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Ep. 42 : Putting The Bee In 2024 Bowman · Cards & Categories

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  Hello, and welcome everybody to episode forty two of Cards and Categories. I
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  am Mike Coolard from bras Ball, joined as always by my very good friend
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  Jeremy Brewer from ras Ball brew. Since we talked last week, we've had
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  a huge development in Major League Baseball and that is three brand new, super
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  awesome mascots have hit the floor. So I got to know which one is
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  your favorite? Between the Rays skateboarding Ray logo, the Arizona Beekeeper, and
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  of course, I mean I'm gonna maybe sway you a little bit in this
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  vote, but my favorite the Minnesota Summer Sausage. So, of these three
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  mascots, which one is by far your favorite? That's tough. I mean,
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  I'm I'm gonna have to go with the beekeeper personally, your beekeeper guy,
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  Okay, I'm a beekeeper guy. You know anybody that you know?
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  Can I, if I rig correctly, can race across town forty minutes away
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  at kids ballgame, make it thirty minutes through Arizona traffic and what should have
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  taken you Phoenix traffic in forty minutes and then saved the day by removing the
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  bees and then throw out the first pitch like I mean the beekeeper, like
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  it's Arizona Diamondbacks is now the Arizona Bees, Like there's no question we the
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  Houston killer Bees have lost all name at this point. So I don't I'm
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  liking the beekeeper. How about so to tell me summer sausage you explained?
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  You tell me why so well? I mean, for one, it's just
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  a bunch of dudes like throwing around and slapping a giant like five pounds summer
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  sausage, and all the quotes from it are the ending windows are amazing in
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  terms of just the amount of times that the Minnesota Twins over the past week
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  have talked about sausages in all their media interviews, and you can see this
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  sausage like in their dugout that so I summer sausage is self or like shelf
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  stable. They've actually The Athletic had some pretty good coverage of this where they
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  actually interviewed like sausage makers to get research on how I can't believe I'm explaining
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  this. This is so amazing that our viewerships just dropped. I think it's
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  up. I think it's up because this baseball is all about this weird stuff,
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  and so the sausage is technically like shelf stable, but you can see
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  this thing looks sweaty and greasy on the inside of the packaging, and I'm
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  sure it's no good at this point that you know it's been compromised in some
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  way. I'm just waiting for it to pop and like see what smells them
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  in eight. But I'm pro summer sausage just because the Twins, if you
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  remember last year, they tried to like force celebrations with the fishing vest and
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  like the fishing rod and stuff. And when you bring it just the sausage
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  involved, and like, let guys be guys. I think you get just
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  much more funny situations. And yeah, I'm here for the sausage, especially
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  considering the rally that it's led to the Twins on over the past week and
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  a half. You know, at least you have say it's natural, it's
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  real. It's not the force celebrations with the big you know hats or the
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  big you know what was it the Reds had like a Vikings helmet or something
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  like that in their dug out celebrations. It's it's not over the top.
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  It's what we have, the fridge available, what I want to know.
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  I guess I haven't looked a well enough. What started this, like,
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  was somebody like, I don't we have nothing to celebrate today. Summer sawage.
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  Yeah, one of the players received it as a gift at some point,
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  So I will look that up. But I was I thought we were
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  gonna say that it's organic, unlike the skateboarding Devil ray, which is very
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  forced. I I like it, but I will say that the execution could
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  have been slightly better because if you look at the logo too, like,
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  it just looks wonky in terms of the skateboard design. That and the fin
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  of the ray is like coming over one of the wheels. That's not how
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  you ride a skateboard. I mean, like I know, so I did
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  look it up. The Summer Sausage or origins here. Kyle Farmer left a
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  summer sauage received on a table in the clubhouse. He received from you know,
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  somebody gift, some gift, fast package. Then the hitting coach you
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  grabbed it brunt of the dugout. I'm assuming it's a snack, and then
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  the rest is history. The rest is innuendo filled history. And so yeah,
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  I'm going with longevity. The bee keeper maybe I'm biased because that one
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  can last more than summer sausage. And if somebody tells me the summer sausage
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  is go longer, I've got to take a lot of questions. Yeah,
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  and TOPS agrees with you here, as the bee keeper guy has gotten his
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  own tops Now card and somehow TOPS signed his rights that he's autographed cards,
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  So I think they're sticker autographs if you're really worried about whether they're sticker on
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  card. But on top of it too, it looks like I don't know
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  if you've realized this with tops Now, but they've been running short print parallels
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  with all the cards that go out. So the short print parallel for this
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  one is just the huddle of the bees. So if you were to order
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  this card and get the short print parallel, you would get the normal Matt
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  Hilton bee Keeper card of him throwing out that first pitch when he's hyping out
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  the crowd, and then also that short print parallel of the bee swarm on
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  the netting. Also, try go for the full rainbow here. You've got
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  a rainbow of blue, purple, red, orange gold to knock out on
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  the Matt Hilton bee Keeper rainbow out there. I'm I'm kind of disappointed that
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  Tops now hasn't done a summer sausage card, but maybe that's too much in
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  the window for Tops. I just don't know the autographs on the summer sausage.
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  I just I don't know how those play for summer sausage relics. There's
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  a lawsuit waiting to happen somebody gets salmonella from a summer sage they pull from
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  a pack two years from now. So those redemptions, let me tell you
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  the redemptions on those things. That was a great segue there. Yes,
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  that's another bit of news that we did get out to Tops this week is
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  that they are changing the redemption process. So if you've been out there ripping
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  cards, and I know this has held people back in the past from ripping
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  older card sets because if you have a redemption, they always had dates on
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  them that usually expired in three ish years. I don't know if it was
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  necessarily always super consistent, and then if it did to go past the expiration
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  date, you just had to hope that when you sent it in to TOPS
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  they would somehow hook you up with some sort of equivalent ish autograph or some
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  sort of goodie package. But they did announce that they will make redemptions go
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  out to ten years now, which I think is going to be really huge,
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  maybe partly for I also wouldn't be surprised if a little bit of this
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  is facetious on Tops's part, that they've got a lot of twenty and twenty
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  one product laying around that they need to get out the door eventually and don't
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  want to have all these data expirations because I do think that there is a
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  lot of unripped wax from the era that we've been in the past couple of
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  years. As production numbers have gone up, the popularity of the overall hobby
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  has gone up, and for some reason people love to sit on the wax,
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  which I mean I never could because I love ripping them. But this
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  is the other reason, Like, if you're sitting on any sort of redemption,
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  you need to get into them quickly. But I guess you've got you
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  know, another seven or eight years if you really want to. At this
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  point, yeah, I think you're right to the point where I think it
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  is more marketing playploy than anything. You know, you have to think that
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  they've with the prevalence of sticker autos that they have a massive stock hold of
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  these sticker autos because redemptions don't seem to be as common as they once were,
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  and so I think it's kind of a risk mitigation technique because they didn't
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  say they're going to actually fill these. They're saying that it's just up to
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  ten years that you could have the it's not going to expire, and so,
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  you know, just because it's a redemption does not guarantee that it's gonna
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  get gonna get filled, even though it should. So I do think that
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  there's a little bit of a play to this that they've got their their redemption
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  strategy under control, so now they can just open it up because there's just
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  not that much left that they have, you know. I think with the
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  announcement, they said that about a year ago they had seventy thousand outstanding redemptions
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  that they owed and now it's ten thousand, so they've cut that significantly,
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  and so I think it's to the point where like, we've got all the
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  backstock ready, so we know we're gonna make it. But I especially with
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  some of those you know, twenty twenty one card, twenty twenty two's you
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  know it's it's kind of a nice kicker that you don't have to be worried
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  about getting stuck with your one auto out of your hobby box not getting getting
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  fulfilled. So all the way out to twenty thirty three now on redemptions,
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  twenty thirty four actually for what we're gonna talk about later day with Bowman,
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  Yeah, exactly, So that is going to be our bigger talk after we
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  get through our news and notes sections. Here is Bowman. Twenty twenty four
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  drops on May seventh, So we're going to give you a little bit of
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  a preview this week so that you're ready to get out there and buy it
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  when it drops next Wednesday on the seventh. I guess depends on when you're
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  listening to this, but we are recording this on May first, and we'll
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  just get into the news right now, because I'm not sure if there's a
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  fun way to segue into the injury news that we have this week. That
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  we've got another very lengthy list of players that are hitting injured lists and messing
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  up our fantasy pools up there out there once again. And the big one
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  right off the bat, Mike Trout goes down with a torn meniscus and is
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  having surgery. They haven't announced a timeline yet because I would imagine miniscus surgeries
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  are a little finicky that you know, when you get in there, you
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  don't exactly know the full stand of the damage until you've opened up the knee,
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  and so it depends on how extensive that surgery needs to be when they're
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  in Mike Trout's knee to determine his timeline for return. So currently I think
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  people are starting to pay it for early to mid August, so you're looking
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  at Trout being down for another good two ish months. And this certainly really
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  hurts because if you had Trout, you had to have been really excited for
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  the production you were getting out of him at the beginning of this year.
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  Yeah, you're You're absolutely right, And you know, I think I've seen
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  that the best case scenario is four to six weeks, which is I think
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  absolutely best case. I'm if I'm gonna take the optimistic route here, which
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  I think I would, is that there wasn't really a very clear instance of
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  when this happened. It was more he had some soreness. They went and
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  took checked it out. So to me that means that the severity is hopefully
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  not as bad because you can just take your biscuits and just just go,
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  and you know that's it is dangerous and so that when that happens, it's
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  it usually is a little bit longer. But to your point, you know,
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  Trout was off to an absolutely fantastic start. Sure he wasn't his average
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  was a little bit lacking, but I mean he'd already surpassed like half of
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  the power total from last year. He's the more small and more basis this
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  year he had the last three years combined. Like he looked like he was
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  a man on a mission. And I mean, if he would have kept
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  up what he was doing so far, like he was back. He's back
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  in the MVP talks, and we talked about in the preseason, right like
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  this was the first time in probably a decade that Trout was like underpriced in
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  drafts and so you could actually get Mike Trout, actually plug him in and
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  hope for the best, knowing the injury is always a risk. And yeah,
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  unfortunately here we are and it's a sad day for fantasy baseball. Was
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  also just a sad day for baseball because Mike Trout was is one of the
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  best things that ever happened to baseball, and it is sad to see him
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  not on the field. So I don't know, you have to cheer four
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  for the Angels now, no Atani, no Trout. Well, it's Joe
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  Brandy, it is Joey Dell's season, like full fledged. I think at
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  this point, who has opened with a three sixteen, three sixty five six
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  fourteen line with that's a one seventy two WRC plus out of Joe Adell,
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  who has also added four homers and five stolen bases. So this really opens
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  up that pathway to jo Adell playing full time. I'm starting to believe in
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  this new version of Jodell. I don't think he's going to keep hitting three
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  sixteen, that the batting average will certainly sink down to the two forti ish
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  range, But I think that he's proven enough over this month to show that
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  he's made that extra developments. You can see it actually just in his contact
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  rates. His contact rates over the past month have been the best he's shown
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  in the majors. So I don't know if it's just better control of the
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  zone or a better I or what is finally, clicked for Joe Adell specifically,
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  but I think that you're looking at an outfielder that's going to be usable
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  in just about every league for the rest of the season. Like I said,
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  the batting average might be a little bit low, but you're looking at
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  somebody who over a full season, could give you something like twenty twenty or
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  twenty five twenty ish sort of lined with equivalent runs. And RBIs hitting at
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  the top of the Angels lineup. Yeah, I'm very torn on Joe Adell,
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  Like I've spent some time looking at him just yesterday, and he's done
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  this before, Like I think he's come out of the gate like this before.
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  The metrics all look similar, and then he just fell off the face
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  of the earth. The one difference being his strikeout rate is significantly better than
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  it was at that time in past season. So that's the one thing I'm
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  watching right now. First of all, you can't watch with Jodell at this
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  point, like you have to go pick him up if he's still available.
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  It's not like I'm just like, well, let's see what happens, like
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  you have to make that move. But I would be watching very closely to
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  see if those strikeouts stay intact. If they do, yeah, we're onto
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  something. If they start to spike back in the mid twenties, maybe even
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  worse than I'm I'm selling high at that point. That is a very one
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  dimensional analysis here. I'm looking at the strikeout right only for Joe Adell.
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  If it's high, I'm all out. If it's low, I'm in.
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  No. I think that's fair because I think that is the indicator of the
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  overall kind of plate discipline for Joe Odell there. So we will certainly keep
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  an eye on him the rest of the summer. We've got a little bit
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  of a similar situation I would say almost in Chicago, as he's just about
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  right after we recorded the pod early last week. Cody Bellinger then subsequently ran
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  into the brick wall at Wrigley Field. He left that game and that night
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  they did an initial X ray but didn't find any damage. Did another X
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  ray the next morning and found a couple fractured ribs. Looks like he should
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  be out four to six weeks. But Cody Bellinger certainly is not a stranger
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  to the il either, as that shoulder and knee have bothered him over the
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  years, and so this just kind of adds to that litany of injuries for
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  Cody Bellinger. I'm also just kind of all these rib and kind of oblique
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  injuries are also just really worrisome in terms of the timeline getting back because you
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  just don't fully know how they're going to react. But what that doesn't do
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  is it opens center field in Chicago for PCA. Pete crow Armstrong is being
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  called up and looks to be getting pretty much full time in centerfield for the
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  Cubs until Bellinger is back. So, brew, what do you think this
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  portends for Bellinger's value the rest of this year? And what do you do
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  in in leagues where PA might be available. Yeah, I think Bellinger's value
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  I think definitely takes a pretty significant hit here, you know, from a
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  a actual power perspective getting back in the in the box. You know,
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  rib injuries do since seem to take some time to think you can come back,
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  but to actually be folded back is a different piece. And Bellinger,
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  I don't know, it feels like you're gonna right walk in a tightrope with
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  Bellinger last year this year just what the production and you just don't want anything
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  to tip the wrong way on that tightrope. So I'm a little worried for
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  Bellinger that said, there's not much you can do. You gotta wait.
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  Help hopefully gets back, hopefully gets off to hearts hot start, and you're
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  able to, you know, look forward. But on the other hand,
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  Pete crow Armstrong, I really do like Pete crow Armstrong for the long haul,
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  not for twenty twenty four. He is a glove first prospect. He's
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  got some good speed, but that bat's gonna take some time to come around.
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  You know, we're talking to guy that it in the miners this year.
