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S6 E3: Depth Draft · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Fifteen de crazy.
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  Speaker 2: You can see you breath.
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  Speaker 3: Out in the.
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  Speaker 1: Lake effect, breaking tables like gear.
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  Speaker 2: Would treat here?
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  Speaker 1: Whees would you.
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  Speaker 3: Have to be?
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  Speaker 1: And to Ron Elvis in the lay pan show remembers
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  Speaker 1: that you need to know I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't you out here? Now?
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  Speaker 1: Your family? Where's would you have to be? Where would
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  Speaker 1: you have?
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  Speaker 3: Welcome into the Nicol City Crew. I am your host,
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  Speaker 3: Rob Crippen. Please like us on Facebook and follow us
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  Speaker 3: Legacy Entertainment here on Spreaker and stream Yard. We're so
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  Speaker 3: glad that you're joining us for some of your Buffalo
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  Speaker 3: Bills and NFL content again today, and as always, these
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  Speaker 3: are my Bill's thoughts set out loud. It's about so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: Lady three was sick? Shown me.
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  Speaker 1: Where's would you want to be?
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's get straight to it. Really excited for
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  Speaker 3: tonight's episode. It's funny because you know the draft is funny,
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  Speaker 3: and you know it could go a certain way that
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  Speaker 3: you don't think it's gonna go. And that's the reason
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  Speaker 3: that I named the episode the way that I did
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  Speaker 3: because I, for one, was taken aback by some of
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  Speaker 3: the picks to start the draft. And then I take
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  Speaker 3: time to kind of digest and shout out to my
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  Speaker 3: Twitter buddies out there in the different Twitter spaces that
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  Speaker 3: helped me out with getting things together, and I and
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  Speaker 3: I I finally came back to you know, okay, I
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  Speaker 3: came back to a reasonable reasonable level joining me tonight
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  Speaker 3: to help us dissect it. As always my co host
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  Speaker 3: writing Shotgun, Adam Dump Truck Repsick. Check them out on
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  Speaker 3: Instagram and Twitter at Adam Repsick. Are you p c
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  Speaker 3: z y K holla at the crew DT? What's good?
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  Speaker 1: What's good?
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  Speaker 3: Man? You see? You see the Sabers had you see
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  Speaker 3: we we game.
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  Speaker 4: We out here, we all here, we got we got
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  Speaker 4: the gohead locker back here, we got the go ahead
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  Speaker 4: locker back here in.
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  Speaker 1: The backstad were ready. What's up? Brob, what's up? Nickel City?
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  Speaker 4: We're back another Friday night. May first, we're into May.
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  Speaker 4: The weather still ship up here in Buffalo, Rob we see.
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  Speaker 3: I saw something said it was like the fourth wettest
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  Speaker 3: April of all time, and I was like, God, damn,
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  Speaker 3: y'all all need to come on down to Charlotte. Man,
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  Speaker 3: the weather is beautiful down here. But yeah, man, I'm excited. DT.
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  Speaker 3: The draft was interesting and it was funny because I
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  Speaker 3: kind of crashed out. I will raise my hand Nickel
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  Speaker 3: City Crew, Bill's moufe. I kind of crashed out after
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  Speaker 3: the first couple of picks. And what helped me was
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  Speaker 3: going into those Twitter spaces and shout out to my
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  Speaker 3: boy sharm Lee on Twitter and stuff like that and
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  Speaker 3: my boy Jeric, and they kind of helped me like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: let's bring this thing back down. Take it down a
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  Speaker 3: couple levels, take it down a couple of knocks. We've
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  Speaker 3: got a guest for you tonight, and I'm really happy
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  Speaker 3: that he decided to join us straight out of Wheeling,
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia. You can check him out on Twitter at
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  Speaker 3: Bill's fan for Life WV that stands for West Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: Joining me by my man Tom Ames. Tom, Welcome into
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  Speaker 3: the crew. We were happy to have you tonight. Man.
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  Speaker 3: I know that that Nickel City crew doesn't know you,
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  Speaker 3: but I know you very well now on those Twitter
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  Speaker 3: spaces and DT and I are happy to have you. Man.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. Welcome to the crew. Man, the
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  Speaker 3: crew Hey, Hey, what's up, Nickel City Crew? The first
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  Speaker 3: time I've watched many of your guys a show. I
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  Speaker 3: really enjoy it. We appreciate it. What can I say?
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  Speaker 3: It was an interesting draft, gentlemen, It was. It was
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  Speaker 3: an interesting draft. And like I said, DT and Tom,
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  Speaker 3: the reason I named the episode the way that I
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  Speaker 3: did was because it really it kind of encapsulates it
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  Speaker 3: was a depth draft. And I made some jokes is
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  Speaker 3: that I didn't get the memo DT. I didn't get
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  Speaker 3: the memo time that it was going to be a
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  Speaker 3: depth draft, and I think that that's kind of one
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  Speaker 3: of the things that led of my disappointment in the
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  Speaker 3: beginning of the draft with those first couple of picks. So,
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  Speaker 3: unless you've been under a rock, and I know that
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  Speaker 3: you have not, Bill's Mafia. The Bills started out, We
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  Speaker 3: talked about it last week. They traded down three times
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  Speaker 3: in the first round. We talked about that last week
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  Speaker 3: before the Sabers game, and then round two they kind
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  Speaker 3: of got things going. Pick thirty five TJ. Parker, outside
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  Speaker 3: linebacker out of Clemson and DT. It was interesting because
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  Speaker 3: when that pick happened, I had my eyes set on
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  Speaker 3: Kate McDonald. I thought it was fit. I thought it
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  Speaker 3: was a need, and I thought that the two kind
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  Speaker 3: of married themselves together because we need some help stop
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  Speaker 3: in the run. I was clearly wrong in respects to
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  Speaker 3: having those expectations. Tom, can you talk to us about TJ.
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  Speaker 3: Parker if you can, because for me, I was more
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  Speaker 3: confused by the fact that I thought that there was
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  Speaker 3: a starter sitting right there for us in respects to
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  Speaker 3: Kate McDonald. But clearly Brandon Bean and that crew did
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  Speaker 3: not see the same type of need in respects of
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  Speaker 3: defensive tackle because they went with TJ. Parker, who's uber talented,
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  Speaker 3: highly recruited, highly thought of a former five star recruit
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  Speaker 3: going out there to Clemson and had a good year
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  Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. But I just I didn't
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  Speaker 3: I didn't match up the need and fit at the time.
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  Speaker 2: This is where I go with you, like where the
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  Speaker 2: bills were needing, Like our needs were.
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  Speaker 3: To stop the rush.
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  Speaker 2: Stop the rush, that was our main need. His second
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  Speaker 2: need was we need to have somebody to sack a quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: We got to get our pass rush better.
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  Speaker 2: And I think with those two needs, I think us
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  Speaker 2: saw Kaden McDonald there, the guys in the Bills Mafia
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  Speaker 2: like herself were all DT. Me me too. I wasna say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna take Kaden McDonald. We're it casts pressure up
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  Speaker 2: the middle, We're gonna we're gonna get. We're gonna get
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  Speaker 2: from the bottom tier of like stopping the run. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think we're like in the thirties of stopping the run.
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  Speaker 3: Was bad. Last year, it were bad.
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  Speaker 2: We were bad, and we saw the logical pick. And
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  Speaker 2: what I've learned with the Bills is anytime us as
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  Speaker 2: fans think the most logical thing they're going to do,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: I thought, are sure in.
