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What the Altered Boys Are Playing Right Now · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: You love. Let's go col But what's going on? Everybody?
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  Speaker 1: I'm the one, the only the w o o kay
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  Speaker 1: I you joined here by the normal cast of misfits.
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  Speaker 1: We do have the kid that knows more than you,
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  Speaker 1: mister Cole. Robbie was the kid that knows less than you. Dexter,
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: Hello everyone, so a little delayed today. And the guy
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: with the godlike hair.
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  Speaker 2: Felix, I'm losing to Cole.
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  Speaker 1: What Cole has godlike hairs.
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  Speaker 3: Playing a game on board game Arena.
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  Speaker 1: It's because he knows.
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  Speaker 4: More, exactly, because that's what you do during a podcast,
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  Speaker 4: you just play behind your screen.
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: He knows more than you, but he is not smart
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  Speaker 1: enough to use his insider information to use it to
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  Speaker 1: his advantage. True, or he chooses not to.
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  Speaker 5: I all, yeah, probably a little more.
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  Speaker 2: He uses his.
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  Speaker 1: Power for good, not for evil or something like that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not the not the type to uh game the
• 1:36
  Speaker 5: system and use that knowledge the uniques.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. See that's this is why. So you're the reason
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: why he won't give us all the information. Dexter. Well,
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: we'll get to that in a minute. We'll get to
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: that in a minute. But quick update to everybody, Singleton
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  Speaker 1: and now no unique modes are now live on bg
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  Speaker 1: A for your deck builders, So uh, go play altered
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  Speaker 1: the way it was intended to be played with no
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  Speaker 1: uniques Singleton. Singleton's fine too, Nah.
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  Speaker 5: Play play Singleton instead of no unique Unique.
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  Speaker 1: Play no uniques.
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  Speaker 2: Until we get exalted, and then that's unique more.
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  Speaker 3: Fun because for some of the heroes you can have
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  Speaker 3: five uniques, you gotta play some more unique era five
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  Speaker 3: unique Singletonians Over.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, I could punch myself in the face and I'd
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: be all right too. I'm like I said, I've already
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: told you guys my ability to play games. I don't
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: like uniques. I think they bring a bad flavor to
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  Speaker 1: the game, and some people like them. And you want
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  Speaker 1: to know what, that's fucking okay. We're allowed to all
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: have our own opinions, so I know that's a weird thing.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty six, we should all think, like Dexter,
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  Speaker 1: everybody play the meta or you're a donkey.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're not playing meta, you're not winning.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 3: If you're not winning, let's let's move for fun.
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  Speaker 2: Fun.
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  Speaker 1: What's there.
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  Speaker 5: There's there's a couple. There's a couple quick notes for
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  Speaker 5: the no Unique and the Singleton no Unique is no
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  Speaker 5: Unique straightforward, but you can now pick them both in
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  Speaker 5: the deck builder and join a Q on BGA to
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  Speaker 5: play those formats. The thing you need to know about
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  Speaker 5: singleton is it's not how the Italian tournament has been running,
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  Speaker 5: which has become the popular. Like singleton up until now,
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  Speaker 5: Equinox put out their own rules and limitations and the
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  Speaker 5: deck size is fifty nine cards with no rare limit.
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  Speaker 5: The only limit is you can only have one rarity
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  Speaker 5: of the the card name each I said that poorly,
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  Speaker 5: so like you can have one common, one rare, and
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  Speaker 5: one unique of the same character.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so literally a single copy of each card, not
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  Speaker 4: name but each card yep.
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  Speaker 5: And then, as Dexter mentioned, different heroes have different unique limits,
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  Speaker 5: and Sierra has five, which is the highest, including Arak
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  Speaker 5: and Moyo Lindaway, so those could be a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 5: And then the best heroes, of course, only are allowed
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  Speaker 5: three Asia, Kojo, Basira, Siggi, Novenka, fan Trace. There's some
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  Speaker 5: debate on Novenka having only three, but I think it's
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  Speaker 5: totally fair. With the kind of uniques that Novenka can run,
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  Speaker 5: I think she does not need to have them free.
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  Speaker 3: I think it makes sense that three or four. One
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  Speaker 3: thing that I found interesting for the no Unique mode
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  Speaker 3: is that they're allowing exalteds still, so when the next
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  Speaker 3: set comes that you can still play Exalted in no
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  Speaker 3: Unique mode. I'm trying to have them for placeholders instead of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: None of the exalteds they've released so far seems superbusted,
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  Speaker 3: so it should be fine. They're just a lot rarer.
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  Speaker 1: I know, you just we will.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, we will be answering that question at the end
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  Speaker 5: of today's episode. Actually, so if you want to hear
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  Speaker 5: some thoughts about what we think on Exalted cards, stick
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  Speaker 5: to the end of the episode.
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  Speaker 1: That's your full Uh what am I looking for? Full
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  Speaker 1: Spike mode was.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I'm always in that mode.
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: But Bookie was going to tell us, what, what is
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  Speaker 5: the main topic of today's episode?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's a lot we're still kind of
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  Speaker 1: what mid mid transitioning into the next season, right, So
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: we decided to go with what are we all playing right?
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  Speaker 1: Kind of a recap reset right right before next set?
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  Speaker 1: Kind of well, what's the expected date for that February? Right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's It's almost as if our last episode re
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  Speaker 5: recorded went over all of these dates.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I had the timeline like in detail, bruv.
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  Speaker 1: I'm mad with dates, times and names. I can. I'll
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  Speaker 1: get your face thirteenth, I will remember, I am facing.
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  Speaker 1: I will forget your name like a million ten percent,
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  Speaker 1: and like, but I'll be like, how do I know you?
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  Speaker 1: It just happened to be this weekend at my wife's
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  Speaker 1: kind of uh, I guess I don't want to know.
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  Speaker 1: It's her Christmas party for the school, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: how do I know that guy? I know I know
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  Speaker 1: him from somewhere. I just don't know where. But that's
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  Speaker 1: neither I nor her.
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  Speaker 5: But anyway, Yeah, I am bad with names as well.
