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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Sunday, September tenth. I'm your host,
- 0:03tom Or. The Western Kentucky game is in six days. The game against
- 0:07Michigan in seventy six days, Game two of the regular season. In the
- 0:11books, Kevin Nowton joins me from Ohio Stadium. We're going to be recapping
- 0:15the buckeyes thirty five seven win over Youngstown State. But Kevin, I think
- 0:20even more than the game itself, the final score, the storyline coming out
- 0:26of that is Okay, So what's going on with the quarterbacks? Has Ohio
- 0:29State found a clear enough separation that you're at the point where, okay,
- 0:35it's time to make a decision on the quarterback? Yeah, And we had
- 0:39the chance in the postgame interviews. I mean, of course that was a
- 0:42question. Everybody wanted to kind of find out what was going on, and
- 0:47Ryan Day wasn't ready to show his hand. But I guess you don't have
- 0:50to be a body language expert or one of these, you know, psychology
- 0:55type guys to go through it. I think that we're getting there at this
- 0:59point. I mean, certainly with the way that the snaps kind of broke
- 1:02down, certainly with what we saw in the field, we certainly have not
- 1:06gotten to the point of where we've said, Okay, well this guy is
- 1:10just significantly beyond because you know, we're looking at a thirty five point output
- 1:15against Young Sound State. I think a lot of people, I mean,
- 1:18especially Vegas with a forty four point line. I mean, Ohio State certainly
- 1:21didn't cover at that point. But we are getting to that point, and
- 1:26I think that it's getting to that that window of where you have to I
- 1:30mean, I think you need to be able to go into Western Kentucky with
- 1:34a clear idea because you've got Notre Dame lurking the week after. Yeah,
- 1:38if Ohio State had Michigan schedule where you have one more nonpower team and then
- 1:45you've got Rutgers the week after that, maybe you've got a little more time
- 1:49to sort of hem and hall about this and play out the string a little
- 1:53bit more. You got Notre Dame in two weeks. The Notre Dame game.
- 1:57It's not in the countdown yet, but it's in thirteen days. You
- 2:00gotta you gotta start not only the game reps and getting the offense sort of
- 2:06in its rhythm and in the flow and having a consistent guy there. It's
- 2:09really to mean more about the practice reps and getting Kyle mccor because they've been
- 2:13splitting them and I don't know if it's exactly fifty fifty, if they've been
- 2:15splitting them all through fall camp and even the last two weeks Devin Brown getting
- 2:20a bunch of reps with the ones. I think you're at the point now
- 2:23where if you're comfortable with Kyle mccor at having separated from Devin Brown, and
- 2:27I think you'll look at the game film from the first two weeks and you're
- 2:30you know, he came into the season ahead. I don't think it's gotten
- 2:35closer, so it may have gotten a little bit, you know, a
- 2:38little bit more of a bigger gap. You're probably at the point where you
- 2:42need to say, Okay, we're going to make a decision. This is
- 2:45a decision, and you've got to you know, you've got to give all
- 2:47those reps of the ones the next week and then you know, next two
- 2:51weeks going into Notre Dame. But you know, you gotta take it one
- 2:53game at the time. Kevin the next week going into that Western Kentucky game,
- 2:58you almost have to kind to make a decision and just say, okay,
- 3:00look, you're still going to play at some point, like we're not
- 3:05saying goodbye and you're one snap away if Kyle mccorn gets hurt or whatever.
- 3:08But you kind of got to make a decision. Well, that's a thing.
