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- Slim Pushins: Now do I start now? Right now. What's up everybody? Jim Gardner: boy. Slim Pushins: Welcome to another exciting episode of Shop Beers. as always, my co host, the number one customer for Vidal Sassoon nationwide, Corby Scherb. And the man on the dials who's got very lackluckless lackluster taste in NFL teams, Jimmy James Gardner. Jim Gardner: Yeah, we we still ride Corby: That's that's a good looking shirt you got on though. Jim Gardner: we still ride for for my squad, even though we've dropped the last two. So I mean yeah. I and speaking of this shirt, same thing. You know, how many times did Corby just hammer an infield tractor tire wearing his shirt? I still gotta wear it. He's still my guy. So Bengals underperformed for two weeks. We're not just gonna give up on him. So Corby: It's crazy man, like fantasy like Burrow like blows the doors off on points and he can't score a touchdown or get McPherson, like he gets McPherson in field goal range and he's like, you know what? Hey, look, you look bored on defense. Yeah, okay, here. Jim Gardner: I hate I hate fantasy football for that reason alone. Corby: So it it was bad, man. Like I I hate football all over again. Slim Pushins: It ruined Corby's weekend. Total week. He was just Debbie Downer. Corby: Like I I Jim Gardner: Ha ha Corby: never really liked it, but I hate it all over again. No. Slim Pushins: His whole weekend. He was glued to his phone. What'd you do this weekend, Jim? We didn't see the likes of you anywhere this weekend. Jim Gardner: we were supposed to have family pictures, but that got rained out. It is now Sunday, this coming Sunday. so I had my hair cut, I was clean shaven, I was all ready to go and it got canceled. Slim Pushins: Let's see it. Let's see what you paid for. Yeah. You got screwed. Corby: You didn't go with a high and tight, so you're good. You didn't Jim Gardner: And I and I actually went and got a real haircut and I didn't go play Great Clips Roulette for fifteen dollars, you know, where you never know what you're gonna get. Corby: Dude, Brooklyn has the the greatest Slim Pushins: And that's what you ended up with? Corby: story in the world about that. I I mean I've had like I I've pretty close like had the same haircut for a long time. I in high school it was it was a lot more shaggy and then there was a while that I had to be like Slim Pushins: Shaggy? Corby: clean cut all I'm recognized, yeah, like it was all long. And I was in a bad way and so I went to Great Clips up the road and this lady was like dealing with my cowlick. It's kinda low in the back, right? And she just kept cutting and kept cutting and kept cutting and kept cutting. And Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha Corby: I said, Ma'am, can you please stop cutting my hair? Brooklyn just looked at like a dead stare and I'm like Like I had nothing. I mean I'm we're talking like Yes sir. Way back here. It was bad. It was bad. Jim Gardner: yeah, great clips roulette is Slim Pushins: I bet that ruined two months for you. Corby: dude, it ra almost like the time that you forgot to to hook up the oil gauge checker. Slim Pushins: yeah. You wanna tell that story real quick? Corby: Dude. Jim Gardner: right. Corby: I don't even remember what year it was. I I think it was twenty four. I think it was twenty Slim Pushins: It was like two years ago. Corby: four. No, I think it was twenty four. Might have been twenty three. I don't know. We had changed a motor. We didn't build a new car, we had changed a motor for sure. And I don't know. I don't remember like Jim Gardner: It's probably after you crashed at Ardmore putting the motor in the other car. That's definitely what Corby: Maybe maybe you're right. Jim Gardner: it was. Corby: And 'cause me and Kerba were left alone in the shop, which is a terrible choice. Terrible, terrible choice. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Were we drinking? Corby: Heavily. And it was on a Sunday and we need to we need to bark it off and I don't remember why Jimmy or Wesley wasn't there. I really don't remember like like well Jim Gardner: Because it was a Sunday and it was probably the day after you crashed in Ardmore. Corby: No, no. It it might have Jim Gardner: Also, I just don't even like you. So Corby: been I don't know. I don't know. It was like a Wednesday or something like that, like we were finally ready to to start the car up. And Kerba gets behind me like always, I told him to push and it it takes a second for it to break over, it breaks over and I'm talking just an absolute geyser. Geyser. Old faithful Slim Pushins: Dude it was a Corby: ain't got shit on this thing. Just just Jim Gardner: More Slim Pushins: It was it was a Corby: Why we had the top wing on is beyond me. Slim Pushins: Dude, it was a fire hose of oil that shot sh dude Jim Gardner: Motor's got oil pressure, got that high volume oil oil pump on it. Corby: So you know, and the same like you're taught as a sprint car driver you never flip the switch on until you see oil pressure. So I didn't see oil pressure, so I'm just looking here and I I mean ja old faithful. Why did we have the Slim Pushins: Dude. Corby: top wing on is beyond me. So not only does it go up s meets top wing Slim Pushins: It hit the bottom of the of the top wing and it spread three hundred and sixty degrees. I mean, you know how oil leaks. It was probably only about what? Not even a cup a cup full. But it was all Jim Gardner: yeah. An ounce of oil. Yeah. Corby: yeah, I mean n yeah, not even enough to like re refill. Slim Pushins: over Corby. It was all in his hair. It Jim Gardner: Ha ha Slim Pushins: it reached all the way back to the four wheeler. Corby: I I I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. Jim Gardner: I bet you didn't even stop Slim Pushins: He didn't Jim Gardner: the four wheeler. It's not like you drive and pay attention to what's going on. Corby: And no, and I'm like waving for him to stop and we finally stop and and I stand up Slim Pushins: Dude, I've never seen Corby wave like that. It was a panic wave. Corby: I s I take the steering wheel off, I stand and look down and I was like, There's no way that we didn't hook up the oil gauge. Slim Pushins: He didn't hick he didn't hook up the Johnson rod to the combobulator and it just spewed Corby: man. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: all over the place. Corby: So we went back, we got her hooked up, we it bumped off. It was good. Slim Pushins: We didn't stay in the shop long after that. Corby was just disgusted with himself. Corby: No, I told you my hair's not gonna be right for like three weeks at this point. Jim Gardner: Yeah. I took Slim Pushins: It was bad. Jim Gardner: I took Bates' car and his motor to the dino in the spring and I forgot I like hand tighten it on there and I never hand tighten stuff because I always try to hit it with a wrench and y and there's nothing more embarrassing than just spewing oil all over the dino with these guys and it's just like We had five years ago took motor Scott Evans built for me to a dyno and and we spun the oil filter on but it wasn't tight and it blew the whole oil filter off of it on the first dino pool. We spent I don't know, three hours cleaning it up. It was Corby: That's different. Like I had I was coming out of a what is it an AN eight right there? I mean a little bitty, not not the whole filter, the all of it. You know what I mean? Like I Jim Gardner: yeah. Yeah. Corby: what is isn't it doesn't it go an eight to a six right there? As it comes up into the gauge, I'm pretty sure. I don't know anything about motors, right? You know, y'all y'all can keep talking y'all can keep talking shit about Jim Gardner: No, it's like a two. It's like a two or a three. that's for damn certain. Corby: me. Jim Gardner: Yeah. That is for damn certain. Anyway, yeah, so no racing. Slim Pushins: Jordan wants to know why your why's your hair so messed up and greasy, like you just got off broke back mountain prairie. Corby: Bruh. Cause man, even though we got this dumb podcast we gotta do every week, you gotta squeeze in a workout, it's a long day at work. I made it like four minutes before we were supposed to start. So here doesn't look that bad. It'll buff out. Jim Gardner: Yeah. So yeah, Boyd gets rained out, it's rescheduled for s Slim Pushins: Corby Jim, you know when Corby does the podcast, he doesn't even know that that you and I are on video. He just watches himself the entire time. Corby: Hundred percent. A Jim Gardner: I I know. Corby: hundred percent. Jim Gardner: I know. but yeah so Slim Pushins: Wesley said one eighth to a minus three. Corby: So negative three? Jim Gardner: Dash three. God, you guys are making Corby: Negative three. Jim Gardner: me look bad. Negative three. Corby: That's right, it is, it is. I I always remember it's like Wesley would Wesley Slim Pushins: That's how it reads. Hold on. Jim Gardner: Mm mark that. Corby: would walk in the shop and be like, that's Pipe Thread to an A N and I'd be like I go to Jim Gardner: Mark that. I don't know what's what I'm more embarrassed about that you thought it was an eight or a six and then cur Kerbo thinks it's a negative three. Corby: I go to I go Slim Pushins: Niner. Corby: to Bert Little at Holmes Auto and say I need Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha Corby: this 'cause this is what Weston McNorton told me I need And he skates across the floor and he comes back and he's like, Here you go, Corby. I need a high pressure Slim Pushins: tell you what Corby: hose at this. Slim Pushins: I tell you what the real gift is and I've told you guys this before but I'll tell all the nine people listening. The fact the fact Corby: I need to go see Bert, man. I haven't seen him in a while or Chris and Aaron Holmes. Great people. Slim Pushins: that y'all can look at a bolt and judge it it's a five eighths. Amazes me. That's a half. Amazes me. Corby: Yeah, Wesley yeah, Wesley that that's a that's a half inch. That's a half inch. Right? Or is did you say three quarter? Jim Gardner: This ain't no hobby, Kerbo. Slim Pushins: If I huh? Jim Gardner: This ain't no hobby. Slim Pushins: If I'm by myself in the garage, I'll go through eleven wrenches till I f this is the one. No, too small. This is the one. Too big. Corby: Eleven D. What was the what was the spacer that you had talking about eleven wrenches? Jim Gardner: Well w we've all determined that you're not your specialty is not the technical aspect of the sport. Corby: Jim, what was that spacer that you had? What was it like an eleven sixteenths or something? You had a wheel spacer you had a wheel spacer. Jim Gardner: The spa yeah, the my the the cones on for the axle spacers that are marked Corby: Yeah. Jim Gardner: and it says two and eleven sixteenths on it. It's like what are we doing here, winners or DMI? Like just put two and a half, put two and five eighths. Like why is it even marked? Who cares? It's an it's an outer cone spacer. It's an outer cone Slim Pushins: Because there's people out there's people out there like you that will check their math. Jim Gardner: it's an outer cone spacer. It you it you mark the inner cone ones. I don't know. Anyway. yeah, so Slim Pushins: So Boyd got reigned out. Jim Gardner: boy got rained out, rescheduled for Saturday. Corby, you going? Corby: Man, we needed that rain on Jim Gardner: God, you must be the worst person Corby: We'll have to see. Jim Gardner: to work for or work with or date. Slim Pushins: Plan a birthday Corby: I know Slim Pushins: party for Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby: I don't even have a birthday anymore. we'll see. last week was gonna be super tough, especially on a Friday. This week on a Saturday, makes it a little bit easier, but they're running like nine classes and typical Boyd stuff, but Slim Pushins: And a meet and greet at halftime. Corby: And a meet greet. Half time? Jim Gardner: At half time. Corby: What? Outside pole? Slim Pushins: Yeah, half time. Did I say half time? I was reading. Intermission. Good. Jason Tyres here to talk flat track with Jim. Jim Gardner: man. Corby: There we go. Come on, Jason. Jason, you want to talk about flat track, man? I drove by it the other day. what what about the the Supermodo in Dallas that happened? If I'm not certain, I'm pretty certain it was you Slim Pushins: Where was that? Corby: and Brian Smith that just came back wearing motocross jerseys, just galled all the way up. Maybe it was Willie. I don't remember. But it was bad. I was like, dude, I've never, ever riding Supermoto. This is stupid. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: So what about you, Jim? What'd you do this weekend? Jim Gardner: worked on the midget some. it took me I don't know, four hours to run two oil lines that finally worked. the the midget I bought doesn't ha it it it had like an inline fuel filter looking oil filter system, which I'm not about 'cause I I I'm a you know take the oil filter off and cut it every night and I don't want to have to go through nine quarts of oil to do it. So re-plumbing it and and kind of re-engineering the brackets and and the plates for the ignitions. And mid midgets are just a pain in the ass. They have everything a sprint car does in five eighths the size. And so it took literally two or three hours to get two two lines run. but finally got that figured out. Corby: You bought it race ready, right? Jim Gardner: speaking of race ready, I took a the fuel pump apart last night and it looks like it's been drugged through the beach in Galveston. It's all pitted and disgusting, filled with sand. Like Corby: It's like Jason just said it was Willie and that's that's about how Willie looked after that crash. Jim Gardner: like you can't you gotta go through every intric i every every part, no matter what you buy, no matter who you get from. I mean it was well taken care of, and oiled and given into me separately with AN caps on it. Like, yeah, it's oiled and ready to go. And it looks like it was drug on the beach for an hour. So been doing that and Slim Pushins: It was up to somebody's s specifications, not yours. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Went and got body work for it, you know, aluminum sheets for it today. so we'll start making the body and I don't think I'm gonna be able to run it before Chili Bowl, unless we go rent a track somewhere or maybe I'll take it around the backyard and try to not hit my mom's Prius. Corby: That happened before. Jim Gardner: Yeah. So we'll see. But yeah, that's I got some midget work done and and just did some family stuff and Slim Pushins: I say I say we rank I say we rent Cam, see if you can't back it into the wall again at Cam. Jim Gardner: I don't think Mike's gonna have us back. I think I might have been the last midget driver on the on the Cam Cartway oval there. I don't think he was happy about that experiment, but Corby: Jilly Bowl's small and all, but man, like driving a midget at Cam is that's small. Jim Gardner: It served the purpose, man. Like we just need to be able to get Corby: For sure. Jim Gardner: on the gas and on the brakes and make sure nothing leaks, you know? So but yeah. So we Slim Pushins: Corby, is Jim hissin' and popping to you or is that my connection? Corby: He is. No, that's that's Jim. Jim Gardner: Let me Corby: Flip it up, flip it back Slim Pushins: I don't know if it's your Corby: down. Slim Pushins: I don't know if it's your Jim Gardner: No, if it's Slim Pushins: connection or if it's your mic. It's probably that cat down there gnawing on Jim Gardner: Smokey, Slim Pushins: wires. Jim Gardner: I'm showing to be good. Slim Pushins: You're not lagging, you're just popping and hissing. Anybody else hearing that? Jim Gardner: Right. Corby: Take your headphones. Jim Gardner: Yeah. All right. if it gets worse, let me know and I'll figure something out. Or just let it ride, I don't know. Slim Pushins: No, we're not. We're not gonna l we're not saying anything else about it. We're just gonna let you send it. Suzanne said racing Corby: Susan says Slim Pushins: starts at six thirty at Boyd. Jim Gardner: Yeah, a little early. That's good. We're gonna have good weather this weekend. It's gonna be nice and crisp. probably need to check the air density. That sounds like a good thing for me to check right now, live. Slim Pushins: Sounds that sounds like a lot of fun. Corby: Up or down in pills. Up or down. Jim Gardner: Mm. We're gonna go. Slim Pushins: I'm gonna go let's guess. Corby: Just tell me up or down. Slim Pushins: Let's guess. Are we guessing RPM or Boyd? Jim Gardner: They're gonna be the same. That's right. Lean is mean. Corby: Leaner is meaner. Leaner is meaner. Slim Pushins: I'm gonna go that it's not, but it's not by much. Jim Gardner: It's gonna be close enough to be in the same. Slim Pushins: Leon said KSP usually builds a small track for practice for the shootout and chili bowl. Jim Gardner: Yeah. we'll probably we we've been down there. That's where Corby blew out his leg, b blew out his knee, practicing, get taking a wheel off 'cause he's an athlete. Corby: Noodle arms. Jim Gardner: but yeah, so I I'll I'll be able to put a lap or two of aggression on the car. And luckily these guys didn't maintenance anything properly, but they did keep a pretty good logbook of where their setups were. So we have at least an idea of a starting point of where it's gonna be. Slim Pushins: Look, there's there's Corby: It depends, Jas it depends if you're showing Slim Pushins: the question. Corby: up with the Jason line. That's Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby: where we'll start with that. Jim Gardner: yeah, why don't you just tell people yes or no? People need to be able to plan their schedules. They w Boyd wants to know if they Corby: I know Gunnar Totten will be there. I'm pretty sure Jason will be there. I heard there's supposed to be like wing modified and stuff there too. Slim Pushins: Brian said Brian Corby: Got it. Slim Pushins: said your headset's definitely crapping out. Jim Gardner: Mine is? All right. Well. Slim Pushins: And Ruop's guessing twenty four hundred. Jim Gardner: With a hundred and thirty Slim Pushins: I'm going Jim Gardner: thousand on water grains. Wow. Okay. That's a lot. Slim Pushins: I'm going I'm going six fifty. Corby, what's your guess? Jim Gardner: It's gonna be Yeah, the density Corby: six fifty. The the elevation, is that what we're talking about? Or we're talking about water grains? Jim Gardner: altitude's gonna be I I would say about fifteen hundred feet. So air will be pretty good Saturday night. whether or not you're going Slim Pushins: I was that far off? Jim Gardner: to Boyd or to RPM, be going to RPM for the 360 show ASCS National Tour. We'll have a couple of our guys down there. I saw where Landon Valenzuela is gonna be there. We're gonna take Braxton. Ryder LaPlan will be there. I imagine S Doublefield's got a three sixty, right? Slim Pushins: Bolden said he'd be out there. Jim Gardner: Is Bolden go it He Corby: I don't know if Summerfield has has a three sixty or he just has a four ten. I'm not sure. Jim Gardner: well Stubblefield ran the sh the last ASCS show they had there, which is in twenty four. And he ran up front. I think he finished fourth in that show. But is Bolden racing or is he just going? Slim Pushins: He said he was. Jim Gardner: Racing? Slim Pushins: They they posted that they were. Jim Gardner: nice. So we should have a pretty good contingent of our kind of local our our local guys. So hopefully hopefully we put on a good Corby: I might need to go to RPM. I might need to. Jim Gardner: show. You're not going to RPM. You're going to Boyd. Say it right. Slim Pushins: Game, did you charge did you charge your headset? Jim Gardner: I did just charge it. So Corby: I saw the charge, that's not what it is. Jim Gardner: yeah. anyway, but yeah, that's what we got. Going on. We got Cade Taylor coming on the show at about seven thirty. My wife's telling me to turn my headset off and back on. Hang on just a second. You all talk amongst yourselves for a second. Let me Slim Pushins: How come when she says it, he he acts immediately? But when we say something Jim Gardner: That's th that's that's called marriage. You two would yeah. Slim Pushins: Thanks, Chelsea. Thanks for backing us up. Corby: I don't know anything about that. Slim Pushins: He has no idea what we're saying about him right now. Corby: wish he would. That hat is just horrendous. Horrendous. He probably ha he Slim Pushins: That ugly ugly hat. What a horrible hat. Corby: probably has his speaker on on the the laptop Slim Pushins: What a horrible looking hat. Who still wears Corby Scherb swag? Did you s did you see that? Corby: There's now he now he put us on the he put us on the laptop now. Slim Pushins: Did you see that haircut? Corby: Clean I get the high and tight. Slim Pushins: That's not hindsight. So where'd you go, Jim? Jim Gardner: All right. am I back? Slim Pushins: Look at him, he's we're good. Jim Gardner: My wife, the IT specialist. Slim Pushins: Chelsea Chelsea to the rescue. Jim Gardner: Thanks, Chelsea. Corby: Casey Merle jumping in there. Slim Pushins: We were just talking about you, Jim. Jim Gardner: Yeah. K Casey Merrill's got a three sixty. Is he gonna go? Good. Corby: Yeah, Jason, I I've seen I've seen Yep. Yeah, Jason, I've seen Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby: Tiff extremely excited with you and my brother Merle at Topeka before. I've seen that too. Slim Pushins: If it's got dirt on it, Corby's been there. Corby: No, not necessarily. No, man, Merle ended Jason's national career. He went in and knocked off my buddy from Australia, Mick Kirkness, and Jason got clothes lined by the motorcycle. Jim Gardner: That's the truest statement I've seen. Corby: He had his Slim Pushins: Is Mick is Corby: dad prez Slim Pushins: Mick not the best Australian name ever? Mick. Corby: for sure. Mick was cool man, he was a super cool guy. Jason had the test of tests. Prez said you don't have to go to the hospital if you can name all four of the Sherbs. Jim Gardner: I had a tough time doing that the first three months I knew you guys, so Slim Pushins: Hey, I think your mic is now Jim Gardner: Damn it. Slim Pushins: No no no, I think no the it sounds fine, it's just quiet. I think your I think it's your laptop mic that's picking up. Jim Gardner: What a disaster. I I've been telling Corby: Easy there, Tim the toolman Taylor. Easy. Slim Pushins: Remember like remember like Corby's was when we kept hearing his ice drop every Corby: It's going right now. Slim Pushins: Yeah, but we can't hear it now because you fixed it. Look at J that's Jim deep in thought. Just working out problem. Just Jim Gardner: That's exactly what's going on. Hang on. Slim Pushins: working out problem. Who's the tech whiz now? Jim Gardner: Still my wife. why can't I change Slim Pushins: Just working out problems. Jim Gardner: it right now? Alright, hang on just a second here. Slim Pushins: He's gone. Even better. Corby: He's dead. He's dead. So since he's not on right now, you know, I I just Slim Pushins: Do we Corby: we sorted through the brands of toasters and we figured out one, but when you gotta figure out how to keep the breaker on long enough. So if you got any electricians out there, Slim Pushins: The breaker from breaking. Before the sizzle. Corby: help me out. Slim Pushins: so I asked Jim what he did this weekend. You and I went Corby: Man, we had a good weekend, man. It was chill. It was it was nice. we needed a ton of rain. It was kinda chilly. I scored some dinner Friday night and then Saturday met up with Wilson and Felicia and Casey Merle, Corey Pennington showed up showed up. Slim Pushins: We went to the truckyard out in Alliance. Corby: It was nice. It was a good it was a good time. Jimmy was nowhere around. wish Wesley sh showed up, but it was good to have a weekend away from Jim. Slim Pushins: Jimmy, I mean Corby made fun of my drinks. Jim, do you have that picture I sent you? Jim Gardner: yes, give me just a second. I Slim Pushins: man, you sound great. We were just talking good about you. Jim Gardner: No, you weren't. I could still hear you you ding dongs. Slim Pushins: Yeah, so I ordered I don't know. It they have a cool way of ordering out there. You scan and I know other restaurants do this, but this this place was like on it. You scan the QR code, go through the menu, so if there's ten people sitting there, everybody can pay their own. There it is. So I ordered dr I ordered frozen drinks and the app online asked me if I wanted a double and I was like, Yeah, give me a double. And This is what it came in, a Willie Nelson cup and a Dolly Parton cup. And Corby wasn't as impressed as I was. Corby: Cool man. Here here we go, Wesley. Jim Gardner: That's what you made me that's what you were upset with that I didn't have that piece of audio? Corby: If I'm a betting man, Wesley, you had like four volleyball games Slim Pushins: West had games. Corby: and then maybe it slid in a baseball game or something. And then and then Aunt Sam had to to redecorate Slim Pushins: Volleyball, baseball, basketball, birthday party. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Corby: her classroom. You probably had to hang shelves there if I'm a betting man. Jim Gardner: All right. Sorry, I'm still scrambling over my mic here. Do I sound all right now? Alright, gotcha. Alright. Slim Pushins: It's fine. Everything's good now. Problem solved, Corby: You're you're good now, you're back. Back in action. Slim Pushins: 'cause I'm the IT whiz. Jim Gardner: Yeah. All right. all right. So Corby: Let's get a count, you know, while we're we're alive on the air. Let's get a count. Who's going to board? Who's going to R PM? Slim Pushins: You can't even how do you expect other people to come clean? You haven't even come clean. Corby: I'll I'll be where I'm Jim Gardner: Good point. Corby: at. Sometimes you just gotta let go and let God. Jim Gardner: Just doesn't have to be that hard, man. Corby: You know what I mean? Slim Pushins: Hey, I know I made fun of your hat, Jim, but we have a group text with Jebaba and Jeb claims that your team cost him five hundred bucks on like a parlay. Jim Gardner: Well, if he's partaking in the sin of gambling, that's a that's his own damn issue. Slim Pushins: But if you're interested in gambling Jim Gardner: Follow our fall podcast. No, we're not doing one of those. Slim Pushins: Holler Holler Holler at Gemini if it's if you wanna if you look in the gamble. Jim Gardner: no. But Slim Pushins: on sports. Or the casino. I'll go to the casino with you. Jim Gardner: what was I gonna check? All right, let's Cade's in here. You want to bring Kate on? Yeah, he's ready to roll. Slim Pushins: Is he? Yeah. Jim Gardner: So, yeah, we got Cade Taylor on this week. He was kind enough to to jump. That's Slim Pushins: The East Texas flash. Jim Gardner: right. Let me get him in here. How do I do this? Slim Pushins: We've never done backstage. There he is. Jim Gardner: Yeah. There he is, there's the man. He's even in the shop. What's up, Cade? Slim Pushins: What's up, man? Kade Taylor: just enjoying a Tuesday. I'm Jim Gardner: boy. Kade Taylor: in a race car shop, so can you hear me? Jim Gardner: Z Slim Pushins: Yeah, I can't fix Jim Gardner: boy. Slim Pushins: that one. That's worse than your internet, Jim. Jim Gardner: Yeah. again. While Kate's still working on this. Slim Pushins: Remember Raimi had this problem. He went like five different spots. Shop, driveway, front yard. Jim Gardner: Yeah, and he he had to go yeah, he had to go in in the house and and then Dylan was in his ear the whole time. Yeah. It it Cato Slim Pushins: Dad, tell him about the time. Jim Gardner: Kato figure it out. When we're lets him back in and we'll figure it out. It'll be all good. But yeah, so Slim Pushins: Jeb said I hope I never have to touch a mag again. Jim Gardner: Yeah, and just a little troubleshooting, and that's the beauty of doing this live. All right, we're gonna try again here. Kade Taylor: Late. Jim Gardner: Yeah, maybe. Corby: We're back you're you're s you're still following. You're in. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I think we're this is the best so far. Kade Taylor: We're off the Wi Fi. Corby: Tell tell Josh that I'm gonna send him a set of point to point internet antennas. Jim Gardner: Corby's got a solution Kade Taylor: Yeah. Jim Gardner: for that. Josh might still be hacked off about Grayson County though, so Corby driving into him. Corby: man, I think it was me more upset than than him and Slim Pushins: About Cor Corby Corby cutting him off? Corby: man, racing deal is fun. it's always good to be short track racing. I I would have been a lot more upset if I pulled the if I pulled the what Cade did to Wilson at RPM than me and Josh. No, Jim Gardner: I just passed you clean to win. Corby: just drive around him with a last slap like it was nothing and That's a big win, man. That's that's huge. Especially someone like Wilson. Slim Pushins: Hannah had nothing but good things to say about us in the podcast during intermission. He had just found it, told Jim he watched every episode, went back and watched everything he could, and then Corby just lit him up the entire the entire feature like a true asshole. Jim Gardner: Corey's hammering the left rear wheel and bumper and everything all the way down the back stretch. But you'll have that. Anyway, Kate, thanks for joining last minute and I know dealing with some technical issues, but we'll be all right. yeah, so what do you got what do you got going on this weekend? boy. Slim Pushins: He's great as long as he doesn't have to talk. Jim Gardner: boy, we won't have to try again. You still there? Alright. Yeah, might need to try one more time. Slim Pushins: Go to Ramey's living room. That's where the best Jim Gardner: I think Slim Pushins: Back to you, Slim. You started popping again. I don't know what's up with yours. That's a good headset. This show's gonna have a whole lot of highlights. Corby: What do you give him the the extra one? Jim Gardner: I got my cat bugging the ever living out of me. Corby: the i racing rig that I got here, buddy, with the white living it up. Jim Gardner: Those Slim Pushins: Is there anything more absolute fun than watching Jim lose his mind? Corby: Bangles hat. Jim Gardner: Taxing Cade trying to Slim Pushins: Let's do that. We'll just do the whole interview via comment, Facebook comment. Thirty second thirty second delay. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I just I just translate it back and forth w we text. So well Kate Cade says he's excited to run his midget this week, you know. Like Cade said that the r the Slim Pushins: He'd like to thank his sponsors. Jim Gardner: the win at RPM was one of the highlights of his life outside of getting married. To but to beat Chad Wilson on the top was the greatest Corby: Dude. Jim Gardner: he said he's moving into the house now, so we'll see. Corby: I I think I I think I've only passed Chad on the top one time, ever. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby: Ever. There's a picture of it. Jim Gardner: Smokey, leave me alone. I got enough problems. Slim Pushins: We've got all sorts Jim's Jim's got headset problems, his cat's attacking him. Corby: Rider. Jim Gardner: Cat's I gotta trim his nails. Corby: Ryder and Jeb sliding in. Slim Pushins: Right. Jim Gardner: Smokey, don't bite me. No. All right. Corby: Dude, man, we had cats as kids growing up, man, and they would sleep on your feet and if you moved at all. You're you're a little kid and you moved in your sleep, they I just absolute attack you. The amount of times those cats got kicked across the entire house is beyond me. Every night, they'd sleep on someone's feet. Slim Pushins: Dude, I'd kick the shit out of a cat. Corby: man. Slim Pushins: I know I'm about to get a text message from you know who about Jim Gardner: I'll edit that out. Slim Pushins: animal abuse, but Corby: for sure. Jim Gardner: Mm. Corby: Was it Sarah McLaughlin? Slim Pushins: Are we Corby: In the arms of it Jim Gardner: All right, got the cat outside. Slim Pushins: Are we good? Did you kick it? Jim Gardner: No, I did not kick it. I love the cat. There he's moving. Talk. we don't have audio. The video Corby: He got no sound, but Slim Pushins: No, we don't have any voice. We've got great connection though. Jim Gardner: is is good. Bunch of smart race car people. We'll get this figured out here shortly. Still got no audio from you. Slim Pushins: This is awesome. Corby: This is gonna be great. This has to be like the greatest show of all time. Jim Gardner: it'd be it'd be all right. That the old East Texas internet connections. Yeah. Yeah, it'll be good. Slim Pushins: Jim Jim's gonna edit this down to about a thirteen minute show anyway. Jim Gardner: I appreciate both of you for staying on, both of our listeners for staying on sitting through this, but Corby: The two that keep common. Jim Gardner: May this be the worst thing that happens to us all week, you know what I mean? Corby: I hope so. Right, are you ready to go rip some ACS stuff at RPM? We got you. Jim Gardner: All right. Kade Taylor: Now! Awesome. Slim Pushins: How about now? Corby: We're there. Jim Gardner: I think Kade Taylor: We're good now. Okay. Slim Pushins: Hand Jim Gardner: we're Slim Pushins: is Jim Gardner: golden now. Appreciate you coming on still. we were just talking bad about you for eight minutes and yeah. anyway. Kade Taylor: Yeah, thanks for having me guys. It's fine. You're not the first people probably won't be last. Jim Gardner: Well, we had the same issues with Raimi when he was on. He was in the shop for the cool aesthetic background and then he had to move inside. So it's all good. But we appreciate you coming on, man. Kade Taylor: Yeah, you'd think that a racing podcast would be happy with that background, but I guess not. I don't want to work. Jim Gardner: Yeah, no, yeah. They don't care at all. So Corby: We just got Kerbo and his Texas flag. That's all we got. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Kade Taylor: Hahaha Slim Pushins: Hey, that flag flew over the state capitol on nine eleven, two thousand one. Jim Gardner: What if Corby: Which is your birthday? For anyone who's ever wondering. Slim Pushins: That's why I got it. I ordered it and it Kade Taylor: Well. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: they still sent it to me. Kade Taylor: I'm going. Jim Gardner: All right. Kate, so you're not running RPM or Boyd Saturday. Where are you running this weekend? Kade Taylor: I will be north of the Red River at Port City Raceway, so I'll be running for Mount Stout Motorsports in their midget Thursday, Friday and Saturday night. So I got a full slate this coming weekend. Pretty excited to get back there though. Jim Gardner: I had Slim Pushins: That's pretty cool. Kade Taylor: Yeah, it's kind of been like little up and down with them this year getting on the same page as far as what I'm comfortable with and a setup of the car. And so last couple of times out, we really started to hit on that and fine tune it. So it's kind of nice to get to go back to Port City where we started to get comfortable and get three nights in a row there. Slim Pushins: That's a hell of a ride. Jim Gardner: Yep. Port City Kade Taylor: Yeah, no doubt. Jim Gardner: is rowdy. We took we took baits up there last spring and that was the first time I'd been there in probably ten years. And in a midget man it's it's pretty rowdy. Corby: It's narrow. Jim Gardner: stuff happens quick up there. Kade Taylor: Very narrow. A lot of fun. Corby: yeah. Jim Gardner: So and and the Yeah, I'm sure it is. I had aspirations of taking my pile up there, but it alas it only has the motor still in it. So I got a lot of work to do for Chili Bowl. Kade Taylor: You got time, there's three nights. Jim Gardner: but Yeah, I don't think I'm gonna be getting that that done in that. Those days are are well beyond me. Corby wore me out on building cars in three days. So anyway. Well Slim Pushins: It was done many times. Jim Gardner: that's cool. I was looking through your stats. you know, we we you know, we had you come on yesterday and and I spent some last night, some time this morning kind of going through your stats. Cade and I used to be non wing down Dog Pounders in 2021. Kade Taylor: Yeah. Jim Gardner: I sent him some screenshots of him and I apparently having super national battles in the back of B mains outside of transfer spots. So we've we've come a long way on this deal. Slim Pushins: Just wheel to wheel action. Jim Gardner: Right. Kade Taylor: For sure. Corby: It feels good to shake shake Jim Gardner off. Feels good. Jim Gardner: Half a lap down. Yeah, that's right. So Kade Taylor: Hahaha! Jim Gardner: but I got him once and he got me once, it looks like. So you know, you've been at this a while, and then I'm on my race pass, and it's like he ran. The World of Outlaw shows at Dodge City, Kansas in twenty twelve. And I'm sitting there thinking, that would make him like thirteen years Slim Pushins: Four. Jim Gardner: old. I don't think that's correct. So is there somebody Kade Taylor: Not correct. Jim Gardner: may may is there like Caden Taylor or something else that's not you that would show up on your My Race Pass? Kade Taylor: I'm guessing so. I've never gotten to the bottom of that. I don't really know where those popped up from, where they came from. I've even like hit the Google pretty hard. I couldn't tell you. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I I couldn't figure it out, but you know, I'm sitting here thinking, like, man, he was running it it someplace in Wisconsin in twenty eleven. That seems kind of weird, but okay. And so there's there's some random stuff going on there. Kade Taylor: Yeah, considering I probably wasn't old enough to run a sprint car at that time. Jim Gardner: Yeah, exactly. So they're like, he's been kind of all over the place. I thought he was pretty young. So anyway, but you've been around and Kade Taylor: Yeah. Jim Gardner: doing this for a while. you're kind of new-ish to the three five scene though, right? Kade Taylor: Yeah, kind Jim Gardner: In this area. Kade Taylor: of all I really got to run when I ran sprint cars with a lot of non-wing stuff. I ran one wing grace at Devil's Bowl. I couldn't even tell you how we did. I we did decent. But yeah, kind of when my family got a car and I went that route after I got out of driving midgets for people the second night out, we were at Lone Star Speedway, which is right down the street from our shop where I live in Kilgore. and didn't even make it through turn one of heat one and a bunch of guys piled it up and destroyed the wings and at that time I didn't have money for more wings so was like I wanted to run the non-wing thing anyway so I just went and ran with Nathan and figured out pretty decent at first like we were real fast in the beginning I did real good at 281 and then podiumed at Monarch and then had something break in the steering at Big O leading and when I destroyed that car we just had a hard time getting a handle on any cars after that Strobe it big time. Jim Gardner: Man, two it was two eighty one Speedway the one in Stevenville. Oof Corby: Yes. Yeah. Kade Taylor: Yeah, it was real, I think it was a memorial race of some sort. We qualified and everything. Corby: Wesley'll know, if Wesley's still Jim Gardner: Yeah. We Corby: listening. Jim Gardner: man, we went we we w we've been there a time or two with the three fives back in the day and it was it was rough. I I don't miss those trip. Corby: I remember they called it one night, they they had us all draw in. What did we run we might have ran heat races, I don't remember. And they told everyone to pack it up and leave and we got back on two eighty one and I mean an absolute monster. Like all Jim Gardner: that monsoon. Corby: of us we're just stopped in the middle of two eighty one. Like there's nothing you can do. You just gotta ride it out. It was bad. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. It was Kade Taylor: you Jim Gardner: it was the biggest storm I'd ever s been a part of. It was sketchy. But Corby: Dude, let's just go ahead and air it out right now, man. Like what what does it feel like to to drive by Chad Wilson on the last lap? On the outside? Kade Taylor: Well, so to be honest with you, we were talking after Slim Pushins: Yeah. Kade Taylor: Smiley's last week and we were talking about that. And I have to say that I was telling Chad that I was really, I knew I had a good shot at it on the restart and I knew I was going to be able to build a big run, but I was really trying not to pull up beside him and show him too early because I knew he was a pretty clever driver and I'd seen him plenty of times swing out wide and take it away from the guy outside. So I thought I did a good job. not letting him know I was there till the last second, but he informed me that he did see me the lap before going into one and two and just decided, I guess, to leave it open. I guess he didn't think that I could put it up there and drive around, but we did. And so that was that. Jim Gardner: That's pretty good. I was Corby: Huge man. It's a big win. Slim Pushins: Just ripping. Corby: RPM, beating Chad like that on the last slap, you know, staying hungry to the end of the race, because it's not easy, especially in 305s, man. There there's so many times I think in 305s that you can only go so fast and you have to do something drastically different to to make anything happen. 305s are I know Jimmy's gonna, yeah, he's gonna scratch his chin. He's gonna think differently, but there's a lot of times in 305s, man, like you can only go this fast. This is it. You can't do anymore. Jim Gardner: disagree with that. Kade Taylor: Yeah, I've definitely picked up on that and kudos to Kevin that night. He gave us a racetrack. Corby: For sure. Kade Taylor: mean, it bone slick to the fence. So Chad couldn't go very fast around the bottom. And you know, the longer that I got her wound up, I could just make more and more speed up there. it was definitely enough to lean on and you could get it in there the right way and use the wall to lean on as well a little bit. Jim Gardner: Yeah, so that that win that wasn't the past race here. That was two races ago or three races ago Corby: Three races ago. Jim Gardner: that you won that one. but you had a hell of a good showing at the Smiley's race last week. put on a show, Kade Taylor: Yes. Jim Gardner: passed a hell of a lot of cars, and did some donuts inadvertently too. So tell us about Kade Taylor: Yeah. Jim Gardner: the the the thirty lap war that was the smiley memorial last week. Kade Taylor: well, you know, first off, Josh and David gave me a rocket ship and, we, we lost the heat race on the last lap, to 59 car. and it really felt like it had a little bit to do with the fact that we felt like the track was going to hold up better than it did. started to slick off halfway through the heat and I really started to lose grip and also did a good job of not letting me know he was there. I'd drove a little more defensive if I'd have known that he was there. so that being said, you know, going into the main event, we went out and checked the track and the middle was slicking up pretty good. It was still real juiced up top and there's a little bit around the bottom of one and two, not much in three and four, but, or opposite of that. But, I really like was telling them I didn't want a free car. Like if I, if we were going to err on one side or the other, tight me up. And they definitely gave me that I was way tighter than what I wanted, but it's what I asked for. So, and as the. Like the two times that I spun, they were on longer green flag runs. And as the runs went on and tires got hot, it just got worse and worse. And the first time I was really like after Monday got by me, I was holding pace pretty decent. And I thought with how tight I was, I could run it in in the middle and be able to turn it down across the bottom, in slick, turn it real hard, run across the bottom and make some more speed to be able to slide him into one and two. But I just didn't slow my entry speed at all when I entered in slick, looped her around and is what it is the second time. To be honest with you, I got to third and felt like I was quite a bit faster than Chad and was tracking him. And I just cheated the top too much getting into one and two because I was getting tighter and tighter. I think I'd pushed into the wall a lot before and should have just kept driving through it. Because I also felt like as I'd get tied, I was losing speed. And I talked to Ramy after the race and I don't think that was the case. I don't think I was losing speed as I got tighter on the runs. think when I started searching, I started losing speed. Corby: It's tough man, like Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby: I said, you three five race and I don't I don't care who you are and and how badass of a race car driver you think you are, man, three fives are tough. It's it's easy it's it's really, really easy to drive a wing three five. It's really tough to be consistently fast. Kade Taylor: Yeah, you just don't have a lot of power to pull you out Jim Gardner: I prove that every time I get in the car. Kade Taylor: of tough spots. Like you really, you have to be pretty mindful of what spots you end up in because there's not, there's not a lot to get you out of tough spots. So you got to drive aggressive, but defensive the whole time. Because at the same time, if you're not aggressive Corby: For sure. Kade Taylor: and you don't take a spot or you kill your momentum, well, then you've lost a lot. Corby: yeah. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I you know, I've been going with Braxton Weger the last couple of weeks and and always reminding him how hard and how hard we work and how challenging it is to find a tenth on somebody and how easy it is to give away seven tenths. and, you know, to to really be precise and limit the mistakes to beat these veterans, you know, Rameys and Wilsons and and guys like that. You just you know, and that's my my biggest flaw is I'm you know, I'll put together two good laps and then have the worst lap anybody's ever seen. and and give it all back and then try to tr Kade Taylor: Okay. Jim Gardner: try to get it back and and you know, th everybody's in such a tight box it it makes it really challenging, Kade Taylor: Yeah. Jim Gardner: week in, week out, especially around here. Slim Pushins: Jim, you make it really hard to talk smack about you when you talk more smack about yourself than we could ever do. Jim Gardner: I I I just tell it how it is, you know. I'm I this driving shit is hard. I make it look hard every every night. And that's why I'm, you know, when I'm setting the car up, I I try to give the drivers some slack. you know, 'cause I I make it look difficult. Nobody's looking at me going, watch that guy, he's got it figured out, you know. So Yeah. Slim Pushins: It's always Jim's fault. If he's driving or if he's chiefin. It's always Jim's fault. Kade Taylor: Yeah Or a wrenching. Yeah, that's about right. Jim Gardner: Well. That's that's who I can control. That's that's who I can focus on making better. So anyway. so w what how long you been in this racing racket? Kade Taylor: I started racing Bandeleiros Jim Gardner: Cade. Kade Taylor: at TMS when I was nine years old. Lasted there for probably about a year and really wasn't for me. I was really into dirt racing, open-wheel sprint cars. So, outlaw carts kind of started to get bigger in Texas and we shifted that way and that's about all she rode after that. I picked that up pretty quick and moved through divisions pretty fast. Sergan some opportunities and some microbes. Kaylee Engstrom put me in hers a couple of times. So did Donald Nicholson. Shout out to them. Really appreciate that. And then after that, I got an opportunity to midget for Rick Bailey and drove for him for a couple of years. Learned a lot. And then after that's when my family decided to do our own thing with the Sprint car. And like I said, did pretty good at first and then really struggled a couple of years and then went back to driving for people. Jim Gardner: Deal. yeah. Corby: How'd you and Josh come about? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Kade Taylor: actually through Hawkins. So what was it? It was either two or three years ago. I had reached out to Josh. Well, me and Josh actually met when I first started sprint car racing. He helped me out before the Kilgore race. He probably didn't remember this with a, with a gear. let me borrow a gear, you a gear for the track. and then, you know, some years later, I think it Slim Pushins: Mm. Kade Taylor: was 2024, 2023. I had a pretty stellar year in that. We wanted like over a 50 % clip and won some big races and I had talked to Hawkins earlier that year kind of You know about helping with the midgets and if you had anything open and so he called me I think was late September early October somewhere in there Hey, you know, I got I think it's five or six midgets to get ready I don't have time but if you can help me out we can find a way to get you in one of them So I went over there and got all the midgets ready for chili bowl with Brad, my grandpa, Josh, Hawkins, and they gave me an opportunity in the 80 car, and which went honestly, I feel like it should have went better, but you know, first time at the Chili Bowl and not have been in a midget eight years. We did pretty good. We won the C on our prelim night and unfortunately got a awesome Hoosier tire for the V-Main on there that was not worth it. Dang. So the V-Main didn't go Jim Gardner: Ha ha. Kade Taylor: our way, but Yeah, I ran for Josh Hawkins last two years. So I met Hannah through that, you Hannah drives their best friends and he drives a midget for him. And, Hannah's had, you know, some concussions over the years and he got one about on a chili bowl this year. And so he, he'd kind of mentioned it a little bit like, I might have you drive my sprint car this next year. And, we were at one of my buddy, Trey Fuellen plays football, played for the renegades, for the Packers a little bit. We were at a football game and, I think Hannah had a beer or two and he was ready to put me in his car. So. Kind of how that came about and you know that I feel like the Slim Pushins: Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: Your your buddy with the assist. Kade Taylor: first night was kind an audition. Hanna had never had anybody in his car and wasn't wasn't real sure how it would go or not. But when we left that night it was like, yeah, we're gonna do a lot more racing. Jim Gardner: That's good. And it and it's helped the program. Josh was hauling ass at Grayson County. I couldn't catch him. Corby couldn't catch him. Well Corby Corby Kade Taylor: Rip it. Yeah. Jim Gardner: tried to wreck him. And yeah Josh. Kade Taylor: Ben, that's one thing that's been so Corby: man, Kade Taylor: awesome. He's even said it's like reignited in Corby: I man, I'll touch base on this too. You well Jim Gardner: Yeah. Kade Taylor: his passion and whatnot. Corby: And that man, that's Kyle Jones had spoke about it that a lot of times, man, like just simply for the opportunity to drive for someone, i it doesn't matter what it looks like or or what you feel about it is like just showing up showing up every weekend and just like that, like you said, that Hawkins couldn't get all the cars ready to go and you showed up and just gave a little bit, you never know where life's gonna take you after that and it fill in and then you won a three five race. Kade Taylor: Yeah, yeah, no, it's been great. It's like turned Jim Gardner: That's pretty cool. Kade Taylor: over a bunch of opportunities for me that like I said, other than that, I've been sitting on the sidelines just jumping in something when I can. So I've definitely been more than grateful. It's helped me out a ton just to get some film out there. know, nobody knows about you if you don't drive anything. Corby: For sure. Jim Gardner: I understand that. Slim Pushins: They know about you when you start winning races. Kade Taylor: That's for sure. Jim Gardner: And just putting on Corby: Well being from East Texas doesn't doesn't help a a a ton either, you know. Kil Kilgore, Roseball, you know Yeah, Kade Taylor: Nah, that made it real tough. demographic in the gist of Yeah. Corby: you know, I mean there there's some cool racetracks out there that don't don't really have anything to do with, especially sprint car racing anymore. so yeah, being from East Texas isn't isn't the easiest place to be from. 'Cause I mean what do you do? You drive to Louisiana and The same, I mean Louisiana isn't that big, you know, what what's that, you know, hour and a half to to two and a half anywhere you go or you gotta come back to the Metroplex, same, you know, two and a half hours to the majority of places around here. So Kade Taylor: Yeah, the last five years I've been driving to Oklahoma to race. It's about every time. Allocards, midgets, whatever Corby: Right. Right. Jim Gardner: What? Kade Taylor: I can get in, it's been Oklahoma. Jim Gardner: Yeah. I I called RPM Speedway East Texas once and Kerbo about about punched me in the face while Kade Taylor: It's not. Jim Gardner: driving. Slim Pushins: Well, 'cause if you've ever spent one night if you've ever spent one night in Tyler or one night in Kade Taylor: You'll know. Slim Pushins: Lufkin or even Beaumont, that Jim Gardner: I haven't I haven't. Slim Pushins: is a long way from being East Texas. And and Jim Gardner: Okay, fair enough. Slim Pushins: East Te if there's not a pine tree on the property, East Texans are Kade Taylor: Yeah. Slim Pushins: gonna take issue with it. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I think RPM is about the furthest east I've been. Kade Taylor: The pine curtain. Yeah, that's definitely not his taxes. Love our PN. Jim Gardner: Yeah. But Corby: Rosebow was pretty gnarly out there, man. I I remember jumping off turn three, man. Our people talk about Ardmore was scary. Rosebow was was pretty gnarly jumping off turn three there. Slim Pushins: Rose Bowl. Kade Taylor: Yeah, I never got to run Rose Bowl, but I watched plenty Corby: Rose Bowl. Jim Gardner: It was ro Kade Taylor: there. Slim Pushins: Did they was that di was it just called Rose it's 'cause there is a Rose Bowl that they play football in. Corby: Naturally, but we're not talking about that. We're talking about a speedway. And then there there's Kilgore that is Yeah. And then there's Kilgore that was originally Jim Gardner: Thanks, Kervo. Slim Pushins: No no no, I'm talking there's a Rose Bowl in Jacksonville. Not the Rose Bowl. But there's a Rose Bowl stadium in Jacksonville. Corby: a half mile that's very paper clipped, red red clay, and then they shortened it to try to make it a three eighths. I mean maybe Kate even actually drove it. That was Jimmy, you were there with us. That was the first time I ever drove anything non wing was at Kilgore. Jim Gardner: Yeah, we went once and we weren't very good. Corby: No, me, what me, Logan and Lucas. Lucas was all right. He ended up I think winning his heat raise but really struggled in the future and then me and Jim Gardner: But you know who was the show that night in the Scherb camp? Mike George. Mike George ran our fourth car that night. Corby: yeah. yeah. Mike George was everything that night. If you were there, Kate, you would remember it. If there was someone just like, I mean, absolutely booking it through the pits, back and forth, trying to get a car to start, that was that was one of the Scherb cars. Jim Gardner: It was Mike George. Yeah. Kade Taylor: Yeah, I was there that night on the Jim Gardner: I think Kade Taylor: the wrenches for somebody I didn't race that night Corby: Yeah. Jim Gardner: The Kade Taylor: Yeah. Jim Gardner: the last non wing show there. Yeah, it might have been the last three five non wing show, if I Corby: I think so. Jim Gardner: if I remember correctly. So but yeah, I think I went out with Corby, your brother Logan, like in February or March that year for a wing show there too. It was just me and him. I think we sucked also that night. I only remember the nights we were bad. Corby: I remember there was one time talking about we'll talk about Kilgorn. I hate to take away from Cade, but I hadn't started racing sprint cards yet, it was only Logan at the time. And people don't know this either. Like Logan's the youngest brother out of all of us. And we went to Rose Pole and I wasn't gonna drive 'cause it's a bigger track, you know, we weren't gonna do any of that and we show up and Logan wins his heat race and we push out for the feature and I don't know, he like redrew like eighth or something like that. And then he drives up in the same like man, like we knew what sprint car guys were, but like we didn't know. And Logan drove up and passed Sam Haferty, right? And I'm like, shit, man, like Kade Taylor: Nice. Thank Corby: he's pretty good, right? Logan spins out. This is like the fifth lap. Logan spins out. Okay, and so he falls back to third, restart. Logan goes up, wins it, beats Sam, pulls up to the scales, four pounds of light. Kade Taylor: All the hardwoods. Jim Gardner: Sounds about right. Sounds about so the Rose Bowl Speedway is Corby: On motorcycles, only the motorcycle was weighed, so like it was basically like almost impossible to be underweight and he comes back and he's throwing a giant fit and he's like, We were underweight and I'm like, I don't even know what that means, dude. What are you talking about we were underweight? And he was like, We were four pounds light. So we drove home and I was like Jim Gardner: But Rose Bowl Speedway is different than than the Kilgore racetrack, right? That's what we determined. Okay. So here's the thing about where I grew up racing. We had Bloomington Speedway, Lawrenceburg Speedway, Gas City I-69 Speedway, Florence Corby: Yes, it's two different places. Kilgore and Tyler. Kade Taylor: Yeah. Corby: He's always gotta just like drop like big names. Jim Gardner: Speedway, and and there's just is the name of the town that the racetrack was in, right? And now I move here and there's Rose Bowl, Super Bowl, Devil's Bowl, RPM. Corby: Cotton bowl. Jim Gardner: Heart of Texas, Monarch. They're like, can't you just call it Kilgore Racetrack? Slim Pushins: Void. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. Boyd Raceway. I love Boyd Raceway. You know, Kennedale Speedway Park. If I like the only reason I went to Kennedale the first weekend I moved down here is because I could find it on a map. Kade Taylor: That's great. Corby: Yep, one five. Jim Gardner: Where's Super Bowl Speedway at? Like yeah. Corby: Two eighty one. Jim Gardner: yeah, like I I two eighty Corby: I don't even know the town that two eighty one's actually in 'cause it's not Stephenville. It it's it's a town Abilene, you like Abilene? Yeah, South Texas is Corpus Chrissy. Jim Gardner: It's close enough to Stephenville, but I was just when I moved here, I was like, where the hell are where yeah Kade Taylor: in there in South Texas, right? Jim Gardner: where is there was Gator Slim Pushins: Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: Motorplex? Like, why can't you just call Kade Taylor: Yeah. Jim Gardner: it like I'm sitting there googling where Golden Triangle Raceway is, you know, and I'm like, God damn it, can't you just put XYZ Kade Taylor: you Jim Gardner: Z City Speedway and let's move on? Slim Pushins: How long have you been in Texas, Jim? Jim Gardner: This is my eleventh year. I just I I figured it out now, Kerbo, but I hold grudges. I d it doesn't make any sense to me. Everything's gotta have a fancy Slim Pushins: You'll figure it out. It you'll figure it all out. There's a reason Kade Taylor: you Jim Gardner: name. Slim Pushins: there's a reason we make real chili down here. Jim Gardner: Okay. All right. Enough of that. Corby: Alright, dude, like let's let's let's get deep, man. Like what's the big difference in driving a midget and driving a wing three five? Kade Taylor: Grip? Yeah, mean the pillow on top helps a lot. Man, the midgets are... Corby: Yeah. Kade Taylor: They feel like nothing to sprint car to me. They feel honestly a lot like an outlaw cart. They're real erratic and they want to take off every other way than the way you want to point them. But the harder you drive them, the better they drive, which... doesn't really compute all the time. You know, it doesn't. It really is. So, yeah, yeah, I'd say that's the biggest difference. Like, like when I'm Corby: Craziest thing in the world. Craziest thing. Kade Taylor: in the sprint car, I'm really, really comfortable on the midget. Now that we've got the bars I want in the back, I'm getting that way. Like the last race I was real comfortable running it as hard as I run the sprint car. but there's just that factor of, they're the same. Jim Gardner: Hypothetically, what bars he got in the back? Kade Taylor: I would tell you, but I don't know if I'm supposed to tell. It's not my fault. Yeah, we're straight up now. I'll say that. I might text you bars after this. How about that? yeah, no, it's mainly that. It's the whole like going back and forth. It's just the like tricking your brain into Jim Gardner: I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take it. Okay, that makes sense. You don't have to. Sorry to cut you off. Corby: Going straight ups. Kade Taylor: still sailing this thing off in here, even though you don't have the grip that you feel. That's the biggest difference, I would say. And honestly, most of the time, After hot laps, you feel pretty comfortable getting to driving it without the wing instead of with it. Corby: I mean I'll I'll admit it I only drove a midget at the Chili Bowl a couple of years and it is if you ever have the feeling in a wing three five of just like lean to the right and it feels like it's working, that means it's going really, really, really bad in a three five car. And everything in a midget means like you're supposed to be laid over this way. I remember Jimmy told me we was pushing out for a heat race and he said that if you feel like you're too tight, I I don't even know which way he said, but he said just take the the left front knob and turn it to the left. And I'm like, bro, like that's that's the complete opposite of everything you ever told me. And he was like, everything you've ever learned, let it go. Kade Taylor: So I'll say that is the most frustrating thing going back and forth when I get into 305. I have no adjustments. Jim Gardner: Yeah. They're th they're backwards. Kade Taylor: And so I'll get out there and want to find two and I can't do it, you because that's part of like what we've kind of like since we've gotten more comfortable, Jim Gardner: Tool no tools. Yeah. Kade Taylor: the right bars in there and we started to fine tune his last couple of races. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Kade Taylor: He's really just trying to hit a window. And then once I get out there and burn it into a couple of corners, like I need to fine tune exactly what I want instead of trying to hit the mark right when you roll out. And that's the other thing, you know, with the tracks ever changing, you get to, instead of you adjusting the whole race and making it work, you get to adjust the car and try to keep it on kill on you the entire time. I do like that. I wish we had a wing slide or something. Jim Gardner: How I I go back and forth. I I'm pretty glad we don't have wing sliders in I like I Kade Taylor: Yeah. Jim Gardner: like for the fact that, you know, in the three five deal, you got what you got. it's only twenty laps and and and you you you need to put on good races, you need to have fast cars and then cars that are handling poorly. You know, I don't want the leader to miss it, pull the wing back, and then be able to just fend everybody off because everybody's so tight already on speed. Kade Taylor: Yes, good point. Jim Gardner: That I don't want the leader to be able to find a tenth if his car is just not as good, you know. and maybe that's just the Slim Pushins: Wing sliders would just be one wingsliders would be one more thing that Jim could beat himself up over after Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: a race. Jim Gardner: That and my driving, I've got a I've got fifty one problems. I don't need another one in the cockpit. But I you know, I just I I I get it, but at the same time, the three fives are in such a small box, like it's so competitive here that if Kade Taylor: Yeah. Jim Gardner: the guys starting on the front row don't have their car right, I want them to pay for it, you know. I want to give the guys an opportunity to pass. And and if it would be one thing if like you could just make more mistakes like you can in the three sixties and four tens to generate passing, but the three fives are so, you know, we talked about it being defensive and and being consistent and stuff like that that I really I really like how limited that, you know, you got what you got when you roll on the racetrack and sometimes you miss it and then then you're out to lunch, you know, can't do anything about it. And there's plenty of times I give Corby a shitbox and he just had to deal with it for 20 laps. So I get it. Corby: I th it's it's the rule of thumb, man, if y if Slim Pushins: Back there in the dog pound. Corby: if you got the the best car, the first five laps of a three five race, I promise you you will be junk at the end of that race. Jim Gardner: Gonna be in trouble. Yeah. And I'm sure that race last weekend being thirty laps long. I mean, it's a it's a adventure, you know, to to be able to to have to predict when the track's gonna go away. Or, you know, we were on Kennedale a lot. You know, Kennedale always takes a big swing. Now, sometimes it takes a big swing in heat races and sometimes it takes a big swing in the middle of the A main. But it always swing takes a big, big swing. And and part of the game is knowing when that's gonna happen and and being prepared for it. So, Kade Taylor: Well, honestly, with the point of this, like you're not wrong. You start giving guys like Colby, you know, guys that are consistently Jim Gardner: I don't know. I don't we we need less tools. So in the driver's seat. I Slim Pushins: You need less tools. Kade Taylor: fast that might miss about a little bit. Jim Gardner: Yeah. I I I I like I like the nuance of it. Corby: Man, whenever the the leaders well well when man, when the leaders are struggling to to lap someone running eighteenth, Kade Taylor: Yeah. Corby: that just proves just just how close the three five stuff is, man. like I said, I I keep I keep saying this about Kennedale and I don't think anyone's come from deeper than sixth and won a Kennedale race and I have no idea how long. So it's just that's just how close everyone is and that's how close power is and What we can do with shocks and the wings and like I said, it's just it's a good guess Kade Taylor: Yeah, definitely. Corby: whether you have the best car the first ten laps or the best car the last ten laps. Jim Gardner: Yep. So Kate, you ran you ran the BC thirty nine in the midget this year. I I'd love to hear your experience up there. Kade Taylor: Man that was For all of the spectacle that the chili bowl is that is the coolest race I've gotten to run. It was it was such a cool experience. my gosh Like they they for one they treat you like your cup drivers or indie Corby: I believe it. Kade Taylor: drivers, right? That that's the cool part about it. There's lots of pageantry to it. That was really really cool and they just put on a really Great event. We had a pretty good showing early. Still was trying to get comfortable, but in our heat we started up front and kept pace with Cannon and Second for a while. Then a caution came out and stacked us back up. And I got to race in with RTJ for third and drove away from him and then decided to drive through a hole in the last corner and almost flipped it and ended up third and he slipped by me. So that was the difference in us locking into the A the first night and being in the B and then The B was rough. The rest of the weekend was a bit of a learning experience, but, but no, we showed some speed and, I mean, just like, even if Jim Gardner: Yeah. Kade Taylor: you don't race midgets, like I encourage you to go to that race once, even if you're not going to race and you're just going to go check it out now, they're doing great things. There is a really, really cool place, a really cool race. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I I went up three years ago. three or four years ago with Scott Evans, just again, because we had a mid you know, he had a midget and wanted to go run it. and we were p awful. We couldn't enter the corner, we couldn't rotate the center, we had couldn't get any drive off of it. We just got our asses kicked. But Kade Taylor: But yeah. Jim Gardner: I did get a thumbs up from Roger Penske in the lineup shoot. And so my life, my racing life was pretty complete after that. But it is a cool deal. It's a little there's a lot of hoops to jump through Kade Taylor: Baring. Jim Gardner: and and and you know they're kind of long days and and but to be there in in turn three at IMS is is really cool. There's a lot of nuance. Now I can't believe they're running sprint cars there. I I have not been since they started running the sprint cars there, but I'm sure Kade Taylor: Yeah. Jim Gardner: that is just like racing in a bathtub. in a non-link sprint car there. But the midget deal is i is super cool and I'm glad they make it like a its own marquee standalone event, you know, right up there. You know, they're putting, you know, Justin Grant poster right next to the Indy 500 winner and the Brickyard 400 winner there on the big pillars going into the place. And it's just it's a little surreal. but I'm glad I'm glad you went up there and enjoyed it. Corby: Yeah, I I I'll say this, you know well, you know, that that's a cool place, you know. Sadly the Chili Bowl has such like prestige and there's like just dude, like if you're not Sammy Swindell or Kade Taylor: you Corby: Kyle Larson or Rico or Macintosh or Grant or someone like that walking in there like you're just a nothin' and I've heard like great things about B C thirty nine and how they've treated every racer, no matter if you're some dude that pulled a midget out of the weeds or you know, 'cause that's that's what's that It makes the Chili Bowl what it is. That's why you have so many entries and everyone should be treated the same. And I've I've heard great things about how they they do it there just a little bit different than how the chili bowl is. And I know like Chili Bowl, don't get me wrong, you can walk out there with your state, with your flag and all that stuff, Kade Taylor: Dan, it was different. Corby: but there's just There should be more than just the Chili Bowl. Yeah, you know what I mean? Kade Taylor: That's what they really do. Corby: The So Slim Pushins: Jeb said he's his claim to fame is he's the first ever to flip at the B C thirty nine. Kade Taylor: Yeah, cause he's like every driver's side and like they had like designated autograph sessions before the race one night where all the fans funnel through where you're at and, and lots of other things like that. that was just really cool. And like you said, cool for the fans, then cool Corby: Right. Kade Taylor: for us because there's definitely guys that don't get that kind of treatment ever. like have probably never autograph or had any kid come up to them and tell them how good they did. so like, that was honestly really, really cool Corby: Absolutely. Kade Taylor: that they did. And make everybody sit together too. You know the group that brought his up from Iowa's side. Dustin Grant, know at the autograph signing. It's not like it was all separated. Corby: That's it man and it's not that Jim Gardner: Yeah, yeah. Kade Taylor: You know they made sure to make sure everybody mixed in their mingle. Corby: Right. And that that that's that's huge, man, because it's not I'm not taking anything away from the chili bowl. Chili Chili Bowl is huge. Massive. It's always been. but you can you you feel very small when you walk inside of that building compared to the majority of drivers that are there. Kade Taylor: Yeah, would say that was the biggest difference walking into the pit meeting inside the building at Indy. You felt like you were getting ready to go run the Indy 500, not like you were just another guy. Corby: Right. Jim Gardner: Yeah. It's it's cool. I want to go back. That's that's one of the reasons I bought a shitty old midget is to just go to some of these cool events and be a part of Slim Pushins: Ha ha. Jim Gardner: so I I I'm glad yeah. I Slim Pushins: That's the spirit. Kade Taylor: Hahaha! Jim Gardner: I mean go out there and and hope that nobody knows your name at the end of it, you know. That's my goal at Chili Bowl. Yeah. Yeah. Corby: 'Cause you didn't end up being like Jeb, the first one to flip. Jim Gardner: Well, you know, look, at Chili Bowl, there's ten guys who can win it. There's a hundred guys that could be in the Saturday night A Main. There's two hundred no names and then there's a hundred people who Kade Taylor: Yeah. Jim Gardner: you only know their name 'cause they did something stupid or they're idiots, right? and the your goal is to be in that Slim Pushins: Jeb made the highlight real. Jim Gardner: center that center that center group. So anyway. Corby: Yeah, it's cool man and then like Port City and peop people say that, you know, midget racing is dying off. man, midget racing is so huge. it's not cheap. Depends on the how how much you want to go with it. but yeah, it's cool man and it you know Jim Gardner: I think it's I think it's coming back a little bit. The tire deal has kinda helped calm down the motor stuff, I think, a little bit. Katie, you could probably chime in on that. on what the competitive balance is in real midget Kade Taylor: Yeah, I mean we've had a lot of smaller tracks this year Jim Gardner: racing. Like Kade Taylor: So I feel like it's a little less magnified there, but even like it at BC, which isn't quite as small some of the tracks we've ran. It's pretty well a SR11 and Toyota game. Those new Stels are really, really strong. They run really well at a lot of places. And you know, if the track is small enough, the newer S-Lingers are strong. But Jim Gardner: Yeah. Kade Taylor: I don't know that it's necessarily gotten any cheaper. You know, if you want to be competitive and upfront, it's still kind of the same. equipment right now. Jim Gardner: Well that Corby: Man, like we could talk about price all we want, you know, dude, it's it's pfft thirty Kade Taylor: Mm-hmm. That's awesome. Corby: thousand dollars to build a brand new three five nowadays. You know, I mean it's it's considered race saver, you know you know, man, I I don't care who you are and and how much you want to go racing, dude if you want to show up with the best of the best, you can pour, you know, fifty thousand dollars into a three Kade Taylor: Mm-hmm. That's it. Corby: five motor to go run for five hundred bucks to win. You know? Jim Gardner: Yeah, it's sometimes I just don't like to think about how fiscally Kade Taylor: Right. Jim Gardner: irresponsible it is, but you know, it's still fun and we still wanna do Kade Taylor: Yeah. Jim Gardner: it, so it just won't bring up bring up cost that much. But anyway. so you got the midget this weekend. Are you guys planning more sprint car racing this fall this last month or not really? Kade Taylor: Hannan's we parked 82. We're going to start winterizing it and kind of getting the 305 ready to go next year. And then we're going to, hands, we got a second car that we're going to tear down and go through and we're going to build a 360 with it. And we plan on doing quite a bit of free 360 racing next year, honestly. so we're going to do a lot of that. I am going to run the, next RPM show on the 17th, Jim Gardner: Be cool. Kade Taylor: for Kevin and David. And maybe the 24th, I'm not sure yet on that one. But I am going to run for them on the 17th, so I will be there for that one, just not in 82. Yeah. Great. The 1M? Yeah. Jim Gardner: Okay. Okay. Kevin, which car are you running? Rami's car. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Yeah, okay. Yeah, I gotcha. Yeah, you oughta go pretty good in that piece. I would say. I would say they're gonna have it figured out for you there. no, that's a that's an awesome opportunity. I'm Slim Pushins: Yeah. Kade Taylor: Yeah, pretty excited. Yeah, 100%. I was excited and Kevin called me and man just trying to be a sponge there. I feel like I got a lot I can learn from him. Jim Gardner: Good. Yeah, he Slim Pushins: Never heard of it. Kade Taylor: Yeah, that's what I've been told. Corby: He's old and really grouchy, but he's really smart. Jim Gardner: Yeah you'll find out real fast, but he's yeah, he's man, he's he's forgot more about racing than the probably four of us have have combined, so learned about it. So that's good. Kade Taylor: Never deploy. Slim Pushins: Don't dump Dylan, Corby. Corby: touched him. God touched him. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. Dylan's run into everybody in the field, so he's got or Kade Taylor: I'm really relaxed. Jim Gardner: excuse me, Corby's run into everybody in the field, so he's got bad Corby: N No I haven't. Jim Gardner: blood with with Dylan and McK and McKenzie. Kade Taylor: You Jim Gardner: And so Corby: I McKenzie Slim Pushins: McKenzie Corby: still hates me for that. Yeah. Kev Kev well, Kevin was on Slim Pushins: McKenzie still hates him. She had some choice words and I absolutely loved it. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Corby: my side that night. He Dylan slipped off the bottom a couple laps in a row and I Kade Taylor: You Corby: I had to I had to stuff my nose in there so Jim Gardner: Cav yeah, Corby'll say, That's my line. That's your line. You gotta move me. Like Corby Kade Taylor: I've heard about that a little bit too. Jim Gardner: Corby likes to drive like it's a door slam in factory stock. So anyway, but Slim Pushins: Mm. Jim Gardner: yeah. Anyway. Slim Pushins: Jimmy UB I didn't tell you guys when I went up at RPM last two weekends ago. I went up to the you know, I was there by myself. I couldn't get Corby out there. So unloaded the four wheeler, drove up to the pit shack, and Miss Raimi was like, You scared the shit out of us. We watched you unload that thing. I was like, All right, okay. Jim Gardner: It's a trip. I I'm telling you, I was ready to dog cuss you as I was calling for help. Slim Pushins: I'm looking at trailers, Jim. Jim Gardner: Yeah, you need a trailer or I'll weld you up a as the best welder on the podcast, I will Kade Taylor: I gotta get to the track to see this before you get trailer. Slim Pushins: No. Jim Gardner: weld you up a nice a nice Corby: Yeah, clearly. Clearly. Jim Gardner: winch for it. Yeah, Corby: yeah. Jim Gardner: it's it's a show. Or stay and be the last trailer to leave, because that's Kade Taylor: You Jim Gardner: also Kerbo's MO. Corby: That's why I drive my own vehicle. Slim Pushins: Corby gets mad. Corby wants to drink beer, but then he gets mad when we drink beer. Corby: We could drink beer on the way home. Jim Gardner: No, that's illegal. Slim Pushins: Corby loads when Kade Taylor: Okay. Slim Pushins: Corby loads the four wheeler, he loads it like side saddle, like it's nothing. And Jim thinks that it's my death wish. Jim Gardner: It is. You didn't get to see, you know, it's like Cade and Hannah get to get to drive the same car and then talk about it, right? Because they get to see their car from the outside perspective, right? And me watching you from the outside perspective Corby: Okay. Kade Taylor: That's great. Jim Gardner: scared the shit out of me loading that thing in the back of your truck. And I'm sure when I started loading it, you thought I was gonna roll it over on myself. Corby: Yeah. Slim Pushins: No, I was mad that you wouldn't let me load Kade Taylor: Okay. Slim Pushins: it. But I'd also had a little Jim Gardner: Anyway. Slim Pushins: bit to drink, so Jim Gardner: Yeah. all right. So I wanna show Corby: Yeah. Jim Gardner: you guys something that happened at eighty one, either Speedway or Raceway last week. eighty one Speedway is the big track. Raceway is Warhurst go kart track, I think, right? there's this big crash with Stasa one of the Stasas and and I I'm I'm not sure how word yeah. Kade Taylor: Yeah, great. Corby: Jeff? Jim Gardner: Sorry I caught it late. Kade Taylor: Jeez. Slim Pushins: That was rough. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I recorded it late, but looked like look like Stas's left front got run over and it knocked the brakes out and he just steamrolled that that that wall. see it, Kerbo. But that wasn't the the you know, I'll everybody saw that one and then I found this one posted today. This is an in-car of it. And we at least have the drivers on this podcast. Watch this steering wheel, boys. Is there anything scarier than the steering wheel flying off mid-crash? Kade Taylor: All right. Corby: man. 'Cause I would know in my heart that that steering wheel came off well before the crash ever happened until I sat back and watched this video. Kade Taylor: Yeah, I have lost it Jim Gardner: Yeah. Kade Taylor: but not the wheel Jim Gardner: I've not Kate, have you ever lost a steering wheel in a crash? Corby: That's weird. That's Jim Gardner: Well first of well, first of all, let me go back. Are you guys able to see this? Corby: He doesn't have his fingers down there. I don't know if his like knees got up into the coupler. Jim Gardner: So like, first of all Corby: Dang, his hand's wrapped around the loop of the steering wheel. Huh is Hunter Stalson, not Jeff, okay. Kade Taylor: Okay. Okay. Jim Gardner: Yeah, it yeah, that was the first thing I saw was like, how does he not broken all his fingers driving a sprint car like that? And Hunter Stasa. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Okay. Thank you, Amber, for for clarifying. And we're not Slim Pushins: Way to go, Jim. I'm back. Jim Gardner: I knew I I I check before I pull any of these videos, I make sure nobody got hurt, right? And I think everybody's a little banged up, but they're okay. But Yeah, so had all sorts of restart calamity and you'll have that, but I've never seen a steering wheel come off the coupler. Corby: I wonder if it broke the top of the steering gear off or something. I don't know. That's wild. Kade Taylor: So. Thank Jim Gardner: Or if the steering wheel snapped. Corby: Right. Jim Gardner: I'm not entirely sure, but you know, we're we're kinda going through some of those and I was like, Man, that would scare the shit out of me. Slim Pushins: It's amazing what y'all see. I watched that a half dozen times, never noticed that the steering wheel came off like that. Corby: I don't know what K does. I I know like if we're fixing to go for a big ride like it's just always like turn your hands underneath. Just just hold on like that. No. It's it's over, we're dead. Jim Gardner: I'm still driving it. I'm still driving. I'm gonna drive out of this flip. Slim Pushins: Yeah he is. Kade Taylor: Yeah. The two times I've sailed Slim Pushins: Up up the wall. Kade Taylor: in there and went like this, and she went straight, and I just Jim Gardner: Kay, do you do the the arms thing, the indie car arms? Kade Taylor: locked her. Jim Gardner: Just indie Carmen. That's that's probably the safest thing to do is to just lock up and try not to lose your arms, Jeb style. Kade Taylor: Well in the outlaw carts when it hit, you know, it's just like direct steering and it didn't break one time and I hurt my wrist pretty good So I kind of made that a habit when I knew I was gonna wreck Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. You're big time in the outlaw card. So I was going through I was going through you won the big show this Kade Taylor: I won Friday's prelim. Jim Gardner: year, right before Chili Bowl, the one up in Oklahoma. Kade Taylor: So that race. Yeah, I find that you did. The one, the one I've won a bunch of big ones and that's like the one that's haunted me over the years. Jim Gardner: Well, I'm a jerk. I thought you won the big one. DNF Saturday. Sorry I brought it up. Back to you, Slim. Slim Pushins: Back back to you, Slim. Kade Taylor: I've been really close to winning it probably five or six times now and hadn't and this year or this past year and the year before pretty much the same exact result with 50 Lat Main event and I usually strategies kind of work my way into the top three ride till halfway because it's complete open reddit halfway make adjustments fuel, you know go at it got into third both years and was pacing and just lost the engine. Same spot, same place both years kind of kind of shitty. Jim Gardner: Ooh. Yeah, that's Slim Pushins: Thanks. Jim Gardner: So I didn't grow up, I didn't grow up in the outlaw cart deal. I grew Corby: Yeah. Jim Gardner: up in in Cincinnati and I was I raced in southern Kentucky, the flat cart deal. Corby: Yeah. Jim Gardner: And so this this crash here that I'm pulling up kind of hit home for me because this is something I would have done back in the day. So kid spins it out, and then Corby: Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: another kid here just comes and monster trucks him. But wait, there's more. Here comes a third kid. Slim Pushins: And then old Green Monster drives up over him. Still Kade Taylor: You Slim Pushins: in the gas, Corby Scherb style. Jim Gardner: Never yeah, right. Never lifts. That's his line. Still driving it. And so here, I w I'm gonna pause this there because this first kid in white. Yeah, Slim Pushins: Take that line from me. Corby: Thank you. Jim Gardner: take the you gotta you better move me. But this first kid from white that's about to hammer him, no gloves. And in fact, I think the kid in the blue's not wearing Corby: Don't need them. Jim Gardner: any gloves either. Like, what are we doing with these six year old kids? Slim Pushins: Wait a minute. Is right there is kid is kid in the white steering into him? What's happening? Corby: Is a white disappearing with that? Jim Gardner: Well, it's count I mean, those carts are pinned like sprint cars. You know, they you're you're sliding and trying to ride it out, right? So he's got it cocked sideways, but yeah, he's standing on the gas and Slim Pushins: Kid and Blue's parents had it right. He had a whole cage. And Green has a cage. That's why he didn't lift. Kade Taylor: You Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. And Corby: Look Jim Gardner: Yeah. When I was eleven years old I had a couple of crashes like that in my day and it was it was different. That was a different time, you know, the nineties. They were a little wilder time. But Slim Pushins: Look at that. Corby: at that. Kade Taylor: Yeah. Corby: Yeah. You wanna you wanna talk about that? Jason's still on here right now. You wanna you wanna talk about crashes when you were a little kid? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Well w we don't wanna talk about kids motorcycle crashes and losing Kade Taylor: . Slim Pushins: Prime example of looking where you are, where you're at and not where you're going. Jim Gardner: Yeah. anyway that was about all I had as far as some Kade Taylor: Yeah. Jim Gardner: some content stuff. I know I know Cade was a big cart guy. Slim Pushins: Jason Tyres said he didn't lose the steering wheel, but I seen Logan climb out of a sprint car on fire and never took the wheel off. I still have no idea how he did that. Jim Gardner: Yeah, we were that was bad. That was bad fire. Corby: It was pretty gnarly, Slim Pushins: Corby, didn't you drag Corby: man. Slim Pushins: him out? Corby: Me and Marcus were there and Jim Gardner: Marcus Thomas. Yeah. I didn't even know it happened. Next thing I knew, Logan's wife was sprinting by me going to the infield. Corby: Yeah. I don't know. There's two different stories of what happened. we had we had yeah, just just bought a Slim Pushins: Jim was busy looking at his notes, trying to beat himself up a while all the Scherb cars weren't running one through four. Corby: We just bought a spare car and it the belts latch with the right hand, not the left hand. All of our cars always latch with the left hand. And Logan also had a firebott on his car. Well his car he it wouldn't run, so he got in the spare car that night. We literally just bought this thing. And for Kade Taylor: 2. Corby: whatever reason the the fuel the fuel cell stopped venting and it was rubber down that night and the fuel cell basically like blew up and then blew the front cap out on its back. And exploded after the race was over. He didn't even crash. And I had broke or hit a tractor tire, one of the two, Kade Taylor: Yeah. Corby: I'm not sure, that night so I was standing in the infield. Jim Gardner: We know which one it was. Corby: And DJ pulled up on the scales Slim Pushins: Ha ha. Corby: and or or yeah, it was DJ, pulled up on the scales and was like frantically tried to get out of his car, and was like, dude, like you alright? And he's Dude, your brother's on fire, and I turn and look and I mean dude just flames everywhere. And I take off running Jim Gardner: Yeah, it's big. Corby: over there and he had he basically like lost vision and drove it to the infield of Kennedale and hit the infield wall and me and Marcus were there and we we drug him out of the car and he was on fire and it was the first night our dad ever made us wear the Nomix unders. So like for the life of us from now on we will the loss of the steel has his suit on display anywhere they go. we'll we'll always wear for sure. yeah Logan that Jim Gardner: You'll see it at Chili Bowl in their booth, like in the lineup shoot. You'll see it. It's still there. Corby: that's Logan's fire suit that Got got burnt up real bad. But I don't know. There's a hundred different ways of why it happened. from Logan thinking that there was a fire bottle there, like his gloves were down to nothing. it's just man, like fi fire is the biggest deal and yeah, I w we watched we drug Logan out of that car with the steering wheel still on, so don't don't think you can't get out of a sprint car with a steering wheel still on. We made him out. Jim Gardner: you ain't getting you ain't getting me out of my car with the steering wheel Kade Taylor: you Jim Gardner: on, I can promise you that. Kade Taylor: Yeah, okay. Jim Gardner: I can barely get out of it with the steering wheel out of it. I made the mistake of Corby: We can get Kate out. We can get him out. Slim Pushins: We can we can b we can barely get you in in without a Jim Gardner: I made this mistake of getting in Jeb's car to fire it off to check the timing and I couldn't get out of it. And it was I was like, good lord. Anyway, but Slim Pushins: It make you make you feel like a wallaby? Jim Gardner: so you got the midget going on this weekend, a couple more sprint car races. you have Chili Bowl lined out. You have what what all you got going on here to to wrap this up. Kade Taylor: I th we see we got the three midget races this weekend. couple races with Kevin, sounds like hopefully. I think we might go to De Coin with the midget, and then Chili Bowl. Jim Gardner: Nice. Kade Taylor: And then after that, we're gonna roll into next year and try to hit it pretty heavy in the three sixty. And obviously when I'm not racing, I'm gonna be trying to fill in every weekend I can with three or five shows or four or ten shows if anybody's got one those. Whatever. Jim Gardner: All right. Good deal. Who who are who's help yeah, Kade Taylor: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Anybody want a shout out? Jim Gardner: who's helping you get up and down the road here? Kade Taylor: Yeah, actually I do have a a list of people because obviously I I bounce around rides now. I don't own anything of my own, so it takes a lot to keep me going. But Southern Companies and JTX Forge, they're owned by Thomas and Jonathan Ivey. They have since I was ten years old in a outlaw cart supported me and they've grown with me over the years and they're a huge supporter of mine. There's no way I would be in any race cars without them. So those guys Vicki at Lone Star Supergas, she keeps keeps race fuel wherever I go, so she helps me out a ton. Kevin Kranzman with Southern Supply House. Trent at Rush Race Gear always keeps me in a good looking suit and shoes and keeps me safe. So shout out Trent for that. T F T G, Rusty and Robert. obviously Hannah's machine and prototype. Hannah put me in a car, and his plastic business, Mico Pl or yeah, Myco Plastics Inc. I know they do some stuff with smiley's, like they They make these torsion tube inserts. So that's pretty cool. You can get Jim Gardner: Okay. Kade Taylor: those from Smiley and you're helping support Josh there. Ace Pavement Solutions, they're coming on Jim Gardner: Okay. Kade Taylor: next year to help out. so they're a big help. And then like guys like Bill Roberts, who's been a big help for me, Josh Hawkins, who put me in a midget a couple years ago. Like without him, I wouldn't have got these opportunities or met Josh. there's probably some people that I'm definitely missing here too, but Yeah, I got a a lot of people in my corner that are trying to make sure that I get to keep racing and keep progressing. So I'm really thankful for all of them. And my wife, my goodness. Let me not forget my wife. Corby: Yeah, I know. Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: It's always good. Huge help. Jim Gardner: That's awesome. I didn't Josh made torsion Kade Taylor: Hang on, cause my wife, she sees a side of this that you guys, you and Jim, you know, you all race. She a hundred percent did. She's pissed. I'm in trouble when I get home. Slim Pushins: Ha ha ha. Corby: She already turned it off now. She already turned it off. She doesn't even listen anymore. Slim Pushins: She's she went to sleep. She's already in bed. Kade Taylor: Yeah, a hundred percent. But dude, she she's man, like maybe loves racing more than I do, which is A tough thing to say because I really love racing, but I mean everyone she can be at, she's at. She loves it. She stays late nights. There's nights she comes over to the shop with me here to work on the car. Like, I'd huge shout out to her because if she wasn't supportive, y'all know how much harder this kind of thing would be. Yeah. And Edward Jones of Gilmer. That's Jim Gardner: Understand that completely. So and my wife's a trooper too. My po Kade Taylor: what I was forgetting. Edward Jones of Gilmer. That's actually Jim Gardner: Okay. Kade Taylor: my wife's dad and stepmom. They they helped me out quite a bit with safety equipment. Jim Gardner: A good deal. Slim Pushins: Gilmer. There's a place there's a place in Gilmer Corby: Huge Slim Pushins: that s serves Pittsburgh Hotlinks. Is that place still there? Kade Taylor: I believe it is actually. I don't know the name of it. Slim Pushins: Can't remember the name Docks, maybe? Kade Taylor: Yes. Yes, I think it is. I think it is, 'cause we Slim Pushins: If you Kade Taylor: were going to one of Nathan's races a couple years ago and lost the engine in our truck right in front of that place. Slim Pushins: Dude, that's a great place to lose a motor. Corby: Course you'd be worried about food. Of course. Slim Pushins: Corby, Corby, if you and Jim if you and Jim have never had a Pittsburgh hotlink, it's Well I I work for a company that makes sausage and I can tell you this. A Pittsburgh hotlink is on a different level. Jim Gardner: out of respect, I'm not enjoying anything with the name Pittsburgh in it. Slim Pushins: It's different. Kade Taylor: Yeah. Slim Pushins: It's not Jim Gardner: I don't Slim Pushins: spelled the same. Jim Gardner: I don't care. Sounds the same. I Corby: Mm. Kade Taylor: Ha ha. Jim Gardner: ride I ride for the brand right here. So that's right. Slim Pushins: You're the only one. You and Icky Woods. Kade Taylor: Yeah, it's a tough life. Jim Gardner: Yeah. So but all right. Well that's awesome, man. Well, appreciate you coming on. especially last minute, you know, with Kade Taylor: Yeah, thanks for having me. Jim Gardner: the rain out last week, we're like, we should we should get some guys on who's been interesting. And I'm like, hey, this Cade Taylor kid's been standing on the gas all summer. Slim Pushins: Jim wanted a bunch of other people and Corey and I were like, Kay Kade Taylor: Yeah, whether he's winning or losing it, I guess. Slim Pushins: Taylor's the one. Jim Gardner: Kerbo's full of shit. I was like, no, I'm gonna get Cade Taylor. no, we're gonna try to, you know, we we had a lot of people on to start the year and then, you know, we we get to talk racing so much it gets too long and s you know, and and but now we wanna try to do what we initially planned to do is get get personalities and let people meet the drivers a little bit better than than just seeing them on Saturday nights. So, man, we really appreciate you You coming on and and chopping it up with us for a little bit. Sorry for some technical issues, but definitely come around and and and keep us updated on on how the midget stuff goes and and I think I'm gonna try to race ya not get lapped too quickly by you at one of these RPM shows to close the season out. Slim Pushins: He's got a habit of starting in the front, going to the back and then going back to the front. Kade Taylor: Yeah, I need to quit that. Need to hold on to the track position. Jim Gardner: who Cade does, not me. Yeah. Yeah. Slim Pushins: Yes. Corby: It's easier if you stay up there. Kade Taylor: Yeah. Yeah, you know we'll work half the night to get it. Jim Gardner: Yeah, that's right. So well we'll see you around plenty and Yeah. So we'll see you around plenty. We Kade Taylor: Yeah. Jim Gardner: really appreciate you being on and and and putting up with us for a little bit. So thank you very much. Kade Taylor: No doubt. Thanks for having me guys and like yeah, no appreciate it. Corby: Good luck this weekend dude, man go chase some midget stuff. I know not many Texas guys are still doing that. Kade Taylor: Yeah, no, we're gonna do our best and if you guys ever want me Slim Pushins: That's awesome. We'll be we'll be watching you. Kade Taylor: back, just let me know and yeah, I know for sure. And you know, don't be so unopposable with racetrack, Slim Pushins: Nobody ever wants to come back. Kade Taylor: Jim. Jim Gardner: I'm gonna try not to, but Slim Pushins: See? Jim Gardner: I gotta run better. Kade Taylor: Ha ha Slim Pushins: Mr. Jim Gardner: I've been better Slim Pushins: Unapproachable. Jim Gardner: this year because of the stupid podcast. You know, Corby: yeah, for sure, it's the podcast's fault. Jim Gardner: before before the podcast. That's right. That's right. So anyway. But well, we appreciate Slim Pushins: Now he's got people just coming up to him that he's never met before just to talk because we'd sending everybody his way. Kade Taylor: Yeah. That's perfect. That's perfect. Jim Gardner: we appreciate the time, man. tell Josh who said hey and sorry for Corby driving into him a bunch. And we'll be seeing you guys here in a couple weeks, but good luck this weekend, both. Kade Taylor: Absolutely. Thank you guys for having me. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Nice point. Slim Pushins: Thanks everybody for being on another week. Jim's gonna get all the technical stuff figured out and his mic. Corby's gotta go wash his hair. Corby: No dude, I gotta cook dinner. Kade Taylor: Yeah. Corby: It's eight thirty. Jim Gardner: Yeah. All right. Kade Taylor: Yeah. Slim Pushins: That's what he says. He's got to wash his hair and shave. Thanks everybody. Jim Gardner: We'll get out of here. Thanks, kid. Corby: See you guys. Kade Taylor: Ayos.