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Ian Furness 10/30 H1: Gearing up for Monday, Greg Cosell and the matchup. · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 3: Sorry, I just really needed that.
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  Speaker 2: As the Seahawks prepare to host the Bears at Lumen
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  Speaker 2: Field on Monday night, some surprises on yesterday's injury report.
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  Speaker 2: As Leonard Williams, a limited participant, Achilles issue. Chena did
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  Speaker 2: not practice. Ankle, some of the guys didn't, but they
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  Speaker 2: were all load management. NIR, not injury related. Shahid Cross,
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  Speaker 2: Valus Jones, did not practice. Tyrese Knight, limited. Zach Charbonnet,
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  Speaker 2: full participant, limited also. As Jadarian Price now back, has
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  Speaker 2: a 21-day window open. He was out early yesterday. When
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  Speaker 2: we could see him taking some kickoffs, messing around, looking good.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I say looking good. Remember, it was an upper
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  Speaker 2: body injury, so not lower body. Ravens expect to have
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  Speaker 2: quarterback Lamar Jackson back when they face the Bills on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: He's missed the last three games, high ankle sprain. Packers
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  Speaker 2: beat the Carolina Panthers last night for fiction. to kick
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  Speaker 2: off Week 8 in the NFL, and the Panthers followed
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  Speaker 2: up by a loss by relieving Arajo Avero of his
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  Speaker 2: a different Calgary team, guys. They're better than they were.
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  Speaker 2: They've been a lot better lately. They lost the other night,
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  Speaker 2: but they're a lot better than when we saw them
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  Speaker 2: the first couple days of the year. Crackton won those
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  Speaker 1: Whatever.
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  Speaker 3: It looks good today.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I had a bad... I had a bad... The headsets
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  Speaker 2: during the day before no headset, sometimes at night, these
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  Speaker 2: are first world Ian problems. Again, I don't have a
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  Speaker 2: lot going for me. The hair is the only thing.
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  Speaker 2: So I try to make sure that looks okay. And
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  Speaker 2: I had the big, I had a big like indentation.
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  Speaker 2: So luckily JT was downstairs. I was upstairs. I looked
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  Speaker 2: straight at the camera and I had a headset on
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  Speaker 2: for that. So that helped me a little bit. Nobody cares.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if you're watching on YouTube, that's why
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  Speaker 2: I'm totally adjusting myself all the time with the headsets
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  Speaker 2: up here.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, you got to do what you got to do.
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  Speaker 2: When I wear headsets, I go one ear with the
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  Speaker 2: two headsets most of the time. It's weird in our business.
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  Speaker 2: People have different little idiosyncrasies, right? Things they do, and
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  Speaker 2: that's one of mine. They say, hey, put the microphone
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  Speaker 2: on the right side. I said, no, I got to
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  Speaker 2: be on the left side. I'm very strange.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'd want mine.
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  Speaker 2: You have two headsets in, though, right?
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  Speaker 3: I have, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And I just got new covers for my headsets, so
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  Speaker 5: they're not leaving black pieces of fabric all over my
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  Speaker 5: face anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Which is nice.
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  Speaker 2: People here are always losing their mind. Where are my
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  Speaker 2: headsets at? They're really expensive. These ones I've got, these
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  Speaker 2: little Sonys, I bought them at Fred Meyer for $ 12
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  Speaker 2: or $ 13.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Four years ago.
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  Speaker 3: They work fine.
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  Speaker 5: Mine were on Amazon $ 100, but I got them five
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  Speaker 5: years ago. You just replace these for $ 10. But also,
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  Speaker 5: take your headsets with you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not that hard.
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  Speaker 3: And then people don't take them.
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  Speaker 2: That's weird. Yeah. Weird policy.
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  Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Friday. Happy Football Friday brought to you by the
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  Speaker 2: Hockey tonight. Football tomorrow. Football Sunday. Is it a stress-free...
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks fans, 49451. Is it a stress-free Sunday? Do you
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  Speaker 2: like those Sundays when they're not... Your team has a
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  Speaker 2: game this week to either look forward to or celebrate
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, like a Thursday or Monday game. I don't
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  Speaker 2: mind a stress-free Sunday if you're a Seahawks fan. I
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  Speaker 2: kind of like it. I mean, it's not totally stress-free
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  Speaker 2: because most of us have something going on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got to take down all my Halloween decorations.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you got that. Other people have things like survivor pools,
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  Speaker 2: fantasy football, maybe some juice at the Snoqualmie Hotel, casino,
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  Speaker 2: sports book, whatever it might be.
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  Speaker 3: I've got that stuff too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's no Seahawks game to like, I got
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  Speaker 2: to plan my day around a one o'clock game or
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  Speaker 2: the worst of the 10 o'clock games. Nobody likes the
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  Speaker 2: 10 o'clock games, do we? We don't like 10 o'clock games.
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  Speaker 3: No, we really don't. Because then it's like also once
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  Speaker 3: the game's over, you're like, well, now what?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right? Yeah, it's 1 o'clock, and then you look
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  Speaker 2: at the 1 o'clock window, and it's like, oh, the
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  Speaker 2: Chargers are playing again. I can't wait to watch them.
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  Speaker 5: And then for some stupid reason, which I'll never understand,
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  Speaker 5: we only usually carry– if the Seahawks aren't playing in
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  Speaker 5: the 1 o'clock window, our local stations are only able
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  Speaker 5: to carry one other game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, whoever– there's a weird– I worked in this world forever,
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  Speaker 2: and they changed the rules all the time. When you
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  Speaker 2: could have a doubleheader, when you can't. They kind of
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  Speaker 2: rotate the doubleheader between Fox and CBS for the local
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  Speaker 2: NFL markets, depending on your team. And it never made sense.