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  I think he was walking three percent of the time, which is not
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  like I have to look at the leader words like that. That is very
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  impressive to walk that little. The power is still very very early. He
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  feels like he's still a kid that needs to fill out for this despite being
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  twenty two. I mean he's a he's six Like it's been a long time
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  since I was six one, considering I've never been six to one. But
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  besides that issue, like he it's just gonna take some time. I I
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  I like him long term. You know. He makes me think more of
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  like a Kevin Kiermeier something like that. Really great glove, good speed,
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  He's gonna eventually be ten to fifteen homers. But I think he's good.
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  He's a better real world player then he has a fantasy player, and there's
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  nothing wrong with that. I think that's actually great for the Cubs. I
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  think he's going to be a really good fit for them and a really good
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  player long term for them. I'm just not too excited from a fantasy perspective.
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  So you're the Chicago guy. Tell me I'm wrong, No, Crow,
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  I think there's I don't know if I'm quite as negative as you,
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  but I do think that, like from a fantasy perspective, it's going to
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  be a little tough to roster Pete Crow Armstrong over these next few weeks while
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  Ballenger is out, unless you are desperate for the steals, because I think
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  that is the one component of PCA's game that could be dynamic for fantasy.
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  He is going to be hitting ninth in this Cubs lineup. I think he's
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  going to be like a two forty s hitter. I am a little bit.
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  When I wrote about him this past weekend for my Waiver Wire report on
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  Saturday, I was also worried about that strikeout rate. But I've subsequently found
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  out that, like it's kind of also his first taste of the automated ball
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  strike zone down in Triple A, so I think that might have been driving
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  some of that discomfort. I chalked it up in my column to you see
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  these types of players where I always think about Francisco Lindor being this where they
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  just were so good that they got bored in Triple A and knew that they
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  belonged to the majors. And so you maybe hope that PCA had a little
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  bit of that going on when he was hitting two oh three down Triple A
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  before his call up. But yeah, I'm not looking for the ceiling to
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  be super high here, but I think he's maybe essentially like if you are
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  in a league where Harrison Baiter is usable, PCA is usable. That is
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  the the epitome of a comparison right there. If you're in a league with
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  Harrison Baders is usable. First of all, that's deep league right there.
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  I don't know, pretty solid of late they like, yeah, but like
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  I think he's that type of mold where good glove, good speed, a
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  little bit of pop just can hit a ball. But like, yeah,
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  you're not going to count on a huge amount of production now of that bad
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  I see a Waiver Wire article about PCA playing in corps Field at some point
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  down the line. I should look that up when they when the US are
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  going out there, because he would be fun to watch in Cooers Field,
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  like just play center gios. All right, Well, I alluded to this
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  other injury a little bit with Cody Bellinger, and that is Tristan Cossas also
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  went now with an injury like right after we recorded last week, and this
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  one was very serious that it seems that he like essentially like tore a rib
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  and fractured it, like out of the ribcage. There's like cartilage damage and
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  just it just seems really gross and nasty that Tristan Cossas popped that ribout when
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  he was swinging the bat last week and things really went south at first p
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  S for Boston since then, as they have actually picked up Garrett Cooper from
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  the Cubs, and they just picked up Dominic Smith to day from the Tampa
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  Bay Race. So that is the platoon they're rolling out there with a little
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  bit of Bobby Dolbeck mixed in. It's really gonna test what the Red Sox
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  depth is gonna be over the next couple of weeks as this this four through
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  nine is absurd right now in the Boston lineup on roster resource, the cleanup
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  hitter is will you abray you? With Connor Wong hitting fifth, Dom Smith
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  hitting sixth, Garrett Cooper hitting seventh, Emanuel Valdez at second, which should
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  turn into Von Grissom pretty soon, who's working his way back from flu,
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  should be back a few days yep. Yeah, and then Saddan Rafaela at
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  shortstop in the nine hole, and so yes, what are you doing with
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  Tristan Cassis, you know, for rest of season? And then also are
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  you reconsidering like any of your Boston Red Sox assets, maybe in Duran Devers
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  O'Neill if you have them, because that lineup around them has gone to shreds
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  pretty quickly. Yeah. I so with casas I this this injury is really
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  worrisome just because of the variability on their return. Like with the cartilage injury,
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  you can't, like muscle back, you can't try to rehab extra like
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  you just have to sit around until it heals. And it's your midsection,
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  it's not like it's gonna heal easily, and they you know, I saw
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  an interview with Costas and they said, like, how long did the doctors
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  tell you? And they said, well somewhere from three to six to nine
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  weeks, as long as it takes. Like I'm like, well, that's
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  really clear, either one, two or four three months, and and he
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  said like, well it hurts to breathe. Well, I'm no expert,
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  but that's hard to play baseball if you can't breathe. And so I'm concerned,
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  like, I think this is going to be a nagulant. I think
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  it's going to take him a longer to get back. Then you know,
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  he's he's hopeful, he wants to get back, he wants to play,
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  and so I am not you know, I'm I'm booking this as a three
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  month injury. You know, we're we're talking August when when when he gets
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  back. And so if there's anybody that's wanting to try to buy low or
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  something on him, I'm I'm all for it. But to your point,
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  I mean, I yeah, I'm I'm concerned with with what's going on in
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  Boston. Like he you you got a good top top three there. Duran
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  Devers O'Neill, But talk about streaky hitters. O'Neill and even duran To a
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  bit could be streaky hitters. So like, if I'm a Raffie Devers owner,
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  I'm sitting here going like there is no protection for for him, and
• 24:22
  there's not like you're not getting gonna have the guys on base. He's not
• 24:25
  gonna get knocked in like it's gonna he's gonna have an empty batting line.
• 24:29
  He's gonna have the power and things like that. He's gonna hit for a
• 24:32
  good average, but he's just not gonna have the counting stats that we're used
• 24:33
  to from a Raphael Devers. So I think you, like you have to
• 24:37
  knock him down a few pegs, not because of him, just because the
• 24:41
  scenario of where he's at, he just he has no protection at this point.
• 24:47
  Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think if there's one player
• 24:51
  in that lineup that has an up arrow, though, it's Will, you're
• 24:53
  a bray you because this injury certainly locks him in for some pretty long term
• 25:00
  playing time. And I mean he's now over one hundred and seventy two played
• 25:04
  appearances on his career Slash three sixteen three ninety five hundred. That's an eight
• 25:10
  ninety ops. So he's been a pretty solid hitter. So I guess that
• 25:14
  might be like the one kind of upside. And I guess something to keep
• 25:18
  in mind as you're looking for, honestly, even filling out for the Bellinger
• 25:22
  and Trout injuries, because William or Bray you should also kind of be usable
• 25:26
  in twelve teamers as long as he's hitting cleanup. Yes, very true,
• 25:30
  Like there's I guess there's silver lining everywhere, is in there exactly? Yeah,
• 25:34
  there's a good and a bad push and pull. Okay, Well,
• 25:37
  we're gonna go down the coast a little bit in the al East to Baltimore,
• 25:44
  where this one kind of dropped out of nowhere. Today, Grayson Rodriguez
• 25:48
  is being placed on the IL with shoulder inflammation. So this looks a lot
• 25:53
  like what happened to Bobby Miller a couple of weeks ago, which is kind
• 25:57
  of serendipitous considering that they were both so high up in the velocity readings on
• 26:06
  fastballs and kind of right next to each other that they also are on that
• 26:10
  list of players with high velocities on those fast balls that are have hit the
• 26:17
  ils over the past couple of weeks, but we'll see kind of where this
• 26:21
  shakes out for Grace and Rodriguez. Currently I would expect him out maybe two
• 26:25
  to four weeks, but shoulders are always worrisome. With the corresponding transaction,
• 26:30
  the Orioles activated John Means from his rehab stint down in Triple A as he
• 26:38
  is recovering from Tommy John surgery. No, not Tommy John. That was
• 26:44
  last year, but he was ramping back up. I think from Tommy John
• 26:48
  again. Yeah, a forum strain. He's coming from forum strain. I
• 26:52
  believe that's why I had it with the and the results have been awful.
• 27:00
  John Means down in Triple A, He's pitched six games, eighteen innings with
• 27:03
  an eight point six year ARRA, but it's mostly been driven by a two
• 27:07
  point four home run per nine, which is just brutal. So, uh,
• 27:12
  Brew, what are you doing in leagues where you might own Grayson Rodriguez
• 27:17
  and any interest in John Means? Yeah? I first of all, no,
• 27:22
  yeah, I mean neither. Let's just start there. No no interest
• 27:26
  in John Means. This one's really tough for me with Grayson because there's there's
• 27:30
  very little data, very little detail he looks fantastic come into the season,
• 27:34
  but he's he's not looked that good this season. His his XCRA is about
• 27:41
  four and a half. His his Baseball Savant page is mostly blue outside velocity.
• 27:45
  His ground ball rates dropped, Like there's things have it looked so so
• 27:51
  great for Grayson so far. Again we're talking six games, could be small
• 27:53
  sample, but it's been kind of mass because he's got four wins in those
• 27:57
  games and he's out and kind of lucky to agree with guys getting left on
• 28:03
  base uh velst he's down a little. So there's just a number of warning
• 28:07
  signs as I look at this and now it's it's landed an injury, Like
• 28:11
  how bad is this? Is really really my concern. So I don't think
• 28:15
  there's much you can do besides wait and wait for the information, because it's
• 28:18
  still if you there's so many pitcher injuries this year, you are absolutely holding
• 28:25
  like if you haven't lost a number one and two starter, like you got
• 28:26
  to go play the lottery at this point, because you're you're walking on water.
• 28:32
  But you know there's a number of folks have lost there one and two
• 28:34
  starters. But I'm waiting on Grayson to kind of see what comes out of
• 28:38
  it. But I am a little concerned that he's been hurt for for a
• 28:44
  while now and they're just like that we now, we got to put some
• 28:47
  rest on it. And I just I don't like those injuries where you end
• 28:49
  up on the ail for rest and let it heal itself, because those just
• 28:55
  seems to drag so long and there's just no information, and like, let's
• 29:00
  just look at somewhere else in the rotation with Kyle Bradis, who's just making
• 29:03
  it back, and he was shut down and got some rest and come back,
• 29:10
  and that was like a two month, you know, ordeal just to
• 29:14
  kind of make it back, And so I hope it's short, but I'm
• 29:18
  not kind of my good graces here. Yeah, I agree, And you
• 29:22
  can see a little bit like in the game blog where it has degraded a
• 29:26
  little bit for Grayson over the past couple weeks. I do wonder if it
• 29:30
  just got to a point where he had to finally kind of tap out and
• 29:33
  say I need a little time off. But it is certainly concerning. I
• 29:37
  do think that, like if you've got any chance to move on from him
• 29:41
  in Dynasty, like at eighty ish since on the dollar that maybe I would
• 29:45
  consider doing it, because I just don't think that this is gonna be like
• 29:52
  a great trajectory for Grace and Rodriguez as he moves through the next couple of
• 29:56
  years trying to get stretched out and kind of the way that injuries are shaping
• 30:02
  up and forming our playerpool for pitching. Yeah, there's a lot of promise
• 30:07
  here. There's just a there's gotta be some like I don't know where to
• 30:10
  look right now for correlation with injuries. Is it how our pitchers is it?
• 30:15
  You know guys that with a lot of Indians in the miners, it
• 30:18
  feels like literally everything is an indicator for an injury for a pitcher. Everybody
• 30:22
  that you thought was reliable just isn't. Maybe that's why Lancelim is the new
• 30:27
  hot thing. Yeah, he's still not all right. The next injury that
• 30:33
  we have, speaking of injuries to number ones and number two's Blake Snell went
• 30:37
  down with an abductor strain with the Giants, and so he didn't look right
• 30:42
  at the gate at all in any of his starts since signing with the Giants.
• 30:47
  There, and I'm curious, I mean, I have to imagine,
• 30:49
  like there's temptation and maybe slightly shallower leagues to be cutting Blake Snell. If
• 30:56
  you're running out of injury spots, what do you think brew is that of
• 31:00
  st I no, no, I mean it's I understand, I understand the
• 31:07
  logic there. But if you if you drafted Blake Snell for E ra A,
• 31:12
  then you started a from a flawed premise. Blake Snell was not there
• 31:17
  for your era. He was not there for your whip. He is there
• 31:18
  for your strikeouts. And you know, I think that if you look at
• 31:22
  early he's he's kind of looked a little all over the place. You know,
• 31:26
  there is a you know, double digits, not generally good as a
• 31:29
  starter from what I've heard. But you know, I do think that he's
• 31:33
  he's going to come back once he's healthy. He's going to deliver the strikeouts.
• 31:37
  He's still going to be risky, he's still going to be all over
• 31:38
  the place. That's just the Lake Snell profile. But it looks like there's
• 31:44
  a good chance, you know, he's already scheduled through a bullpen session.
• 31:47
  There's a good chance he could get back with relatively with the minimum. Hopefully
• 31:51
  that kind of restarts him from a little better, better spot here. So
• 31:56
  if somebody's moved on from Blake Snell, I'm I'm picking him up. I'm
• 32:00
  interested in him. I'm also not like chasing him by any means, because
• 32:04
  he's still likes this very high variability outcome guy. But you know, strikeouts
• 32:08
  are needed, and with all these big strikeout names going down, like a
• 32:14
  guy like Snell has a pretty big advantage if you have some stability elsewhere.
• 32:19
  Yeah, and it's a lot of like, the peripherals were still pretty solid
• 32:22
  for Blake Snell pitching. You know, the k's were down a little bit,
• 32:27
  but obviously he was working in to form. The ground ball rate was
• 32:30
  there though the actual like barrel percentages and hard hit rates were in line with
• 32:36
  the past couple of years. It's just that he had a four ten BABBP
• 32:37
  and I don't know if I've ever seen it this low, but his left
• 32:40
  on base percentage was thirty nine point six. I thought at first that was
• 32:44
  his ground ball rate on fandrafts, but that's his lob rate. So that's
• 32:49
  what's really driving that eleven fifty seven ear right right now. You can see
• 32:52
  that as his EXPIP is three seventy two. So I think that he is
• 32:57
  just normal Blake Snell and you just got to ride with it if you did
• 33:00
  pick him up. Don't play matches with playstyle. Just enjoy the fact he's
• 33:06
  on the West coast, Plug him in, go to bed, and hope
• 33:08
  for the best. All right, And we've got another number one or number
• 33:14
  two starting picture down this week, as it looks like Hazus Lozardo is out
• 33:19
  with a flexer strain. These are always really scary injuries because as I just
• 33:24
  mixed up with John, means like it's a pretty big harbinger for Tommy John
• 33:30
  surgery. And before he was even diagnosed with the flexer strain, Luzardo was
• 33:35
  originally old, you know, input on the al because of a sore elbow.
