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$0 Productivity Hacks To Get Shit Done ft. Alexis Fernandez · Two Broke Chicks

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Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gadigal Land Always was, always
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Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land.
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Speaker 2: Hey chicks, I'm Sal.
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Speaker 3: And I'm and this is two broke chicks to show
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Speaker 3: that shares life lessons because we're broken buns but rich
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Speaker 3: in life. And today we're joined once again by the beautiful, intelligent,
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Speaker 3: fabulous Alex.
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Speaker 2: Hello.
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Speaker 4: I love this intro. Thank you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like that is my official title for correctly
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Speaker 3: you just.
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Speaker 1: Make that your alarm every morning and.
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Speaker 2: I'm like informations from Sal.
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Speaker 1: You know what I love is that sound on TikTok.
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Speaker 1: It's like, good morning, You're stunning, And I'm like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's my love language, just being like yelled at it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like one of the words I like, really swear. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's an air thing, is that I think?
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Speaker 1: So?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, ye my best friends in errors and yeah that's
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Speaker 5: me I.
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Speaker 3: But today we've got Alexa song because we're going to
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Speaker 3: be chatting productivity hacks that cost zero dollars because that's
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Speaker 3: like your bread and butter. It is, so we are
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Speaker 3: so excited. But before we get into it, we love
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Speaker 3: to start our episodes with a life lesson of the week,
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Speaker 3: So as our guest of honor, would you like to
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Speaker 3: kick us off?
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Speaker 5: Life lesson of the week. I'm always learning to be
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Speaker 5: more patient.
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Speaker 4: I'm not actually a patient person at the best of times.
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Speaker 4: I'm just not. But my partner.
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Speaker 5: Fiance, we're just talking about this. He teaches me a
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Speaker 5: lot of patience, which is great. Yeah, but yeah, just
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Speaker 5: patients in general, I'm a very impatient person. But this week,
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Speaker 5: I've just had moments where it's just teaching me that
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Speaker 5: I need to slow down, especially when trying to find
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Speaker 5: a car park.
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Speaker 3: Just yeah, when you're stuck in the heat of the
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Speaker 3: moment like that, do you have like a hack or
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Speaker 3: a tip to bring.
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Speaker 5: You down literally breath work? Because I'm also not now
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Speaker 5: I've definitely gotten better. I've taken a you know, leaf
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Speaker 5: out of my own pay book or whatever you call it.
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Speaker 5: But I would have like internalized road rage.
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Speaker 4: I just get so like, like.
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Speaker 5: I just yeah aggressive and I still This is probably
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Speaker 5: from when I got my license. I think it was
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Speaker 5: almost like about my best friend and I in high
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Speaker 5: school at the time.
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Speaker 4: It was almost like who would be more aggressive? It's
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Speaker 4: like a game, yeah, And I'm like, oh, I.
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Speaker 5: Need to just not be so affected by just people
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Speaker 5: wasting my time.
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Speaker 1: Was literally me this morning exactly literally like screaming here,
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Speaker 1: shaking my head, like what are you doing?
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Speaker 5: I was very late to the podcast this morning, l
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Speaker 5: having like rage blackouts.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how I got from bondy to hear.
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Speaker 1: At one point, I fully Regina George screamed in my car.
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Speaker 2: I've done that kind of embarrassing. I've done that in mind,
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Speaker 2: but I like actually just screamed, Yeah, it felt good.
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Speaker 5: I know you have to have to let it out,
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Speaker 5: but I realized that, you know how, sometimes when you
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Speaker 5: scream with frustration, the same goes for a deep breath.
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Speaker 5: So sometimes like you're so angry you think you need
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Speaker 5: a scream. That's when you know a lot of people
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Speaker 5: like break something or smash something. It's just kind of
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Speaker 5: like I need a release. But the same thing can
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Speaker 5: be done with like a big breath of air or
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Speaker 5: a couple Yeah, kind of like just like you're just
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Speaker 5: talking yourself down off the ledge.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, a lot of those moments this week.
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Speaker 2: I love that.
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Speaker 4: That's a good way to look at it. What's your
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Speaker 4: life lesson?
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Speaker 1: Now? My life lesson is to get an Alexa because
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Speaker 1: might save your life. Last week I was supposed to
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Speaker 1: be driving down to Wagga on Thursday afternoon to go
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Speaker 1: to my cousin's wedding, and my boyfriend was coming home
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Speaker 1: to drive and we're going to leave on the Thursday
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Speaker 1: night anyway, So I was hanging out his shirt for
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Speaker 1: the wedding because I washed it and then I got
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Speaker 1: it dirty.
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Speaker 2: And he does his own washing. Don't think that I
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Speaker 2: do is wa washing for him?
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Speaker 1: But like I was just she was going to be home,
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Speaker 1: and so yeah, I don't do my boyfriend's washing.
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Speaker 4: Don't worry. I would rather get.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, so I got it dirty. So then I
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Speaker 2: had to wash it again.
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Speaker 1: Because I was like And then so I go on
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Speaker 1: the balcony to hang it up and then I go
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Speaker 1: to go back inside and the.
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Speaker 2: Door I shut the door, honey, door won't open. I
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Speaker 2: locked myself out on my balcony. No, I had no food,
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Speaker 2: I had no phone.
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Speaker 1: I had no book, I had nothing because the blinds
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Speaker 1: were down, like one half of the blinds were down
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Speaker 1: that you know, like the weight on the bottom of blinds,
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Speaker 1: like the little roder got stuck behind the door and
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Speaker 1: had locked me out, had locked me out, and.
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Speaker 2: For a good ten minutes. I was like, to you
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Speaker 2: hear this is funny, But then I was like, wait,
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Speaker 2: I'm trapped. I was like, because I'm.
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Speaker 1: Claustrophobic, and you would think that you wouldn't get custrophobic
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Speaker 1: on about it, but it's still like I can't leave
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Speaker 1: here because I'm on the seventh floor.
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Speaker 2: And I was like maybe the trees will catch me.
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Speaker 2: But I was like, oh my god, what the how
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Speaker 2: do I do? Because I don't have a phone.
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Speaker 1: I left it inside because I was just popping out
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Speaker 1: to hang out a shirt, and I was like, literally what.
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Speaker 2: The fuck do I do?
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Speaker 1: So I'm sitting here and I was like laying in
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Speaker 1: the sun, but like I wasn't relaxing. And then I
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Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, the Alexa because there was
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Speaker 1: an Alexa on the window sill of like the window
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Speaker 1: that connects to my balcony, but the window is closed.
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Speaker 2: So then I was like this might not work.
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Speaker 4: And I have screamed been.
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Speaker 1: Like alexa, cool Rob and it works.
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Speaker 4: Oh my does he pick up his phone?
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Speaker 2: No, because he's a fucking.
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Speaker 1: Man, So then I have to cool sel and then
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Speaker 1: sound was like I can't he you all call me back.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, don't wait, wait, don't and then she
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Speaker 1: and then just hangs up. And then I try to
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Speaker 1: call her again, and I call my mom and then
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Speaker 1: I get back on this out and I have to
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Speaker 1: scream through the window.
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Speaker 4: I'm locked on the bell. I'm like what, like, I.
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Speaker 2: Cannot bond die. I can literally hear the people on
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Speaker 2: the balcony above me.
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Speaker 4: Just imagine I should have come down and tried to
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Speaker 4: help you.
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Speaker 1: And then it's like, oh, call the real estate. And
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Speaker 1: then the apartment was a fucking mess, and.
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Speaker 2: I was like it was.
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Speaker 1: And then my poor boyfriend because he just hed opped it.
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Speaker 2: He dropped it wasn't his fault and walked.
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Speaker 4: Like you your head, I couldn't even emergen.
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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah. And then anyway, so.
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Speaker 4: Let's save your life.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it could though, if you like fell and hurt
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Speaker 3: yourself and you won't in reach of your phone, but
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Speaker 3: you could be like Alexa, call.
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Speaker 2: Zero zero zero, Like I don't even know that Alexa
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Speaker 2: could call. So that was another lie.
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Speaker 5: Alexa thinks my Alexa thinks that her name is Alexis
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Speaker 5: calls with people and they'll be like, thank you Alexis,
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Speaker 5: and my Alex will be like, no problem.
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Speaker 4: For me, thank you.
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Speaker 2: That was a good impression of Alexa. But that was
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Speaker 2: very good.
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Speaker 4: I feel like I could be a voice oft.
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Speaker 2: I think so too the other day.
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Speaker 1: I'd love to do that, but no one would want
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Speaker 1: to hear that. Imagine me like reading some smart book
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Speaker 1: to you being like he's in gorged.
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Speaker 2: Length, came out of his cats, gorged length.
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Speaker 4: You don't know, You don't know.
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Speaker 3: Everybody has their own kinks, So yeah, exactly, it would
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Speaker 3: be so niche out there.
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Speaker 2: I would appreciate.
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Speaker 1: All right, smart books, new career move what's yourself?
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Speaker 4: Okay?
