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- 0:02OK, good morning. We are starting Rishalaf, not
- 0:05starting. We're continuing Rishalaf Herjos
- 0:08mikvos Subi Hanukkah and we're starting Siif ayan Gimel.
- 0:13OK, Sinead Mikvos. The beginning is going to be
- 0:16continuation from before. And then we have a couple new
- 0:19fascinating topics, Shinead Mikvos, Shine Bahem Arbaimsea.
- 0:24It's OK. So you have two Mikvas, and
- 0:26neither one of them has Arbaimsea.
- 0:29So right megashamim. It would be a kosher mekhla, but
- 0:33the kosher. The water's kosher, but you just
- 0:35don't have enough venaflu shlosha lugin latoch ekhad
- 0:39mehem. And then you see from the cup a
- 0:42pitcher 3 Lugin fall into one of them.
- 0:45Then you do a lazy mehem naflo, but you don't know which one it
- 0:50landed into. So whichever one it landed into,
- 0:53it's Mayim shoobim, an apostle dit durabanam, right Culiama, we
- 0:58are hard khaki aduga shamim. And then it started to rain
- 1:01outside and both of them and it's malu, both of them filled
- 1:06up with mega shamim. So both of them would have been
- 1:11kosher if it wouldn't have been for the Shloka Lugin.
- 1:14Now that you have the Shloka Lugin of Mayim Shuvim that so
- 1:19the one that has a Mayim Shuvim is puzzled or abundant and the
- 1:22one that only has rain water is 100% kosher.
- 1:26Only problem is you don't know which is which.
- 1:28So loyitbo bashum ekhad mehem Lakhat Khila.
- 1:32So the laka is you're not supposed to dip into either one
- 1:35of them. Lakhat Khila unless you drain it
- 1:38out all the way and you're left with less than shlo shalugin.
- 1:44Or really, or just make a bone dry or whatever and then start
- 1:47all over again. That's Lakhat Khila.
- 1:50But why? Because you know, one of them
- 1:54for sure is puzzle durabana, one of them is for sure kasher the
- 2:00rice and durabana, but you don't know which one.
- 2:03And since you have and and it's when it happened, the Suffolk
- 2:07happened, you, you didn't, none of them was established as being
- 2:10kosher or or not. So therefore you have anbam
- 2:16litlots. You have nothing to attach it to
- 2:18or to assume so therefore it's left up in the air.
- 2:22So le Hadhila, we say they're both not good.
- 2:25However, bid the avid, they're both good because once it
- 2:29already happened and you already went into the mikvah, so then
- 2:33you can look back and say, well, it's a Suffolk.
- 2:35There a bun on it. And it's not like you, you don't
- 2:37have one to be told either direction.
- 2:40So therefore bid the avid. If one went into such a mikvah,
- 2:43it does work. OK, let's go to the next one.
- 2:47OK, I in Dalid. Now this we've seen again a
- 2:50couple times. Let's just rehash it out in
- 2:54brief call Hamid Kavosanim Zayim sewing.
- 2:59If any time you walk into the street and you see a mikvah,
- 3:03again, we're not talking about our local mikvahs that, you
- 3:06know, have a have a building around it and it says a sign of
- 3:09a mikvah. We're talking about you walk on
- 3:11the street and there's a little ditch in the hole, a little a
- 3:14puddle in the hole in the ground and it's filled with water.
- 3:18So again, it depends that that's also not exactly true.
- 3:21Let me finish the saying. Basically, you're finding these
- 3:24pools of water OK, sewing maybe pools is actually the best
- 3:30expression. If you find a stomp pool, you
- 3:33have to assume it's puzzled Shekhaz Khatan because there's a
- 3:38Hazaka that is puzzled because how else did water get in there?
- 3:42They use the they turn on it has there's a barriers in there.
- 3:45There's a sink in there or people empty things from the the
- 3:49hope store water with the with the with the bait, with the
- 3:53buckets or the I know, but I'm you're right.
- 3:56But it's also for nowadays hoses, whatever it is.