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  Speaker 2: And it used to be NFC's on Fox, AFC's on CBS.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's changed as well. So I can't keep track.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a red zone guy on Sundays, period.
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  Speaker 5: And that's me too, but then I have three TVs,
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  Speaker 5: and I like to have them all filled.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like that because the red zone, there's always
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  Speaker 2: a delay.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I always have to, so Red Zone usually goes,
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  Speaker 5: if there's a Seahawks game on, that's TV one, Red
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  Speaker 5: Zone's TV two, but Red Zone will sometimes show you
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  Speaker 5: what's going on before your game.
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  Speaker 2: God, we have first world problems, don't we? I know,
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  Speaker 2: we really do.
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  Speaker 5: So I will have to pause Red Zone because there's
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  Speaker 5: nothing worse than seeing what happened in a Seahawks game
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  Speaker 5: before you're seeing it on your main television.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I've got to figure out if the boys, the kids'
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  Speaker 2: buddies are all coming over again. If they're all coming over.
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  Speaker 2: It makes me feel old and young at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll figure that out.
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  Speaker 3: Would they come over for Sunday with no Seahawks football
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  Speaker 3: or just Monday?
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  Speaker 2: It's because these degenerates come over and it's fantasy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So it's red zone. It's a red zone Sunday. It's
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  Speaker 2: red zone and it's fantasy football Sunday. And a couple
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  Speaker 2: of them have figured out the, I don't know which
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  Speaker 2: one they use, Polymarket, Kalshi, whatever one that Bobby Ferguson
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  Speaker 2: is trying to get rid of in our state.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Because they can do the live betting and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then a lot of them go to the sports
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  Speaker 2: book beforehand.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So they head up to Snoqualmie and they've all got
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  Speaker 2: the app now. And so they've got like all their
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  Speaker 2: parlays and all their stuff going on. So yeah, it's a...
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  Speaker 2: It's a gong show. And then my wife goes, when's
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  Speaker 2: football over? Is it over? Are they still playing? When's
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  Speaker 2: the season over? You're like, it's done. It's October.
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  Speaker 5: It's over.
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  Speaker 2: It's just October.
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  Speaker 3: Just three more months.
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  Speaker 2: And then I'll have to fight her on Monday because
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  Speaker 2: it's Monday Night Football. My son's going to the game.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not. And so I'm going to be there. And
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  Speaker 2: she's like, oh, can we watch Big Bang Theory rerun
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  Speaker 2: for the 50th time or Snapped? No, the Seahawks are playing.
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  Speaker 3: Snapped is at least interesting. Big Bang Theory is real
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  Speaker 3: hard to watch.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what I do for a living? She goes,
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  Speaker 2: it's not a hockey game. I go, okay. I know.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a hockey game. I do other things besides hockey.
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  Speaker 3: Don't you know?
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  Speaker 2: Don't you know? Remember I used to leave every weekend?
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  Speaker 2: Every other weekend I'd go somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: She was like, yeah, those were the days.
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  Speaker 2: That's funny you say that. It's funny you say that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we've got Monday Night Football, man. I can't wait. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. This is... Like last Sunday... I would say
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I think if you're a Seahawks fan,
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  Speaker 2: last Sunday you're kind of a little bit more nervous maybe.
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  Speaker 2: I'm guessing. Maybe not. Maybe you'll say for now you're
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  Speaker 2: full of it. I wasn't nervous at all. But last
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  Speaker 2: Sunday was just, there was so much on the line
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  Speaker 2: for a Seattle team that we had not just seen
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  Speaker 2: play really, like a really good, you know, four-quarter game, offense, defense,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the old cliche, offense, defense, special teams, all
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  Speaker 2: that stuff. But we had not seen that. And then
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  Speaker 2: we did see it last Sunday for the most part.
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  Speaker 2: But going into that game, that was such a must-win
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  Speaker 2: for the Seahawks. The stress involved was like, oh my God.
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  Speaker 2: You just think about what was going on. Now you
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  Speaker 2: get that win, and you're asking yourself, as you have
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  Speaker 2: to wait until Monday night, what Seahawks team are we
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  Speaker 2: going to show up? The one that's won the four games.
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  Speaker 2: But three of the four games, they've kind of... Well,
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  Speaker 2: Arizona was 7-7 at the half. They've kind of messed
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  Speaker 2: around with a lot of these teams.
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  Speaker 4: They have.
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  Speaker 2: Or are we going to see the Kansas City team?
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  Speaker 2: Have they kind of hit that stride? What's Quentin Nelson
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  Speaker 2: going to look like in the offense? How's Gray Zabel
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  Speaker 2: going to be at right guard? We'll find out probably
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  Speaker 2: because Sunday will be a Saturday. Tomorrow's a Friday. Saturday's
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  Speaker 2: a Friday. So Saturday and Sunday, we'll kind of keep
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  Speaker 2: an eye and see what they say with– because today's
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  Speaker 2: injury report, frankly, doesn't mean much because today's injury report's
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  Speaker 2: a Thursday. So we'll find out over the weekend. Is
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  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price going to play– I'm going to tell you,
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  Speaker 2: I would, and I loved Emmanuel Wilson yesterday. Just let me,
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  Speaker 2: just a quick shout out. Talk to him on the air.
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  Speaker 2: If you missed our interviews podcast, Seahawk running back, such
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  Speaker 2: an easy guy to root for. Kind of a quiet,
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  Speaker 2: you know, not, you know, he's a quiet young man. Very,
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  Speaker 2: very humble. Just nice as can be. I just, I root,
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  Speaker 2: he's an easy guy to root for.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like went to a D, went to two D2 schools.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't go to D1. Didn't, didn't chase that. Just wanted
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  Speaker 2: to play with his guys, and I love his story.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't have the juice. Now, he's got the juice
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  Speaker 2: third and one. He doesn't have the juice to get outside.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's what they need. They need Jadarian Price.
