Latest / Chef's PSA Podcast / Real Chef Consulting: Sales, Costs, and Quality Ep. 47
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- 0:00Hello chefs. You're listening to chefs.
- 0:01PS a podcast. I'm your host on Trina.
- 0:03Tara on today's episode, I'm going to be your Chef
- 0:05consultant. Stay tuned.
- 0:18So before we get started, let me give you a brief update on
- 0:21things that I've been up to. I think, first and foremost, I
- 0:24should tell you, I spent the whole fucking day editing.
- 0:27I just wrapped up the bad sooo good Chef book.
- 0:31It was a lot of work. I spent a lot of time editing.
- 0:33No proof read it, I read it already again.
- 0:35I get it through an editor and it's done and most likely I'll
- 0:40publish it. Mid next week by Friday.
- 0:44It'll be out. If you follow me on Instagram,
- 0:47I'll announce the day that it's live on Amazon that you go get
- 0:50the paper back. Most likely I'll put an e-book
- 0:53on gumroad available for downloads.
- 0:55The reason I do it on gum roses because I think the quality is
- 0:58better than an e-book on Amazon, but I will also do an e-book on
- 1:02Amazon. Then will immediately get into
- 1:04the production of the audio book but the pentacene book.
- 1:08For those of you that have been following along, it's a
- 1:09conversation between Two Chefs that is fiction.
- 1:12My first try to fix it, I don't know if it's good.
- 1:14I like it. Anyway.
- 1:15I think it's was inspired by a lot of the q&a's that I do on
- 1:19Sundays. So, if you follow me on
- 1:21Instagram, you know that I do a cigar Sunday Q&A, it's the
- 1:24opportunity that you all have to interact with me, H to do Q&A on
- 1:29the podcast, that it's just easier for me to do a weekly I
- 1:32guess smoke. My cigar, have a whiskey chill.
- 1:36Answer questions, engage with you all.
- 1:40But that was really the inspiration behind the book was
- 1:43these q&a's. I noticed a lot of the same
- 1:45questions come up and it's an opportunity for me to address
- 1:48them. You know what I'm sitting down
- 1:49longer format and I'm actually thinking about my answers and
- 1:52it's not whiskey influenced, I should say, But anyway, this is
- 1:58the fifth book in the chef's psh series.
- 2:01It's very different from all of them.
- 2:02It's Unique. It's going to stand on its own.
- 2:06And it's a conversation format. So if you like that style, I'll
- 2:08think you'll like this book a lot.
- 2:11I know the few people that I've given that to, to proofread and
- 2:14to get feedback from, they really enjoy it.
- 2:16So I'm hoping that you all enjoy it.
- 2:17There's a lot of good information there in terms of
- 2:20leadership and a lot of questions that people have when
- 2:24they're new into a sous chef position.
- 2:28Some other things that I'm up to is I will be doing a guest Chef
- 2:32dinner in Dallas pretty soon with some great chefs.
- 2:36Part of the Texas food and water lines more to come.
- 2:39But we'll be cooking over at Jose with Anastasia.
- 2:41Canon has, she's a James Beard nominated Chef.
- 2:44She's fantastic. Good friend.
- 2:48She makes great food and I think the other day her and I were
- 2:52talking, I said, look, I'm retired, I'm helping organize
- 2:55the dinner, I said I'm retired, but if you needed extra Chef,
- 2:58I'll come out of retirement for years.
- 3:00Like you'll come out of retirement, for Mitzi, I'll come
- 3:01out of retirement for you. I think she was being sarcastic,
- 3:04but anyway, I'm coming out of retirement so far.
- 3:06One day only, I'm going to go cook with her and some other
- 3:08chefs. I think it'll be fun.
- 3:10So if you're going to be in Dallas in the area you should go
- 3:12to that dinner and support Texas.
- 3:14We don't want an alliance. It's part of the wine and dine
- 3:16tears that they're doing. Maybe I'll organize a meet and
- 3:21greet afterwards. You maybe we could have a cigar
- 3:23night in Dallas. So anyway that's coming up in
- 3:28June, stay tuned for more information.
- 3:31The other thing little teaser I'm working on something behind
- 3:34the scenes. You know, one of my favorite
- 3:36Chef podcast is the sushil podcast.
- 3:38Sucio, talk David Soucie. Oh, I enjoy listening to that
- 3:43podcast. And you know, we've gotten to
- 3:45know each other over the course of time.
- 3:46We talk a lot on the phone and we've wanted to do a
- 3:49collaboration for some time but we're just never at the same
- 3:51city at the same time where we could just sit down.
