINGS i really like is we don't know exactly
- 12:50Speaker 3: what the format for the playoffs is going to be,
- 12:52Speaker 3: anymore but it's going to include match, play so we
- 12:55Speaker 3: do get that aspect of.
- 12:56Speaker 2: IT i really like that.
- 12:57Speaker 3: The False swing is going to include some JOINT Pga
- 13:02Speaker 3: tour AND Dp World tour kind of collaboration events so
- 13:05Speaker 3: that The championship track players have somewhere to play throughout
- 13:08Speaker 3: the fall if they would. Like and then The False
- 13:11Speaker 3: swing of THE Pga tour specifically is going to be
- 13:14Speaker 3: like a last chance to kind of qualify for The
- 13:17Speaker 3: Challenger tour the following. Year Challenger tour players can move
- 13:21Speaker 3: up within the, season but they have to win, twice
- 13:24Speaker 3: so it's not like we're, getting you, know the THE
- 13:26Speaker 3: a on next ten or The swing five whatever that
- 13:29Speaker 3: we currently, have so that we do get some variation
- 13:32Speaker 3: in the. Fields AND i think that's my biggest complaint
- 13:34Speaker 3: IS i think it's going to feel a lot like
- 13:38Speaker 3: the signature events, have especially from A dfs, perspective where
- 13:42Speaker 3: it feels a little bit like we're just trying to
- 13:44Speaker 3: solve the same puzzle week after week and there's not
- 13:47Speaker 3: enough kind of variation to keep it super fascinating in that.
- 13:50Speaker 3: Regard my hope, though is because there's now just a championship,
- 13:54Speaker 3: track and these guys have their status for the full,
- 13:56Speaker 3: year they don't have to worry about being relegated in.
- 13:58Speaker 3: Season maybe it means that, players especially the guys at
- 14:03Speaker 3: the top who you, know aren't at risk of losing
- 14:07Speaker 3: that status for the next. Year maybe they do take
- 14:10Speaker 3: more weeks off and so at least the top of
- 14:12Speaker 3: the board kind of like this week will look more
- 14:16Speaker 3: kind of diverse from one week to the. NEXT i
- 14:18Speaker 3: think that would be really. Nice but that's that's kind
- 14:21Speaker 3: of unique to us AS dfs, players where, like you,
- 14:23Speaker 3: know the AVERAGE pga tour fan might want to see
- 14:26Speaker 3: all of the players the same players week after week
- 14:29Speaker 3: because those are the players that they know and want
- 14:30Speaker 3: to root.
- 14:30Speaker 1: FOR i had to look. Back it Was august twenty
- 14:33Speaker 1: twenty four WHEN i posted the big thing about match
- 14:35Speaker 1: play needs to come back to. This So i'm happy
- 14:37Speaker 1: that there's gonna be some form of. IT i want
- 14:40Speaker 1: a little bit more, aggressive like if they could somehow
- 14:41Speaker 1: like pick their LIKE i would LOVE i think like
- 14:44Speaker 1: just injecting personality into, it which we'll talk about quickly
- 14:46Speaker 1: with win them here in a second, again but just
- 14:48Speaker 1: the the personality of. It Maybe i'll segue these two
- 14:51Speaker 1: because now they go perfectly. Together so we're just tying
- 14:53Speaker 1: it all together. Now but my point was everyone always, says,
- 14:56Speaker 1: like all but the one seed could lose to. This
- 14:58Speaker 1: first of, all there would be buys or some sort
- 15:00Speaker 1: of seeding set up that. Way usually if there's, not
- 15:02Speaker 1: so be, it or maybe it's like the final thirty,
- 15:03Speaker 1: two and then most of them get taken care of
- 15:06Speaker 1: with money in. Advance, again we don't know how this
- 15:07Speaker 1: is gonna, work but at least my take, is, yes
- 15:09Speaker 1: a one seed can lose to a sixteen seed or
- 15:12Speaker 1: whatever number you want to put on in any type of.
- 15:14Speaker 1: Tournament so by point, being it can. Happen it's that's
- 15:17Speaker 1: the name of the. Game that's the whole. Point and
- 15:19Speaker 1: you're the number one for a. Reason you gotta go
- 15:20Speaker 1: out and hold your own and get the job. Done
- 15:22Speaker 1: oh but it's, golf it's such. Ivory then everything's high.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Variants then it's all hYP, like so could the tournament
- 15:27Speaker 1: Be scotti Shuffler roy McRoy last week at THE us
- 15:29Speaker 1: open destroyed versus the guys around, him and they buy
- 15:32Speaker 1: guys above, Him like, literally you know amateur is doing
- 15:35Speaker 1: good last week versus the Other like anything can. Happen you're,
- 15:37Speaker 1: right it's golf and that's the whole, point but there's
- 15:39Speaker 1: so much more drama to. That you get the storyline
- 15:42Speaker 1: WHAT i wanted to see. HAPPEN i know they won't
- 15:44Speaker 1: go this far because it's like a gentleman's, game which
- 15:47Speaker 1: is gonna what we're gonna get to with The windham
- 15:48Speaker 1: stuff in a minute, Anyway so THAT'S i said i'd.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Segue but the idea of like setting this up where
- 15:54Speaker 1: one could pick then it's, like, yeah there's, variants but
- 15:57Speaker 1: you also chose that, person AND i know that can
- 16:00Speaker 1: spark the other. Person we know the stories from back
- 16:02Speaker 1: in the day in college with Like Brian, harmon who
- 16:04Speaker 1: will be a popular topic this? Week it Was Brian
- 16:06Speaker 1: harmon Versus Ricky. FALLER i Believe ricky was the. Favorite
- 16:08Speaker 1: everyone Loved ricky even back. Then ricky like walked off
- 16:12Speaker 1: on fifteen and it was, like go put your own pin, back,
- 16:13Speaker 1: pal and Then Brian harmon was, like oh really, Okay
- 16:16Speaker 1: Then pinback destroys them on the end and takes them,
- 16:19Speaker 1: out and it was like that was like motivation for.
- 16:21Speaker 1: Him but that's what we. Want that's the drama in match.
- 16:24Speaker 1: Play you want some firing back and. Forth so that
- 16:27Speaker 1: was my. THOUGHT i know they won't go that, route
- 16:28Speaker 1: But i'm still fine with. IT i think it makes it.
- 16:30Speaker 1: EXCITING i think it gets some really good setups and
- 16:33Speaker 1: if you do it right and you can have more
- 16:35Speaker 1: matchups on the. COURSE i know people talk ABOUT, tv
- 16:37Speaker 1: well that's the PGA's issue in its own right. Anyway
- 16:41Speaker 1: and WHY i SAID i wanted to sort of talk
- 16:42Speaker 1: together on all of this. ONE i said right, away
- 16:45Speaker 1: if they're running these events, congruently like we can't even
- 16:47Speaker 1: get shots on the main event that we want to. See,
- 16:49Speaker 1: now they're gonna be watching two different, networks two different.
- 16:51Speaker 1: Things don't know how they're gonna do it to play both.
- 16:53Speaker 1: Events i'm guessing we just maybe won't see as much
- 16:55Speaker 1: of the other. One who. Knows but there's some real
- 16:57Speaker 1: names on that other. Tour somebody posted a list of. It,
- 16:59Speaker 1: YES i think WAS pga Tout john shout out to,
- 17:01Speaker 1: him AND i think it was, like you, know Will,
- 17:03Speaker 1: Zala taurus And i'm trying to think of a bunch of,
- 17:05Speaker 1: others but there's enough good names on there that it's, like,
- 17:07Speaker 1: OKAY i would have interest in still tuning into. That
- 17:10Speaker 1: AND i think one thing people get wrong on this
- 17:12Speaker 1: type of stuff is, like, oh because it's THE Pga,
- 17:16Speaker 1: tour they're immune, to you, know marketing and. Execution, well
- 17:20Speaker 1: first of, all they're losing sponsors hand over. FIST i
- 17:22Speaker 1: think The FedEx cup thing is almost done, anyway so that's.
- 17:24Speaker 1: Fine they're just gonna probably get a new one if
- 17:26Speaker 1: they don't renew. It but like we've Seen honda and
- 17:29Speaker 1: big names leave and that's. Fine BUT i think people
- 17:32Speaker 1: forget like announcing stuff and launching stuff is way easier
- 17:37Speaker 1: than actual. Execution that's the, key, right talking about stuff
- 17:41Speaker 1: and walking talk and walk very. Different and if you
- 17:44Speaker 1: don't remember or, recall go look Up Fire. Festival look
- 17:47Speaker 1: phenomenal on, paper looked like one of the best experiences
- 17:50Speaker 1: you would ever go, to and you get there and
- 17:51Speaker 1: it's like tents AND pbmj. Sandwiches so talking about something
- 17:55Speaker 1: and launching something and actually executing on it are two different.
- 17:58Speaker 1: Things it's not LIKE Pga tour has incredible on an execution,
- 18:01Speaker 1: level but they are a higher, class top of the,
- 18:03Speaker 1: line you, know, Organization so you would expect this to be.
- 18:07Speaker 1: Good all we can do is be positive about what
- 18:09Speaker 1: we've seen so.
- 18:10Speaker 3: Far and to that, point like one of the other
- 18:12Speaker 3: things that they're talking about is they they want the
- 18:14Speaker 3: playoffs to be kind of a rotation of really well
- 18:18Speaker 3: respected golf courses that people will, recognize but that aren't
- 18:22Speaker 3: consistently played on, tour and so like East lake might
- 18:26Speaker 3: have its own, event or it might get it might
- 18:28Speaker 3: be part of a rotation instead of always being the
- 18:31Speaker 3: site of the the you, know the culmination of the
- 18:35Speaker 3: of the. Playoffs But rollup also said that means he,
- 18:39Speaker 3: wants you, Know cyprus to be one of the. Events
- 18:43Speaker 3: he Wants seminole and, Yeah Pine valley and like that
- 18:48Speaker 3: that's the part of it to, me which is like
- 18:51Speaker 3: a bit reminiscent of The Fire, festival as you, said,
- 18:54Speaker 3: like are you actually gonna be able to pull that
- 18:55Speaker 3: off or are you just kind of blowing smoke and
- 18:57Speaker 3: hoping that by saying this publicly that one of those
- 19:00Speaker 3: courses that will be like wh, yeah, SURE i guess
- 19:02Speaker 3: we can do. That AS i have no idea if
- 19:04Speaker 3: that's like actually something that's been brought. Up but the
- 19:07Speaker 3: part THAT i do expect to happen that they talked
- 19:09Speaker 3: about is also a rotation kind of adding some courses
- 19:14Speaker 3: from big markets Like New, York like we'll talk about
- 19:18Speaker 3: that a little bit more, soon But philly a good,
- 19:21Speaker 3: Chance chicago, thing you, know big cities like that that
- 19:24Speaker 3: you know you're gonna get really good, turnout really good
- 19:26Speaker 3: kind of fan participation. From and then also just like
- 19:32Speaker 3: there are some awesome golf courses in those areas that
- 19:35Speaker 3: aren't part of THE pga tour right, now far better
- 19:39Speaker 3: golf courses than some of the courses that you go,
- 19:41Speaker 3: to like, obviously you know early in the, season think
- 19:44Speaker 3: About Like i'll use my dad as an example again
- 19:48Speaker 3: BECAUSE i think we've talked about this.
- 19:50Speaker 2: Before like he's he's the perfect kind of you, know
- 19:52Speaker 2: just casual golf.
- 19:53Speaker 3: Fan he he likes tuning in at, times but it's
- 19:56Speaker 3: never appointment viewing for. Him but one of the things
- 19:58Speaker 3: that will make him too in will make the extra
- 20:01Speaker 3: effort where it's not just Like, Okay i'm on the
- 20:04Speaker 3: couch right now AND i know golf's, ON i might
- 20:06Speaker 3: as well put it, on but, like, actually you, know
- 20:07Speaker 3: make a point to that's SOMETHING i want to go
- 20:10Speaker 3: and watch. Later is the golf course. Itself he wants
- 20:12Speaker 3: to tune Into Pebble, beach he wants to tune in
- 20:15Speaker 3: To riviera and To Bay hill and golf courses like.
- 20:18Speaker 3: That he's not tuning Into Detroit Golf club OR Tbc
- 20:21Speaker 3: Twin cities OR Tbc River highlands like this. Week but
- 20:24Speaker 3: you know, what he will tune Into Cricket, club you,
- 20:27Speaker 3: Know Pine, valley things of that. Nature SO i think that,
- 20:30Speaker 3: too is a really smart thing that Roll up's, doing
- 20:33Speaker 3: and hopefully they can execute and put some really good
- 20:35Speaker 3: golf courses on the schedule that we currently don't see
- 20:37Speaker 3: one hundred percent.
- 20:38Speaker 1: Agree AND i, know like you, said tying that to
- 20:40Speaker 1: what you originally said off the, top that was also
- 20:41Speaker 1: the point of where if we don't, like for, example you,
- 20:43Speaker 1: Know canada gets one event it's The, open and that's,
- 20:46Speaker 1: fair AND i get why that is and all of,
- 20:47Speaker 1: that but my point being now it may be in
- 20:49Speaker 1: a much better position in The new world based off of,
- 20:52Speaker 1: that and, see, uh you, know if it is actually
- 20:55Speaker 1: a champion, event which is also super confusing when they
- 20:59Speaker 1: have The Champions, tour all this by the, way but
- 21:01Speaker 1: just noting. It maybe maybe these are just, placeholders but,
- 21:03Speaker 1: anyway when we see, that that's gonna be like a
- 21:06Speaker 1: loaded event. Now so it's, like, yeah you, do got
- 21:08Speaker 1: to get To ontario most likely where they're gonna have
- 21:10Speaker 1: it somewhere in you, Know toronto or different places. There
- 21:13Speaker 1: but you're gonna get to see everybody or anybody who's
- 21:16Speaker 1: everybody that is showing. Up not every week is gonna
- 21:18Speaker 1: be every top, golfer but you'll see like this year
- 21:21Speaker 1: we were, like oh, man that's much better than we usually.
- 21:23Speaker 1: Get but this will be like a more appointment type
- 21:26Speaker 1: viewing or that type of. Thing. Now the easy way
- 21:29Speaker 1: to spread these courses out and then the segue to
- 21:31Speaker 1: the final topic here is just take all the events
- 21:33Speaker 1: out Of New.
- 21:34Speaker 3: York.
- 21:34Speaker 1: Right that was the POINT i know you'd touched earlier
- 21:37Speaker 1: on a you, know pre. SHOW i think it was
- 21:39Speaker 1: on a post from maybe it Was Emon lynch or
- 21:41Speaker 1: somebody that posts the other But i'll let you dive
- 21:43Speaker 1: into it. First i've got some. Thoughts it may not
- 21:45Speaker 1: be popular, either but let me hear your thoughts first on.
- 21:48Speaker 1: Everything and, yeah the fan we're talking about the, crowd the,
- 21:50Speaker 1: fans A us, open you, know ripping Into Wyndham clark
- 21:53Speaker 1: and all that type of. Stuff like literally every hole
- 21:55Speaker 1: was like going the bunker and all these different. Thoughts
- 21:58Speaker 1: by the, way The rory Big boy, robot it was
- 22:00Speaker 1: pretty good. THERE i like that one question that was. Awesome,
- 22:02Speaker 1: yeah oh, yeah.
- 22:03Speaker 3: Go, ahead yeah that just just to real, Quick we'll
- 22:06Speaker 3: start with That rory. One uh someone was chirping At
- 22:09Speaker 3: rory after, shots so he walks off the t box
- 22:11Speaker 3: and kind of looks back to, like, fine like who's
- 22:13Speaker 3: who's the guy who said?
- 22:14Speaker 2: That sees the guy and.
- 22:16Speaker 3: Just goes like like this showing just that the guy
- 22:20Speaker 3: had a huge. Gut it was just just, awesome awesome
- 22:24Speaker 3: way to could just kind of silently.
- 22:25Speaker 2: Retort so love that From rory.
- 22:28Speaker 3: And to, LIKE i think that kind of runs to
- 22:30Speaker 3: your point about the like injecting some more personality into the.
- 22:33Speaker 3: PLAYOFFS i love the idea of of making them pick
- 22:36Speaker 3: who they're playing.
- 22:37Speaker 2: You you'd get some uh you, know kind of.
- 22:40Speaker 3: Good, natured heated rivalry type stuff THAT i think would
- 22:44Speaker 3: be really fun to. Add but but, yeah so this
- 22:47Speaker 3: is another second time in the last like ten months
- 22:50Speaker 3: where the crowd very clearly crossed the.
- 22:53Speaker 2: Line in or On Long.
- 22:56Speaker 3: Island first was at The ryder cut At bethpage and
- 22:59Speaker 3: now this With. Windom NOW i do think it's it
- 23:01Speaker 3: like it is we're saying that there's a big difference
- 23:04Speaker 3: between what happened At, bethpage where like the crowd was
- 23:09Speaker 3: crossing a lot of lines in a very significant. Way,
- 23:12Speaker 3: uh there were players and spectators who like reported they
- 23:16Speaker 3: didn't feel safe around that. CROWD i don't think anything
- 23:20Speaker 3: like that happened this past week at THE Us. Open
- 23:23Speaker 3: but it was very clearly like this is not the
- 23:26Speaker 3: spirit of, golf and this is and AND i don't
- 23:29Speaker 3: even mean that in like a you, know, oh let's
- 23:31Speaker 3: protect the old way of the, game but like.
- 23:35Speaker 2: There's there's a.
- 23:39Speaker 3: There's like a an element of pride with golf that
- 23:43Speaker 3: is NOT i don't think just stale old man yell
- 23:46Speaker 3: at clouds type thing where you root for things to.
- 23:50Speaker 2: Happen you don't root against things and.
