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Football at Four: Updating Several Eagles Injury Situations and More · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Football at Four is powered by the Inside the Birds podcast,
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  Speaker 1: and it is brought to you by the Fanatic Sportsbook
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  Speaker 1: at Ocean Casino Resort in Atlantic City. And, of course,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Mosher is here on a– actually, not of course.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't usually do the Friday. Andrew was in the
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  Speaker 1: locker room today with Nick Sirianni speaking. He went a
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  Speaker 1: little long today. So Mosher is pinch-hitting for Andrew, who
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  Speaker 1: was pinch-hitting for Adam, who is now here. So Jeff Mosher,
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  Speaker 1: the pinch-hitter extraordinaire. Rusty Staub over here stepping in. But
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  Speaker 1: this is an interesting Friday. Yesterday, that news, it kind
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  Speaker 1: of rocked everybody. What do we kind of feel and
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  Speaker 1: now know? Nick didn't want to talk about it, but
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  Speaker 1: it kind of feels like a very interesting moment for
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  Speaker 1: this Eagles organization with where this season is and now
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  Speaker 1: this news.
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  Speaker 2: For sure it is, Mike. And I think the biggest
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  Speaker 2: thing to take away is that.
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  Speaker 3: Although a superficial– clot is not maybe as severe or
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  Speaker 3: intense or emergent, I guess, emergency as, say, a pulmonary embolism,
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  Speaker 3: which would be like a normal blood clot that you
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  Speaker 3: might get anywhere, especially bad in your lungs, right?
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  Speaker 2: The fact that it moved.
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  Speaker 3: See, the Eagles said it moved at some point after,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when they gave him imaging after the game.
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  Speaker 3: So the game they thought was good because it allowed
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  Speaker 3: him to be mobile.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently it's better if you're moving around. for the clot.
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  Speaker 3: It's bad if you're sitting in an environment where you're
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  Speaker 3: not moving at all. And of course, they had to
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  Speaker 3: fly back on a long flight. So at some point,
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  Speaker 3: the clot moved. And that's what makes it severe. And
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  Speaker 3: that's all the information we have. And they don't have
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  Speaker 3: to share any other information with us other than that.
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  Speaker 3: But that to me makes this a very I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to say perilous situation, but a sticky situation for
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  Speaker 3: both Jalen Hurts and the team. We'll just have to
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  Speaker 3: see going forward what the treatment is going to require
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  Speaker 3: because if it's blood thinners, then he could be out
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  Speaker 3: for quite a long time.
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  Speaker 1: We had Dr. David Chow on yesterday. He did say
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  Speaker 1: he liked the timeline that the Eagles, he feels like
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  Speaker 1: because of the way that they explained it, the timeline,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like they mishandled this in any way.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, people are like, how the heck did the
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  Speaker 1: guy play? I asked him about flying, and he said, listen,
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  Speaker 1: he's not flying next to grandma, needing to go to
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  Speaker 1: the bathroom, that that should have been okay. But you're right,
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  Speaker 1: if you go in the blood thinners, we talked about
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  Speaker 1: Victor Wimbeyama, he had a blood clot in his calf,
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  Speaker 1: he missed five months of the season. You know, that
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  Speaker 1: would be.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't Chris Bosh also have this, and then his career.
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  Speaker 2: Wound up ending, right?
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  Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken. There has been... Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: you're right on the Chris Bosh thing. Obviously, Wheeler had
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  Speaker 1: it in his shoulder. He had to get surgery, and
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  Speaker 1: he missed the whole season and parts of this year.
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  Speaker 1: So you're right about has that thing moved. That will
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  Speaker 1: be a big thing. I guess we won't know. But
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is, it feels like the season is kind
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  Speaker 1: of teetering right now, and it almost has that feeling
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  Speaker 1: of anything that can go wrong will go wrong. Right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a terrible thing. We all hope for
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  Speaker 3: the best for Jalen. I mean, this is more about
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  Speaker 3: life than football. But from a football.
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  Speaker 2: Standpoint, because that's what we do, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, not only– there's just so many– first of all,
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  Speaker 3: they're banged up everywhere else, too. They're trying to stay afloat,
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  Speaker 3: and they're trying to make progress with their injuries, not regress.