- 3:53We want to do a face-to-face 0 instead of over jail.
- 3:57And so we're working on something.
- 3:58I can't tell you what we're working on, but I think it's
- 4:01going to be fun because a lot of people message me and say you
- 4:03need to listen to the sushi of podcasts.
- 4:05I'm like I already listened to sucio podcast.
- 4:07I'm a fan. people tell him the same thing so we can have a
- 4:12collab we're working on something, maybe it'll be like
- 4:15that route, a and Nas concert where they went on the New York
- 4:18State of Mind, or maybe we'll do like Sushi.
- 4:22Oh chefs. PS a tool anyway, we'll see.
- 4:24We'll see where that goes. But more to come.
- 4:27Keep an eye out for that. Go listen to Shield.
- 4:29Talk also more to come, but let's talk about Chef
- 4:34Consulting. The people may or may not know
- 4:37this, but I often go to places and get hired as a chef
- 4:40consultant and the good, you know, how to see the great thing
- 4:42about being a consultant is you go in and you fix the problems.
- 4:45A lot of the Consulting work that I do in a lot of the
- 4:47consultant work as chefs do, sometimes, it's very specific to
- 4:50the needs. Of the people that are hiring
- 4:53you, they might want you to go in and just say, hey we have
- 4:56sanitation issues, come in here and fix it.
- 4:58Right, a hassle plan, get us go straight.
- 5:01Other times, it's like hey, our finances are out of control.
- 5:03We don't know where to we, don't know where to look to cost us
- 5:06crazy. We're not making any money.
- 5:08Money's walking out the door. How do we fix it other times?
- 5:11It's just like a food issue. Like our menu screwed up.
- 5:14We to increase quality food. Sometimes it's just, can you
- 5:16write the menu for us, or can you create recipes for us?
- 5:20Other times it's like can you come in and be a mentor for the
- 5:22shop and hates a whole pants but just kind of hold hands get them
- 5:26up to speed put some training wheels on and get them on the
- 5:29right path and other times it's like we don't have a chef we
- 5:32don't know what we're doing. Fix it, do what you will.
- 5:37I truly do. Enjoy the consultant work.
- 5:42And I might be giving away some of my Consulting Secrets today,
- 5:45but this is like a free Chef consultation for anyone that's
- 5:49listening. This would be what I would do
- 5:52when I go into a place. So we talked about a couple of
- 5:55different scenarios but let's let me, let me go through,
- 5:58probably the most common ones that are go through the most
- 6:01common one that I go through. It's probably two things fixed
- 6:04the food or fix the finances. Usually, those are the big two
- 6:07because that's really what people need to keep the
- 6:09restaurant open and sustainable. It's like the food is aware.
- 6:12needs to be or we're not making money, like we should Now, if
- 6:17we're, if we're looking at it from a money standpoint, it's
- 6:19usually two things, it's easy, it's usually either a sales
- 6:22problem or it's a cost problem. It's sometimes easier to fix a
- 6:26cost problem than a sales problem because there might be a
- 6:30whole lot of reasons. You know, maybe if you got a bad
- 6:32with you, maybe you're in a bad location that you can't fix that
- 6:35quite as easy. But a cost problem, you could go
- 6:37in and you can look at the menu, and then, you can start making
- 6:40adjustments to the menu to correct some of those food cost
- 6:44issue. Now, I should say, it's not
- 6:46always a food. Just issue.
- 6:47Sometimes it's a price issue. So if the food cost is too high,
- 6:52everyone automatically assumed the first thing we need to do is
- 6:55cut costs and lower the food cost.
- 6:57That's not always the case. You also lower food cost by
- 7:00raising prices and sometimes fuel price themselves too low
- 7:04because they think that cheap is good.
- 7:09I'm not a subscriber to cheek is good.
- 7:11I think that you should always be at the top of the market in
- 7:13whatever Market that you're in. So top of the market appear, the
- 7:15luxury Market. Top of the market of here, the
- 7:17Casual Market, if you're in fast-casual Market, I also think
- 7:20the same thing. You should be top of the market,
- 7:22right. Everyone else will start to
- 7:24raise their prices to get closer to you, otherwise, it's a race
- 7:28to the bottom and that's never a good thing.
- 7:30So, the two things that you could look at is one, you could
- 7:32look at your food cost or two, you could look at your sales
- 7:35price. So the first thing I do when I
- 7:37go in as I analyze menus and I analyzed the competitive set, so
- 7:41competitive set are other restaurants that you're
- 7:43competing against that are similar in style.
