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Mastering the Art of Hyper-Personalization w/ Jeremie Kubicek · Something Extra

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  Lisa Nichols: I'm excited to have Jeremie Kubicek on the show today.
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  Lisa Nichols: Jeremie is a cofounder of Giant and an author.
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  Lisa Nichols: His latest book is called The Voice Driven Leader.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, Jeremie Kubicek, how are you, my friend?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Good to see you.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: I'm doing great.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: How about you?
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  Lisa Nichols: I'm good too.
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  Lisa Nichols: I'm good.
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  Lisa Nichols: Oh, my word.
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  Lisa Nichols: I am so delighted that we were able to do a part two with
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  Lisa Nichols: you.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Absolutely.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: It's I love being with you, seeing your world,
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  Jeremie Kucicek: just, you know, being in St.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Louis and and seeing what you're really about.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Because you're awesome online, but then when we meet you, then
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  Jeremie Kucicek: you know how you're you're aligned with, like, who you think you are is
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  Jeremie Kucicek: even better and your organization.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So it was really great to be with you.
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  Lisa Nichols: Oh my goodness.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, thank you so much for that.
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  Lisa Nichols: We have to I'm gonna go back and give a shout out.
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  Lisa Nichols: Laura Sheinhauer is the one that connected us.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Mhmm.
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  Lisa Nichols: And then I'm telling Greg about you, Jeremie.
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  Lisa Nichols: I'm like, I've got Jeremie Kubichek coming on the the podcast, you know, today.
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  Lisa Nichols: We talk about the different guests.
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  Lisa Nichols: And he's like, Lisa.
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  Lisa Nichols: He goes, I know Jeremie.
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  Lisa Nichols: And I said, you do?
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  Lisa Nichols: How do you know Jeremie?
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  Lisa Nichols: He said, well, when Sawyer and I went to Kanaka for the
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: Father son That's right.
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  Lisa Nichols: Weekend or grandpa, in his case, Poppy, poppy grandson,
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  Lisa Nichols: Jeremie was one of the speakers or the speaker.
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  Lisa Nichols: And, he just he loved it.
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  Lisa Nichols: So yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: So we just had an instantaneous connection.
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  Lisa Nichols: And you were I was looking it up.
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  Lisa Nichols: You were podcast episode two seventy one
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Alright.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Okay.
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  Lisa Nichols: Which was in twenty twenty four.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Yep.
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  Lisa Nichols: We're on episode three sixty seven now, I think,
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  Lisa Nichols: or three seventy.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: It back.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: I made it back.
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  Lisa Nichols: You made it back.
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  Lisa Nichols: But that's a hundred episodes later.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: And, of course, you've continued to do amazing things.
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  Lisa Nichols: But the cool thing about it is, Jeremie, when we met, then we've done
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  Lisa Nichols: other things together.
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  Lisa Nichols: So I brought you in as a keynote speaker for the CIO summit
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  Lisa Nichols: in Saint Louis, and you blew it out of the water.
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  Lisa Nichols: And so I just I love that.
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  Lisa Nichols: I just love Absolutely.
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  Lisa Nichols: Being able to collaborate and create new things.
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  Lisa Nichols: And so I just know that our conversation today is going to be helpful
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  Lisa Nichols: for our listeners.
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  Lisa Nichols: Jeremie is, a keynote speaker.
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  Lisa Nichols: He I mean, when I when we talked in twenty twenty four, I know
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  Lisa Nichols: you had founded cofounded twenty five different companies.
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  Lisa Nichols: It's probably thirty now.
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  Lisa Nichols: Who knows?
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  Lisa Nichols: But he's the CEO and founder of Giant,
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  Lisa Nichols: has written now how many books now?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Seven books.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So that was my seventh one.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: This one is.
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  Lisa Nichols: This one here.
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  Lisa Nichols: And this is the voice driven leader, and we're gonna do a lot of
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  Lisa Nichols: talking about that.
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  Lisa Nichols: But, yeah, I would just encourage our listeners.
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  Lisa Nichols: If you have not followed Jeremie, start following him.
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  Lisa Nichols: Get his books.
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  Lisa Nichols: He's got the peace index, two voices, five gears,
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  Lisa Nichols: and that's one that Greg and I both read years ago before we even
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  Lisa Nichols: knew who you were.
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  Lisa Nichols: The hundred x leader is another awesome, awesome book that I would
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  Lisa Nichols: highly recommend, making your leadership come alive.
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  Lisa Nichols: I mean, The Communication Code Mhmm.
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  Lisa Nichols: Is another really good one.
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  Lisa Nichols: So follow Jeremie if you need a keynote speaker.
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  Lisa Nichols: I'm sure he would be happy to look at his schedule for that.
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  Lisa Nichols: And then, Jeremie, how many coaches do you have now?
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  Lisa Nichols: How many We have.
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  Lisa Nichols: Sherpas do you have?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: We have five hundred, coaches in the giant ecosystem,
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  Jeremie Kucicek: working around the world.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
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  Lisa Nichols: And so if you need a coach
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Yep.
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  Lisa Nichols: Or you need, you know, a specialized workshop for your organization,
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  Lisa Nichols: reach out to to Jeremie.
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  Lisa Nichols: So just, just an amazing, amazing person.
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  Lisa Nichols: So go back, listeners.
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  Lisa Nichols: I would really highly encourage you to go back to episode two seventy one
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  Lisa Nichols: because we really set it up and, you know, there was an event that
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  Lisa Nichols: happened with Jeremie.
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  Lisa Nichols: I'm not gonna spool it for you, but it was a life changing event,
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  Lisa Nichols: pivotal event in his life.
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  Lisa Nichols: And so go back and listen to episode two seventy one.
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  Lisa Nichols: But I am holding your newest book, The Voice Driven
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  Lisa Nichols: Leader.
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  Lisa Nichols: The subtext is how to hear, value, and maximize
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  Lisa Nichols: every voice on your team.
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  Lisa Nichols: So, Jeremie, what is the voice driven leader, and why is it so timely
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  Lisa Nichols: in the era that we're in and especially in the AI area?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Absolutely.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So here's the here's the big idea.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: If you speak to someone and so let me
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  Jeremie Kucicek: let me do this.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: If you're on the streets in Paris and you stop
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  Jeremie Kucicek: into a cafe and have you been to Paris, Lisa?
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  Lisa Nichols: I have.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: K.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: You go into, they're a little persnickety, the waiters.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And you go into a little cafe, and you said, hey.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Hey.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Coffee.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Black.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Just black.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Coffee.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Right?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And then you sit down, and then you how's that gonna go?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Probably not great.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: You're probably gonna get some pushback.
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  Lisa Nichols: And the other thing you need to be aware of is their coffee is,
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  Lisa Nichols: like, in a little shot glass.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Exactly.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: But if you get a if you said, bonjour, cafe,
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Like, just simply speaking their language, the chances
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  Jeremie Kucicek: of it going better would happen.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: So Right.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: The same idea with, anyone on your team,
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  Jeremie Kucicek: your spouse, your kids.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: If you can learn to speak their language, you'll have more influence, more
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  Jeremie Kucicek: impact versus forcing them to speak yours.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: I lived in Russia.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So when I spoke when I speak Russian, I was in the airport recently,
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  Jeremie Kucicek: and I spoke Russian to this person, and they just came alive because
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  Jeremie Kucicek: I understood them.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And they felt valued, and they felt connected, and we had an instant rapport
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  Jeremie Kucicek: simply because I was attempting to speak their language.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So what happens is so that's part one of the book.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Mhmm.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: The part two of the book is then if you know who
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  Jeremie Kucicek: you are, your voice, and you know who they are and their voice,
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  Jeremie Kucicek: then where are you taking them?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: What's the development plan?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And the entire book is, like, developing people through your
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  Jeremie Kucicek: ecosystem.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: It's like I would I would say this biasly.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: This is the best leadership book.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: It's the most practical leadership book because it tells you exactly how to develop
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  Jeremie Kucicek: an employee and or a teammate.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And, that's what the book is about.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
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  Lisa Nichols: It's good.