- 23:54Speaker 3: Rooting for a, player like if if you don't Like
- 23:56Speaker 3: windham and you Want scotti to, win root like hell
- 23:59Speaker 3: For scotti to. Win don't openly root Against. Windham AND
- 24:03Speaker 3: i think that that it's not anywhere near as big
- 24:07Speaker 3: of a deal as what happened At, bethpage but it it,
- 24:10Speaker 3: is like you, KNOW i think it is still crossing
- 24:14Speaker 3: the line in some, way and it would to aim
- 24:17Speaker 3: In lynch's, point like what HE i think he said
- 24:20Speaker 3: it on a golf channel something like, That but Like,
- 24:23Speaker 3: Bethpage black is supposed to host THE Pga championship in
- 24:25Speaker 3: twenty thirty, three and his point was that These Long
- 24:28Speaker 3: islanders don't deserve another major championship and that that should be.
- 24:32Speaker 3: Moved AND i don't necessarily agree with. THAT i, think you,
- 24:35Speaker 3: know maybe you, say, like, hey we need the crowd
- 24:39Speaker 3: to be better in twenty thirty, three or then we
- 24:41Speaker 3: are kind of taking things away from you guys for a.
- 24:44Speaker 3: While BUT i think it's it's also like a bit
- 24:47Speaker 3: of an extension of how welcoming THE Pga tour has
- 24:51Speaker 3: been of THE Wm Phoenix, open and and like you,
- 24:56Speaker 3: know it's it's a tough balance because you want to
- 24:59Speaker 3: invite like all these new people into golf, fandom but
- 25:04Speaker 3: you also don't want to ruin what is a really
- 25:07Speaker 3: good kind of culture around the. Sport and that's, why you,
- 25:10Speaker 3: know you have people Like Jeff feinberg, saying shrink the
- 25:14Speaker 3: game at this, point WHICH i do kind of agree,
- 25:16Speaker 3: with at least when it comes to who's, playing not
- 25:19Speaker 3: necessarily who's watching the.
- 25:20Speaker 1: Game. YEAH i got a lot of, THOUGHTS i, guess
- 25:22Speaker 1: like you, know and hard to. TELL i think we
- 25:25Speaker 1: agree on a lot and most AND i think we
- 25:27Speaker 1: still kind of do. Here LIKE i think that this
- 25:28Speaker 1: is the type of thing that gets boiled down and
- 25:30Speaker 1: back with like you, know, okay, true he says disclaimer
- 25:33Speaker 1: Long ahun does not speak for the rest Of New
- 25:34Speaker 1: york embarrassing. Stuff probably. Agree also would say though That
- 25:38Speaker 1: Long island is gonna step up and, say, buddy there
- 25:40Speaker 1: was like two percent of the fans there that were doing.
- 25:43Speaker 1: This the other ninety eight percent we're not bad, People
- 25:45Speaker 1: like what are you put in a stain on our?
- 25:47Speaker 1: Name and again it does get labeled because of where
- 25:49Speaker 1: you are and all, that AND i get. That so
- 25:51Speaker 1: there's there's that aspect to. IT i sort of like
- 25:53Speaker 1: the point you said about like let's really hard for
- 25:55Speaker 1: someone not against, Someone BUT i, guess like where is
- 25:58Speaker 1: the line? Drawn SO i got real problem with events
- 26:02Speaker 1: where people are coming at these people's families and their
- 26:05Speaker 1: wives and their kids and stuff like. That literally cannot do.
- 26:07Speaker 1: That there's just no way in any sport or anything in.
- 26:10Speaker 1: Life is that right in my mind or or my
- 26:12Speaker 1: sort of concept and HOW i live THAT i would
- 26:15Speaker 1: think that's. Correct so it's like that is not what
- 26:16Speaker 1: we're hoping for. Here BUT i think there's another fine
- 26:19Speaker 1: line of something you said that MAYBE i would disagree.
- 26:22Speaker 1: With it's, like SO wm that is to, me And
- 26:26Speaker 1: i've been to it like six. TIMES i talk about
- 26:27Speaker 1: it all the. Time i've ran to. It i've been on,
- 26:29Speaker 1: Sixteen i've been in the boots on the. Skybox i've
- 26:32Speaker 1: finally got someone to let me in, there like things like,
- 26:34Speaker 1: that where it's like that is to, me not even
- 26:36Speaker 1: full golf, fandom that is event. Fandom so many people
- 26:40Speaker 1: there don't care about the game of golf at. All they're,
- 26:42Speaker 1: there and again there's bad eggs in that group as.
- 26:45Speaker 1: Well they get drunk and stumble and ruin it and.
- 26:47Speaker 1: Whatever BUT i mean even in the general scope of
- 26:49Speaker 1: the ninety eight to two percent of those, people they're
- 26:52Speaker 1: there because it's a big. Event that's What rolapp is
- 26:54Speaker 1: going to do if he brings this to all these other.
- 26:56Speaker 1: States that don't get events all the. Time, yes more
- 26:59Speaker 1: people will show. Up you could get more fans out of,
- 27:02Speaker 1: that and so that's where that steps in and makes.
- 27:05Speaker 1: Sense but from like any other, sport one THING i
- 27:08Speaker 1: don't love AND i THINK i actually. DISAGREE i Think
- 27:10Speaker 1: feinberg posted it AND i would disagree is like the
- 27:13Speaker 1: the gentleman's game. Stuff it. IS i get, it but
- 27:16Speaker 1: like and even you, Said i'm not going to the
- 27:17Speaker 1: old ways, Here i'm just noting in. General SO i
- 27:19Speaker 1: agree with your. Generalities but, like there has to be
- 27:22Speaker 1: able to be something if you want real fans of a,
- 27:24Speaker 1: game how can they not boo or do it, like
- 27:26Speaker 1: there has to be. Something it doesn't have to be
- 27:28Speaker 1: booing because that's kind of weird on a golf. Course
- 27:30Speaker 1: BUT i guess my point is there has to be
- 27:32Speaker 1: some version of being able to have a true fan,
- 27:36Speaker 1: side Like i'm here For, Scotti i'm here For rory
- 27:38Speaker 1: or whatever. Respectfully you cannot do it, disrespectfully but there
- 27:42Speaker 1: has to be, something like someone said. IT i don't
- 27:43Speaker 1: know WHO i said this. ONE i would just see
- 27:44Speaker 1: so many things as the week goes, on like imagine
- 27:47Speaker 1: going to the game AND nba players that are shooting
- 27:49Speaker 1: free throws are just silent gym or, like you, know
- 27:53Speaker 1: they get exactly what they want on. Everything the golfers
- 27:57Speaker 1: already get that you do have to shut up when they're,
- 27:59Speaker 1: shooting or you should be, like, yes that's a legit
- 28:02Speaker 1: gentleman's game type. Thing be quiet before someone. Swings, Agreed
- 28:07Speaker 1: but how can there not be the other side of?
- 28:09Speaker 1: It like in the other, sports they got to deal
- 28:11Speaker 1: with so much. More And i'm not saying they have
- 28:12Speaker 1: to be completely like the other, sports BUT i actually
- 28:15Speaker 1: don't think there was anything wrong with. It And i'll say,
- 28:17Speaker 1: this it doesn't seem like anyone crossed the line to
- 28:21Speaker 1: the extent to your, point and you said this as,
- 28:23Speaker 1: well to like what The Ryder cup stuff was with
- 28:25Speaker 1: families And rory's wife and somebody through the beer On
- 28:28Speaker 1: rory's wife or threw an adder or something. Like that's
- 28:30Speaker 1: Insane i'm talking about. Here And i'll say this, TOO
- 28:33Speaker 1: i Think wyndham handled it incredibly well at the. End
- 28:36Speaker 1: i'm not Some wyndham. STAND i don't even like the
- 28:38Speaker 1: guy or care that. MUCH i think it's he's been,
- 28:39Speaker 1: fine but it was Like i'm not AGAINST i don't
- 28:42Speaker 1: pay attention too much to care, like oh but the locker,
- 28:45Speaker 1: Incident oh but the club throw these golfers that show.
- 28:48Speaker 1: Emotion we you, know it's people talk about both. Sides
- 28:51Speaker 1: they want to see Tyro hatton and laugh at him
- 28:53Speaker 1: like pointing a pistol or like a shotgun and making
- 28:55Speaker 1: remarks and hitting the ball or hitting himself or, whatever
- 28:58Speaker 1: but then they don't want to see all this other.
- 29:00Speaker 1: Stuff to, ME i was fine with, it AND i
- 29:02Speaker 1: think the Way windham handle it, SAID i know you
- 29:05Speaker 1: guys hate, me but you KNOW i love. You but
- 29:07Speaker 1: HERE i, am and here's what it, is And i've
- 29:09Speaker 1: got the, Trophy like that's, cool and it's just another
- 29:11Speaker 1: added story to the. EVENT i guarantee you there was
- 29:14Speaker 1: people that talked shit that still, afterwards like damn dude
- 29:18Speaker 1: battled through all of that plus took Down scotty in
- 29:22Speaker 1: a group and won the. Trophy kudos to him type,
- 29:26Speaker 1: thing like you gotta think that. HAPPENS i don't, know
- 29:28Speaker 1: maybe it's, yeah that was my two cents.
- 29:30Speaker 3: To your, Point LIKE i definitely wonder how my own
- 29:35Speaker 3: thoughts might even be different about what happened this week
- 29:39Speaker 3: if not for The Ryder, cup where like we already
- 29:42Speaker 3: were kind of on on on edge or just kind
- 29:47Speaker 3: of looking out for what the fan behavior was like
- 29:50Speaker 3: because Of Bethpage, black where maybe if this was a
- 29:54Speaker 3: one off and this was like the only thing that
- 29:57Speaker 3: the only instance of late where The island fans kind
- 30:00Speaker 3: of really went at a guy or or potentially crossed
- 30:03Speaker 3: the line in terms of what is allowed when you're
- 30:06Speaker 3: when you're watching, golf WHERE i probably would be in
- 30:09Speaker 3: total agreement with you and SAYING i have no issue with,
- 30:12Speaker 3: It like to your, point it didn't seem like anyone
- 30:16Speaker 3: was yelling In. Swings, NOW i also do think that
- 30:18Speaker 3: like what we heard on the broadcast were there were
- 30:23Speaker 3: probably worse things being said and worse timed things than
- 30:26Speaker 3: what we could very clearly. Hear SO i do think
- 30:29Speaker 3: it's important to keep that in. Mind AND i Think
- 30:31Speaker 3: scotty or maybe it Was Ted scott Actually scotty's caddy
- 30:34Speaker 3: who made reference to that that, like, yeah it was
- 30:37Speaker 3: worse than just you, know people yelling after he made
- 30:41Speaker 3: contact or kind of you, know cheering when he missed a,
- 30:44Speaker 3: putter things of that. Nature SO i think there was
- 30:46Speaker 3: a little bit more than just. That if it was just,
- 30:48Speaker 3: that if it was just you, know get in the
- 30:50Speaker 3: bunker after he makes contact or cheering when you missed a.
- 30:53Speaker 3: Putt THEN i agree that that's that's not crossing any,
- 30:56Speaker 3: lines even if it doesn't sit right with some golf.
- 30:59Speaker 1: Fans, yeah all good. THERE i think that time puts
- 31:01Speaker 1: a nod on, it like ties it up for what
- 31:03Speaker 1: we were talking, about because what you just said there
- 31:05Speaker 1: is the. Key obviously there was other stuff said that
- 31:07Speaker 1: we don't, know but also those thereiou is people that
- 31:09Speaker 1: got kicked, out so that was another factor as. Well
- 31:11Speaker 1: but LIKE i don't even like when you Know rory's
- 31:13Speaker 1: getting people kicked out for saying get in the, Bunker
- 31:15Speaker 1: LIKE i like it, Actually and it was just a
- 31:17Speaker 1: couple of weeks, ago by the, way wasn't. It Ryan
- 31:18Speaker 1: girard was, like it's not in the bunk or dog
- 31:20Speaker 1: the guy that, like that's, amazing we need. That that
- 31:23Speaker 1: is not even smack. Talk that is so. Minimum and
- 31:25Speaker 1: and that's the thing WHEN i talked about, it like
- 31:27Speaker 1: the biggest story in golf is Like Scottie scheffler, said,
- 31:30Speaker 1: golly G, todd we Can't Ted, ted we can't get
- 31:34Speaker 1: the wind. Wrong, Okay like that is not a storyline that's.
- 31:37Speaker 1: Ridiculous that's what makes it. Horrible sometimes it's, like, oh
- 31:40Speaker 1: BUT i just want to watch the majestic good shots
- 31:43Speaker 1: and the way the course flows and all. That, like,
- 31:45Speaker 1: man get some. Emotion Like jordan said in the, chat
- 31:48Speaker 1: we got to get some of that emotion into. It
- 31:52Speaker 1: rory's definitely been a softiet, Times like you get the
- 31:54Speaker 1: same thing. Backwards rory can't go take a Golf he
- 31:56Speaker 1: can do whatever he, wants like walking up to a
- 31:58Speaker 1: fan taking their phone and snapping it or throwing it
- 32:01Speaker 1: on the ground and smashing it or. SOMETHING i don't
- 32:02Speaker 1: know if that's should. Be it should go both. Ways
- 32:04Speaker 1: you can't do that. Either but, YEAH i think it's
- 32:06Speaker 1: like just being, respectful being able to, say like get
- 32:09Speaker 1: in the bunker after the, shot to me is totally
- 32:11Speaker 1: fine because, hey like don't say that you're rude to a.
- 32:13Speaker 1: Golfer like these are, golfers, man they're out playing in
- 32:16Speaker 1: front of thousands of, people hundreds of thousands in some,
- 32:19Speaker 1: cases like the waste management like you, Said, SO i don't.
- 32:21Speaker 1: KNOW i think it's just there's gotta be more of.
- 32:23Speaker 1: Something it's hard to, go you, know you, know pick
- 32:26Speaker 1: pinpoint what it. Is but you, KNOW i like having the.
- 32:29Speaker 1: VILLAINS i like having the ones that we all cheer,
- 32:31Speaker 1: for AND i like having, that you, know you, know
- 32:34Speaker 1: The americans versus The euros for The Ryder. Cup it
- 32:37Speaker 1: builds towards the hype when we do get to The Ryder.
- 32:39Speaker 1: Cup we just can't have the. Disrespect you can't have
- 32:42Speaker 1: the personal disrespectful outside of the obvious stuff like talking in,
- 32:47Speaker 1: backswings things that you can't have that type of.
- 32:48Speaker 3: Stuff so for, sure, YEAH i want to say one
- 32:51Speaker 3: more thing here and then and then we can get into,
- 32:53Speaker 3: uh you, know obviously the travelers and and WHAT i
- 32:55Speaker 3: think is a really kind of fun topic to discuss
- 32:59Speaker 3: and and what should be a really kind of helpful
- 33:01Speaker 3: one BECAUSE i think this is this is a topic
- 33:03Speaker 3: where like it's not just about helping, others BUT i
- 33:06Speaker 3: think you AND i are going to really benefit from
- 33:07Speaker 3: having the conversation. Ourselves so last THING i want to
- 33:11Speaker 3: say IS i really do agree with you, that like
- 33:15Speaker 3: it would be great to have that extra intensity and personality.
- 33:18Speaker 3: Shown BUT i will, say like there's a very big
- 33:21Speaker 3: difference between golfers and other athletes in this regard because,
- 33:25Speaker 3: like as someone who played, soccer, basketball baseball growing. Up,
- 33:28Speaker 3: Obviously i've played golf at at a decent, level and you,
- 33:31Speaker 3: KNOW i played golf and basketball for my, college SO i,
- 33:35Speaker 3: KNOW i know what all the different sports are. Like
- 33:38Speaker 3: when you're in any sport other than golf and you're
- 33:40Speaker 3: in the heat of the, moment you want to lean
- 33:43Speaker 3: into the emotion of the of the situation and the
- 33:45Speaker 3: adrenaline and kind of let that feed. You in, golf
- 33:48Speaker 3: it's kind of a constant battle to stay as calm
- 33:51Speaker 3: as you can possibly be amidst everything and like the
- 33:54Speaker 3: tension around. You and so when people say, like, oh
- 33:59Speaker 3: why can't golfers deal with, this when other athletes, do
- 34:01Speaker 3: like they're in a very different challenge where you, know
- 34:06Speaker 3: someone on the like look At Jalen brunson on the
- 34:08Speaker 3: road Or Trey young In Madison Square, garden like they
- 34:11Speaker 3: are feeding off that negative energy in a really cool,
- 34:13Speaker 3: way in a way that we as fans love to
- 34:15Speaker 3: watch and. See and so, yeah we like as fans of,
- 34:19Speaker 3: golf we would also love to see, that and in
- 34:21Speaker 3: The Ryder cup we do get to see, that. Right
- 34:22Speaker 3: we Saw Patrick reid play the villain role in a
- 34:25Speaker 3: just a phenomenal. Way we Saw rory do that multiple
- 34:28Speaker 3: times now ON us. Soil that's really. Fun but in
- 34:32Speaker 3: a TYPICAL pga torvent or even a major, championship like
- 34:36Speaker 3: those guys are on their, own they don't have teammates
- 34:39Speaker 3: to kind of feed into that energy.
- 34:41Speaker 2: With they're on their own and they're.
- 34:43Speaker 3: They're fighting a constant battle to stay as calm as
- 34:46Speaker 3: they can possibly, be and so it's just it makes
- 34:50Speaker 3: sense for them to kind of push back against that
- 34:53Speaker 3: type of fan interaction in a way that kind of
- 34:56Speaker 3: other athletes and other sports.