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  Speaker 2: The offseason we were going to bring in Leo Shanola's
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  Speaker 2: linebacker in Kansas City because he just fit the new
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  Speaker 2: scheme so well, and being didn't. I don't think being
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  Speaker 2: blinked denied him. But Kate McDonald was right there. And
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  Speaker 2: as I said to you before the show, Robb DT,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't believe they even interviewed Kate
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  Speaker 2: McDonald at the combine. I don't believe they met with him.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they felt he was undersized. I love Ohio State picks,
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  Speaker 2: I hate the school, I love their players.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm a Michigan family too. The T J.
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  Speaker 2: Parker pick may not be a like pick, but you
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  Speaker 2: know that's not what maybe a lot of us I'd say,
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  Speaker 2: you know a lot of us wanted there, but we
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  Speaker 2: did need a pass rusher.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't need a bull rusher.
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  Speaker 2: And as you said it, it's been a very it
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  Speaker 2: was a very deaf meaning draft for a lot of teams,
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  Speaker 2: not just us, because there wasn't a lot of blue chip,
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  Speaker 2: elite athletes out on this draft. Would you guys agree, true,
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  Speaker 2: we talked about well or allegedly.
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  Speaker 1: Right that we talked about that last week as well.
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  Speaker 4: It's like I was, like, k not getting down with
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  Speaker 4: all the it's not a first round type of draft, like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, how do we really know that?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 4: But I like that My issue. I'll preface this with
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  Speaker 4: I like the draft. I didn't like the first pick,
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  Speaker 4: as we're talking about right now. I didn't like that
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  Speaker 4: first pick in the fact of the Bills don't get
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  Speaker 4: the names right, you said, they don't go what we
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  Speaker 4: think they're gonna go, where we want them to go.
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  Speaker 1: They don't go. Kse conception, they don't go, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they don't go.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Kaden McDonald and I think all year it
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  Speaker 4: was just okay, we're going to the three four, so
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  Speaker 4: it's all we need a nose tackle. But like, there's
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  Speaker 4: so much difference, and Jim Leonard is now like kind
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  Speaker 4: of a new transition of this positionless type football and
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  Speaker 4: this defense is going to be all over the place
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  Speaker 4: and look at all different, which we'll get into our
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  Speaker 4: second pick, you know, in a little bit, but I
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  Speaker 4: don't want to get too into that yet. We'll get
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  Speaker 4: into him, but I think that's goes right along with it.
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  Speaker 4: So you got McDonald, like everybody the name pick and
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  Speaker 4: we never picked the name.
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  Speaker 1: But I also think this TJ.
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  Speaker 4: Parker pick is so boogie bash so screams that like
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  Speaker 4: one the Clemson Clemson obviously with Shaq Laws and the
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  Speaker 4: Clemson thing, but like just the like mid gass rusher, athletic,
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  Speaker 4: but like he's not really a speed rusher.
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  Speaker 1: He's more of a power rusher.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe he's he's very much like that, So maybe.
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  Speaker 4: He is going to get in and play a little
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  Speaker 4: more inside now with like without having that nose tackle
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  Speaker 4: we talked about, we have the horse and Dion Walker.
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  Speaker 4: He's not a nose tackle, but like what does this
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  Speaker 4: three four really look like?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: So I think it was just quickly three four you put.
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  Speaker 4: The nose guards, so everyone's boom, Ron McDonald and that's
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  Speaker 4: Ohio state name, and we want him but really correct,
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  Speaker 4: and I agree, and that would be I wanted the name,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I wanted the Vince Wilfork, right. I wanted
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  Speaker 4: the Sam Adams right. So but I can't be like
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  Speaker 4: the t J. Parker pick is just blah and such
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  Speaker 4: beam like and epinezza like, it's just like blah. But
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  Speaker 4: we didn't take the name, and I some day just
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  Speaker 4: want him to take the name and.
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  Speaker 1: Try it out.
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  Speaker 4: But I also understand this defense might not look like
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  Speaker 4: we all think.
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  Speaker 1: The three four is going to look like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it's interesting because you know, Tom, to me,
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  Speaker 3: I thought that, you know, t J. Parker is kind
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  Speaker 3: of a clone of of Bradley chubbn what they brought
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  Speaker 3: it in free agency. But in addition to that, I thought that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, this is a guy that was so highly
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  Speaker 3: touted that maybe it's a situation where they thought that
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  Speaker 3: the answers were in there. And that's where I gave
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: it a little shout out to my boy Shirl was
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  Speaker 3: that he was like, listen, they clearly think that they
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  Speaker 3: have the answer within house, and whether that's Finarian, Mathis
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  Speaker 3: or whoever the case may be, they think that they've
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  Speaker 3: got their answer. And I think that that's what should
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: give bills MOMFIU just a little bit of solace of
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  Speaker 3: the fact that they think that they have their answer
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  Speaker 3: already in house.
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  Speaker 2: I when it comes to TJ. Parker too, my understanding
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  Speaker 2: is he did very well at Clemson, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: from my our sources, rock speak it after speaking to Shirt,
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  Speaker 2: speaking to other people that watched Clemson.
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  Speaker 3: Clemson had a lot of.
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  Speaker 2: Inner coaching problems. I guess the coach chaff and a
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  Speaker 2: player we're just not There was no it wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: good locker room. The you know, the coaches were going
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  Speaker 2: at it with players and everything, and they're going at
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  Speaker 2: it and they just lost that locker room.
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  Speaker 3: So that could affect a lot of play. You know, PJ.
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  Speaker 3: Parker's play.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in on him. You know what. Let let's give
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  Speaker 2: the kid a shot. I like him. He's a bull rusher.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen his I've seen his highlights. He looks great.
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  Speaker 2: But as you said, wrong, and he's gonna be a
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  Speaker 2: rotational player for right now, is he gonna start? Hey,
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  Speaker 2: who knows, Like maybe we don't know what the future holds,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm tony right now as right now he's a
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  Speaker 2: deaf player. I'm excited about him. You know what's not
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: let's not let's not judge the suit before the chefs
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  Speaker 2: even served it, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: Like that, Yeah, yeah, And we don't need him to start,
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  Speaker 4: right We don't need him to start, like so that's fine.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, especially if there's high end Javon Solomon as
• 10:52
  Speaker 4: they've been kind of talking like they are like we
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  Speaker 4: don't you know, he's not starting, but you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean, like in the rotation having guys, we're so
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  Speaker 4: in Chubb Ibby see on the ends, and we'll see
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  Speaker 4: whatever happens through that middle of the line.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, we got higher draft picks. We still
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  Speaker 1: have TJ.
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  Speaker 4: Sanders, who we didn't see much of last year as
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  Speaker 4: a high draft pick to go in and play that line.
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  Speaker 4: We know Deane Walker can roll at Oliver should be
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  Speaker 4: fresh coming off you know a lot of miss games
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  Speaker 4: at the end of it, Like, there is guys in there, right,
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  Speaker 4: so we didn't need him to start and yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: mean looking on just now, like one of my guys,
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  Speaker 4: he really really respect him, really respects Ball went to
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  Speaker 4: Clemson and I didn't say anything. And he's not a
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  Speaker 4: Bills fan or anything like that, but like typical Southern
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  Speaker 4: like loves Ball through and through and texted me like
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: five minutes after the pick and just said certified Dog
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  Speaker 4: and like obviously that's his team and he's a Homer,
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  Speaker 4: but like there's guys on the Bills. I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 4: texting certified Dog to my other fans.
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  Speaker 3: Off right Twitter. I heard that this dude was like
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  Speaker 3: a was like a Miles Garrett, like you know, like archetype.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to be Miles Garrett that he.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't have the production, but like his kind of walks
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  Speaker 4: around the room, is the natural leader like Dabbo was
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  Speaker 4: all over that like on those interviews. So like love
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  Speaker 4: that the character. I mean even mcdermot's gone. That doesn't
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: mean we're just you know, you bring it in like
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  Speaker 4: nod Anti character guys, but it sounds like this dude
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  Speaker 4: is a leader and strong. It just it wasn't the
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  Speaker 4: name pick and that's why it lost some luster for me.