- 7:47I could be people in your neighborhood or that could be
- 7:49people, you know. Again, I'll use this example.
- 7:52If you're going into a hotel and you were analyzing the
- 7:55competitive set, it might be other hotels that are in that
- 7:58same Market of the same size, or it might be hotels of that size
- 8:03in another Market, that's your in a secondary Market to
- 8:06secondary Market, will primary market, and so on, But what you
- 8:10didn't want to do is you're going to want to analyze the
- 8:12menu compared to them. So simple, things like you
- 8:15create a spreadsheet, you look at the top moving items and you
- 8:18look and you see, okay? They sell their coffee for this,
- 8:21we sell our coffee for that and you say where do we want to be
- 8:23in the market? Sometimes there's a lot of
- 8:26pushback because like I said, people are reluctant to be top
- 8:29of the market. I always encourage them.
- 8:30You want to be top of the market, if you are trying to be
- 8:33the best, right? People pay for the best.
- 8:35Now if you're not going to back up what you're doing, then maybe
- 8:38you don't want to be top of the market but that's a whole other
- 8:40conversation. We'll talk about that when we
- 8:42get into the food quality part. After you've done menu analysis,
- 8:47and you've looked at the competitive set, you want to
- 8:49look at where there's opportunities and there's,
- 8:52there's a tool called menu engineering and basically what
- 8:54this is, is it takes the data that you give it.
- 8:57So the menu item the cost of the menu item, the food cost percent
- 9:02of the menu item and how much money that menu item greatest to
- 9:06the bottom line and how many of your salad so that way it'll
- 9:09tell you. Hey this menu item is really
- 9:12doing the majority of the lifting for the other menu item
- 9:14in this menu item. Even though it's selling a lot,
- 9:17it's not very profitable and this menu item over here doesn't
- 9:23sell at all. And it cost you a lot of money,
- 9:25you should take off the menu. Something that would call a dog,
- 9:27right? So when you look at your menu,
- 9:30Matrix menu, engineering tool you want to look at items that
- 9:35are dogs, who want to get rid of them.
- 9:36And you want to look at items that are doing really, really
- 9:39well like your work horses and how do you enhance that?
- 9:42And then you might want to look at items that are very popular
- 9:45but not very profitable at they popping you make them more
- 9:48profitable I'm not going to teach you how to do that on a
- 9:52podcast right now because that does require some sub skills for
- 9:56you to download a program where you might need to build it on
- 9:58Excel. But I'm sure you could find it
- 10:01out there. Maybe I'll create one for you
- 10:03guys. If you guys don't have one if I
- 10:04have time, maybe I want to commit to that.
- 10:09But anyway, once you have your menu engineering tool that you
- 10:12could figure out where you need to make either you either day to
- 10:16raise the price, you need to lower the food cost, that's one
- 10:18approach. Another very simple approaches.
- 10:22If you're looking at food cost alone is you could look at if
- 10:25you want to make an impact, is what I'll say you need to fish,
- 10:27where the fish are the old expression of you don't climb a
- 10:31tree to look for fish. If you've ever heard that
- 10:33expression, right? You wouldn't climb a tree to go?
- 10:35Look for a fish. And we do that a lot of times
- 10:38like we try and find the Where there is no problems to be
- 10:41found. So if you're looking for a cost
- 10:43problem where you would look, as you would say, What are our most
- 10:49sold items? That's where the problem is.
- 10:53Where are the least sold items? That's where the problem is
- 10:56because the items that are not moving, like let's just use this
- 10:59as an example. What's the most expensive thing
- 11:01in your kitchen? It's the thing that is in the
- 11:04trash because that's 100 percent food cost waste, if that makes
- 11:08sense. If you're following me here with
- 11:09the logic. So, another way to do it is you
- 11:13would look at your top ten ten items that you that you
- 11:16purchase. So you could run what's called a
- 11:18descending were Fort from a lot of vendors and it'll tell you,
- 11:21okay? These are the top 10 things that
- 11:23you spend your money on, right? So your biggest fan, maybe it's
- 11:26bacon, maybe it's your proteins, most likely it's going to be
- 11:28proteins and dairy Seafood. There's like that, right?
- 11:31That's what cost the most money. And then you're going to say,
- 11:33okay, if you want to save money, You're going to save dollars in
- 11:38your top spend items. You're not going to say dollars
- 11:41in your low, spend on it. So for example, if you spend ten
- 11:46thousand dollars a month on be on a specific steak.