- 34:57Speaker 1: Don't, yeah that's what they would. Like but also so
- 35:00Speaker 1: you do create you you make your own. BED i,
- 35:01Speaker 1: mean we've been taught this since we were. Kids like
- 35:03Speaker 1: you you make your bed you, Line AND i think
- 35:05Speaker 1: that's WHY i Thought wyndham's response was. Fair he's, like,
- 35:07Speaker 1: LOOK i know you guys hate. ME i love. You
- 35:09Speaker 1: i'm trying to win this these fans. Back but at
- 35:10Speaker 1: the end of the, day you did some shit windom
- 35:13Speaker 1: in the past that people aren't very happy with that
- 35:15Speaker 1: make them dislike. You so you brought that. On, well
- 35:18Speaker 1: you would like to stay calm. Again can't have the,
- 35:19Speaker 1: disrespect can't have it during the. Swing can't have it,
- 35:22Speaker 1: that but you do create your own kingdom of sort
- 35:24Speaker 1: of what you live, within and it's obviously that's where
- 35:27Speaker 1: the back and forth battle. Is BUT i think it's
- 35:29Speaker 1: a good. Topic one topic we wanted to talk about,
- 35:31Speaker 1: today quick is one that comes up a. Lot AND
- 35:34Speaker 1: i know you brought it, up And i'm gonna let
- 35:36Speaker 1: you go through. It but you, know people love playing their, guys,
- 35:40Speaker 1: Right AND i was saying this About windom even like
- 35:42Speaker 1: imagine someone who Played windom forever and then this last
- 35:45Speaker 1: month and a half sort of jumped off the, wagon
- 35:47Speaker 1: The windom, wagon if you, will and stopped playing, him
- 35:49Speaker 1: and now, like, geez this guy's back and he's winning
- 35:51Speaker 1: all the. Time he's won, twice he's done, well et,
- 35:54Speaker 1: cetera et. Cetera so do you have a thought process
- 35:56Speaker 1: around that and just sort of break the topic down
- 35:58Speaker 1: from your perspective and then we'll go into that and
- 36:00Speaker 1: take it right Into travelers from.
- 36:01Speaker 2: There, YEAH i, MEAN i think.
- 36:04Speaker 3: So like one of the reasons WHY i think this
- 36:05Speaker 3: is a really good discussion is because it applies not
- 36:07Speaker 3: just TO pga, dfs but every SINGLE dfs sport and
- 36:11Speaker 3: essentially the question is, like how do you know when
- 36:14Speaker 3: to give up on your? Guys how do you know
- 36:15Speaker 3: when to stop playing the guys you really like? Playing
- 36:18Speaker 3: and what does that decision look? Like and the reason
- 36:21Speaker 3: WHY i wanted to talk about it today is BECAUSE
- 36:23Speaker 3: i feel, like over the last couple of, weeks like
- 36:26Speaker 3: we've had a number of instances where we've had like
- 36:30Speaker 3: extreme outcomes in both, Directions and so you already made
- 36:33Speaker 3: the point With, wyndham like he's maybe the ultimate example
- 36:35Speaker 3: of you, Know i've been on him since the start
- 36:38Speaker 3: of this. Year he was one of my highest owned
- 36:40Speaker 3: guys In Best. BALL i played him AT Tbc Craig
- 36:43Speaker 3: ranch and so you, KNOW i got the full kind
- 36:47Speaker 3: of benefit of being patient with him and continuing to
- 36:51Speaker 3: go to him and go to him and lean into
- 36:52Speaker 3: his scoring and the, upside and eventually it paid. Off
- 36:56Speaker 3: but then there are also other players where that's not the.
- 36:59Speaker 3: Case going To Hideki matsuyama over and over of late
- 37:02Speaker 3: has not worked. Out and now we have a seventy
- 37:05Speaker 3: three hundred Dollars, hideki who doesn't look like he's gonna be.
- 37:07Speaker 3: Popular so we're faced with this kind of decision again this,
- 37:10Speaker 3: week and you, know last, week like two of my
- 37:13Speaker 3: guys WHO i love playing and did not, Play Keith
- 37:16Speaker 3: Mitchell sahathigala ended up two of the best values in
- 37:20Speaker 3: a range where like that could have unlocked anything that
- 37:23Speaker 3: you wanted to do at the. Top and so we've
- 37:25Speaker 3: just had like these really kind of extreme outcomes where another,
- 37:30Speaker 3: example like going back To speeth hurt. Me i've gone
- 37:33Speaker 3: to him a, bunch and so it's basically like a
- 37:36Speaker 3: question for both of us THAT i think we can
- 37:39Speaker 3: answer and people can chime in the chat as, Well but,
- 37:41Speaker 3: like how do you know when to give up on a?
- 37:44Speaker 3: Guy BECAUSE i think this is this is probably the
- 37:46Speaker 3: best way to phrase, It like you've been playing him
- 37:51Speaker 3: for a. Reason as long as those reasons haven't, changed
- 37:56Speaker 3: you probably should keep playing.
- 37:58Speaker 2: Him like the logical thing to.
- 37:59Speaker 3: Do the smartest thing to do is probably to be
- 38:03Speaker 3: really stubborn and continue playing him unless projection has suddenly,
- 38:07Speaker 3: changed like he's been so bad that now he's gone
- 38:09Speaker 3: from someone who projects well to someone who projects. Poorly
- 38:11Speaker 3: obviously that changes. Things but if he's still projecting well
- 38:15Speaker 3: and you still like him for all the same, reasons
- 38:17Speaker 3: the logical thing to do is to keep playing the,
- 38:19Speaker 3: guy even though that can feel really. Wrong AND i
- 38:23Speaker 3: think you AND i are also in unique positions as
- 38:25Speaker 3: content creators and as, analysts where, LIKE i don't want
- 38:28Speaker 3: people to think That i'm an. Idiot and IF i
- 38:30Speaker 3: tell them to Play hideki again this week and he sucks,
- 38:33Speaker 3: again people are going to think That i'm an. Idiot
- 38:35Speaker 3: And i'm just too stubborn to let go of, this you,
- 38:38Speaker 3: know love For Hideki, matsioma AND i need to get over.
- 38:40Speaker 3: It and so there's like, this there's like this added
- 38:43Speaker 3: element of DO i continue to stay true to my
- 38:47Speaker 3: to you, know to wanting to provide the best analysis
- 38:49Speaker 3: THAT i, can or DO i kind of, protect you,
- 38:52Speaker 3: know my perception a little bit and it's not the
- 38:54Speaker 3: easiest thing to. Balance so very kind of interested to
- 38:57Speaker 3: hear your thoughts on this whole, conversation BECAUSE i would
- 39:00Speaker 3: love to have a better framework so that it doesn't
- 39:03Speaker 3: feel Like i'm making just one off decisions about each.
- 39:06Speaker 2: Guy WHERE i. AM i know That i'm gonna.
- 39:09Speaker 3: Make mistakes with that, framework AND i would like to
- 39:12Speaker 3: have a better way to, approach just to like have
- 39:15Speaker 3: things THAT i can look to and point to to, say,
- 39:17Speaker 3: yes this makes this guy the type THAT i want
- 39:20Speaker 3: to go back to. First this is the type of
- 39:22Speaker 3: guy THAT i should let go and and wait to
- 39:24Speaker 3: see some positive results BEFORE i go back to him.
- 39:26Speaker 1: Again, yeah you, know shout up to my. Guy. Whop
- 39:28Speaker 1: we've talked about this a ton in the past in
- 39:30Speaker 1: ALL dfs, sports about like playing your, guys and he
- 39:32Speaker 1: always says, like if you've been playing, them stick with,
- 39:35Speaker 1: them and if you you, know if you're sort of
- 39:37Speaker 1: never been playing, them you just got to ride that
- 39:38Speaker 1: wave of the opposite side because then you at least
- 39:40Speaker 1: have something that you feel more comfortable with to your.
- 39:43Speaker 1: Side obviously so much on the data and the analytics
- 39:45Speaker 1: and the back. End like, you you also have a
- 39:47Speaker 1: better way of seeing that to, Say, Hey i'm going
- 39:50Speaker 1: to stick With hideki Because i've been On hideki for
- 39:53Speaker 1: this reason AND i haven't actually seen this. Happen What
- 39:57Speaker 1: i've seen, HAPPEN i MEAN i think it was even
- 39:58Speaker 1: last week when you brought Up. Aideki you're, like the
- 40:00Speaker 1: other courses that he has played haven't really suited as
- 40:04Speaker 1: much as WHAT i would expect to see. Here and
- 40:06Speaker 1: then you get a TOUGH Us open where it didn't
- 40:08Speaker 1: necessarily fully play out or, whatever like all these. FACTORS
- 40:10Speaker 1: i get, that BUT i would not move off just
- 40:13Speaker 1: because of. That AND i also would say to your
- 40:14Speaker 1: point from the content creator side, one we get a
- 40:17Speaker 1: ton of stuff, wrong but that we also don't focus
- 40:19Speaker 1: to you AND i a ton on picks and. Plays
- 40:21Speaker 1: so it's, like there's part of that is the process.
- 40:22Speaker 1: Piece that's why this discussion matters more than the actual
- 40:25Speaker 1: player Of. Padeki we're just using him as the example.
- 40:28Speaker 1: Piece but the second one of it would be for
- 40:30Speaker 1: just as bad as you could look for people, saying
- 40:34Speaker 1: first of, all nobody cares forget just the work harder,
- 40:36Speaker 1: part but nobody actually. Cares it's like it's just part
- 40:38Speaker 1: of those. Things it'll fly, by but just noting it
- 40:40Speaker 1: for the part that you could get him wrong again
- 40:43Speaker 1: and they're, like, oh what an idiot he keeps playing
- 40:45Speaker 1: The sideki guy he. Does he's not, sharp he doesn't know.
- 40:47Speaker 1: Whatever you would be making a, case you'd be rating
- 40:50Speaker 1: a full. Blurb you'd have reasoning that people would resonate
- 40:52Speaker 1: and agree with going in and then the result just
- 40:55Speaker 1: doesn't play. Out But i'll tell you, what it can
- 40:57Speaker 1: be just as. Bad on the other. Side you finally
- 41:00Speaker 1: jump off, him and then he wins and you Weren't
- 41:03Speaker 1: you weren't, wrong you were just early. Right you hear
- 41:06Speaker 1: that saying like never. Wrong that's almost worse to. Me it's,
- 41:10Speaker 1: like how the hell did you jump off your? Guy
- 41:12Speaker 1: you really had no good reason to jump off, him
- 41:15Speaker 1: and you just. Did and now you almost because people
- 41:18Speaker 1: take your word on this guy and feel like it's
- 41:20Speaker 1: one of your guys or your. Dudes they're, like, damn
- 41:24Speaker 1: you told me it was a bad week to move off,
- 41:25Speaker 1: from and SO i went with. YOU i trusted. Him
- 41:28Speaker 1: he's your, guy and it's, like you didn't play your.
- 41:30Speaker 1: Guy SO i think that's. Important hopefully that makes sense to,
- 41:33Speaker 1: people BUT i do think that's important on why you
- 41:35Speaker 1: should be Still, again if you have a, process it's
- 41:38Speaker 1: always better for. YOU i think it's very data, driven
- 41:41Speaker 1: analytical to Say i'm not moving OFF. Decki it's not
- 41:44Speaker 1: just cause he's seventy three hundred and that's an insane
- 41:46Speaker 1: price FOR decki, here But i'm excited he's still my.
- 41:49Speaker 1: Guy he still checks out for. ME i actually went
- 41:52Speaker 1: back and, Looked i'm just ad libbing down AND i
- 41:54Speaker 1: went back and looked at HIS us open. Stuff here's
- 41:56Speaker 1: how it actually shook, out AND i feel comfortable going
- 41:59Speaker 1: back to him. Here AND i liked. That this isn't
- 42:01Speaker 1: you know us much. LESS i, know it's a, signature,
- 42:04Speaker 1: remember but it's a you, know not a strong of
- 42:06Speaker 1: a field or a herd of a course as what
- 42:07Speaker 1: we saw last. WEEK i think there is an opportunity
- 42:09Speaker 1: for him to break through. Here and even bonus cherry on,
- 42:12Speaker 1: top nobody wants him this week so or very little
- 42:14Speaker 1: do SO i actually feel better about still going back.
- 42:17Speaker 1: There and here's WHAT i do see with him for this,
- 42:19Speaker 1: course for this, week for this, event et, cetera et.
- 42:21Speaker 1: Cetera so just add libbed a bunch of, it but
- 42:23Speaker 1: just to note that's HOW i would think about, that
- 42:25Speaker 1: and you would be validating, it not just saying got
- 42:27Speaker 1: to keep playing my, guy like you wouldn't be saying.
- 42:30Speaker 3: That, YEAH i really like the point that you made
- 42:32Speaker 3: about fit where and this part of, it like it
- 42:36Speaker 3: probably is a little BIT pga, specifical though it does
- 42:39Speaker 3: translate TO nfl as. Well, right like you if you
- 42:41Speaker 3: were playing a wide receiver multiple weeks in a row
- 42:44Speaker 3: because you really like, him but then he hasn't paid
- 42:46Speaker 3: off and then you, realize, well, okay but, wait he's
- 42:48Speaker 3: been much better against man coverage and he just played
- 42:50Speaker 3: two zone heavy.
- 42:51Speaker 2: Teams now he plays a man, team this is the
- 42:52Speaker 2: time to go back to.
- 42:53Speaker 3: Him SO i think like that does apply to other,
- 42:56Speaker 3: sports but specific To, Hideki like this is.
- 42:58Speaker 2: A really good.
- 42:58Speaker 3: Example WHEN i brought this up for her, deck he
- 43:00Speaker 3: was going into THE Pga championship because he had just
- 43:03Speaker 3: played very well In texas and then The masters and
- 43:07Speaker 3: then struggled him back to back weeks at The cadillac
- 43:09Speaker 3: and the truest two of the most you know off
- 43:13Speaker 3: the t predictive courses on. Tour goes to THE Pga,
- 43:16Speaker 3: championship does, well he. Was he was even better than
- 43:20Speaker 3: HIS t twenty six finish. There he just ran into
- 43:23Speaker 3: a really tough stretch after starting well On. Sunday then
- 43:26Speaker 3: goes to The schwab another course that fits him pretty,
- 43:29Speaker 3: well finishes. Thirteenth so it's, Like, okay that paid, off,
- 43:32Speaker 3: Right like the analysis on the fact that he didn't
- 43:35Speaker 3: fit the previous golf courses really came. True that made,
- 43:39Speaker 3: him you, know and then the memorial you have off
- 43:42Speaker 3: accuracy off the te being super, predictive he's not very
- 43:46Speaker 3: accurate off the, tea doesn't do as well, there and
- 43:49Speaker 3: then struggled at THE Us. Open THE Us, OPEN i do,
- 43:51Speaker 3: think was a course that did fit him pretty well
- 43:54Speaker 3: and he just didn't play as. Well so now the
- 43:57Speaker 3: question is given that there was really only one event
- 44:01Speaker 3: of late where he didn't play well when he did
- 44:05Speaker 3: fit the golf, course and and like everything about WHY
- 44:08Speaker 3: i like him came.
- 44:08Speaker 2: True AND i.
- 44:09Speaker 3: Also think that like part of it is if we
- 44:12Speaker 3: played him at THE Pga championship and if we played
- 44:14Speaker 3: him at The Charles, schwab yes we would have liked
- 44:16Speaker 3: for better results THAN t twenty six AND t thirteen,
- 44:19Speaker 3: there but that's one of those cases where like we
- 44:21Speaker 3: should also remember that those are actually very good. Outcomes
- 44:25Speaker 3: in both of those, instances he outperformed his median, expectation
- 44:30Speaker 3: so we should view them as positive even though they
- 44:34Speaker 3: weren't quite as good as we would have liked them to.
- 44:36Speaker 3: Be SO i think there's that kind of perception changing.
- 44:39Speaker 3: THINGS i think another really good example of this Is Corey,
- 44:41Speaker 3: connors where like one of the reasons WHY i played
- 44:46Speaker 3: him at The memorial and at THE Rbc Canadian, open
- 44:50Speaker 3: why because he had really good splits in wind and
- 44:53Speaker 3: on difficult.
- 44:53Speaker 2: Courses we knew we were going to have both of
- 44:55Speaker 2: those of THE Us.
- 44:56Speaker 3: Open but NOW i was, saying, okay but the reason
- 44:59Speaker 3: WHY i would use him here at THE Us open
- 45:01Speaker 3: is because he's really good in win and on difficult.
- 45:04Speaker 3: Courses but that reasoning did not help him play any
- 45:08Speaker 3: better the previous two, weeks SO i ended up off
- 45:10Speaker 3: of him in my two. Lineups he plays really well
- 45:13Speaker 3: or at least pretty, well finished like twenty fifth or
- 45:16Speaker 3: something like. That so that kind of again like had you,
- 45:19Speaker 3: know both possible outcomes there where there were guys we
- 45:22Speaker 3: should have stayed with that we. Didn't there were guys
- 45:25Speaker 3: that we didn't stay with that we should. Have it's
- 45:27Speaker 3: a very difficult. Thing we're never going to get every instance,
- 45:30Speaker 3: correct AND i think that that is as like the
- 45:33Speaker 3: last kind of key point THAT i want to make
- 45:35Speaker 3: here is on these, guys we can't possibly be right
- 45:40Speaker 3: and wrong all the, time just like we can't be
- 45:43Speaker 3: right and wrong with any, golfer and sometimes we can be.
- 45:47Speaker 3: Right we can make the correct, decision the decision that
- 45:49Speaker 3: puts us in the best position to win and have
- 45:52Speaker 3: the outcome work against us because the guy still plays
- 45:55Speaker 3: well if we faded him or he plays poorly when
- 45:57Speaker 3: we played. Him we can't control the. Outcome all we
- 45:59Speaker 3: can do is can the. Process BUT i do think
- 46:01Speaker 3: this is one of the instances OF dfs where it's
- 46:03Speaker 3: the hardest to know whether or not we made the right.