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  Speaker 5: Do you want to give your disclaimer so that you
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  Speaker 5: don't feel bad for this episode? Wikie? Tell the people
• 7:32
  Speaker 5: your struggles of the past couple.
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  Speaker 1: Months my struggles as far as well. Yeah, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: played any games, so I mean, I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: a struggle. It just it's it's a part of life, right.
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  Speaker 1: We all run through the hills and valleys, right, and
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  Speaker 1: especially you know, like you guys, maybe Felix, you have kids, right,
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  Speaker 1: If I remember correctly.
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: So an eight year old current.
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  Speaker 1: So like you and Dexter can't so much, you know,
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: attribute what the holiday season is, especially once you know,
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: we get into like Thanksgiving and then afterward. But it's
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  Speaker 1: a tough time for parents and you know, people that
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  Speaker 1: work retail. It is a very busy, busy, busy time.
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  Speaker 1: So it just is what it is. I haven't played.
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  Speaker 1: So when was KFC nextter?
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  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I was late November, November twenty something like that.
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: Try early November. It was the first weekend of November,
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  Speaker 1: was it, Yeah, it was. It was November sixth seven, November.
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  Speaker 1: So I haven't played anything. I haven't played Key Forge,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't played Altered. I haven't played I've told you guys,
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  Speaker 1: I hadn't even played a video game, like on my
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: cell phone right, just like Board to Tears somewhere, just
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: like scrolling through video games. I haven't even done that.
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  Speaker 1: So it is what it is. You know. Twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: six is looking up. Maybe I'll be able to get
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  Speaker 1: out and about a little more often. I'm hoping so
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  Speaker 1: right like, I'm hoping to maybe get to a thing
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  Speaker 1: or two in twenty twenty six for both Altered and
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  Speaker 1: uh and uh while I'm drawing total me and KeyForge.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, here we go. But you know, I mean,
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: what am I playing? Let's listen, we already know you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. I always have a Lyra ready.
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: It's you know what, it's literally on my desk right now.
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: I turn on my camera and show you guys. But
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  Speaker 1: it's already in my already in my thing that's recording this.
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  Speaker 1: But I always have I always have Lyra ready period
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  Speaker 1: out of story. It's it's always ready to go. Unless
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  Speaker 1: I'm meeting Dexter somewhere. He will hand me a pile
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  Speaker 1: of cards that resembles a deck and then thrash me
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  Speaker 1: with his insanely meta deck.
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  Speaker 5: Right Dexter, yep, you'll you'll already next event in a
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  Speaker 5: couple of weeks or whatever you got.
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  Speaker 1: I am not going to Necho.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to be lame and not going to go
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  Speaker 3: to Necho.
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  Speaker 1: I am not going to go. Yeah, I had plans
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  Speaker 1: to go to Necho. That kind of just fell through.
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  Speaker 1: It just it is what it is. It's not like
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  Speaker 1: I said, not a big deal. I mean that goes
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  Speaker 1: fun right like I'm sure I've never been and this
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  Speaker 1: is the first time. I was going to go in
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  Speaker 1: to Necho, but like it just the plans just kind
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  Speaker 1: of fell through. It's not again, not the end of
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  Speaker 1: the world. There'll be more of a I promise. When's
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  Speaker 1: the next big one? Are they gonna do something at
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  Speaker 1: like packs for for Altered?
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  Speaker 5: Oh how about we just don't dive into that right now.
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  Speaker 5: A couple seconds ago, you had the perfect segue. You said,
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  Speaker 5: Dexter always beats you with a meta deck.
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  Speaker 1: I forgot my deck when we last me and Dexter
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  Speaker 1: last played. I'm like, ah, ship, I left it back
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  Speaker 1: at I literally left it back at the hotel, and
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  Speaker 1: he's like, I have an extra deck. You want to
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  Speaker 1: play anyway?
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  Speaker 3: I gave you a very decent a Faunas deck.
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  Speaker 1: He did not.
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  Speaker 3: My Faunas was just not quite as good as my
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  Speaker 3: Tasia whipped the ship up. I had two decks. One
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  Speaker 3: was better.
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  Speaker 1: It was it was like I.
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  Speaker 3: Told you beforehand that the Tasia deck was better.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 5: It was.
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  Speaker 1: Like watching a pro team go up against the high
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: school team. Like it was just like the value like.
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  Speaker 2: One of the.
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  Speaker 4: He's like one of the kids in my Pokemon league.
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  Speaker 4: He just learned one of the children. He's like eight,
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  Speaker 4: He just learned how to play the game. So he
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  Speaker 4: build a deck for his dad with no energy cards.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of how his dad just played the
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  Speaker 3: deck without looking.
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  Speaker 2: That dad just learned how to play and he didn't
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  Speaker 2: know what he was doing with no energy cards. He
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  Speaker 2: knew what he was doing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. So the kid did it on purpose?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, Oh yes, you can see it in his face.
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  Speaker 1: That's hilarious. That's really so. Yeah, that's what deck.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I've been playing them that have been playing
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  Speaker 3: lots of Basira, lots of pretty much just what you're
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  Speaker 3: seeing on thirty nine cards. I'm playing that. Maybe I
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: switch a few cards out depending on how I'm feeling
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  Speaker 3: on the day, but I pretty much play what I
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  Speaker 3: see is winning on thirty nine cards that I like.
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  Speaker 3: I played a little bit of Kojo too, but to
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  Speaker 3: I'm not very makes.
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  Speaker 5: You feel included in the episode. You play a lot
• 13:24
  Speaker 5: of Trace. How do you think the grams should be eratted?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, the Grims is fine. The Grims isn't a problem.
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  Speaker 3: It's a really freaking good card. Okay, sacrifice to make
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  Speaker 3: a bug. No, it is a really strong card. I
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  Speaker 3: think maybe paying one would make it balanced for the
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  Speaker 3: rear of the common version. I mean the Common is
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  Speaker 3: what I play generally, and it is very busted. Just
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: cutting up a one. Yeah, increased reserve cost by one,
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  Speaker 3: or maybe make the reserve trigger increased by one so
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: you have to pay one to activate one of its triggers.
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  Speaker 3: I I don't think it's so busted that it would
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  Speaker 3: need to be erodded. I think it's it is a
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  Speaker 3: very strong card the way that it is, but well,
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  Speaker 3: here to some very strong cards.