• 33:39
  So this isn't looking great for where it's going to go for Hazus Lozardo.
• 33:46
  This allows somebody who's actually he's shoving tonight, and that is a Roderie
• 33:52
  Munos. I've never even heard of him, but he has now entered the
• 33:55
  Marlin's rotation as yeah, I mean they've gotten entire rotation on the I l
• 34:02
  between Ocontra, Braxton, Garrett, Luzardo jury Perez A J. Puck.
• 34:07
  So there's still somehow managing to run starters out there in Miami. But what
• 34:14
  do you think this means for haz Use Lozardo and anybody maybe that you might
• 34:19
  be interested in Miami that's currently in the rotation or might be in the rotation
• 34:23
  from the minor leagues. Well, first of all, I'm just trying to
• 34:27
  understand Rodberie Munoz. Here is as you look at the rush resource and there's
• 34:32
  a nice little column says how was he acquired? And he was purchased.
• 34:37
  He was purchased from Pittsburgh. So, uh, that leaves lots to be
• 34:42
  desired to pittsforphs like just give me, give me by, buy me a
• 34:45
  big macmeal and a guy. But you know, yeah, I say,
• 34:51
  there's just not much interesting here. Uh. I'm I'm very worried about Luzardo.
• 34:57
  He's always been kind of injury prone guy, always been a little off
• 35:00
  kills. It's like, if he's healthy, he can be really good kind
• 35:02
  of guy. And when you go down with elbow issues and then you get
• 35:08
  diagnosed with Fletcher strain, doesn't take a rocket scientist to know those things are
• 35:14
  all connected. And I'm I'm I hate to say it, and I don't
• 35:19
  want to be naked Nancy, but I'm just waiting for the next one with
• 35:21
  Tommy John again for Jesus Lzardo. Like that's like that just is the direction
• 35:25
  of that that these go. And there's just very little information coming out,
• 35:30
  you know. I guess that there's silver lighting. I just don't don't know
• 35:34
  what the Marlins can do if Max Meyer gets back in this rotation. I'm
• 35:37
  very very excited about that because I think Max Meyers looked fantastic when he's been
• 35:42
  up, and he's got a fantastic pedigree, So I just don't know why
• 35:45
  he has not been called back up. I think maybe the Marlin's already just
• 35:50
  phoned in for the year and and taking a break. So there's my still
• 35:53
  line, I'll take Max Meyer if he if he gets back in the rotation.
• 35:58
  Yeah, And I think it's a lot. They're just really trying to
• 36:02
  taper the innings for Max Meyer because he's only pitching every seven days down in
• 36:07
  tripa A. So I really thought you were gonna say they're just trying to
• 36:09
  tank. Yeah, they're trying to just make sure that they get enough innings
• 36:15
  out of him and keep them semi healthy ish coming off of that Timmy John
• 36:19
  surgery. So that's who I was looking at too. I really think that
• 36:22
  Max Meyer is worth stashing on some benches out there as he is in the
• 36:28
  miners, because I think he should be up relatively soon, because I think
• 36:32
  they're going to try to do a little bit what they did with Uri Perez
• 36:37
  last year down to Miami, which is kind of bring Max Meyer up for
• 36:40
  a few weeks, pitch him on a normal MLB schedule, send him back
• 36:45
  down, give him more rest, and cycle through that a couple more times.
• 36:51
  Okay, well, part of the re I guess I should have paired
• 36:52
  this one up with the trist and cautious injury. But part of the reason
• 36:58
  that Boston Red Sox lineup look so dire running around the golf is that Masatak
• 37:01
  Yoshida today has also been placed on the AyL with a hand issue, and
• 37:07
  so this one should be a relatively short stint. I just kind of want
• 37:10
  to throw that out there because he's been really rough this year, and I
• 37:15
  don't know if like you are considering like I've moved on from him in the
• 37:22
  leagues that I had him either you know, trading him or trying to just
• 37:27
  find a different source of a bat because Yoshid has just been really disappointing and
• 37:34
  as the kind of resident expert on top one hundred bats, I'm wondering if
• 37:37
  you can decipher for me at all, like what is going on with Yoshida
• 37:42
  and can we have faith in him going forward when he comes back from the
• 37:45
  al Yeah. You usually, you know, as I'm doing rankings, you
• 37:50
  know, I've got i'd say about one hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty
• 37:52
  guys that I'm kind of playing around with them. There's I'm check is there
• 37:55
  anybody else that should be squeaking in or maybe playing like that? Last like
• 38:01
  he say, thirty spots the top one hundreds, like so squished together like
• 38:05
  you can, you can put anybody in there because there's a lot. It
• 38:09
  almost a hot streak. It gets, you know, raises intrigue. But
• 38:14
  for Yoshida here, like I'm I'm generally he's not generally in that one thirty
• 38:19
  even I'm talking about he just his overall profile is more about volume than it
• 38:24
  is about like being fantastic at anyone category. You know, he will he'll
• 38:30
  deliver an okay average. He's got a little power, maybe a little speed
• 38:35
  in the counting SATs are gonna be eh, especially in the lineup that we
• 38:38
  just talked about. So overall, like, I think he's an okay player,
• 38:45
  but he's more of that one of those like maybe a fourth or fifth
• 38:46
  outfielder. And if we're talking to hand injury, is that gonna Zapp something?
• 38:52
  Not the whole lot of power left to Zapp. So generally I've not
• 38:57
  been too excited about Yoshida in the first place, and you know, having
• 39:00
  a little bit more of injury here. Yeah, I think he is probably
• 39:05
  what he was last year. I think we're looking at a guy that hits
• 39:07
  maybe ten to fifteen homers, maybe stills five bases seventy RBIs. Like,
• 39:13
  it's not bad, it's not where you're like, it's not the kind of
• 39:16
  guy that you're investing in to win your league. He's the kind of guy
• 39:19
  you're investing in because you just lost Mike Trout. Yeah, that's where you're
• 39:22
  at. Yeah, I And I'm honestly like, I'm worried about Yoshida kind
• 39:27
  of his long term viability in the league too, because he's got a huge
• 39:31
  hole at the top of the zone that you can see it on his span
• 39:35
  Grafts heat maps, you can see it on a Savant page on his wiff
• 39:37
  percentage that I think he struggles a lot with velocity up in the zone,
• 39:43
  and the league is just exploiting it because that is what a lot of the
• 39:46
  league throws now, is the ninety five plus mile an hour heat at the
• 39:51
  top of the zone. And if you can't catch up to that, they're
• 39:53
  just going to keep pounding it over and over and over and until Yoshida adjusts
• 39:59
  and show that he can start handling that heat up in the top of the
• 40:01
  zone. I think he's a pretty empty batting average guy. That is probably
• 40:08
  where it becomes useful in a fifteen teamer, you know, because you need
• 40:12
  the batting average and somebody who plays every day, but not somebody you ever
• 40:16
  want to be rostering in a twelve team because he just produces such little in
• 40:23
  terms of counting stats for you when he's in your lineup. Yeah, it's
• 40:29
  when you're calling card like is late patience and that's it. Not a whole
• 40:35
  lot to the phone home. So good another good like real world player here
• 40:42
  and should be a you know, he's very good to be in the lineup
• 40:45
  for the Red Sox. There's a lot to like for a fan of the
• 40:49
  Red Sox. It's just not for the fantasy game. Yeah, Okay.
• 40:52
  The other injury that we have is Zach Geloff's second basement for the Oakland A's
• 40:57
  went down with a strained oblique and this one seems to be rather minor because
• 41:02
  he's already got a note today that he is starting to take grounders and play
• 41:07
  catch, so he might be feeling alright to be able to do that.
• 41:09
  But we'll see when he starts swinging up bad again, because that's the million
• 41:14
  dollar question with your oblique. There again, another oblique injury where we're not
• 41:19
  totally sure like where it could go, but hopefully it's pretty short. For
• 41:22
  Zach Geloff, he's been really solid. I think for what you where you
• 41:30
  drafted him coming into the year, that he's been a little bit like a
• 41:35
  right handed early Brandon low Laud. I knew it, yeah, but like,
• 41:43
  oh man, I was like say Loo, say Loo, say Low
• 41:45
  and Low came out. But I think like this type of player is kind
• 41:52
  of sneaky, useful and fantasy just because he's giving you so much power production
• 41:57
  and it's a little bit of the opposite of what we just talked about with
• 42:00
  Yoshida. And I know you've been a Gelloff fan, So what do you
• 42:05
  think that this kind of can how it will shape his twenty twenty four season
• 42:10
  going forward? Yeah, I mean, I'm right there with you, like
• 42:15
  I I liked, I think the Oakland penalty is a little bit more than
• 42:19
  what needs to be with a guy like Gelloff, you know, he he
• 42:22
  do. You know just last year he went fourteen, fourteen and sixty nine
• 42:24
  games his rookie year, and you know, he was like, well can
• 42:28
  he keep that up and kind of extrapolate a whole season. That's a thirty
• 42:30
  thirty guy. I don't think i'll's a thirty thirty guy, but he's a
• 42:34
  twenty He could be a twenty twenty guy without not without really squinting here,
• 42:37
  and he was off to that pretty well to start the season. Strikeouts were
• 42:42
  up a little bit. Luck wasn't necessarily going his way, wasn't hitting the
• 42:45
  ball incredibly hard, so things, you know, he wasn't just he wasn't
• 42:51
  like lighting the world on fire. But because he had, he helps you
• 42:53
  in the power department, in the speed department, a little bit all over.
• 42:57
  He's really really sneaky valuable. The oblique scares me to no end.
• 43:02
  To your point, taking grounders take doesn't take your oblique to take grounders?
• 43:09
  Is he throwing the grounders back like? That's why I want to know.
• 43:13
  Is he trying to turn two like that? That's where you know it really
• 43:15
  comes in. And so I he played catches well, so I don't know
• 43:20
  if he but usually when I when I say playing catch y eye and just
• 43:25
  catch catching. But hey, uh, never know how you can skew the
• 43:30
  news here. But I think he's gonna's still gonna be a little while before
• 43:35
  he comes back. And you know, I already traded him in a league
• 43:37
  that you and I are in. I flipped him pretty pretty quickly, mainly
• 43:42
  because somebody else was asking about him, like, well, hey, oblique
• 43:45
  injury scare me. It could be a month or two before it comes back
• 43:47
  if I can, if I can get something that I need. I also
• 43:51
  lost my trout the same time in that league, so I needed some outfield
• 43:54
  help. But you know, I'm not I'm not hating on get off here,
• 44:00
  but I again the oblique worries me. If you're if you're able to
• 44:04
  wait a month or so or somebody's you know, dropped him, absolutely pick
• 44:07
  him up. He will be valuable. It's just a matter. It's gonna
• 44:10
  it's gonna be probably June, mid June. Before that we feel him back
• 44:15
  full time. Yeah, definitely. Okay, Well that runs through all of
• 44:20
  the injuries, I believe. Let me just check him. Will be trade
• 44:22
  rumors one more time to see if there's there was another Tommy John injury.
• 44:28
  Toulis Patino, but he's not terribly fantasy relevant for us, so we'll get
• 44:32
  into some more fun. News says we're gonna start having more and more of
• 44:37
  these over the coming weeks. We've got call ups, and I guess this
• 44:40
  isn't quite as fun. It's called downs to emotions that are related to Actually
• 44:46
  that's what the first two are as Jackson Holiday shortstop for I guess, second
• 44:52
  basement for the Orioles has been demoted back to Triple A now after he struggled
• 44:57
  out of the gate in the Major. And really, I mean, I
• 45:01
  think if you're looking for the rest of twenty twenty four, this is probably
• 45:07
  a little bit worrisome. Considering the draft price you had to pay for Jackson
• 45:10
  Holiday. But this is part of the reason I wasn't paying that draft price
• 45:15
  for Jackson Holiday. On top of I just wasn't sure kind of where the
• 45:20
  Homers and stole On bases were gonna be. But I mean, you win
• 45:23
  some, you lose some because Jackson Curio's started pretty hot from that spot,
• 45:28
  and obviously Ellie's been fantastic. But what do you think you're doing with Jackson
• 45:32
  Holiday for the rest of twenty twenty four kind of focused on redraft leagues because
• 45:37
  I don't even think we entertained the dynasty side, because you know, it
• 45:40
  wasn't enough bight appearances to really shift the understanding of Jackson Holiday long term.
• 45:46
  Yeah, I mean, I don't think it to your point. Long term,
• 45:49
  It doesn't change my perspective on Jackson Jackson Holiday of being a you know,
• 45:52
  a great hitter down the line. But what it does concern me about
• 45:55
  is the big reason the Oriole's sent him down is they didn't really need him,
• 46:01
  like they needed the version of him that was going to be a breakout
• 46:06
  rookie and just gonna be fantastic. They didn't need him to be scuffling,
• 46:10
  and so send them back down, give them some more time there, get
• 46:15
  your super two out of them whatever, like if you're playing well. So
• 46:19
  I think it's gonna be a little while before he's back. I don't think
• 46:21
  they're just gonna send them down and then bring them right back up. I
• 46:22
  think they're gonna send them down. He's got to get hot again and then
• 46:25
  he's gonna get me come back up. So Midsummer, I wouldn't be shocked.
• 46:30
  If it's gonna be until Midsummer where he comes up, you're probably waiting
• 46:34
  for somebody to get hurt, and that would be and even then there's other
• 46:39
  guys. There's like there's a really good system there in Baltimore, Like they've
• 46:45
  got guys on the bench and sending in the miners that would be starting for
• 46:47
  other teams in that kind of that youth equation. So yeah, I'm I
• 46:52
  would assume you can find a buyer for Jackson Holliday because I think there's a
• 46:57
  buyer out there that thinks that you're selling low and he's going to be back
• 47:00
  up and just killing it, and everybody wants to find the young new guy
• 47:05
  that's gonna, you know, break out and say they've found Horden Carroll or
• 47:08
  you know whoever it may be. So yeah, I'm I'm kind of looking
• 47:13
  to move on from Jackson Holiday. Yeah, I think so too, because
• 47:15
  I mean I think at this point, honestly, Kobe Mayo probably comes up
• 47:20
  before Jackson Holliday gets another crack, because that is types of lightning in a
• 47:24
  bottle that can really carry a team. I mean, we've already seen it
• 47:28
  with Colton Kuncer that like he's done it, you know, for a couple
• 47:30
  of weeks. That if they want to do that in Baltimore now, I
• 47:35
  think they look at Kobe Mayo first and really let Jackson Holiday get his head
• 47:37
  right Hunter and Orby too. Rby's there, Aston Kyrestad, which I know
• 47:43
  I'm just gonna make a bear the lead and we're and jump to that.