- 46:06Speaker 3: Decision that's kind of WHY i wanted to talk it.
- 46:08Speaker 1: Through, YEAH i love, that. MAN i think it's a you,
- 46:10Speaker 1: know a good call At Corey connors was an example last,
- 46:12Speaker 1: week you know Ax Shay thigala from The clouds up, There,
- 46:15Speaker 1: like just to betting on talent sometimes is the key as.
- 46:17Speaker 1: Well and then we do have to factor in WITH
- 46:19Speaker 1: dfs the pricing and that it's not always like oh
- 46:21Speaker 1: like he'll never. Win we're not betting like what you
- 46:24Speaker 1: have to put six people in a salary constraint. Lineup
- 46:26Speaker 1: so it's like when people get that so, confused it's
- 46:29Speaker 1: like the twenty fifth was just? Fine was? It you?
- 46:31Speaker 3: Know?
- 46:31Speaker 1: Amazing DID i See Corey connors at the top? Anywhere not?
- 46:33Speaker 1: Really like my point, being it's but at sixty five hundred,
- 46:35Speaker 1: dollars it could have been even, better it could have been,
- 46:37Speaker 1: worse but it was. Fine and it worked out and
- 46:40Speaker 1: playing talents with that More kawa last, week another one Justin,
- 46:43Speaker 1: rose another one like some of these guys that just you,
- 46:45Speaker 1: know we were betting on what the event was and
- 46:48Speaker 1: what type of tournament it was going to be and
- 46:50Speaker 1: all that. Stuff SO i think it's important to remember
- 46:52Speaker 1: there was also guys that came In Bud cawley last.
- 46:56Speaker 1: Week we'll talk about for this week coming in off a. Win,
- 46:58Speaker 1: oh let's keep riding the way fifty, six like not
- 47:01Speaker 1: anywhere to be, Found Bobby mack coming it off at
- 47:04Speaker 1: fifteenth last week thirty. Nine it's, like you, See Victor
- 47:08Speaker 1: hoblin showed us a sign of life baby third the week,
- 47:11Speaker 1: before just so we needed to. See, yeah Misscut SO
- 47:14Speaker 1: i mean a lot of different factors and things will
- 47:16Speaker 1: play into. It let's move on to the, Travelers zoe.
- 47:18Speaker 2: Talk one last.
- 47:19Speaker 3: THING i do want to kind of wrap this into
- 47:21Speaker 3: a bow a little bit where we BECAUSE i think
- 47:24Speaker 3: we talked a lot about, it but we didn't actually
- 47:27Speaker 3: offer a specific. Answer we just talked about. Why it's
- 47:29Speaker 3: a difficult thing to. Answer so my best attempt to
- 47:32Speaker 3: answer of, like what is the best way to handle?
- 47:35Speaker 3: This what is the best way to come to an,
- 47:37Speaker 3: ANSWER i think it's figure out how closely the reasoning
- 47:41Speaker 3: for using him or.
- 47:43Speaker 2: How well it still. Applies so like With, connors for, example.
- 47:47Speaker 3: The reason to use him the previous two weeks had
- 47:50Speaker 3: been that he does really well in wind and difficult.
- 47:53Speaker 3: Conditions you can very easily make the argument, that, okay
- 47:56Speaker 3: well that doesn't apply as well, anymore BECAUSE i just
- 47:59Speaker 3: watched do poorly in back to back weeks in those
- 48:02Speaker 3: conditions with The. Decie you, know IF i liked him
- 48:06Speaker 3: because he was coming off of you, know courses where
- 48:12Speaker 3: he didn't really. Fit now he fits. Again, well this
- 48:15Speaker 3: is a week WHERE i do think he fits it
- 48:17Speaker 3: kind of. WELL i wish he was more, accurate of,
- 48:19Speaker 3: course so that aspect of it makes him a bit
- 48:23Speaker 3: of a poor. Fit but we can talk more about.
- 48:25Speaker 3: HITDECULATOR i think a better example would be Like Justin.
- 48:28Speaker 3: Rose one of the best reasons to Use Justin rose
- 48:30Speaker 3: week in week out because he's extremely, volatile so he
- 48:33Speaker 3: always has a better ceiling than what his projection kind
- 48:37Speaker 3: of suggests for most.
- 48:39Speaker 2: Players so If.
- 48:40Speaker 3: Rose goes out and has a really bad, week that
- 48:43Speaker 3: doesn't affect the.
- 48:44Speaker 2: Thesis the thesis is that.
- 48:45Speaker 3: He's really volatile and he's going to have really bad,
- 48:47Speaker 3: weeks but he's going to make up for that with fantastic.
- 48:50Speaker 3: Weeks so if he has one bad week like the next,
- 48:52Speaker 3: week it still very much applies to him and you
- 48:55Speaker 3: should go back to. Him and SO i think that's
- 48:56Speaker 3: my best way of answering is just how well does
- 48:59Speaker 3: your initial reasoning for using him still. Applying if it,
- 49:02Speaker 3: does then you just keep using him no matter what
- 49:04Speaker 3: the recent results have, been like.
- 49:07Speaker 1: Perfect do you have thoughts on the weather or course
- 49:10Speaker 1: fit for this? Week you mentioned a little when you
- 49:11Speaker 1: were talking About hideki on course, fit but the, weather to,
- 49:15Speaker 1: ME i just pulled it up here. Quickly not going
- 49:16Speaker 1: to bring everything up on the screen this, week but
- 49:18Speaker 1: just to note, It like the tempts look pretty straight
- 49:20Speaker 1: across the. Board the wind is, like you, know picks
- 49:24Speaker 1: up a little, bit but not anything crazy like eight
- 49:26Speaker 1: to ten miles per hour with fifteen mile per hour
- 49:28Speaker 1: gus you, Know, thursday and then On friday it shows
- 49:32Speaker 1: like a little bit more gusts in the, morning but
- 49:34Speaker 1: it's like seventeen to night and it's very quick and
- 49:36Speaker 1: it's out of the way and looks pretty. Solid across the.
- 49:39Speaker 1: Board there don't see a ton. Else did you see
- 49:41Speaker 1: anything different in the weather anything you wanted to discuss?
- 49:44Speaker 3: There, no it doesn't seem like a big variable at
- 49:47Speaker 3: all this. Week and that's kind of the usual that
- 49:51Speaker 3: we get at this. Course we did have one like
- 49:53Speaker 3: super windy a round last. YEAR i think the course
- 49:56Speaker 3: was a little bit, firmer IF i recall, correctly we
- 49:59Speaker 3: should have pretty soft. CONDITIONS i do think that that's
- 50:02Speaker 3: like my biggest takeaway is we're going from a very
- 50:05Speaker 3: difficult windy event to what should be a kind of
- 50:10Speaker 3: a little bit of a birdie fest this, Week and
- 50:12Speaker 3: SO i will probably care less THAN i usually do
- 50:16Speaker 3: about you, know extremely recent form and give players a
- 50:20Speaker 3: pass if they looked awful last, week because you could
- 50:23Speaker 3: shoot a really really really bad score last week by
- 50:26Speaker 3: being just a little bit off your. Game because if
- 50:28Speaker 3: you were just a little bit off your, game you
- 50:30Speaker 3: were consistently penalized pretty strongly for. That whereas now this,
- 50:34Speaker 3: week if you're a little bit off your, game you
- 50:36Speaker 3: can still put together a minus, three minus four, round
- 50:38Speaker 3: feel pretty good about, it come back the next, day be,
- 50:40Speaker 3: sharper and you, know really go really. Low SO i
- 50:44Speaker 3: think that's my biggest takeaway from a course. Perspective this
- 50:48Speaker 3: is actually a bit of an annoying course in the
- 50:49Speaker 3: sense that, distance, approach around the, green and putting all
- 50:53Speaker 3: have less predictive signal than. Usual driving accuracy has more
- 50:57Speaker 3: predictive a signal than. Usual that does come with the caveat,
- 51:00Speaker 3: though since this became signature event in the last two,
- 51:03Speaker 3: years we have seen approach play and around the green
- 51:06Speaker 3: play really spike in their predictive, value especially relative to
- 51:11Speaker 3: what it had been in the past, here but also
- 51:13Speaker 3: relative to a typical golf. Course and So i'm a
- 51:16Speaker 3: little bit unsure of HOW i want to kind of
- 51:17Speaker 3: handle that because on the one, hand like that's, recent
- 51:21Speaker 3: it's different signal because you have totally different, fields so
- 51:25Speaker 3: the field composition is. Different that's going to change what
- 51:28Speaker 3: really becomes. Predictive but it's a small. Sample it's seventy
- 51:32Speaker 3: players in each, Season like that's the equivalent of one
- 51:36Speaker 3: year prior to the prior to it becoming a signature.
- 51:39Speaker 3: Event AND i wouldn't put too much stock into one.
- 51:41Speaker 3: Year so SHOULD i put a ton of stock into
- 51:45Speaker 3: two years from these smaller.
- 51:47Speaker 2: FIELDS i don't totally.
- 51:48Speaker 3: KNOW i think the best way to handle it is
- 51:50Speaker 3: look for guys who are, accurate look for guys who
- 51:52Speaker 3: project well and who would benefit if approach playing around the.
- 51:55Speaker 2: Green play continue to be more predictive than. Usual, here
- 51:58Speaker 2: that's gonna.
- 51:58Speaker 1: Be interesting when we talk about, this Because i'm gonna
- 52:00Speaker 1: bring it up in a. Second we will move to
- 52:02Speaker 1: looking at the chalk build for this. Week but, funny
- 52:05Speaker 1: it ties like a lot of that stuff together of
- 52:07Speaker 1: what we talked about in the previous. Topic So See
- 52:10Speaker 1: wu was coming in blazing hot to last. Week he
- 52:14Speaker 1: was the you, know supervalue play on the board last,
- 52:16Speaker 1: week a lot of people Wanted Sea wu and he
- 52:19Speaker 1: misses the cut last year here he wd'd before that
- 52:22Speaker 1: thirty first before, that a bunch of, miscuts like where
- 52:25Speaker 1: Does Sea wu fall in on this? Chart Because i'm
- 52:28Speaker 1: gonna pull this up now so we have. It But
- 52:31Speaker 1: See wu is eighty nine hundred dollars this. WEEK i
- 52:34Speaker 1: don't know exactly because this is again we always talk about.
- 52:36Speaker 1: It this is our rough. Draft you'll have your ownership
- 52:39Speaker 1: over their rough. Draft but where do you Have See
- 52:40Speaker 1: wu falling in right? Now and then what sort of
- 52:43Speaker 1: type of chalk build are you looking? At. Here Obviously
- 52:45Speaker 1: scotty in the, field but at thirteen eight a little
- 52:49Speaker 1: bit of a difference because there's also no five k
- 52:52Speaker 1: range this.
- 52:52Speaker 2: Week, Yeah i'll give the field some credit.
- 52:54Speaker 3: HERE i think he's going to be, popular and he
- 52:57Speaker 3: deserves to be, popular and this is one of the
- 52:59Speaker 3: Spots like in the past he might have been really
- 53:02Speaker 3: overlooked because of his, history but people now recognize the fact,
- 53:06Speaker 3: that like look, see was a totally different player now
- 53:09Speaker 3: than he was three years.
- 53:10Speaker 2: Ago four years, ago five years.
- 53:11Speaker 3: Ago so why SHOULD i possibly care what he did
- 53:14Speaker 3: here in the past when he's a totally different player.
- 53:16Speaker 3: Now his strength is driving. Accuracy he is one of
- 53:20Speaker 3: the most accurate players in the world off the. Team
- 53:22Speaker 3: Only scotty rates out more accurate in our estimates off the,
- 53:27Speaker 3: Tee so very good fit for the golf course if,
- 53:30Speaker 3: approach playing around the green play both matter more than
- 53:32Speaker 3: they have here in the, past help benefit from. THAT
- 53:35Speaker 3: i think he's probably pretty good chalk in that. Regard
- 53:37Speaker 3: not a huge, ceiling but he doesn't really need a
- 53:42Speaker 3: ceiling at eighty eight hundred, dollars and especially because he's,
- 53:44Speaker 3: chalk you're not looking for him to be a Separator
- 53:46Speaker 3: you're just looking for him to kind of anchor the
- 53:48Speaker 3: lineup and preserve any advantage that your separators around him
- 53:51Speaker 3: do give.
- 53:52Speaker 1: You, Yeah i'm trying to see, too like some of
- 53:54Speaker 1: the other. Ownership but so let's say, HERE i Put
- 53:57Speaker 1: Brian harmon in Somebody my Man Timmy dubbs to, him he, says,
- 54:00Speaker 1: uh where does course history fit for you this? Year
- 54:03Speaker 1: Brian harmon obviously has an incredible track record at The travelers, eighth, nine, second, eighth,
- 54:10Speaker 1: fifth and me he's coming in off a thirty second
- 54:11Speaker 1: at THE Us. Open before that he had a miscut
- 54:13Speaker 1: in the twenty second. Place But, SABBY i mean very
- 54:16Speaker 1: fair price. Here you'd think that he's gonna get a
- 54:18Speaker 1: little bit of love at that. Price what's your thoughts
- 54:20Speaker 1: on course history and Then Brian harmon fitting into this
- 54:23Speaker 1: chalk build to.
- 54:24Speaker 3: Start, LOOK i just GAVE i just gave the industry
- 54:27Speaker 3: credit On Sea. Wu If Brian harmon has chalk this,
- 54:30Speaker 3: WEEK i will rescind that credit because he should not.
- 54:32Speaker 3: BE i, know the course history is really, good but
- 54:34Speaker 3: he does not project. Well he's not a great fit
- 54:36Speaker 3: for the course part of that. Too like we just
- 54:39Speaker 3: talked about With Sea, Wu why doesn't history matter for
- 54:42Speaker 3: a lot of players because who they are as players change.
- 54:45Speaker 3: Historically Brian harmon has been a very accurate player off the.
- 54:48Speaker 3: Tee lately he has not been he's At he's losing
- 54:52Speaker 3: about a tenth of a stroke around with his driving
- 54:54Speaker 3: accuracy right. Now his iron play hasn't been. Good his
- 55:00Speaker 3: around the green play and his putting have been, solid
- 55:02Speaker 3: and they're what's kind of keeping him. Relevant but that's
- 55:08Speaker 3: not a guy THAT i want to lean into at
- 55:09Speaker 3: ownership at seventy eight. Hundred it's not so much that
- 55:12Speaker 3: he's over priced at seventy eight. Hundred IT i think
- 55:15Speaker 3: it's more that there are a lot of guys underpriced
- 55:18Speaker 3: in the low sevens the upper sixes that are better
- 55:20Speaker 3: players and are going to be lower.
- 55:22Speaker 1: Owned, Yeah i'm trying to see like and maybe it's.
- 55:25Speaker 1: NOT i don't. KNOW i think people still Like, Fits
- 55:27Speaker 1: but if they're going like the route of like you
- 55:29Speaker 1: talked about, EARLIER i Guess speeth could be in the.
- 55:31Speaker 1: Mix i'll Throw Alex fits into this for a second
- 55:35Speaker 1: just to get a rough. Idea but like this is
- 55:37Speaker 1: gonna be a high scoring, Week like you're gonna be
- 55:39Speaker 1: able to put up scores out, there take course history
- 55:42Speaker 1: down because this is not, that but just going to
- 55:43Speaker 1: like the chalk build quick if they're not going To,
- 55:47Speaker 1: scottie is It fleetwood Or ludwig that you see people
- 55:51Speaker 1: landing on more or is it x? Again you know
- 55:54Speaker 1: something like, that BECAUSE i just did The ludwig version
- 55:56Speaker 1: and it's Like ludwig can't lay seewu harmon somewhere in
- 55:59Speaker 1: THE i me And Colia fitzpatrick can be anything that you.
- 56:03Speaker 1: Want but And i'm gonna, Answer i'm gonna bring that
- 56:05Speaker 1: question up For alex in a second. TOO i just
- 56:07Speaker 1: had a similar, thought but just noting, this let's stay
- 56:10Speaker 1: here for a. Second what are you seeing that would
- 56:12Speaker 1: be maybe different in your eyes? Here or is this?
- 56:14Speaker 1: Close and then it's just like pick your poison on
- 56:16Speaker 1: your two v two Of ludwig And fitzpatrick or. Something
- 56:20Speaker 1: is that kind of how you see it Or Colleas
- 56:22Speaker 1: gerard or whatever that might.
- 56:23Speaker 3: Be i'm higher on most of these guys from an ownership,
- 56:28Speaker 3: Perspective tommy fourteen, Percent xander, Eighteen ludwig, nineteen Cam young.
- 56:33Speaker 3: Fifteen SO i think it's gonna be like a pretty concentrated.
- 56:39Speaker 3: Range but the biggest difference THAT i have Is i've
- 56:42Speaker 3: Got Sam burns really separating as the chalkiest of this
- 56:46Speaker 3: kind of group at twenty one percent in single. Entries so,
- 56:50Speaker 3: AGAIN i think like the big takeaway here is that
- 56:53Speaker 3: there's just gonna be as we have seen kind of all.
- 56:56Speaker 3: Season there's gonna be a decent concentration around all these,
- 56:58Speaker 3: guys and it's gonna be hard to anyone here that
- 57:00Speaker 3: you can really consider a. SEPARATOR i Think fitzpatrick And
- 57:04Speaker 3: wyndham might be the most likely to really slip through the.
- 57:07Speaker 1: Cracks, yeah AND i think there's multiple versions of this.