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  Speaker 2: And if he comes back, I love the chances for
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  Speaker 2: the home team on Monday. If he's not back, I
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  Speaker 2: think it becomes a lot more 50-50 game. Caleb Williams
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  Speaker 2: playing at a really high level. Jeffrey Simmons is going
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  Speaker 2: to help them on the defensive line. You can take
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  Speaker 2: advantage of their secondary. We'll talk about that with Cosell here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to ask him about that here in a
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  Speaker 2: few minutes. You can take advantage of their secondary, but man, Ash,
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  Speaker 2: this is a big one. It's also, here's the other thing,
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City was not a conference game. If you were
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  Speaker 2: to take your pick of which game you needed to
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  Speaker 2: win more, it would have been this Monday as opposed
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  Speaker 2: to last Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If you play the softy, you can only have one game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Only have one.
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  Speaker 2: Because when you go through the tiebreakers, conference play comes
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  Speaker 2: into play. That comes in.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Especially when you're going with wild cards and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: But Monday's going to be sensational. Husky fans, you've got
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  Speaker 2: a big one tomorrow at Nebraska, I think. You help me.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really know what's a big game anymore, honestly.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that weird in today's world?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is, because I don't know. I mean, you
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  Speaker 5: know the powerhouses, right? You think like, well, Ohio State, Michigan,
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  Speaker 5: even though they're not good this year. But those ones,
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  Speaker 5: you know that's a big game. But then you look
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  Speaker 5: at how Nebraska's played some of these teams they've played,
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  Speaker 5: and you think, well, that's going to be a pretty
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  Speaker 5: tough game.
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  Speaker 3: But then you also look at how bad.
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  Speaker 5: oregon actually is and maybe it's not as tough i
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  Speaker 5: don't know i can't i have no idea what to
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  Speaker 5: make of any of it all i know is that
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  Speaker 5: for the huskies obviously every game is a big game
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  Speaker 5: at this point because they need to win them all
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  Speaker 5: if they want any chance at anything since they had
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  Speaker 5: such a poopy start to the season well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah poopy fourth fourth.
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  Speaker 3: Through sixth week of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah no i'm with you i i do believe i
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  Speaker 2: i truly do believe honestly ashley that um that that
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  Speaker 2: The way college football is now, in a lot of
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  Speaker 2: ways with the 12-team playoff, it does become harder to
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  Speaker 2: kind of realize. How excited are you for a game?
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  Speaker 2: If I'm being honest, I think in Nebraska-Washington, I was
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  Speaker 2: on the field in 92 when they played here.
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  Speaker 4: Was it 92?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not fall of 92? Yeah, that was a long
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  Speaker 2: time ago. Yeah, the loudest game ever, they said, at
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  Speaker 2: Husky Stadium. I was still working at Como TV, and
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  Speaker 2: I hated the press box. Like, and we, back then
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  Speaker 2: we could be on the field and I was young
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  Speaker 2: enough to, I didn't care. I'd walk around with our photographer.
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  Speaker 2: It was insane.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely insane.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How loud it was. And it was also Washington playing
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  Speaker 2: Nebraska and they had played, I think the year before
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  Speaker 2: two years, whenever it was. And, and, but it was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Tom Osborne and, and Don James and the
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  Speaker 2: whole nine yards and all that. It just was awesome. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it just was different. And I'm not, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it was better in terms of voting on a champion
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  Speaker 2: and That's stupid.
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  Speaker 3: No, it had flaws for sure.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But just the way.
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  Speaker 2: But at least you had... When they played, it was like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, every week seemed to be bigger. Now
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  Speaker 2: it's like.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just different.
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  Speaker 3: You had characters, too. You had tough coaches.
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  Speaker 2: Because you also had guys sticking around.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you knew the coaches on the other team. You
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  Speaker 5: knew the coaches on your team. You knew the players
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  Speaker 5: on the other team.
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  Speaker 3: You knew who you hated. You knew who you loved.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was better.
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  Speaker 3: It was.
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  Speaker 2: In some ways.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there were flaws. But overall, I liked college football
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  Speaker 3: a lot more back then.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of did, too.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Let's do this. Let's check in with Greg
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  Speaker 2: Cosell coming up in a second. ESPN matchup show NFL films.
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: He's our film guru. We'll break down the trades this week.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy week in the NFL. Simmons, Buckner. Oh, the guy
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  Speaker 2: coming here, Quentin Nelson. We'll talk about that with Greg
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  Speaker 2: Cosell and break down the matchup with the Seahawks and
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  Speaker 2: the Bears coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: Visit with nfl films greg cosell brought to you by
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  Speaker 2: All right greg cosell joins us weekly visit love this
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  Speaker 2: and uh boy there was uh there's no shortage of
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  Speaker 2: things to talk about around the nfl and you know
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  Speaker 2: for us here in seattle greg it started on sunday
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  Speaker 2: night football with just uh Kind of a demolishing of
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  Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs and that offense by the Seahawks defense.
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  Speaker 2: And then one or two trades during the week. And oh,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, the Seahawks have Monday Night Football here
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  Speaker 2: in a few days against a pretty good Chicago Bears team.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know where we start. There's a lot
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  Speaker 2: to get to, my friend.
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  Speaker 4: Certainly there's a lot to get to. Where do you
• 13:40
  Speaker 4: want to start? Did you want to take a step
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: back for a moment on the Chiefs game?