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Speaker 3: My life lesson is actually something that I picked up
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Speaker 3: from our friend Jem, the host of the Psychology of
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Speaker 3: Your twenty's podcast, Friend of the Show, Friend of the Show,
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Speaker 3: and she we were in the office together the other day
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Speaker 3: and she was like, oh, I've got to send my
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Speaker 3: message of the day and I was like, what are
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Speaker 3: you talking about?
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Speaker 2: And she was like, what are you doing?
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Speaker 3: What are you And she was like, oh, my partner
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Speaker 3: and I've been using this app called a Garpe and
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Speaker 3: it's like a conversation prompt app and there's all different
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Speaker 3: categories that you can have, so you can do it
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Speaker 3: for like romantic friends.
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Speaker 2: And then within that there's like niches.
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Speaker 3: So it will be like deep conversations like sexual, naughty time, whatever,
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Speaker 3: and you know, or it will be like daily reminders,
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Speaker 3: daily prompts, randomized like there's all different categories.
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Speaker 4: And I was like, I want to try that.
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Speaker 2: That sounds really cool.
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Speaker 5: Is it a gar pay or a gate a gar
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Speaker 5: pay and then use you use that prompt to then
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Speaker 5: message somebody.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you So then you add your friends on
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Speaker 3: it or your partner or whoever, and then you choose
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Speaker 3: a prompt for the day and it sends them a
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Speaker 3: notification being like this is your question of the day.
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Speaker 3: They have to respond and you can't read their response
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Speaker 3: until you also respond to them, so.
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Speaker 4: Like you'll never be left.
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Speaker 3: You both have to Yeah, you both have to engage
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Speaker 3: in the conversation to be able to open the other
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Speaker 3: person exactly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, I like that that's suck at replying
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Speaker 1: to text.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's more so for like meaningful conversations,
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Speaker 3: but it's really like it's such a cute idea and
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Speaker 3: like I feel like that would be so nice for
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Speaker 3: like long distance friends, especially long distance partners. And yeah,
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Speaker 3: my boyfriend and I, who have been together for over
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Speaker 3: fifteen years, I feel like we've talked about every single
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Speaker 3: thing you possibly can talk.
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Speaker 1: About, and we were like, oh, this is done, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: wrap this up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, run you told me that story before.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: I did that with people I met like a week.
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Speaker 1: They'll be like I can see you on someone's face
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I've told you this, yeah, and they're.
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Speaker 2: Like yeah, but it's like kind of my fie, tell
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Speaker 2: it again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the chick's like, you already told us aboutcony story about.
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Speaker 4: But yeah.
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Speaker 3: So even though we've been together for so long and
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Speaker 3: had like every possible conversation imaginable, I thought, within like
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Speaker 3: a couple of days of using it, you know, prompted
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Speaker 3: a few different questions and things that.
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Speaker 2: We've never like asked each other.
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Speaker 4: And it was so sweet. Yeah it's free.
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Speaker 3: It's free as well, say well, yeah, I'll send you
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Speaker 3: the invite so you can.
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Speaker 2: Keep, so you can get a sign both of you.
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Speaker 5: I'll be like affirmations, aggressive affirmation exactly.
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Speaker 2: Okay, shall we get in the episode.
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Speaker 3: Let's do the damn thing. Okay, So alexis today we're
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Speaker 3: talking all about productivity and of course, a big blocker
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Speaker 3: to that is procrastination. So what's the science behind procrastinating?
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Speaker 5: So the reason we procrastinate in general is, I mean,
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Speaker 5: it's the initial reason is very obvious. It is to
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Speaker 5: avoid discomfort. Some people say, oh, it's like a trauma response.
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Speaker 5: That's bullshit. I just I just feel like the word
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Speaker 5: trauma is very heavily overused. Trauma is a thing, for sure,
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Speaker 5: and it might be a response in some people. But
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Speaker 5: people who have experienced no trauma procrastinate.
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Speaker 1: People like cow milk in their oat coffee and I've
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Speaker 1: got trauma.
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Speaker 5: Like I'm talking about traumas in where you're joking around like,
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Speaker 5: oh my god, trauma just like my hair.
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Speaker 4: But in general, like, it's not.
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Speaker 2: Actually a traumatic experience.
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Speaker 5: It's not the cause of procrastination. It can contribute to
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Speaker 5: somebody's procrastination possibly, but that's not the Like, if you
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Speaker 5: procrastinate doesn't mean that you are a victim of trauma.
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Speaker 5: But it does come from this this need to avoid discomfort.
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Speaker 5: And it kind of makes sense because the brain just
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Speaker 5: does what we teach it to do.
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Speaker 4: So if we teach it that.
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Speaker 5: Uncomfortable things are purely just that uncomfortable and we're not
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Speaker 5: looking at the bigger picture, we're not looking at and
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Speaker 5: stealing habits and all that stuff. Then we're always going
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Speaker 5: to be looking at it saying I could do that,
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Speaker 5: But that equals me getting up, me doing something that
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Speaker 5: I'm not good at doing, me being judged, me putting
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Speaker 5: myself out there, all these things that you would put
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Speaker 5: off doing when I could be doing this. So it
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Speaker 5: could be a scary thing, or it could just equal discomfort,
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Speaker 5: and we want to put it until it's just absolutely
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Speaker 5: inevitable and we absolutely have to do it because when
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Speaker 5: you've got no option, you've got no option, you do it.
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Speaker 5: You know, it's not even a choice anymore. But when
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Speaker 5: you've got the choice, we will choose to do something
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Speaker 5: that will make us feel comfortable. You know, the brain's
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Speaker 5: always seeking comfort, and so when you look at procrastination,
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Speaker 5: you've got to find a way to still make your
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Speaker 5: brain realize that doing it now actually will equal comfort.
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Speaker 5: Because if you just think, right now, this is discomfort,
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Speaker 5: this is uncomfortable, I'm not going to do it. So
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Speaker 5: that's when you look at like commitment and things like that,
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Speaker 5: You've always got to look at it is everything is
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Speaker 5: a choice.
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Speaker 4: Until it's no longer a choice.
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Speaker 5: And when you've got the choice to do something, that's
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Speaker 5: when that's when your character really shines through.
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Speaker 4: Because when you have.
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Speaker 5: To pull an all nighter to start it for something
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Speaker 5: because your exams the next day, it's not really a choice,
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Speaker 5: you really like, the only alternative to that was.
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Speaker 4: You know, failing. Yes, you know, it isn't a choice.
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Speaker 5: So I never look at oh my god, but I
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Speaker 5: managed to get this done in the last minute. It's well,
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Speaker 5: that doesn't really say too much about character because you
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Speaker 5: weren't in a position where you had no choice. Where
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Speaker 5: it's really becomes difficult is when you have to learn
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Speaker 5: to do the uncomfortable things to equal comfort in the future.
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Speaker 1: It's like, I like that. It's like discomfort now but
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Speaker 1: comfort later. It's kind of like it's opening and closing shift.
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Speaker 1: You might not want to clean up now, but you're
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Speaker 1: going to feel like so much better in the morning.
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Speaker 5: For so many things like if for the most part,
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Speaker 5: if something's easy in the short run, as far as
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Speaker 5: the decision that you have to make, it's probably going
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Speaker 5: to equal.
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Speaker 4: Hardship in the long run.
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Speaker 5: And if something is more difficult in the short run,
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Speaker 5: it's going to equal making your life easier in the
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Speaker 5: long run. So that's kind of how I always look
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Speaker 5: at it when I'm approaching things, even like unloading the
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Speaker 5: what are you doing?
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Speaker 4: Ever?
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Speaker 1: I know sometimes I hear like my partner doing it,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I didn't hear that.
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Speaker 4: Parents to carry you in?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've seen that thing with people putting like kids
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Speaker 1: arms up being like stays up there asleep, and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I would have fallen for that ship.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, totally.
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Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'm just a sleeping little baby to bed.
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Speaker 1: So we were chatting yesterday about this in Alexis office,
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Speaker 1: our special professional work.
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Speaker 4: From home day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really trying to sell the audio Bookay, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to Amazon Audible that look, guys, got range. So
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Speaker 1: we're chatting about your personal rule on how you won't
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Speaker 1: touch your phone in the morning for at least an hour.
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Speaker 2: Can you tell us more.
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Speaker 1: About how your phone affects your ability to get ship done?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so, and specifically with phone, like my phone is
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Speaker 5: my alarm. The main thing that I absolutely will not
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Speaker 5: touch is social media any social media app, emails and
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Speaker 5: ideally unnecessary text messages and what I mean by that is,
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Speaker 5: if I'm just waking up and going to the gym
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Speaker 5: and I'm not going to.
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Speaker 4: Be texting anyone hard and fast rule.
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Speaker 5: But if I'm meeting my friend for a walk in
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Speaker 5: thirty minutes, of course I'm texting my friend. So it's
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Speaker 5: okay for very relevant to what you're doing things, but
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Speaker 5: absolutely like hard and fast rule, no social media for
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Speaker 5: the first hour on the phone. And the reason for
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Speaker 5: that is when you wake up in the morning, you've
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Speaker 5: got a really good, the highest natural spike of cortisol,
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Speaker 5: which you're supposed to have, so it's not all bad.