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  Lisa Nichols: It's so good.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: I have not read it all, but I can show you here, Jeremie.
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  Lisa Nichols: See?
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  Lisa Nichols: I've got stars.
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  Lisa Nichols: I've got asterisks.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Mhmm.
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  Lisa Nichols: It's really just, you know, there's so much good
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  Lisa Nichols: stuff in here.
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  Lisa Nichols: It says developing people doesn't fail from the lack
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  Lisa Nichols: of care.
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  Lisa Nichols: It fails when everything else crowds it out.
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  Lisa Nichols: You know?
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  Lisa Nichols: And I know that you,
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  Lisa Nichols: because here you say most leaders are juggling three competing
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  Lisa Nichols: pressures in their daily work.
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  Lisa Nichols: The number one is clients, customers demanding immediate results,
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  Lisa Nichols: making sure projects are going on time, on budget.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: Number two, their boss is expecting strong performance metrics.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Mhmm.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Mhmm.
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  Lisa Nichols: And then team members needing help, clarity, and development.
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  Lisa Nichols: And you said when things really get busy, that's the one that gets neglected.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: It's like your kids.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: It's like in your family.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: You can take your family for granted because and then if someone shows
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  Jeremie Kucicek: up and you're all scurried at home and it's like, oh, come on in.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: How are you?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And you put on that show, it's the same with clients.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: It's like, we're so busy making the doughnuts.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So when when, guess who gets the first the person who's
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  Jeremie Kucicek: paying the bill gets the focus.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And it and it's not bad.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: That's not, like, like, that's just reality.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So if you know it, then how can you be intentional in training
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  Jeremie Kucicek: and developing your people while those things are happening?
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  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So the idea of intentional
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  Jeremie Kucicek: development and apprenticeship.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: An apprenticeship is a lost art in our country, in America, or in the,
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  Jeremie Kucicek: let's just say, in the west.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: We don't know how to apprentice people because in the in the past, it
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  Jeremie Kucicek: was easy if we're, like, building a building or if you're a stonemason.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Okay.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Watch me.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Right.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Now help me.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Now I'm gonna help you, then I'm gonna watch you.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And there's a process for apprenticeship with technology,
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  Jeremie Kucicek: with AI, with it's like, watch how I send this text.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: No one's gonna do that.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Watch me.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: How do you see how I did that email?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And so there's not as much apprenticeship that happens any longer.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And so, therefore, development is usually, let's
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  Jeremie Kucicek: send them into a training workshop, check that box.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: We did it.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: We have trainings.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: We have workshops.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Or watch this course online, and we hope
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  Lisa Nichols: you get it.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: We hope you get it.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: That's what happens.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right.
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  Lisa Nichols: You know, you just remind me because, you know, like, I started my career
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  Lisa Nichols: in accounting, and then I pivoted about five and a half years
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  Lisa Nichols: into my career into corporate sales.
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  Lisa Nichols: And I had a boss that he would do ride alongs.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Yep.
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  Lisa Nichols: I mean, he he went everywhere with me, right, whether I wanted him to
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  Lisa Nichols: or not.
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  Lisa Nichols: And I love you, Dave Bombard.
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  Lisa Nichols: You taught me so much.
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  Lisa Nichols: But he would do ride alongs.
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  Lisa Nichols: And then, you know, kind of have a, like, a retrospective after
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  Lisa Nichols: calls, and here's you did that well, but maybe try this
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  Lisa Nichols: next time.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: And
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  Jeremie Kucicek: We call that, we call that a curbside review.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So after any meeting that I go on and I take someone with me,
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  Jeremie Kucicek: and I usually take someone with me, no matter where.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: I'm not actually CEO any longer of Giant.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: I transitioned this last year to one of my right hand guys, and
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  Jeremie Kucicek: now I'm just a founder.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: But I'll take people with me.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And when I do, after the meeting, I'll go, okay.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: What what did you see that I did that you wouldn't have thought?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Like, what was good that you would never have thought of to do that
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  Jeremie Kucicek: maybe I just unconscious confidence do?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And so that's interesting.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: What could it, where where was their pain?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: What did you see in them?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: What could I have done better?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Really simple things.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And then I'll do the same with them.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Now if I go with them and they do the work, we do curbside
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  Jeremie Kucicek: review.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So by doing the curbside review, you know it's objective.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: I'm not picking on you.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: I'm not don't get defensive.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: We're just all constant improvement.
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  Lisa Nichols: But Yes.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: If you don't have that, what you had, the ride along or the curbside
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  Jeremie Kucicek: review, then there's no place to get real time
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  Jeremie Kucicek: development.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And you need to do it right after a meeting.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Don't wait because people will, you know, get busy,
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  Jeremie Kucicek: and then I can't remember.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Was it one week ago?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: I don't know.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: I've had ten meetings since.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: For me, it's like, what it what do we even talk about?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Right.
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  Lisa Nichols: This is like we're moving at such a fast pace.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, why is this so important?
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  Lisa Nichols: Like, let's let's I mean, you've already said it, like, with AI.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Yep.
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  Lisa Nichols: AI is the the word, the that
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  Lisa Nichols: I mean, every conversation I have Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: Anymore, Jeremie, it's AI.
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  Lisa Nichols: So why is this so important, like, in the AI era?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So we've we built so this this whole book was built off of the
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  Jeremie Kucicek: five voices.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So the five voices is our proprietary,
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  Jeremie Kucicek: personality and wiring.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: It's the Mhmm.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Simplest, we believe, the most practical,
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  Jeremie Kucicek: scalable, personality assessment.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: But we built the Five Voices AI.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And so now imagine this.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: If you know your wiring so, like, it's it's it's hard if
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  Jeremie Kucicek: to go, I'm an ENFP.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: It's hard to explain it to someone else, or I'm a high d, high
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  Jeremie Kucicek: I, or I'm a seven with a wing eight.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Other people don't know how to connect.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: But if I go, I'm a connector, you're a nurturer or a creative,
• 13:52
  Jeremie Kucicek: then then it's easier language.
• 13:54
  Jeremie Kucicek: Well, we built we built Five Voices AI to for this very,
• 13:59
  Jeremie Kucicek: issue because, the future of our world is hyper
• 14:04
  Jeremie Kucicek: personalization
• 14:05
  Jeremie Kucicek: because it's been so difficult to remember in the past.
• 14:09
  Jeremie Kucicek: So we built it so anyone on our team, if you if you've all
• 14:12
  Jeremie Kucicek: taken the assessment, and I know, Lisa, that you're a, let's just say
• 14:16
  Jeremie Kucicek: you're a pioneer connector.
• 14:17
  Jeremie Kucicek: Okay?
• 14:18
  Jeremie Kucicek: I'm Mhmm.
• 14:19
  Jeremie Kucicek: For for example, and I'm a connector creative, then it
• 14:23
  Jeremie Kucicek: will automatically tell me, how to deal with you.
• 14:26
  Jeremie Kucicek: So I could say, hey.
• 14:27
  Jeremie Kucicek: I need to give a a performance review.
• 14:30
  Jeremie Kucicek: Take this performance review and tailor it to Lisa.
• 14:33
  Jeremie Kucicek: So it now does the work of hyper personalizing everything.
• 14:37
  Jeremie Kucicek: Write this email to her in her language.
• 14:40
  Jeremie Kucicek: Tell me how she's what did she say as a pioneer connector?
• 14:44
  Jeremie Kucicek: What was that email?
• 14:44
  Jeremie Kucicek: What does she mean by that?
• 14:46
  Jeremie Kucicek: So now what it's doing is I'm hyper personalizing based on you.
• 14:51
  Jeremie Kucicek: So the voice driven leader means that I'm using the best of AI.