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  Speaker 3: But this is clearly, when you lose your starting quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: a regression in that standpoint. And then, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: looks sort of– bad now even though at the time
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think it was a bad move but obviously
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  Speaker 3: releasing Andy Dalton had ramifications because if you had him
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  Speaker 3: still on the roster as your number three even if
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  Speaker 3: you just you have a guy who's capable but like
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  Speaker 3: if McKee got hurt then Dalton could go in so
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  Speaker 3: now you've got a starting quarterback in Tanner McKee and
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  Speaker 3: if he gets hurt.
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing? You're going to Cole Payton? I'm
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  Speaker 2: just telling everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Now They did pick up Joe Milton today, but I
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  Speaker 1: can't imagine.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the problem is they probably wanted to get
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  Speaker 3: back Dalton. He's obviously not going to resign. Dalton at
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  Speaker 3: least would have known the system. You wanted to get
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  Speaker 3: somebody who could at least know the system, even if
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't Dalton. Joe Milton has played for the Patriots
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  Speaker 3: under Josh McDaniels, and he's played for the Cowboys under
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  Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer. This is not exactly the system that the
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  Speaker 3: Eagles are running that would be a parallel to those
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  Speaker 3: other two.
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  Speaker 1: Real quick. Jeff Mosher is with us. The breaking news,
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  Speaker 1: the injury report is out. Saquon Barkley will not play
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  Speaker 1: in the game. He has been ruled out. Jalix Hunt
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  Speaker 1: will not play. Jalen Hurts, obviously. Michael Carter will not play,
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  Speaker 1: and Will Shipley is out. Also doubtful is A.J. Epinesa.
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  Speaker 1: You still have some questionable guys, but I guess the
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  Speaker 1: one good thing here, Jeff, is that I do not
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  Speaker 1: see a designation for Devontae Smith.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's there. Oh, you're right, no game designation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he was a full participant. That's great.
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  Speaker 1: Right, no designation. Limited for Landon Dickerson and Drew Kendall.
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  Speaker 1: So getting Smith back would be a big help. Losing Barkley.
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  Speaker 1: I guess you're going with Damian Pierce again this week,
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  Speaker 1: Carson Steele. And I would ask you the question about
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  Speaker 1: Carson Steele that I think we talked about last week
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  Speaker 1: a little bit is– The fact that he was such
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  Speaker 1: a big receiver in the passing game in the preseason,
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  Speaker 1: does Tanner McKee allow that to be a factor? Does
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  Speaker 1: he dump off a little bit more?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I absolutely, if you're asking if Carson Steele
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  Speaker 3: should see the light of day, I would agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: You cannot give 25 carries to Damian Pierce. He's not explosive.
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  Speaker 3: He's a grinder, and he really doesn't fit an outside
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  Speaker 3: zone scheme. He fits an inside zone scheme. Carson Steele
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  Speaker 3: can catch the ball, can give you a little bit
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  Speaker 3: more juice. It was kind of strange that they signed
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  Speaker 3: him to the 53 and didn't play him at all
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  Speaker 3: against the Jags.
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  Speaker 2: I get it.
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  Speaker 3: Shipley at least started the game, but once he went out,
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  Speaker 3: I would have thought there would have been a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of a rotation there. It was not the case,
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  Speaker 3: especially with your quarterback not running.
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  Speaker 2: I think it would be malpractice.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, me saying this, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: you'd agree, this doesn't mean that we think the difference
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  Speaker 3: between winning and losing is Carson Steele. I'm not trying
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  Speaker 3: to pump up Carson Steele at all. What I'm just
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  Speaker 3: saying is you're looking for some guy who can maybe
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  Speaker 3: make a little bit happen on a play, and Carson
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  Speaker 3: Steele can do that.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're right. Can they do something with the offense
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  Speaker 1: where they're struggling? The offensive line is a struggle buss.
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  Speaker 1: Something that's quick and fast, just, hey, dump it to you,
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  Speaker 1: you go and run. It's something that Hurts just either
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  Speaker 1: doesn't want to do or they don't ask him to do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very much so.