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Speaker 5: It's only bad when it's in excess and when it's
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Speaker 5: late at night. But you get this nice kind of
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Speaker 5: spike of cortisol you get through getting outside, being in
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Speaker 5: the sun, starting to move your body. You're getting this
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Speaker 5: nice release of dopamine in like a slower form release,
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Speaker 5: and it's a really good way to set you up
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Speaker 5: to feel better. It sets your mood. It's exactly how
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Speaker 5: the brain is supposed to work. The problem is when
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Speaker 5: we seek these like instant gratification or like hits of
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Speaker 5: dopamine seeking behaviors. When we do these things, then you're
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Speaker 5: already starting your day with dopamine dropping below your baseline level.
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Speaker 5: So we all have a baseline. If you do things
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Speaker 5: that will increase dopamine quote unquote naturally or you know, slowly,
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Speaker 5: it's normally in things you have to earn. So exercise,
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Speaker 5: connection with somebody, achieving a small task, doing things like that,
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Speaker 5: that's going to increase your levels of dopein ice sparts
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Speaker 5: on as all of that. Doing something like any addictive behavior,
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Speaker 5: whether it be a chemical addiction caffeine is a difference,
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Speaker 5: so I'll talk about that later, but whether it be
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Speaker 5: like a drug for some people, or gambling or in
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Speaker 5: this case, social media, you're getting a spike of dopamine
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Speaker 5: and then because it was such a quick hit and
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Speaker 5: you didn't have to work for it, it then will
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Speaker 5: plummet below what your normal baseline is. And you want
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Speaker 5: to look at dopamine as your willingness to do something.
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Speaker 5: So if dopamine is your willingness to do something, and
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Speaker 5: you've just gone and went bang up and.
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Speaker 2: Bang down, then getting out of bed you're.
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Speaker 4: Even less willing to get out of bed than if
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Speaker 4: you didn't check your phone.
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Speaker 5: You're less willing to Now decisions become a little bit
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Speaker 5: more foggy. It's not as clear to make a decision.
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Speaker 5: You're in the wardrobe, what am I going to wear?
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Speaker 4: All these?
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Speaker 5: And so then what do we do? I feel flat?
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Speaker 5: I want to feel good. Bang, I reach my phone again.
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Speaker 5: And then that's why sometimes you'll be sitting there and
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Speaker 5: you've just put your phone away and you don't even read,
17:10
Speaker 5: and before you know it, it's in your hands. You're
17:12
Speaker 5: looking yeah, memory, And I still do that. It's not
17:16
Speaker 5: that it doesn't happen to me now. It happens to
17:18
Speaker 5: me all the time.
17:18
Speaker 4: And because of that, it's.
17:20
Speaker 5: Kind of like, I've got to work with what I know,
17:22
Speaker 5: and I know that I'm going to do that.
17:24
Speaker 4: So I've got to maximize.
17:26
Speaker 5: My mornings where my decision making quota is that it's highest,
17:29
Speaker 5: where you know, my willingness to do something is relatively high.
17:34
Speaker 5: And so the beauty of that, for myself and for
17:37
Speaker 5: a lot of people as well, is when you do
17:39
Speaker 5: limit your social media time in the mornings, then when
17:42
Speaker 5: you do go on social media, your day's already been
17:45
Speaker 5: your morning's already been more meaningful, it's had more purposely've
17:47
Speaker 5: done things that really contribute to you feeling good that
17:50
Speaker 5: by the time you do get on.
17:52
Speaker 4: Your phone, you're a bit more not for everyone.
17:55
Speaker 5: But for me, you're a bit more purposeful with how
17:57
Speaker 5: you use your social media. You go on it, you
17:59
Speaker 5: do it, you need to do, but.
18:00
Speaker 4: You're not Oh my god, I feel so flat. I
18:03
Speaker 4: need this. You already feel a bit better.
18:06
Speaker 1: So that makes so much sense because the amount of
18:08
Speaker 1: times that I've woken up being like, yeah, I'll go
18:09
Speaker 1: to the gym and then I check my phone and
18:11
Speaker 1: then I blink and it's like forty five minutes later,
18:13
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't really feel like it now.
18:16
Speaker 4: That it just sucked into a vacuum.
18:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you feel, Like, how do you go
18:21
Speaker 1: about that? Because I feel like that would be quite
18:24
Speaker 1: tricky to not go fall into that muscle memory. Do
18:27
Speaker 1: you put your phone in an another room or have
18:29
Speaker 1: you built like up the habit to not reach for.
18:33
Speaker 2: It, Yeah, especially if it's your alarm.
18:34
Speaker 4: Yeah.
18:35
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I don't I keep my phone because it's
18:38
Speaker 5: my alarm.
18:38
Speaker 4: I have it on my bedside table.
18:41
Speaker 5: I think the really a really good way that I've
18:44
Speaker 5: kind of built that is by instilling like a really
18:46
Speaker 5: basic but very repetitive morning routine, so that way, and
18:51
Speaker 5: it's like everything has to hit a time that you're
18:54
Speaker 5: doing it. And it's obviously hard at the start when
18:56
Speaker 5: you first start doing a routine, but.
18:59
Speaker 4: You can always.
19:00
Speaker 5: So if you're someone that wakes up at eight and
19:01
Speaker 5: you want to wake up at six, the thought of
19:03
Speaker 5: wake up at six is going to be really.
19:05
Speaker 4: Intense for a lot of people, or five o'clock or whatever.
19:07
Speaker 4: So you shift. You're just shifting the needle, shifting.
19:09
Speaker 5: The needle until you get to that sweet spot. But
19:11
Speaker 5: for me, the reason I'm not checking my phone is
19:13
Speaker 5: most mornings I have.
19:14
Speaker 4: To get up or don't have to.
19:15
Speaker 5: I get up, you know, I drink my water, I
19:18
Speaker 5: have a meditation, and then I'm at the gym.
19:20
Speaker 4: So really, if I was to.
19:21
Speaker 5: Break that up and waste time doing something else, then
19:23
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have been able to go and do that
19:25
Speaker 5: thing that I wanted to do. Another good thing about
19:27
Speaker 5: it is if I was to say I'm not going
19:30
Speaker 5: on my phone for thirty days, it's really unrealistic, and
19:33
Speaker 5: then I just keep putting it off. I'll start tomorrow,
19:35
Speaker 5: start tomorrow' stunt for it. But because I'm like, I'm
19:37
Speaker 5: not restricting myself. I can have my phone, just not
19:39
Speaker 5: right now.
19:40
Speaker 4: I can have a bit later.
19:41
Speaker 5: It's delayed gratification. So it doesn't make this like forbidden,
19:44
Speaker 5: untouchable thing. It's like, not only do I have to
19:46
Speaker 5: manage my time, because people talk about time management all
19:49
Speaker 5: the time, but we don't talk about attention management. And
19:52
Speaker 5: attention management is way more important than time management, because
19:56
Speaker 5: I could if I manage my attention properly, I could
19:58
Speaker 5: do just as much in half the time, you know,
20:01
Speaker 5: so we'll you know, when I do move my phone
20:04
Speaker 5: away from from where I'm at, is when I do
20:07
Speaker 5: time blocking, when I'm writing a book, when I'm really
20:09
Speaker 5: like when I need high focus, I will set a
20:13
Speaker 5: forty minute time up on my phone, but then I'll
20:15
Speaker 5: move my phone away, which stops me from that subconscious reach.
20:19
Speaker 1: Check.
20:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the.
20:20
Speaker 5: Moment I go to reach for it, it's like your
20:23
Speaker 5: arm almost and then you're aware, and then you settle
20:25
Speaker 5: back and you're like no. And then the more you
20:27
Speaker 5: do that, just this noting of your behavior, the less
20:30
Speaker 5: you do it, Like when people have a habit they
20:32
Speaker 5: flick there and on their rest, it's just this you've
20:35
Speaker 5: you've brought your conscious mind into a subconscious behavior and
20:37
Speaker 5: it helps kind of stop it.
20:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I would feel good.
20:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that I would get addicted to that.
20:48
Speaker 4: I wouldn't. I wouldn't be like, then you need another
20:51
Speaker 4: thing to stop that.
20:52
Speaker 1: I put it on my toe'sous cycle.
20:57
Speaker 4: Yeah.
20:58
Speaker 3: What are some other affordable is that you can change
21:01
Speaker 3: up your routine to make it more productive.
21:03
Speaker 4: Okay, so we're actually talking about this just yesterday, but I.