• 14:55
  Jeremie Kucicek: I'm using great leadership principles, but I'm customizing it
• 15:00
  Jeremie Kucicek: specifically to your language.
• 15:02
  Lisa Nichols: There's so good.
• 15:04
  Jeremie Kucicek: There's five voices, but there's sixteen variations of those voices.
• 15:08
  Jeremie Kucicek: Mhmm.
• 15:09
  Jeremie Kucicek: Though, therefore, there's sixteen different variations of personality in
• 15:13
  Jeremie Kucicek: the ecosystem of our world.
• 15:15
  Jeremie Kucicek: Well, if I can leverage AI to customize a sales
• 15:19
  Jeremie Kucicek: proposal
• 15:21
  Jeremie Kucicek: or a pitch or, PDF or we've even taken
• 15:25
  Jeremie Kucicek: it we've even taken books now.
• 15:26
  Jeremie Kucicek: We've taken chapters of books, and I've been working on this.
• 15:30
  Jeremie Kucicek: I've been taking it and putting it into my voice's AI to customize
• 15:35
  Jeremie Kucicek: a chapter to be rewritten to a nurturer from a pioneer.
• 15:39
  Jeremie Kucicek: Same
• 15:39
  Lisa Nichols: Oh my goodness.
• 15:41
  Jeremie Kucicek: Same content just written differently with different,
• 15:46
  Jeremie Kucicek: inclinations and different idioms to to connect with that person.
• 15:50
  Jeremie Kucicek: That's the the crazy part of what AI can do.
• 15:54
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 15:55
  Lisa Nichols: Oh my goodness.
• 15:56
  Lisa Nichols: That is amazing.
• 15:57
  Lisa Nichols: Wow.
• 15:58
  Lisa Nichols: I love it.
• 15:59
  Lisa Nichols: So, really, this tool is going to help the voice
• 16:03
  Lisa Nichols: driven leader
• 16:06
  Lisa Nichols: with with every unique person on their team.
• 16:10
  Jeremie Kucicek: That's right.
• 16:10
  Jeremie Kucicek: And it and it starts with the first phase of the foundation stage.
• 16:14
  Jeremie Kucicek: We use the development square, and we go use the development square as
• 16:18
  Jeremie Kucicek: a road map to go, okay.
• 16:19
  Jeremie Kucicek: You've got a brand new employee.
• 16:21
  Jeremie Kucicek: Okay?
• 16:21
  Jeremie Kucicek: That's the foundation stage.
• 16:22
  Jeremie Kucicek: It's called onboarding.
• 16:24
  Jeremie Kucicek: We know that.
• 16:25
  Jeremie Kucicek: But the onboarding stage, of a new employee, well,
• 16:29
  Jeremie Kucicek: who are you and who are they?
• 16:31
  Jeremie Kucicek: So that's where it starts.
• 16:32
  Jeremie Kucicek: So Mhmm.
• 16:33
  Jeremie Kucicek: It's all about expectation management.
• 16:36
  Jeremie Kucicek: So if you know, like, what are their expectations?
• 16:39
  Jeremie Kucicek: So a guardian let me give you an example.
• 16:41
  Jeremie Kucicek: A guardian, they want detail, practical.
• 16:44
  Jeremie Kucicek: They like check marks.
• 16:46
  Jeremie Kucicek: They like to okay.
• 16:46
  Jeremie Kucicek: I did a, then b, then c, then d, then e.
• 16:49
  Jeremie Kucicek: Well, if you're a connector like me, we're spontaneous.
• 16:54
  Jeremie Kucicek: We're like, hey.
• 16:55
  Jeremie Kucicek: Let's just figure it out.
• 16:56
  Jeremie Kucicek: Or I want you to go spend time with with Jenny.
• 16:59
  Jeremie Kucicek: I want you to go spend time with Tom.
• 17:00
  Jeremie Kucicek: You spend time with Greg.
• 17:02
  Jeremie Kucicek: But it's, like, not the road map that that person actually needs
• 17:06
  Jeremie Kucicek: to thrive.
• 17:08
  Jeremie Kucicek: Though they're gonna always feel like they're not prepared.
• 17:11
  Jeremie Kucicek: So if I know that that they're a guardian, then I build a guardian
• 17:15
  Jeremie Kucicek: road map.
• 17:16
  Jeremie Kucicek: Now I can use AI.
• 17:18
  Jeremie Kucicek: Hey.
• 17:18
  Jeremie Kucicek: For a guardian, here's what I wanna accomplish.
• 17:21
  Jeremie Kucicek: Could you build a checklist system for them?
• 17:25
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so now it's specifically giving them an onboarding category that's totally
• 17:29
  Jeremie Kucicek: different than a nurturer.
• 17:30
  Jeremie Kucicek: Who a nurturer, they wanna feel connected to the team.
• 17:33
  Jeremie Kucicek: They want they they wanna know how they can
• 17:36
  Lisa Nichols: help.
• 17:37
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 17:38
  Jeremie Kucicek: Versus a pioneer.
• 17:39
  Jeremie Kucicek: It's like, hey, guys.
• 17:40
  Jeremie Kucicek: Just tell me where how do we win?
• 17:42
  Lisa Nichols: We gotta go.
• 17:43
  Jeremie Kucicek: What are we doing?
• 17:44
  Jeremie Kucicek: Like, let's don't don't waste time.
• 17:46
  Jeremie Kucicek: I have to read all this.
• 17:48
  Jeremie Kucicek: I have to do all this.
• 17:49
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 17:50
  Jeremie Kucicek: So that's the dynamic.
• 17:51
  Jeremie Kucicek: It's like if you can take people through the foundation stage, then they
• 17:55
  Jeremie Kucicek: turn the corner, into the immersion stage, which then you start
• 18:00
  Jeremie Kucicek: immersing them into their responsibility and their role.
• 18:03
  Jeremie Kucicek: And that's where their confidence and their competency drop
• 18:07
  Jeremie Kucicek: because they're consciously aware that they don't know what they're doing yet.
• 18:11
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so that's where faking it to make it usually happens.
• 18:15
  Jeremie Kucicek: And then some personalities end up in the bottom right corner of the development
• 18:19
  Jeremie Kucicek: square, and it's all in the book.
• 18:20
  Jeremie Kucicek: We have this thing totally mapped out, charts, all of it.
• 18:24
  Jeremie Kucicek: But in the bottom right corner, it sets the pit of despair.
• 18:27
  Jeremie Kucicek: And what happens is this is the highest level of insecurity
• 18:31
  Jeremie Kucicek: and incompetence
• 18:33
  Jeremie Kucicek: and where people are like, I don't know if this is for me.
• 18:36
  Jeremie Kucicek: I don't think I'm gonna make it.
• 18:38
  Lisa Nichols: Be right.
• 18:39
  Jeremie Kucicek: And it might and usually, anyone who goes in the pit of despair, they
• 18:43
  Jeremie Kucicek: they clock in in the mornings at your office, and then they they go
• 18:46
  Jeremie Kucicek: downstairs with the three other people then in the pit of despair.
• 18:50
  Jeremie Kucicek: And they're like, yeah.
• 18:51
  Jeremie Kucicek: Who pushed you in here?
• 18:52
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
• 18:52
  Jeremie Kucicek: Lisa?
• 18:53
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
• 18:53
  Jeremie Kucicek: I know.
• 18:54
  Jeremie Kucicek: She's the worst.
• 18:54
  Jeremie Kucicek: And then they gossip, and the stress behavior shows up in the pit of
• 18:58
  Jeremie Kucicek: despair.
• 18:59
  Jeremie Kucicek: And the larger the company, the more people are independent of despair.
• 19:03
  Jeremie Kucicek: So what we're saying is, like, if you're a leader, it you can't
• 19:07
  Jeremie Kucicek: you have to avoid it at all costs.