- 4:01Basically it goes like this. Just you can read I in Dalid.
- 4:06You can read back to what we just read some text and you can
- 4:10read back to see if Dalid as well in the Rama.
- 4:13And each time it says something else because each case is a
- 4:16little bit different. The shock also explains this in
- 4:20brief quite well because it it it depends if you're talking
- 4:25about a mikvah, that's because Kas cautious.
- 4:28In other words, it's there's a sign on the door on the wall and
- 4:31it says a mikvah. So you know, a kosher Jew built
- 4:33it and filled it up with water. So anytime it's like that, it
- 4:36has a huskas kashrus, But anytime you're seeing a random
- 4:40puddle, that's likely also. Then it depends, he says, if
- 4:44it's likely it came from man or a faucet or tap water.
- 4:47So then it's puzzle, but if it's likely to have come from rain,
- 4:51it's outdoors, there's no roof. It just rained last night.
- 4:54Exactly. So in those cases, he says
- 4:57there's a Hazaka that it is kosher and you can use it.
- 5:00All right. I like we mentioned yesterday,
- 5:01it all depends on the case. OK, Really not much more to say.
- 5:06Ayin. Hey, OK, there's here There's
- 5:09more to say. Yeish Misha Oser.
- 5:12So it's more of a, of a, I don't know, das yahid or a minority
- 5:17opinion, that's for sure. Sha oser lahatil yura Malaya
- 5:21mayim hamim letour ha mikva le chamomo right?
- 5:26In the olden days, I mean could be nowadays too.
- 5:29But a mikva, generally the water gets filled up with cold water.
- 5:35Water starts out as cold and we know it's not so comfortable.
- 5:39So can you use a heated mikva? So there is an opinion, Rabin,
- 5:45Uttam, and maybe others, that says there's an isser darabanan
- 5:50to fill up with hot water. In other words, we know once you
- 5:54have a kosher mikva, you're allowed to take mayanshuvim with
- 5:58a bucket and fill it up as much as you want.
- 6:01You can put 1000 gallons. There's no limit.
- 6:04It's only a problem if you didn't start out with a kosher
- 6:08mikva of memsa. Once you have memsa, you can add
- 6:11as much as you want, no issues. What about if it's hot water?
- 6:15So I mean what Tom holds there's an Issa darabanan of taking a
- 6:20filling it up with hot water. Why?
- 6:23Why is there a problem to heat it up with hot water?
- 6:26Or I'll explain in a SEC Vekrain lumala OT mikva maim kamin or to
- 6:32just what we do. We take a a mikva and we fill it
- 6:35up with hot water. Well, basically that's what
- 6:38we're doing. We're taking a mikvah, we're
- 6:40filling it up with hot water or we take cold water and we heat
- 6:44it up UL habro le nahar Mishra ferret anode.
- 6:49And so that mikvah would have been not kosher.
- 6:52But then we have our tube, our opening of Kishra Ferretano to
- 6:57attach it to our Ozar Megashami, more Ozar zuria, whatever it is
- 7:03here. It's really the talking about
- 7:04Ozar Hashaka. Fine, so it's connected.
- 7:09And so then he says, so the same problem anytime we go inside a
- 7:16mikvah that's heated automatically there's an isser
- 7:19darabanan. What's the isser darabanan?
- 7:23So the taz says I mean, it's not you don't need the taz.
- 7:27It's in it's it's in the Rishonim.
- 7:28It's it's in the Basiosa. But the taz right Mishim gazeras
- 7:32Amerhatsa O chatikbo baham beragola as well.
- 7:35It's Exeria Merhart Merhart salt of the bath houses.
- 7:39Because we're afraid if you see that your mikva's heated, you're
- 7:43going to assume, Oh, it's it's, it's heated just like a bath
- 7:47house. And if the if this is if this is
- 7:50OK for Amikva, then mistama, a bath house is OK for Amikva.
