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He Gave Her Trust-Then Drained Her Life: The Mailbox Clue · Narcisist Psychology

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  Speaker 1: At nine fifteen. On a Tuesday morning in May of
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  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, a fifteen year old girl on her newspaper
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  Speaker 1: route stopped at the mailbox on Weller Road and found
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  Speaker 1: a surgical drain standing upright inside it. The bulb was
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  Speaker 1: partially compressed, the residue coating the tubing was the color
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  Speaker 1: of rust, dark and dry. She recognized what it was
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  Speaker 1: because her mother had worn one after surgery the previous year.
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  Speaker 1: She did not touch it. She called her mother, and
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  Speaker 1: her mother called the police. That object should not have
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  Speaker 1: been there, and the woman who lived inside that house
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  Speaker 1: was not answering her door. What investigators would uncover over
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  Speaker 1: the following weeks was not a break in, not a
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  Speaker 1: stranger and not a sudden crisis. It was something slower
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  Speaker 1: and more deliberate. A licensed physician had spent nearly three
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  Speaker 1: years methodically dismantling one woman's ability to trust herself. By
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  Speaker 1: the time that drane appeared in the mailbox, Lauren Hunt
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  Speaker 1: had signed over two hundred and thirty one thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: withdrawn from almost every relationship she had and lost the
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  Speaker 1: capacity to recognize what was happening to her as harm.
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  Speaker 1: This is a case about coercive control inside a medical relationship,
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  Speaker 1: about how a person in a position of institutional trust
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  Speaker 1: used that trust carefully and incrementally to hollow out another
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  Speaker 1: person's reality, and about the one detail that cracked it opened.
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  Speaker 1: Lauren Hunt was fifty four years old when she was found.
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  Speaker 1: She had lived at four twelve Weller Road for eleven years,
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  Speaker 1: and neighbors described her as someone who kept her hedges
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  Speaker 1: trimmed and waved when she saw you. She had worked
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  Speaker 1: in hospital administration for over two decades before a back
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  Speaker 1: injury in the spring of twenty fifteen forced her into
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  Speaker 1: early retirement. The injury left her within chronic pain that
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  Speaker 1: did not resolve cleanly. After a legal settlement, she had
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  Speaker 1: financial stability, but the life she had built around her
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  Speaker 1: work was gone. She was rebuilding. Her daughter, Kim Soddo,
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  Speaker 1: lived about forty minutes away. They spoke several times a week.
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  Speaker 1: Kim later told investigators that her mother had been cautious
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  Speaker 1: about medical care after the accident, skeptical of unnecessary procedures.
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  Speaker 1: She had always been the one who read the fine print.
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  Speaker 1: Lauren's tuesdays had a shape to them. For six years,
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  Speaker 1: she had held an unspoken reservation at Patrice's Diner on
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  Speaker 1: Dunmore Avenue, the corner booth the same order every time.
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  Speaker 1: Waitress Bev Pulowski had never needed to ask. When Lauren
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  Speaker 1: did not appear the Tuesday before the drain was found,
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  Speaker 1: Bev noticed it was the first absence she could remember
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  Speaker 1: in all that time. That detail mattered more than it seemed.
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  Speaker 1: It was the kind of routine that anger as a life,
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  Speaker 1: the kind that reveals when it breaks that something has broken. First.
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  Speaker 1: Thomas Coleman was fifty one years old and had held
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  Speaker 1: his state medical license for nine years when he first
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  Speaker 1: met Lauren. His clinic, the Lakeview Esthetic Center, operated out
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  Speaker 1: of a converted building on the West Side. His record
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  Speaker 1: carried no formal disciplinary actions. He was on paper exactly
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  Speaker 1: what he appeared to be, a plastic and reconstructive surgeon
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  Speaker 1: with a clean history. Lauren's first appointment was in September
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  Speaker 1: of twenty sixteen. The referral was straightforward. She had a
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  Speaker 1: scar on her clavicle from the accident and she wanted
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  Speaker 1: to know her options. Coleman was attentive. He remembered details.
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  Speaker 1: He called after the procedure to check on her recovery.
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  Speaker 1: That phone call was not unusual what followed. It was.
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  Speaker 1: According to doctor Sharon Graham, the forensic psychologist who later
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  Speaker 1: consulted for the prosecution, Coleman's a roach during this early
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  Speaker 1: period fits a documented pattern she called love bombing within
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  Speaker 1: a clinical context. It was not romantic, it was relational.