- 11:51Well, if you shave one ounce, you're going to save a lot of
- 11:53money on that be for if you switch vendors and you find a
- 11:56lower price feature to save a lot of money.
- 11:58But let's just say you're spending like 80 bucks a month
- 12:01on salt. And I've seen this before, like,
- 12:02well, if we switch Saul Brands will save money because this
- 12:05salt is she purrs? Like, yeah, but you're not
- 12:06spending any money on salt. That's the, that's the point
- 12:09that I'm trying to make is don't climb a tree looking for a fish
- 12:12who, like, you're looking in the wrong spot.
- 12:14Fish where the fish oil. So if you want to make an
- 12:17improvements in your call side, you want to look at the items
- 12:20that are costing, you the most amount of money.
- 12:22So look at that descending. We're for look at the menu,
- 12:26engineering to look at the grid and see where you can make the
- 12:28biggest impact, right? Focus on your top 10 items,
- 12:32right? Now, the same sort of principle
- 12:35applies to food quality as well. Now maybe that 10 out of sight,
- 12:40again, I have no idea how large the menu is that I may be
- 12:42consulted, but if you go into a place and they're like, hey, we
- 12:46need to fix the food quality if you ran a report through their
- 12:51point of sale system, and you looked at What are your most
- 12:56popular items and you say we sell these five items right
- 13:01within those. Five items are driving the
- 13:03majority of the comments that you're getting for feedback.
- 13:06That's those five. Items are driving the majority
- 13:08of the complaints that you're getting, right?
- 13:10So you would look at that and then you fix those five, right?
- 13:13If you went into a restaurant and you said, hey, You're
- 13:19selling 100 Burgers a day. And you're so lonely selling 10
- 13:23of everything else and you just make a Better Burger, you're
- 13:25going to improve the restaurant. That's it, like just just focus
- 13:27on that. The problem that we get when we
- 13:30go into Consulting as we think that there's like this magic
- 13:33answer and that you got to look somewhere else.
- 13:34It's like no, you just got to look at the top performing
- 13:37things and that's where you're gonna have your biggest impact.
- 13:39You, if you want to make the biggest impact right away, you
- 13:42look, the things that either, where your greatest dollar spend
- 13:45is or the items that are selling the most.
- 13:48Are driving the feedback, right? Negative or positive.
- 13:51That's where you want to. Look is like I said fish, where
- 13:54the fish are. I hope you guys are following my
- 13:57train of thought. You liked cut-offs, my own
- 14:00Trails out here for a sec. Now, the other thing that
- 14:04happens when you go into a place and you work as a consultant,
- 14:07sometimes you're going in and you're you're helping them like
- 14:10ship, the kitchen culture or like I said, you're kind of,
- 14:14you're kind of showing the show. Hey, this is the way it is.
- 14:17I know, I know, I know this one makes raised a lot of places
- 14:19where I go in and they'll say, hey, we need you to consult.
- 14:22They were having problems with the shop.
- 14:23A lot of the problems that I have and chefs, I know you're
- 14:26listening, right? Only chefs and Cooks were really
- 14:28listening to the show. A lot of the things that owners
- 14:31tell me or general, Managers or whatever?
- 14:34Where were the chef's bosses? That happens to hire gay.
- 14:37The sometimes they just say, my chef doesn't get it, you help
- 14:39them get it. And when I go and I look at it,
- 14:41like, what is it that they don't get.
- 14:43The number one thing that I see that they don't get is they're
- 14:45trying to cook food. That is not on the concept.
- 14:49So I'll give you an example. Let's just say they have a
- 14:53casual restaurant and maybe it's a mom-and-pop spot and they just
- 14:56want to do like Neighborhood, Italian food and they hire some
- 14:59young up-and-coming chef with a big ego and they want to Will
- 15:04their food Molecular Gastronomy? And they got like spaghetti
- 15:07noodles made with with hydrocolloids and it's coming
- 15:14out of a God. It's like a noodle made out of
- 15:16gel and it's like well that that and it's a Parmesan foam and
- 15:19they watch a little too much Massimo but Torah.
- 15:21And they're trying to do that in a neighborhood restaurant
- 15:23instead of just doing the classics that they want.
- 15:26Normally that's the number one problem I have is like like
- 15:29cooks that are punching above their weight when they shouldn't
- 15:31be They're normally not making food on the level of the
- 15:38restaurant and when you do that, let me tell you what it looks
- 15:40like when you're punching above your weight.
- 15:42And you're trying to make something that does it, that the
- 15:44concept it makes the restaurant worse, actually, because the
- 15:47people that are coming in there, seemed like this local
- 15:49Neighborhood Restaurant and then they come in.