- 7:54At least I don't know for however, it is in those days
- 7:57there was a serious hashash that people would assume that or I
- 8:05was afraid that they would assume that they can use any
- 8:08bath house. If you if, if, if their regular
- 8:11mikvah had hot water, then they would use and obviously those
- 8:14hot those bath houses are in general.
- 8:16We're certainly mine Shih Uvim, and that's for sure.
- 8:19So so that's why we wanted to make sure nobody would use only
- 8:24a meerkats as their mikvah. Basically, the minhag is is
- 8:30Lacula. Well, let me keep it in the Roma
- 8:32Agha, the K the Ishma kill you material until my Mahamima
- 8:36mekla. Now most Rishonim don't have
- 8:38this problem and so so the Rama rights.
- 8:42But there are those who are Mako to to heat up their makka de la
- 8:46chamomo Lumiko Malcolm yeesh, Lahammer Imlova Malcolm
- 8:50Shinagulahaka. If the Minnag is not to be Mako,
- 8:53then you should be Mahamar as well as a Limho to be Adan.
- 8:58But those who are Mako, we don't we don't protest the kami
- 9:03tiberia mutter lakuli alma. But if it was never heated, it's
- 9:07just natural hot water springs. So there was never exerra zaiv
- 9:10and DOMA to the Merhats. So anyway, so the generally
- 9:15speaking the Minagana and Claudius are as far as I know
- 9:19around the world is everyone uses heated mikavaos as a homra.
- 9:24There are some who are Mahmer individuals and more men than
- 9:29women and some are even Mahimer for the sake of what's it called
- 9:36sigufim to punish oneself that they say this is one of the only
- 9:41areas where one is mutter nowadays to to cause themselves
- 9:46pain. Anyways, the issue is not just
- 9:50pour pouring water into it's heating, it's heating that that
- 9:56would include metal bars. I believe it includes anyway I
- 9:59that's what I believe I mean the minute gets to be a Mako.
- 10:03So I'm sure people have have different opinions on the
- 10:07matter, but I'm I'm assuming it's being with Tom wouldn't
- 10:10agree to anything but cold or room temperature water.
- 10:16OK, let's read the next part. Now this applies.
- 10:20This is appropriate here and it actually also would have been
- 10:23appropriate in the previous Simon, but going to the mikvah
- 10:29Ullahara Tvila. Now this is again, this is all
- 10:32related about heating another Zehra Dera banana, which is also
- 10:37questionable. Will Akhar had Tavila bin May
- 10:40Mikvak sharing whenever you go to a mikvah, right, the kosher
- 10:44mikvah you, you went in and now you come out.
- 10:47Now afterward, afterwards, after any of us go to the mikvah,
- 10:51what's the deal? Well, I'll just point out that
- 10:56there were the bars and others are matir, so whatever to use
- 11:00hot waters and we know that that's the minhug.
- 11:02I just wanted to point that out and fine, fine, let's just go
- 11:07on. The Rama continues after you go
- 11:10to the mikvah, Mutaret lykanes le merhats kadesh.
- 11:16So the Rama says now she's all cold.
- 11:19She went to the mikvah, right? Cold mikvah.
- 11:21She comes out, she's freezing. So you're allowed to go into the
- 11:25bath house to warm up from the heat of the air of a lakser
- 11:30velir khot sakhar kah yesh Austin.
- 11:33But there is an opinion that says it's usser to go into the
- 11:37in into a hot shower, a hot bath, a hot shower.
- 11:41Anytime you go to the mikvah, you're not allowed to, he
- 11:44writes, to go into this is the minute.
- 11:47According to this word, it's usser.
- 11:48According to this opinion, it's usser to go into a shower or a
- 11:53bath afterwards. Again, the same reason because
- 11:56if Zeramak hurts out, you might think, you might, you might
- 11:59think that really in the shower, in the bath is what also makes
- 12:03you tower. And then somebody might say, you
- 12:04know what, you can also just do that or somebody will see you
- 12:08going only to the afterwards and not to the mikvah before.
- 12:11So Yeshua assume so. Some say it's Mamashasar and
- 12:16then Roma says that is the minhug.