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  Speaker 5: It is going to be erotted though.
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  Speaker 3: Is it on the watch list?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? I watch list currently.
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  Speaker 3: No, and that doesn't mean that it's going to be erotted.
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  Speaker 3: Just's a watch list.
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: I will say it's very high on the watch list.
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  Speaker 5: If there were maybe a ranking of cards that need
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  Speaker 5: to be changed.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I I think adding a you have to
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: pay one cost to discard a permanent or make a
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  Speaker 3: bug and it would be perfectly balanced.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think one of them, whether it's the rare of
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  Speaker 5: the common, I think they need to have one of
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: their abilities removed. The fact that you can do either
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: or is pretty strong. Also, I think there's some kind
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: of weird issue with like my setup or something, and
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: I feel like you guys are hearing me a second
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  Speaker 5: after I talk. So normally we are very great at
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: talking over each other. But I promise not as it
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: seems the last two episodes. I don't know. My computer's
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: getting old. I think it's slowly dying.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Oh one comments about how we talk over each other,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: and just oh, man, happens all the time.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: We can hear you. Just fine, It's it doesn't seem
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  Speaker 3: like it's on a delay to me.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it just seems like you guys answer me back
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  Speaker 5: delayed more than normal. So it's I've caught myself tripping
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: up a couple of times. But anyways, that's what Dexter does.
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  Speaker 5: What he already kind of gave his backstory on. You know,
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  Speaker 5: he hasn't played. He has a family, has a Lyra deck.
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  Speaker 5: Dexter sometimes gives him a deck with no energy cards
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  Speaker 5: and Felix, what have you been playing? Felix? And what
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  Speaker 5: do you want to say about this issory?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Is there a is what I'm really playing right now,
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  Speaker 4: mostly because I had a bunch of uniques that require
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  Speaker 4: to landmarks in play, and she generates a landmark pretty
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  Speaker 4: much every other day. And that was pretty much a
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  Speaker 4: catalyst for that, and I'm heavy. I think a ton
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  Speaker 4: of fun with it, like a lot.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So for the people listening, I would say, if I
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  Speaker 5: were to look at your deck from a like competitive standpoint,
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: and the only reason I say that is I obviously
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: am not the strongest competitor, but I watch a lot
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  Speaker 5: of games from casting, I would say the interesting picks
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  Speaker 5: that you have in your issory are the three Little Pigs,
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  Speaker 5: the machine in the ice, and then everything else except
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: for maybe Kellen Burst are are pretty pretty spot on.
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  Speaker 5: So how how do you feel about those kind of
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  Speaker 5: somewhat off meta choices.
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  Speaker 4: So I went with three Little Pigs because it's basically
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: a three man of five five five, which is big
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  Speaker 4: and is from anywhere, so I just had to give
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  Speaker 4: it a try, and it's been working pretty well when
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: it comes to leveling out both sides of the expedition.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I put in machine in the ice for two reasons.
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  Speaker 4: One it works is in after you is by paying
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  Speaker 4: one mana, which is really nice. I have a lot
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: of one MANA and one hand MANNA cards because they
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: let they work as pseudo after you use, and because
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: is there race supplies with her airlift. If that shows
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: up at the end of it turn, it comes in
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  Speaker 4: ready on your next day, and it's a three mana
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  Speaker 4: five three five, So it's overstated too. I'm mostly running
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: three Little Pigs and machine in the ice because they're
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  Speaker 4: overstated for their costs. And then if you use I'm
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: using three copies of the station. I think it's a
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: station whatever that is. I forget the name already. Yeah,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: the resupply station thing, so it removes their fleeting and
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: then you just got another oversted dude next turn, So
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  Speaker 4: that works really nice, so.
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  Speaker 3: You may you mainly use them on the three little.
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  Speaker 8: Pigs nostocking station. I use it on the uniques. I
• 19:23
  Speaker 8: use it on this sabbatter I forgot his name already.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: That you can sacrifice a permanent sabotages.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the puppeteer that well, the puppeteer, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Music puppeteer.
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  Speaker 4: I have a couple of uniques that go off whenever
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: they're do stuff from the reserve, so you can do
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: them multiple times.
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  Speaker 2: I would have loved to use.
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  Speaker 5: Your is very good. Do you want me to read?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So it's a four from hand three from reserve two
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  Speaker 5: to three, and it has when I leave the expedition zone,
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: draw a card. And when I leave the expedition zone,
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: if you control two or more landmarks, draw a card.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, that is very very good with a restocking station.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: And the stocking station is one of the cards that
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: the community feels like is too strong. But I don't
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: believe it was on the watch list or is on
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: the radars being too strong.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think it's a great card. Yeah, it seems
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  Speaker 3: balanced to me.
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  Speaker 4: It's really really fun because I'm running the engineer.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I think it's a fund re engineer, and.
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  Speaker 4: Her supportability reduces the costs of the next permanent and
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  Speaker 4: resupplies pretty much place. Yeah, mechanics, you haven't my names,
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: but the mechanic just makes it cause zero.
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  Speaker 2: It's just literally just an after you.
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  Speaker 5: Wonderful? How have the game has been with it? And
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: I'd like, what what are your big weaknesses.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Right now?
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  Speaker 4: I don't have ways to deal with a massive amounts
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  Speaker 4: of characters, like dealing with Mortis with a bunch of
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: the tokens.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: That's a problem, dealing with in.
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  Speaker 3: An avalanche instead of one of those rare booms.
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  Speaker 2: I was tempted to I was tented.
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  Speaker 4: To me, it actually works really well for the fact
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: that if you pitch the jammer, it discards something and
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: then it's sabotages when you use it with the arrow
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: lif and resupplies, so and it deals because it's not
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: costs restricted.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: It can deal with anything and it discards them. Yeah,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: so that to me, that's a big deal. Oh that
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: is true.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say instead of switching Boom, I would
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: go down a copy or two.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: I can't prefer Burst in common, but I could see
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: how you like it since you're always having two landmarks
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: pretty much.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just trying to run their common one and
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: they're rare, and the rare was just subjectively better. It's
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: basically a two mana removal that creates a two to
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: two mana.