- 3:12In through fall camp they were able to run two fields, and you
- 3:15can't really do that in game week because all right, that's all well and
- 3:21good. You're you're out there and you're running with half your line or whatever,
- 3:24or is whoever your second quarterback really getting a good look because they're going
- 3:30against the second line anyway, So you need to make sure that you do
- 3:32have your guy picks so you can have all those reps. I mean,
- 3:37and as we know that the way that practice schedule goes, Tuesday, bloody
- 3:40Tuesday is going to be the most physical practice. Wednesday is still pretty pretty
- 3:45stout. You know, on Thursday you start backing them down and then you
- 3:47you know, you have best Fridays in football. If if Ryan carried that
- 3:52over from Urban, I don't know, But so, yeah, you've got
- 3:57to make this decision. And I think that we're at that point where the
- 4:00decision has been made whether or not Ryan Day is ready to say it or
- 4:04not. Yeah, and he didn't make that. He didn't announce it after
- 4:09the game on Saturday. But you know, to me, this feels very
- 4:12much like an Okay, go back into the office on Sunday morning, watch
- 4:16the film, make sure you really saw what you thought you saw, and
- 4:20you know, we'll rewatch the game as well, Tony and I'll do a
- 4:24Buckeye weekly on things we learned rewatching the game, and sometimes you'll come away
- 4:29with a different impression. But you know, I'm walking out of the stadium
- 4:31on Saturday night thinking it's probably going to be klm accord. It probably should
- 4:36be Kyle McCord. So just to kind of give you the numbers, there,
- 4:41fourteen to twenty, two hundred and fifty eight yards, three touchdowns,
- 4:44seventy percent completions for Kyl McCord, Devin Brown seven for thirteen, one hundred
- 4:47and one yards, no touchdowns, no picks, fifty four percent completion and
- 4:51then kym accord had one rush for one yard on a third and ten.
- 4:56That was probably not a great decision to try and run, you know,
- 4:59and you finished nine yards behind the line, is you know, behind the
- 5:01yard to gain Devin Brown on fourth and five he got tackled maybe for a
- 5:08loss or a very short gain, where another one where you got to,
- 5:11you know, probably not a great decision. You're probably trying to do too
- 5:14much. He finished with six carries for nine yards. So, you know,
- 5:16the running that we kept hearing about with Devin Brown, and you've seen
- 5:21a little bit on you know, high school highlights and stuff that hasn't really
- 5:26materialized yet at the college level. So I think that's another thing where if
- 5:30Devin Brown was running so much better and was showing incredible escapability, maybe that's
- 5:33a point of differentiation with some questions and the offensive line, but you just
- 5:38you haven't really seen it, so you're probably sort of all the data feels
- 5:43like it's sort of pointing in the same direction. Let's talk about that offensive
- 5:46line though, because it was not great week one, it feels like it
- 5:53wasn't great week two. There were a couple of penalties. The rushing was
- 5:57you know, Travian Henderson hit a big one, hit a third yarder.
- 6:00He ended up at eleven point two yards per carry just five carries or fifty
- 6:02six yards. Mine Williams four point two yards per carry, jip train him
- 6:06three point three yards per carry Xavier Johnson four yards of carry. You gotta
- 6:12be able to do better than that against an FCS team, right, So,
- 6:16as you said it wasn't great week one, was it was it less
- 6:19great week two? I mean, I don't think we saw as many procedural
- 6:24errors as we saw prior, but execution still is not there, and it's
- 6:30not I mean, everybody has decided, well, this player or that player
- 6:33isn't getting it done. I don't think anybody really had a great game,
- 6:40if we're being honest, and I'll be curious to see what happens when they
- 6:43start to great champions. Can they have a point of coming out of a
- 6:46win where you have zero champions on your starting offensive line. I think it's
- 6:50I think it's quite possible, and it certainly was even to the point of
- 6:55your veterans. And Matt Jones and Donovan Jackson both had their issues as well,
- 6:59So I don't know what the fix is going to be there. I
- 7:03use this phrase way too much, but you can't really get out there and
- 7:05do engine repairs at thirty five thousand feet on your plane. You're gotta you
- 7:10gotta kind of ride with what you got, but they're gonna need to sort
- 7:13some things out and I think that they're going to have to execute better,
- 7:15is what it just comes down to. It's easy for us to say that
- 7:18we're not the ones out there sweating in the trenches, but it's I mean
- 7:23something, something has got to change. Well, after week one, they
- 7:27talked about the fact that, you know, it wasn't these guys can't do
- 7:30it, it's you know, hey, this guy's you're blocking the wrong guy,
- 7:32You're you're you know, you're making the wrong decision at this point something
- 7:35like that. That's stuff that you can fix, but you gotta fix it.