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to get your thoughts on what you
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: saw in that game on both sides of the ball.
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's first talk about what they did. We
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: spent last week ago today, we talked about Ken Walker
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: and all that, and that wasn't a factor.
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: No, and I think the most fascinating thing about that game,
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: and it's in many ways very reflective of Seattle's defense,
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: is they did not really play with an eight-man box
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: to stop Kenneth Walker. They kept their two safeties in
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: the two high structure, which is what they are. That's
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: foundationally who they are. They play with two high safeties.
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: And they stopped Kenneth Walker for the most part with
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: seven in the box. And they just dominated up front. And,
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: you know, that's the way they play. Obviously, we know
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: that Eamon Worry is just a special player. But this is,
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: you know, this is a team that defensively they have
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: a profile. They stick to that profile. Think about this.
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: They've been one of the highest percentage, two high safety
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: structure defenses in the NFL, and against the Chiefs, they
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: played even more than their season average, not less.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: Wow. Offensively, they ran for 100 yards, at least Emmanuel
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Wilson ran for 100 yards exactly, but they were a
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: little more effective. And Felt like they used A.J. Barner
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: a little bit more, the tight end. Obviously, JSN got his.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: But offensively, it felt like they– I don't know if
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: they made it easier for Sam Donald. Sam Donald made
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: it easier for himself. But what did you see on
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: the offensive side of the ball?
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they actually ran the ball well in
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: this game. You know, we saw Wilson have a big game.
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: And obviously, in the fourth quarter, he had a lot
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: of rushes. But I thought, you know, he ran hard.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: He's that kind of runner. He's kind of a tough, physical,
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: downhill competitive runner. He fought in this game. for sustaining yards.
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: He carried six times on the fourth quarter touchdown drive.
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: And obviously that 21-yard touchdown, you know, put the game
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: out of reach. I thought, by the way, on that play,
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: there was a great adjustment by the tight end, off
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: the down block to turn outside and block the safety
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: hit kicks.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: It was just beautifully done. And we again saw that
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: they've got a pretty good wide receiver. I think his
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: name is Smith and Jigba. Have you heard of him?
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: He's pretty good.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Heard that 11's– heard he's okay. I heard he's okay. Yeah.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: It was interesting because clearly the Chiefs, and Steve Spagnuolo
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: has been doing this a long time, depending on where
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: he lined up, they bracketed him quite a bit. But obviously,
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: you don't play the same defense on every single snap.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: And he had those two fade balls. against Delane, which would,
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, you couldn't have handed him the ball any better.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: He did get a step on Delane both times, but
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: those were crazy throws by Darnold, you know. So, you know,
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: it was one of those games that was efficient. You know,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: every week is different. And sometimes people don't understand this
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: because they'll look at a game and go, well, Sam
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Darnold wasn't great or they didn't do that. Well, you know,
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: every week is different. And the idea is to play
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: that game the way it's demanded to be played. They
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: didn't have to worry about scoring 45 points in this
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: game and have Darnold go 28 for 35 for 350.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: The game didn't demand that. So with the way their
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: defense played, they played the way that game required.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Let's do this. We're going to get to the Bears
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: and the Seahawks. I'm going to get to Quentin Nelson. Uh,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: and we're going to get to, uh, to, to Jeffrey
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Simmons as well. Let me take one, just step back to, uh,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: because I mean, just the wild week that it was,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: everything kind of still comes back connected to us here
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: in Seattle. So let me get your thoughts on what
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: the 49ers did and they picked, they brought back to
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Forrest Buckner and, and that that's a significant move for
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: their defensive line. At some point, they'll get Bosa back. So,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: you know, you've watched his tape over all those years,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: and I'm not sure how much Titans you've had to
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: watch this season, but I know you have. What do
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: the 49ers get into Forrest Buckner?
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Well, just so you know, I do Nashville radio, so
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: I've seen every Jeffrey Simmons snap basically going back to
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: his first season with the team. So I'm well aware
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: of Jeffrey Simmons. We'll get to that. Buckner is still
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: a good player. Buckner is very strong against the run.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: He's got strong, powerful hands, a lot of grip strength.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: very good against double teams, still can rush the quarterback.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's quite as good as he once was,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: but he still can do that. And don't forget, they've
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: gotten really good play from their D tackles this year.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: So he gets there. He does not have to play
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: 60 snaps a game, Ian. You know, now you have
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: a phenomenal rotation because they've gotten really good play from
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: Odigizua and the rookie Grayson Halton from Oklahoma, who was
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: a fourth round pick. And even a free agent named
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: James Thompson was back this week. He had some dominant snaps.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: And they'll get Bosa back. Then they have a bye
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: this week. So I don't know if Bosa's back the
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: next week. But, you know, they just have a great rotation. And,
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: you know, it's funny. I had a lot of conversations
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: this offseason with coaches who said that because so many
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: teams now play out of a too high safety shell,
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: just like the Seahawks, that some people believe that deep
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: tackle is the most important position on your defense. And
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: I'm sure Mike McDonald might not disagree with that. given
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Murphy Williams read, you know, given their rotation at the
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: de-tackle position.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I was going to say the thing that I find
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: interesting too, is the different body types that are playing
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: in the middle. Like you just mentioned two of them
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: in Seattle or three of them in Seattle. I mean,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: all three of those guys are different. You know, Leonard
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Williams is kind of built like Buckner a little bit more, right.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: He's a taller, longer guy. And then you've got guys
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: like Murphy that are kind of shorter, squattier, Jaron reads
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: in the middle, but are there comparisons to DeForest Buckner
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: and Leonard Williams?