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  Speaker 3: And another thing is guys.
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  Speaker 2: We could have taken him at twenty six and no
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  Speaker 2: one would have batted an I San TJ. Parker went
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  Speaker 2: at twenty six, but we moved back three times. We
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: got him in a second round. So now Bean doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have to pay him first round money. Yeah, that's always
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  Speaker 2: playing into this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. That's absolutely true. Now with the second pick,
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  Speaker 3: I think that this is one that definitely raised even
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: more eyebrows. And for me, it took me a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of time. Again, I already admitted first two picks
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  Speaker 3: took me some time to kind of digest. Now it's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: It's pick sixty two. Davison Igbinosen they said, he said,
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: call him IGB. And I checked out some of the stuff.
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  Speaker 3: He's big into fashion and stuff like that. This boy
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  Speaker 3: is a press man corner. He is a dog your face.
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  Speaker 3: He is not He is not Max mad Max. He
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: is not Benford. And when it comes to the fact
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: of a zone defensive type of cornerback, this dude is
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  Speaker 3: all up in you, right at the line, ready to
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: go toe to toe. It was interesting because DT it
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  Speaker 3: took me some time to digest it. But the more
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  Speaker 3: that I did digest it, and I was on those
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  Speaker 3: Twitter spaces and listening to my guys talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: It was funny because they brought up something that I
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: thought of and then I was you know that I
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: didn't give much creans to that Denver game was a debacle.
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  Speaker 3: And when I say that, I mean that the people
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  Speaker 3: that we were putting out there was kind of reminiscent
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  Speaker 3: in when you and I were sitting in the stands
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  Speaker 3: at the raff and we were watching you know, fucking
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  Speaker 3: Balen Spector and AJ Klein, you know, out there on
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  Speaker 3: the field against Casey, and we're like, what the you know,
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  Speaker 3: like all these guys coming off the couch, what is
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  Speaker 3: going on? We had Dean Marlow in the back defensive backfield.
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  Speaker 3: We had you know, cam Lewis playing, Yeah, cam Lewis
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  Speaker 3: playing like real yeah, Donald Savage, Yeah, Savage was playing
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  Speaker 3: like they were playing big time minutes in a big,
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  Speaker 3: high leverage postseason game DT. I think that the more
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  Speaker 3: I thought about it, Brandon Bean did not want to
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  Speaker 3: get caught with his pants down again. He said that
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  Speaker 3: this was the number one need that he saw for
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  Speaker 3: his team coming into the draft. Who am I to
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  Speaker 3: tell Brandon Bean that he's wrong? In that respect. They
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  Speaker 3: want to make sure that if injuries crap up again
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  Speaker 3: that they've got different options, they've got better options. I
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  Speaker 3: really have a tough time fighting with it again after
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  Speaker 3: the initial shock war off because I didn't think the
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  Speaker 3: quarterback was a need. It made sense, DT, It does
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  Speaker 3: make sense because if if Leonard is gonna run a
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: more aggressive type of defense, a more man to man defense,
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  Speaker 3: less Stone like Sean McDermott was Ben don't break, Ben
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  Speaker 3: don't break. And it worked for its time and what
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  Speaker 3: the case may be. But when it came to those
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: crucial postseason situations, DT, we were always the ones looking stupid.
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  Speaker 3: In the end, I can't say bring change, and then
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  Speaker 3: when change comes, say well why are you changing? I
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: can't speak out of both sides in my mouth.
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  Speaker 4: You can never have enough corners as a saying Robin
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  Speaker 4: you look, you look. I mean that last year what
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: we had to do, and you know, really last year
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: with Trey White was such a roller coaster. Right in
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: the beginning of the year, it was like, oh, he
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: thinks we got to like we literally can't have him
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: on the field, and then it was like, okay, he's
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: kind of playing good.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: At the end of the year. Okay, maybe he's not. Okay,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: maybe he is. It's like, do we want to ride.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: That roller coaster, you know, on that third corner slot
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: or get somebody in there a little more established and
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: that we're coming in is the second round pick that
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: we don't have to pay for a long time. And
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: good defenses? Why are they good defenses because of matchups?
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: Now you got the two. You know, you got the
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: small speed guy in here, so you got the the
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: possession corner in Benford. Now you got the big bruiser
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: coming into to get up on those bigger receivers if
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: you need to. He's got the speed too. The Ohio
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: State guy, the name as we talked about, maybe we
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: missed at McDonald, but we got first team All Big Ten,
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: first Team All Big Ten. He's going up against Jeremiah Smith,
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: Carnal Tate every day in practice. Carnel Tate goes four.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: Jeremiah Smith's going one probably next year unless ours, Mandy.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: You know, like he's going against two top five picks
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: every day, against the top dogs in the in the
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: in the Big Ten now and he's and he it
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: doesn't look like he's shy about it. He's got some
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: swag about him. He's gonna get in your face. He
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: likes hitting you and he's big enough to hit. So
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: I like it. And uh, you know that name, that swagger,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: you can never have enough. And I think the matchup piece.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: Now we got the big guy. Like that's why I
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: wanted a big receiver. We'll get into that later, but
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: I wanted a big receiver because we got kind of
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: the small, you know, gadget guys. Okay, give me the
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: big Mike Evans type. And you know we didn't get him,
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: but now you got that on the defensive side of
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: the ball, and I think that matches up. You know,
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: it's a lot less likely to get burned with a
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: big dude when you got that dog behind you too.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: So I like to pick deep picked and uh, big
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: guy with a big name.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Tom. I liked IGB. When I watched his tape, I
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, this dude is a dog,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: like he is a dog on the bone. I I
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: I like it. If again, like I told DT Tom,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: if if, if I'm asking for change and then I
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: get changed, I can't say why the hell I get changing.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: This site seems like Jim Lennon's gonna run a more aggressive,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: depressive he's going to do take some more chances. We
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: might give him some bigger plays every now and then,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: but they're going to be opportunistic. They're going to try
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: to take advantage of it. It seems like that's the
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: way we're leaning.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say that Bean's hand was forced
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: with this pick, but they said when it got down
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: to that pick, the drop off in talent at defensive
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: back behind him noticing was huge. Okay, So and being
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Bean had to make a decision there, I'm okay with
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: it because you said the word. You guys both said
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: the word. We need to be more. Leonard is going
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: to be aggressive. This this Ben don't breaks up. It's
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: just not working, man. We have to be more aggressive
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: the quarterback, like with DTC. We need somebody that's gonna
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: hands on with a big wide receiver like a J.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Brown and letting know that he's come.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: He's come to play twice a year now.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: You have to do first.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm speaking to Ohio State fans. They said, the guys,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: the guy is physical, he likes to play hard against
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: his wide receivers. Yes, he does. Straw flags, But like
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: you said, d T Big ten first team, I mean,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: what else do you want?