- 7:40You gotta you know, a problem that is solvable, that's great,
- 7:45but you actually got to solve the problem. That's and that's where we had
- 7:48a lot of folks on our postgame show in the comments asking, you know,
- 7:51can they can they have someone else go play one of these positions and
- 7:56you shuffle these guys around, and you really don't want to be doing in
- 8:00that in the in the season. They didn't want to be doing that in
- 8:03fall camp. They shuffled guys the first week of fall camp and then they
- 8:05kind of said, Okay, this is what it's going to be. And
- 8:09at the time, we looked at that and said, well, Okay,
- 8:11they obviously are feeling good about this because they haven't shuffled it again. Maybe
- 8:16I mean, maybe they were just feeling less bad. Yeah, I mean,
- 8:20maybe this is the best of the situation that you're in. They've you
- 8:24know, and I'm sure that there are folks who are going to blame Justin
- 8:28Fry for this sort of reflectively the offensive line coach, I gotta remember this
- 8:33is only his second year an offensive line as a position where it is maybe
- 8:37the single most developmental position in the college game. You know, you can
- 8:41you can have a guy come in and play wide receiver his first season.
- 8:45Cardinal Tate has been out there a whole bunch of snaps already in games one
- 8:48and two of his true freshman season. You've seen running backs. You've seen
- 8:52JK. Dobbins come in and do that. You saw Mike Webber come in
- 8:54and do that for you know, freshman season offensive line that takes a couple
- 9:00of years for guys to get up the strength, guys to get up the
- 9:01technique, all that kind of stuff. And you had some misses in the
- 9:05end of the Greg stdwar era where boy, you know, yeah they hit
- 9:09on Paris Johnson, Yeah they hit and Luke Whibbler, those guys are off
- 9:13to the NFL. You've had some other misses in some of these classes where
- 9:18you're not going to hit one hundred percent because it is such a developmental and
- 9:20projectable position. But you know that this is something that is going to take
- 9:26This is not a problem that's necessarily going to be solved overnight. You've got
- 9:28to just you gotta do whatever you gotta do to figure it out at this
- 9:31point, right, And you're right on the misses. And how much would
- 9:35Ohio State loved to have at JC Latham who looked like Ohio State was the
- 9:41team to beat there and covid check to everything down and he just picks Alabama
- 9:46and he's doing very well at Alabama. I mean, Ohio States certainly it
- 9:50benefited in some of its landing of players because of it too. But you
- 9:54know, the offensive line has not been really there. And you sit there
- 9:58and you look at this true freshman class. Does Luke Montgomery really start to
- 10:03enter the discussion more? Do you? I mean people want to talk about
- 10:07kicking Donovan Jackson out to tackle. Then what do you do at the other
- 10:11guard position? He knock vmahi or somebody like that. I mean, there's
- 10:16a lot of different combinations that you can have here, but they certainly had
- 10:20plenty of practices coming up through fall camp and into the two weeks of game
- 10:26prep that they've gone through so far, and the combination we see right now
- 10:31is the one that they felt was going to be the best. I mean,
- 10:33at what point do you sit there, maybe look at something else?
- 10:35But you're right, you don't want you don't want to be making a lot
- 10:39of herky jerky changes because this is a position where you need five guys to
- 10:43move as one unit, and if you keep putting new people in there,
- 10:46you kind of go back to square one in a lot of regards. And
- 10:48if you go back to the end of last season when we knew Ohio State
- 10:52was going to lose Paris Johnson and Dwan Jones, you'll hear us talking about
- 10:58the possibility of, hey, maybe do kick kick Donovan Jackson out to left
- 11:03tackle and fill in that spot at guard. They didn't do it in the
- 11:07spring. They didn't do it in the fall, at least as far as
- 11:11we saw. So you know, I mean, we're not super geniuses who
- 11:16are out thinking the coaching staff on this stuff. Obviously someone you know,
- 11:20someone in that room has obviously had that thought, and there's a reason they
- 11:24didn't do it. It didn't work for whatever reason they probably tried it or
- 11:28no that no, for some reason, it's not going to work. So
- 11:33I don't think that's something if you didn't if you weren't willing to try it
- 11:35in the spring, or it didn't work in the spring, you're not going
- 11:39to try it in the middle of the season. Not just the time from
- 11:41experimentation is March, not not with Notre Dame in thirteen days, just brushing
- 11:48right past that one. Uh yeah, with the Notre Dame game thirteen days
- 11:52away. If you were going to mess around with it, you do that
- 11:54when the Notre Dame game is two hundred days away and it's March and not
- 11:58you know, two weeks away. So that's I think of all of the
- 12:03concerns with this team, you know, I think quarterback, offensive line,
- 12:07and you know, maybe like that safety spot, that adjuster safety spot.