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: Mm hmm.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: But that's probably the one I've been looking at to
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: maybe reduce SEA.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: I think that's probably though probably well too.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, really able to. I had to use the rare.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: The common one didn't work as well, but the.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Rare one it's just a five six six from hand
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: and a three four four from the reserve for three.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: It was just pure status was overstated too from both sides.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: And then uh one one, we haven't really mentioned the
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: arrow li Reef. It's it's a really good card as well,
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: especially removable.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Training and counts as a landmark.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why were running the training too. That's why
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: we're running the three mechanical trainings for the for the jammer,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: for the reef, for the resoccer station, for the sack.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: So there's a lot of there's a lot of permanence
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: that you can target with it.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, mechanical training has had kind of a pretty big
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: resurgence as of late in an axiom, so it's it's
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: been doing pretty well.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me see what other car was a big deal.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I'm using Dexter's unique.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: He's oh that okay?
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I always have to land marks. I'm always going
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: to draw a card with it.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, getting draw is always good.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Demolition Expert works pretty well too from both ways.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: So I'll try and removing some of the keylons to
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: try something else.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I guess I finally got used.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: What are you playing?
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Seven different decks and this.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: One was five?
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: I will I will explain the number the general my decks,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: and then I'll let Felix and Dexter uh tear them
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: apart how they want. So I think, by far my
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: my strongest deck right now is my Parvati Asia. I
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: think I can also say that I'm like the only
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: person playing a deck like this, which is uh an
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: honor it is. It is good though, like I'm not
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: even just making stuff up. It's it's very good for
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: a moona deck that's not mass Anchor, because not all
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: of us can afford mass Anchor. My RC deck, I
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: think is one of the best ROC decks. I think
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: it's very fine tuned. Uh, there's maybe I think I
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: consider one or two slots kind of variable. So in
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: the variables slot right now, I have or Boros Trickster,
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: which can easily be switched around Lyra Contortionist. You can
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: also switch if you want. And then I play Wayfarer
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: in Novenka and I absolutely do not play the rare.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: The rare is stupid. You play the common and you
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: draw a bunch of cards. This one has one or
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: two variable slots as well. I would call the variables
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: Silent Night and Lyris Signet right now. But basically the
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: concept is is you just roll as many dice as possible,
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: as often as possible, and you draw a bunch of cards,
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: and then my No Unique even though I don't really like.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: You've got so many different decks here.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: I know we don't have time to tear apart every
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: single one by piece.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Did you.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: I do not like the Bashi Bastian is not good.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: Just play Martin Gill.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Like the Lost in the Woods in your moon A deck.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: Why don't I Lost in the Woodards? Old news? But
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: if Dexter listened, what I said is I'm going to
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: run down the concept of each deck real quick, and
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: then okay, okay, So I I don't like No Unique,
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: but I play in it to help the tournament numbers,
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: help out the you know friends over there, a bunch
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: of a bunch of good people. I think it's actually
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: a very good no Unique deck, and I think Rin
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: is also pretty good and no Unique, and then I
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: have a Flying Dockyard Soul, which I really like. The
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Rare is a ton of fun, giving boosts and creating
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: arrow lifts, and that one's not super refined, but it's
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: just fun. And I technically do have a Well of
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: Tears Moyo deck, but it's far too like in the
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: testing phase still, and I think it's not going to
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: be good until next step. So though, that's what I'm
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: playing pretty actively right now.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: All five of those.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: Yep yep I have at any moment eight to ten
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: turn based games going all day, all the time.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: So you're all, oh, Muna Lyra and uh some bravos.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Any reason why you're staying away from the other factions.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: Uh So, I don't know, Uh, I just just the
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: ones that pop out to you that are fun. I
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: play every faction except for Ortis basically.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, no surprise there.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah you said you had a Moyo.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I have a Moyo, and it's just kind
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: of still in the testing face. For the Novenka though,
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: I specifically call it Wayfair and Nevenka because that is,
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: you know, what the build around is. For the most part,
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: this list, though, could be good without Wayfer. I would
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: not put the back in this list because that would
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: be too many permanents. But if you wanted, you could
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: get rid of the Wayfair and slot in the Bastionians.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: And if you look at my Nansi, it is very
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: good if you have a landmark, but it is not
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: necessary to have a landmark.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's still pretty good, though.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I remember running the Wayfair with a Bastionian, I only
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: run maybe one or one copy of it because I
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: drew it.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Then it almost increases your chance too fold to draw
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: cards with it.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, at the time, my philosophy on landmarks is with
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: a landmark like Bashi or I mean both Bastians Munabastian
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: and the Lyra Bastian, basically the turn that you play
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: them is going to be dead. Otherwise you're playing it
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: too late, like if I have eight MANA and I
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: get a Bastion', it's just too late, like I might
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: as well not even play it. So in this deck,
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: since Wayfarer is the landmark, I wouldn't want to have
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: hypothetically two dead turns, one playing the Bastion and one
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: playing the Wayfir. But I do think.
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: This deck.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: Is good enough. How it is that you could totally
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: just swap the landmarks if you don't want to play
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: around with the Wayfarer and I believe I posted this
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: one on Patreon so you can see the list in
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: some of my considerations. Did I post an ven card?
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: Did I post I'm pretty sure I posted Noventka on Patreon.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: Ya and my arac I have a video of it
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: on my YouTube.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: So why don't you write, Ah, that is a good question.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the wren.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Not as important, but still a solid card.