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, with the best, the best of the best
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: right there, he's the best of the best. And yeah,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: I mean I like the flag things. He went from
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: fourteen flags to three. He had three flags last year.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: He had three flags last year for the.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I guess he had some He had
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: some handsy problems the year before and that go down
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: to three. Being said that that, he said that he
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: appreciated that he worked, but.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Then people gave the kyer Elam the kyer Elam ship.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: You know, he's wearing boxing gloves and practice and everyone's like,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: like they're like Tad Brown's tweeting that, like it's like,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: you know, pumping up the and they're like, dude, we don't.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Want to hear that.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Our worst corner, probably the worst corner in history that
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: we've ever had on our team.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: He's doing the same stuff as that guy. But I'm
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: not looking too far out.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I like what DT said to like the like all
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: defensive coaches said, you can't have enough defensive backs.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: You just can't.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: It's just it's a position of need and we saw.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Literally killed us.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: It's probably taking Super Bowl rings off our fingers.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Seriously, Like, yeah, last last year, for sure. I don't
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: know about the past, you know, because you.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Can the one the game. You know the game, Rob,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: we went to the game.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: We went to that Like that wasn't defensive bats as much.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: But I know what you mean. You know then that's
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: what That's kind of my point. You can't forecast injuries,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: but you can prepare for them. I think the brain
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: to Bean, yes again, didn't want to get you didn't
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: want to get caught with his pants down. Now as
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: we transition. You know, it's funny because round four was interesting.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: We're coming up on my favorite pick, and it's funny, DT.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: You kind of tipped your hands. So I can't wait
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: to have a little debate with you because I can't
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: stand when we always agree. So it sounds like we're
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: not going to agree on this one and I can't
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: wait to get to that. But first up, round four,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: pick one or two, Jude Bowery outfitsive tackle out of
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Boston College. It's interesting, pick DT another one again. That's
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: why I named the episode of the way that I
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: did depth Draft. I wasn't thinking about tackle. I was
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: ready to riot if they took a guard in the
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: first round or some the crazy that I was hearing
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: on the Twitter spaces and stuff like that pre draft DT.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: They say that this guy's got some depth, he's got
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: a position flexibility where he can slide down at to
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: the guard position if need be. And listen, Alec Anderson
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: has never done the job before. He's never been a starter,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: So you just want to have all hands on deck.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Youve got Alec Anderson, You've got now, You've got Jude Bower,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: You've got other guys as well. You brought in a
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: couple of free agents as well. They could possibly play
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: guard if you need them to. So in Austin Corbett.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: So listen, I'm in this situation where it's okay, like
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: if this is the direction. By that point in time
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: when they took Jude Browery, I knew that this was
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: a depth draft, and that's why I came up with
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: the concept where I was like, Okay, this is a
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: depth draft. I need to adjust, you know, my thinking. DT.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: They say he's nasty, they say he's ready to play.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: I saw his pre draft stuff where he was talking
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: about how excited he was after he was drafted, listen,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: if it's a depth draft and you want to make
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: sure that you're you're you're stocked up in the cupboards. Again,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: I have I have a hard time because of the
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: fact that they were a lot of mow chip guys
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: this year.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we can talk about not having guys on
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: defense and getting hurt and defensive depth, YadA, YadA, yaddy.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: But what's the most important thing. It's keeping the merchandise upright.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: And if you that's that's truly the most important thing.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Like at the end of the day, yes, we got
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: to build both sides of the ball, but if Josh
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Allen goes down, this is nothing. So you need to
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: keep seventeen upright at all times. And keeping an upright
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: is putting a good line in front of him. And
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: you know, there might have been some turbulence with Dawkins
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: at the end of the year. He's getting a little older.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: This guy kind of reminds me of a Dawkins that
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: type of style. He's not the biggest dude, but he
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: can you know, he can move around kind of nice.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: So he come in compete for a starting you know,
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: guard job right away and get that competition. Rolling to
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: keep seventeen upright, as again, a younger guy, you don't
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: have to pay later on I you got it that
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: late at first round. Okay, maybe I'll be critical, you know,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: even whatever, fourth round.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I'm fine with protecting the merchandise.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Tom, what'd you think, jud Bowery? I again, if it's
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: a depth draft, and I've got a hard time with
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: making sure that all your holes are short up. I
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: heard a lot about that Houston game, and you know, well,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Dion goes down and Spencer goes down, and you know,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: and and Houston's a little bit different because their defense
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: is so damn ferocious. But I don't. I don't have
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: any problem with death, man. I don't. And if this
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: guy can play guard and provide some position flexibility, excuse me,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: then hey, I gotta be all for it.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I believe that when we lost David Edwards the free
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: agency and Ryan Vandermark left as well, I didn't realize
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: how bad of the need we were for another tackle. Okay,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: and until that draft pick, honestly, I didn't know. I
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: thought our death was Okay, obviously I was wrong. I
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: didn't know much. I didn't much scouting on this guy, right,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I just I've just heard what you guys have said
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: on the show tonight, what I've heard in talk rooms
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: about him.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: I heard it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: He's an exceptional athlete. He can he can play, he
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: can play tackle, and he can play guard. I thought
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: that after all the off shielded offielditions that being had
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: already brought in, I thought we were okayd with deaf
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: because we all us three know who's going to start, right,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I all know who's going to start offensive line wise,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Alec Anderson has taken out other guard spot. It seems yes,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: and it just seems like it's his job to lose
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: in my.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Right right and the other four are The other four
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: are staples.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: My question mark was the whole death Now now that
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: they brought him, actually, now that I think about it,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I feel a lot more safe with this gentleman. You
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: know he's he uh From the research I did, I mean,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: who doesn't want another swing tackle one is in.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Somebody who's versatile. I'm pretty happy with the pick.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I was very surprised at where it was picked, but
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: after doing a little bit more research, I'm fine with it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, man, I am too. Now, Uh, listen, my
• 23:47
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• 24:34
  Speaker 3: you said something and you tipped your hand, and I
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: love we argue because we normally don't argue. My favorite
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: pick of the draft, fourth round one twenty five overall,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Skylar Bell out of Yukon a certified dog, a certified
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: go getter, catches everything. I love this pick. Now when
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: it comes to wide receiver, you know I'm on the
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: wide receiver train. DT. You already know that about me
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: and time you've been finding that out on those Twitter spaces.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I'm always about offense. I've always about putting up as
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: many points as we can, surround Josh with as many
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: weapons as we can. And I wasn't getting discouraged by
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: it because I know the Casey conception on. You know,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Cleveland took takes them and stuff like that. They jump
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: us and then denizel Boston. Then you heard the whole
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: rumblings about how the Jets found out that we were
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: going to look for Omar Cooper, so they jump ahead
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: of us to take him. Whatever. Whatever. Listen, this kid
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: goes and gets the ball. He plays bigger than he is,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: about six foot. He's like Stephan Digson's hype. But boy, DT,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: when you talk about production, I understand that he played
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: at Yukon. I know that it's not the highest level man.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Catching the football is still an art. It's still something
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: that you've got to go out there and do. DT.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: He caught everything. I know you talking about you want
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: another key on Coleman. I did not want another Keon Coleman.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know you tell me, Man, were you disappointed
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: with this pic? This is my favorite pick of the draft,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: my favorite pick man. I can't wait to see this
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: boy work. And in addition to the fact that he
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: can go inside and outside, so he's not I heard
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: a lot of Bills Mafia saying, well, he's just a
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Khalil clone. He is not a Kali clone. I haven't
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: seen hearing that Khalil can play outside. I haven't pay
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: multiple offensive coordinators. This dude can play outside and inside.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I love it. He's my favorite pick of the draft.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: All right, I'll be I'll be Devil's advocate here a
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: little bit tonight, you know, because if we can't get
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: critical about the draft, you know what what can we?