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  Speaker 1: He made Lauren feel seen in a setting where patients
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  Speaker 1: are typically reduced to a chart and a consent for
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  Speaker 1: he sent a handwritten card three weeks after the first procedure.
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  Speaker 1: That card was later admitted as evidence. By the end
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  Speaker 1: of twenty seventeen, Lauren had undergone four procedures in fourteen months.
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  Speaker 1: Each one had been preceded by a new concern, a
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  Speaker 1: finding Coleman introduced at the follow up appointment that required
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  Speaker 1: attention before the healing was truly complete. Doctor Graham described
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  Speaker 1: this mechanism at trial as manufactured in security, the deliberate
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  Speaker 1: introduction of doubt about the body's current state to justify
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  Speaker 1: further intervention. The patient never fully arrived at Dunn. There
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  Speaker 1: was always one more thing to address. The financial architecture
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  Speaker 1: came later, but the psychological arche texture came first. By
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  Speaker 1: the time Laurence signed anything, she had already spent over
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  Speaker 1: a year learning to defer to Coleman's assessment what she needed.
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  Speaker 1: The paperwork felt like a formality. She had already handed
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  Speaker 1: him something far harder to recover than money. In the
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  Speaker 1: spring of two thousand eighteen, Lauren Hunt signed a document
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  Speaker 1: called the Comprehensive Esthetic Continuity Plan. The name sounded clinical,
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  Speaker 1: almost administrative. What it actually did was transfer control of
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  Speaker 1: her settlement funds into an account with Thomas Coleman as
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  Speaker 1: the sole administrator. She signed it after seventeen months of procedures,
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  Speaker 1: after seventeen months of phone calls and handwritten notes and
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  Speaker 1: new concerns introduced at the right moment. By the time
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  Speaker 1: the paperwork arrived, the paperwork was the least of what
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  Speaker 1: she had already given. Between the spring of twenty eighteen
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  Speaker 1: and June of twenty nineteen, two hundred thirty one thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars moved out of Lauren's account. The transfer were incremental,
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  Speaker 1: some were large enough to notice, some were not. According
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  Speaker 1: to financial records entered at trial, the pace accelerated in
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  Speaker 1: the final months, as if the architecture that had taken
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  Speaker 1: two years to build was now operating at full efficiency.
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  Speaker 1: But here is the thing about that number. The money
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  Speaker 1: was recoverable, at least in part. What investigators and forensic
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  Speaker 1: consultants found far harder to document was the second extraction,
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  Speaker 1: the one that left no wire transfer record. Doctor Sharon
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  Speaker 1: Graham testified that by Procedure five, Coleman had introduced what
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  Speaker 1: she described as isolation by proxy. He did not tell
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  Speaker 1: Lauren to cut off her daughter. He told her to
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  Speaker 1: reduce her obligations. He framed distance as recovery. After that appointment,
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  Speaker 1: Lauren quietly withdrew from her reading group and began declining
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  Speaker 1: Kim Sadow's invitations. Kim lived forty minutes away and had
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  Speaker 1: been calling several times a week. The call continued, Lauren
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  Speaker 1: began letting them go to voicemail. She had a reason
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  Speaker 1: for each one. Each reason came from Coleman. The man
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  Speaker 1: in the HVAC shirt appeared some time after that fifth procedure.
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  Speaker 1: A neighbor, Vico Kaefort, later told investigators he had seen
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  Speaker 1: a man in a company branded shirt entering and leaving
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  Speaker 1: Laurence house on multiple occasions over more than a year.
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  Speaker 1: O Kafoor assumed it was routine maintenance. He had no
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  Speaker 1: reason not to, except that when investigators checked every licensed
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  Speaker 1: HVIC service within the county. Not one record showed a
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  Speaker 1: scheduled visit to four hundred twelve while it road not one.
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  Speaker 1: The shirt had a logo. The company did not have
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  Speaker 1: a contract. Coleman had been walking into her home for
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  Speaker 1: over a year wearing a costume. The procedures continued. By
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  Speaker 1: early May of twenty nineteen, Lauren had undergone seventeen of them.