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: It is.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: You are correct in that regard. The Wren probably.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Has I don't really like your daughter.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: Well, uh, it was converted from a Loki deck, so.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: I see. Yeah, having something big is always good too.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think in this day age. Well, yeah, because
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: it's a it's a little bit of a ramp because
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: you have hydres.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Andrew WRENN gotcha.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Yep, yep, same reason why there's bountiful Meadows. And yeah,
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: this kind of setup with RIN it does work pretty
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: well in no Unique. I would say the version of
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: WRIN that's maybe a step above this one is a
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: send Wrin, which has been doing really well lately, so
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: you could go that route instead. Well, this is just
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: kind of my version. And as for.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: I have not had much experience in the no Unique meta,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: so I don't really know what kind of stuff does
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: well there. If you could give a little bit of
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: insight into that specifically, like I mean no Unique meta.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't pretend like I have a grasp on
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: the meta either. I just know from my experience N yeah,
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: it does pretty decent. I think with no unique it
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: kind of can go either way, and there's a lot
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: of different no unique tournaments and different rules and things
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: like that. I think it's the same as like with Singleton,
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Kojo is always going to be good and then from
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: there there's usually some diversity. There was a period of
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: I think there actually are stats on this. Let me
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: go to their discord. I think rum Folk does the stats.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: But your question about cloth Cocoon, it's just not really
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: used in Muna anymore.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: I said, Lost in the Woods, not cloth Cocoon.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: Oh, both, but they don't really play of them.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, in since mood To was meta, so I
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: don't know anymore.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yep. That's the hard part is it's not very
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: meta unless you have very good uniques. Let's see, does
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: he I thought he had an overview of the details,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: but maybe not.
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: Ask free loader, but I think it kind of mirrors
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: Singleton a little bit. Bravos just has very good card
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: access right now, so they're kind of hard to be
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: especially in alternate formats. So I would say one of
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: the best things that I did with my Parvadi Tasia
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: is I added a rare manna reaping and the amount
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: of times that catches people off guard is pretty nice.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: So I used to hate those kind of removal spells,
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: but I've kind of swallowed them down because it's pretty
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: necessary in muna, especially if you're going against other muna
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: who gets a hydro out.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: How can you use the rare caregiver? In other comments?
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: You can do something else the rare.
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: Oh, I don't.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: I just don't know if there's anything else that I
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: want at rare, honestly.
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: And.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: It gives you the anchored ability, and with Tasia it's
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: a really good turn one because with Tasia. Yeah, honestly,
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: I think my Harvodi deck is probably my strongest deck
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: right now, and I don't think I would change very much.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: I'll be honest and say that I don't really know
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: how much I love Colorful Cuckoo. I think it's good,
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: but it's very situationally good, so I may at some
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: point take it out the rare verse. The comment is
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: the rare you can use twice?
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess so, since you you're not hurting for
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: rare slots and this deck, so that makes sense.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's only one and then I get two
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: uses out of it. So yeah, okay, all right, what else?
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: What else do you want to try to tear apart?
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: I really like your rick. Everything about your ARC deck
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: looks like perfect RC to me.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: Yep, yep. It's just.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: So you know, No martingale in arac Now, Martin Gale's
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: a nice one drop.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: So all right, Uh, there's there's a video on my YouTube,
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: like I said, going over my RAC deck. But for
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: the for the podcast, I'll kind of explain my thought
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: process behind it. So for a very long time, people
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: approached ARAC as like what are the biggest and greatest
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: hits that I can get with my ability? And you know,
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: they were wanting to do mind apatheosis or winter Nova
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: or a Hydra or something like that. And I always
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: thought that was way too risky of a strategy, and
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: a lot of the times it just went very poor.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: So I built a deck that's basically get as many
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: counters as you can so that you're pulling more often.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: And basically every single card is okay if you pull
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: it off of the ROC ability. So the only ones
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: that I would say are not okay to pull off
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: of the ability are Tanuki and if I have Sandman, Yeah,
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: I do have Sandmen. Those you don't want to pull
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: off a ROC because they're from hand abilities don't trigger. Yeah,
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: but those are the only two, and in a worst
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: case scenario, if I have to put those out for stats,
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: I will everything else. It has a from anywhere ability
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: or it's just good to put into expedition, and it
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: will also net me a trigger uh for racing uh
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: from guitarist and data lists.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, data is a big one.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Oh data list too, Okay, Yeah, I see that. Okay,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: but then even.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: Then, bliss Fan and Snowman and stuff like that are
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: a really good early places. I think the one that
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: I could easily switch out and not carry is the Trickster,
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: but it has a from anywhere ability, so it's good
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: in that regard. It has zeros. My biggest hit is
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: the Hydra, which if I just get it too early,
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: I just manna it. And Small Step Giantly, which I.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Just step is so good. I love small Step in
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: our It's so fun.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Just move now.
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: It is very good in rac I would probably say
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: it is the only hero that is worth playing Small
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: Step anymore. I have one games off of it, but yeah, uh,
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: it is seemingly pretty good for a rack.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: We're doing a tournament right now, that's all a ROC.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: So we'll see if I win or not. I might
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: uh lose to his build is I haven't won yet?
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: So what about hostage moyos? He needs to play small step?
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: A guy trying. We do not talk about hostage decks
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: on altered Corner. Sorry, but no, you're right hostage decks
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: in summer guard? Do you play small step?
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: The other thing I'll say about the rock?
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: What do you mean continue on the rac?
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: I think one of the biggest things that people sleep
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: on that's in the rock is rare nihala, and I
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: don't I swear, I don't see many other people do it,
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: so I don't know if they've just never considered it.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: But since you can, yeah, since you can order the
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: triggers that you want. You exhausted resupply first, see if
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: what you exhausted resupply you would prefer in your hand,
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: and then if not, you just switched the other card
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: that you are going to switch. And then usually I'm
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: putting something like hathor or guitarists or contortionists or something
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: like that in reserve, willow wisp if I need it
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: to go in reserve can be a good one because
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: it's very easy sometimes to play Nihala and actually have
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: a bad switch and rare kind of cuts that possibility
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: down a lot.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: More So, when did you change your mind on X
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Marks the Spot? I remember back when we were talking
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: about spoilers, you didn't like X Marks the Spot at all,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: but you've got three of them in your Novenka.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: Because it's wayfair and novenka. So yeah, yep, I will say.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: The the hardest part about X Marks the Spot is
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: it feels like it should be a spell that hits permanence,
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: but it doesn't. So I've caught myself like thinking that
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: for a second and only characters.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, I wasn't a fan of it to character yep.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: I think in that regard it's not the most amazing card,
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: but because it's wayfair and novenka. And I mean read
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: my announci, I guess I have an annanci that is
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: three from hand, three from reserve two to two. It
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: says if you control one or more landmarks, I cost
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: one less, and then it says when you roll one
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: or more dice, I gain one boost for each card
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: in your reserve. So it just goes very well.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: With boosted up.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: I mean it's a it's a good unique in general,
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: but it goes very well with Wayfairer getting that discount,
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: or you can switch it out to Lyrabustin.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: So yep, all right, trying to move into our Patreon questions.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: You've got a couple of those this week from Gav Kenny.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. It's not just getting didn't get.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: To talk about his Bravo stick at all.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: It's just flying documents.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: It's fun, it looks fun, looks pretty good.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that one probably has room to probably.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Need a little bit more removal. Yeah, but it's it's
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: one of my I don't know if I love Skybound
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Odyssey in Soul. I really tried sky Bound Odyssey and Soul,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: but it just didn't seem to work out for me.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Trying to do that balance between playing cards and then
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: also passing first is hard.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah. If anyone wants to discuss further about any of
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: these decks or know more about them, feel free to
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: just comment. I reply to a bunch of comments, except
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: for if they are on weird platforms like Spotify or
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: something else. It may take me like two months to
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: see them, but this is YouTube discord. Things like that.