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  Speaker 1: Which one is it?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Is it doesn't want to do or they don't ask
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  Speaker 1: him to do? Which one is it, A or B?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, are we talking about over the long haul
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  Speaker 3: or just last week? Because the injury, the calf, may
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  Speaker 3: have been an issue about why he wasn't running.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no. I'm saying about dumping it off to
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  Speaker 1: the running back. It just seems like it's either something
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  Speaker 1: that he doesn't want to do or they don't ask
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  Speaker 1: him to do.
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  Speaker 3: Yes and yes. There's always an outlet. There's always a
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  Speaker 3: running back if he's not in for pass protection.
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  Speaker 2: He's running a route.
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  Speaker 3: He's either in the flat or actually running a receiver route.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of that is on just the design of
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  Speaker 3: the offense and where Jalen Hurts wants to go with
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  Speaker 3: the ball.
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  Speaker 1: That would be one thing. I think You know, there
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  Speaker 1: was this small conglomerate of people that would like to
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  Speaker 1: see a quarterback like McKee. Maybe not in the previous offense,
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  Speaker 1: but what about in a more West Coast offense? Thoughts there?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, theoretically, what the West Coast offense should do
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  Speaker 3: for McKee caters to his strengths as far as getting
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  Speaker 3: the ball out quickly, open outlets, some pitch and catch. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, that doesn't mean it's going to definitely do
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  Speaker 3: that and that the quarterback's going to take to it.
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  Speaker 3: So it's still a new offense for him. He had
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  Speaker 3: some rough points during the preseason. It's been a couple
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  Speaker 3: months since, so hopefully he's a little more– I would
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  Speaker 3: like to say he's a little more ingratiated with the offense,
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  Speaker 3: but you've got to remember Andy Dalton was the number
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  Speaker 3: two for the first few weeks, so that meant that
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  Speaker 3: he was probably running the scout. Like, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how much work with the actual offense that McKee was
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  Speaker 3: getting at the time outside of individual– developmental periods after.
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  Speaker 1: Practice what were you going to ask me so i.
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  Speaker 3: Have a real issue and maybe it's just me because
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  Speaker 3: i have bad eyes but the eagles report that they
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  Speaker 3: put on on social media the o for out and
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  Speaker 3: the d for doubtful almost look exactly the same so
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  Speaker 3: i have to like really zoom in to tell if
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  Speaker 3: a guy is out or doubtful and even the q
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  Speaker 3: looks a little bit like an o so sometimes i
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  Speaker 3: think a guy is out when he's questionable and vice
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  Speaker 3: versa do you have that issue too or.
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  Speaker 1: Is it just me Well, I'm reading the email that
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  Speaker 1: they sent.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, you're smart.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you look at the one that they put
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  Speaker 3: out on their socials, it's really, really tough to tell.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm looking at it now.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like the first six guys are out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the O and the D, well.
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  Speaker 2: Look at Epinesa and look at Hunt. Like, I thought
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  Speaker 2: that was the same letter. I just thought six guys
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  Speaker 2: are out.
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  Speaker 1: Epinesa, yes, is the D, and Hunt is an O.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm at the eye doctor, and I
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  Speaker 3: got a chart, and I got to cover one eye.
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  Speaker 1: And read it. Well, the weird part is that they
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  Speaker 1: put Epinesa out of order.
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  Speaker 2: He's between all the out guys, right?
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  Speaker 1: Right. Like, they put two guys that are out, Barkley
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  Speaker 1: and Carter, then Epinesa, who's doubtful, and then Hunt, who's out, Hurts,
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  Speaker 1: who's out. So why would they stick him in there
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  Speaker 1: with the out guys? I see what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: They do it in alphabetical. No, they don't do it
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  Speaker 2: in alphabetical.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't get it.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense. I agree. But out is Barkley,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Carter, J. Lickson, Hertz, and Shipley. I guess the
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  Speaker 1: thought process was, what's the deal with Grenard? He was
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  Speaker 1: a full participant. I guess he's going to try again
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  Speaker 1: to go on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: He said he was going to warm it up. I
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  Speaker 3: believe he or someone else said he was going to
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  Speaker 3: warm it up before the game like he did with
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  Speaker 3: London and see if he's good to go. So I
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  Speaker 3: would tell you then, if that's the case, that's already
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  Speaker 3: not the greatest sign in the world because we're talking
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  Speaker 3: about a guy who's played 50 snaps this year, missed
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  Speaker 3: six weeks. before he could play those 50 snaps, missed
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  Speaker 3: another week after, and then missed several weeks, if not,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, months last year after getting injured. So you're
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  Speaker 3: talking about a guy who's not played or practiced a
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  Speaker 3: whole lot of football since around this time last year.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and Epinesa looks like he might not play, and
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  Speaker 1: Hunt is out. So what does that mean for that
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  Speaker 1: position on Sunday?