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, just in terms of their length, you know. Yeah,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: you know, it's funny. Buckner is– Williams is probably just
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: a touch just naturally quicker, but Buckner's a very strong player. And, again,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: I'm bad with comparisons, but Buckner's a very strong player,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: really strong grip strength. I mean, he can really overpower you. Obviously,
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: he's really long. He's 6'7. Williams is not quite that tall.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: He's close. Williams can line up on the edge. I'm
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: not sure Buckner can line up on the edge. on
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: the edge. I think they're different players.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Let's get to Chicago and the Bears. We'll get to
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: their Caleb Williams in the offense in a minute, but
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: we'll start on the defense and what Seattle's going to see.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: They said today earlier the GM in Tennessee expects to
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: see Simmons on the field. We would expect that. He
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: got traded on a Wednesday, I guess it was, and
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, they play on Mondays, defensive tackles. So away
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: we go. So what are the Bears adding in Jeffrey Simmons?
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Well, I hope people in Seattle still like me after
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: I say this, but Jeffrey Simmons is the best D-tackle
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: in the NFL. And he's, I mean, he is just
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: a dominant, dominant force. He's country strong. He's super quick.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, he can dominate games, truly dominate games. And
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: as you know, with D-tackles, It's not about stats. D
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: tackles can dominate games and have one tackle. He's really
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: a good football player and he's really light on his feet.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: So he's a good inside pass rusher as well. So
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: he's just a really good player. Keep in mind, the
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Bears have been a very high percentage of blitz defense
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: up to this point in the season. Their blitz rate has,
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: I think, third or fourth highest in the league. And
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: the reason Dennis Allen has done that is because they
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: did not really have a pass rush without being able
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: to pressure. But the flip side of that is they've
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: given up a lot of explosive plays in the past game.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: So now it'll be interesting to see in this particular matchup,
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: obviously first game with Jeffrey Simmons, whether he cuts down
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: on his blitz rate because he feels he can rush
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: the quarterback with his down four. And we don't know
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: the answer to that until we see them play. But
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: they blitzed a lot this season, you know. relative to
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: the league.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: They won't even know that until Monday, right? When they
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: figure out what they've got in Simmons. We're going to
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: stay on these two sides of the ball, and we'll
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: get back to the actual matchup in a second, but
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I'm almost buried the lead. Quinton Nelson comes to Seattle,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: left guard, and Mike McDonald told us on Thursday he
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: will be the left guard, and Gray Zabel will move
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: to the right guard. That's how it's going to be.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I was actually surprised. I mean, I don't think none
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: of us are surprised that Nelson's going to be the
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: left guard. I think we were surprised they let us
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: know that early on that Zabel's in and Bradford goes
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: to the bench, but that pushed that aside. Quinton Nelson
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: to Seattle. What does he bring?
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just one of those guys. He's a really
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: good player. Plus he's, you know, you know this, you've
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: been around football a long time. Offensive linemen are different
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: and there's a certain culture with offensive linemen, you know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: the way they see things and the cohesion, the way
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: they work together. And obviously he's not working with these
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: guys just yet, but But he brings a certain kind
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: of culture swagger to an offensive line. You know, he's
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: that kind of player. And he's still a very, very
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: good player. My question to you is, I would assume
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Cross is not going this week.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Right. They'll have Josh Jones as going to be the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: left tackle. He told us that yesterday.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, he's going to play there.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Because, you know, it's funny. For a moment, I thought
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: that it would be possible that they couldn't move Zabel
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: out to left tackle for, you know, a week or
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: two because, you know, he played that in college. you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: but I guess they're going to keep him and move
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: him to right guard.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: But, uh, which is probably smart because that's ultimately what's
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: going to happen, you know, when, cause cross will come back. Um, so, uh,
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: but yeah, Nelson is just a really, really good player.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: And it's, it's so interesting that, you know, you're going
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: to get Zabel and, and, uh, and Nelson going up
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: against Jeffrey Simmons this week on, you know, wherever they
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: decide to line up Jeffrey Simmons.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: It's going to be fun to watch with, with Nelson.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: We know like he does everything well.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: And one of the things that they've struggled with this season, obviously,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and I think part of it's, this goes all hand
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: in hand, right. It all kind of fits together. Is
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: that wide zone they want to run and all those
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: types of things. And whether it's, they don't have the
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: running backs that have the juice or maybe the offensive
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: line hasn't been quite as cohesive as it has been. They've,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: they've been had a rotation, you know, this, Bo Stevens
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: and now the since-departed Christian Haynes have been playing a
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: lot of right guard with Bradford out, so they really
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: haven't had that. How much does what they want to
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: do running the ball change now that you've got a
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: guy in Gray's Able who has played on the right side,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: has played right guard before in college, and Quentin Nelson
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: coming in playing left guard? How much does that change
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: what they want to do running the ball?
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Well, I I don't think it changes what they want
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: to do. I think it makes them better at it
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: because I think they want to run the ball. My
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: question to you is when is Judarian Price due back?