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: I will answer pretty quickly. You will, you will, all right, Questions, questions, questions.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: I'm moving to a question from Gav Kenny. Do you
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: think the Exalt cards will seamlessly blend into the game
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: or do you perceive any issues?
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: I have.
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: Comments on this off the rips, So I put in
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: two examples here. I at first thought these will be fine,
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: Like there are cards that are just for specific heroes
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: for the main part, like that was their whole goal.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: And a couple of the first ones we saw, I
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: was like, yeah, this is this is nothing, you know,
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: amazing or whatever, like maybe certain decks will play it.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: I have put side by side in our notees document
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: the Artists and the moona one. Uh the artist one
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: is fucking busted by the way, Yeah, so good. Let
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: me tell you what it is. So for six Manna,
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: it's a zero zero zero, but it says from anywhere
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: create three mana seed tokens in your landmarks, then I
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: gain one boost per card in your landmarks. So first off,
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: if you are playing it, you most likely already have
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: at least two landmarks, maybe even would be pretty easy
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: to do. So it'll be a six mana six six'
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: six pretty dang. Easily but it's actually not six. Mana
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: you want to know, why.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Because it's only three manna because you can immediately pop
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: all the man of seats.
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: Exactly it creates three mani, seeds which if you don't
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: know what a man of set, is it's a landmark
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: that just has you tap it to sacrifice it and
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: refresh one. Mana so it is a three mana.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Six six six six six.
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: Most of the. Time it could be even more than
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: that if you wanted.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Not to, Mention and there are some cases where it
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: might be a little bit, worse like a three for
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: a four four, four which is still perfectly. Good it's
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: still very, solid but if you really, capitalize it could
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: go up to like seven seven seven eight eight, eight
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: something ridiculous like that for three. Costs that's a little bit.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: UNBOUD i think they might need to go back and
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: tweak that a little bit before full release in my, Opinion,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: yeah maybe you only create two man of.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: Seeds, YEAH i will. SAY i actually still don't Think
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: siggy plays it most of the, time but any other
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: artists here probably.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: NOT i still like a lot of the load.
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: Drops, YEAH i don't see any reason you would not
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: play this in any other. Artistics So mani seeds are,
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah So mani seeds are a permanent uh huh, yes, yes.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: You have to have at least six mana to be
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: able to do. It you do have to have at
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: least six mana to do, it but then you can
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: immediately refresh other mana, yep, yep.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: Yep and in in turn order you technically do have
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: to wait for your next turn to get the mana,
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: back but currently the only way to stop that from
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: happening effectively would be The, hunger.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Which destroying them all costs eight.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: Mana so it is a hard that is hard to,
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: remove hard to, counter and is very, good very on,
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: curve and you don't even have to you. Know, yeah
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: it's just it's. Cool it's. Great The muna. ONE i
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: would call this one, strong but it is a seven
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: manna five five five that.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: Sorry, oh target character.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: That has from anywhere target player exhausted resupplies and when
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: you make a, gift target character gains. Anchored it is,
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: no that's.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Busted it is a strong car that is also. BUSTED
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: i would call that. Fair you can anchor, anything so
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: you can anchor, itself and then you can gift again
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: and anchor someone, else gift, again anchor someone. Else that
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: can be really.
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: Good, Yes i'm calling it strong but. Fair uh not
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: only it.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Is it is a seven for five five, Five SO
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: i guess that makes. IT i don't. KNOW i still
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: think it's a little bit. Overstatted, well SO i think
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: maybe like threes or fours would be a bit. Better
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: but it's it's not super. Broken it is not as
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: good As. ESTROPE i would definitely, say.
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: Yes, okay, yes that's exactly What i'm. Saying the other,
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: four WHICH i guess we've only seen two, More uh
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: SO i better be careful about which ONES i talk.
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: About so was that you've? Seen, YEAH i, MEAN i
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: don't want to spend too long on. THIS i will
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: say The bravos and The yazmir ones are. Fine they
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: they are nowhere near the other two in my.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Opinion those are both. Good BUT i mean there's uniques
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: that are better than. Those for. Sure those are like
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: strong rare, CARDS i would.
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: Say AND i would say the same about the lyra.
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: ONE i, mean never, mind we haven't seen.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: The released.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: Just what did you just say the image of? It,
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: anyways so to, ASK i feel like that answers the.
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: QUESTION i don't like seemingly too good as, usual as
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: the meme, implies the other seem more situational and, fair
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: with the moona one slightly above. Situational to expand on,
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: THAT i think mani seeds are gonna go fucking, crazy
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: and man seeds are going to exist on, uniques so
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: that'll be.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Fun uh, yeah but that definitely has a chance to be.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: RIDICULOUS i definitely think they'll need to do some balancing
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: with The. Exalteds right, now it looks like those two
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: are for sure too, Strong but maybe that's their, goal
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: to just bust it open with some Stupid exalteds to
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: give some of the weaker decks a chance to. SHINE
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: i don't, know but but if they take over the
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: meta too, much they definitely will see, Eratus so it'll
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: be interesting to. See they're strong, cards IT'LL i don't,
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: know some of them are, good some of them maybe
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: not so.