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  Speaker 1: Procedure seventeen was completed three days before Lori Carter found
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  Speaker 1: the drain in the mailbox. Coleman had instructed Louren to
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  Speaker 1: keep it in place for forty eight hours and then
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  Speaker 1: discard it. What the evidence suggests is that Lauren, still recovering,
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  Speaker 1: disoriented and alone, placed it in the mailbox rather than
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  Speaker 1: the trash, not as a signal, not as a cry
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  Speaker 1: for help, simply because the line between inside and outside,
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  Speaker 1: between correct and incorrect had become very difficult to locate.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Petre Nussu, who examined the drain at the request
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  Speaker 1: of the investigating officers, identified the brand as a model
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  Speaker 1: discontinued in twenty sixteen. It had appeared in Lakeview's inventory
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  Speaker 1: during a twoenty seventeen rotation. It was not a hospital drain.
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  Speaker 1: It came from Coleman's clinic. That single object bulb, partially
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  Speaker 1: compressed dark residue dried to rust connected the woman who
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  Speaker 1: would not answer her door to the surgeon, whose name
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  Speaker 1: At that point no officer had yet spoken aloud. For
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  Speaker 1: the first several hours after Officer Dennis Rourke photographed the
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  Speaker 1: mailbox on the morning of May fourteenth, the working assumption
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  Speaker 1: was medagorne. Someone had recently had a procedure, the drain
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  Speaker 1: had been discarded carelessly, or perhaps left by a home
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  Speaker 1: health aid. Lauren was not answering the door. That was concerning,
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  Speaker 1: but not yet alarming. What changed the frame was a
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  Speaker 1: phone call to Patrice's Diner on Dunmore Avenue. It came
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  Speaker 1: from Kim Satom, not from the police. Kim had been
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  Speaker 1: trying to reach her mother since the previous evening. When
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  Speaker 1: she could not get an answer, she called the diner,
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  Speaker 1: the one place she knew her mother would have been
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  Speaker 1: on a Tuesday. Bev Polowski, the waitress who had taken
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  Speaker 1: Lauren's order in the same corner booth for six years,
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  Speaker 1: told Kim that Louren had not come in, not the
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  Speaker 1: twoth day before, not once in recent memory had Lauren
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  Speaker 1: missed that booth. Bev said she had assumed Lauren was traveling.
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  Speaker 1: Kim Sato called the police at nine forty seven in
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  Speaker 1: the morning. She was forty minutes away and already in
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  Speaker 1: her car. When officers entered the house, they found Lauren
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  Speaker 1: in her bedroom. She was conscious, She was physically uninjured.
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  Speaker 1: She had not eaten in more than a day. She was,
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  Speaker 1: according to the incident report, disoriented, not in the way
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  Speaker 1: of someone who had fallen or taken the wrong medication,
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  Speaker 1: but in the way of someone who had lost track
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  Speaker 1: of ordinary time. She did not know at first what
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  Speaker 1: day it was. She was not certain, she said, whether
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  Speaker 1: she was supposed to go somewhere. The disorientation was the
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  Speaker 1: detail that stopped the investigators. A woman who had for
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  Speaker 1: six years kept a standing Tuesday reservation with the precision
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  Speaker 1: of a ritual. That same woman did not know whether
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  Speaker 1: she had somewhere to be. There is something specific about
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  Speaker 1: that detail that resists easy explanation. It is not the
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  Speaker 1: symptom of a single bad appointment. It is the residue
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  Speaker 1: of a system that had been running quietly and precisely
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  Speaker 1: for nearly three years. Coleman was arrested on June second,
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  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. He had continued to schedule appointments at Lakeview
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  Speaker 1: Esthetics Center in the weeks between Lauren's hospitalization and his arrest.
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  Speaker 1: His calendar for the following month was full. The prosecution
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  Speaker 1: built its case around a straightforward argument Coleman had manufactured dependency,
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  Speaker 1: extracted funds through a fraudulent financial instrument, and used controlled
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  Speaker 1: access to Lauren's home and mind to sustain that extraction
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  Speaker 1: for years. The evidence supported it, The financial records supported it,
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  Speaker 1: The drain traced back to lake View's own inventory supported it.