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Well, he, his practice window opened up and, you know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: as we speak right now, we won't know until, you know,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: probably late Sunday, whether or not he's going to play Monday,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: but he was on the field yesterday. He was practicing.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Same with Charbonnet. So, and Charbonnet was a full participant.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: So I would expect Charbonnet at least comes back, but
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Price is the guy that they want to run that
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: wide zone, right? So there's a chance. Mike McDowell did
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: not close the door on it, so we'll see.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: So, I mean, obviously this is a team that wants
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: to run the ball because they want to put Darnold
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: under center. They want to run the play-action pass game.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: And you can run play-action without a great run game,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: but the point is it just is a better feel
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: to play action when you have a good run game,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: even though it's been proven over and over that there's
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: not a strict correlation between between running well and play action,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: you still like to be able to run the ball
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: well and just have play action feels better. So that's
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: the way they want to play, Ian. So they'll just
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: be better at it. I mean, look, you have to
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: give Emmanuel Wilson a ton of credit. You know, Emmanuel Wilson,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: no one would view him as a feature back in
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: the league, even with what he's done in Seattle. I
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: guess he's had two 100-yard games. He's been physical. He's
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: been a grinder. He's been a sustainer. He's competitive. But,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: you know, you don't want him as your feature back
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: for 17 games. So now, you know, Price will come back.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: He was drafted to be the feature back. Charbonnet was clearly,
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: you know, is clearly viewed as a really good second back.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: But with what Wilson has done, he obviously deserves snaps.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: The guy who's probably kind of left out in all this,
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: I would think, could be, you know, George Helani because
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Charbonnet is going to play on third down.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about that. It's Greg Cosell joining us.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: His weekly visit brought to you by the Emerald Clean Casino.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: All right, let's Let's get to the secondary. If Sam
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Darnold and Jackson Smith and Jigba and company want to
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: get things going, we're not sure about Rashid Shaheed. He's
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: banged up a little bit right now, so we'll wait
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and see. But let's just talk about it. It sounds
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: like if you're going to do some damage against that
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Bears defense, if you're able to protect Sam Darnold, you
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: can do it against that secondary.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can. They've given up a lot of explosive plays. Now,
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: don't forget. some of those plays come because of the
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: pressure and the blitzing. So, you know, when you blitz
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: with bodies, you have fewer bodies in coverage, so you
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: compromise your coverage. So keep that in mind. It's very
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: possible they could cut down, and we don't know what
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Dennis Allen will do, and he's one of the best
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: in the league as a D coordinator, so we don't
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: know what he'll do. But if he decides to rush
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: with four, let's say, and play seven in coverage, then
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: the big plays certainly might not be there because the
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: numbers game works then in his favor. But when you
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: start bringing extra people, the numbers game does not work
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: in your favor, and they've given up a lot of
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: big plays this year. I think they've given up the
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: third or fourth most explosive pass plays of any defense
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: in the league. So we'll see if tactically the defense
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: changes with the addition of Simmons.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell with us. Let's flip to the other side
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: of the ball. Seahawks took care of business against Kansas
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: City on Sunday Night Football. Monday Night Football, another good offense,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: another great quarterback. And I'm sure you're going to tell
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: me that it's a different challenge this week than they
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: had against Kansas City.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what? I mean, Caleb Williams is really
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: improving dramatically. The thing that I like about him is,
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: and I've used this term this week. I actually did
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: a piece in the matchup show. He has arm arrogance.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: He is willing to turn it loose. And the thing is,
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: when you play against zone, and he's going to get
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: high percentage zone with Seattle and a lot of too
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: high safety shell, as we discussed. You have to be
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: willing to make tight window throws. He is more than
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: willing to do that. Now, he'll miss a few on
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: occasion for any number of reasons. Always hard to know
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: when a quarterback misses a few. But he can make
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: big-time throws, and he sees almost every throw as a
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: viable throw. I've talked about that a lot over the years.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: There's no statistic with all the analytics and all the
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: metrics we have now. There's still no real statistic for
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: balls that should be thrown that aren't thrown. And he
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: doesn't have a problem with that. He's going to turn
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: it loose. And they work between the numbers really, really well.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: You'll see a lot of those kinds of throws. And obviously,
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: they've got good players. You know, Luther Burton was one
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: of my favorite receivers when he came out of college.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: He was a second round pick for apparently other reasons
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: other than football. I don't get into that, as you know,
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: but that's what I heard from people. But he's a
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: really dynamic player. And he's someone you've got to be
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: careful with because he can run routes at all three levels,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: and he's really good with the ball in his hands.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: And they use Colston Loveland a lot, right, the tight
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: end as well? Oh, yeah.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: He can split out. I mean, obviously they lost Cole
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Komet for the year. So, you know, they played a
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: lot out of 13 personnel. We'll see if that, you know,
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: I'm sure they have another tight end on the roster.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know who that is off the top of
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: my head or whether they go away from that. But
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: they still will play a lot of 12 personnel with
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: two tight ends.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: What's happened to Roma Dunzey? He hasn't put up the
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: numbers that we thought he would coming out of Washington
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: out here.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: You know, it's funny you say that because I kind of,
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: this past summer, I kind of did a deep dive
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: on Williams and their pass game. And I think Dunzey's solid.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: But I felt after I watched a lot of the
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Bears pass game, I'm not sure he's a great separator
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: at the top of his route step. I think he's
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: a big receiver with good hands. He can make contested catches.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: He can make tough catches. I just don't know. He
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: strikes me as more smooth and fluid than Sutton, and
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: at times he struggles to separate.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Their run game, Greg, at least statistically, looks really good.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: It's very good. Yeah, and sometimes you wonder on paper,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: is it on paper that it looks good? Is it
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: is it just the fact that you know like you
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: have a quarterback that is a running quarterback or you
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: know maybe combination thereof and deandre swift pretty good too.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah i mean they've got a very good old line
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: particularly the right side jackson right guard right at right
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: tackle are phenomenal run blockers that's where they do most
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: of their dirty work in the run game into the
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: right side of the offensive line right is a terrific
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: run blocker now they're obviously playing against a very good
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: d line We'll see how it plays out. As you know,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: they've not given up a 100-yard rusher in something like
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: 37 games, some number like that. And they're just really, really–
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, this defense is really, really good. They're so
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: good up front. And, you know, it's really interesting how
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: I've always believed– we talked about this when Okada had
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: to play, and now he's a starter, but we talked
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: about it last year when he wasn't a starter, that
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: when you put in backups, and I'm mentioning this because
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: of Knight, the linebacker, and they really play at a
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: high level– To me, that's coaching. That tells you how
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: guys are coached, how they take the coaching, because they
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: play the right way. Because I think Knight has played
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: very well the last two weeks. I don't know your thoughts,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: what they say about him, but I think he's played well.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Drake Thomas is back at practice. He looks like
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: he'll be ready to go. But, I mean, that's a
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: good problem to have. I mean, they can use Knight
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: in a variety of ways, right? They can do that.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, look, they can switch back and forth in
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: a If they want to play a true base defense,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: you know, if they want to, you know, with a
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: 5-2 or a 4-3, I mean, if they want to,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: they can switch back and forth, you know. And that gives,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: you know, Emanwari even more versatility if you want to
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: make him, you know, kind of a true safety if
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: you want to decide to play a little more single high.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: You know, there's all kinds of options. And as the
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: season progresses, any season, you know that coaches make slight tweaks,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: slight adjustments, you know, depending on opponents, right? You know,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: so you never know. When you have someone like Eamon Worry,
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: you have a lot of options.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Our friend Hugh Millen calls Eamon Worry, he says his
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: position is SINO, S-I-N-O, safety in name only, is what
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Hugh says.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they use him in so many ways.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's just a really good player. I mean,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: you know, what can you do?