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: Much, Yeah so this next question all kind of just
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: paraphrase BECAUSE i understand what they're talking About this is
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: From monkey D. Elliott so, basically right, now during this
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: phase of print on, demand they have a target to
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: hit before the printing actually. STARTS i think from my
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: understanding and from WHAT i, remember this is only like
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: during the winter, season BUT i could be. Misremembering, basically
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: they wait until two thousand orders are placed and then
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: they start printing them and sending them. Out it's been
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: between like four hundred and five hundred orders out of
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: two thousand for a couple months, now so they just
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: wanted us to kind of talk about how we feel about.
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: IT i will Say i'm pretty sure that they've said
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: there will be more news coming out about this soon
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: and how they're going to approach it to make things
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: better going. Forward the other thing IS i kind of
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: understand people are just you, know waiting right, now waiting
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: for the news, set waiting to you, know get cards
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: more cards that they want to. Print the thing THAT
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: i understand is really annoying is you have to place
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: your order and you have to like fully pay for
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: it for it before it's locked into that printing. Slot
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: so there's a lot of people just sitting on, orders
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: not placing. Them this is WHERE i have to just
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: blame the human. Mind like there's all these people not
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: placing their order because the quota is not filled up. Yet,
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: yep but the quote is not filling up because all
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: these people are just sitting on their. Orders so if
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: everyone just just.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Places their, orders then it would fill. Up.
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah but, yeah the BEST i can say Is i'm
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: pretty sure they're coming out with news that might even
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: probably already be out by the time that anyone listens to.
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: This AND i think it was do.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: YOU i, mean, honestly what do you? Mean, well because you're, like,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: well there's all these people that are waiting to place
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: their orders until the queue gets filled up so that
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: they can place their. Order but if we all just
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: play start, LIKE i don't know if that's. IT i
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: mean number one two.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Thousand, yeah you don't think there's actually that many?
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: PEOPLE i don't, Like, okay so it's two thousand, cards,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: right it's not two thousand orders.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Or each pack is like thirty cards or.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Something that's WHAT i, meant.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: And each person might order like five packs or.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: SOMETHING i just don't, Know LIKE i just m this
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: games continues to seem to have some issues that like
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: need to be better resolved and there's not good like
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: because number. One, okay so you guys just talked about,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: it AND i kind of stayed quiet because we talked
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: about two cards that we can already see are busted
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: or have the probability of being. Busted and it just
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: seems like there's always a handful of cards that you,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: know come out and they need to almost immediately be.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Erotted this Is set, Five, now that's just.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: TCGs yeah A Tg you.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Don't think that's all, TCGs.
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: Like Magic rebounding already had a whole list Of, yeah
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: they already have a rot us for the set that
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: isn't even out the.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Thing it's Like riftbound will get away with it because
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: they have AN ip behind, it, Right LIKE i don't,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: know how does how does play testing go for this?
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: GAME i don't, Know LIKE i just it's just like
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: every set.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: They have a group of play.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Testers i'm sure they, do but, LIKE i don't, know
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: it's just like it's it's it's becoming for me at,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: least it's becoming harder and harder for new, players which
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: is a primary focus for. Me it's becoming harder and
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: harder for new players to come in and enjoy this? Game,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: like what what DO i have to promise a new
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: player that's, Like i'm interested In i'm interested in Playing?
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Altered what DO i get From altered THAT.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: I remember our new player?
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: Episode?
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah well the question is, Right but what what CAN
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I are.
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: They a boomer like?
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: You or Well i'm not a, boomer thank?
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: You are they open to playing online On Board Game
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: arena and getting some reps there learning how to play?
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Online, okay let me finish my. Quiet what CAN i
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: offer in The altered verse THAT i can't get? Elsewhere?
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: What where's where's my what's my elevator's speech For alternati
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: as opposed to any other card? Game if anybody knows
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: what elevation elevators speeches? Demand, okay but there's would be unique.
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: Car are you the type of person that has to
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: play A tcg in? Person or are you okay playing?
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Online, Okay I'm i'm cool playing. Online let's just let's
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: just Say i'm okay with Playing, YEAH i like playing,
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: online play a lot of heart.
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: School altered is the BEST tcg that you can play
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: online right, now hands, Down so go.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Ahead but why.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: In physical?
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Collection what's that.