• 19:09
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
• 19:09
  Jeremie Kucicek: Because if they go into pit of despair, we've never seen anyone make it
• 19:13
  Jeremie Kucicek: out and be helpful.
• 19:15
  Lisa Nichols: It's toxic.
• 19:16
  Jeremie Kucicek: They have to they have to leave.
• 19:18
  Jeremie Kucicek: You either have to help them leave or they're going to leave.
• 19:21
  Jeremie Kucicek: Mhmm.
• 19:22
  Jeremie Kucicek: So that that pivot from the foundation stage to the immersion
• 19:26
  Jeremie Kucicek: stage to the empowerment stage, that's when they consciously
• 19:30
  Jeremie Kucicek: get it.
• 19:32
  Jeremie Kucicek: Oh, got it.
• 19:34
  Jeremie Kucicek: And they lock in and their confidence starts rising.
• 19:37
  Jeremie Kucicek: They start getting better and better and better, and then they start going in
• 19:41
  Jeremie Kucicek: the right direction, but there's another trap.
• 19:43
  Jeremie Kucicek: There's a trap over here to pit her despair.
• 19:45
  Jeremie Kucicek: We've avoided it.
• 19:46
  Jeremie Kucicek: The other trap is called the green room, and the green room is when
• 19:50
  Jeremie Kucicek: you get, an employee who maybe maybe they think they're all
• 19:54
  Jeremie Kucicek: that.
• 19:55
  Jeremie Kucicek: They get cocky, and they get into the green room, and that's where the
• 19:58
  Jeremie Kucicek: snacks are meant for the people on stage and not for them.
• 20:02
  Jeremie Kucicek: And or you put them there because they're the
• 20:06
  Jeremie Kucicek: teacher's pet.
• 20:07
  Jeremie Kucicek: They're your favorite.
• 20:08
  Jeremie Kucicek: Mhmm.
• 20:09
  Jeremie Kucicek: And you're like, hey, Lisa.
• 20:09
  Jeremie Kucicek: You don't need to read that.
• 20:11
  Jeremie Kucicek: You're good.
• 20:11
  Jeremie Kucicek: And then other people see that he doesn't need to read it because you're
• 20:15
  Jeremie Kucicek: and so or they they are, like, they're the guardians
• 20:20
  Jeremie Kucicek: or nurtures that don't they they finally perfected their work, and they
• 20:24
  Jeremie Kucicek: don't wanna have to relearn something new.
• 20:27
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 20:28
  Jeremie Kucicek: So a lot of times people will stay in this comfort area.
• 20:31
  Jeremie Kucicek: So you go to the pit of despair.
• 20:33
  Jeremie Kucicek: Let's keep away insecurity.
• 20:35
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yes.
• 20:35
  Jeremie Kucicek: Green room, over secure, or comfort
• 20:39
  Jeremie Kucicek: where that last stage is now multiplication.
• 20:42
  Jeremie Kucicek: Like, no.
• 20:43
  Jeremie Kucicek: I need you to help me train other people.
• 20:47
  Jeremie Kucicek: I need you to help me because I'm gonna get promoted, and I need
• 20:50
  Jeremie Kucicek: you to take my job.
• 20:51
  Jeremie Kucicek: Mhmm.
• 20:52
  Jeremie Kucicek: So you gotta multiply, but then there's more incompetence,
• 20:56
  Jeremie Kucicek: unconscious or you're just conscious incompetence.
• 20:59
  Lisa Nichols: Unconscious incompetence.
• 21:00
  Jeremie Kucicek: I've gotta learn more things.
• 21:03
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so the square, you're always developing.
• 21:06
  Jeremie Kucicek: Right now, most people are learning how to use AI, and it's like a
• 21:09
  Jeremie Kucicek: development process.
• 21:11
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 21:11
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so we're always learning something, but the square is an actual
• 21:15
  Jeremie Kucicek: road map.
• 21:16
  Jeremie Kucicek: So if you know the voice and you know who you are, who they
• 21:20
  Jeremie Kucicek: are, where are they on the square right now, Then you can use
• 21:24
  Jeremie Kucicek: the five voices AI to go, I've gotta nurture a guardian.
• 21:27
  Jeremie Kucicek: How do I keep them out of the pit of despair?
• 21:30
  Jeremie Kucicek: It tells you.
• 21:32
  Jeremie Kucicek: You just follow it.
• 21:33
  Lisa Nichols: So good, Jeremie.
• 21:35
  Lisa Nichols: I'm just thinking every organization needs to
• 21:39
  Lisa Nichols: to use this methodology.
• 21:41
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 21:42
  Lisa Nichols: They do.
• 21:42
  Lisa Nichols: You know?
• 21:43
  Jeremie Kucicek: And we just certify people to do it.
• 21:44
  Jeremie Kucicek: We just teach you how to do it, and then you Right.
• 21:46
  Lisa Nichols: Then you
• 21:47
  Jeremie Kucicek: run with it.
• 21:48
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 21:49
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 21:50
  Lisa Nichols: So, yeah, I'm I'm kinda getting off my,
• 21:54
  Lisa Nichols: what I was gonna ask you.
• 21:55
  Lisa Nichols: But, I mean, when you are working with an organization,
• 21:59
  Lisa Nichols: tell our listeners how that works.
• 22:00
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, so you find a master champion or a master
• 22:05
  Lisa Nichols: person that would get certified, and then that person within the organization
• 22:09
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
• 22:10
  Lisa Nichols: We Or if you don't do that, I'm sure one of your coaches Yeah.
• 22:13
  Jeremie Kucicek: We could We
• 22:14
  Lisa Nichols: it's it depends.
• 22:14
  Lisa Nichols: Too.
• 22:15
  Jeremie Kucicek: It it's all based on the size of your organization.
• 22:17
  Jeremie Kucicek: We we call them a catalyst.
• 22:19
  Jeremie Kucicek: They get trained on the system.
• 22:21
  Jeremie Kucicek: And then Mhmm.
• 22:22
  Jeremie Kucicek: They run the system.
• 22:23
  Jeremie Kucicek: And with the system, there's it it's like the implementation of the five voices,
• 22:27
  Jeremie Kucicek: and then they teach them how to use the five voices AI in their
• 22:30
  Jeremie Kucicek: everyday world.
• 22:32
  Jeremie Kucicek: And it's it's AI, but it's so different because now it's hyper customized
• 22:36
  Jeremie Kucicek: of every person on your team.
• 22:38
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so and and we've actually, built it.
• 22:42
  Jeremie Kucicek: It's actually cheaper than if you bought just ChatTBT for your people.
• 22:46
  Jeremie Kucicek: So it's really interesting how, you know, we built our LLM.
• 22:50
  Jeremie Kucicek: But by doing it, now I'm using Five Voices AI,
• 22:54
  Jeremie Kucicek: then you can use an outside consultant if you need because sometimes,
• 22:59
  Jeremie Kucicek: the outside voice,
• 23:01
  Jeremie Kucicek: and or you're so busy, you can't do all these things, so you'll use
• 23:05
  Jeremie Kucicek: a consultant as well or a coach as well.
• 23:08
  Jeremie Kucicek: It just depends on what your culture's like.
• 23:10
  Jeremie Kucicek: But what we did is we tried to remove all the barriers of time.
• 23:15
  Jeremie Kucicek: We made it where you can do this in record time.
• 23:18
  Jeremie Kucicek: You can implement it.
• 23:19
  Jeremie Kucicek: And then AI, people are used to it.
• 23:22
  Jeremie Kucicek: But now once you know your people, it's a competitive advantage.
• 23:26
  Jeremie Kucicek: And now it just becomes, so crazy.
• 23:29
  Jeremie Kucicek: In fact, we built another piece, another, we
• 23:33
  Jeremie Kucicek: split out one of our teams to build another business that's called Workplace,
• 23:38
  Jeremie Kucicek: and now we we're using AI to,
• 23:42
  Jeremie Kucicek: audit culture in real time like a stock ticker.