- 15:51It's like I was just looking for chicken parm, and you got me
- 15:55like this. You know, this this parmesan are
- 15:59dish with just the edge of the lasagna.
- 16:03Anyway, you can you get my point is sometimes it the food.
- 16:07Just doesn't make sense for what they're doing, and the ovaries
- 16:09are like, hey, you're the chef that we got, they're very
- 16:11creative. They're, they're very energetic.
- 16:13And they want to set the world on fire, but it's just not what
- 16:15the neighborhood was. That's normally the, that's
- 16:18normally the number one thing that I get from Consultants.
- 16:22When it comes to you, hey, we want you to talk to our chefs
- 16:24like that. That's it.
- 16:27Now I'll talk about this just briefly because if it's not that
- 16:30the chef is trying too hard and make you food, that's not on
- 16:34concept, it's usually that the concept is maybe above their
- 16:38skill level, but they really like the chef.
- 16:40So, a lot of times, you'll see, they really like this person,
- 16:44they've been there forever, the chef quit, and then it's if
- 16:47you've worked in a restaurant, you know how the easiest way to
- 16:49get promoted is like the chef walks off.
- 16:51The job is like hey your left, you're the new Shepherd of the
- 16:53new shop, right? You're the last person here.
- 16:57When is it happening in that situation is maybe this person
- 17:00has been promoted into position and now they have to do things
- 17:03that they're not used to doing and that thing that usually
- 17:05throws them off as now, they have to create and they have to
- 17:08create food to the concept that they, they know how to execute
- 17:11but they don't know how to create it, right?
- 17:13And they don't know where to look.
- 17:14And a lot of the times that you go in it's like, hey, I just
- 17:18need to teach you again. I'm using Italian concept
- 17:21example. I just teach you like Italian
- 17:24kid, like quick thinking about all this other shit that you
- 17:26need to learn, you don't need to learn about French food.
- 17:28You don't need to learn about the latest gimmicks in plating.
- 17:32You don't need to learn about foraging.
- 17:34Like right now, you just need to learn the basics of Italian food
- 17:37and a lot of times it's like it's like you just got to go to
- 17:40the chef and like, I'm sure you've seen this quarter Ramsey
- 17:44thing where you put, like, write on their ears and there's an
- 17:46idiot sandwich, like not say that they're idiots.
- 17:49But what I am saying is like, they need to turn down the noise
- 17:51like they needed. They're focusing on all these
- 17:53other things like hey you just need to focus on this concept.
- 17:57This type of food. Quit worrying about all that
- 17:59other shit. Quick worrying that you don't
- 18:01know this or you don't know that.
- 18:03That is honestly one of the best ways.
- 18:06To keep your job because normally what I was up happening
- 18:10is that Chef is stubborn and then like then you have to make
- 18:13the recommendation to the elderly.
- 18:15You might need a part ways with this place and they just don't
- 18:18get it. Anyway, that is my free
- 18:22Consulting advice for today. So if you could take anything
- 18:25away from it, it's this like let's summarize it make it
- 18:26really short and concise. Number one, if you're going to
- 18:30fix the cost and you to find out where you're going to have the
- 18:32biggest impact, look at your top items that are sold or look at
- 18:35the top items. It's where you're spending,
- 18:37that's how you're going to fix cost issues.
- 18:40If it's a sales issue, same thing.
- 18:42Look at the items that are selling and maybe you need to
- 18:44adjust the price and you need to do a market analysis.
- 18:50If it's a quality issue, look at your bottom selling items and
- 18:53look at your top selling items, that's where you need to put X,
- 18:57if you're the chef, and they're bringing someone like me.
- 18:59And to come evaluate view more than likely, it's one or two
- 19:03reasons. You're either trying to cook
- 19:05food, that is not on concept, or you don't understand the concept
- 19:09in your thinking about everything else.
- 19:10But the concept simplify focus on what it is that you're
- 19:14supposed to do and do that food and do extremely well.
- 19:17Don't let your ego get involved in think that you got to say.
- 19:19Set the world on fire in this neighborhood restaurant, know
- 19:22your audience and cook for them. That's a very fast way to find
- 19:26yourself out of a job. He's at the end of the day, a
- 19:29lot of these people that are hiring Consultants.
- 19:31It's normally because there's a problem and most likely if they
- 19:33don't turn it around quickly, they're losing money and they
- 19:36may lose their business. Anyway, your free consultation,
- 19:41I should charge you for this podcast.
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