- 57:10Speaker 1: Too let's say this Version i'm just making. IT i
- 57:12Speaker 1: mean it could be writing Over. Hideki but just like you,
- 57:15Speaker 1: said if it ends up being you, know two ninees
- 57:17Speaker 1: and eight and you'll can't lay in this version is not,
- 57:19Speaker 1: in it doesn't mean can't they won't be. Popular he will.
- 57:21Speaker 1: Be he's got a good course history here as, well
- 57:23Speaker 1: and people see, that but just noting. It What i'm
- 57:25Speaker 1: constantly seeing is three SEVEN k, guys, right is what you're.
- 57:31Speaker 1: Seeing it is three SEVEN k. Guys vers last week
- 57:33Speaker 1: we didn't have a very big SEVEN k. Range we
- 57:36Speaker 1: actually don't have a huge seven k range this. Week
- 57:39Speaker 1: it's just bigger than. Last but that's where most people
- 57:41Speaker 1: are comfortable going rather than The straka small These, Conners
- 57:46Speaker 1: fowlers of the world down, low they'll get, some but
- 57:48Speaker 1: they should be sub ten. PERCENT i think a lot more,
- 57:50Speaker 1: lineups especially talking about what the chalk build will be
- 57:54Speaker 1: or the optimal build will be somewhere in this. Vicinity
- 57:56Speaker 1: And i've had all them sort of land around five
- 57:58Speaker 1: point twenty just based off our early rough draft, Projection
- 58:01Speaker 1: so any other thoughts on, that AND i want to
- 58:03Speaker 1: bring up this one question for you as.
- 58:05Speaker 3: Well, yeah THEN i also think the upper six k
- 58:08Speaker 3: range is going to be peppered a little bit Where
- 58:10Speaker 3: i've Got, Fowler, Connor, Struka, Cole, Smalley, noorrin and then
- 58:15Speaker 3: you can Throw girard And collie in there as, well
- 58:17Speaker 3: like all pushing somewhere between ten and fifteen. Percent SO
- 58:21Speaker 3: i think like that's the range that's going to allow
- 58:23Speaker 3: people to do whatever they want at the. Top and
- 58:25Speaker 3: we talk a lot about how like ownership is. Connected
- 58:28Speaker 3: So i'm higher than you guys on those, guys which
- 58:33Speaker 3: also then allows me to be higher on the collection
- 58:37Speaker 3: of studs that we just walk through who you KNOW
- 58:39Speaker 3: i have at twenty to twenty five when you have
- 58:41Speaker 3: around fifteen. Percent Because i'm also expecting people to favor
- 58:44Speaker 3: that upper six k range, more which opens up the
- 58:47Speaker 3: salary to do.
- 58:48Speaker 1: That, yeah and that's The scotti, version which we'll bring.
- 58:50Speaker 1: Up so we'll do A scotti because you, know whether people.
- 58:52Speaker 1: GO i, mean one thing that's interesting is you know
- 58:54Speaker 1: kind of know where that. Lands but that's going to
- 58:56Speaker 1: force people into. That AND i know we're up there
- 58:59Speaker 1: on scott right, now probably a little bit more we'll
- 59:02Speaker 1: see than more than most OF i was gonna, say
- 59:04Speaker 1: but just noting it from the first look at all
- 59:06Speaker 1: those types of builds and then the thought process Around,
- 59:08Speaker 1: Fleetwood Xander ludwig Camiong Sam, burns you know all these,
- 59:12Speaker 1: GUYS i don't we might be high On scotty right.
- 59:14Speaker 1: Now even Though scotty's been, Popular it's like it kind
- 59:16Speaker 1: of pinpoints you to that one range down, there AND
- 59:20Speaker 1: i just don't know how many people will land heavily on.
- 59:22Speaker 1: That but this is getting like just played out in
- 59:25Speaker 1: the in the chat now. Heavily the people heard your
- 59:27Speaker 1: comments Saying Brian harmon not a good course fit you,
- 59:30Speaker 1: know with all due, respect and he's got basically top you,
- 59:33Speaker 1: know all these top. Tens you, know how do you
- 59:36Speaker 1: say someone's not a course fit when they have a
- 59:38Speaker 1: great course. History so that's, good good at good, question
- 59:40Speaker 1: but it also might be answered in what you just,
- 59:43Speaker 1: said course history and course fit are not always the same.
- 59:46Speaker 3: Thing well, yeah but also like look at his off
- 59:50Speaker 3: the tape progression if you, like you can go to
- 59:54Speaker 3: Data golf for. This when you look all the way
- 59:57Speaker 3: back to twenty, twelve this is a guy who he's
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: been very good off the, tea like his entire, career
- 1:00:04Speaker 3: so you, know he's he's short off the, tee and
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: yet he's consistently gaining strokes throughout his career off the
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: T he's gaining, strokes scanning, strokes scanning.
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: Strokes all of that he's gaining through.
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: Accuracy now you get to twenty twenty, five and you
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: get to twenty twenty, six and you see a very
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: steep decline in his driving accuracy and his strokes gained
- 1:00:25Speaker 3: off the, TEA i should, say which we then know
- 1:00:28Speaker 3: that's a decline in his driving. Accuracy so you get
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: to a course where part of the reason he has
- 1:00:35Speaker 3: done well is because in the past he has been
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: a good course. Fit if the only thing in the
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: past that has been predictive of success here has been driving,
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: accuracy and he's been historically one of the most accurate
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: guys off the, tee then we should expect that his
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: past looks pretty. Good now driving accuracy is no longer
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: a big advantage that he has over, people and so
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: he's no longer as good of a course. Fit that's
- 1:00:59Speaker 3: the biggest. Reason that's like the really straightforward. Reason but
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: the second part of it is it just became a
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: signature event two years. AGO i don't really care If
- 1:01:09Speaker 3: Brian harmon beat up on weak fields prior to that
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: with top. Tens now he has to play a lot stronger.
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: GUYS a lot of those top tens in the past
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: would have been like thirtieth place or thirty fifth place
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: in a signature. Event why WOULD i care that he's
- 1:01:24Speaker 3: giving me a thirtieth place finish at seventy eight hundred
- 1:01:27Speaker 3: dollars in a seventy some field. Event so, YEAH i
- 1:01:30Speaker 3: think both of those kind of contributing factors explain WHY i.
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: Don't think he's a good course fit at.
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: All AND i think he's going to be overhewned this,
- 1:01:38Speaker 3: week and the fact that there are so many people
- 1:01:40Speaker 3: like emotionally responding to that comment tells me That i'm
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: probably right about his ownership getting to ten to fifteen
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: percent based on his history.
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: Alone, YEAH i agree on, that AND.
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: I think there's just so many other. WAYS i love
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: the signature event. Factor that was a big one that
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: when it, first especially when they first came, out they're, like,
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: oh someone's been so good. Here it's, like you, know
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: they played against like Corn Ferry fields at the, time
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: and now they're playing against the best and again he's
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: shown up year after year after, year AND i get.
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: That so that's where people are arguing. This So i'm
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: not even against the. Crowd i'm just SAYING i get
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: why they're asking the. Question but there's other ways to
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: look at it. Too Like scott he played here miscut forty, seventh,
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: thirteenth and then the last three years, fourth, first and
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: Sixth Keigan. Bradley you people would said he's, oh he
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: missed the, cut he missed the, cut he finished, nineteen
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: how is he even good at this? Place then he,
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: wins then he finishes thirty, ninth then he wins. Again
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: it's like there's so many ways that people don't really
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: focus on. It, like what how do you Describe danny
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: McCarthy seventh and twelfth in two of the last three
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: years before that miscut withdraw misscut seventy, third forty, Seventh
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: which one is he he just got? Better what's he
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: even doing? Lately, well let me look At danny McCarthy sixty,
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: fifth miss, cut forty, eighth forty, four thirty, four, Sixtieth
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: so which is, like there's just that's the thing and
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: why people focus too much on that Stuff and it's
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: just in the, end like you, said the emotions get,
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: involved the bias gets. Involved we got to play the
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: game and not the picks in the. Plays the picks
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: in the play are a result of the. Process so
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: just got to about. That, yeah always on you on this, stuff,
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: man but you say this every week like we get.
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: It but, again it doesn't. Matter twelve to fifteen percent
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: on everybody doesn't mean. Shit it means eighty to eighty
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: five percent are not touching. Him the most over, hyped
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: overplayed thing in the ENTIRE PGA dfs universe is ownership
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: in a Vacuum that is why we're all, finished and
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: the inn a vacuum is the most important. Part i'm
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: not saying ownership is not. Important it's extremely. Important in
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: all OF dfs and SPECIFICALLY dfs. Golf we talk about it.
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: Weekly alex talks about a weekly AT. Ftn we rank
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: it in the system with ship a. Nation how important it,
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: is especially if you're using contest sims and all. That
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: it's the people that sit there and nitpick thirteen percent
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: versus eighteen or, oh you say he's gonna be, ELEVEN
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: i think he's gonna be. Fourteen you're. Lost you've already
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: lost the game before it. Started so, congrats thanks for,
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: playing not u sat specifically everyone who does that, though
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: thanks for coming. Out you're creating the edge for everybody
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: else that's playing it at a high. Level so that's.
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: Amazing it's To alex's, point it's that's what people get
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: hung up. On you're making a huge. Mistake it's why
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: it originally. Started it's not who you, play it's how
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: you play. Them there is six slots you need to fill.
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: Out we're not picking, winners we're not betting, golfers we're
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: not picking top. Twenties we're trying to build the BEST
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: dfs lineup to win the. Tournament so tambo tangent for you.
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: There but it's just it's always the same. Thing who cares?
- 1:04:22Speaker 3: WELL i think to that, Point like in regards To,
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: harmon it's it's not, oh he's ten to fifteen percent
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: that's higher THAN i. Like it's what does his ownership
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: look like relative to the players around, him and how
- 1:04:35Speaker 3: does his distribution of potential outcomes compare to the players around.
- 1:04:40Speaker 3: Him WHEN i look at guys around, HIM i find
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: a number of players that are going to be lower
- 1:04:45Speaker 3: owned THAT i think have a better distribution of outcomes
- 1:04:48Speaker 3: a much better chance of. Winning like one of the
- 1:04:51Speaker 3: things here is like you can his history here obviously is.
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: Good and if if you got one of the, third, six, eight, fifth, eighth,
- 1:05:00Speaker 3: ninth or eighth place finishes from him this, week you
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: would be quite. Happy but If harmon's in contention versus
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: If Justin rose is in, contention you're gonna Want Justin.
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: Rose rose is one of the best contention performance, Scores
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: harmon has one of the. Worst, Consequently harmon has a
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: very low win odds relative to most of the players around.
- 1:05:20Speaker 3: Him While rose has phenomenal. Odds so if you're telling me,
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: that Like i'm gonna Get rose And harmon at similar,
- 1:05:25Speaker 3: ownership there's no Chance i'm going With harmon instead Of.
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: Rose i'm like the similar.
- 1:05:30Speaker 3: Argument you, know you can go up a little bit
- 1:05:32Speaker 3: and get some better, players LIKE i THINK Jj spahn
- 1:05:36Speaker 3: is a both a better fit and he's someone THAT
- 1:05:38Speaker 3: i trust more to turn contention into a great outcome
- 1:05:44Speaker 3: or even a. Win so, yeah like, that that's my.
- 1:05:47Speaker 3: Point it's not that it's not, that, Oh harmon's gonna
- 1:05:51Speaker 3: be ten to fifteen percent and THEREFORE i can't use.
- 1:05:53Speaker 3: Him It's harmon's going to be an ownership that is,
- 1:05:57Speaker 3: Indicative like, essentially if he didn't have this course, history
- 1:06:02Speaker 3: he wouldn't be seventy eight, hundred or he wouldn't be
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: seventy eight hundred and ten to fifteen percent, owned he'd
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: be seventy eight hundred and three percent, owned or he'd
- 1:06:11Speaker 3: be you, know ten to fifteen percent in the upper
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: SIX k. Range the quality of play That harmon has
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: played all season puts him more in like the upper
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: SIX k range for this week than the upper SEVEN k.
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: Range so it's already. Baked into his price and he's
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: still going to get ownership because of.
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: It, Yeah and there's two thoughts going on there to
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: what you. Said the one, is for first, off predominantly
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: you are a single entry up to three max, player
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: and so that decision is going to become very indicative
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: of how you feel about the rest of what's around
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: it versus a portfolio player is probably mixing in a
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: ton of these SEVEN k, guys and my point would be.
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: On so that's the first point on The so you
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: have to think about you just validated that you're, like,
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: Man i've got like three guys literally next door to
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: him and on my one to three, Max, LIKE i
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: don't even think there'd be a chance that he would
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: make it because of HOW i feel on a portfolio
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: of lineups or some That i'm thinking. About When i'm
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: explaining it that, way it's not just BECAUSE i have a,
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: portfolio but It's i'm thinking about the entire setup of it.
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: All Will harmon be in my lineups With Sea wou
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: And Bud caley and Can't lay and the exact chalk
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: build we just. Built, No but if my lineup is
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: already a let's just use this A scottie with A Corey,
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: Connors Ricky fowler And Michael kim at the, bottom and
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: THEN i kind of land in that range And harmon
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: ends up into the. Lineup i'll know, why and it's.
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: Not it's at the end of the, Day i've got
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: my three decisions down low made for that. Lineup instead
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: of trying to pick The rose or the Min wu
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: or The fitzpatrick Or thigaals of the world that it might.
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: Be i'm fine if it just lands on the better
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: projection and whatever it is on that, spot just based
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: on my stuff in an. Optimizer if it lands On
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: harmon there because it's, fine like that's where it. Landed
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: the rest of my lineup is built around a different thought.
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: Process so that's WHY i always say it's not who you,
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: play it's how you play. Them it's just it's so
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: many people are hung up on like these little ownership
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: numbers of, like, oh it'll it'll all be, This, well
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: it'll always be. That there's always there's always going to
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: be ownership of some sort on eighty five percent of
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: the field and then a very small, number if you,
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: know zero point one on everybody. Else like that's what
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: ownership projections are for and you'll get a good idea
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: of that when you go. In but being hung up
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: on that as like how you're thinking about it is
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: just it's IT'S i think you've already lost when you,
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: started because it's, like that's not the entire, game and
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: there's so many other factors going down the board of
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: building out a, lineup whether it is single entry or
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: one fifty max that is going from. There so let's
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: talk about The scotty version here for a. SECOND i,
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: MEAN i don't know how much there is to talk.
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: ABOUT i guess my my take on talking About scotty
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: is let's try and get to the real, number because
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: first of, all it's how popular do you think he'll
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: actually be based on what we? Have we we already
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: know what it is when you Build. Scotty, okay insert
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: all the seven k guys that, fit and where do
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: you land and all. That that's not really my thought
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: process here for this conversation this, week because it's a
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: little bit, Different but it's more of where do you
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: actually think it? Lands because we know the consequence of
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: or you, know you, know for lack thereof or lack
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: you know better term of the combinatorial ownership Of, like
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: If scotty does bloat to a bigger, number that means
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: the low six k's and the low seven's got much
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: more than we. Thought that means your Your patrick Can't,
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: lays Your Sam, burns is Your ludwigs maybe not as
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: popular as we. Thought again double. Digits, yes the numbers
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: change a lot here, though right if it's going to
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: Be scotty the Week scotty was twenty seven and Then
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: Alex smalley ends up being like nineteen beside, him when
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: we did not have either of those being that, High,
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: well they were correlated and they went together and so
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: both got bloated up to a bigger, number so or
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: steamed as people like to. Use so just your thoughts
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: on Where scotty actually ends up and?
- 1:09:46Speaker 3: Why, YEAH i think you, know you mentioned you guys
- 1:09:50Speaker 3: have at like twenty six, percent and you said that
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: you think you might be. HIGH i Think i'm more
- 1:09:55Speaker 3: likely to bring him up towards like thirty to thirty
- 1:09:57Speaker 3: five percent THAN i am to bring him down from
- 1:09:59Speaker 3: where we currently have him at twenty two. Percent BUT
- 1:10:01Speaker 3: i THINK i think he could very easily get to
- 1:10:05Speaker 3: like thirty because it is so easy to build lineups with.
- 1:10:07Speaker 3: Him you Click scotty and you go writ in post In.
- 1:10:10Speaker 3: Gerard three guys who have been in good, Form three
- 1:10:13Speaker 3: guys who should fit the golf course pretty. Well three
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: guys who we know are going to get some. Ownership,
- 1:10:18Speaker 3: regardless you're still left with seventy two to. Fifty, like
- 1:10:21Speaker 3: this is a very very easy lineup to. Build from
- 1:10:24Speaker 3: seventy two to. Fifty you can do what you. Want
- 1:10:26Speaker 3: you can go to you know A Cory connors Or
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: Ricky fowler who's sixty, Seven like you can Go connors
- 1:10:32Speaker 3: and now the course, History, Darling Brian.
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: Harmon that's that's a very solid.
- 1:10:37Speaker 3: Lineup that's a lineup where every single person who builds
- 1:10:40Speaker 3: something like that is going to feel good about all
- 1:10:42Speaker 3: six slots of their, lineup which has been very rare
- 1:10:46Speaker 3: For scotty lineups this year and it's Why scotty lineups
- 1:10:49Speaker 3: have been held in check so. Much but Now scotty
- 1:10:52Speaker 3: just showed, like you, know that charge On saturday was
- 1:10:55Speaker 3: the first time we saw The scotti of last year
- 1:10:58Speaker 3: this year since his you, know a debut. Win SO
- 1:11:03Speaker 3: i think we kind of have a perfect storm, Here.
- 1:11:05Speaker 3: Scott he just showed signs of real. Life this is
- 1:11:08Speaker 3: the easy it's been the easiest it's been to build
- 1:11:11Speaker 3: really good liners with. HIM I i'm thinking thirty percent
- 1:11:15Speaker 3: For scotty.