• 47:46
  Aston Krestyle was called up too, And so it's not for lack of having
• 47:52
  guys that are there and willing to make an impact. So I say that,
• 47:57
  what are your thoughts on on Crestad in the same Holiday down Kerstad up?
• 48:01
  Is he does he get the playing time? I don't think so.
• 48:05
  If Colton Kowser had been or to start the season. Honestly, I had
• 48:10
  no expectations like this for Kowser coming into the not at all. So the
• 48:15
  fact, I mean he has started to scuffle that maybe that that is the
• 48:19
  way in is that I always thought long term Kirstad was the better bat than
• 48:24
  Kowser. That just a better overall profile, and Kowser has always struggled with
• 48:30
  strikeouts on top of it too, like Ryan O'Hearn has morphed into an all
• 48:36
  star level bat and just it is not going to let that opportunity go anytime
• 48:40
  soon, I think. And so yeah, I mean I don't own any
• 48:45
  kiersted sures because I am just the way you are with Jackson Holiday that I
• 48:51
  just don't see how all the playing time sorts out. And I'd rather have
• 48:55
  something steadier where I'm not having to rock some of these guys and play the
• 49:01
  hot hand and try to figure it out, because I figured it always doesn't
• 49:06
  work out well, like I figure, like it always ends up where the
• 49:09
  weeks where it looks like Kirstad's not gonna play, I'm sure he's gonna come
• 49:14
  in and like hit a couple of grand slams on my bench, But what
• 49:16
  are you doing with Heston Kirstad in any leagues that you might have him.
• 49:22
  Yeah, I mean I'm holding on to him for now. I'm just wondering,
• 49:25
  you know, we if you look that lineup up and down, there's
• 49:29
  just not a lot of space there. But I'm wondering if there's gonna be
• 49:31
  an opportunity for him to maybe you know, get a few of bats and
• 49:36
  make some noise. There's one clear week spot Romanus there. Now, I'm
• 49:43
  not sure how you shuffle guys around to get Kirstaid in the line up there.
• 49:49
  There's not a clear other you know, third basement on the team or
• 49:53
  enough enough. You have a lot of outfielders on that team. But you
• 50:00
  know, I think I'm holding him just for now. Now, if there's
• 50:02
  a Joe Adele out there, or there's somebody else, I will absolutely make
• 50:07
  that cut. But I'm giving him another week or two just to see if
• 50:09
  he squeaks in that plane time gets hot and then starts to try to stake
• 50:13
  stake his name in there. Because I hate to say it, I wouldn't
• 50:16
  be shocked if if Cedric Mullins is this is finally the time where he gets
• 50:21
  moved early summer or something like that here, because there's enough youth there,
• 50:24
  there's enough other guys coming up. But you know, to your point,
• 50:30
  Mayo or Norby getting getting called up feels imminent to me, and you know,
• 50:35
  yours dead trying to get some a spot in the outfield there maybe Mullins
• 50:37
  moves or something like that, I wouldn't be shocked. Yeah, okay,
• 50:44
  Well let's get into another top prospect that got demoted this week, and as
• 50:49
  outfielder Jordan Walker from the Cardinals getting sent down after just I'm not even sure
• 50:55
  like how to describe how he's struggling because the Cardinals set him down saying that
• 51:00
  he needs to work on hinting sliders after starting the season with a forty five
• 51:05
  WRC plus a one two nine two nine line. But I'm really starting to
• 51:14
  sour on Jordan Walker just because I don't think this is the right organization for
• 51:19
  him, just the way that you know, when honestly anybody has left the
• 51:22
  Cardinals as of late, Laine Thomas, Randy Rose, Arena, on and
• 51:29
  on and on in terms of just the players that have found their footing,
• 51:34
  because I think just Walker, it seems like a confidence thing when you're watching
• 51:38
  him in the box that he just doesn't seem to be sure of himself and
• 51:44
  like trusting in his abilities that like it's very much like armchair doctoring. But
• 51:52
  you it feels like when he's going to swing a lot, he's thinking about
• 51:58
  all the things that the coaching staff has told him and trying to like process
• 52:02
  that in the moment of the swing, and it just is too much that
• 52:07
  Like, I think it's just a bad fit in terms of organization because this
• 52:10
  is the type of player who I think just has to let himself play and
• 52:16
  just let like the tools play. And so I'm really interested in your take
• 52:22
  on this because I'm wondering if you're seeing the same thing or if you're still
• 52:27
  heartened by what Jordan Walker could be in the long term for Saint Louis.
• 52:32
  Yeah, I'm probably a little a little more rosy on than you are.
• 52:36
  I think you're make a ballot point because the Cardinals are kind of known for
• 52:39
  bringing like these baths seem like they're just going to be unbelievable, and they
• 52:43
  gets the majors and they just kind of average out right, Like Harrison Bader
• 52:47
  was amazing, amazing, the miners average out telling, Carlson was amazing in
• 52:51
  the Major you know, you know, you just keep seeing these guys that
• 52:53
  just can't seem to get over that hump when they get to the majors.
• 52:58
  From a hitting perspective, like it does feel like something with that hitting mechanism
• 53:02
  once you get to Saint Louis just isn't doing it. It's not the best
• 53:05
  ballpark to hit him by any means. But at the same time, like
• 53:08
  the like, absolutely the talent is there, Like I don't question the talents
• 53:13
  at all. He is a massive human being. He is strong, he
• 53:16
  has a very pretty swing. Like the things look good for him. What
• 53:21
  concerns me the most though, and for my favors overall outlook, even if
• 53:25
  he does go somewhere else, he's got some Yondi Diaz vibes for me,
• 53:30
  which means we don't put the ball in the air enough to take advantage of
• 53:34
  the fact that we're a massive human beings. And you know, his ground
• 53:37
  ball rate this year is fifty percent. His flyball rate's also up because he's
• 53:42
  hit no line drives at all. It's not how you want to get the
• 53:47
  fly ball right up. You should want the ground ball rate to go down
• 53:51
  and replace that with line drives. But who am I to talk from my
• 53:54
  basement, But you know, I think that talents there. I still think
• 54:00
  he can be a really, really good hitter, but he's actually has to
• 54:05
  make some adjustments. And that's where I'm a little concerned, is can that
• 54:08
  happen. I'm hopeful that he goes back down, he kind of figures things
• 54:13
  out and he comes back up. But I'm probably not buying him for the
• 54:16
  rest of the season. And I just don't that Cardinals line up like up
• 54:22
  and down. They just look lost, absolutely lost. Yeah, I mean
• 54:25
  I posted on this in my article on Saturday. They actually had that twenty
• 54:30
  seventh team, like twenty seventh rated team WRC plus offense site right now.
• 54:37
  It was just above the White Sox, the Rockies and the A's. I
• 54:43
  think. So it's not territory you want to be in. No, not
• 54:47
  generally where you want to be. And yeah, so speaking of some White
• 54:52
  Sox, that WRC might be increasing here as Tommy fam has been called up
• 54:59
  and it is Tommy Fam time now in Chicago. He led the into a
• 55:04
  sweep of the Rays over this past weekend to double their win total in the
• 55:07
  season, and has looked every bit as good as I think we were both
• 55:13
  touting all offseason. He just needed the opportunity, as in his first twenty
• 55:17
  four played appearances he has a homer, six runs with a one to seventy
• 55:23
  three WRC plus, which I mean it's twenty four plate appearances, but I
• 55:28
  mean he should be playing in the outfield or dhing every day for the White
• 55:30
  Sox and hitting second or third. So I certainly this is another reminder that
• 55:37
  if Tommy fam is still sitting out there on your waiver wire, go pick
• 55:40
  him up immediately, because I think he's viable in every league out there right
• 55:44
  now. Yeah, I'm absolutely with you. You know, I think he
• 55:47
  homewared today. I'm not sure if that was looking tood. That's if it
• 55:52
  counts. And what you what you ran to well, when you're doing twenty
• 55:55
  four flat appearances, you got to make sure you're up to the minute.
• 55:58
  But I mean, he's he's a solid for outfielder, like I probably over
• 56:05
  solid for outfielder because he he will give you a little bit all across the
• 56:07
  board. From a staff perspective, He's not gonna hurt you anywhere. And
• 56:12
  I just hope people held on long enough, like held on long enough to
• 56:16
  reap the rewards of him, because you know, it was it was just
• 56:21
  a matter of time before Fam found a job and came back and was reliable.
• 56:24
  So I'm all in, Tommy Fam. He should be free if he's
• 56:30
  still out there for you and it's gonna pay off, it's it's gonna pay
• 56:34
  off. I have no questions about it. He's been good really pretty much
• 56:37
  wherever he goes. Don't don't get me wrong. He's not gonna hit three
• 56:39
  hundred and thirty thirty, but we're talking, you know, two fifty fifteen
• 56:44
  fifteen for a guy that's free, that's that's very much a playable player.
• 56:51
  Yeah, absolutely, okay. And then also on the flip side of like
• 56:54
  a X white sock, we have jose Ah Bray You being demoted by the
• 57:00
  Astros with what a stretch of a month that was from JOSEA Bray You just
• 57:07
  absolutely struggling out of the gate with a I didn't check it recently, but
• 57:13
  let me pull back up. It's a negative like forty something. It might
• 57:16
  be negative fifty WRC plus now, oh, just negative twenty. He recovered,
• 57:21
  so it was a negative twenty WRC plus with the ninety nine, one
• 57:24
  fifty six, one thirteen line. That is so brutal, and I'm not
• 57:30
  sure. I think this might just about be the end of Jose bray You
• 57:36
  if maybe not in the league. Like I think there's a possibility he gets
• 57:40
  a little more run as like a second division sort of player on like an
• 57:44
  Oakland A's or something, But I just don't know if he has the bats
• 57:49
  speed to kind of hang in the majors anymore. The crazy thing here with
• 57:54
  a bray You two is that he got sent all the way down to the
• 57:57
  spring training complex, reminiscent of Alec Minoa's struggles last year with the Toronto Blue
• 58:01
  Jays. So that's I mean, that shows you just how down and out
• 58:05
  a bray You is. That he's going back to spring training and just hitting
• 58:09
  in the cages to grind this out with the complex league. And then the
• 58:15
  flip side here though in Houston, is that Joey Lo Braffdo is coming up
• 58:19
  and getting full time gig. We've talked about him here and praised him.
• 58:23
  This is actually another guy too when since we've discussed him, I've gotten a
• 58:28
  little bit more interested because the strikeout rate had worried me down in Triple A
• 58:32
  this year, but I had forgotten about that automated zone, which I think
• 58:37
  was playing into that a little bit. And so low Braffito should be playable
• 58:42
  in just about every league right now, just because you've got to take the
• 58:45
  shot on the upside there right group. Yeah, absolutely, I'm I'm very
• 58:49
  excited about Joey low Perfido. I was. I've been on for quite some
• 58:52
  time now, and I think there is just a lot, a lot of
• 58:57
  potential there in the power. It's sad for jose O Brew. I think
• 59:00
  you're right. I don't know what we have the Mendoza line, what's the
• 59:04
  what's one hundred? Like when you're hitting below one hundred? Like, is
• 59:07
  that a thing? Do we have a name for that? When you're when
• 59:10
  you're when you're ops is like an awful obp. Yeah, Like so I
• 59:15
  feel bad because jose Brew, like for for probably five six seven years,
• 59:20
  like he was just locking in, great player, great guy, Like there's
• 59:25
  a lot to like this. So this this is this is disheartening for a
• 59:30
  Brew. But obviously I'm a little biased, but I think he should be
• 59:31
  a Hall of Famer because like he came over when he was twenty seven.
• 59:36
  If you gave him credit for all of his work in Cuba, he won
• 59:39
  an MVP. I mean, I think he he deserves to be a Hall
• 59:45
  of Famer once you kind of roll in the Cuban stats because he played started
• 59:49
  playing when he's super young in the professional league SOUN in Cuba. Yeah,
• 59:52
  if you look at it, like he has such that eight years since coming
• 59:57
  over starting age twenty seven, where he was basically a thirty home run one
• 1:00:00
  hundred RBI guy hitting two ninety three hundred, like outside of like one injury
• 1:00:08
  in COVID, Like, you know, he's he's definitely a fantastic player because
• 1:00:15
  if he was having this, you know at thirty seven, after he came
• 1:00:17
  up at he was twenty one, so add like six seasons to this on
• 1:00:22
  the front end of just call it twenty five homers. You know, we're
• 1:00:27
  talking about a guy that's hit four hundred homers. Like, yeah, you're
• 1:00:30
  you're right. It's it's a I don't think you're gonna be right, but
• 1:00:36
  but I think it's a very fantastic argument. But back on Loper Fito,
• 1:00:39
  I think he's got all day playing time, and you know, he looks
• 1:00:45
  like he's gonna he canna be up for good. Uh So, I've I've
• 1:00:49
  definitely picked up Loper Fito many places, and I'm I'm pluging him in the
• 1:00:53
  line up here and there still trying to figure out he does have second base
• 1:00:55
  eligibility a number of places as well. Uh so first base, second base,
• 1:01:00
  outfield eligibilities. That's just icing on the cake with Loper Fiedo. Yeah,
• 1:01:05
  and should pick up first too. He didn't quite he didn't quite get
• 1:01:08
  enough games down there at first base to start qualifying for this year. But
• 1:01:15
  you would think that he's gonna start getting playing time at first as they're currently
• 1:01:19
  playing John Singleton there and he's soon although he's actually been holding his own which
• 1:01:24
  has been a really great story as well. So and I even suggested picking
• 1:01:30
  up Jonathan John Singleton in really really deep leagues, you know, like only
• 1:01:35
  leagues. But it does look like he's got a path to playing time here
• 1:01:37
  for a little while along with Loper Fetal. Okay, the next call up
• 1:01:43
  that we've got is one that really tickles me because I've been excited for this
• 1:01:47
  guy since last year when he started stealing so many bags. That is Tyler
• 1:01:52
  Black for the Milwaukee Brewers currently qualifies at third base, but should get playing
• 1:02:00
  time kind of all over at the diamond. He's played in corner outfield spots,
• 1:02:04
  first base, second base in his time in the minors. I think
• 1:02:07
  currently it looks like the Brewers are gonna put him more so at first base.