• 23:45
  Jeremie Kucicek: But we what we do is we take Microsoft Teams, Zoom, or
• 23:50
  Jeremie Kucicek: Slack, and we can give you a minute by minute culture score.
• 23:54
  Jeremie Kucicek: So if you send an email out, you can see the culture go down
• 23:57
  Jeremie Kucicek: or up.
• 23:58
  Jeremie Kucicek: And what it does is it basically keeps it shows burnout, psychological
• 24:03
  Jeremie Kucicek: safety.
• 24:03
  Jeremie Kucicek: It shows employee engagement in real time, so you don't
• 24:07
  Jeremie Kucicek: need surveys anymore.
• 24:09
  Jeremie Kucicek: So we've just eliminated surveys, and that's the kind of stuff that we're doing
• 24:13
  Jeremie Kucicek: with human kind of psychology, leadership,
• 24:17
  Jeremie Kucicek: personality.
• 24:19
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 24:19
  Lisa Nichols: Well and I'm just thinking when you get that culture index or
• 24:23
  Lisa Nichols: culture score in real time, it allows you
• 24:28
  Lisa Nichols: to map what just happened Yeah.
• 24:30
  Lisa Nichols: Really back to kind of how everyone's feeling.
• 24:33
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 24:33
  Lisa Nichols: And sometimes you you kind of lose that in in
• 24:38
  Lisa Nichols: the pace at which everything goes.
• 24:40
  Lisa Nichols: But I'm just thinking it gives you the opportunity then to pivot.
• 24:43
  Jeremie Kucicek: It's like employee confidence.
• 24:45
  Jeremie Kucicek: It's like it's like the stock market.
• 24:47
  Jeremie Kucicek: Every day, you watch the stock market go up and down based on the
• 24:50
  Jeremie Kucicek: factors.
• 24:51
  Lisa Nichols: That is so good.
• 24:52
  Lisa Nichols: Well, Jeremie, we do need to take a quick break, and we'll be right
• 24:54
  Lisa Nichols: back with Jeremie Kubicek, and we're gonna talk about lots more here.
• 24:57
  Lisa Nichols: So, just in a little bit, we'll be right back with Jeremie.
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• 25:31
  Lisa Nichols: Welcome back, everyone, to the Something Extra podcast with my friend,
• 25:35
  Lisa Nichols: Jeremie Kubicek.
• 25:36
  Lisa Nichols: It's been so much fun, Jeremie, talking to you, but we've been talking about
• 25:41
  Lisa Nichols: developing people in our organizations.
• 25:44
  Lisa Nichols: What is that gonna look like in the future?
• 25:46
  Lisa Nichols: We may have a lot of CHROs or leadership development people
• 25:50
  Lisa Nichols: on the that are listening.
• 25:51
  Lisa Nichols: And, I mean, just a leader in general.
• 25:53
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, all of us need to learn what that's gonna look like for
• 25:57
  Lisa Nichols: the future.
• 25:58
  Jeremie Kucicek: I think, everyone's been we hear the clickbait of, like, well, there's
• 26:02
  Jeremie Kucicek: gonna be like, there's no jobs in the future, and you're not gonna have
• 26:05
  Jeremie Kucicek: salaries, and you hear Elon Musk talk about this and that.
• 26:08
  Jeremie Kucicek: I will say the speed,
• 26:11
  Jeremie Kucicek: of change
• 26:13
  Jeremie Kucicek: is dramatic.
• 26:14
  Jeremie Kucicek: And, you know, you're gonna find a lot of it is about efficiency and
• 26:18
  Jeremie Kucicek: how efficient.
• 26:19
  Jeremie Kucicek: And if you've if you've done any AI true work,
• 26:23
  Jeremie Kucicek: like, I build GPTs, and I create these processes, and
• 26:28
  Jeremie Kucicek: it's unbelievable how much I can get done now and how fast.
• 26:32
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yes.
• 26:33
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so, therefore, the speed is, like, something we're gonna have to catch up
• 26:36
  Jeremie Kucicek: to.
• 26:37
  Jeremie Kucicek: But imagine this, like, in the future,
• 26:40
  Jeremie Kucicek: you may be managing,
• 26:44
  Jeremie Kucicek: your team might be three or four chat, you know, agents
• 26:48
  Jeremie Kucicek: and three or four real people.
• 26:50
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so now consider, how do you manage people and agents
• 26:55
  Jeremie Kucicek: that are talking as if they are people and employees?
• 27:00
  Jeremie Kucicek: And getting your mind around that, and that's going to be a thing faster
• 27:04
  Jeremie Kucicek: than we even imagine.
• 27:06
  Jeremie Kucicek: Getting to the point of, like, optimist robot in your world,
• 27:11
  Jeremie Kucicek: walking around your office probably in early twenty seven.
• 27:16
  Jeremie Kucicek: I mean, like, a year from now.
• 27:18
  Jeremie Kucicek: Like, I've already told my wife we're probably going to have, we'll probably have
• 27:22
  Jeremie Kucicek: an Optimus robot at Christmas.
• 27:24
  Jeremie Kucicek: So that would be our Christmas present.
• 27:27
  Lisa Nichols: Oh my goodness.
• 27:27
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so we've already considered, like, okay.
• 27:30
  Jeremie Kucicek: What does it look like?
• 27:30
  Jeremie Kucicek: How's it gonna work?
• 27:31
  Jeremie Kucicek: Is it ready?
• 27:32
  Jeremie Kucicek: And is it this Christmas?
• 27:34
  Jeremie Kucicek: Is it next Christmas?
• 27:35
  Jeremie Kucicek: But my point is within this frame of time,
• 27:39
  Jeremie Kucicek: the present, it's going to be a thing.
• 27:42
  Jeremie Kucicek: And those things are going to be so it's almost like when the
• 27:46
  Jeremie Kucicek: iPhone came out of, like, wow.
• 27:48
  Jeremie Kucicek: That's a look at but on steroids, twenty times that.
• 27:52
  Jeremie Kucicek: Okay.
• 27:52
  Jeremie Kucicek: So if you're a leader, you have to there's a couple of things.
• 27:57
  Jeremie Kucicek: That change is going to create stress significantly.
• 28:01
  Jeremie Kucicek: So by learning the five voices, it gives your it
• 28:05
  Jeremie Kucicek: gives the stress response.
• 28:06
  Jeremie Kucicek: It's predictive stress behavior.
• 28:09
  Jeremie Kucicek: So if you understand a guardian under stress, they're going to start interrogating
• 28:14
  Jeremie Kucicek: because they want answers.
• 28:15
  Jeremie Kucicek: They're trying to figure it out.
• 28:16
  Jeremie Kucicek: Creative under stress, they're going to hulk out or be snarky
• 28:20
  Jeremie Kucicek: and sarcastic a little bit.
• 28:22
  Jeremie Kucicek: The connector, under stress.
• 28:24
  Jeremie Kucicek: They're going to do cyber warfare.
• 28:25
  Jeremie Kucicek: They're gonna slander and be frustrated and talk out loud.
• 28:28
  Jeremie Kucicek: The pioneer, under stress, they're going to blow things up and be a
• 28:32
  Jeremie Kucicek: bulldozer.
• 28:33
  Jeremie Kucicek: The nurturer, under stress, last one, they're gonna withhold care, and they start
• 28:37
  Jeremie Kucicek: abdicating and become a wallflower.
• 28:39
  Jeremie Kucicek: So if you know the dynamics, change produces
• 28:44
  Jeremie Kucicek: stress.
• 28:45
  Jeremie Kucicek: And we're going to be entering into a stressful season
• 28:50
  Jeremie Kucicek: because of the amount of change, the speed of change, and
• 28:54
  Jeremie Kucicek: the direct impact it has on workers.