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: Lineups, YEAH i guess after all the, conversation that's WHAT
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: i WHY i wanted to have it this. WAY i
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: kind of feel like our number might just be right.
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: THEN i think it's, like you, know twenty five to
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: thirty and that that would make sense to your point.
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: THERE i guess more people will be comfortable based on
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: the event and the cut and all that stuff versus no.
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: CUT i, mean like so it's like you're setting it
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: up where like they can play and you've, got you,
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: know more comfortability when we have that of people, Saying,
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: okay they're gonna, play they're gonna. SCORE i can play these.
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: Guys And i'm sure more versions of this will. Form
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: but it's like you, said we did it with The darling.
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: There you could have it With fowler instead Of. Connors
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: you could have it with, uh you, Know, fox or
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: you could have it with going up To smally and
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: then Bringing gerard down to you, Know nora in Or
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: rio or something like. That So Eric, cole that type of.
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: Thing SO i do think there's more ways that this gets,
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: built or maybe it's not. Posted maybe it's like a
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: smally keep harmon in there and then you know somebody
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: mentioned Like decky Nap lowry whatever it ends up, being
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: even Ox. Shay there's a lot of versions that this can.
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: Hit it is interesting that they're not projecting as. Well
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: so when we get to the optimizer world of people
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: putting them out there and again not sure exactly what
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: will be Finalize like this, is AS i always say
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: on here while we bring it up in advance for,
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: everyone is our rough draft and just using our lineup,
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: builder the handbuilder to go through. It these are not
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: near like the optimals over five twenty five or. Something
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: so it's like ten point. Shy not that means nothing
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: in like the median score end of the world when
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: it comes to what you actually, Play i'm, saying but
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: what people land on that will dictate sometimes keeping the
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: ownership a little bit more in check if these full
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: lineups aren't playing out that. Way but there's tons of
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: variations that still scored five eighteen or five, nineteen that
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: type of. Thing so, yeah do you think we got
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: the number probably right On. Scotty when you talk about
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: leveraging the builds that we just talked, about let's move.
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: On what are some of the ways you're thinking that
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: we can leverage and chock build this?
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: Week well Within scotty.
- 1:13:13Speaker 3: LINEUPS i think you made an awesome point already That,
- 1:13:16Speaker 3: like so here's SOMETHING i just played around with with
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: my with my, Ownership, like if we Get scotty up
- 1:13:23Speaker 3: from twenty two percent to thirty two, percent what has
- 1:13:27Speaker 3: to happen in order for this to make sense from
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: a salary owned, Perspective, well that upper six k range
- 1:13:33Speaker 3: low seven k range guys have to go way. Up
- 1:13:35Speaker 3: so like instead of you, know The Fowler, Connor, Straka
- 1:13:39Speaker 3: gerard writing kind of group being maybe ten percent or
- 1:13:45Speaker 3: a little bit over ten, percent they're a little bit
- 1:13:48Speaker 3: short of fifteen percent or approaching twenty percent something like.
- 1:13:50Speaker 2: That like that that gets it.
- 1:13:52Speaker 3: Done so you're just talking about a five percentage point
- 1:13:55Speaker 3: increase for a handful of players in that upper six
- 1:13:58Speaker 3: k range can be an extra ten percentage points For.
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: Scotty that's very.
- 1:14:02Speaker 3: Doable and the reason this is such an important point
- 1:14:06Speaker 3: to make is because it means if you're Building scotti
- 1:14:08Speaker 3: lineups that's the thing you need to be aware. Of
- 1:14:11Speaker 3: if you Go, Scotty, Rayton, Girard, Smallly Straka cunners and
- 1:14:16Speaker 3: like that's your lineup or whatever or something along those,
- 1:14:19Speaker 3: lines you're running the risk of having, crazy crazy high
- 1:14:23Speaker 3: conditional ownerships Within scotty lineups on those. Guys SO i
- 1:14:26Speaker 3: THINK i think my preferred route would be to build
- 1:14:30Speaker 3: something like What pat AND i looked, at where you
- 1:14:34Speaker 3: take a chance on a really cheap guy or even
- 1:14:37Speaker 3: two really cheap, guys then avoid that upper six low
- 1:14:40Speaker 3: SEVEN k range and then go find your, favorite like you,
- 1:14:43Speaker 3: know mid to mid SEVEN k, players or maybe you
- 1:14:47Speaker 3: even get into the upper eights ones or the low
- 1:14:50Speaker 3: nines and go really cheap with some other. Spots so
- 1:14:53Speaker 3: really just trying to Avoid LIKE i think the best
- 1:14:56Speaker 3: way to put it, is when someone Clicks, scotty they're
- 1:14:58Speaker 3: left with what seventy two forty or something like. That
- 1:15:01Speaker 3: most people, then with their last five picks are going
- 1:15:03Speaker 3: to hug that price tag as much as possible so
- 1:15:06Speaker 3: that they can keep their worst player as good as.
- 1:15:08Speaker 3: Possible AND i think what we can do is we can,
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: say you know, what this is a no cut EVENTD
- 1:15:12Speaker 3: i can take on a little bit more. RISK i
- 1:15:14Speaker 3: can find someone who can really score well even if
- 1:15:16Speaker 3: they only finish twentieth, place and NOW i get access to,
- 1:15:21Speaker 3: another like a second really good player somewhere in the,
- 1:15:24Speaker 3: lineup and avoid the potential conditional ownership issues that will
- 1:15:29Speaker 3: come up If scotty ends up higher owned than What i'm.
- 1:15:32Speaker 3: Expecting and and it just makes you a little bit
- 1:15:35Speaker 3: immune to. That whereas if you build like The chalk
- 1:15:38Speaker 3: build And scotty ends up being fifteen percent or twenty,
- 1:15:41Speaker 3: percent you're in good, shape but you run the risk
- 1:15:44Speaker 3: of ending up with a really bad lineup if he
- 1:15:46Speaker 3: ends up thirty to thirty five.
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: Percent, YEAH i was just pulling this version up to
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: try and. See like, again this leaves one hundred. Bucks
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: so it's, basically in my opinion at least of like
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: a setup that you could See gerard could, Be Collie
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: Sea wou could be can't lay depending on how people
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: feel about last. Week this is a handbeild version of
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: The scotti to get to like the five twenty range
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: in the, projection and Like novak is another guy that
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: will see at the bottom what he actually. Changes, AGAIN
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: i think the more that people say, like, OH i
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: could get some scoring out of, them OR i could
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: make this whether It's Benjamin james down there at sixty four,
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: hundred if people just saw him have a GOOD us
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: open after all the ownership the week before they had,
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: him and people want to stick with. Him he fits
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: this build instead Of novak and you can just leave
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: it as. Is but this does feel like a like
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: this makes me feel better about the twenty six to
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: thirty that we talked, about because this will be. FINE
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: i think what was asked earlier By. Tim i'd brought
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: it up for a couple. Seconds but if you just,
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: roll it's like you gotta be comfortable with the fourth
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: guy in, there because this one it's kind of like
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: funny how this. Works but you look at this lineup
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: And i'll Leave tim's thing. Up, actually so you look
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: at this and you're, Like, Okay i'm gonna take Out
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: Sea wou and go back to. Anyway i'll go back
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: to WHAT i. HAD i basically said what you said it.
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: First you said like if you went with like A
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: Smally conners fowler give an example, here you don't even
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: GET i, mean you still only have, seven you still
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: only have eight k so even if you went with
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: Like Brian harmon The, darling like you, said if that's
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: what people want to, do you don't really get to
- 1:17:14Speaker 1: where you want to, go right you got to go
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: and then you, say, okay WELL i Want Sea wu in.
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: That now it, works, right that's where that version comes.
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: From but you're right back to the lower sevens with,
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: right and that's the one of the VERSIONS i just head.
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: Up it's it's funny, though it's like the opposite OF
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: i was talking about best buy. Pricing you don't feel,
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: Well i'm not using four SIX k, Guys i'm using.
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: Three then they're all at like the upper, end SO
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: i feel pretty good about. It and it's LIKE i
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: still Get Sea. Wu but it's like this guy could
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: just as easily like write and could be right and
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: actually could be a lot more because he's been like
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: popping off the page on sims and things like. That
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: But i'm just, saying like just noting. It whoever your
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: guy was here could be sixty nine hundred And Sea
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: wou could be ninety one and you'd get the same.
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: Lineup but it's. Funny, psychologically people wouldn't feel as good
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: about that because like man four six, K hey, guys
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: but it's really no difference right when you're looking at it.
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: Here SO i do think writing will be. POPULAR i
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: don't know what the final version of these guys will.
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: Be that will be what's interesting to see whether it
- 1:18:12Speaker 1: is like a you, know a let's go to no
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: back now in this. One this is the EXAMPLE i
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: brought up. Earlier and maybe It's gerard over colleague Because
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: collie's you, know last week miss, cut but he did win.
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: Recently i'm just noting it either of those. Two this
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: is another one that's WHAT i just head. Up see
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: how this feels so much different to people, like oh
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: But i'm only using two SIX k, guys even though
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: you've got a seventy two and a SEVEN k flat rate.
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: There SO i actually do think people will get pretty
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: comfortable with this, build now THAT i thought about. It,
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: YEAH i do.
- 1:18:40Speaker 2: TOO i think it's gonna be a popular.
- 1:18:42Speaker 3: BUILD i think the only way to really deviate is
- 1:18:45Speaker 3: there's a very clear tear break in the sixes where
- 1:18:49Speaker 3: like That Fowler connor struck us, smally and then let's
- 1:18:54Speaker 3: Throw girard in there as. Well those guys are head
- 1:18:57Speaker 3: and shoulders above basically everyone sixty six and. Down maybe
- 1:19:01Speaker 3: you could Throw fox into that group as, Well but
- 1:19:04Speaker 3: now that we're we're not on a, hard windy golf,
- 1:19:07Speaker 3: COURSES i Think fox gets a bit of a bump.
- 1:19:10Speaker 3: Down SO i think optimizers especially are not going to
- 1:19:16Speaker 3: go down to like sixty, three sixty, four sixty, two
- 1:19:18Speaker 3: sixty one very. OFTEN i think that's probably my. Favorite
- 1:19:23Speaker 3: it's either my favorite or my second favorite way of doing.
- 1:19:26Speaker 3: This where my favorite might, be like you don't go
- 1:19:29Speaker 3: into the sixes at, all and you stay in the
- 1:19:32Speaker 3: sevens because there are a bunch of guys there right around,
- 1:19:35Speaker 3: that Like Price, sage where It's, Bridgeman, Hoyguard matsuyama. Lower
- 1:19:40Speaker 3: you can even take a chance On nap you, know
- 1:19:43Speaker 3: coming off, injury he's going to be really low, owned
- 1:19:45Speaker 3: where if those guys aren't gonna be, owned you're not
- 1:19:48Speaker 3: gonna run into any conditional ownership issue.
- 1:19:50Speaker 2: There BUT i think the.
- 1:19:51Speaker 3: Maybe the easier way to do, it especially if you
- 1:19:53Speaker 3: want access to a, second really really really good. PLAYER
- 1:19:57Speaker 3: i think it's instead of living in that upper six k,
- 1:19:59Speaker 3: range you take two shots instead of three or four
- 1:20:03Speaker 3: in the really low six k.
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: Range, Agreed, ALSO i will say this to all four
- 1:20:07Speaker 1: under seventy a very big, thing and that could be
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: massive On sunday when you know everyone's got their lineups
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: and they're all happy with. Them but it's like at
- 1:20:13Speaker 1: the end of the day in The scotty, lineup one
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: of the six k guys had you, know two of
- 1:20:17Speaker 1: them aren't going to get The all four under seventy
- 1:20:19Speaker 1: because of one bad round or something across the, board
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: versus the double stud build Without scotty or like the
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: more balanced build ends up having it where all they
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: all the guys just, crush have some extra crazy spike
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: rounds in there and then end up having a really
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: good position placement as well and mixed in and maybe
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: the winner still comes from that group And scotty second or.
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: Something and then now that lineup really could flip the
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- 1:21:57Speaker 1: bring that up before we keep rolling here BECAUSE i
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: saw this and this is a big guyism for, sure
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: right it was actually pick your own slap dicks was
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: how he worded. It but pick your own losers is,
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: true and well we agreed very heavily on. THIS i
- 1:22:12Speaker 1: also would, say like in you, know other, conversations and
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: Even james was pretty open about this IS i think
- 1:22:17Speaker 1: a lot of people also think this is only slap.
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: Dicks was for mainly like the lower end range of
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: like the SIX k, range because obviously that's where it's
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: a little bit. Different you, know someone getting to twelve
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: fifteen percent the six k range is nuts when there's
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: twenty thirty guys around, Them so you won't see me
- 1:22:30Speaker 1: go there too. Often BUT i think it's also like
- 1:22:32Speaker 1: when you say pick your own losers to think about,
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: leverage it's, like who are the guys up? Top like
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: Would Matt fitzpatrick be that? Bad, No but it's just
- 1:22:41Speaker 1: he's being considered bad because why are you going to
- 1:22:43Speaker 1: him at ten k flat when you can go To Xander,
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: Fleetwood ludwig Sam, burns all these other guys. There so
- 1:22:49Speaker 1: like if you started out with A fitzpatrick J t
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: or let's use something like, this take Off fitzpatrick for
- 1:22:57Speaker 1: a second and you, Know Morkwa henley and then decide
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: do you want to come up over the top and
- 1:23:02Speaker 1: still land in that similar range that everybody else is landing.
- 1:23:05Speaker 1: On like stat said, earlier these guys will have double
- 1:23:08Speaker 1: digit ownership most, Likely but is it ten point two
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: percent eleven point two like it, shows or is it you,
- 1:23:14Speaker 1: know could it drop to?
- 1:23:15Speaker 3: Nine?
- 1:23:16Speaker 1: Again it's not about that number, really it's just how
- 1:23:18Speaker 1: different is this alex of a way to build every
- 1:23:21Speaker 1: lineup sort of landed in that seventy three hundred dollars?
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: Range but did it land there With, Fitzpatrick moricow And Henley.
- 1:23:27Speaker 3: Not THAT i thought, over not THAT i saw, Yeah
- 1:23:30Speaker 3: or like you could Start fitzpatrick and Cam jung and
- 1:23:33Speaker 3: like that's the kind of start where, like let's say
- 1:23:34Speaker 3: it works out really, well everyone is going to look
- 1:23:37Speaker 3: back on and, say oh my, god ALL i had
- 1:23:38Speaker 3: to do was play the two guys who have had
- 1:23:40Speaker 3: the best seasons all, year AND i could do that
- 1:23:42Speaker 3: at low ownership and have a really unique combination of the.
- 1:23:45Speaker 3: Top so if you, want if you really want to
- 1:23:48Speaker 3: play Like Brian harmon And rayton and a lot of
- 1:23:51Speaker 3: these other really chucky, GUYS i think that's that's one
- 1:23:54Speaker 3: way to do, it, right is you just, okay if
- 1:23:56Speaker 3: you're gonna eat that kind of, chalk, now just go
- 1:23:59Speaker 3: and play them the really contrarian start and that that's,
- 1:24:01Speaker 3: uh that's still a very solid. Belt so uh not
- 1:24:04Speaker 3: that not That harmon's like super super chalky and standing
- 1:24:07Speaker 3: out amongst his peers in, ownership BUT i think he
- 1:24:11Speaker 3: he and you know other Chalk like if you want
- 1:24:13Speaker 3: to Embrace Sea wou for, example or you want you,
- 1:24:18Speaker 3: know multiple pieces of that upper six k, range this
- 1:24:22Speaker 3: IS i think a very smart way to do.
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: That, YEAH i will say this is, uh you know
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: to as we, said we BOTH i think botched it
- 1:24:28Speaker 1: on this. One but what the saying is is to
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: to put a bow on, it and and to put
- 1:24:32Speaker 1: a bow on. This And i'm glad you brought up
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: The harmon. One this is a prime. Example this is
- 1:24:35Speaker 1: what tilts people the. Most they they Blame Brian harmon
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: chalk and again he may not even be super. Popular
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: just to note the, example, though they, say of course
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: this chalk, donkey, loser chalk idiot got there scoring like
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: Crazy Bud caley a couple of weeks, ago might have
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: Been fitzpatrick at eighty nine hundred last, week like what
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: an absolute loser play that got. There it's, like, yeah
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: but do you, know like less than one percent of
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: the lineups of the entire, field of all the best
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: players in the, world the, casuals you name, it, Everything
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: like one percent of the lineups Have harmon With Cam
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: young And fitzpatrick as a trio like. That so you
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: just played him. Bad it wasn't who you, play it
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: was how you played him and how it ended up playing.
- 1:25:14Speaker 1: Out and this is the prime example where it's like you,
- 1:25:16Speaker 1: said once you go this, start it's up to you
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: what you. Do doesn't mean that you have to Play
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: Ryan harmon. Either we're just saying if you were going
- 1:25:22Speaker 1: to Play Brian, harmon this would be a way where
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: you could separate. It and when everyone else is tilting
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: him for being the worst play of all time at that,
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: ownership it's, like this is the way where you can
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: set it up and, say, well, yeah BUT i didn't
- 1:25:33Speaker 1: play him like you and ninety nine percent of the field.
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: DID i played him my, Way and so it's not
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: just you, know the saying like player own slap digs
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: also like play them in your own way is another
- 1:25:42Speaker 1: added on piece.
- 1:25:43Speaker 2: That that could be fine now AND i hope, no
- 1:25:49Speaker 2: of course.