- 12:11Of those three, I want you to rank those three areas of concern for
- 12:16you right now, because I feel like those numbers have maybe shuffled a little
- 12:20bit for folks over time. Which one is the biggest of those three concerns
- 12:24and then second and then the least of the three concerns to you? Offensive
- 12:28line is by far the biggest concern. Agree, I'd probably say quarterback and
- 12:33then the adjuster safety spot. I mean, I think that if you have
- 12:37the other two working, the adjuster safety spot is not as much of an
- 12:41issue. But if you were to flip adjuster safety spot and quarterback, I
- 12:48mean, I think that I think that quarterback is going to work its way
- 12:50out. But I still think that with it being the position that this player
- 12:54has his hand on the ball for every offensive play outside of running the wildcat,
- 13:00which Ohio State doesn't do a ton of, it has to be where
- 13:03it is. And I just think that the safety is going to be fine.
- 13:05We're looking at an Ohio State defense that has given up ten points so
- 13:09far, and granted, Indiana ran triple option, which was not they're not
- 13:16in their DNA and it and it showed and youngst Sound State scored a touchdown,
- 13:20but ten points over eight quarters of football, and things are going to
- 13:24change a little bit. I think that your tolerance for paying may need to
- 13:28be a little bit higher. For Western Kentucky, they're going to throw the
- 13:30ball all over. But yeah, that's the way I see it. Yeah,
- 13:35Western Kentucky scoring twenty points would not shock me at all. Next week
- 13:39and then Notre Dame. Notre Dame went into Raleigh and beat North Carolina State
- 13:45forty five twenty four, you know, and that's again, that was a
- 13:48team where it was twenty four points after three quarters. It was a twenty
- 13:52four seventeen game. Then Notre Dame pulls win in the fourth quarter. NC
- 13:56State didn't look great in Week one against Yukon. I think NCC it's probably
- 14:00not going to be a great team this year, but that's a goodwin.
- 14:03You know. They put up more points against North Carolina State than Ohio State
- 14:05puts up against Youngstown State. That it's certainly certainly somebody to keep an eye
- 14:11on at the very least. So we'll be keeping an eye on all of
- 14:13that stuff. At pukee huddle dot com. We've got full coverage of the
- 14:16game of a photo gallery up there for you had did what two and a
- 14:22half hours or so of live postgame coverage something like that for the Young Sound
- 14:26State game might do a little more when we get even some bigger games coming
- 14:31up. There's gonna be a whole lot to talk about with Ohio State and
- 14:35the Notre Dame game coming up, in the Western Kentucky game before that,
- 14:39and Big Ten race and all that stuff. All we're getting sort of getting
- 14:43into Big ten season relatively soon, so it would be a great time to
- 14:46join us at pucke huddle dot com. We have a fantastic team of insiders
- 14:50covering recruiting. We'll probably be talking about recruiting on one of these upcoming shows.
- 14:54Ohio State had some interesting visitors in town, commits, a couple of
- 14:58guys committed to other schools, so some a couple of potential potential flip candidates
- 15:03to keep an eye on. We'll be talking about that on one of the
- 15:05upcoming show morning shows. Plus lots of you know him, you love Them,
- 15:09Ross Fulton, the XS and OS stuff we're messing around with, you
- 15:13know, additional video of games and all that kind of stuff. I think
- 15:16we maybe have found a solution there, So we'll have a Ross show or
- 15:20two coming up a little later on the week, and then all sorts of
- 15:24all sorts of coverage of the team and Ryan Day interviews and player interviews and
- 15:26all that stuff this week as well, leading up to that Western Kentucky game
- 15:30on Saturday. So that will do it for today. Thank you guys all
- 15:33for joining us. Have a great day. We'll talk to Ja tomorrow.