• 28:57
  Jeremie Kucicek: So, like, ninety percent of workers right now work for other people.
• 29:00
  Jeremie Kucicek: I call them o's.
• 29:02
  Jeremie Kucicek: Their o is they work for other people, and, the bigger
• 29:06
  Jeremie Kucicek: the o, like a director, a VP, a CEO is a bigger
• 29:10
  Jeremie Kucicek: o.
• 29:11
  Jeremie Kucicek: Ten percent of the population I call x's, they work for themselves, and
• 29:15
  Jeremie Kucicek: they might have multiple businesses.
• 29:18
  Jeremie Kucicek: Like, in my case right now, I have nine companies that I'm overseeing,
• 29:22
  Jeremie Kucicek: and that I'm a either owner, founder, whatever of.
• 29:25
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 29:26
  Jeremie Kucicek: So I'm an x.
• 29:28
  Jeremie Kucicek: Well, an x is gonna live different than an o.
• 29:30
  Jeremie Kucicek: Well, it's ninety ten.
• 29:32
  Jeremie Kucicek: But in probably two, three years, it will be sixty forty.
• 29:36
  Jeremie Kucicek: Sixty percent owes.
• 29:38
  Jeremie Kucicek: Thirty percent of those people are gonna be forced to be exes.
• 29:42
  Jeremie Kucicek: So that right there is, like, we have to be prepared for that,
• 29:46
  Jeremie Kucicek: and our world's not our our country's not prepared for it.
• 29:49
  Jeremie Kucicek: People aren't prepared for that.
• 29:51
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 29:51
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 29:51
  Jeremie Kucicek: So it's like learning of how to, to live in that.
• 29:56
  Jeremie Kucicek: So So that's gonna be a big part.
• 29:57
  Jeremie Kucicek: So my point is is that if you're a team leader, if you lead
• 30:01
  Jeremie Kucicek: people, a competitive advantage is learning personality
• 30:06
  Jeremie Kucicek: and leveraging AI.
• 30:07
  Jeremie Kucicek: And putting those together
• 30:09
  Lisa Nichols: Putting them together is gonna be golden.
• 30:12
  Jeremie Kucicek: Is is going to help you help people, but you're gonna have competitive advantage,
• 30:15
  Jeremie Kucicek: and that's gonna help you with your own, opportunities
• 30:19
  Jeremie Kucicek: as well.
• 30:20
  Jeremie Kucicek: Mhmm.
• 30:21
  Lisa Nichols: That's so good.
• 30:22
  Lisa Nichols: And that's what we want.
• 30:24
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, we want people to thrive.
• 30:26
  Lisa Nichols: We want people to flourish.
• 30:27
  Lisa Nichols: We want,
• 30:29
  Lisa Nichols: you know, I mean, there's gonna be all kinds of I mean, talking about,
• 30:32
  Lisa Nichols: like, the speed there.
• 30:33
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, we don't know.
• 30:34
  Lisa Nichols: We're gonna be need to be more empathic.
• 30:36
  Lisa Nichols: We're gonna need to there's so much.
• 30:38
  Lisa Nichols: It's just gonna elevate so much, I think, Jeremie.
• 30:42
  Lisa Nichols: Well, let me ask you this.
• 30:44
  Lisa Nichols: You know, I've you've I mean, how many how many engagements
• 30:48
  Lisa Nichols: have you guys done?
• 30:49
  Lisa Nichols: Do you have an idea of how many clients you've helped over the
• 30:53
  Lisa Nichols: years?
• 30:53
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
• 30:54
  Jeremie Kucicek: I mean, ten thousand plus.
• 30:56
  Jeremie Kucicek: I'd it's gotta be I don't know.
• 30:57
  Jeremie Kucicek: I don't even know if
• 30:58
  Lisa Nichols: it's a lot.
• 31:00
  Lisa Nichols: Can you think of one moment that you've seen when leaders
• 31:04
  Lisa Nichols: experience, when they begin to recognize the different voices on their team
• 31:08
  Lisa Nichols: and and how that makes a difference?
• 31:10
  Lisa Nichols: Have you can you think of an
• 31:12
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
• 31:12
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
• 31:12
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
• 31:13
  Jeremie Kucicek: I've got one.
• 31:13
  Jeremie Kucicek: So one actually comes to mind.
• 31:15
  Jeremie Kucicek: It's actually in college athletics, which is really interesting.
• 31:18
  Jeremie Kucicek: So it's a it's a college football coach and a specific,
• 31:22
  Jeremie Kucicek: coach.
• 31:22
  Jeremie Kucicek: Like, he was a position coach for a top five team.
• 31:26
  Jeremie Kucicek: And we were working with we've worked with him, for a number of years.
• 31:29
  Jeremie Kucicek: But for a number of years, he was like, I am who I am.
• 31:33
  Jeremie Kucicek: My players, you know and he's a guardian, and very
• 31:38
  Jeremie Kucicek: black and white and very if they don't like it, they can go somewhere
• 31:41
  Jeremie Kucicek: else.
• 31:41
  Jeremie Kucicek: That was the well, the transfer portal and
• 31:45
  Jeremie Kucicek: NIL came around, and players can well, they're so fickle now.
• 31:49
  Jeremie Kucicek: They'll leave in one one bad coaching
• 31:53
  Jeremie Kucicek: session, one bad practice, they're out the door.
• 31:57
  Jeremie Kucicek: So
• 31:58
  Jeremie Kucicek: he was forced to go, hey.
• 31:59
  Jeremie Kucicek: Hey.
• 32:00
  Jeremie Kucicek: Hey.
• 32:00
  Jeremie Kucicek: I'm losing.
• 32:01
  Jeremie Kucicek: I can't keep my players because they don't like that style because
• 32:05
  Jeremie Kucicek: he was only connecting to thirty percent of the population that liked him.
• 32:10
  Jeremie Kucicek: Because the seventy over seventy percent, they don't want that.
• 32:13
  Jeremie Kucicek: They don't like that kind of, command and control, old school.
• 32:18
  Jeremie Kucicek: It just doesn't work anymore.
• 32:19
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 32:19
  Lisa Nichols: It doesn't.
• 32:20
  Jeremie Kucicek: So now he's had to, and he's got, like, eleven players in
• 32:24
  Jeremie Kucicek: his position group.
• 32:26
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so now we just analyzed all eleven, and we go,
• 32:30
  Jeremie Kucicek: okay.
• 32:30
  Jeremie Kucicek: So you've got four creatives.
• 32:32
  Jeremie Kucicek: You've got two pioneers.
• 32:34
  Jeremie Kucicek: You've got six nurturers and then the rest are connected.
• 32:38
  Jeremie Kucicek: And that's crazy.
• 32:39
  Jeremie Kucicek: So guardian.
• 32:40
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so then we'll translate for him to go.
• 32:43
  Jeremie Kucicek: Now these two, they're just like you.
• 32:46
  Jeremie Kucicek: Okay?
• 32:46
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
• 32:46
  Lisa Nichols: They like You got that.
• 32:48
  Jeremie Kucicek: But but these others are feelers, and you're gonna lose the feelers if
• 32:52
  Jeremie Kucicek: you don't so you're gonna have to change.
• 32:54
  Jeremie Kucicek: And specifically in your style and these two moments is where
• 32:58
  Jeremie Kucicek: most of the friction came from.
• 33:00
  Jeremie Kucicek: So we're analyzing and helping him now be a voice
• 33:04
  Jeremie Kucicek: driven leader.
• 33:06
  Jeremie Kucicek: So walk him out on their shoes.
• 33:07
  Jeremie Kucicek: No others to lead others.
• 33:09
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so, you know, you know we know the golden rule.
• 33:12
  Jeremie Kucicek: Right?
• 33:12
  Jeremie Kucicek: Do it.
• 33:13
  Jeremie Kucicek: Do it to others as you wanna
• 33:14
  Lisa Nichols: as you would have them doing to you.