- 12:19So it's true that is the minhug. Certainly for Ashkenazim, it's a
- 12:22minhug not to go. So certainly for women, it's
- 12:26it's a it's a minhug, I would say similar to a level of a
- 12:31halacha on on some level women do not go afterwards.
- 12:35Again, if there's extenuating circumstances, ask your of but
- 12:39the Gras, interesting enough, argues the GRAS says there's no
- 12:42problem. He says according to that
- 12:45opinion, that's only referring to truma.
- 12:48If you're worried about Truma, which we're not worried about
- 12:50Tuma Centaurus like that nowadays, but but the minhug is
- 12:55for Ashkenazi like the Rama, not to go.
- 12:58So many men don't do not have this Hummer.
- 13:02It's only established by by by women or perhaps a zaf if he
- 13:08needs to go. But for regular going they
- 13:13Balcari whatever it is. So our emotion quotes.
- 13:16I think the seats Eliezer, if you don't mind, and others as
- 13:19well say it's a mutter. There's no such problem.
- 13:22But anyways, the HBH and among the Svardim, so then Rabi Rabi
- 13:28Yosef in Yabiya Omar says this is only, I mean others as well.
- 13:33This is only this halacha is only for Ashkenazim for the Rama
- 13:38does not apply to Svardim. Many Svardim are Mahamar, but
- 13:41it's not me Karadin and they don't have to be.
- 13:45And as far as, and then once you go home, everybody agrees all
- 13:49the postgame, as far as I know, agree that you're allowed to
- 13:51shower right away. Once you go to the house.
- 13:54Some might say wait a little bit longer, but you're not at the
- 13:56mikva anymore, Mika. And everyone agrees you're
- 13:58allowed to shower right away. It's, it's only a humra.
- 14:01It's only a, it's a minority opinion that was accepted as a
- 14:04humra and it was only for the meerkats.
- 14:07Because you might think, now you're going home, you're not at
- 14:10the meerkats anymore, right? You can't.
- 14:13So that's the only time it's a problem.
- 14:15And the the mark explains, because why would they want to
- 14:18go? The water was dirty.
- 14:19Go ahead, especially in those days, so they would want to
- 14:23rinse off and then people might think that the icar or it's
- 14:27acceptable to do it outside in a in a in a bath as opposed to OK,
- 14:32and this just point out from here.
- 14:35There is what to be said about Friday nights.
- 14:37I'm just going to make one comment.
- 14:39That's why generally Spartan will go Friday nights to the
- 14:44mikvah. When they have to go Friday
- 14:46nights, they'll go during the Dafka during Beneshmashas
- 14:50because it needs to be after Skia.
- 14:52Normally we're always mothmer for after taste.
- 14:56But really meek are then we can go after all, right with the
- 15:00right the, the, the dinder abundant is we make sure we wait
- 15:04until Skia until night time. So Skia's meek are then.
- 15:09So usually wait till taste. But why on Friday nights we go
- 15:12for skia? Because we're going into a hot
- 15:16mikvah. So if you want to be to be you'd
- 15:18say this Shokanarak and I in hay to not go in a hot bath in a in
- 15:23a hot mikvah. So you want to go during banish
- 15:26Mashas before it says yeah, it is.
- 15:30That's exactly the reason for sure.
- 15:36Now Ashkenazim will still wait till says, because they won't
- 15:38let you go to the mikvah until night time and their and they
- 15:42pass the night time has to be says Nachkia.
- 15:46So they'll be a maker on this on this halacha like we are.
- 15:49We're a maker all year long. But on anyways, I think that's
- 15:55the reason why anyways, never mind.
- 15:57But that's that is what's what's what's done.
- 16:00OK, let's see, should we start? Let's start a little bit from
- 16:04Simon Reischbet. All right, sorry, I came to my
- 16:08last comment, but I think that's more or less true.
- 16:11OK, Aleph Simon Reischbet si EF aleph AOL host.
- 16:15It's in the Kalian Zephyt VE hamor.