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: So, yes, what I talked about the matchup thing on
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: defense and now we got the big guy. We don't
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: have that on offense. We have a key On Coleman.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: That isn't that to be honest to me, like it's
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: it's not there. It would have been Josh. Josh finds
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: greatness in you if you're if you got it Josh
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: will find it in you. It's not hard to be
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: received for Josh Allen, that's not but you know what
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: I mean. Josh Allen makes pop will look better. And
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: if you have greatness, he'll find it in you. And
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: it doesn't necessarily have to be a good guy. That's
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: why I'm excited for DJ Moore this year because I
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: think he's gonna have a nice resurgence. But this guy,
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: it he was on the smaller side. You're watching the
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: highlights and it's it's shaking, and there's four kids in
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: the in the stands, and and he's running by.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: You know, he's running by like he tore up you be,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: he tore up the U B Bulls.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Rob, he's got he just running around bulls DB's all day.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: There's there's fourteen people up in the stadium and he's
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: But but I'm always gonna be I'm always gonna be
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: an optimist for this team and always gonna be an
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: optimist when it comes to the offensive side the ball.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I agree, weapons, weapons, weapons, they'll never hurt.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: But Rob, uh, Yeah, the the highlights immediately he's outside,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: he's really inside. In any of the highlights, he's in
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: the slot but he's catching deep drags in the slot
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: and or he's catching fade balls with three guys on
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: him in the corner of the end ZONE'M like, looking nice.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: So I think he's got some swagger too. We go
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: back to the swagger with the I G B. I
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: think this guy's swagged out too. He's in before games,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: he's getting hype and I mean, what what better to
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: hype you up than Bill's Mafia. So it's uh positive,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: real positive output of it. Like not a lot of
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: people are like he's a dud. Just it's if I
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: want to play Devil's advocate, it's it wasn't the big
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: guy might have envisioned and there's.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Four people in the stands when he's killing it.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: But please think his fault that he was bawling out
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: at Yukon and nobody cares a basketball school. Cool on man, Tom.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: D Let let's go ahead and dub it what it is.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: He is the pick that saved the twenty twenty six draft.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Played it out.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Yet everybody I talked and said, we got Skylar Bell.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: He's ready to play.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: My favorite thing about Skylar Bell was his measurables, his height,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: his weight, his speed, reminds me of a former Buffalo
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: bill receiver who's still my second favorite Buffalo. Teld me
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: by the name stuff On Diggs, and I like it.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I've seen his high late he is. I don't want
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: him to be a screen merchant. He will not be
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the offense. I really hope we're going to evolve this.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I think he can play at all three levels of
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: the field. He can play short, he can play medium,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: and he can be a deep threat as well. I
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: truly believe that. I think Brady brought him in and
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: we're gonna go downfield with him more. I think the
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: kid is going to be very versatile. I like everything
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: about him, Rob, I really do. Look, look if we're
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: gonna play that game Yukon. He played at Yukon. Diggs
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: played at Maryland.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I mean Giggs was a fifth rounder.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Davis was a fifth rounder. So I'm excited
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: he's a pick to save the draft forth.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I'm with it.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm saying like, I'm just not glazed, and I'm
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: like you, I mean, I don't know what I feel like.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Hey, come it, let's roll the ball out. Josh is
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: gonna make you great.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: If you're great and then we'll rock from there. Comment
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: on something else too, please please, we tried, tried, Okay,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I believe that we did try to trade up to
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: get Casey conception on I do. I do believe that.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I do not believe that the whatever jet that the
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Jets jumped us to get O market, I do not believe.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I think it's absolute BS.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I think if we wanted Omar Cooper, I think Bean
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: would have gotten me. I think being I think Bean
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: knew what he was, what he wanted to do. I
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: have no doubts that the Bills could have taken Omar
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Cooper if they wanted. And until Brandon Bean comes out
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: and says publicly I wanted Omar Cooper, I can't believe
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the Jets took him before me. I didn't think that
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: was gonna happen. I don't believe a word of that far.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: And we talked about it last week time. I know
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: you weren't here, but if you listen, then I mean
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: he had a plan. And and that's why d T
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: and I were very comfortable going in because we do
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: we do these on Friday, so it was right before
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: round two started. We were comfortable with it because we
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: want we wanted more picks. Wenderstood that Bean was not
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: going to take a pick at twenty six and then
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: sit to ninety one, like you know how many picks
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: that is in between. There's no way that he was
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: going to feel comfortable. So I was okay with the
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: execution of how he traded back three times chess. He did,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: he did, and it was important for him to grab
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: those picks because he obviously thought that he had holes
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: that he had to fill in respects to the depth.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: So I was cool with it.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: And I know you that's why exactly why I agree
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: the Jets stuff is BS, because he wouldn't.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Have let that.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he wouldn't let that happen.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So yeah, it was a quality bo He
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: got the bag you know for it.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: He definitely dealt.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he did. And Houston overpaid for sure to
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: go up to get a guard. So like we took
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: advantage of them. So it was all good there. And
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: like I said, he's my favorite pick of the draft.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Time's funny, but he did save the draft for me
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: for sure. But you know, like, hey, I just think
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: that I don't I don't have to necessarily put the
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: steph on Diggs's weight on him. But his tape, his
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: tape does look similar in respects to how he attacks
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: the ball, and he's ferocious after the catch. I like
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: the fact that he he ten ues the place. It's
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: not like he's just catching the ball and falling down.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be interested to see him. Yeah, man,
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: I'm interested to see him. And like DT said, seventeen
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: will find if you could play seventeen. All I mean,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Cole Beasley and John Brown, all those guys had career
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: years when they were with seventeen. So I'm gonna trust
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: in that for sure.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: And he's gonna elevate. He's gonna elevate everybody's game.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: That's just yeah that way, Yeah, man, I like it. Now.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: We were back to back in round four one twenty
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: five with Skyler Bell and then one twenty six was
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Caleb Elam Orr Elam's or listen lineback around at TCU.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: They say that this boy is fast, DT that he's
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: like a little heat sick and missile. Kind of reminds
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: me of what I heard on the post draft scouting
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: reports about Dorian Wims. To be honest, sometimes Dorian was
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: a missile, but he'd be out of place, and they
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: say the same thing about Elam's or that you know,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: he's sometimes out of place, but he does everything one
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: hundred percent. And I like that because what you can
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: do as a coach, and you know about this, is
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: that you can co I can coach out scheme stuff.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I can't coach your effort. I can't coach your your
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: speed and some of the attributes that you have. If
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: you're in the wrong gap, I can coach you on that,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: But but going one hundred miles an hour, I can't
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: coach you on that. I can't bring that fire to you.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: I like the fact that the kids got fire. He's
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: a little light in the ass, so you know, maybe
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: put on some pounds of this, you know, gum to buffalo,
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: eat some wings, eat some beef on wes, put on
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: some pounds to help you out. But I like it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: He's fast man four four seven speed is fast four
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: linebacker and you know he was, you know, all Big
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: twelve last year. So the kid makes tackles. He's not
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: always in the right spot, but he plays one hundred
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: miles an hour. I do like that.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Hey, I'll put a hell of a nutrition playing together
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: to both you out, baby, you are walking a training camp,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: a little little swall.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: You just hang out, hanging out.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: With DT for come to the Bachelor, Pat, I love it.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: On all the spots now.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I say last year, last year a
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: linebacker unacceptable. Last year linebacker top to bottom, I'd say