• 1:02:13
  So they's been pushing reet Hoskins towards dhing and then you know they'll let
• 1:02:17
  Tyler Black slowly but surely push Jake Bowers out of the nest there at first
• 1:02:23
  base, I think. And so I think Tyler Black also makes a very
• 1:02:28
  interesting player for our playerpool, given there aren't many speed first corner guys in
• 1:02:34
  our player pool right now. So, brew how are you treating Tyler Black
• 1:02:37
  going forward? I's Tyler Black's really hard for me because there's there's not like
• 1:02:44
  if you watch him, there's nothing that jumps off the page, like it
• 1:02:47
  doesn't doesn't have this big crazy pedigree, like there's nothing. Tyler Black's just
• 1:02:52
  Tyler Black. He's a third round pick, like so you know he's he's
• 1:02:57
  decent, but like he just does everything just above average or maybe slightly with
• 1:03:04
  the speed, and so like I try to poke holes looking at his minor
• 1:03:07
  league approach. And we're talking about a guy that walks as much as he
• 1:03:10
  strikes out. You know, he's he's got real power, Like he's not
• 1:03:15
  crazy power, but maybe twenty homer power. Maybe maybe give a few years
• 1:03:22
  before that really clicks in. But he's done, you know, some some
• 1:03:27
  decent power. He's always hit for a pretty good average, Like you look
• 1:03:30
  across, it's just things just keep looking good. Like I'm having to couple
• 1:03:36
  poking holes in Tyler Black, and he's he's never really seemed to struggle either
• 1:03:39
  in the minors. He just seems that whatever he's gone, he's done well
• 1:03:44
  since he was a you know, since he entered the league, you know,
• 1:03:46
  as as a twenty year old, he's held his own. So I
• 1:03:51
  really like Tyler Black. I don't I don't think he gets the fanfare he
• 1:03:54
  deserves. And I also think he doesn't have a clear spot. But I
• 1:03:59
  think he's gonna every day so that, like again, he might have better
• 1:04:02
  you know, eligibility. So I like I like Black. I'm uh,
• 1:04:08
  yeah, it's gonna be fun, fun to watch a cool day of cool
• 1:04:11
  these days here with call ups. Yeah, And I think I also like
• 1:04:15
  Black too, just because I don't get the projections on him where they're all
• 1:04:19
  calling for like a two forty average. He's spent all last year in the
• 1:04:24
  miners hovering around three hundred. He was around three hundred in Triple A this
• 1:04:28
  year. Uh, they're all calling for him to strike out around twenty percent
• 1:04:31
  of the time, which I guess he did down in double A, but
• 1:04:33
  he cut that in Triple A. He's got great just plate discipline, which
• 1:04:39
  is like you said, I don't think he's got world kind of like breaking
• 1:04:44
  power, but he makes so much contact that the balls are going to kind
• 1:04:47
  of find their way into the right field bleachers, I think from time to
• 1:04:51
  time. And I mean certainly the upside here is that he steals something like
• 1:04:57
  twenty twenty five bags and maybe even more. Weren't that Like it's tough to
• 1:05:00
  sometimes get to read on how the stolen bases will port across from the minor
• 1:05:05
  leagues, But yeah, I think he's going to be extremely useful in I
• 1:05:12
  think maybe I'm not quite picking him up in like twelve teamers right now,
• 1:05:15
  but like certainly knowing that if I'm looking for stolen bases, he hit cleanup
• 1:05:20
  for the Brewers today. Or yesterday in his debut. So you're looking at
• 1:05:25
  somebody who's slotted right into the top of that lineup in Milwaukee, I will
• 1:05:30
  say, I am picking up in twelve teamers. Twelve teamers, yeah,
• 1:05:33
  you know, eligibility wise, I'm looking at, yeah, who he's he's
• 1:05:36
  got second and third base eligibility, he should pick up first base to your
• 1:05:41
  point. And you know, so I think that you know, that flexibility
• 1:05:46
  plus what to me looks like a good floor is a guy that I'm picking
• 1:05:51
  up. I maybe in weekly leagues, I might be a little bit more
• 1:05:55
  hesitant, uh, just because I could see him, you know, not
• 1:05:59
  having a clutter locked in the spot where he plays every day. But it
• 1:06:03
  feels like the super utility type thing might be his his calling hard to start
• 1:06:08
  until he really pushes Hoskins or somebody else out of the way. But yeah,
• 1:06:11
  I'm investing them even in twelve teamers. Okay, yeah, I think
• 1:06:15
  that's fair too. And another call up we've got that. I honestly,
• 1:06:19
  I'm a little surprised by this one that the Rockies have come through for us
• 1:06:24
  and they've called up Jordan Beck to play the outfield for them with Nolan Jones
• 1:06:28
  hitting the eel. We didn't cover Nolan Jones and the injuries just because what
• 1:06:32
  a disappointment. If you do have Nolan Jones that, like you want to
• 1:06:35
  talk maybe most disappointing fantasy players so far this year. I think Nolan Jones
• 1:06:42
  is in the conversation for that. But I do think a lot of the
• 1:06:46
  poor performance was him battling a back injury and trying to play through it.
• 1:06:50
  So I am hoping that if I have Nolan Jones, there are a few
• 1:06:55
  like shallow leagues where I've actually moved on from him. But you know,
• 1:06:58
  if you've invested some amount of draft capital in twelve teamers for him, I
• 1:07:03
  think that he's still worth holding on too if you've got the iel spots.
• 1:07:08
  But certainly, like yeah, if you're desperate for just a warm body,
• 1:07:12
  I totally understand if you've got to move on from Nolan Jones. And what
• 1:07:15
  about like swapping straight in for Jordan Beck. Do you think that you are
• 1:07:19
  moving in to Jordan Beck maybe the same way we've talked about these other guys
• 1:07:24
  are maybe a little more caution what Jordan Beck is to Beck's profile. Yeah,
• 1:07:29
  I'm moving right in as well. Okay, Jordan Beck. I all
• 1:07:33
  three of these guys really intrigued me. None of them are like the upper
• 1:07:38
  echelon prospects, but they're all guys that absolutely could be I stay top center
• 1:07:45
  position when you get the outfield, little questionable there, but like pure starter,
• 1:07:50
  clear middle, the roads, starter, kind of cornerstone of your team.
• 1:07:56
  And so I'm picking back up as well. I'm especially with that Colorado
• 1:08:00
  air. Hopefully, you know, there's something to be said. He's looked
• 1:08:03
  great this this year at Triple A. He's there. You know. I
• 1:08:08
  was looking at the leader boards of prospects, looking at guys like twenty five
• 1:08:12
  and under, and there was four guys the miners this year five home runs
• 1:08:16
  and five steals Joeylo Berfido, Jordan Beck. Then you had no Casey Schmidt
• 1:08:26
  out in San Francisco, who's kind of his prospect star has has faded a
• 1:08:31
  little bit, said Costague will do that for you too. It will Colby
• 1:08:35
  Thomas out for the Athletics. He's a third round pick who's really looked really
• 1:08:41
  good for the Athletics over the last few years, and he's all the way
• 1:08:44
  up in Double A. So just a quick call out to the guy to
• 1:08:46
  maybe keep an eye on that's kind of under the radar. Cole Colby Thomas
• 1:08:50
  for the twenty three for the Athletics would not be surprised to see him get
• 1:08:56
  a look later this year for the Athletics with a pretty well rounded profile.
• 1:09:00
  So siphoning Beck Beck and Low Braffito's look look great, and so both of
• 1:09:06
  them I'm excited about. So I've expoused a lot, a whole lot of
• 1:09:12
  all three of these guys. What's your if you were to rank these three,
• 1:09:15
  what would that look like for you? Between Low, Braffito, Black
• 1:09:18
  and beck Yep, I think that sounds like a law firm, by the
• 1:09:24
  way, and I think, I know this just goes against what I said
• 1:09:32
  where I was like picking up Lowprafito everywhere, but maybe not Black. But
• 1:09:36
  I think I go Black, Low Perfito Beck, because yeah, I do
• 1:09:42
  think that Black has the best kind of chance at turning into something special,
• 1:09:49
  especially with the stolen bases and just given where he's hitting in that Milwaukee lineup
• 1:09:55
  that's been fantastic. H Low Braffido and the Astros. The Astros have been
• 1:10:00
  struggling a bit, and that Rockies offense, Like I keep falling for it,
• 1:10:04
  like it's definitely like a wily coyote sort of thing with them going to
• 1:10:09
  Coors all the time. I mean, this past week it was brutal for
• 1:10:12
  some of those dudes that if you were following my waiver wires and trying to
• 1:10:15
  stream those Rockies bats, they didn't do so hot in Coors or in Mexico
• 1:10:19
  City because the team is just bad. And so that does make me worry
• 1:10:26
  a little bit about Beck and just kind of honestly a lot of those Rockies
• 1:10:29
  out there that it used to be a viable strategy to just kind of stream
• 1:10:31
  them at home, that the offense is so poor right now that it's becoming
• 1:10:38
  hard to do that. What about you? What's your order? Yeah,
• 1:10:41
  I'm not I mean, how can you beat that different with three guys?
• 1:10:44
  I'm not too different. I'm probably a low perfido black Beck. You know,
• 1:10:47
  I kind of kind of the order I stated them, But again I
• 1:10:51
  don't argue with what what you said. I think the I see a little
• 1:10:55
  higher ceiling for Lowperfiito a little faster than I do for Black. I think
• 1:10:59
  long time you could see that flip where low braffedo caps out because he's the
• 1:11:03
  speed, isn't I don't think he's going to translate as well. And Black
• 1:11:08
  has much more speed, and so low Berfedo might pop out at a twenty
• 1:11:13
  five fifteen type guy, whereas Black might top out a twenty forty type guy.
• 1:11:17
  Like there's you know, but again, I'm really excited about all three
• 1:11:23
  of these guys. A number of spots I've grabbed one, two or three
• 1:11:27
  of them and made some some tough cuts to do so. But this is
• 1:11:32
  these are the kind of guys that I absolutely in especially April May timeframe,
• 1:11:36
  I will pay extra fab for him. I'll I'll drop an extra guy for
• 1:11:42
  him, because I would be shocked we're sending it in the season. One
• 1:11:45
  of these guys is in the conversation for a Rookie of the Year. Two
• 1:11:48
  of these guys are in the top threes of those like. These kind of
• 1:11:53
  guys are the ones that you end up talking about next year's is absolutely slam
• 1:11:57
  dunk keepers. So I think like a Matt McClay from last year ignored the
• 1:12:00
  injury this year, That's what I feel like with these guys. I think,
• 1:12:04
  yeah, I mean, I think a lot of them have a lot
• 1:12:06
  of great pedigree and of kind of flowner the radar that these are the types
• 1:12:11
  of guys that when they start coming up in call up season, like they
• 1:12:14
  can really run the table for you the rest of the season, for even
• 1:12:17
  redraft leagues, not even with the keypro element, because they can just catch
• 1:12:24
  fire and stick with their teams, especially just given what aging curves look like.
• 1:12:29
  Contes that players seem to only be best almost like right when they hit
• 1:12:34
  the league half the times, just because yeah, all your physical skills are
• 1:12:39
  there and they kind of degrade from there because time only moves one way.
• 1:12:45
  All right, We've got one last call up and mostly because this is kind
• 1:12:47
  of a little bit of like a personal cheeseball guy that I love Asid Barger
• 1:12:51
  from the Toronto Blue Jays. He's getting an opportunity with Kevin Kiermyer hitting the
• 1:12:56
  injured list in Toronto, but he's been struggling right now. He only is
• 1:13:02
  really really struggling as he's over eighteen now or one for eighteen now with six
• 1:13:08
  k's that amounts to an oh fifty six, oh fifty six, oh fifty
• 1:13:12
  six line. As he's really just been very over anxious, I think with
• 1:13:18
  its opportunity in Toronto. And I love Barger just because I saw him in
• 1:13:23
  spring training. He's got spencer strider like thighs like, he's got the craziest
• 1:13:28
  quads I've ever seen on a actual like position player. And he's got great
• 1:13:34
  flexibility, which I think helps the Blue Jays that he can play the infield,
• 1:13:39
  he can play corner outfield. And this is a guy who was absolutely
• 1:13:43
  crushing triple A before he came up. He had a one sixty three WRC
• 1:13:45
  plus and just has a really sweet swing. So I'm just kind of throwing
• 1:13:50
  him out there that I know that he's struggled out the gate, but this
• 1:13:55
  could certainly be somebody who sticks in Toronto because another team, honestly, like
• 1:14:00
  the Cardinals, where the bats on the paper have not come to fruition and
• 1:14:04
  if they need to go a different route, I think Barger is gonna be
• 1:14:08
  the first person who gets that opportunity in Toronto. Yeah, you know,
• 1:14:13
  I don't I wouldn't say I'm very high on Barger, but I don't have
• 1:14:15
  a lot of negative to say either, Like he's those guys that doesn't excite
• 1:14:18
  me, doesn't scare me. He's definitely on the watch list is the way
• 1:14:23
  I would say I'm not I'm not rushing out to pick up barjar in probably
• 1:14:27
  even fourteen team leagues. I'm probably not doing anything there. Maybe Dynasty,
• 1:14:31
  I might if I'm throwing a bone, then if I got you know,
• 1:14:35
  a sixty day aisle spot opening something up, But otherwise I'm probably watching him,
• 1:14:40
  and with the current results, I think you can continue to watch him.
• 1:14:44
  Yeah, I don't think the next seven hits is gonna really do anything
• 1:14:48
  to him. He's got to get really hot before he really makes a name.
• 1:14:53
  But if he starts to say, make some good contact stuff like that,
• 1:14:56
  yeah, take a look. Yeah, he's got to cut down.
• 1:15:00
  Swing percentage right now is fifty seven percent, so you need to cut out
• 1:15:03
  on not getting on base. So yeah, yeah, when you're swinging at
• 1:15:09
  the pitches out of the zone, fifty seven percent not gonna do much for
• 1:15:14
  you. But okay, Yeah, we've got a couple more card topics before
• 1:15:17
  we hit a brake and then come back and talk Bowman twenty twenty four.