• 33:15
  Jeremie Kucicek: But but a lot of that gets taken out of context.
• 33:18
  Jeremie Kucicek: Well, I don't need a hug.
• 33:19
  Jeremie Kucicek: Why should you get a hug?
• 33:20
  Jeremie Kucicek: Why should you need it?
• 33:21
  Jeremie Kucicek: I didn't get training.
• 33:23
  Jeremie Kucicek: Why do why do you need it?
• 33:24
  Jeremie Kucicek: And that's Mhmm.
• 33:25
  Jeremie Kucicek: The platinum rule is actually the golden rule.
• 33:27
  Jeremie Kucicek: Do you want to others as they would want done?
• 33:30
  Jeremie Kucicek: So that's ultimately the golden rule.
• 33:33
  Jeremie Kucicek: So you're like, okay.
• 33:34
  Jeremie Kucicek: So now that's the voice driven leader.
• 33:37
  Jeremie Kucicek: Think about them.
• 33:38
  Jeremie Kucicek: Who are they?
• 33:39
  Jeremie Kucicek: Where are they?
• 33:40
  Jeremie Kucicek: Where do you want to lead them?
• 33:41
  Jeremie Kucicek: And get really smart and start leading them not
• 33:46
  Jeremie Kucicek: manipulation.
• 33:47
  Jeremie Kucicek: It's called it's called intentional,
• 33:51
  Jeremie Kucicek: acumen, and it's smart.
• 33:53
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so it's a competitive advantage because in our AI
• 33:57
  Jeremie Kucicek: world, we're still going to have people, and there's still going to be influence.
• 34:01
  Jeremie Kucicek: Right.
• 34:02
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so the most influential people are those that are the most intentional
• 34:07
  Jeremie Kucicek: with other people.
• 34:09
  Lisa Nichols: Let me ask you this as you were talking about and specifically this coach,
• 34:12
  Lisa Nichols: and I'm not saying he's old.
• 34:14
  Lisa Nichols: I'm not saying that I don't know how old he is.
• 34:16
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
• 34:17
  Lisa Nichols: But, I mean, how because people that takes
• 34:22
  Lisa Nichols: really, I'm thinking he's got two people like him, and he's got all these
• 34:25
  Lisa Nichols: other players that are not like him.
• 34:28
  Lisa Nichols: You know, I'm just thinking, the adage keeps coming to me.
• 34:31
  Lisa Nichols: How do you teach an old dog new tricks?
• 34:33
  Lisa Nichols: You know, kind of thing.
• 34:34
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, it's hard work, r ight, Jeremie?
• 34:36
  Lisa Nichols: I mean And and that is
• 34:38
  Jeremie Kucicek: a benefit of AI.
• 34:39
  Jeremie Kucicek: Because Yeah.
• 34:40
  Jeremie Kucicek: The reason in the past, you're like, oh, I gotta go get trained.
• 34:43
  Jeremie Kucicek: I've gotta go do all this and that.
• 34:45
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 34:46
  Jeremie Kucicek: Well, actually, now I'm like The tool.
• 34:49
  Jeremie Kucicek: How do I help my connector,
• 34:53
  Jeremie Kucicek: player?
• 34:53
  Jeremie Kucicek: How do I help him understand this concept?
• 34:57
  Jeremie Kucicek: It now spits it out.
• 34:58
  Jeremie Kucicek: Oh, well, remember, you're a guardian.
• 35:00
  Jeremie Kucicek: He's a connector.
• 35:02
  Jeremie Kucicek: His tendency is gonna wanna have a lot more fun than you are.
• 35:05
  Jeremie Kucicek: So you're it tells you.
• 35:08
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 35:09
  Jeremie Kucicek: So now teaching old dogs new tricks, there's actually
• 35:13
  Jeremie Kucicek: some hacks.
• 35:14
  Lisa Nichols: There's some hacks and there's some help out there.
• 35:16
  Jeremie Kucicek: Mhmm.
• 35:16
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, you know, Jeremie is so funny.
• 35:19
  Lisa Nichols: You and Greg are cut from the same path in so many ways because
• 35:22
  Lisa Nichols: Greg, you know, he's so happy that the AI winter is over and
• 35:26
  Lisa Nichols: he's just he's loving life right now.
• 35:28
  Lisa Nichols: But he's like, it's become a friend.
• 35:31
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
• 35:31
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, it's become an adviser to him.
• 35:34
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, you know, I mean, obviously, you have to to check and
• 35:38
  Lisa Nichols: no.
• 35:38
  Lisa Nichols: It sometimes it can still hallucinate and that sort of thing.
• 35:41
  Lisa Nichols: But it's just incredible.
• 35:43
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, I'm just blown away by,
• 35:47
  Lisa Nichols: the power of it.
• 35:48
  Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
• 35:49
  Lisa Nichols: Yep.
• 35:50
  Lisa Nichols: So I all I'm saying is, listeners, if you haven't
• 35:54
  Lisa Nichols: gone on the bandwagon, you need to.
• 35:56
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 35:57
  Lisa Nichols: Because you just are not gonna be able to keep up without, embracing
• 36:01
  Lisa Nichols: it.
• 36:01
  Lisa Nichols: So well, let me ask you this.
• 36:06
  Lisa Nichols: You know, and I know that this is huge.
• 36:09
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, what role does emotional intelligence play
• 36:13
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
• 36:13
  Jeremie Kucicek: So
• 36:13
  Lisa Nichols: in being a voice driven leader.
• 36:15
  Jeremie Kucicek: Well, now you have to add emotional intelligence with AI.
• 36:19
  Jeremie Kucicek: You have to add discernment.
• 36:20
  Jeremie Kucicek: Right?
• 36:21
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so discernment is like, okay.
• 36:23
  Jeremie Kucicek: Do I really believe this?
• 36:24
  Jeremie Kucicek: Is it you're you're not just I don't just look at AI and go.
• 36:27
  Jeremie Kucicek: I do exactly what it tells me to do.
• 36:30
  Jeremie Kucicek: Mhmm.
• 36:30
  Jeremie Kucicek: It's a it's a tool to give me insights I might not have thought
• 36:33
  Jeremie Kucicek: of before.
• 36:34
  Jeremie Kucicek: So emotional intelligence is willingness to understand
• 36:38
  Jeremie Kucicek: other people.
• 36:39
  Jeremie Kucicek: So emotional intelligence means it's relational intelligence,
• 36:43
  Jeremie Kucicek: really.
• 36:44
  Jeremie Kucicek: It's like, do I understand what it's like to be on the other side
• 36:48
  Jeremie Kucicek: of me, and am I willing to change?
• 36:50
  Jeremie Kucicek: Am I do I understand who they are, and am I willing to adapt?
• 36:55
  Jeremie Kucicek: That's the whole if I'm not willing to adapt and I don't care what
• 36:59
  Jeremie Kucicek: I then I'm not relationally intelligent, and therefore, I'm not emotionally intelligent.
• 37:03
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so that's ultimately what this game is.
• 37:06
  Jeremie Kucicek: The game is, are you are you open?
• 37:10
  Jeremie Kucicek: So, like, I had, I had a coach.
• 37:12
  Jeremie Kucicek: This is so funny.
• 37:13
  Jeremie Kucicek: I had this coach, and I I said to him, I'll just say his
• 37:16
  Jeremie Kucicek: name's Brian.
• 37:17
  Jeremie Kucicek: I go, Brian, I've never seen you not
• 37:21
  Jeremie Kucicek: wear a hat backwards.
• 37:23
  Jeremie Kucicek: Like, every Zoom call, every time I've ever met him.
• 37:27
  Jeremie Kucicek: So I'm like, I'm assuming that's who you are with your clients.
• 37:30
  Jeremie Kucicek: Are they okay with that?
• 37:32
  Jeremie Kucicek: And he's like, oh, yeah.