21:06
Speaker 5: Was saying that what's really exciting for probably everyone listening
21:13
Speaker 5: is that where you are right now, you could make
21:16
Speaker 5: your life already fifty one hundred percent for some people
21:20
Speaker 5: five hundred percent better, just with the tools that you
21:22
Speaker 5: have at your disposal already. So sometimes we'll look at
21:26
Speaker 5: our life and we think, when I get this, then
21:28
Speaker 5: I can have this, and when I get this, then
21:29
Speaker 5: I'll feel this way and when when when? And if
21:32
Speaker 5: this happened and if I was making more money, which
21:34
Speaker 5: is true, resources definitely help you go further, that's all true,
21:38
Speaker 5: but we're taking for granted or ignoring the amount of
21:42
Speaker 5: resource that we have already at our disposal, and that
21:45
Speaker 5: is things like number one thing that will actually change
21:48
Speaker 5: your life is so boring, but it's a habit, you know,
21:51
Speaker 5: a ritual in your day, and it doesn't have to
21:54
Speaker 5: be in the morning, although morning is the most elite
21:57
Speaker 5: time time go set your day up, but you can
22:00
Speaker 5: also have mini habits throughout the day. You know, a
22:03
Speaker 5: mini habit could be, Okay, if I'm going to brush
22:05
Speaker 5: my teeth, then there's a series of events that happens
22:08
Speaker 5: after I brush my teeth, and it's in the same
22:10
Speaker 5: order every night. So then instead of like brushing my teeth,
22:12
Speaker 5: fucking around looking at what am I and then it's
22:15
Speaker 5: like thirty minutes before it's like, no, I brush my teeth.
22:18
Speaker 4: It's like a set routine.
22:20
Speaker 5: Or if when I take my clothes off, I fold
22:23
Speaker 5: it and put it away instead of dumping it on
22:25
Speaker 5: the floor, which is something that surprisingly I've only started
22:28
Speaker 5: to instill in.
22:28
Speaker 2: The last yet.
22:32
Speaker 4: It's crazy how much time it saves, you know, Oh
22:34
Speaker 4: my gosh.
22:35
Speaker 5: Yeah, instead of having to redo your wardrobe every week,
22:38
Speaker 5: you're doing it once every three months now.
22:40
Speaker 1: All that like you know, washing basket that's been in
22:42
Speaker 1: the corner for two weeks, being like.
22:44
Speaker 5: You're a fire exactly exactly I'm talking to you. Yeah,
22:50
Speaker 5: So I would definitely say two things I would say
22:52
Speaker 5: is number one. The best way to start a habit
22:54
Speaker 5: is just find two behaviors that you can tack onto
22:56
Speaker 5: each other and do it. Every time you do it,
22:58
Speaker 5: do both of them together the start of a habit,
23:01
Speaker 5: because then you could or a routine if you like,
23:03
Speaker 5: because then you can start making it longer, long and longer.
23:05
Speaker 5: Whatever works for you. And everybody is different, some people have.
23:09
Speaker 5: So I interviewed this guy. He's in the States. He's
23:11
Speaker 5: a he's a therapist in the States, and his routine
23:15
Speaker 5: was so vastly different from mine. But it just he said,
23:18
Speaker 5: he rolls out of bed. So I'm like, bed, you know,
23:21
Speaker 5: wash my face, meditate Jim.
23:23
Speaker 4: He rolls out of bed. He says, he doesn't even
23:25
Speaker 4: wash his face.
23:26
Speaker 5: He just gets himself to a cafe across the road,
23:28
Speaker 5: right and then from there he does two hours of writing.
23:31
Speaker 4: Without He hasn't even watched this Fast Night. He's just
23:33
Speaker 4: a coffee Wow. After does that?
23:42
Speaker 5: You haven't even put water on your I just find
23:44
Speaker 5: that and I loved it, Like I do that. Then
23:47
Speaker 5: I come home and then he's got this compollet. But
23:49
Speaker 5: it works for him. So when you hear about routines.
23:51
Speaker 4: You don't have to imitate someone else's routine. Do what
23:55
Speaker 4: works for you. Work with what you've got, work with
23:58
Speaker 4: the baby, use it.
23:59
Speaker 5: Yeah, because some times we think, oh, but I'm you know,
24:01
Speaker 5: I could never do that.
24:02
Speaker 4: I could never do that.
24:02
Speaker 5: Maybe not, but you could do more than what you're
24:06
Speaker 5: doing now already with what you've got. You've just got
24:08
Speaker 5: to like package it differently. When I started packaging my
24:11
Speaker 5: attention and my time and my mornings differently, it transformed
24:15
Speaker 5: how focused I was, how I could stay on task
24:18
Speaker 5: for longer, how I could just get more things done.
24:22
Speaker 5: Because there'd be many days, even to this day, there
24:24
Speaker 5: are days where I'm no creativity, I've got no focus,
24:27
Speaker 5: I've got nothing. But because you're hitting that target most days,
24:32
Speaker 5: then when you have a day like that, you don't
24:34
Speaker 5: feel bad.
24:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, so try and.
24:35
Speaker 5: Hit Like I've got a really laxed hit rate, I'll
24:38
Speaker 5: try and do a seventy percent hit rate. If I'm
24:40
Speaker 5: doing what I want to be doing seventy percent of
24:42
Speaker 5: the time, then the days where I'm just not showing up,
24:44
Speaker 5: I've got nothing to give. I don't even feel guilty.
24:46
Speaker 4: Because I'm like, that is okay, this falls together. I've
24:51
Speaker 4: factored in failure.
24:52
Speaker 1: I like that because as well, I think we think
24:54
Speaker 1: we have to be protective all the time. All that
24:57
Speaker 1: you feel guilty when you're resting, you're not resting, if
25:00
Speaker 1: you're feeling good, you have.
25:02
Speaker 4: To factor in failure.
25:03
Speaker 5: Look at you look at so much in our life,
25:06
Speaker 5: so much in our reality already has failure factored into it.
25:09
Speaker 4: We have twelve demerit points.
25:11
Speaker 5: When you go for your license, you can have x
25:14
Speaker 5: amount to fail to get a degree. You don't have
25:16
Speaker 5: to get one hundred percent. Failure is factored into everything,
25:19
Speaker 5: but we don't do it for us.
25:20
Speaker 1: Give your life exactly, literally exactly and.
25:23
Speaker 4: Fact and just it's part of it.
25:25
Speaker 5: So when I look at it, and you could look
25:26
Speaker 5: at it from a food perspective, from a how much
25:28
Speaker 5: do I have to give today perspective, if you have
25:31
Speaker 5: like I'm going to give it this much, but I
25:33
Speaker 5: have already factored this, then there's no guilt. And the
25:37
Speaker 5: thing is when you remove this guilt towards what you've
25:40
Speaker 5: done in your productivity, you've got to be more productive
25:42
Speaker 5: in the future.
25:43
Speaker 4: Because one of the things that really.
25:44
Speaker 5: Holds us back is this how we speak to ourselves
25:47
Speaker 5: this language to ourselves, how we respect ourselves.
25:49
Speaker 4: So if you're saying I'm a.
25:50
Speaker 5: Fucking idiot, I'm a failure, I'm going to start from zero.
25:52
Speaker 5: I got to start again from the beginning because I didn't.
25:55
Speaker 5: Then when you approach a task, you feel a little
25:57
Speaker 5: bit like your self esteem towards our things a little
25:59
Speaker 5: bit low. We just don't feel is good within yourself.
26:02
Speaker 5: But if you feel like I'm on my side, we're
26:04
Speaker 5: a team, me and this. You know, whoever money physical,
26:09
Speaker 5: it's a team and we work with each other.
26:13
Speaker 4: I love that, you know what.
26:14
Speaker 1: It's so true because I would suck at taking supplements,
26:17
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't never take my eye and.
26:19
Speaker 2: Get a blood test and how are you standing up?
26:21
Speaker 1: And then I just put them next to my coffee
26:27
Speaker 1: machine because I have a coffee every morning because I
26:30
Speaker 1: need that sweet bean juice to make me go.
26:33
Speaker 2: And because it's there when I'm waiting for.
26:35
Speaker 1: The coffee machine to do his thing, I just take
26:37
Speaker 1: the ittoms because they're yeaht literally, And then I went
26:40
Speaker 1: I had blood test recently.
26:41
Speaker 2: She's like, and I was being like, yeah, how low
26:43
Speaker 2: it's my eye And like am I standing up? She's like, no,
26:47
Speaker 2: your own's good.
26:48
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, you're like, but it is
26:51
Speaker 1: just tagged.
26:52
Speaker 5: You've just tagged onto this to you know. And if
26:55
Speaker 5: you're like, well, I don't know what I can take on,
26:57
Speaker 5: think about it. Behavior that's absolutely inevitable that you're going
27:00
Speaker 5: to do.
27:00
Speaker 4: Yours is coffee. For a lot of people, it would
27:02
Speaker 4: be coffee.
27:03
Speaker 5: One could be okay, where do I put my keys
27:06
Speaker 5: for my can't then what I have there that I
27:08
Speaker 5: have to do before? Like, it could be anything but
27:11
Speaker 5: the shower, Yes, yes, exactly. And then the more you
27:15
Speaker 5: start doing these things, the more you start remembering things,
27:18
Speaker 5: more you start being more in tune. You know, you
27:20
Speaker 5: you have to look at your brain as not working
27:23
Speaker 5: against you.
27:24
Speaker 4: Just look at your brain. It's doing what I've trained
27:26
Speaker 4: it to do.
27:27
Speaker 2: We work against brain when you pick up that little brick,
27:34
Speaker 2: put it away, and.