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  Speaker 3: I guess we're going to see a lot of Nolan
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  Speaker 3: Smith and Arnold Evocati. I mean, it's not like there's
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  Speaker 3: a whole lot left in the tank. I think they'll
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  Speaker 3: continue to use Zach Bond as a rusher in their
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  Speaker 3: blitz packages, as a fifth rusher, or as the fourth
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  Speaker 3: rusher in a four-man sim pressure, which we've talked about
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  Speaker 3: a lot, where you blitz a linebacker but you drop
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  Speaker 3: an edge player. He was that guy against the Jaguars,
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  Speaker 3: and I imagine he'll continue to be against the Panthers.
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  Speaker 1: Offensive line jeff uh looks like kendall questionable also landon
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  Speaker 1: dickerson it looks like you're going to go with the
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  Speaker 1: same line as you did last week how does that
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  Speaker 1: affect having tanner mckee play that position.
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  Speaker 2: Well um if they play it as.
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  Speaker 1: Poorly if they play it as poorly as they did
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  Speaker 1: a week ago yeah i.
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  Speaker 3: Mean look it's it's going to be a real curiosity
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  Speaker 3: to see if landon dickerson who you said is questionable
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  Speaker 3: right i'm looking at it in the same time you
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  Speaker 3: are uh Limited but questionable. I kind of feel like
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. So we'll see how much that helps
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  Speaker 3: if he's able to play. And they also list Drew
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  Speaker 3: Kendall as questionable and limited. Usually if you're limited on Friday, Mike,
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  Speaker 3: you don't play. That's just I'm not saying these guys
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  Speaker 3: aren't going to play.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm saying limited on the last practice.
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  Speaker 3: Of the week often is a. That, to me, is
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  Speaker 3: the old doubtful, which they got rid of. So we'll
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  Speaker 3: have to see. It might as well– it could be–
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  Speaker 3: you might be seeing Majors, Lampkin, and all those guys
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  Speaker 3: back in there again.
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  Speaker 1: Damian Pierce. I was talking to Mike K. earlier. You
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  Speaker 1: remember Mike used to cover the Eagles. He's now down
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  Speaker 1: in Carolina. And, you know, he said, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you can run the ball. I said, yeah, but not
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  Speaker 1: with this offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean, the Eagles haven't run the ball.
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  Speaker 3: We have a joke in our Inside the Birds pregame show, Mike,
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  Speaker 3: where I blame Kaplan for this because– Every week, going
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  Speaker 3: back to the start of last year, the Eagles have
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  Speaker 3: played a team, just like the Panthers this week, that
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  Speaker 3: have injuries in the secondary.
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  Speaker 2: And every week, Cap will be like, this is the
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  Speaker 2: team you come out passing on. You come out passing,
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  Speaker 2: you throw it, you throw it.
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  Speaker 3: And every week we watch the Eagles pass offense just
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  Speaker 3: regress into an immovable object, right? So I don't say
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  Speaker 3: the same thing with the running game now. I don't
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  Speaker 3: believe they can run in anybody until they show it.
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  Speaker 1: Not with this offensive line. I mean, where are you
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  Speaker 1: getting pushed from? It's now. You would hope that, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Steen, no, I guess Markel Bell, I guess is
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  Speaker 1: more in pass protection. He's better than run blocking right now,
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  Speaker 1: it seems like. And Mailata, for whatever reason, Mailata's never
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  Speaker 1: been a dominant, seemingly run blocker.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like he and Dickerson, at Dickerson's best, when
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  Speaker 3: they combo blocked on a three technique or a five technique,
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  Speaker 3: it was like just a massive amount of humanity. I
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  Speaker 3: do think Mailata, he might not admit this, I think
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  Speaker 3: he's been impacted defensively. somewhat mentally by the guy next
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  Speaker 3: to him either not being very good anymore or just
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  Speaker 3: changing all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Well he said yesterday you know um that uh you
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  Speaker 1: know he's like i might have jumped the gun on
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  Speaker 1: that i mean talking about the other guys and then
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  Speaker 1: the hertz news comes down yeah and it's almost like
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  Speaker 1: you look around jeff and you're the lone soldier left
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  Speaker 1: in the room and you're like all the good times
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  Speaker 1: that we had these guys aren't here anymore it's like
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  Speaker 1: the guy who you know was in college and everybody
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  Speaker 1: graduated in four years except for you. And you're like,
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  Speaker 1: wait a second, I don't have my friends around here anymore.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't as fun as it was. That's almost what
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  Speaker 1: it feels like for him.