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  Speaker 1: But one detail kept pulling in the wrong direction, and
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  Speaker 1: it is worth sitting with it before the verdict makes
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  Speaker 1: everything feel inevitable. Picture the investigators, in the weeks before
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  Speaker 1: Coleman's arrest, reviewing the HVAC visits vic okafor had described
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  Speaker 1: the natural assumption was that Coleman had been entering Lauren's
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  Speaker 1: home to monitor, or possibly to administer medications or procedures
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  Speaker 1: outside the clinic's record keeping. That assumption led investigators toward
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  Speaker 1: a second set of charges, entirely ones involving unlicensed medical
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  Speaker 1: practice in a residential setting. They built toward it. They
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  Speaker 1: expected to find evidence of it. They did not find it.
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  Speaker 1: What they found, after subpoenas to every medical supplier in
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  Speaker 1: the county, was no evidence of any procedure performed inside
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  Speaker 1: four hundred twelve Weller Road. No supplies, no disposal records,
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  Speaker 1: no secondary instruments. The HVAC visits, which had seemed to
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  Speaker 1: confirm the darkest version of what Coleman was doing, turned
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  Speaker 1: out to confirm something different. That he was simply there, present,
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  Speaker 1: regular part of the furniture of Lauren's daily life, wearing
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  Speaker 1: a logo that asked no questions. The unlicensed home procreasture
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  Speaker 1: theory collapsed, and the theory that replaced it was quieter
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  Speaker 1: and in some ways more disturbing. Coleman had not needed
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  Speaker 1: to do anything clinical during those visits. The visits themselves
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  Speaker 1: were the intervention. Every time he appeared at that door
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  Speaker 1: in that shirt, he reinforced the message that he was essential,
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  Speaker 1: that he belonged there, that the world he had built
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  Speaker 1: around Lauren was the real world. Troy Winslow, Coleman's cellmate
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  Speaker 1: at Alderman County, in the weeks after the arrest, wrote
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  Speaker 1: down what Coleman said during their first week together. The
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  Speaker 1: notes were authenticated and admitted. At trial, Coleman described his
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  Speaker 1: approach to patients with what Winslow characterized as a didactic tone,
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  Speaker 1: as though explaining a professional methodology. The line that appeared
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  Speaker 1: in Winslow's notes and later in the prosecution's closing argument
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  Speaker 1: was this, The key is always the first procedure if
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  Speaker 1: you get the patient to trust the scalpel, once you
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  Speaker 1: give them a reason to believe that every recommendation that
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  Speaker 1: follows comes from experience, not from design. Coleman said that
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  Speaker 1: about Lauren in a jail cell a week after her hospitalization.
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  Speaker 1: Paula Kessler had heard a version of that methodology a
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  Speaker 1: decade earlier. Forty eight years old. At the time of
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  Speaker 1: the investigation, Kessler had undergone eleven procedures at Lakeview between
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  Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen and two thousand fifteen. The pattern was identical,
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  Speaker 1: manufactured concerns and follow up appointments, gradual social withdrawal, a
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  Speaker 1: prepaid account that funneled approximately ninety thousand dollars to Coleman
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  Speaker 1: before her sister intervened and helped her leave. Kessler filed
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  Speaker 1: a civil complaint in two thousand sixteen. It was resolved
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  Speaker 1: under a non disclosure agreement with attorney Robert Schinn representing her.
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  Speaker 1: The settlement was civil, it was not criminal. Coleman kept
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  Speaker 1: his license. Lauren Hunt was not the second woman Thomas
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  Speaker 1: Coleman had dismantled. She was, by the record, at least
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  Speaker 1: the second. The first had been silenced by a signature.
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  Speaker 1: Coleman was arrested on the second of June two thousand nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: By September of that year, he had confessed. Then he
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  Speaker 1: went to trial. Anyway, that detail matters. A man who
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  Speaker 1: had spent three years methodically dismantling another person's sense of
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  Speaker 1: reality chose, even after confessing, to force the legal system
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  Speaker 1: to prove what he had already admitted. The jury returned
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  Speaker 1: a guilty verdict on six counts, three felony charges of
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  Speaker 1: elder financial abuse, two counts of fraud, and one count
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  Speaker 1: of practicing with an unregistered financial product. The comprehensive esthetic
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  Speaker 1: continuity plan that Lauren had signed in the spring of
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  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen had never existed as a legitimate financial instrument.
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  Speaker 1: It was a fabrication. The judge sentenced Coleman to fourteen years.