27:35
Speaker 5: You're like, honestly, and if you're always like, I have
27:40
Speaker 5: to do this thing, I have to do the thing
27:41
Speaker 5: your brain's learning, okay, avoid.
27:45
Speaker 2: And then when you go and.
27:46
Speaker 5: Do it, your brains avoid it so many times. Why
27:48
Speaker 5: a we're doing it now, let's start avoid again. Brain
27:51
Speaker 5: loves patterns, loves repetitive.
27:53
Speaker 2: Everything good or bad, good or bad.
27:56
Speaker 4: It's just going to do what you taught it to do.
27:57
Speaker 4: That's all true. So it's my fault.
28:03
Speaker 5: You are that.
28:03
Speaker 2: I've never fault in my life.
28:06
Speaker 4: Didn't anyone tell you? I thought we briefed you before.
28:09
Speaker 4: I'm the victim here.
28:11
Speaker 1: But the other thing that I think was interesting, again
28:13
Speaker 1: that we were talking about yesterday because we're best friends
28:14
Speaker 1: and we hang out all the time, is how does
28:19
Speaker 1: money equal motivation? Do you need to spend money in
28:22
Speaker 1: order to motivate yourself? Yes?
28:24
Speaker 4: So okay.
28:25
Speaker 5: Really interesting about motivation and money or gains or losses,
28:30
Speaker 5: if you want to look at it that way, is
28:32
Speaker 5: that we are a lot more motivated to not lose something.
28:36
Speaker 5: So the thought of a loss, like retaining something, we're
28:41
Speaker 5: motivated way more towards that than the prospect of gaining something. So,
28:45
Speaker 5: for example, if I said to you, if you do
28:50
Speaker 5: this thing for you know, a week straight, I'll give
28:53
Speaker 5: you a hundred bucks, you would think that would motivate you,
28:55
Speaker 5: unless we're talking like obscene amounts of money, like a
28:58
Speaker 5: million dollars, of course you're going to do it, but
29:00
Speaker 5: in general, you know, one hundred bucks.
29:02
Speaker 4: But then if we did.
29:03
Speaker 5: The equivalent of give me, you pay me one hundred dollars,
29:07
Speaker 5: and if you get that thing done, I'll return the hundred.
29:09
Speaker 4: Dollars to you.
29:10
Speaker 5: You're more likely to do it because you're like, I
29:12
Speaker 5: don't want to lose the one hundred that i've This
29:14
Speaker 5: is my.
29:14
Speaker 4: Money and now you're holding it and if I don't
29:17
Speaker 4: follow through.
29:17
Speaker 5: It's kind of like with fitness classes we were talking about.
29:21
Speaker 5: If you pay a membership for unlimited whatever with no
29:25
Speaker 5: penalties for a year, people say, oh, but it's going
29:28
Speaker 5: to motivate me. Sometimes it motivates people, but a lot
29:31
Speaker 5: of the time people are like, oh my god, I've
29:32
Speaker 5: been paying this gym membership, for example, a gym membership,
29:34
Speaker 5: have been paying the same thing week in, week out,
29:36
Speaker 5: and that hasn't motivated me.
29:37
Speaker 4: But the difference is if.
29:38
Speaker 5: You were to pay this membership right and you'd booked
29:41
Speaker 5: into a class, and then if you don't go to
29:42
Speaker 5: the class that you've already booked into, you get a
29:45
Speaker 5: twenty dollars penalty, then people are more likely to stick
29:49
Speaker 5: that up because if it's like if I pay thirty
29:51
Speaker 5: dollars for the gym for unlimited and whether I go,
29:54
Speaker 5: whether I don't go, it's still thirty dollars.
29:56
Speaker 2: It doesn't really feel like a lost to me.
29:57
Speaker 5: I've made that commitment regardless of whether I go. But
30:00
Speaker 5: if on top of that it's another twenty bucks.
30:02
Speaker 4: For not rocking up.
30:03
Speaker 5: I'm going to this class, you know. And we're always
30:07
Speaker 5: more motivated towards loss of version. We hate to lose,
30:12
Speaker 5: and so it's true. Yeah, and so it's good to
30:16
Speaker 5: use that to your advantage because what you could do,
30:18
Speaker 5: especially if it's financial, you could say to your friend
30:21
Speaker 5: or whatever, you've got to really like stick it out.
30:23
Speaker 5: You can't actually need that money, give it back to me,
30:28
Speaker 5: Give your money to your friend or whatever, and say,
30:32
Speaker 5: because instead of saying, if I don't follow through, I'll
30:34
Speaker 5: pay you this, your friends at gotta hold a gun
30:35
Speaker 5: to your head and say they're not down.
30:40
Speaker 4: So now I'm going to break your knee.
30:45
Speaker 1: Like I don't what to do, but I mean, while
30:49
Speaker 1: you've got to smile like it.
30:51
Speaker 4: Didn't take you vitamin didn't absolutely violent.
30:58
Speaker 5: But you could say, if if I don't follow through
31:01
Speaker 5: with this, I want you to give that money to
31:04
Speaker 5: then some cause that you hate. You know, you can
31:10
Speaker 5: get me to do your GIF the worst thing. You
31:14
Speaker 5: would donate money to a political campaign Trump.
31:19
Speaker 4: The worst and say to your friend, hold hold those funds.
31:22
Speaker 4: If I don't follow through, donate it to that and
31:25
Speaker 4: then you contribute it to that thing. It's great.
31:28
Speaker 2: If I was that friend, I wouldn't donate it. I
31:30
Speaker 2: would just keep it. Yeah I did.
31:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, I donated it because one I don't want like
31:35
Speaker 1: organization to get it into I'm better than Donald Trump,
31:40
Speaker 1: I tell them I did, But I just keep.
31:41
Speaker 4: It making proper.
31:45
Speaker 2: No one's going to know. Don't give me money. Just
31:48
Speaker 2: make up like a fake invoice on camber or something.
31:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did it.
31:51
Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson just got fifty Yeah, exactly.
31:56
Speaker 2: Market Pauline's Glee markets this yeah shit stall.
32:06
Speaker 3: So how can you actually make yourself do things that
32:11
Speaker 3: you want to do when you don't want to do
32:14
Speaker 3: it at the same time. So, for example, you want
32:16
Speaker 3: to get up early to go to the gym, but
32:19
Speaker 3: you know that when the alarm goes off in the morning,
32:22
Speaker 3: you just lose it. You just it and like it's
32:24
Speaker 3: like you're a different person when you go to bed
32:26
Speaker 3: verse when.
32:26
Speaker 1: You're like I'm going to run a marathon tomorrow morning,
32:29
Speaker 1: and then the morning comes and you're like, oh, my
32:31
Speaker 1: legs are broken exactly. Yeah.
32:33
Speaker 5: So there's two things. The first one is you always
32:37
Speaker 5: have to look at discomfort is inevitable.
32:40
Speaker 4: You just choose your discomfort.
32:42
Speaker 5: Okay, am I going to have the discomfort of getting
32:45
Speaker 5: up now and going to the gym? Or am I
32:47
Speaker 5: going to have the probably worst discomfort off in a
32:51
Speaker 5: week's time being like I could have done it, but
32:53
Speaker 5: I didn't. Yeah, and I'm annoyed it myself. So there's
32:55
Speaker 5: always a discomfort. Or I'm so I'm not recovering as
32:58
Speaker 5: fast I had a trip, but had I been like
33:01
Speaker 5: exercising regularly, it probably would have healed strong like faster
33:04
Speaker 5: and I would have recovered better, would have been healthier.
33:06
Speaker 4: There's always a discomfort. There's the discomfort of not having
33:08
Speaker 4: the life you want, and there's the discomfort of action.
33:11
Speaker 5: Now you choose, it's up to you. No no judgment,
33:15
Speaker 5: no shame, but it's a choice. You're like, which discomfort
33:17
Speaker 5: in my choosing? That's number one. And the second one
33:20
Speaker 5: is stop thinking that your future self is this amazing,
33:26
Speaker 5: motivated version of you that's got something that you don't
33:28
Speaker 5: have right now.
33:29
Speaker 4: Whoever you are right right now is who the you
33:33
Speaker 4: off tomorrow will be.
33:35
Speaker 5: So when you set yourself a goal, when you set
33:37
Speaker 5: yourself a task, set it when it's the hardest to
33:40
Speaker 5: set it.
33:41
Speaker 4: So I always use my sorry mum as an example.
33:44
Speaker 5: My mom and my aunt is because they always are like,
33:46
Speaker 5: we need to eat less sugar because they love cake,
33:49
Speaker 5: love coffee.
33:54
Speaker 4: I also love cake, but.
33:55
Speaker 5: They would They will go to a cafe, buy this
33:58
Speaker 5: hectic piece of cake, share a haha, eat it, eat it,
34:01
Speaker 5: eat it.
34:01
Speaker 4: Be full, and they're like, right after they've eaten the cake,
34:05
Speaker 4: right one week, no sugar, no sugar.
34:09
Speaker 5: Like, you've just made that promise to yourself at the
34:11
Speaker 5: easiest possible time. So when you wake up hungover dying,
34:14
Speaker 5: you're like, that's it, I'm not drinking for two weeks.