• 1:15:21
  The first is they dropped tops dropped this out of kind of nowhere, And
• 1:15:29
  I will admit that when I saw this release announcement, last week for Tops
• 1:15:33
  Heritage twenty twenty four mini. I thought it was just like a new type
• 1:15:38
  of like box in terms of the way that they had the small hobby boxes
• 1:15:44
  for twenty twenty three Stadium Club, you know, with just like the one
• 1:15:46
  hit. I thought that they had somehow made some smaller version of the hobby
• 1:15:50
  box for TOPS Heritage, but no, Tops went out and produced an entire
• 1:15:55
  mini set of twenty twenty four Tops Heritage and that was released today with some
• 1:16:02
  extra parallels, some like pink one of one parallels, and they look goofy.
• 1:16:06
  I like them. I mean, I think I'll enjoy like looking at
• 1:16:10
  them. I've never been too huge into like mini cards overall, just because
• 1:16:14
  they're a little bit of a pain to store. But Brewer, what do
• 1:16:18
  you think about this Tops Trritage Mini twenty twenty four release. I'm torn about
• 1:16:24
  it. Like to your point, the mini cards just don't do it for
• 1:16:26
  me. It feels so watered down. The sets are very small. So
• 1:16:30
  like I think in each each box, I think you said guaranteed three numbered
• 1:16:35
  cards, and I think we're talking about like a fifty dollars price point,
• 1:16:39
  So that part actually intrigues me, Like it's it's accessible, you're guaranteed some
• 1:16:44
  hits, Like there's a lot to like there. But I look at the
• 1:16:46
  other side and the number of times like I have almost bought a mini card
• 1:16:51
  by mistake because you're like on eBay, and like they look the exact same
• 1:16:56
  because you just zoom in differently when they take it. I was looking the
• 1:16:59
  other day on a printing plate of of a PC player of mine, and
• 1:17:03
  I was like, man, I get two printing plates of his first Bowman
• 1:17:06
  for like seventy bucks each, So like, why don't I do this?
• 1:17:11
  I look like they're minis, Like I'm like, I didn't know we had
• 1:17:14
  printing plates of minis. Like no, not only their printing paids of plates
• 1:17:18
  of pain to store mini printing plates is even worse. And so I'm very
• 1:17:23
  torn by the product. I like it, I like the creativity with it,
• 1:17:26
  but probably not something we're all spend much time at all. Yeah,
• 1:17:30
  I agree, and it if it wasn't, honestly for the nineteen to seventy
• 1:17:33
  five design on the minis, I think they would be just not quite as
• 1:17:39
  fun. I do enjoy the like the fantastical albument of seeing some of the
• 1:17:43
  the rippings I've been seeing in some of the postings with like these little mini
• 1:17:47
  clown colored cards that people are holding because of the seventy five design. So
• 1:17:50
  I'm looking forward to seeing them in the wild, but certainly not something I'll
• 1:17:54
  be opening myself either. And then yeah, back to the rest of the
• 1:17:59
  release set. Obviously, we've got Bowman coming out on May eighth, We've
• 1:18:03
  got another new edition, and twenty twenty three is not dead, my friend.
• 1:18:08
  It is a zombie in the card cat in the card collecting world will
• 1:18:13
  never die. As we have twenty twenty three Tops Chrome Platinum Anniversary coming out
• 1:18:16
  on May twenty second, so that gives you a chance to get a Corbyn
• 1:18:20
  Carrol in that Platinum Anniversary chrome design. I think they they've been looking pretty
• 1:18:28
  slick that they when they originally started like this release a couple of years ago,
• 1:18:33
  I was a little down on the Platinum Anniversary chromes, but as I
• 1:18:39
  see more and more of them, they they're fun, like, they are
• 1:18:42
  cool cards, and I enjoy ripping like some of them when I get my
• 1:18:46
  hands on them. But also they make great PC editions just because they do
• 1:18:51
  add a little bit of like a different element you don't see too many throwback
• 1:18:56
  designs in chrome very much. Yeah, it's and I'm very love hate with
• 1:19:01
  with anniversary. I I'm not a big collector of Hall of Fame players on
• 1:19:08
  modern cards. There's just something about it to me, like I want their
• 1:19:12
  their cards. I want the cards from when they played, and I really
• 1:19:15
  struggle with it, and that the you know, Platinum Aniversary is very much
• 1:19:18
  a mixture of those of modern versus uh, you know, your players of
• 1:19:24
  yesteryear, and so that that does derive from me. I do like the
• 1:19:29
  design this year a lot better than what we've seen in the past, and
• 1:19:32
  so that that is exciting. You know. There is also the look I
• 1:19:38
  think there's the kind of the fake signatures on these ones again which we've talked
• 1:19:43
  about on the show, and just waiting for all these people trying to sell
• 1:19:46
  all these autographed cards, uh coming coming down the pipes. So yeah,
• 1:19:51
  I think it's a fun It's a fun one. It's not something I would
• 1:19:55
  probably be ripping or anything like that, but definitely something to keep an eye
• 1:19:59
  on because they are kind of fun. There's some really cool parallels as they
• 1:20:03
  go through with a lot of the toll cream white number of different wave refractors,
• 1:20:12
  the many diamond refractors, so there's some really cool I didn't even have
• 1:20:15
  a lava refractors, but I think those are pretty rare, very cool finishes
• 1:20:19
  on these cards, which we can do with chrome. So there's something to
• 1:20:23
  like there. But beyond that, I'm probably sticking away. Yeah, okay,
• 1:20:28
  And we also got Series two put on the calendar as that will be
• 1:20:34
  released on June twelfth, is currently the date. I'm looking right now that
• 1:20:42
  maybe they're also already kind of building in a little bit of a wiggle room,
• 1:20:45
  because if you remember the Easter parallels from series one, it's more of
• 1:20:50
  like a summer slash Fourth of July parallel theme with hot Dog, Statue of
• 1:20:56
  Liberty, umbrellas, suns, fireworks waves. But yeah, we will have
• 1:21:00
  Series two coming at us pretty soon, just a month and a half.
• 1:21:04
  Massive mist on tops summer Sausage parallels. They just didn't know it was coming.
• 1:21:12
  Yeah, maybe they gotta get back to the printing presses get those out
• 1:21:15
  there, just maybe maybe only on Twins cards, like what they did with
• 1:21:17
  the Kevin Hart on the Phillies cards. They just put like the summer Sausage
• 1:21:21
  on twins cards special SSP Summer Sausage. Yeah, SSPs Summer sausage super short
• 1:21:30
  for it parallels. Oh geez, Okay, you're buying. Okay, B
• 1:21:35
  guy might have to go second, you're buying you get me over here?
• 1:21:38
  Yeah, okay, all right, Well with that, we will take a
• 1:21:42
  short break and we'll be back to discuss twenty twenty four Bowmen after that.
• 1:21:46
  Stick around, hello and welcome back as we get into an overview of twenty
• 1:22:08
  twenty four Bowmen paper. So this is a I mean, it's not technically
• 1:22:15
  a flagship product, but I consider it kind of a tent pole flagship product
• 1:22:18
  for tops. Overall is Bowman goes back to the nineteen fifties and especially has
• 1:22:24
  been known for its prospects and inclusion of those prospects as their up and coming.
• 1:22:30
  But this year, again obviously we have the base one hundred card check
• 1:22:34
  list before we get into those prospect inserts. Again, a pretty standard,
• 1:22:41
  I would say design for Bowman this year. If anything, it's kind of
• 1:22:45
  classic. It almost like hearkens back to like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen ish
• 1:22:50
  Bowman's And this is actually I think one of the first designs has come out
• 1:22:55
  in some of these newer releases that I'm on board with. I approve of
• 1:22:59
  this design for twenty twenty four Bowmen. It feels like Bowman to me,
• 1:23:02
  and I'm looking forward to finding it. It should be wherever you find baseball
• 1:23:06
  cards because that it is released a lot like the top splagship products, you
• 1:23:12
  know, Series one, Series two update, where Bowman should be on shelves
• 1:23:15
  and all your retail stores, you know, Target, Walmart, Myers,
• 1:23:20
  but also you'll have all your hobby versions at your hobby stores. So you've
• 1:23:25
  got all sorts of choices between fat packs, loose retail packs, retail boxes,
• 1:23:30
  blaster boxes, megaboxes, hobby boxes, hobby jumbo boxes, so you've
• 1:23:39
  got lots of different ways to approach ripping Bowman. And I know this is
• 1:23:44
  a favorite of yours every year, brew So what are you going to do
• 1:23:46
  this year in terms of how you're going to approach opening some of this product?
• 1:23:50
  Yeah, I think I'm I'm going to probably look more retail, see
• 1:23:57
  what I can do, maybe more of the blaster of things. The price
• 1:24:00
  point, it's it's up there, Bowman. It's I feel like it's actually
• 1:24:04
  down from last year or so but that's not sane much when you're talking about
• 1:24:10
  five hundred bucks for a jumbo. So I do to your point. I
• 1:24:14
  think the design it's kind of like a twenty eighteen twenty nineteen mash up to
• 1:24:16
  a degree, like with some of those MYOCD loves the clear you know corners
• 1:24:26
  here, like these cards, like if they're not centered, it's gonna be
• 1:24:29
  so obvious that the way that they've got these designed. But I do really
• 1:24:33
  like that. But yeah, I'll probably be looking more to just to rip
• 1:24:36
  a few, just because I think the design is really cool. Really,
• 1:24:40
  whatever I can get my hands on first is probably the approach, especially with
• 1:24:43
  Bowman Bowen first, especially with your big names, Like I remember when we
• 1:24:48
  had Ellie. Ellie came out and when you got his Bowman and you're able
• 1:24:53
  to rip those like those cards were more valuable the day after you ripped than
• 1:24:57
  they are when he got called up or he's doing what he's doing now,
• 1:25:00
  right, and so the prospecting value is so significant right when these cards come
• 1:25:06
  out, and then it does peter off pretty quickly. So I think some
• 1:25:10
  of the big names here will be fun to go searching for. Yeah,
• 1:25:14
  and I also leave in the show notes, I found a nice little checklist
• 1:25:17
  of all of the Bowmen first that are in twenty twenty four Bowmen here,
• 1:25:20
  Because if you recall our preview of twenty twenty three Bowman Draft in the Fall,
• 1:25:27
  the way that the draft product works is that the number one overall pick
• 1:25:30
  from that draft is always in the subsequent draft product, as well as a
• 1:25:35
  good smattering of those other picks, but the second round or the number two
• 1:25:41
  overall pick is always in the subsequent Bowman set. So for twenty twenty four,
• 1:25:45
  that means the Bowman first for Dylan Cruz is included in all these sets,
• 1:25:50
  which obviously is driving those prices a little bit. But like you said,
• 1:25:55
  I think we also covered this when the pre orders for Bowman came out
• 1:25:58
  that it was absurd that two hundred and sixty dollars for a hobby box that
• 1:26:02
  only guarantees you one hit one autograph. And once you see like the Bowman
• 1:26:10
  checklist for autographs, it's a pretty standard Bowman checklist because you have obviously like
• 1:26:15
  the dudes like Dylan Cruz and Yoshinoba Yamamoto and other hot rookies, but you've
• 1:26:21
  also got depth arms like just guys who are never gonna sniff the major leagues
• 1:26:28
  because it is a prospect heavy product. So you've got a lot of those
• 1:26:31
  types of really fringe guys who are never even gonna maybe even make it past
• 1:26:36
  like High A or Double A included in this product. So it's really tough
• 1:26:41
  to swallow if you're buying a two or sixty dollars hobby box with one hit
• 1:26:45
  and you're getting one of those really fringe relief arms jumbo boxes if you want
• 1:26:48
  three hits are five hundred bucks on the pre order. So we'll see where
• 1:26:53
  they settle next week when the product releases in terms of the secondary market,
• 1:26:58
  but you've got to think that people are gonna be looking to recoup some of
• 1:27:00
  that money. So I think the prices are going to settle right around the
• 1:27:03
  pre order because that's the way most products have been working as as a plate,
• 1:27:08
  Yeah, I think so. I think this this is going to be
• 1:27:10
  really a breaker's Delight and type products not to confuse with I think they actually
• 1:27:13
  name some things breakers Delight, But I think this really is going to be
• 1:27:17
  one of those products that if you want to get into it, really go
• 1:27:19
  after your favorite players or think something like that. That's probably the way to
• 1:27:24
  go if you're looking for a certain guy, especially for a lot of collectors
• 1:27:30
  there that like see that the first draft pick of their team, like from
• 1:27:32
  that first rounder, and they want to go after that guy. You're probably
• 1:27:36
  best off going after some breaks and things like that to keep your keep it
• 1:27:41
  reasonable, because you know you can bowm in especially get them some massive breaks
• 1:27:45
  like I have seen where they're breaking like fifty cases of players and you can
• 1:27:51
  buy one player for fifty cases and to your point like it. You know
• 1:27:55
  that's painful. But when you're going through cases and especially jumbos, now you're
• 1:28:00
  talking hundreds of autographs, like you got a much better chance at going after
• 1:28:05
  something. Get a little bit that rainbow started. There's just a few different
• 1:28:10
  variations this year, so well, there's there's definitely some some guys like for
• 1:28:15
  you, who's is cru Is Dylan Cruz the the guy in this one?