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  Speaker 2: I said on the show it reminds me of two memes.
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  Speaker 3: The Fresh Prince final season episode where he walks into
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  Speaker 3: the room and nobody's there. And Reservoir Dogs, right? When
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  Speaker 3: Travolta walks into the room and he's looking around.
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  Speaker 1: Where is everybody? Yeah, that seems to be like my
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  Speaker 1: lot of Um, right now when he looks around that
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  Speaker 1: offensive line room, like, okay, Kelsey bound. Okay. Dickerson is hurt. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and he's not here. Got rid of. Yeah, it is
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  Speaker 1: gotta be a kind of a culture shock. And that's
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  Speaker 1: one of the big topics today. Jeff is, are the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles kind of in limbo of where they are as
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  Speaker 1: an organization? If this week doesn't go well and next
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  Speaker 1: week doesn't go well, like do they start to think
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  Speaker 1: about reset rebuild? Is that a thought with this, with
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  Speaker 1: the way this organization thinks?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's usually not, and I did say last week
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  Speaker 3: or whenever with you, I didn't feel like the trade
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  Speaker 3: of Cam Juergens was a fire sale, and it's not.
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  Speaker 3: They got a second-round pick, and they felt like they
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  Speaker 3: probably were going to be moving on from him anyway.
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  Speaker 2: But you still wouldn't have done that if you.
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  Speaker 3: Were undefeated, I think, or if you were looking like
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  Speaker 3: a team that was going to win a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you would have done that.
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  Speaker 3: What would happen if they then lose again Sunday and
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: then have another, and then you find out Hertz is
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: going to be out for four to six weeks.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: I it's obviously how he has already made a move
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: that he probably would not have made in the past.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: So we'd have to see how he'd react to more
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: bad news or losing.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Jeff Mosher from the inside, the birds podcast inside the birds.com.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: You can listen to the inside, the birds podcast on
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: all podcasting platforms. And of course, check out all his
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Eagles coverage and more of his team over at Philly voice.com and,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: He was kind enough to jump in on today's edition
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: of the Football at Four. Carolina 2-2, playoff team last year.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: They scored 30 points a game. You're at home. You
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: are a dog at home here. Does this feel like
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: one of those where everyone's bailed on them and they
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: find a way or just too beat up?
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: It's funny because it felt like they were given the
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: benefit of the doubt early because on Monday I think
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: they were 1.5-point favorites. All right, and then more injury
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: information came out, and it's like, okay, they're not. Now
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: it's back to one and a half for the Panthers.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: And then the Hurts news came out, and then, I
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: don't know, you probably have seen the latest. I think
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: it was three and a half.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: It could be going even up now that the Panthers
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: have been favored.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: In this game for the last 48 hours, and it
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: might be going up as they get closer to Sunday.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now Barkley's out, too. You know that. I mean,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Smith coming back, I guess, does help you a little bit. Yeah.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: If you need to just throw one down the field
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: and hope that he can get under there. I think
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: it was you that said it last week. The throw
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: that goes to Wicks, if that's Smith, does Smith get
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: under that and catch that thing, right?
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Or if it's even, you know, if Wicks doesn't have
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: a hamstring, that, you know. There's just so much that
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: went wrong there, yeah.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Three and a half the number is right now, by
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: the way. Three and a half, over under 39 and
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: a half. It's like, can Philly score 10? You know,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I like under. Their defense really good
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: and Eagles offense really bad, so it feels like an
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: underfeel in this one. All right, Jeff Mosher, everybody, from
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: the Inside the Birds podcast, joined us here on a
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Friday edition of Football at Four. Thanks, man.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: You got it, Mike. Take care.