34:16
Speaker 5: Of course, try to say that on a Friday night
34:18
Speaker 5: with a cocktail right in front of you. I'm not
34:19
Speaker 5: drinking for two weeks. No, your voice less and.
34:26
Speaker 4: Fine.
34:27
Speaker 5: But the beauty of that is then you you learn
34:29
Speaker 5: how to structure a realistic goal for yourself. Because I'm
34:33
Speaker 5: all for like aiming super high, but you've also got
34:37
Speaker 5: it's got to be align with your lifestyle.
34:40
Speaker 4: You also don't want to be a marta and suffer
34:42
Speaker 4: day in day out. We're here to enjoy our life
34:44
Speaker 4: as well.
34:45
Speaker 5: So if you are sitting in front of a cocktail
34:48
Speaker 5: right now it's Friday afternoon, you could say, Okay, realistically,
34:53
Speaker 5: I would love.
34:53
Speaker 4: To have that drink.
34:55
Speaker 5: I love socializing, I love these all these things about
34:57
Speaker 5: my my lifestyle that I really enjoy. So to now
35:00
Speaker 5: make this ridiculous statement of I'm not doing this for
35:03
Speaker 5: another month when it's I really enjoy it, that's unrealistic.
35:07
Speaker 5: It's realistic when I'm hungover, but right now it's unrealistic.
35:10
Speaker 5: So how would I structure it differently? Can I maybe say, okay,
35:14
Speaker 5: I'm only going to drink twice a week, or can
35:17
Speaker 5: I say, you know, like you always have to think
35:19
Speaker 5: about how can I structure the goals when it's the
35:22
Speaker 5: hardest to do it, because the U of tomorrow the
35:27
Speaker 5: U of next week. Unless you are able to make
35:29
Speaker 5: the changes now, it's not different to who you are
35:31
Speaker 5: right now. That person doesn't have more self control than you.
35:34
Speaker 5: That person doesn't have this wave of motivation and drive
35:39
Speaker 5: that's never ending that can do. We always put off
35:41
Speaker 5: things for our future self, thinking that there's.
35:44
Speaker 2: A version of ourselves out there that's willing to do.
35:47
Speaker 4: What we're not willing to do. It's me, it's you like,
35:50
Speaker 4: it's that's sad.
35:52
Speaker 5: Why would that mean the future be more likely to
35:56
Speaker 5: do this thing that I'm not going to do now?
35:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no reason.
36:00
Speaker 5: So another good thing is can you take some of
36:03
Speaker 5: the responsibility of your future self and do it right
36:07
Speaker 5: now to help your future self. So let's say we're
36:09
Speaker 5: doing the morning thing. Okay, I really want to get
36:12
Speaker 5: up early in the way. Okay, what can I do
36:13
Speaker 5: right now to really help my future self? Because future
36:17
Speaker 5: self is me and I don't want to do it.
36:19
Speaker 5: So what can I do right now? And if I'm
36:20
Speaker 5: willing to take action now, then are more willing to
36:23
Speaker 5: take action tomorrow morning. So I'm gonna get my outfit ready.
36:25
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get my sneakers, my sock's my outfit. I'm
36:27
Speaker 5: gonna have the keys by the door. I'm gonna have
36:28
Speaker 5: the cup ready for the coffee. I'm gonna have it
36:30
Speaker 5: already to go. I'm going to set my lum on
36:33
Speaker 5: my phone and move it a little bit further away
36:34
Speaker 5: from the red big glass of water that it is
36:36
Speaker 5: so red.
36:39
Speaker 4: Now yeah, and then by the time you get up,
36:41
Speaker 4: you're like, I've made it so easy for myself. I've
36:43
Speaker 4: already done half of this. I don't have to think
36:46
Speaker 4: clothes on coffee, I'm out the door.
36:47
Speaker 2: I don't really I think that makes so much sense.
36:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's thinking.
36:51
Speaker 5: But if you're sitting there saying, oh, but I'll do
36:53
Speaker 5: it in the morning, then the chance if you're doing
36:54
Speaker 5: it in the morning are really low because if I'm
36:56
Speaker 5: not willing to do it now, I'm definitely not willing
36:58
Speaker 5: to do.
36:59
Speaker 3: It now when you're half a because that's the hardest
37:01
Speaker 3: battle is actually getting up and getting out of bed.
37:04
Speaker 3: Once you've stepped out of bed and put your clothes on,
37:06
Speaker 3: you're not going to be like, I'm not going like
37:08
Speaker 3: you're going once you've got one we.
37:11
Speaker 1: Got shared with the life coach that once came and
37:14
Speaker 1: spoke at like our old workplace was when there's things
37:17
Speaker 1: you don't want to do, set a ten minute tim yeah,
37:19
Speaker 1: and when the ten minutes stops you can stop like
37:23
Speaker 1: you're allowed to. But when you put your clothes on
37:26
Speaker 1: and you're in the car, you're not going to turn
37:27
Speaker 1: around and go home, are you? Like?
37:28
Speaker 2: Totally if you're any way to the gym. That's just
37:30
Speaker 2: one example.
37:31
Speaker 1: Wee totally in your room and sometimes I'll do it
37:34
Speaker 1: and I will be cleaning that and the ten minutes
37:35
Speaker 1: happens and I'm like, yeah, I am done. I don't
37:38
Speaker 1: want to do it anymore.
37:39
Speaker 2: I would say, ninety percent of the time you go further.
37:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just isn't.
37:44
Speaker 5: It works because the hardest thing is gaining momentum to Yes,
37:49
Speaker 5: Once the momentum is there, it's actually fine off.
37:51
Speaker 4: Like when I would when I was like writing my books,
37:54
Speaker 4: I would.
37:56
Speaker 5: Sometimes be like, I don't really have anything to get,
37:57
Speaker 5: but I'm like, but if I just sit there for
37:59
Speaker 5: the hour, even if it's garbage, I'm putting something down.
38:03
Speaker 5: I'm putting ideas down. Some days I'm going to be
38:05
Speaker 5: flying through. Some days I've got not much, but I'm
38:09
Speaker 5: setting the timer. And like you said, more often than not,
38:11
Speaker 5: I would set thirty minutes and I'd end up being
38:13
Speaker 5: there for two hours.
38:14
Speaker 4: Not every time, sometimes like yeah, that's literally all I've got.
38:18
Speaker 4: I did it, say, but more often than not, you
38:20
Speaker 4: do more.
38:21
Speaker 5: And you also want to look at emotions and feelings
38:23
Speaker 5: and what we're experiencing is nothing, not even heartbreak, not
38:26
Speaker 5: even loss. Nothing, No intense emotion can be sustained constantly.
38:33
Speaker 5: Always we go through waves. Things come in waves, so
38:38
Speaker 5: including the discomfort of waking up in the morning, that
38:40
Speaker 5: is a very short lived wave of discomfort, very very
38:43
Speaker 5: very short lived, you know. So most of most of
38:47
Speaker 5: these waves last around like a couple of minutes max.
38:50
Speaker 4: But waking up for me is a minute. If that
38:55
Speaker 4: if you get out of bed straight away.
38:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, have to hay, otherwise you're just at Homer and
39:00
Speaker 1: yet that toasty little cinnamon button photo.
39:02
Speaker 4: Yes me, yes, yeah.
39:04
Speaker 5: And then the problem is if you then sleep, because
39:06
Speaker 5: if you wake up at the you know, in the morning,
39:09
Speaker 5: you're most likely to wake up around the time that
39:11
Speaker 5: you're in like a REM sleep and rem sleep stage.
39:13
Speaker 5: This is why we remember our dreams so easily, because
39:16
Speaker 5: you've woken up in your dream state, and REM sleep
39:19
Speaker 5: is the closest to waking as far as brain waves got.
39:21
Speaker 4: So when you wake up, most of the people are
39:24
Speaker 4: going to be waking.
39:25
Speaker 5: Up with the REMS sleep unless you had really poor
39:27
Speaker 5: quality sleep and you're just in a different stage of
39:29
Speaker 5: your sleep. That's the time to get out of bed
39:31
Speaker 5: because if you then drift back off to sleep, you
39:34
Speaker 5: then risk falling into a deeper stages of sleep again
39:37
Speaker 5: and then to pull yourself out of that.
39:39
Speaker 4: That's why then you're like.
39:40
Speaker 5: Snoo snow snow after the first snooze, the first news
39:44
Speaker 5: never works, so there's no point, like you you either
39:47
Speaker 5: snooze ten times or you don't snore going to be
39:51
Speaker 5: and then you get that job being like exactly so,
39:54
Speaker 5: so you've just got to think, Okay, I need to
39:57
Speaker 5: And don't get me wrong, I still snooze, not not
40:01
Speaker 5: Monday to Friday, but I'll snooze on a weekend. Being like, honestly,
40:05
Speaker 5: this is ridiculous that just sleep is not weaken you know.
40:08
Speaker 5: So it's not like I never snooze anymore. Not, yeah,
40:10
Speaker 5: I definitely do. Or if I've had really poor sleep.