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: on aftible wasn't good, wasn't great, wasn't okay, wasn't.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Could have been better. I thought it was unacceptable.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Our best players couldn't get on the field. Our best
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: linebacker was a fifty year old Shack Thompson.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Like I mean, we no offense, no offense got hurt too,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: and that didn't help it.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: But availability and being on the field. And Dorian Williams
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: had a good first year and then he comes back
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: and he's kind of silent last year, and like so
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: we need some competition, We need some depth there. We
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: need somebody to come in and this is a fight
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: for a starting spot. Matt Mallonald Block, I'm not gonna
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: be back, obviously. We need somebody to, you know, fight
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: for a starting spot. And uh if if it comes here,
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: and he kind of fits the mold of those guy
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Dorian Williams, he's a little lighter like Terrell Bernard. We're
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: a little skinny in the linebacker frame, but you know
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: somebody's got to start there. So I like it. He's
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: not just gonna This isn't as much of a depth piece.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: I thinks, IGB. I think this is a compete for
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: a starting spot.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: You see it the same way Tom, You see you
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: think that this guy could come in and maybe push
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Dorian or put you know, put it was not probably Bard,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: but push Williams for time.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: See this is how with Caleb with Caleb Moore's his name. Yeah,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: I really like I also really like to pick.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: I really.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I do think he's gonna absolutely absolutely compete for a
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: starting job. I really do right off the bat, because
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you what, this kid. The only thing that
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: worries about worries me about him is he's a little raw.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: He's going to need coach stuff. He's gonna need a
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: very good linebackers coach playing in the NFL. This is
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: how I feel about him. Back to what DT said,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: our linebacking core last year is a mess.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: And I tell you what.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: For Shaq Thompson to come out to be the best linebacker,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: and that's that's that's so, and.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: I like Shack. I'm glad, no, no, no, I know,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: but yeah, but that's behind him.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the bar right there. The thing about Caleb
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Or is that his parents, both his arents, we're collegiate
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: track athletes, so you know he comes from that speed. Okay, absolutely,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: he's so fast. He comes from good stock. I really
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: do like to pick. I just think another thing with
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: our life backing crew, Rob Dt is it.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I don't think we're done.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: I think we're going to add somebody.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I think we're going to add another free agent. Okay,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I highly doubt it's going to be Milana because the
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: numbers don't work out. We're already paying him not to
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: play for us, so I don't see him Shack. Okay,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: i'd bring Shack back. We really got to get that
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: linebacker room together. And I hope this kid, like you said, Rob,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: competes for the starting job. Dorian Williams scares me when
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: he drops in the coverage. To tell you about where,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I really like william But when he drops in the coverage,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: it looks I'm like that Ben Affleck.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Mean, I love it, I love it.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he can, he can.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Conjure up some definitely some anxiety. It's just like he's
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: and they said this kick can They say this kid
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: can track, and that he can run with he can
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: run with tight ends. They say he could run with
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: backs out of the backfield. So I mean, clearly he's fast.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: So you know, like I said, it's the it's I
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: think that that's the biggest thing that you said that's
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: gonna that's gonna hit is that he just needs coaching,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: because like I said, you can't coach be but if
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: you're in the wrong gap stuff like that, hopefully you
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: can work with that through film session stuff like that
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: and kind of you know, driving into this guy where
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: to be this is. But then there's another thing though,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: dt is that again back to Jim Leonard, I think
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be a lot less complicated, okay, And I'm
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: not here to shit on mcdert, you know what I mean,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Like I'm it's over. He's not the coach anymore, so
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not gonna do a parade to or
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: anything like that. But one of the things that was
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: always a sticking point with him was that his defense
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: were complicated and that there was a lot of checks
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: and you're looking around. How many times do we see
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: the guys, you know, linebackers looking and they're communicating stuff
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: like that, This Jim Leonard seems like seaball, go get baull. Seaball,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: go get ball. Simplify, simplifying, excuse me. Everybody's job, everybody's
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: job is is their job, and everybody's got one or
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: two things that they're supposed to do. From the ends,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: for the linebackers, from the guys in the middle sea ball,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: go get ball. There's only a couple jobs. And I
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: think that that could help, especially with a young kid
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: like Caleb, is that you don't have to think about
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: a lot of processing. There's not a lot of checks,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: not a lot of things that you got to check with.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Make sure that you're just in your gap, doing your
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: right job, and go get that damn ball. And I
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: think that that could help with a young defense DT. Yeah.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Attack, attack, attack, that's the word. That's the word they
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: keep using, and you know, you.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Fly, fly to it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I maybe that's why Dorian Williams wasn't excelling, you know,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: because because it was too complicated and he was too
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: fast to get you know, to get back to back.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: He's kind of just like glitched out. But yeah, sorry,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: go ahead, Tom.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I just think we got We have Joe Andrews, and
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: we have Kante Jenkins, and we have Jimmy Charlo. That's
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: the rest of our death right there.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Guys.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: You know a lot of the and there's three guys
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: with special team ball players. In my opinion, they are.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: You guys were getting caught on hard knocks people exactly.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Like you guys. Ever, do you see them playing like no?
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: I would be I would be upset if Buffalo Joe
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: had to play, you know, like for real.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: For real, this Kale pick, this pick had to go down.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: It had Now what really upsets me is when back
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: to the first pick is that we passed on Jacob
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Rodriguez and he goes to the Dolphins. Yeah, he goes
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: there and has like a Hall of Fame career. I'll
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: just throw up.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: But listen, don't worry about the Miami right now. They
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: got a whole year that they're taking off because they
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: want a quarterback. So we don't have at least we
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: don't have to think about him in twenty twenty six.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: So don't let that make your fret too much. Round five,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Pick one sixty seven. Another pick. This is probably my
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: second favorite pick fellas Jalen Jalen Kilgore man is a
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Swiss Army knife in the defensive backfield. And again it's
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: just on brand for what they keep talking about and
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: telling us that Jim Leonard wants. They say that Jim
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Leonard wants guys that are positionless, he wants guys that
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: can fit, and that he would I think one of
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: the quotes is that he doesn't want guys that fit
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: in the box. This is the definition of a guy
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: that does not fit in the box. Jalen Kilgore DT.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I know him a little bit because of the fact
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: being down here in South Carolina, close to South Carolina
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Football in Charlotte, so I see a lot of the
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Gagcock's tape and stuff like that. And I mean even
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: when you were here, you saw we went into that
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: random barn was all Cape Cox fan. Listen, this kid
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: can play, man, This this kid has got He's got
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: potential now, whether that be at the nickel, whether that
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: be for safety down the road, whether you know, because
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: you know Geno Stone's on a one year deal. CJ.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Gardner Johnson's on a one year deal. So I don't
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know the long term position for this guy,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: but I just see a Swiss Army Knight, somebody that
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: can come in and play wherever Leonard wants him to
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: DT And I'm excited about him because he plays with fire,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: he plays with energy, he can hit you, and it
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: just seems like it's a situation where I mean, if
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: this guy wants positionless players, he kind of fits that box.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Second to Josh Allen being drafted, you know, Michael Hyde,
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Jordan Poyer, I would say, are the best roster moves, okay,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: other other than other than Josh Allen being drafted, those
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: those two are the best roster moves, yes, second to that.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: So going into the safety with those with those guys
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: you just mentioned on one year deals, to bring that
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: depth in with Cole Bishop, who was you know, still
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: young in his career and try to build that safety
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: tandem back up. And this is the way to do it.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: I you know this late in the in the draft.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: I'm not, I don't know, but I will tell you