• 1:28:20
  Is there anybody else that really has you excited from a prospect perspective? Yeah,
• 1:28:26
  I mean Walker Jenksins is also going to be in this product with his
• 1:28:29
  first card in terms of both the base paper, the chrome and then all
• 1:28:33
  the parallels and autographs and everything like that. So I think lots of people
• 1:28:38
  are really excited for Walker Jenkins because there's lots of prospectors out there that are
• 1:28:42
  real big into high schoolers especially. I mean, it's a very risky pool
• 1:28:46
  to play in. But for me, far and away, Dylan Cruz is
• 1:28:49
  the guy that you're looking to get. And his card also looks kind of
• 1:28:54
  goofy. He's got like his little goofy mustache on it, and they did
• 1:28:58
  do a pretty good photo shot job with it too, so like compared to
• 1:29:01
  some of the other ones that you sometimes see in the Bowman Prospects products,
• 1:29:06
  like, it's a it's a believable photo shop. So yeah, don't look
• 1:29:11
  at the George Lane Lombard like it's it's like like somebody drew the jersey on
• 1:29:17
  it is just this is bad. Yeah, it reminds me of you know,
• 1:29:20
  those like like those sticker books with like the the clothing like where you
• 1:29:26
  like, that's what it looks like. It The Lombard card is really really
• 1:29:30
  tough. But yeah, you've also got lots of other prospects from last year's
• 1:29:34
  draft. In terms of Brock Wilcan from the Milwaukee Brewers, You've got Aiden
• 1:29:39
  Miller from the Phillies. I'm really high on this guy, actually, uh,
• 1:29:43
  And I want to get your opinion on him, because I can't tell
• 1:29:45
  if like I'm just too high on him. It's our June Nimala. I
• 1:29:49
  think it's how you pronounce it. For the Toronto Blue Jays. They picked
• 1:29:54
  him last year as a shortstop in the draft and he was only seventeen when
• 1:29:58
  he was in the draft. He is of Indian like descent, and so
• 1:30:02
  I think he'd be like one of the first players in the league that comes
• 1:30:06
  from that background. And he just looks like a peer athlete that like it's
• 1:30:12
  a type of guy where the skills are so raw you don't know where the
• 1:30:16
  ceiling or where the floor is. But I've been starting to really enjoy like
• 1:30:21
  all the scatting reports that I've seen on Nimala. What do you know much
• 1:30:26
  about him and what's your opinion of him? Yeah, I don't know much
• 1:30:30
  about him. He's one of those that it's the guy you're trying to project,
• 1:30:33
  you know. I've seen reports that say he's you know, he's one
• 1:30:39
  of those guys that in one or two years it's gonna be a top one
• 1:30:43
  hundred prospect. It's just like he's got to fill out, like he's gotta
• 1:30:46
  still he's a high school age like he's a high school guy, but he's
• 1:30:50
  just really really projectable with just tons of tools. And so I think that's
• 1:30:56
  that's what you have to like about the guys. But that's also what blakes
• 1:30:59
  Bowman so interesting is this guy is so far away from the majors and it's
• 1:31:03
  gonna take you three four years for him to really make that impact. But
• 1:31:10
  you can go after him and then or forget about him and go back a
• 1:31:15
  few years later and you have something really exciting. So he's one of those
• 1:31:19
  guys that it is fun because of the hide product. Yeah, and then
• 1:31:24
  you've also got Kyle Teel from last year's draft with his first All these guys
• 1:31:29
  I've been listening, it's all there first, so it's kind of like their
• 1:31:32
  rookie card that you're going to be chasing. And then on top of that,
• 1:31:35
  you've also got real rookies in terms of this is the first kind of
• 1:31:40
  non strange parallel set with a Yoshinobu Yamamoto card, So I think that's gonna
• 1:31:45
  be a pretty big collector's item. Same thing with John cole Lee from San
• 1:31:49
  Francisco, first rookie card there and with we were just talking about earlier.
• 1:31:56
  Pete Crow, Armstrong PCA and Jordan Lawler also have keys in the one hundred
• 1:32:01
  card Bowman set, So lots of really fun players that are also going to
• 1:32:08
  because of that. This is again Bowman's pretty much like this every year.
• 1:32:14
  Now is that like once you get your hands on some too, you've got
• 1:32:16
  to open it and get your money out of it within the next like two
• 1:32:21
  weeks in terms of getting it up on eBay. While some of these first
• 1:32:26
  and rookie cards have a little bit of value in the secondary market because we
• 1:32:30
  haven't gotten the production stats yet. I've checked, we're kind of a week
• 1:32:33
  early that hopefully we can discuss it next week that our favorite Twitter account tops
• 1:32:40
  Production BB will have those stats. But you have to imagine that this is
• 1:32:43
  a pretty heavily printed set as once again, I mean, it's just your
• 1:32:47
  classic kind of Bowman paper where it is a little flimsier than your standard flagship.
• 1:32:51
  So yeah, what are you doing with maybe some of these other rookie
• 1:32:58
  cards and anyone else that you might be ac about. We haven't talked about
• 1:33:00
  Broup. Yeah, I mean the guys you mentioned the one that really there's
• 1:33:04
  two this step to jump out to me Kyle Teal. I'm really excited about
• 1:33:08
  Kyle Teal out of Boston. I think he's it was a fast moving catcher.
• 1:33:12
  He's already at double A and he's also one of those ones that is
• 1:33:15
  the market he goes into. From a card perspective, going to Boston,
• 1:33:19
  I think they're begging for the catcher to make make an impact there. Since
• 1:33:26
  Jason Vertek, you haven't had like somebody that has locked that down, and
• 1:33:30
  so I think they're they're begging for a lot there. The other thing is
• 1:33:33
  really interesting you mentioned Yamamoto, Like this Bowman's become kind of like that first
• 1:33:39
  rookie card for big Japanese guys like show Hey Otani that like that that rookie
• 1:33:45
  card is is like it croaches and encroaches on his actual rookie card up paper
• 1:33:51
  to paper version. And I think Yamamoto is gonna get as well because it's
• 1:33:55
  like the first official rookie card uh in the US. And so I think
• 1:34:01
  that that that's gonna be a kind of a sneaky value there that you know,
• 1:34:05
  people won't really think that through and then over time that's the value that's
• 1:34:10
  gonna climb. And so I'm definitely looking like young Moto Lee, you know,
• 1:34:15
  guys like that. Definitely, any parallels I think are really gonna be
• 1:34:19
  very, very hot or early on. So I think you hit all the
• 1:34:23
  right guys here. It's it's just an interesting balance of ripping this product of
• 1:34:27
  do you sell, do you hold, do you what do you do with
• 1:34:30
  these because some of these guys can take years and years to become relevant,
• 1:34:33
  and these are the guys that out of nowhere become relevant and others don't.
• 1:34:38
  But I do think it does come down to the print run. I think
• 1:34:40
  that's gonna be a huge factor here. Last year or so, the print
• 1:34:44
  run has been so massive on this it's really watered down the value of those
• 1:34:46
  those first first moment. Yeah, and you make a really good point with
• 1:34:50
  that Yamamoto rookie card that I forgot about that, you know, it's kind
• 1:34:54
  of like his first true rookie outside of Big League. But like the factor
• 1:35:01
  with that too is that I think Beckett technically considers this, and so there
• 1:35:05
  are lots of other collectors in the market that consider this is that like even
• 1:35:10
  the prospect cards, if that player gets called up in that year, that
• 1:35:15
  is technically their rookie card quote unquote, So it makes it a little bit
• 1:35:17
  extra valuable that those are maybe like the one type of card that you can
• 1:35:24
  hold just to see throughout the rest of the year. Like who gets called
• 1:35:28
  up? Is these Bowman prospect cards for the guys who don't have their first
• 1:35:33
  So a part of the Bowman Prospects list is you'll have the guys with their
• 1:35:38
  first in there, but then the rest in that checklist, it's just a
• 1:35:44
  unlabeled kind of card of that prospect. So for example, Jackson Holliday has
• 1:35:48
  one and it's not a first, it's just a Bowman paper a part of
• 1:35:53
  the Bowman Prospects set. So there, I know, like the Wan Soto
• 1:35:58
  card when Wan Soto debuted, like that one holds a little bit extra value
• 1:36:00
  in the kunas and stuff, and it has traditionally happened, but it is
• 1:36:04
  like a little bit of like a little boost to those value in cards,
• 1:36:09
  especially if those players end up turning into big stars. Is that that Bowman
• 1:36:15
  paper Bowman chrome from that prospect set in the year that they debuted becomes like
• 1:36:19
  another pseudo Rookie card. And one more point I want to make on like
• 1:36:26
  Theylmotos, there's autos here, like we're talking Chrome Rookie autos and like so
• 1:36:30
  that just jumps through the roof of some of the guys that you know,
• 1:36:33
  PCA's on there, Lailer, you know, Kurstad, Ellie, Colton,
• 1:36:40
  Kowser, you know Ces. There's a number of guys here that really are
• 1:36:46
  going to make an impact. And there is a Chrome Rookie Autographs Samurai Japan
• 1:36:55
  variation yam Moto autograph. I don't know what that looks like. I haven't
• 1:37:00
  seen it yet, but on the checklist, and so I have got to
• 1:37:02
  think something like that. It's it's almost like they're trying to go back to
• 1:37:05
  you know, when they had the uh Otani Sanskrit you know auto. It's
• 1:37:12
  like they're trying to create something really exciting here for young Moto that's just gonna
• 1:37:17
  just gonna go go crazy. So there's some there's some cool chases here.
• 1:37:23
  Yeah, And I mean the biggest the product chase here is the Ultimate Autograph
• 1:37:28
  Book card, which let me one, two, three, four, I'm
• 1:37:32
  I'm not even going to try to count. It's got to be like,
• 1:37:35
  what like twenty four autos of the hottest prospects all in one booklet. So
• 1:37:40
  that's the big hit that we're all looking for in this product. On top
• 1:37:45
  of it, though, like the autograph checklist, not only does it have
• 1:37:48
  the Jyl and Cruise, the Young Motos, the Brock Wilkins or anybody else
• 1:37:51
  that we've kind of talked about. Walker Jenkins is going to be huge.
• 1:37:56
  This is actually a really great checklist, I think for the top one hundreds
• 1:38:00
  Scouts Top one hundred autographs checklists. So that is one of the standard inserts
• 1:38:05
  on Bowman every year is that there is the top one hundred of the top
• 1:38:12
  one hundred prospects, and just given where prospects are this year, I feel
• 1:38:16
  like it's a really great list because I mean, obviously, just in the
• 1:38:20
  top five, we're looking already at Jackson Holliday, Jackson Curio, Paul Skenes,
• 1:38:25
  Dylan Cruz, Ethan Sallis. I mean, six is James Woods,
• 1:38:29
  seven is Jackson, Merrill, Wyatt Langford's on this checklist. So there's a
• 1:38:33
  lot of great autographs that are buried in this product. I mean that is
• 1:38:36
  driving the price a little bit, but hitting some of these upper echelon dames
• 1:38:41
  is a total like shot in the dark. So I've never like even come
• 1:38:47
  close to hitting one of them. That usually I'm getting the samad tailors and
• 1:38:51
  other kind of backup pictures of the world. So that is a consideration,
• 1:38:56
  like as you're going out and scoping any it breaks you might want to be
• 1:39:00
  entering, or any of the hobby products you might want to be picking up.
• 1:39:05
  Is that it is a pretty good autographs checklist. It's just very extensive
• 1:39:12
  from top to bottom in terms of prospects and first as well. So I
• 1:39:16
  know we've talked a lot about the players, but we have to hit one
• 1:39:20
  of your favorite things about this and I'm gonna let you do the honors today,
• 1:39:25
  drink. I want to run us. You gotta run us through the
• 1:39:29
  parallels for this set, because it is incredible the number of parallels that we're
• 1:39:34
  talking here, which goes back to the print run conversation. I think it's
• 1:39:38
  gonna tell us something. But take us through, take us through what we're
• 1:39:42
  looking at here from a parallel perspective, and I think I got them all.
• 1:39:45
  I don't know. I'm trying to compare them on the checklist from Beckett
• 1:39:49
  to tops ripped. And also keeping in mind in series one, like I
• 1:39:56
  think we ran through the list of all the parallel and then subsequently, for
• 1:40:01
  like two or three more weeks kept adding more parallels. So by no means
• 1:40:05
  is this exhaustive, as I'm sure that there will be other parallels that come
• 1:40:09
  out, but all right, here we go. So in terms of your
• 1:40:14
  paper parallels, so that's both your base one hundred card player checklists as well
• 1:40:20
  as off your prospect they have sky blue to forty ninety nine, neon green
• 1:40:26
  to three three ninety nine fushia to two ninety nine purple to two fifty purple
• 1:40:30
  pattern to one ninety nine pink to one seventy five blue to one fifty blue
• 1:40:36
  pattern to one twenty five yellow to seventy five gold to fifty orange to twenty
• 1:40:44
  five that's a hobby only black to fifteen. Also hobby only red to five
• 1:40:49
  platinum, one of one's printing plates, one of one on the chrome side,
• 1:40:56
  it's there's so many, this is so many, and so this is
• 1:41:00
  only going to be on your Prospect cards because only the Prospect cards on the
• 1:41:04
  set have the chrome parallels, and here we go. You got many diamond
• 1:41:10
  refractor parallels unnumbered Lunar Glow which are back unnumbered Basic Refractor four ninety nine,
• 1:41:17
  Lava Refractor three ninety nine, Speckle Refractor two ninety nine, Purple Refractor two
• 1:41:24
  fifty, Purple ray Wave two fifty Future Refractor one ninety nine, Fushaw Lunar
• 1:41:30
  Refractor one ninety nine, Blue Refractor one fifty Blue Shimmer one fifty Blue ray
• 1:41:36
  Wave one fifty Hobby Exclusive Aqua Lunar one twenty five, Aqua Shimer one twenty
• 1:41:44
  five, Green Grass ninety nine, Yellow seventy five Yellow Lunar seventy five Gold
• 1:41:51
  fifty Gold Shimmer of fifty, Orange Refractor of twenty five, Hobby Exclusive again,
• 1:41:58
  Orange Shimmer twenty five, Hobby Exclusive again Black to ten of yeah of
• 1:42:04
  ten. That was not Hobby Exclusive, just new. Sorry I was,
• 1:42:06
  I got excited about the Hobby Exclusive there rose gold to ten Rose gold,
• 1:42:12
  Mini Diamond to ten, Red, Lava to five, red, regular to
• 1:42:15
  five superfractor one of one printing plate one of one's. I feel like every
• 1:42:24
  time we do this, we talk about them jumping the shark, but holy
• 1:42:27
  cow, dude, that's basically fifty. I did the rough math, aka
• 1:42:32
  I counted, and there's roughly fifty perils. And I get there's difference between
• 1:42:38
  like your paper and your chromes and stuff, but there's fifty. Like good
• 1:42:43
  luck going after the rainbow and just the chrome. I think you're like,
• 1:42:45
  yeah, thirty one. And when we're not talking to different versions of printing
• 1:42:50
  plates and things like that, you know, it's it's get a little funny
• 1:42:55
  right when you talk you went through it's like blue refractors out of one fifty
• 1:43:00
  blue shimmer refractors on the one fifty raight wave blue refractions one fifty, Like
• 1:43:03
  exactly, there's that's four hundred and fifty blue refractors here, and I,
• 1:43:10
  for life, I can't tell the difference sometimes when I get these and so
• 1:43:14
  like it is an interesting way that like you know, it wasn't late nineties.