40:14
Speaker 5: There are times the way I'd have really bad sleep
40:17
Speaker 5: and my routine will go out the window because I think,
40:19
Speaker 5: right now, I know how poor quality my sleep was.
40:21
Speaker 5: I value rest over working out.
40:24
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna not do it. So again, this is
40:27
Speaker 4: the seventy thirty thing. It's not like I'm you know,
40:29
Speaker 4: it's just that most of the time I'm doing X,
40:33
Speaker 4: you know.
40:33
Speaker 5: And then It factors in for when you're not feeling well,
40:35
Speaker 5: for when you're tired, when you need that downtime, when whatever.
40:40
Speaker 5: But yeah, so when you do get up in that
40:41
Speaker 5: rem state, stay up. Just stay up because you're more
40:45
Speaker 5: likely to feel a lot more alert after a couple
40:47
Speaker 5: of minutes. But if you wake up in like a
40:49
Speaker 5: stage two or three of your sleep deep sleep, it
40:53
Speaker 5: takes like thirty minutes to feel alert.
40:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, get your ass up and woke any.
41:02
Speaker 1: Okay, Kim, I'm going to say that was my alarm
41:05
Speaker 1: and I'm good morning.
41:06
Speaker 4: You study and I'm like, kick a door off, just
41:11
Speaker 4: record all your friends voices, just like motivating you to.
41:19
Speaker 5: Like keive, morning.
41:24
Speaker 4: Wakes me up.
41:25
Speaker 1: Then I get the tiniest little like cup of her
41:27
Speaker 1: hand being like.
41:29
Speaker 4: Just stroking waving carts to tap.
41:33
Speaker 2: That is so waking me up. It's like me waking
41:36
Speaker 2: sour up. Is I go and get in bed with
41:38
Speaker 2: her and become the big smooth and go back to sleep.
41:42
Speaker 2: I wakes up and just like I'm.
41:43
Speaker 4: Like and see.
41:48
Speaker 1: But the one thing I do think is we can
41:51
Speaker 1: sometimes overlook our productivity. Like you get to the end
41:54
Speaker 1: of a work day and you're like I was at
41:57
Speaker 1: my desk all day, or I was working all day,
41:59
Speaker 1: or I did today, but I can't.
42:01
Speaker 2: Think of anything that I actually did, or I can't
42:03
Speaker 2: think of anything I achieved. And I think it would
42:06
Speaker 2: be really helpful.
42:07
Speaker 1: To know some ways that we can be a bit
42:08
Speaker 1: more mindful and a bit more conscious of our productivity,
42:12
Speaker 1: Like how can we kind of keep track on that?
42:15
Speaker 1: So we're getting that dopemine here and we're feeling good
42:17
Speaker 1: about it, which is going to make us do it
42:19
Speaker 1: more well.
42:20
Speaker 5: A big reason why a lot of people feel that
42:22
Speaker 5: way is because we have a really skewed perception on
42:27
Speaker 5: we'll prioritize everything that's quote unquote urgent, and we put
42:31
Speaker 5: way too many things in the urgent part. There's actually
42:33
Speaker 5: not as many when you look at what's really urgent.
42:36
Speaker 5: We put way too much in that urgent. This needs
42:38
Speaker 5: to be enough first and all the important things come last.
42:41
Speaker 5: So you'll do a whole day doing things that are
42:44
Speaker 5: quote unquote urgent, putting out small fires, putting out tiny fires.
42:47
Speaker 2: Marketing an email that really doesn't matter, and the.
42:49
Speaker 4: Day it gets done, you've done stuff.
42:51
Speaker 5: But the reason it doesn't feel like you've accomplished anything
42:54
Speaker 5: is because you've not hit that stuff that works for
42:57
Speaker 5: your soul, You've not worked towards that thing that matters
43:01
Speaker 5: to you, that's important to you as an individual. So
43:04
Speaker 5: it feels really unfulfilling. So you've got to find a way.
43:08
Speaker 5: And this might not be able to happen in your
43:11
Speaker 5: work hours.
43:12
Speaker 4: Everyone is different.
43:13
Speaker 5: Some people get this at work, some people get it
43:15
Speaker 5: outside of focus. But you've got to find a way
43:17
Speaker 5: to even if just for a small amount of time. Firstly,
43:20
Speaker 5: you want to categorize all the things that you have
43:22
Speaker 5: to do, which one of those are legitimately urgent, like
43:25
Speaker 5: actually time crunch. If this doesn't happen, then it will
43:27
Speaker 5: never happen, or I lose the opportunity legitimately urgent.
43:30
Speaker 4: Then you've got to put in the things what are
43:32
Speaker 4: actually important to me.
43:34
Speaker 5: And I always try and spend some time every morning
43:37
Speaker 5: at the start of the morning, even if it's twenty minutes,
43:40
Speaker 5: working on something that's really important to me, really matters
43:44
Speaker 5: to me. Some people will have more time, some people
43:46
Speaker 5: have less.
43:46
Speaker 4: Depends on your day.
43:47
Speaker 5: But if you end the day, I mean like I've
43:50
Speaker 5: done nothing, Like if you guys want to start this
43:51
Speaker 5: podcast right, but every day you'd get to the end
43:55
Speaker 5: of the day and it's still just this pipe drain
43:57
Speaker 5: just to pipeam.
43:58
Speaker 4: You're going to be feeling a bit like, oh, what
44:00
Speaker 4: did I do? What have we done all day? What
44:01
Speaker 4: have we done? You were still working, you're still doing stuff.
44:03
Speaker 5: But you'd feel very unproductive because you weren't tapping into
44:06
Speaker 5: that thing that really mattered to you that you really
44:07
Speaker 5: wanted to do. So the same guest for anyone that's
44:09
Speaker 5: wanting to do something, whether it's a hobby or whether
44:11
Speaker 5: it's career related.
44:12
Speaker 4: You've got to find a way to.
44:14
Speaker 5: Feed that every day, and then you will feel accomplished,
44:19
Speaker 5: you know, because you've always got to work on your.
44:21
Speaker 4: Growth every day.
44:22
Speaker 5: They're like the three pillars of happiness. I talk about growth, connection,
44:24
Speaker 5: and purpose, and growth is a huge one. And if
44:27
Speaker 5: you do something for your growth every day, you will
44:30
Speaker 5: at the end of the day be like, Okay, that
44:32
Speaker 5: was boring, but I got this done, and I'm really
44:34
Speaker 5: proud of myself and I feel like I've changed, I've grown,
44:36
Speaker 5: I've learned something new. And then the next day you
44:38
Speaker 5: just build on that.
44:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it is like you need to break it
44:42
Speaker 3: down into those small things every day otherwise it's just
44:45
Speaker 3: impossible to achieve anything totally.
44:48
Speaker 1: As soon as you're at it, to do this, your
44:51
Speaker 1: day just becomes so much easier and it goes really.
44:53
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, And coming back to productivity when you write
44:57
Speaker 5: it to do list, most people, I am guilty of
45:01
Speaker 5: this as well, shure.
45:02
Speaker 4: Most people want to.
45:03
Speaker 5: Do really short, easy tasks first, right, because I love
45:07
Speaker 5: to cross out.
45:08
Speaker 2: I like the handwritten so satisfying in the little.
45:13
Speaker 4: And because you want to do that, You're like, that's
45:15
Speaker 4: ten minutes, that's ten minutes, that's ten minutes, like a
45:17
Speaker 4: quicker week bank. I'm doing all these short jobs.
45:20
Speaker 5: This replied to this, Okay, now let's sit down into
45:23
Speaker 5: this bigger important time.
45:24
Speaker 4: I'm oh, oh my god, my god, to that cafe
45:27
Speaker 4: and get a coffee before I.
45:28
Speaker 5: Settle before I settle in, and then you then you
45:29
Speaker 5: go to settle in, and then someone's like, oh, I
45:31
Speaker 5: need this from you, I need this, and it never happens.
45:33
Speaker 4: So you think, okay, it's the start of the day.
45:35
Speaker 4: I've got thirty minutes.
45:36
Speaker 5: Can I do thirty minutes if this brainstorming for this
45:38
Speaker 5: thing I'm so passionate.
45:39
Speaker 4: About bang and all these ten minute tasks they're going
45:41
Speaker 4: to get done. I can slot them in.
45:42
Speaker 5: In between bigger tasks, like when I time block, I'll
45:45
Speaker 5: set forty minutes to do something and twenty minutes off.
45:48
Speaker 5: And the twenty minutes off could be scrolling on social media,
45:51
Speaker 5: could be watching TV. Or sometimes I just break the
45:54
Speaker 5: circuit and do something different.
45:55
Speaker 4: I'll clean, i'll prep, I'll do something completely different, and
45:58
Speaker 4: then back to the high focus task.
46:00
Speaker 5: But you've got to think, if this is high focused,
46:02
Speaker 5: I can't I can't have a high focused eight hour day.
46:04
Speaker 4: That's not possible. No one sustains focused that long. So
46:07
Speaker 4: how can I break it up that my high.