• 37:32
  Jeremie Kucicek: I don't do it with clients.
• 37:34
  Jeremie Kucicek: And I'm like, okay.
• 37:35
  Jeremie Kucicek: But do you realize that that we,
• 37:39
  Jeremie Kucicek: bring leads to lots of our coaches, and I'm not gonna be bringing a
• 37:43
  Jeremie Kucicek: lot of leads to you because that's how I think you are.
• 37:47
  Jeremie Kucicek: Every single time I've seen you, are you aware of that?
• 37:50
  Jeremie Kucicek: Do you know what I mean?
• 37:52
  Jeremie Kucicek: And it's like a little Yeah.
• 37:53
  Jeremie Kucicek: Little influence.
• 37:54
  Jeremie Kucicek: It's a minor thing, but it's a little big thing.
• 37:57
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 37:58
  Lisa Nichols: But
• 37:58
  Jeremie Kucicek: it's affecting your ability to earn more
• 38:02
  Jeremie Kucicek: opportunities.
• 38:03
  Jeremie Kucicek: Mhmm.
• 38:04
  Jeremie Kucicek: Because as you're showing up, I'm thinking you're not serious.
• 38:08
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 38:09
  Jeremie Kucicek: Or you're No.
• 38:09
  Jeremie Kucicek: You're not really wanting to
• 38:11
  Lisa Nichols: Oh, did he stop wearing his hat?
• 38:12
  Jeremie Kucicek: Well, this this just recently happened.
• 38:14
  Jeremie Kucicek: We'll see.
• 38:14
  Lisa Nichols: To refill it.
• 38:16
  Lisa Nichols: You have to get on a Zoom call with him soon and see.
• 38:20
  Lisa Nichols: Oh, yeah.
• 38:21
  Lisa Nichols: That's so good, though.
• 38:23
  Lisa Nichols: Well, I'll ask you this, and then we're gonna talk about something extra.
• 38:27
  Lisa Nichols: Do you have a leadership lesson, that you've learned?
• 38:30
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, you're you're running giant.
• 38:32
  Lisa Nichols: We've already said tens of thousands of clients, five hundred coaches,
• 38:36
  Lisa Nichols: five hundred plus coaches.
• 38:38
  Lisa Nichols: Is there a lesson that you've learned, Jeremie, the hard way?
• 38:42
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
• 38:42
  Jeremie Kucicek: Totally.
• 38:43
  Jeremie Kucicek: I I had, like, ten things flood me.
• 38:45
  Jeremie Kucicek: Number one, the the thing that what probably this last year was,
• 38:50
  Jeremie Kucicek: managing expectations,
• 38:53
  Jeremie Kucicek: really, really well.
• 38:54
  Jeremie Kucicek: And, as a connector, I'm such an optimist that I can
• 38:58
  Jeremie Kucicek: sometimes over expect.
• 39:01
  Jeremie Kucicek: Right.
• 39:02
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so I had to do some really deep dive.
• 39:05
  Jeremie Kucicek: In fact, I have, in a few hours, a meeting with, I have a
• 39:09
  Jeremie Kucicek: little forum I put together of just a few guys.
• 39:13
  Jeremie Kucicek: Kinda trusted Yeah.
• 39:14
  Lisa Nichols: Kind of a trusted group, mastermind group.
• 39:16
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
• 39:16
  Jeremie Kucicek: Just but it's not too big.
• 39:18
  Jeremie Kucicek: I mean, I'm I'm in YPO.
• 39:19
  Jeremie Kucicek: I'm in lots of things, but this is like they know me, know me.
• 39:22
  Jeremie Kucicek: And, and so I'm meeting with this group to really go through
• 39:26
  Jeremie Kucicek: my expectations for twenty twenty six and go, are these realistic?
• 39:30
  Jeremie Kucicek: Are they on because I continue to do try too much in a year.
• 39:34
  Jeremie Kucicek: Mhmm.
• 39:35
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so,
• 39:37
  Jeremie Kucicek: that was probably an a thing I was reminded of this year is managing
• 39:41
  Jeremie Kucicek: expectations,
• 39:43
  Jeremie Kucicek: makes everything better.
• 39:46
  Jeremie Kucicek: And so when you when you have too high of expectations and or you
• 39:50
  Jeremie Kucicek: don't manage them appropriately or you can create bitterness and
• 39:54
  Jeremie Kucicek: frustration.
• 39:55
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 39:55
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 39:56
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 39:57
  Lisa Nichols: Very good.
• 39:58
  Lisa Nichols: Well, let's talk about something extra.
• 39:59
  Jeremie Kucicek: Yes.
• 40:00
  Lisa Nichols: So in twenty twenty four, when you were on the the podcast,
• 40:05
  Lisa Nichols: again, listeners, episode two seventy one, go back and listen to it.
• 40:08
  Lisa Nichols: It's so good.
• 40:09
  Lisa Nichols: It's also Jeremie's story is also in the something extra book,
• 40:13
  Lisa Nichols: by the way, and I've had so many people tell me they love love
• 40:17
  Lisa Nichols: to read that story.
• 40:19
  Lisa Nichols: But, here's what you said.
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  Lisa Nichols: You said when I asked you, what is the something extra every leader needs,
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  Lisa Nichols: Jeremie?
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  Lisa Nichols: You said leaders need to do the work on knowing who they really are,
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  Lisa Nichols: knowing what their identity is.
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  Lisa Nichols: When you understand your superpowers, you can then show up and bring
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  Lisa Nichols: a life to other people.
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  Lisa Nichols: So now we're in twenty twenty six.
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  Lisa Nichols: Jeremie, is there anything you would add to that?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Yeah.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So it's vital, that you lead yourself.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: You can't give what you don't possess.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Right?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So you have to lead yourself.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So the the way that I would encourage you, because our minds can trick
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  Jeremie Kucicek: ourselves.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: In the mornings, I would encourage you to do a call up session.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Every single morning, I do this.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: I did it this morning.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: I call myself into the role and my authority into
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  Jeremie Kucicek: who I am, my identity.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And by doing that, I just remind myself who I
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  Jeremie Kucicek: am versus calling yourself out.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And I I've coached so many executives that,
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  Jeremie Kucicek: there's this negative voice that gets allowed in.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Like, you're an idiot.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Why do you do that?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Stop.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: You you did it again.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Like, that negative voice, it literally has to be squashed.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: It has to be, like, eradicated.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: You have to eradicate negativity.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So learning to call yourself up, not out, is a
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  Jeremie Kucicek: secret of high performing leaders.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So then as you call yourself up now I I do it from a
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  Jeremie Kucicek: faith perspective sometimes.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Right.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And sometimes it's it's from a faith perspective.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Sometimes it's not.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Sometimes Right.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: But, like, this morning, it was like, hey, dude.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: You're a sign of the most high god.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Let's go.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: You're a liberator.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: You're a freedom fighter.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: You let's go.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Step in today.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: You and it was like there was no room for negativity.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: There was no room for any wallowing or any you know?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And so I was engaged.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: So then when I'm literally out of the shower, I am like, let's go.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: I'm in.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: I'm you know?
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  Jeremie Kucicek: And and so
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  Lisa Nichols: so good.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Calling yourself up is, is a art and a science,
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  Jeremie Kucicek: and eliminating any judgment that
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  Jeremie Kucicek: is just not, is not helpful.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: That's good.
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  Lisa Nichols: That's good.
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  Lisa Nichols: So call yourself up every morning.
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  Lisa Nichols: You know?
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  Lisa Nichols: Not calling yourself out.
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  Lisa Nichols: That is so good.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, Jeremie, I absolutely love every time that I'm
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  Lisa Nichols: in your presence.
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  Lisa Nichols: So thank you so much for making the time to be on the show
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  Lisa Nichols: today.
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  Lisa Nichols: Appreciate you.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Great to be with you.
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  Jeremie Kucicek: Cheers.
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