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: this is kind of corny. But in NCAA Football twenty
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: six last year, I uh, dumb truck was a middle
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: linebacker for the South Carolina Game Cocks nice and.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Jalen Kilgore was adult. This dude had like two picks.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: The game was like always in the mix. I'm in
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: like the you know, because it's like first person.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: You're up on you know, I'm sitting right up to
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: the seventy five inch you're in the batch pad and
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: I'm like first person making tackles and Jalen Kilgore is everywhere.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: So that's that's dumb. We might catch some flag from
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: that from in the chat for being corny, but hey,
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: dog football, and I think, you know, we got to
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: bring that safety tandem back and and this this is
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: the way to do that.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: So I like it.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Let's go kill Gore.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: What do you think, Tom? Besides uh college football parallels.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I want to do back in the draft. I want
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: to draft Dump Truck as a linebacker by the Buffalo Bills.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Run out of that high Mark Week one.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: I uh uh I is somebody that I Mark drafted
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: to the Bills. Pretty much every time I did a
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Mark draft, I was listening to one and Steve Casker
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: and Chris Brown has said everybody, this is the general
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: consensus that everybody in the Bill's Mafia was unbelievably happy
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: about this pick. I was just going to plug play.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: He could be a Day one starter. I have no
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: doubt that if there's a shot he can get on
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: the field, they're gonna give it to him. And this
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: kid is going to be good. I really feel it.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: I just you know he and even in he doesn't
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: but he could play.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I mean he kind of reminds me of how he
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: plays a little bit of like Rawandez Barber, but they
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: play different positions, so it's kind of hard. But he
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: he he is going to be It's going to be
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: a dog man.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And that's the one thing is that it doesn't
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: have to necessarily be biggest impact in twenty six because
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: they played football past this year. And I think that
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: this is a guy that maybe maybe things don't work
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: out with Geno Stone or something like that, and you
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: don't you're not resigning him, maybe you're keeping CJ or
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: maybe he's gone. What if the case may be, if
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Cole Bishall can continue continue his ascent and continue to
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: stay on that trajectory where he played very well last
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: year and he's only uprise, then this this Kiny might
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: be a guy that can just plug and play and
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: he could be his you know, safety. Tannem for it
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: for years to come, So I'm excited about it. Round
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: five point eight one, Zame Durant, Uh Bean finally gets
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: a defensive tackle. You know, he's six one two ninety's
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: not the biggest, you know, hugest. He's not Ted Washington.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: What if the case may be, but this guy Penn
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: State played well, you know, was productive there, and it's
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: a situation where he can line up. He could be
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: a three tech. You know, he can line up and
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: be that guy. The one thing that I kept saying
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: was don't make Dion Walker play nose tackle, because then
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: you are taking away everything that makes Dion Walker special
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: because they I call him the polar Bear because he's
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: got those nimble feet. He's a mountain of a man.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: But he's not Ted Washington. We talked about that DT
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: last week. Zame Durant comes in for depth to round
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: out this draft towards the back end, and I don't
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: have any problems with it. Again, we've already talked about
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Kate McDonalds, so we're not going to rehash that. But
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: you bring in a death piece defensive tackle with high
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: pedigree coming from Penn State. So I've got no problem
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: with the DT.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: I've been watching Penn State d lineman since Dakwan Jones
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: thirteen years ago. You know, they they're nice then, and
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: they're big. You know, I went, I went to a
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: Penn State game this year and I watched Saint Durant.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: I in my mock drafts, I was mock drafting Zan
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: Durant earlier than this. I was mock drafting him way
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: earlier than this. So yeah, like in the this was
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: one eighty one, Yeah, fifth round, Yeah, one eighty one.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: I was in like probably one forties with him in
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: my mox. So you know, definitely a name like I
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: just I'm kind of biased towards Penn.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: State, and and he's solid in there.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: He's solid in there and in all directions, big in
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: the Big Ten again, playing up against the biggest boys
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: each week. I like this pick a lot. I like
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: this pick a lot. It was a name that I
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: didn't even expect that. I was just like, oh, it's
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: a Penn State like weird thing that I like Penn State,
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: and you know, this is defensive linement.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: And then we drafted him. I was like, finally we
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: got a name that I.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Like, you know, familiar with.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm cool. That's that's it was cool.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: I like that time before we wrap the draft, what
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: do you think is saying? I thought that it was perfect?
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Writ and back into the draft, address it and get
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: kind of bills Maffia off your back if you're being
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: you know, I got my damn defensive tackle.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Y'all wanted I this guy's this is the one I
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: didn't understand.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't get.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: So I felt I felt that we already had. I
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: thought I thought our defensive front room was already crowded.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: We got Dwayne Carter coming back, Landon Jackson coming back,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Michael Waite. We got got guys that we're gonna kick inside.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I think Zane Duran's a little undersized. I saw some
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: of his I saw some of the highlight tape, and
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I did like, I just don't get it. I wanted to.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I want him to be my proven me wrong pick,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Like I want him to show me why we took him. Okay,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I don't see it.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: It's round five too, so you know it's also round five,
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: But I get it.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Hey, I don't want to. I don't want him to fail.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I just I just didn't understand the pick. I thought
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: I thought there was another defensive lineman, that fitter scheme
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: better that we could have brought in.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair. I mean it's round five. You know,
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: when you get past round four, round five, six seven,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: you are now you're literally at the bar drinking a
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: pint and you are throwing darts at the board. You're
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: trying to hit that bulls eye saw. You know, you
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: see what you can do. And that's really what being
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: was trying to do, is accumulate picks. I did not
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: expect the DT and I talked about it when we
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: had nine picks last week. We were like, no way
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: nine players make the team. And then he actually comes
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: out with ten picks. So interesting how that works. As
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: we wrap up the draft tonight, Fellas, before we get
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: to the tailweit report because I know that Sabers hockey
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: is on all of BILS Mafia's mind. One Buffalo DT.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: We talked about that last week. One Buffalo round seven
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: to twenty Toriano Pride, junior cornerback out of Missouri, round
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: seven as well. Two thirty nine Tommy Doman, who if
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: you draft a punter, then that means that listen, Mitch Westowski,
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: whatever you might want to not get get in an apartment,
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: get it, get a short least because if they drafted
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: a damn thunder your days maybe number YEAHD round out
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: the draft two forty one. Round seven Armage reed abrams
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: of guard out of Texas A and m dt as
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I kind of just alluded to I kind of spoiled
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: and buried the lead. I don't have nothing crazy out
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: to hear. Round seven you're you're throwing darts. But Tommy Doman,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: if you draft a punter or a kicker, that means
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: that he's probably gonna make the team because you just don't.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: You don't waste draft picks on on that positions. You
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: just don't.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Sec I he forced me to watch highlights of a punter,
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: so he better just makes the team.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Dude, Yeah, whatever.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: He's gonna make Tommy, Tommy Domans the Tommy Dooman's dad
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: played middle linebacker for for maybe Okay, I like that,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: and he was also he did participated in a lot
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: of kicking camps that were in Buffalo.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I heard.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: I heard that he kicks too, though, right. I heard
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: that he can, right, so maybe maybe he can even
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: do the kickoff duties. So you know that like with
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: those with the new kickoff rules, if if Bass is
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: still slow to get back so no, no, no, no no,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: they they already paid Bass. Bass has got to be
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: the kicker, I guess now, as long as he's healthy. Listen,
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it. Tonight, before we wrap up, listen,
• 48:54
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  Speaker 3: they're run out of Savers gear. They're gonna they'll restock.