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Well, let me talk about him for a second. Especially
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: if Knight and Thomas, and you have Eamon Worry, you know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: What about the Eamon Worry matchup versus Caleb Williams? Because
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, there's different types of fast quarterbacks in the NFL, right?
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: There's guys that are elusive. There's guys that are sprinter speed.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: There are guys that are small. They're big, what have you.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams with his feet and the ball in his
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: hands seems to be a big part of what they
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: can and will do, and that's a scary thing.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: He's not an explosive athlete in terms of straight line
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: running speed, but he's very strong. He can shake off
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: pressure at times. And get away from it. And that's
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: what he does really, really well. And he can throw
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: it exceptionally well on the run. And with velocity and
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: with distance. So you have to be careful when he
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: gets out of the pocket. But Eamon Worry, I mean,
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: the play that struck me last week.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I know where you're going.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Was when he ran stride for stride with Worthy on
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: the slot feed in the third quarter.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, that's the kind of play where
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: you just go, you know, wow, that's pretty good. You know,
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, he's a safety. He's 6'3 and
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: a half or so. 220, and he runs stride for
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: stride with Worthy.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, I was going to say, Greg,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: was there one play that stuck out last week with
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: him and Worthy? Because we talked about it, everyone talked
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: about it all week. When I'm watching it, you know,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: and I'll be honest with you, it's a Sunday night
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: in Seattle, it's 530, I got a few pops in me,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm just enjoying myself, and I'm watching with
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: my son, who played football, and we're watching, and they
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: show that low-angle replay, and it's like, that's a sprinter
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: speed guy in Xavier Worthy, and that's a 6'4, 225,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: whatever he is safety linebacker running. Like that's one of
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: those wow moments. Like you watch a zillion hours of
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: tape every year. That's one of those things you'll probably remember. Right.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: And I didn't see it live because it was third quarter.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: So I had gone to bed because on Monday mornings
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I'm in the office at five 10. So I didn't
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: see it live. And then I'm watching the tape and
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: I'm like, wow, that's, you know, that's pretty good.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: When Greg Cosell says, wow, that is a compliment. I'm
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: going to tell you that right now. When Greg Cosell
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: throws that out there, that's a big time compliment at
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: that point.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's, you know, it's funny, just a very quick anecdote.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: I know we're probably getting short here, but I remember
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: seeing Emanuari when he was a freshman at South Carolina
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: because they had two or three guys on that defense
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: who were coming out in the draft. So I was
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: watching South Carolina's defense and, you know, doing my sheet
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: on the other guys. And I'm noticing this safety. And
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: I said, who is this guy? You know, figured maybe
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: he's a sophomore or whatever, you know. And I looked
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: him up and he was a true freshman. And I was,
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: I just made a note to myself, this guy is
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: going to be a player. And, you know, it turned
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: out to be that way.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: And then you add that into the Mike McDonald mix,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: the mad scientist that is Mike McDonald. What a great
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: coaching matchup, right? McDonald versus Ben Johnson on Sunday night
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: or Monday night too.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's a fascinating game. And now that you
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: have the Quentin Nelson, Jeffrey Simmons sort of, and you
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: know me, I don't deal in narratives and storylines, but
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is a good one.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: We look forward to it. We'll talk about it next
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Friday and we'll wrap it up then. Thank you, sir.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Have a great week and we'll talk to you soon.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: All right, thanks, Ian. Appreciate it.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell, the great Greg Cosell. Always great having him
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: on every week as well. We'll take a break. We'll
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: come back with more 93.3 KJFM. Good afternoon. It is
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: a Washington State Beef Commission Football Friday. Beef, it's what's
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: for dinner. Let's go. Having fun. Weird because we don't
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: have a game until Monday, so we'll be at Jimmy's
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: on first. It looks like everybody. We'll be at Jimmy's
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: on first, except for the morning show, I think, on Monday,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: starting at 10 o'clock with Greg Bell. I'll be there
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: and then Softie and Fane afterwards as well. Getting ready
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: for the kickoff of Monday Night Football. Seahawks taking on
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: the Bears. Bears 5-2, Seattle 4-3. Last week, Seattle saw
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: the No. 1 team in the NFL in total offense.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: This week, they'll see No. 3. They'll see the No.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: 1 rush offense, which is a weird stat because their
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: rushing numbers aren't like one. Usually, you see a team
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: that's No. 1 in rushing numbers, You're like, okay, well,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: it's because someone's on pace to have like a 1,500-yard year.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: That's not the case. DeAndre Swift actually only has 75
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: more yards than Emmanuel Wilson this year.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, really?