- 1:25:49Speaker 1: Not but LIKE i, said also, too when you're considering,
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: it and for, me for, example from my main, Lineup
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: i'm probably not considering it. Either but it's like When
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: i'm looking at it from a perspective of how he
- 1:25:58Speaker 1: gets into my, LINEUPS i know how he. DOES i
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: know exactly how he. Does it's all baked in and
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: built into, it and then you run out the sims
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: on top of, that and you sort of look at
- 1:26:05Speaker 1: what the field's, doing AND i may end up with
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: an underweight stance on him because he's not popping off
- 1:26:11Speaker 1: the board, there and if the field is gonna, overall
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: if he is gonna be over owned for that, position that's.
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: Fine he might end up in ten percent of my
- 1:26:17Speaker 1: lineups versus the fields on fifteen, percent And i'm five.
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: Under but then my ten percent of the lineups are
- 1:26:23Speaker 1: all built in a way where it's, like, OKAY i
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: hopefully Have harmon where when the rest of the people
- 1:26:27Speaker 1: that have him are tilting because they got something else
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: wrong with, it maybe some of my lineups have them
- 1:26:32Speaker 1: in a good. Way that's really What i'm hoping, for
- 1:26:33Speaker 1: and THAT i was. GIVING i was give stat, shit
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: SO i gotta give him credit to as the funny ones.
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: Is but even if fifteen percent smashes that donkey, chock
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: still means eighty five percent didn't have. Them and that's.
- 1:26:43Speaker 1: True AND i know you're you're run along with the.
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: Joke and that's WHY i love always chatting with, you
- 1:26:46Speaker 1: because you're open to fun feedback and engagement and having you,
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: know back and. Forth and like you, said there's way
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: more ways to do. This it's not like my. WAY
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: i just give my opinions of my thoughts on, it
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: but just noting. It it's like it's not even just
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: the fifteen percent that have them in the eighty five that.
- 1:26:59Speaker 1: Don't and it's what we just showed With, Fitzpatrick young
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: And harmon that is like a one percent or less
- 1:27:05Speaker 1: trio to start out a lineup where if you end
- 1:27:07Speaker 1: up needing those three and someone's, like, damn of course
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: that Loser harmon got. There it's like nobody played them
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: with those, Guys so it's like looking at it from
- 1:27:14Speaker 1: that perspective is always the, key and it's about your
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: total build. Overall statt did have a good one too
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: here want to contray And construction don't play any SEVEN k.
- 1:27:25Speaker 2: GUYS i don't know IF i agree with. THAT i,
- 1:27:28Speaker 2: think what are?
- 1:27:30Speaker 3: YOU i think we'll see plenty of lineups that that
- 1:27:32Speaker 3: have like three guys in the SIX k range and
- 1:27:34Speaker 3: don't need anyone in the.
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: Sevens it feels, like, YEAH i mean it's hard, though
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: because when you saw Every chalk build we, did there
- 1:27:41Speaker 1: was three SEVEN k guys and almost all of them
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: or at least, Two SO i guess you know what
- 1:27:46Speaker 1: is the point, Though let's just say it's, uh who
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: do we say?
- 1:27:48Speaker 3: ABOUT i think that's true Of scotty, lineups BUT i
- 1:27:53Speaker 3: think outside of, sky like if you, start let's Say Xander.
- 1:27:57Speaker 2: Burns and see, wu you can very easily do Like
- 1:28:04Speaker 2: Connors smallly.
- 1:28:06Speaker 3: And then that would give you something in the. EIGHTS i,
- 1:28:09Speaker 3: think so let me let me find THAT i got it.
- 1:28:11Speaker 3: Here what do you, Say smally and Who? Connors, Yeah
- 1:28:14Speaker 3: Smally connors and then you're you're left with you, know
- 1:28:16Speaker 3: eight point. Two so whether It's griffin, McIntyre Rye, english
- 1:28:21Speaker 3: obviously you're not using anyone in the in the sevens.
- 1:28:24Speaker 3: There it could also be like instead Of, xander it
- 1:28:26Speaker 3: could be a more balanced lineup where you're, going let's
- 1:28:29Speaker 3: SAY jt as your first guy in and now you have,
- 1:28:33Speaker 3: oh it wouldn't even BE jt as your first guy
- 1:28:35Speaker 3: in because you'd have now ninety two hundred for your
- 1:28:38Speaker 3: your last. Spot so like it could be you, Know,
- 1:28:40Speaker 3: burns J, T morikawa And kim and now two SIX k.
- 1:28:44Speaker 3: Guys SO i think there are plenty of ways that
- 1:28:47Speaker 3: you can actually do. This maybe you would be Like
- 1:28:49Speaker 3: oberg is the first man in and now you're left
- 1:28:51Speaker 3: with god Her Up hoveland Or kegan as the last guy.
- 1:28:55Speaker 3: In so there are there are lots of, lineups particularly
- 1:29:00Speaker 3: Non scotti, lineups that very naturally avoid the SEVEN k,
- 1:29:04Speaker 3: range not because they're purposely avoiding the, sevens but just
- 1:29:07Speaker 3: because the upper SIX k guys are really really. Underpriced
- 1:29:12Speaker 3: and then if you start that and you and you're
- 1:29:14Speaker 3: not if you start that way and you're not paying
- 1:29:16Speaker 3: all the way up For, scottie like you can just
- 1:29:18Speaker 3: get four really solid players in your in your raining
- 1:29:21Speaker 3: four spots where you don't even have to come close
- 1:29:23Speaker 3: to that SEVEN k.
- 1:29:24Speaker 1: Range, YEAH i also think. Too this is another prime
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: example where it's like people make good, points LIKE i
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: like this point for, sure AND i like WHAT i
- 1:29:32Speaker 1: actually agree here with stat he, said of course you
- 1:29:34Speaker 1: can do. IT i just don't think it'll be common
- 1:29:36Speaker 1: probably probably. Not LIKE i, SAID i think there's so
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: many lineups that haven't Even i'm gonna do it again.
- 1:29:39Speaker 1: Here but this would just be another prime position where
- 1:29:42Speaker 1: people will, say, like, oh better spin the wheel and
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: hope that it's one of the Good bobby, macweeks or,
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: like let me see If Ben griffin can return to,
- 1:29:50Speaker 1: that you know way he was last year and whatever
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: it might, be just to avoid that. Range this is
- 1:29:55Speaker 1: a prime position to plug in A harmon where it's
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: like you have eighty two hundred left and you're, like all,
- 1:29:59Speaker 1: right how DO i Play? Harmon different? Way play him
- 1:30:01Speaker 1: in a one SEVEN k lineup that also fits an
- 1:30:04Speaker 1: EIGHT k. Guy, well almost an. Example it's totally, different
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: but of LIKE Nfl showdown where you need six. Guys it's, like,
- 1:30:11Speaker 1: OKAY i Got Chase Jamar chase, money But i'm just
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: gonna PLAY T. Higgins it's everyone's Playing Jamar chase or
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: the majority and the benefiting golf and it's the same
- 1:30:20Speaker 1: and that six spots to fill different, captains et. Cetera
- 1:30:23Speaker 1: but you don't know what's going on in the rest
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: of the build and then you're landing that little added
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: bonus at the.
- 1:30:29Speaker 2: End can you bring that last stat coming?
- 1:30:31Speaker 3: UP i love that you just went to TO Nfl
- 1:30:35Speaker 3: showdown because that's exactly WHERE i was gonna take this
- 1:30:38Speaker 3: response as. Well the reason why this whole thing, matters
- 1:30:41Speaker 3: like it why whether or not the construction is going
- 1:30:45Speaker 3: to be contrarian or, common why it matters is conditional.
- 1:30:49Speaker 3: Ownership and so we can think of LIKE Nfl, showdown
- 1:30:52Speaker 3: when let's say you have four rams in and one.
- 1:30:57Speaker 3: Seahawk the vast majority of people in a competitive game
- 1:31:02Speaker 3: like that are then going to want that last spot
- 1:31:04Speaker 3: in their lineup to be A seahawk no matter, what
- 1:31:06Speaker 3: because they would rather have a four to two than
- 1:31:08Speaker 3: a five to ONE. Rams so you're getting conditional ownership
- 1:31:12Speaker 3: advantage on that last spot if you go to A
- 1:31:14Speaker 3: ram then than you would if you go to A. Seahawk,
- 1:31:18Speaker 3: similarly in a lot OF pga, lineups people will choose
- 1:31:22Speaker 3: like their last two v two in a very specific
- 1:31:25Speaker 3: way that puts them on a specific build because they
- 1:31:27Speaker 3: feel like they have to get access to a certain
- 1:31:31Speaker 3: price range or something like, that or there's a group
- 1:31:34Speaker 3: of players that they need to get access, to and
- 1:31:36Speaker 3: so you get a conditional ownership advantage by going to
- 1:31:40Speaker 3: a different roster. Construction the reason why WHEN i, say,
- 1:31:44Speaker 3: LIKE i don't think it's going to be uncommon to
- 1:31:46Speaker 3: have a lineup that avoids the SEVEN k, Range, essentially
- 1:31:50Speaker 3: What i'm saying, IS i don't think you're gaining any
- 1:31:52Speaker 3: conditional ownership advantage anywhere in the lineup by avoiding the
- 1:31:56Speaker 3: SEVEN k, range because there are so many lineups where
- 1:32:01Speaker 3: people aren't presented with the decision that they're going to
- 1:32:04Speaker 3: be like naturally drawn to that SEVEN k.
- 1:32:07Speaker 2: Range does that make, Sense, Tambo.
- 1:32:10Speaker 1: Yes it's it matters, TOO i think on A scotty,
- 1:32:12Speaker 1: slate because it's like, again it almost goes back to
- 1:32:16Speaker 1: it almost ties together with when you've talked in the
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: past about like the FOUR Vv like you know you've
- 1:32:21Speaker 1: got three v three or four v four the same
- 1:32:24Speaker 1: it's it's like that's already the. Same it's like you're
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: getting two. Spot and even if you are picking your
- 1:32:28Speaker 1: own guys down, LOW i still agree that this, WEEK
- 1:32:31Speaker 1: i just. DON'T i don't see very many lineups landing
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: without a SEVEN k guy because it's just so. Easy
- 1:32:37Speaker 1: and even LIKE i, said in certain, variations LIKE i
- 1:32:38Speaker 1: showed that you could still get, there BUT i see
- 1:32:41Speaker 1: exactly what your point is and what you're, saying and
- 1:32:43Speaker 1: this again like just another even when you go outside
- 1:32:46Speaker 1: of The scottie world for, this it's like you just
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: you kind of end up on the same. SHOW i,
- 1:32:51Speaker 1: know like everyone's, like, well you're just clicking the most Obvious,
- 1:32:53Speaker 1: Okay Like i'm just gonna show you here Like Harry
- 1:32:56Speaker 1: hall And Michael. Kim, okay, Fine like you're you're not
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: on the same thing across the, board but like let's
- 1:33:04Speaker 1: just say that that now makes you up top go
- 1:33:07Speaker 1: to something along the lines of you know what ends
- 1:33:10Speaker 1: up being popular? Here will this be a popular? Builder? Duped,
- 1:33:13Speaker 1: No but for a lineup that avoids the, sevens it's
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: got the two most popular eight, k's and it's very
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: likely that you'll get to a popular TEN, k whether
- 1:33:22Speaker 1: it's A fleetwood or A zander or whatever it might,
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: be and then a couple things are. Different but that's
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: like force feeding it with the low Owned if you're
- 1:33:31Speaker 1: doing this in an optimizer, too by the, way it's
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: not gonna feed You hall Or kim very often because
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: for the exact same, money you can go down and
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: just Get let's just Use, keegan WHO i think will
- 1:33:42Speaker 1: be more. Popular and now it's gonna want to have
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: Like smally and we'll Use ricky right five point twenty.
- 1:33:50Speaker 1: Two by the, Way so when you talk about what
- 1:33:52Speaker 1: an optimizer is gonna plug in what we talked about
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: this whole, show like oh, no seven k, guys but
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: again everyone's bill to be different in, this but just
- 1:33:58Speaker 1: showing you what that's going to typically happen where you're, like,
- 1:34:01Speaker 1: MAN i didn't hit the, SEVENS i didn't hit The
- 1:34:04Speaker 1: the guys above flee No. Scotty it's like the the
- 1:34:07Speaker 1: inverse of, this by the, way is the exact same.
- 1:34:09Speaker 1: Thing it's, Oh scotty with no, Sevens, Okay, scotty see,
- 1:34:14Speaker 1: Wu i'm gonna go to who's the other?
- 1:34:17Speaker 3: Poppet we, said, like as as you build, THIS i
- 1:34:19Speaker 3: THINK i think like. This this is gonna make my
- 1:34:21Speaker 3: my point pretty. WELL i think another way to think
- 1:34:24Speaker 3: about this is, like what are the chances that someone
- 1:34:27Speaker 3: goes through a lineup and just chooses who they think
- 1:34:30Speaker 3: are the best plays and lands in a lineup that
- 1:34:33Speaker 3: doesn't have anyone in the seven. Ks that's gonna be
- 1:34:37Speaker 3: really uncommon With scotti lineups because in order to do,
- 1:34:40Speaker 3: that you're you're gonna have, to you, know do something
- 1:34:42Speaker 3: funky like. This you're probably gonna have to land on
- 1:34:45Speaker 3: a SIX k player that is not in that range
- 1:34:47Speaker 3: of guys that we said is like a tier above
- 1:34:49Speaker 3: the other SIX k.
- 1:34:50Speaker 2: Guys so that's gonna make it.
- 1:34:51Speaker 3: Harder but outside Of scotty, lineups it's very it's gonna
- 1:34:57Speaker 3: be fairly. Common it's you, know it's it's very. Easy
- 1:34:59Speaker 3: it's very for someone to land on the line if
- 1:35:01Speaker 3: that doesn't have anyone in the, sevens just because there
- 1:35:03Speaker 3: are so many good plays elsewhere that kind of create
- 1:35:07Speaker 3: just a strong lineup as a.
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: Whole and this was it, like you, know you do
- 1:35:10Speaker 1: something like this and then it's, like, okay it's can't
- 1:35:13Speaker 1: lay or it's. HIM i, mean, LIKE i think this
- 1:35:15Speaker 1: is where people also look at it and, go, well
- 1:35:17Speaker 1: no one's gonna play this version of it because you
- 1:35:19Speaker 1: have to spend all the. Money you don't have to
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: spend all the. Money that's What i'm. Saying so that's
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: WHY i said, Earlier like from a technical, STANDPOINT i see,
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: It but, like if you look at it this, WAY
- 1:35:29Speaker 1: i do think someone's going to cancel out a guy,
- 1:35:31Speaker 1: here maybe it's it's whoever and, say, Yeah i'm just
- 1:35:35Speaker 1: gonna play. Writing but you, know so three six, Games
- 1:35:39Speaker 1: so The scotti lineups just end up like. This and
- 1:35:41Speaker 1: if someone's willing to Play straka over writ and just
- 1:35:43Speaker 1: to say they don't have a SEVEN k guy or, whatever,
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: Fine BUT i do think most of The scotti lineups
- 1:35:48Speaker 1: are going to have two Of Smally Writing gerard those.
- 1:35:54Speaker 1: Guys but if it was only in the upper six
- 1:35:56Speaker 1: is we know by projection who it's likely going to,
- 1:35:58Speaker 1: be you'd have to handle it out. Separately but THEN
- 1:36:01Speaker 1: i feel like you're gonna get too much of the
- 1:36:03Speaker 1: needle in the haystack APPROACH i talk about all the,
- 1:36:05Speaker 1: time or the diamond and the rough AS i usually call,
- 1:36:07Speaker 1: it where it's, like, well If i'm doing, that And
- 1:36:10Speaker 1: i'm gonna be. DIFFERENT i Think Michael, KIM i don't
- 1:36:14Speaker 1: think enough people are talking About eric Cole fina could
- 1:36:17Speaker 1: be his. Week tambo sometimes Likes Sung jay will now
- 1:36:21Speaker 1: forced Into scotty BECAUSE i have eleven eight and nobody
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: else is even near, that and it lands on This oh, Wow,
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: ludwig and that's your, build and it's, like first of,
- 1:36:30Speaker 1: all it's like way, off which it's a medium. PROJECTION
- 1:36:32Speaker 1: i get, that but it's also like you've kind of
- 1:36:35Speaker 1: just hand picked the four guys and it's like a
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: six game parlay that you've forced where you're picking underdogs
- 1:36:42Speaker 1: on purpose and all of this, stuff when you could
- 1:36:44Speaker 1: just build a better lineup overall and not force yourself
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: into this just to say you did, it and most
- 1:36:50Speaker 1: those other builds that you would land on then end
- 1:36:52Speaker 1: up being the popular Versions alex talked. About that's WHERE
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: i see where you're coming. From, fully anything else you
- 1:36:57Speaker 1: want to add on this stuff for the, Week if,
- 1:36:59Speaker 1: not let's talk about the best. Breakdown, yeah it's.
- 1:37:01Speaker 3: Funny we thought we were gonna have one of our
- 1:37:03Speaker 3: quicker shows of the. Year it's quickly become one of
- 1:37:06Speaker 3: the longest shows of the.
- 1:37:07Speaker 1: Year but, fine people are sticking around people are. WATCHING
- 1:37:09Speaker 1: i always say that it's LIKE i really don't have
- 1:37:11Speaker 1: anything else better to. Do i'm sure there's lots that
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: can be working, on like, yourself but this is the
- 1:37:15Speaker 1: point of these shows and why you AND i have
- 1:37:18Speaker 1: so much fun doing it is because it's way more
- 1:37:20Speaker 1: LIKE i say this all the time. Too i'll say
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: it again here because it's a random. Week but like
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: we do the early, shows and LIKE i always talk about,
- 1:37:27Speaker 1: this like the you, know you can capitalize on the
- 1:37:30Speaker 1: clicks by getting your shows out. Early AND i understand that.