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  Speaker 3: They're gonna find a way to get some more black
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  Speaker 3: and reds for y'all. And I know that you guys
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: are gobbling up, so please check them out DT before
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: we close up tonight. I know that you're a first
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: time on the show. Tom, take us through your weekend.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: What you're getting ready to do? You're out there in Wheeling,
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: West Virginia. I was telling DT Free Show. I drive
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: up past at least past it. I don't know if
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: I'm going in Wheeling, but at least I see it.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: I see it on the sign when I'm coming from
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Charlotte to Buffalo as I come up nineteen through Beckley,
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: So I've seen Wheeling. I know where you're at. I
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: know where you are.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Well, Tomorrow's can consist of me going home cauld Get.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: I work a fireman, work twenty four hour shifts. I
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: work eight am to eight a m. Thank you for
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: at home. I'll hang out with my daughter, my wife
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: for a little bit in eleven o'clock, me and a
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: bunch of Steeler fans.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: That I hang out with.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: You're a steel the country.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, We're going to a restaurant called DJ's Ribs in
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: weird And, West Virginia, and their ribs are phenomenal.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: We really enjoy and talk a.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Little bit about the draft and just uh, you know, just.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: Hang out with the fellas.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: Come home and yeah, spend the night with my family.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: And I got to come back to the firehouse on Sunday.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: Guys sounds good Man Ribs Weekend. I don't there's nothing,
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: nothing wrong that you said there, DT. I know that
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: the city is a little bit anxious, and I know
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: that you and I talked about it pre showing a
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: little bit, and you are definitely you're better than me.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: It's not it's it's I think it's the anxiety of
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: being up three to one and and then not closing
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: the deal. What a epic opportunity it was on Game
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: five to just close it out at the at Key
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Bank in front of the fans. And then I watched
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: the next night Philly closes out and the dude fucking
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: chucks his stick in the crowd after he scores the game,
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: would and go plts the series. I was just like,
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: I couldn't. There was just I couldn't do anything but
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: be jealous. I was just jealous of just the whole atmosphere,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: for the for the Sabers fans. DT, you are way
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: more even keel. You are way calmer than I am.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Talk to me about tonight. What are your plans? Because
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: I literally got a text message right now during the
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: show and my middle kingmate was supposed to be with me.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: Nights can I sleep over. He's at his hockey buddy's
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: house and one of his best friends, Jacob, said, He's like,
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: can I sleep over? Jacobs, I promise you were gonna
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: watch the game this I'm like, son, enjoy it. It's fine.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: I would rather be by myself anyway, because I'm I'm a.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Little bit nervous up to els, up to els ra.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be around anybody right now. I'm
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: gonna chill. I'm gonna chill. What you got. You are
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: a way better space than I many.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: You know the anxiety I get in a Bills season
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: and what I go through in the playoffs. I can't
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: do more than once a year for help, so I
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: can't get that crazed over. I love the Sabers. I hope,
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: I hope they win tonight, but you know, hey, if
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: we don't win tonight, we still got another chance, and
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: it probability says we we win before they win in
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: the next two games because of the probabilities, So I'm
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: rolling with probability.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I'm chilling. We're gonna win it tonight. Anyway.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: We're sweeping them in Boston. We're getting all three in Boston.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: The boys are ready.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Taje.
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: Thompson's gonna light the lamp. He hasn't since game one.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: He's ready to go. I was down about in the
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: in the scene Tuesday. Good atmosphere. The Sabers fans are
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: ready to rock Queen City. Ventuance does have new stuff.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: They've made their own sweatshirts. They're real cool, they say
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: Buffalo Hockey QCB and the NHL logo.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Check out their website. Real nice and I think they
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: finished it. Tonight's Friday Night.
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: The one hundred fifty second running of the Kentucky Derby
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: is this weekend, and tonight is the Kentucky Oach, which
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: is the female version of the Kentucky Derby. And there's
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: some decent horses in so, yeah, you don't have a
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: little fun, get a few bucks out there and see
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: what you can do. The derby is always a great one.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: Twenty four horses and we'll see what happens. So that's
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: the weekend. We've got a nice little block party up
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: here in North Buffalo. Yeah, nice little block party in
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: North Buffalo. Everyone julips, everyone's gonna be dressed up, We're
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: gonna be looking good. Got our Nicholas City, faithful kind
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: page coming up, and we're gonna we're gonna have a
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: good time.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: So, univers, are you gonna the occasion?
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Heavy?
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Heavy?
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: I have the hat, the pastels rob you know, and
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: it's it's fashions in d T and we'll see hopefully
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: a horse horse doses. But I like julips and I
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: like wearing pastels and pretending I'm fancy and uh, and
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: that's what we're gonna be doing. So let's go Sabers,
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: Sabers and six easy dub tonight. We're chilling going into tomorrow.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: Get on your horses. I'll give a pick. I'll give
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: it my horse to the.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Here we go. We're going to go ahead.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: Twelve Chief Wallaby, twelve Chief Wallaby. Uh, you're here here first.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: If he wins, I deserve all the accolades.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: If he loses, that's on you.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: None of the love it. That's exactly I love it.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Listen, man's currently tend to one one.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, maybe I will, Maybe I will, Maybe DT doesn't
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: know any time. Maybe I'll do it on behalf of
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: the show and I'll post something about that. Listen. I
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: really appreciate your time and joining us. Tonight, all the
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: way from Wheeling, West Virginia. Man, really listen. I enjoy
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: the Twitter spaces so much just because it lets me
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: get my takes out and stuff like that. And they
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: love to box me and beat me up and stuff
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: like that. But I really have appreciate it. I appreciated
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: It's I don't know why.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: It's all good man, DT. If you didn't know, Guy Rob,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: I host the space on on the X. It's called
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Mafia and Bill's Mafia. If you want to sop in
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: and and talk. Hey, guys, everybody's welcome, and everybody's welcome.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I love to hear different takes. Even if I don't
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: agree with you, still listen.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's really that's really what what drew me
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: to you, Tom, is that you know a lot of
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: people come on there and then they like to whatever
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: they think they want everybody else to think, and I don't.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: I don't want everybody to think the same. And it's
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: okay if we have banter and we go back and
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: forth we disagree. So I really appreciate it. You have
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: been a great host on those spaces. So I will
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: continue to partake because I just I like I like
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: to argue. I don't mind argue, and I argue for
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: a living like it's all good. So I enjoy it man.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: And and like I said, you're always a gracious host,
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: So we really appreciate you tonight. Check him out on
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Twitter again. He does host a lot of those Bills
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Mafia spaces. He is at Bills Fan for Life w V.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: That stands for West Virginia coming at us from West
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: excuse me from deal Tally Country. We really appreciate your tom.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: I'm enjoying us tonight, man, so I will high let
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: you brother for sure DT. I mean out there, man, listen.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: I okay, fine, I understood what you're saying. That you
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: can't the mental capacity, the heart can't take it with Sabers,
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: with Savers equally the Bills. I get that, But listen,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: you're up three to one. You're supposed to win the
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: fucking series. So Sabers, can you just win it and
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: close it out tonight because I don't want to wait
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: till Sunday. Then it's game seven. Then it's oh man,
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: you were up three to one and all of a sudden,
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: you know, then the pressure is literally back on you.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: So no, this give me no pressure. Let's end this
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: time like that.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: You know we don't want tonight, please, we don't want
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Game seven. We don't want Game seven.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: It's over tonight. I'm confident it's over tonight. That's why
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: I'm not worried. I'm confident it's over tonight. That's why
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: I'm not worried. Let's go birds and six. Enjoy your weekend.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: I love it, man, listen out there, spread love not hate.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: These were my bills, thoughts set out loud. Enjoy the weekend.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: Enjoy uh sabers game tonight coming up in just under
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: a half hour. Enjoy it as well. I think it's
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: seven thirty on ESPN. And then, as DT said, you
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: got the conduckty derby tomorrow, so you can have some
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: fun and be safe out there. Drink some jewlip's dressing
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: some pastels, and enjoy yourselves with your friends, and waste
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: money on horses that you have no idea anything about,
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: because none of us know anything about horses at Also,
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: I love DT gave us a pick. I'm definitely gonna
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: put five bucks on what's the name of the horse? Well?
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Uh well, Chief Wallaby.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: Tweet Chief Wallaby. All right, we'll roll with tef Wallery.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna roll with with DT. Listen, have a fun weekend.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: For sure, Go Savers, Go bills for sure, hit n't
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: want to go Bills, Hit don't want to go Savers.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: DT this time to wrap up Man.
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: Go Bills, Go Sabers, Sabers and six oh year.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.