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Right, but the quarterback runs.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: And they've got depth at running back, too, as well.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: As far as the rest of their offense, pass offense
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: is 13th. Points per game, they're averaging 25.7, which is 8th.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Of course, we know Seattle total defense won. Pass defense
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: is 1. Rush defense is 6. Points allowed is 4th.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Just another great matchup, Ashley, for the Seahawks and this
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald defense against a really good offense. I think
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: we were pretty consistent last week. Correct me if I'm wrong.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: We were not running afraid of Ken Walker and the
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Chiefs last week.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: We repeatedly brought up that the Seahawks defense has not
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: allowed a 100-yard rusher, and we didn't think they were
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: going to allow one on Sunday.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: And I don't think they'll allow one on Monday either.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: My bigger concern is what Cosell just told us a
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: second ago. Caleb Williams' ability to move and throw on
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: the run, and Mahomes has that as well. The difference
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: is Mahomes doesn't have the same level of wide receivers
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: or receivers as a whole, including tight end. I know
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Kelsey's Kelsey, blah, blah, blah. I think he married a
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: pop star. But listen.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: I've heard that.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Colson Loveland's becoming more of a focal point for them,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: especially with Kemet out, and Luther Burden's a problem. They
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: had their own version. Did Kansas City, Luther Burden, his
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: name's Xavier Worthy. He just has been a non-factor.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: And they had a lot of injuries, too.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: And they had a lot of injuries, yeah. I mean,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Rasheed Rice is back this week. He didn't play last week. Now,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Softee brings that up all the time. I always counter with,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: so does Seattle.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Like, your top two running backs are out.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: The only reason I bring that up is because the
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Bears don't.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: They don't. And then Jeffrey Simmons, you throw him into
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: the mix as well. I mean, it's a great matchup
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: coming up this weekend.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be awesome.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Our friends, the 49ers, your friends and mine, the 49ers,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: they are on a bye week this week. And our
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: other friends, the Rams, have what should be, I would assume,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: a relatively easy game.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: I would assume they would beat up on the Chargers
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: if they don't.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Here's what I'm holding out hope for there. This is
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: the weird, perverse, okay, there's always a hope, a chance.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: The Chargers probably aren't going to go 0-17.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: No, they're definitely not.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: I just don't know that their first win is going
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: to come against the Rams. Even though the Rams' defense
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: isn't what we expected it to be, the Rams' offense
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: is still pretty good.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: God, the 1 o'clock window is awful.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's maybe when I'll take a nap.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Chargers-Rams, Chiefs-Broncos, Patriots-Dolphins, Eagles-Commanders.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Ooh.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: That may be when I head up to the Snoqualmie
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Casino right about 1 o'clock and get a little sicko
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: live betting going on or something, getting something going on
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: with that, and then maybe get some juice on the
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Sunday night game, which is also a combined 3-9-1, the
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: combined records for the Eagles and the Commanders at Sunday
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: night football.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: What do you think the NFL does when they put
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: the schedule together and then they look at how the
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: season starts and they.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Think, oh, man.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Well, the first thing they look at is really simple.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: It's market size.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: And fan following. I mean, Green Bay is not a
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: big market, but Green Bay has a fan following, that
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: type of thing. NFC East, all four of those NFC
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: East teams, people believe, you know, the NFC or the
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: league believes are big draws. I don't know anybody that
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: wants to ever watch the Giants. I mean, they're a
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: little more watchable now, but not much.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: I think, is this the, let me look. I saw
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: it earlier.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Hang on.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Because I want to see, I think it's next week
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: or two weeks from now is when they can start
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: flexing games out. Okay.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Cause that's the first thing I thought of is like,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: why is this game being played? Yeah. And actually two
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: weeks from now. So September, November 15th.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: That's when the, that's when the schedule becomes flexible. Okay.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: That's when you can start doing that. So, because I mean,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: let's be honest, who wants to watch this?
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: It's a great question.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, who really wants to watch this game?
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Great question.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize the Seahawks were playing on Saturday, December 19th. Oh,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: are they?
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: That's a weird one.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: Actually, you know, we were talking to somebody a couple
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: weeks ago, and I don't remember who it was, and
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: maybe it was Steve Palazzolo talking about how the Seahawks
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: will have played almost on every day of the week
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: that football is available, because they start it Wednesday.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: They'll play Wednesday, Thursday.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: They've got Thursday. They've got Friday.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Friday against the Rams, which is Christmas.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Saturday. And then they've got Saturday.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Wow. Sunday and Monday.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: So maybe that's why they're playing the Eagles on the Saturday,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: and then they play the Rams on the Friday, on Christmas.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, that makes sense.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: That was a weird one.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: It is a weird one.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Anyway, we'll keep an eye on that. We'll come back.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Hour number two will feature Danny O'Neill. What time is Danny?
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: 1.20 today, right? Yeah, 1.20.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: 1.20.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Danny's at 1.20 today. And then 2 o'clock hour, we'll
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: be busy. Rob Rang will join us. We've got Fact
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: or Fiction.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Don't forget to send us your talkbacks, too, by the way.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: 49451 on the text. But, yeah, we want to hear talkbacks.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Your thoughts heading into the weekend, 49451 as well. But
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: go to the red microphone on the iHeartRadio app. Fire away.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Let's hear from you. All that coming up, 93.3 KGRFM.