• 1:43:17
  It was like a numbered card. It doesn't matter what number like there
• 1:43:20
  was like it was generally like three parallels. You might get like you might
• 1:43:27
  have like an atomic out of one hundred and something on a four hundred,
• 1:43:30
  and that was it. Like there was five hundred numbered cards in like a
• 1:43:32
  set. Yeah, like total and now we're talking about literally thousands of numbered
• 1:43:38
  cards and we're using the same number over like like I we're watering it down
• 1:43:45
  to the point here. I mean, it's still fun, it's still still
• 1:43:46
  gets the chance to get things, but like the what used to be the
• 1:43:50
  chase of a rainbow, which is kind of cut cool, like I can
• 1:43:54
  get all nine different variations of a card of a guy like no, you
• 1:43:57
  can't, good luck no, And I mean, I don't think it's also
• 1:44:01
  a coincidence that the three big prospect or three of the big prospect names here
• 1:44:09
  are all got blue color parallel matches in terms of cruise, Jenkins and Wilkin,
• 1:44:15
  that they will all look good in that blue that it does feel a
• 1:44:19
  little pandering, especially that they took that blue and blew it out to three
• 1:44:26
  different parallels when all, I mean it happens a couple of other spots,
• 1:44:30
  you know, with like purple and orange and gold where you've got the two,
• 1:44:36
  but yeah, to have that third blue parallel, I think it really
• 1:44:42
  just kind of pushes the start more so into like a clown territory than it
• 1:44:47
  has been before, where it's felt ridiculous. But like, yeah, when
• 1:44:50
  it's going a little crazy like that, and like you said, you have
• 1:44:55
  four hundred and fifty different blue parallels that it really kind of takes the the
• 1:45:00
  specialness of having just one of those blues. Well, here's a point where
• 1:45:04
  you start playing my guy card here, I start going, well, what's
• 1:45:06
  the difference between purple and fusia? Like are these just different versions of purple?
• 1:45:12
  Like did one just come out of the printer a little hot? And
• 1:45:15
  we just say, well, it's not really purple, let's just name it
• 1:45:16
  fusia. Right, you're getting you're getting a little little uh little technical here
• 1:45:21
  for for for my liking, uh as we get through, because that's that's
• 1:45:26
  always one of the fun things I think with some of these sets, is
• 1:45:29
  you get these uh. I've sold some cards. I think Chrome Platinum has
• 1:45:32
  the same issue where there's like a true red and then like like a red
• 1:45:36
  wave like and some of them and and people are like, is this the
• 1:45:40
  red or is this the fuchsia? And I'm like, I don't know,
• 1:45:43
  it looks red to me. And they're like, well, the fusia is
• 1:45:45
  really hard to find and it's you know, hobby only, and I'm like,
• 1:45:48
  not a clue, don't know what I got, is there a decoder
• 1:45:53
  ring? Uh for for for this product? Yeah, to be able to
• 1:45:56
  line up. I think what I also don't like is that like you have
• 1:46:00
  all of the different colors in different patterns, and like it's just so random,
• 1:46:05
  you know what I mean. There's not like a there's not some sort
• 1:46:10
  of sense of just it being structured that you know, you've got random lunars,
• 1:46:17
  random ray waves, random speckles, and it just like it doesn't make
• 1:46:24
  any rhyme or reason put it together. That I'd like to see some sort
• 1:46:29
  of through line that was more thought out, where you get the shimmer in
• 1:46:33
  the hobby, the retail, Yeah, and just bass like in everything,
• 1:46:39
  it's like different versions of shimmers. I feel like there should all be hobby
• 1:46:43
  or all the retail like it lots. I would prefer too of just like
• 1:46:47
  regular refractors, but in all the different patterns and maybe taking away the colors,
• 1:46:51
  like just something that like I know that they're trying to have fun with
• 1:46:57
  all these different refractor kind of variations that they can print, but like it
• 1:47:01
  did feel like a couple of years ago, you know, one set would
• 1:47:04
  have all waves, one set would have all diamonds, one set would have
• 1:47:09
  all ray waves and so there was consistency throughout the product, as opposed to
• 1:47:14
  this just feels like a printing press, like barfed all over a bunch of
• 1:47:17
  color foil. I was waiting for you to say one set would have all
• 1:47:20
  tacos, which is not a joke. Sadly, Yeah, this is a
• 1:47:29
  Yeah, this has become like I think part of this too is like we're
• 1:47:32
  just also getting old and like the world's starting to pass this by little by
• 1:47:36
  little, and you get to hear that this podcasts set very very honest truth.
• 1:47:44
  Yeah. Okay, well, let's get a little bit into the inserts
• 1:47:46
  before we wrap up Bowman here for twenty twenty four, just because we touched
• 1:47:51
  on it a little bit with the Scout inserts, which are always a part
• 1:47:57
  of the Bowman set. I know that you like to put that set together
• 1:48:00
  a lot every year, that you're gonna be doing that again this year.
• 1:48:03
  Yeah, that's a good chance I will. It's one of those that like,
• 1:48:06
  I don't, I don't plan to do it, and then I get
• 1:48:09
  a few of them and I'm like, well I've already started, I'm as
• 1:48:13
  well finish it. So you know, it definitely one of the things I
• 1:48:16
  like to put together. I didn't actually accomplish it last year. I got
• 1:48:20
  halfway through and then just ran out of steam. But there's a good chance
• 1:48:25
  that this is one because it is fun to build, because I always like
• 1:48:28
  to go back and you know, three or four years later, it's like,
• 1:48:30
  hey, this guy's hit it big, Like I know I've got his
• 1:48:32
  card. I know I've got it somewhere because I got the whole set,
• 1:48:34
  and so that's just kind of fun. And then the whole internal debate of
• 1:48:39
  do I break up my set to take that card out and look at it
• 1:48:43
  or something like that, But those are personal problems. So yeah, And
• 1:48:46
  I mean, it is an impressive looking set. To get all one hundred
• 1:48:49
  of them together, and if they're in like a binder or something, it's
• 1:48:51
  it's fun. And to be able to like go back through the old Bowman
• 1:48:56
  sets and see what the top one hundred prospects looked like every year. It's
• 1:48:59
  just kind of like a cool arc of baseball history. To put it all
• 1:49:01
  together, it is it's fun, and like, because it's only one hundred
• 1:49:04
  cards, it is pretty well defined and it's not hard. They're numbered on
• 1:49:10
  the front so like it's it's it's easy to see. It's like I just
• 1:49:14
  need fifty seven. Just give me fifty seven, I'll finish my set.
• 1:49:15
  Like and generally they're not they're not really highly sought after, but they're usually
• 1:49:23
  fun cards. Yeah, and then we've also got the Spotlights coming back this
• 1:49:28
  year, so that was an extremely popular insert last year and I really like
• 1:49:31
  it. But we'll see kind of what the design looks like this year.
• 1:49:34
  I haven't really seen any pictures of it yet, but last year's design was
• 1:49:40
  it was just a cutout of the player in their batting stance than like a
• 1:49:44
  back background that looked like they were on a lit stage. I think those
• 1:49:46
  will be extremely popular again this year, especially given that one of them is
• 1:49:50
  the Eli Rookie cards, so I think that's gonna be a hot commodity,
• 1:49:54
  along with the Jason Dominguez pca Evan Carter Rookie cards and as well. And
• 1:50:01
  we've also got Retrofractors back, which hasn't been very hyped because of everything else
• 1:50:06
  going on with Dylan Cruz and everything. But last year we had Roberto Clemente
• 1:50:12
  and Babe Ruth and that was in Bowman chrome. This year in regular Bowman,
• 1:50:17
  we've got Pete Rose of fifty Chrome Retrofractor and Bob Gibson of fifty Chrome
• 1:50:24
  Retrofractor, so those will be pretty big chase cards as well. And then
• 1:50:28
  here's where I think we're gonna start getting into a little bit of fun.
• 1:50:30
  Actually, these insert designs I've seen for a couple of these other sets have
• 1:50:35
  been I think really fun, mostly because they harken a lot back to the
• 1:50:39
  nineties in terms of just like some of the goofy designs used to get on
• 1:50:44
  Fleer especially. I felt like Fleer did a really great job of kind of
• 1:50:47
  mixing like a cartoonish element to a bunch of their insert designs. And that's
• 1:50:54
  what we're picking up here in Bowman this year as the Gladiators of the Diamond.
• 1:50:58
  Insert checklist will include pictures of the players like in the Colisseum like the
• 1:51:04
  Gladiator Colisseum from Rome with the motif. It looks pretty cool. You've got
• 1:51:10
  Prospect power up cards which are the player inside like a pinball machine, which
• 1:51:16
  I think looks kind of cool. It's a little gimmicky, but it's fun.
• 1:51:19
  And then my favorite of these is the Rising Infernos it's just like the
• 1:51:25
  player surrounded in a bunch of fire. It just really reminds me, especially
• 1:51:30
  of the inserts from the Basketball like Fleer sets back in the nineties, and
• 1:51:35
  they're just, oh man, they're just tacky and glorious in terms of like
• 1:51:41
  the fire usage on there. But then I think this will probably end up
• 1:51:45
  being the most popular inserts set, at least from what I've been seeing in
• 1:51:49
  terms of chatter on Reddit and Twitter. And that's the nineteen fifty five Bowman
• 1:51:54
  anime checklist, especially given that you have Otani and Yoshida included in that.
• 1:52:00
  That what it is is the nineteen fifty five Bowman design. It was like
• 1:52:04
  watching it on a nineteen fifties like TV set, and then they're taking these
• 1:52:10
  cards by drawing the players in anime fashion. So I think these are going
• 1:52:15
  to be hits, especially like I said, the Otani card is going to
• 1:52:17
  be I think a pretty big collector's piece out of that set. So,
• 1:52:23
  Bro, what about you, any of these insert sets really peaking your interest
• 1:52:26
  this year? Yeah, so maybe maybe you mentioned it, maybe I just
• 1:52:30
  missed it, but the AI checklist did I skipped over that, But you
• 1:52:33
  just got the opportunity to talk about it. Yeah, I'm I'm very torn
• 1:52:39
  on this because I I've I've seen one card from it, and really,
• 1:52:44
  so what the those twenty cards all big name prospects from Elie to Hinterry,
• 1:52:49
  Davis to Holiday to Jones? Would you know all those guys? And really
• 1:52:56
  it's supposed to be a set where the they use the Advanced Player Stats two
• 1:53:03
  be then AI system to say what came out of it, and they basically
• 1:53:09
  a I built the card and the one, the one I'm I'm looking at
• 1:53:13
  is you know, it's it's questionable, Like I said, what what what
• 1:53:17
  are we looking at? So that that's that's just interesting. I've just not
• 1:53:21
  seen enough examples to know what's going to come out of that. It could
• 1:53:25
  be really really cool. It could be we we missed the mark. The
• 1:53:29
  the other one that you know, it's kind of interest, like the in
• 1:53:33
  Bloom cards. Yeah, also and those ones I just don't get. It's
• 1:53:39
  like the one I'm looking at Max Clark in a flower pot. So I'm
• 1:53:45
  sitting here going, uh this, I just know I just can't buy that.
• 1:53:49
  So I'm it's it's gonna be interesting. I do personally love the Spotlight
• 1:53:54
  cards. I to me, they they look like they should be from maybe
• 1:53:58
  like a Penie set, where they should be like a case hit, and
• 1:54:00
  they're not, but they have that feel of it. So I think there's
• 1:54:02
  some really cool cool things here, and I do like the fact that they
• 1:54:06
  also have the hidden Gyms. Hidden Gyms is a ultrarare set that I can't
• 1:54:15
  remember the print run of them, but they're very very hard to find,
• 1:54:18
  and so if you're trying to go through all the inserts, hidden Gyms is
• 1:54:23
  a very tough tough poll for the hobby and I don't I haven't seen the
• 1:54:30
  print runs on those or the odds on those. So lots of fun stuff,
• 1:54:33
  lots of fun inserts, yeah, exactly. And none of us mentioned
• 1:54:38
  the Rookie of the Year Favorite insert because honestly, it might be my most
• 1:54:43
  hated insert set of the year. I think it's just weird rookie cards and
• 1:54:47
  they look so dumb, especially considering one of them is Ronnie Mauricio, because
• 1:54:54
  definitely not a Rookie of the your favorite or just like it always seems to
• 1:54:58
  fall apart like that, or like I've I've been working actually on the rainbow
• 1:55:00
  of that for Gavin Sheets, because like some of the guys that get included
• 1:55:04
  in this Rookie of the Year Favorites checklist in retrospect end up being quite hilarious.
• 1:55:10
  In Gavin Sheets is certainly amongst that. Yeah, it feels like it
• 1:55:15
  should be a really good set, but it's just not. Yeah, all
• 1:55:18
  right, Well, I think that gives a great overview of twenty twenty four
• 1:55:23
  Bowman. I will in the show notes have lots of links to the things
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  that we've discussed in terms of the checklists and being able to see some of
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  the designs of these cards so that you don't have to rely on this audio
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  format to try and envision what the cards look like. Especially Yeah, I
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  want you to check out those Infernal cards because the only one is pretty fantastic.
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  I think it's gonna be quite the collector's item. So with that,
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  let's wrap it up this Brew, wrap it up this week Brew. As
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  we approach the week before Bowman twenty four coming out, let everybody know where
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  they can find you. Yep, you can find me a Jaybrewer one seven
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  over on Twitter slash x. You can find me on the weekends over at
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  ras ball Hitter Profiles Top one hundred hitters for the season. We are well
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  underway. You just got the top one hundred hitters. I love this time
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  of year, just fased on the interaactions, the number of folks and those
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  hitter lists. They change quickly as you're really trying to figure out where everybody
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  is at. So reach out, interact, call us out on what we
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  get wrong. Always of a good time. So what about you, Mike?
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  Where can they find you? Yes, you can find me on Twitter,
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  slash x and blue Sky at m cool seven. And you can also
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  find me on ras ball on the weekends on Saturdays with your waiver wire reports
• 1:56:45
  and need help with some of those injuries that we went through at the beginning,
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  or how to parse through some of those promotions view emotions. That's what
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  I'm doing every week. We're looking at hot pickups for the upcoming set of
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  of you know, seven to fourteen days, but also looking long term at
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  some guys that might be on your team the rest of the year that might
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  still be out there in your playerpool waiver wires. So you can also email
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  thepod at Cardscategories at gmail dot com. The pod is also on Twitter,
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  slash x at cards Categories We have merchandise which is linked in the show notes.
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  You can find a link there to buy hats, t shirts, onesies.
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  The onesie is still up there so haven't sold one, but if you're
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  looking for a onesie for your child, I've got a great one for you
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  on the Cards and Categories website. Well I guess not website, but the
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  team store, if you will. So with that, we will let everybody
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  get out there to some Bowman twenty twenty four ripping and we'll be back with
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  you, same time, same place, next week. Take care, everybody,