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  Speaker 1: Lauren was found on the morning of the fourteenth of
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  Speaker 1: May two thousand, nineteen, physically uninjured but disoriented. She had
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  Speaker 1: not eaten in more than a day. She was hospitalized
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  Speaker 1: and then enrolled in an outpatient recovery program that lasted
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  Speaker 1: eight months. Sharon Graham, the forensic psychologist who had consulted
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  Speaker 1: for the prosecution, continued working with Lauren in a clinical
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  Speaker 1: capacity after the trial ended. Graham had testified that coercive
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  Speaker 1: control does not dissolve the moment the controlling person is removed.
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  Speaker 1: The architecture of it persists, the beliefs it planted, the
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  Speaker 1: reflexes it trained, the distrust of one's own judgment. Those
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  Speaker 1: are not undone by an arrest or a verdict. They
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  Speaker 1: have to be rebuilt slowly from the inside. Paula Kessler's
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  Speaker 1: name entered the public record during the investigation, identified as
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  Speaker 1: a prior victim before Coleman's arrest. The non disclosure agreement
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  Speaker 1: she had signed in twenty sixteen did not prevent investigators
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  Speaker 1: from identifying the pattern. It had, however, prevented any earlier
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  Speaker 1: criminal referral. Attorney Robert Schinn had represented her in a
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  Speaker 1: civil complaint that was resolved quietly for approximately ninety thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars with no public findings and no license consequences for Coleman.
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  Speaker 1: The settlement that was meant to protect Kessler also protected
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  Speaker 1: Coleman's ability to continue practicing. Lauren Hunt's case began two
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  Speaker 1: months after that civil resolution closed. What the record shows
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  Speaker 1: is a man who had a methodology. He had used
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  Speaker 1: it before, he had been paid to stay quiet about it,
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  Speaker 1: and then he had used it again, more extensively on
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  Speaker 1: a woman who had no reason to know any of
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  Speaker 1: that existed. There is something specific about this case that
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  Speaker 1: does not settle easily. It is not the money, though
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  Speaker 1: two hundred thirty one thousand dollars is not a number
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  Speaker 1: that passes without weight. It is not the procedures, seventeen
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  Speaker 1: of them over roughly two and a half years, each
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  Speaker 1: one justified by a concern the previous visit had manufactured.
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  Speaker 1: What does not settle is the granularity of it. Coleman
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  Speaker 1: knew that Lauren had a booth at Patrice's diner every Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: He knew which invitations she had stopped accepting. He knew
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  Speaker 1: how to stand at her door in an HVAC shirt
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  Speaker 1: and be believed. That level of knowledge requires sustained attention.
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  Speaker 1: It requires the target to have trusted you enough to
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  Speaker 1: give it to you. He built the house using materials
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  Speaker 1: she handed him. Graham's clinical summary, entered into the trial record,
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  Speaker 1: described the end point of the process with precision. The
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  Speaker 1: goal of coercive control is not compliance. It is the
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  Speaker 1: erosion of the target's belief in their own perception. When
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  Speaker 1: that erosion is complete, the person does not need need
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  Speaker 1: to be confined. They confine themselves. Lauren Hunt had not
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  Speaker 1: been locked in a room. She had been persuaded incrementally
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  Speaker 1: and methodically that the room was the safest place she
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  Speaker 1: could be. The legal system named what Coleman did three
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  Speaker 1: felony counts of elder financial abuse, two counts of fraud,
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  Speaker 1: one count selling a financial product that did not exist
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  Speaker 1: fourteen years. Those words carry legal weight. What they do
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  Speaker 1: not fully carry is what it takes to sit in
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  Speaker 1: a diner booth every Tuesday for six years and then
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  Speaker 1: stop and not know why, and not notice that you
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  Speaker 1: have stopped noticing. Recovery, according to Graham, is not the
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  Speaker 1: reversal of that process. It is something slower and more specific.
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  Speaker 1: It is the reconstruction of trust in one's own perception,
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  Speaker 1: one decision at a time. In February of twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 1: Lauren Hunt walked into Patrese's Diner on Dunmore Avenue. She
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  Speaker 1: sat down in the corner booth. She ordered her usual.
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  Speaker 1: That image appears nowhere in the official case file. It
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  Speaker 1: is part of the record only because someone thought to
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  Speaker 1: write it down. Some evidence is not forensic. Some evidence
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  Speaker 1: is just a woman returning to a Tuesday. This show
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