46:09
Speaker 5: Focused moments are when I'm normally most focused, which is
46:12
Speaker 5: for a lot of people, it's in the morning, and
46:15
Speaker 5: then a lot of people if you do get rest
46:16
Speaker 5: in the afternoon, they'll get a second wave in the evening.
46:18
Speaker 5: But it's it's normally like first thing in the morning
46:21
Speaker 5: or quite late at night, and people my ADHD people
46:24
Speaker 5: out there very often it's late at night.
46:27
Speaker 4: For people with ADHD, yeah they get a three pm slump.
46:30
Speaker 5: Yes that's everyone too, but yeah, that's because if you're
46:33
Speaker 5: circadian rhythm, there's always like a going to be a slump.
46:37
Speaker 2: What are you supposed to do at that time? Literally,
46:40
Speaker 2: I go have a mask, have open, have a caffeine nap.
46:46
Speaker 2: Yeah literally.
46:48
Speaker 3: Okay, So we have covered a lot today, but we
46:51
Speaker 3: always love to wrap our episodes with this question.
46:54
Speaker 4: So what's the biggest.
46:55
Speaker 3: Life lesson for you for creating a more productive lifestyle?
47:00
Speaker 4: Well, oh, there's just so many pure break it down
47:06
Speaker 4: into one.
47:12
Speaker 5: Oh, look when it comes to your productivity that yeah, Look,
47:16
Speaker 5: the biggest life lesson is This is actually a quote
47:19
Speaker 5: from Tony Robbins that I really liked and he said
47:22
Speaker 5: to someone it was.
47:24
Speaker 4: Like, I think on one of his TV shows on Netflix.
47:28
Speaker 5: He said to someone, you overestimate what you can do
47:31
Speaker 5: in a year, but you underestimate what you can do
47:33
Speaker 5: in ten. We are so we expect so much from
47:38
Speaker 5: ourselves in such a short amount of time, and that
47:39
Speaker 5: actually can be damaging to our relationship with ourselves because
47:42
Speaker 5: then when we don't achieve it, we're like, I'm a failure,
47:44
Speaker 5: But you're not a failure. You set yourself up to
47:48
Speaker 5: fail because you set the bar so high for a
47:51
Speaker 5: short time frame. Instead of set the bar high but
47:54
Speaker 5: allow for progress, allow for things to unfold, allow for
47:58
Speaker 5: things to develop at the cadence that they're supposed to
48:00
Speaker 5: develop at. If you then say I've got to do
48:03
Speaker 5: all of this and I have to do it now,
48:05
Speaker 5: and then you don't achieve it, you think, well, I'm
48:07
Speaker 5: obviously a failure. Look at all these times I've failed. Yeah,
48:10
Speaker 5: I'm not going to try again. I this I I
48:13
Speaker 5: And then your relationship with yourself starts to crack, you know.
48:16
Speaker 5: So if you then think, Okay, I'm going to take
48:19
Speaker 5: this goal and I'm going to stretch it out, stretch
48:21
Speaker 5: out the time, you're more likely to not only achieve it,
48:24
Speaker 5: but you're also more likely for it to become a
48:26
Speaker 5: permanent fixture in your life forever.
48:28
Speaker 4: That's why crash dietes never work.
48:30
Speaker 5: They're horrible, they're painful, everything about it's horrible, and then
48:32
Speaker 5: when you achieve it, you never stick to it because
48:35
Speaker 5: it's just completely unsustainable. And then you say, oh I failed,
48:38
Speaker 5: No you didn't, No you didn't. You just put yourself
48:39
Speaker 5: through torture and now you're not being tortured.
48:41
Speaker 1: You know.
48:42
Speaker 4: So it's you got to look at that with every goal,
48:44
Speaker 4: how can I do this? Being my friend?
48:46
Speaker 5: Because being mean to myself hasn't worked clearly, so how
48:50
Speaker 5: can I turn it around? And you know, not make
48:52
Speaker 5: the time things such. Don't fixate on when it's going
48:55
Speaker 5: to be done, because that can be your biggest enemy.
48:59
Speaker 5: Just fixate on can I implement this time you change? Yes,
49:01
Speaker 5: I've done it for five days now, now making implement
49:03
Speaker 5: this and then can add this and in one year.
49:06
Speaker 5: A lot of people like New Year's resolutions, we want
49:08
Speaker 5: to by the end of January all these things.
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Speaker 4: It's like, no, no, no, no, no.
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Speaker 5: Just think where could I be if I implemented just
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Speaker 5: these five things in my day in one year, And
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Speaker 5: a lot of people like, oh.
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Speaker 4: That's boring, I want to do it sooner.
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Speaker 5: No, no, just give yourself a year and you'll be
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Speaker 5: amazed that in a year you'll probably be doing fifteen things.
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Speaker 5: Not fine, but it's this idea of I just want
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Speaker 5: to make it permanent. Yeah, I'm just going to be
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Speaker 5: patient with myself.
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Speaker 4: Patience. We're talking about patience, and that's actually what makes
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Speaker 4: it perminent. So yeah, that's a bit of a long
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Speaker 4: winded No.
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Speaker 1: I really like that you underestimate you can do in
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Speaker 1: ten days, but you overestimate what you can do it
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Speaker 1: in a year.
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Speaker 2: I've never done that ever.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm perfect.
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Speaker 3: That's a good reminder as well, because nobody expects you
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Speaker 3: to do these things by this deadline, you're just putting yourself.
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Speaker 2: Nobody else is asking you.
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Speaker 4: Nobody's going to be.
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Speaker 2: Waiting there being Yeah exactly, it's sour with the crowbar.
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Speaker 4: You said.
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Speaker 3: Nobody else is putting that pressure on you. Yeah, so
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Speaker 3: you can also take that pressure up totally.
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Speaker 5: And then also a little piece of advice if you
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Speaker 5: really want to make change, and there's all these studies
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Speaker 5: that back this, which I love. If you really want
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Speaker 5: to make permanent, lasting we're not even if you want
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Speaker 5: to do something in your life. Normally we'll tell everyone
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Speaker 5: that we're doing something to get like the accolades and
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Speaker 5: to get this into The more people you tell, the
50:30
Speaker 5: less likely you're actually going to follow Through's doing that thing,
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Speaker 5: which is wild, and it's because one of the reasons
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Speaker 5: why we do all these things is to feel certain emotions.
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Speaker 5: We want to fel accomplished, we want to feel really good.
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Speaker 5: We're doing this because we want a feeling. We're chasing
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Speaker 5: a feeling, which is great. That's why we do anything
50:45
Speaker 5: in our life. But if you start telling somebody. If
50:48
Speaker 5: I tell you I'm I'm going to run a marathon
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Speaker 5: this year, I'm doing it. It's happening. It's definitely happening.
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Speaker 4: I'm running it. Haven't even started training. My babe, that's
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Speaker 4: so amazing. Oh my god, you're a babe. Oh my god,
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Speaker 4: that's going to happen. And then I'm like, that's god.
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Speaker 4: I'm just sitting there literally, and then you just you.
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Speaker 5: Then before you know it, you've told everyone you've you've
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Speaker 5: felt all the feelings, and then you're like, now I
51:14
Speaker 5: actually have to run this thing, and I don't want
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Speaker 5: to and I've already felt I got all the congratulations
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Speaker 5: on the accolades. Now now I've got to do it,
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Speaker 5: and I.
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Speaker 4: Don't want to do it because I feel flat.
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Speaker 5: So I always say, the more you want something, the
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Speaker 5: less people you tell unless they're completely relevant to it,
51:29
Speaker 5: like yeah, you know, directly involved. Keep it to yourself
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Speaker 5: and think if the only way that I can show
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Speaker 5: people that I've done something is through my actions, what
51:38
Speaker 5: would my actions look like.
51:41
Speaker 2: That's a great place to finish.
51:44
Speaker 3: But before we let you go, where can the chicks
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Speaker 3: find you and learn more about you?
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Speaker 4: Yes, I've got a podcast called Do Your Fucking Mind.
51:55
Speaker 4: We've hit some roadblocks with that with like sponsors and stuff,
51:58
Speaker 4: but I'm like, it's just it's change.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to work with those nerds anyway. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: do you freaking mad?
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Speaker 4: Freaking yeah, can you imagine? Imagine freaking cute?
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Speaker 1: So like you.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, and then I've got my books. I've got
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Speaker 4: to be bold. And then I've got the Neuroscience of Self.
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Speaker 1: Love, which both amazing fans fut links to everything in
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Speaker 1: the show notes as usual so that you can find it.
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Speaker 3: But thank you so much for coming on. I feel
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Speaker 3: like we can have you on everybody enough.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we'll definitely have to have.
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Speaker 3: You on again.
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Speaker 4: I need you to be my alarm I get up
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Speaker 4: please subscription every morning. I should sell that. Oh my god,
52:51
Speaker 4: that's such a good idea. You should sell that personalized
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they will play that every morning.
52:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, perfect, would.
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Speaker 1: Love that.
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for joining us, and thank
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Speaker 2: you to your chicks for having us in the ear holes.
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Speaker 2: We absolutely love to be here.
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Speaker 1: We love it.
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