- 1:37:33Speaker 1: Too we do it as much as. Possible other people
- 1:37:35Speaker 1: do it all of, That LIKE i get, it and
- 1:37:37Speaker 1: we understand why that. Is we do it. Too but
- 1:37:40Speaker 1: also you can help people capitalize on making the most,
- 1:37:44Speaker 1: money and that's what we like to do and teach
- 1:37:46Speaker 1: and learn and you AND i both riffing back and
- 1:37:48Speaker 1: forth trying to figure that stuff. Out that's our number
- 1:37:50Speaker 1: one goal for both of. Us with your discord With,
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: mastermind do you have a Mastermid Shiit, Nation all the
- 1:37:54Speaker 1: stuff that we do is about helping. Others there's nobody
- 1:37:57Speaker 1: that can help you capitalize on A thursday show for
- 1:38:00Speaker 1: A wednesday Night thursday morning event like lock for, yourself
- 1:38:04Speaker 1: whether it's you got to go to Bed wednesday, night
- 1:38:06Speaker 1: wake up and just SWEAT wds or whether you should
- 1:38:08Speaker 1: be waiting right Until thursday. Morning but my point is
- 1:38:10Speaker 1: it's like this show gets great views for when we
- 1:38:14Speaker 1: put it, out but you, know we could put it
- 1:38:16Speaker 1: out three days early it be. Useless like most of
- 1:38:19Speaker 1: the stuff we're talking about is very specific to helping
- 1:38:21Speaker 1: you make. Money this specific slate this, week these builds
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: all of, that and that's WHAT i. Love take pride
- 1:38:27Speaker 1: AND i know you're the, same and that's why we
- 1:38:28Speaker 1: have so much fun doing, it and that's why the
- 1:38:30Speaker 1: chat's more involved and all that type of. Thing it's
- 1:38:33Speaker 1: just really good from that. Perspective so, hopefully you, know
- 1:38:35Speaker 1: people understand that if you do like this, show continue
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- 1:38:47Speaker 1: Money that's really what it comes down.
- 1:38:48Speaker 3: To for The benning, breakdown MY i only have one
- 1:38:53Speaker 3: outright so far this, week and it's it's funny because
- 1:38:56Speaker 3: it perfectly kind of encapsulates the discussion we had earlier about,
- 1:38:59Speaker 3: like sticking with your, guys it Is Justin. Rose let
- 1:39:03Speaker 3: me remind myself what NUMBER i got on him using
- 1:39:07Speaker 3: the one fifth each way for three. SPOTS i think
- 1:39:10Speaker 3: it was seventy.
- 1:39:11Speaker 1: Five there was seventy five to.
- 1:39:12Speaker 2: One, yeah seventy five to one.
- 1:39:14Speaker 3: There and it's funny BECAUSE i caught myself like, thinking
- 1:39:19Speaker 3: DO i really want to make this bet? Again and
- 1:39:21Speaker 3: THEN i, realized wait a, Minute i'm way up this
- 1:39:25Speaker 3: year On Justin rose outright bets BECAUSE i got, One
- 1:39:28Speaker 3: so why in the world WOULD i ever not go
- 1:39:30Speaker 3: back to.
- 1:39:30Speaker 2: It he continues to play. Well he continues to be
- 1:39:33Speaker 2: one of the most volatile players on.
- 1:39:34Speaker 3: Tour his ball striking has now been awesome in three
- 1:39:38Speaker 3: of the last four, weeks so we're, like we're getting
- 1:39:40Speaker 3: the approach spikes that we need from him in order
- 1:39:42Speaker 3: to be able to win a golf tournament on a consistent.
- 1:39:45Speaker 3: Basis he just hasn't had the level of spike putting
- 1:39:48Speaker 3: week that we know he's going to have in the
- 1:39:50Speaker 3: future that he's super capable of have of having. That
- 1:39:53Speaker 3: he's had a bunch over the last, year including both
- 1:39:57Speaker 3: of his. Wins he's driving the ball a lot better
- 1:40:00Speaker 3: than he has in the. Pass he's now gained consistently
- 1:40:02Speaker 3: a gain considerably in three consecutive events off the. Tee,
- 1:40:06Speaker 3: like he's the ultimate outright bet this, week and he
- 1:40:09Speaker 3: continues to be the most of all little player on
- 1:40:12Speaker 3: tour by our.
- 1:40:14Speaker 2: Event to event standard deviation.
- 1:40:15Speaker 3: Numbers So, ROSE i think is just an, awesome awesome
- 1:40:18Speaker 3: bet this, week very easy click to go back. To
- 1:40:21Speaker 3: AND i can't even believe THAT i ever questioned it
- 1:40:24Speaker 3: just because he hasn't won in the last few times
- 1:40:27Speaker 3: THAT i bet, him BECAUSE i already have the outright
- 1:40:29Speaker 3: victory with him this, year and of course we shouldn't
- 1:40:32Speaker 3: expect him to win all the. Time you, know he's
- 1:40:35Speaker 3: got a three point one percent chance of winning in
- 1:40:37Speaker 3: our model this, week which is, crazy crazy high for this.
- 1:40:41Speaker 3: Number it's probably the highest around the, industry but he's
- 1:40:45Speaker 3: backed that up over the last year and more so
- 1:40:48Speaker 3: also to that, Point, like one of the reasons why
- 1:40:51Speaker 3: we are so much higher than most on his outright
- 1:40:55Speaker 3: odds is because he has the second best, no, yeah
- 1:41:00Speaker 3: second best contention performance score in this, field and that's
- 1:41:04Speaker 3: gonna help him get it.
- 1:41:04Speaker 2: Done if he's in. Contention, YEAH i like.
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: That maybe we got to stick With hideki too on the.
- 1:41:09Speaker 1: Bat what was he one hundred and ten or one
- 1:41:11Speaker 1: hundred and fifty or something last? Time so maybe we
- 1:41:13Speaker 1: just go back.
- 1:41:13Speaker 3: To let me, see let me see what he's at,
- 1:41:15Speaker 3: Again LIKE i do think That decki's uh not so
- 1:41:21Speaker 3: great of a course. Fail, okay he's seventy in the base,
- 1:41:24Speaker 3: market so, yeah he might. Be he might be over
- 1:41:26Speaker 3: one hundred, again what what win odds do we give?
- 1:41:31Speaker 3: Him seventy three one point? Nine so, yeah he's definitely
- 1:41:37Speaker 3: popping as a as a very good, Outright let's see
- 1:41:40Speaker 3: what is he in that specific?
- 1:41:42Speaker 2: Market uh?
- 1:41:46Speaker 1: More?
- 1:41:49Speaker 2: SHOOPS i want oh my, god keep.
- 1:41:51Speaker 1: Scrolling let's get a big.
- 1:41:52Speaker 3: One what's the number it's not gonna. BE i don't
- 1:41:55Speaker 3: think it's gonna be. HUGE i think it's gonna be
- 1:41:57Speaker 3: like one twenty ish would be my. Guess let's, see
- 1:42:01Speaker 3: maybe not even come over.
- 1:42:03Speaker 1: Here one twenty is not huge To alex one.
- 1:42:05Speaker 3: Ten one, Ten so, YEAH i mean it's THAT'S i, think,
- 1:42:08Speaker 3: LIKE i think that's pretty much the same that we
- 1:42:11Speaker 3: got him at last, week and if we were betting
- 1:42:13Speaker 3: him last week in THE Us. Open we should definitely
- 1:42:15Speaker 3: be betting him in a much smaller. Field uh, so,
- 1:42:17Speaker 3: YEAH i THINK i will probably add a decade at one.
- 1:42:20Speaker 2: Ten, yeah let's go love.
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- 1:43:35Speaker 1: Final so just check it. Out if you guys want
- 1:43:38Speaker 1: to there anything, Else, alex you, know anything for one
- 1:43:41Speaker 1: and done you want to talk. About, obviously this part
- 1:43:42Speaker 1: of the season is a bit tricky because kind of
- 1:43:45Speaker 1: everyone's in their own lane when it comes to where
- 1:43:47Speaker 1: they're going with. It but what do we got for
- 1:43:48Speaker 1: one and done this?
- 1:43:49Speaker 2: Week what do we have for one and done this?
- 1:43:51Speaker 2: Week let's, see let's see.
- 1:43:59Speaker 3: We Have Oberg, Burns Sea, Wu Can't Lay, CLARK, Jt
- 1:44:06Speaker 3: Kittiama Spawn hoveland Min wu that we're getting into kind
- 1:44:11Speaker 3: of a lower. Range anyone kind of stand out to.
- 1:44:14Speaker 3: YOU i.
- 1:44:14Speaker 2: DON'T i don't THINK i have very strong opinions on this.
- 1:44:17Speaker 1: Week is there any benefits of Using fleetwood now versus,
- 1:44:22Speaker 1: LIKE i don't think anyone who's Using fleetwood this? Week
- 1:44:24Speaker 1: we don't have. Him OH i thought you mentioned. HIM
- 1:44:26Speaker 1: i Heard oberg AND i THINK i Said fleetwood at
- 1:44:28Speaker 1: the same. Time, no who do you have as like
- 1:44:31Speaker 1: your top?
- 1:44:32Speaker 3: THREE i think a lot of our like a lot
- 1:44:36Speaker 3: of the guys that we have, saved aren't actually playing this.
- 1:44:39Speaker 3: Week SO i kind of lean let's just continue to
- 1:44:43Speaker 3: ride the hot, hand either With burns or wind them
- 1:44:46Speaker 3: and just hope that they continue their.
- 1:44:48Speaker 1: Form, YEAH i think is The burns bounce back a?
- 1:44:53Speaker 1: THING i, know it was like whatever he's you, know
- 1:44:55Speaker 1: he's not gonna get a. Chance he was out there
- 1:44:56Speaker 1: on the range for a minute and you'll warm it
- 1:44:58Speaker 1: up to go into the playoff hoping for, that But
- 1:45:00Speaker 1: clark just closed it down the. Stretch is there any
- 1:45:03Speaker 1: thought or a strategy, around, like you, KNOW i like
- 1:45:05Speaker 1: sticking with winners Like clark and how hot he's, been
- 1:45:07Speaker 1: but it's, like are we looking to just collect money?
- 1:45:09Speaker 1: Here is? It you, know winning again the amount that
- 1:45:12Speaker 1: he just got last? Week versus this week versus the other? Week,
- 1:45:14Speaker 1: like what any thoughts on that before we.
- 1:45:16Speaker 3: FINALIZE i think my my thought process here is more
- 1:45:19Speaker 3: along the lines THAT i think both have kind of
- 1:45:22Speaker 3: been punching above their weight of, lane and SO i
- 1:45:25Speaker 3: would like to take them now while they're still playing.
- 1:45:29Speaker 3: It dil's sorry at this, level before you know they
- 1:45:34Speaker 3: fall off a little bit down the.
- 1:45:35Speaker 2: Stretch, YEAH i.
- 1:45:37Speaker 1: WOULD i would Lean.
- 1:45:38Speaker 2: BURNS i think personally that's good with me for. Sure all,
- 1:45:44Speaker 2: right we'll go With.
- 1:45:44Speaker 1: Burns do you have your lane lined up for the.
- 1:45:46Speaker 1: Week we'll get to our leverage, lane and then you
- 1:45:48Speaker 1: can let the people also know where they can find.
- 1:45:50Speaker 1: You we'll tie it into the end. Here.
- 1:45:51Speaker 3: YEAH i want to start by saying very much appreciate
- 1:45:55Speaker 3: the people who kind of you, know have followed Along
- 1:45:59Speaker 3: i'll show and even who kind of challenged me on harmon.
- 1:46:02Speaker 3: EARLIER i think that leads to some really great. Discussion
- 1:46:05Speaker 3: i'm definitely someone who likes being challenged in that. Way
- 1:46:07Speaker 3: so by all, means like every single, week if you
- 1:46:10Speaker 3: disagree with SOMETHING i, say by all means pointing out
- 1:46:13Speaker 3: and AND i think it also helps that you know
- 1:46:16Speaker 3: you then hear more kind of rationale about why that
- 1:46:20Speaker 3: is so really appreciated that. DISCUSSION i wanted to mention
- 1:46:22Speaker 3: that before jumping into the leverage. Lane my leverage lane
- 1:46:26Speaker 3: is actually probably a little bit surprising given a lot
- 1:46:29Speaker 3: of the conversation on the show. Today BUT i think
- 1:46:33Speaker 3: the mid SEVEN k range is, vastly vastly being, overlooked
- 1:46:38Speaker 3: and there are a lot of really under owned guys
- 1:46:42Speaker 3: in this Range hideki for, Sure, Akshay Adam, Scott, Keith Mitchell.
- 1:46:47Speaker 3: Woodland even going back to, SPEAK i think part of
- 1:46:50Speaker 3: this is that this is a no cut event on
- 1:46:54Speaker 3: a what should be, pretty you, know birdie heavy golf
- 1:46:57Speaker 3: course this, week and these guys are really really good at.
- 1:47:02Speaker 3: Scoring Both mitchell And akhabatias specifically are near the very
- 1:47:06Speaker 3: very top in my birdie rate over expectation data which
- 1:47:10Speaker 3: is available in my. Discordant Nikolai hoygard is there as,
- 1:47:15Speaker 3: well and these guys just aren't getting a ton of
- 1:47:17Speaker 3: love right and is basically the only guy in this
- 1:47:20Speaker 3: range posting as well actually who looks like he's going
- 1:47:23Speaker 3: to get pretty considerable. Ownership and, interestingly like we mentioned
- 1:47:29Speaker 3: the fact that there's kind of this group in the
- 1:47:32Speaker 3: upper seven k's low eight k's and then this big
- 1:47:35Speaker 3: group in the upper six kse and low seven k's
- 1:47:38Speaker 3: Like girard at seven Flat calli at seven. Flat so
- 1:47:43Speaker 3: there is going to be plenty of love for the
- 1:47:46Speaker 3: SEVEN k range. Overall BUT i think this mid seven k,
- 1:47:49Speaker 3: range LIKE i, said is really actually going to be
- 1:47:51Speaker 3: overlooked and is going to be less owned than what
- 1:47:53Speaker 3: it seems like a lot of the chat here today
- 1:47:56Speaker 3: kind of. Expects AND i really like a lot of
- 1:47:59Speaker 3: these players in this, range and and a lot of
- 1:48:01Speaker 3: them do fit the mold of like guys That i've
- 1:48:03Speaker 3: been on a lot this, year and and some of
- 1:48:06Speaker 3: THEM i even went away, from Like.
- 1:48:08Speaker 2: AKSHA i didn't Use keith last, WEEK i.
- 1:48:11Speaker 1: Didn't Use stagala last.
- 1:48:12Speaker 3: Week and maybe this is a good opportunity to get
- 1:48:13Speaker 3: right back to my guys who have now kind of
- 1:48:17Speaker 3: turned things around a little bit as, well.
- 1:48:20Speaker 1: Very similar this. WEEK i, Mean i'm not gonna be
- 1:48:22Speaker 1: Using first, Off i'm not gonna be using six k
- 1:48:24Speaker 1: guys in my main and AGAIN i know not everybody,
- 1:48:27Speaker 1: is but just looking at, it you, know that's part
- 1:48:29Speaker 1: one THAT i can just tell you right, away which
- 1:48:32Speaker 1: likely leads to a second thought we'll see Where scott
- 1:48:34Speaker 1: he ends, up but probably, not but just noting. It
- 1:48:36Speaker 1: WHAT i like here IS i like the lower eights
- 1:48:40Speaker 1: and the upper, sevens and you're seeing guys Like, Hovland, Kiddy, Yama,
- 1:48:45Speaker 1: rye Spawn, rose you talked About Thigala speeth you mentioned,
- 1:48:50Speaker 1: earlier like that just looks completely overlooked. Me i'm not
- 1:48:53Speaker 1: Saying i'll just jam them all into a balance, build
- 1:48:56Speaker 1: BUT i do think that that's enough, leverage especially in
- 1:48:58Speaker 1: the two hundred dollars single entry with five fifth the kop,
- 1:49:00Speaker 1: top where it's LIKE i could land on four of
- 1:49:02Speaker 1: those guys or three of, them still get to somebody up,
- 1:49:05Speaker 1: top and then just make my way down low WHERE
- 1:49:08Speaker 1: i could even end up, below like IF i landed
- 1:49:11Speaker 1: on your Guy hideki or something like. That SO i
- 1:49:13Speaker 1: won't be getting into the SIX k, RANGE i won't
- 1:49:16Speaker 1: be Using scotty in that, build AND i will definitely
- 1:49:20Speaker 1: be leaning more on like The hoveland down To thigala
- 1:49:24Speaker 1: range and then pinpointing above and, below because that almost
- 1:49:27Speaker 1: puts me into different builds automatically or pushes me to
- 1:49:31Speaker 1: the balance versus having the two guys. Above that a
- 1:49:33Speaker 1: lot of people will be on or the two guys
- 1:49:35Speaker 1: below that a lot of people will be, on so
- 1:49:38Speaker 1: don't don't name all the, names BUT i mean that's
- 1:49:40Speaker 1: the majority of Where i'm going to land for my leverage.
- 1:49:42Speaker 1: Land i'm gonna focus on eighty five hundred to seventy
- 1:49:44Speaker 1: seven hundred to build out that more balanced BUILD.
- 1:49:48Speaker 3: I like.
- 1:49:49Speaker 1: It then what do you got going on this? Week
- 1:49:50Speaker 1: let the people know where they can find? YOU fu fun.
- 1:49:52Speaker 1: Show obviously a lot of stuff with the new golf,
- 1:49:54Speaker 1: changes THE Us open all of. That appreciate everybody that
- 1:49:57Speaker 1: stuck around and watched. Live we do put the timestamps
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- 1:50:01Speaker 1: there you make it this far on a playback and
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- 1:50:05Speaker 1: had has known that looked. Below we always have the
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- 1:50:09Speaker 1: All but where can people find you this?
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