- 16:18So this VE hamor. So this we had, I mean, much of
- 16:24Reichsbet is Hazara from from the halachas that we had by
- 16:28Anita and by tibila scaling. But OK, let's, let's, let's see
- 16:32if we have anything new. But let's read it inside.
- 16:36So normally by Kaling. Well, the, the, the principle is
- 16:40pretty simple. Anytime you have something on
- 16:44top of your cleat, it stuck onto it that you don't want it to be
- 16:47there. So it's a cathita.
- 16:49And if it's a mute, mockpit, so then it's a problem either
- 16:54abundant mute. If it's Rove and you're not
- 16:59mockpit, it's also a problem. Certainly if it's Rove and your
- 17:04mockpit, it's a big problem. But if you don't care about it
- 17:07and it's a mute, so that's when it could be OK.
- 17:09So normally what so it says over here a lo quotes in backelium,
- 17:16we're talking about Zephyd Valmor.
- 17:18So it's a yeah, like this tar, I don't know, cement or just some
- 17:22stuff on there that you don't want.
- 17:24The quiz we're talking about Michelle Kanarth quotes the
- 17:28halafa. He's talking about glass because
- 17:31on glass it's not normal to have Zephyd and more so it bothers
- 17:35you. So baime bifidim, baime bakus,
- 17:38you can have a pizza anywhere. Pizza anywhere.
- 17:41Doesn't matter if it's you drink only from the inside, if it's on
- 17:44the inside or the outside and you don't want it to be there,
- 17:47it's a problem. As mentions glass because on
- 17:51other Kaline it's it's normal for it to be on it.
- 17:55Those Kaline. And nowadays we have our, you
- 17:58know, process kaline manufactured Kaline from the
- 18:01store. We don't want anything on it.
- 18:03So, so anything that you want removed, that creates a problem,
- 18:07right? Could be stickers, could be this
- 18:09the residue, whatever your mouth beat on is a problem.
- 18:12Whatever you're not, you're not because he don't you.
- 18:15They never put Zephyr on glass. So it's a it's a it's a it's a
- 18:20it's push it, it bothers you. Other clay dishes.
- 18:24It was normal. They sealed it.
- 18:25I don't know, whatever, whatever the deal was, they used to put
- 18:28Zephyr on it, so they wanted it on it.
- 18:30It's just just the the lesson of the example that was quoted.
- 18:35OK, bet, But the principle is what we said.
- 18:38Let's do bet call the Varsha. Derek Lock will have cold sits.
- 18:42And that's what we said. Any time it's there to be mug
- 18:45beat, then it is a pizza we love.
- 18:48But if it doesn't bother you, it's not a pizza robo unless it
- 18:53was Rove, right? We learned that.
- 19:01So it's just some black and a little stain from the heat and
- 19:05it doesn't bother you and there's no one mushes and
- 19:07whatever. So it's not a problem.
- 19:09If you normally bothers you, then it's another story.
- 19:12Let's just do I think we'll do one more and we'll stop.
- 19:14Gilmo yadota Kailin shenan Omdin Liott kevoin.
- 19:19Now let's say you have handles on your clique that they're not
- 19:22going to remain there. There is, you're going to take
- 19:25it off. Kagon chef Nissan Shiloka
- 19:27Darkan. They wouldn't put on properly.
- 19:29They're crooked and you're going to, you know, you're going to
- 19:31take it off because you're going to redo it.
- 19:33OSHA Lokni San Coulomb, they're not all the way in.
- 19:35OSHA, Nissan, Coulomb, Venice Buru where they're all the way
- 19:37in, but they broke those handles or whatever part of the Klee
- 19:42they're coming off. So therefore code sets in.
- 19:46I think it's self-explanatory, but as Itas points out, because
- 19:49since you're going to take them off, we look at it as if they're
- 19:53not there, they're not permanent, they're not there.
- 19:56And so wherever they're touching your Klee at that moment, at
- 20:00that point. They are blocking the cleave
- 20:03from getting the water and therefore it's a constriction.