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: We're we're losing the.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: PLOT i don't think we're losing the. PLOT i think
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: but the LIKE i was, saying, like what's my elevator's
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: speech to get people to play? Altered because it's not
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: a primarily online, game right or that's not the idea
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: that they want to focus.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Around they're not kind of has become one in The UNITED.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: I understand, that but we already went through last episode
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: that it is not a game that is going to
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: be is not Something they're not looking to move this
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: to a primarily online. Fashion they still want to have,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: physical physical.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Cards, yeah they still have physical.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Cards i'm just, asking, LIKE i just, Like i'm not
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: saying anything. Bad i'm just, saying, like what is the
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: what is the, pitch what's the elevator speech for me to, go,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: yep this is the game for?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: You? YEAH i mean for me it would. Be there
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: is a very great online. Community if you buy, cards
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: you own them both physically and, digitally so if you
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: do have the chance to play in, person you have.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: That if NOT, bga which there are daily, tournaments three
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: different supported, formats which a lot of gcgs don't have
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: a market where you can sell and or trade all
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: of your. Cards i'll tell, you, Guys i've been. Unemployed
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: do you know How i've been like kind of surviving
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: these last couple months selling cards Playing like Literally i'm
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: not in a, yeah, Yeah i'm very lucky THAT i
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: got some like extra op boxes AND i got some
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: retail boxes and things like. That but you could go
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: out right now and buy A beyond The gates box
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: for twenty. Bucks you could easily get your money back.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: Sea you could dely flip it for fifty plus.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: And guess, what it's. Easy you don't have to ship,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: anything you don't have to package. Anything all you do
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: is sign up on altered dot gg list your cards
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: for market in the cards.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: LISTED i thought about, that, Right i've thought about, That
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: but then that that led me down a rabbit. Hole,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: right why are the whales not doing? This do you
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: know WHAT i? Mean like if they got easy.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: Because they just don't want a bunch of. Cards, okay.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: It's not WHO i, am but, like like it's, like,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: man why Isn't rudy From if it's that easy to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: flip it and gain, money why Is rudy From Alpha
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: investments not not doing? It because he seems like the
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: kind of asshole that would come in and fuck up a, market.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: You know WHAT i, mean probably doesn't know about, It,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: okay that's.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Fair, yeah But i'm just you, know because he's he
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: seems like that guy who would be, Like, Yeah i'm
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: Gonna i'm gonna buy up all The hungers and Then
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: i'm gonna make it worth a million dollars and then
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: NOW i have them. All he just sees he seems
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: like that kind of. GUY i don't, know you just
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: it would let me, because like you, said it is
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: you could do that with The. Hunger it is incredibly, affordable,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: right like weirdly almost like to be. Affordable.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: Right, yeah we've we've seen an actual increase in new
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: players joining the discord and asking a lot of questions
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: because of how Cheap beyond The gates. Got so it's
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: been pretty, COOL i, Mean and that's to answer your original,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: question your original question about the, POD i do think
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: there aren't easily enough packs sitting there waiting to be,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: ordered based on the amount of people that admit to doing,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: that and based on how quickly the slot filled up
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: last time when it got close and when people got
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: like massoubi altarts and things like. THAT i think right
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: now we're just in a waiting period until the new.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: SET a lot of people thought the uniques from the
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: game found would kind of push it, over but that
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: you'd have to get a unique that you really want
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: to pray and then uniques are your lowest amount of
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: cards in a. Deck so, People, yeah people are just you,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: know either sitting on their order or waiting to place
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: an order until they have twenty or more cards that
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: they even want. Ordered but, YEAH i could see that
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: easily being the. Case but there's supposed to be an
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: announcement probably this coming week.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: About the, changes and maybe we'll go over next week
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: or whatever when you're hearing, This BUT i JUST i
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: just thought about that because it just seems like number,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: one there's there's a ton there always seems to be
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: a problem with a handful of cards every, Set LIKE
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: I i don't know HOW i wrap that to new,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: players and, like the the more it's, like have you
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: guys ever watched that that YouTube? Series is a guy
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: who does it on. YouTube It's The Seven Deadly sins
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Of car OF. CCGs No felix might have seen it
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: once or? Twice, no just, Me, okay that's, cool but it's,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: yeah it's just the seven deadly SAIDs of. CCGs and
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: he goes over all the things that like will almost
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: immediately make your your card game, fail, right and like
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: one of the one of them was like special pro
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: special promos and exclusivity promos and stuff like. THAT i don't,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: know just like there's so, many like so many, Erratas
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: like it just seems like every set has a. Handful
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: and now there's this watch LIST i think that's been
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: around for what a year now it for someone like,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: me it becomes difficult to, track, RIGHT i have a
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: short bad. Memory so and then just, yeah it seems
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: it just it seems like the the from outside looking,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: in it's problem after problem after, problem and LIKE i get,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: it and it's JUST i don't, know maybe some of
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: the maybe some of the rose tinted is starting to clear.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: OFF i don't.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: Know, yeah SO i think you you're in. Love so
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: it does on my head with the uh, no, No
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: i'm giving you. Credit you said. That other TCGs get
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: away with it because they're just like highly more popular
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: or based off of a popular ip you you hear
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: all the, Time like the issues that one piece had
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: with art and screen grabs and just shitty, cards but
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: people love one piece so they play. It riftbound has
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: had a ton of, issues hard quality rares, missing they've dis, like,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: yeah their most recent card that they, changed which is
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: not going to make sense to half the people on.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: Here there's a card they, changed Uh ika Than rain
• 1:06:37
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• 1:06:37
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• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: Used to basically say do this, thing do this thing six,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: times and do it makes perfect. Time but because of the,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: rules because of the, rules because of new, things they
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: changed the card to have the thing you do printed
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: on the card six, times so it says do this,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: thing do this, thing do this. Thing that's.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: Bullshit, yeah so there is no way they did.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: THAT i promise. YOU i don't doubt it BECAUSE i
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: get away with it, precisely precisely because of what you.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: Said it's a.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Very popular new. Hotness people are cream in their drawers about.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: IT i get. IT i understand it. Right it's just
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: like this new game When i'm not new, game but
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Where i'm arguing with one of our lead judges as
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: to why this card should do the THING i wanted to,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: do and he's telling me, no And i'm, like but
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: that's Not it's WHY i feel LIKE i gotta talk to.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: You how DO i argue with a head judge and?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Win i'm not sure that's a good. QUESTION i don't,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: know all, Right, well but the head judge is a head.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Judge, YEAH i, know But I'M i posted In.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: May they they don't have the card art, yet BUT
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: i posted the original card and the new. Text that's
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: so stupid and Rain where is? It felix probably knows
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: that it technically makes sense based on the, rules but the.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: Fact that for the rules now it's not reflexive or
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: something like, that and each one can be reacted to
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: individually or something. STUPID i guess it makes sense ruling,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: wise but that's just so.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: Gross why is it because there's a moment of interaction
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: in between each? One? Yeah is that why there's a
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: there's a time.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: For your.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: Before it used to be, no, no, no, no whenever
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: the results all of them happen at the same.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Time, Right i'm, Saying but, previously the way it, read
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: there's a moment of interaction in between each set of. Damage.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: Correct, okay, yeah, okay, YEAH i see what you're. Saying,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: yeah so it is very unfortunate for altered BECAUSE i
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: think things like this do get put under a huge magnifying.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: Glass but time and time, AGAIN i have so many
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: ways to prove it is just like this IN, TCGs
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: and every time someone tries to argue LIKE TCGs never do,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: This i'm, Like, okay here's an article that shows you
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: a thousand times that it's been.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Good it definitely. Happens but you, know if It's magic
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Or pokemon or yu gi oh, whatever right because people play,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: those they're, popularized right or you, know they have huge
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: ip behind, them and, like this definitely. Happens LIKE i
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: was not when they're, like, yep there's gonna be a
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: delay in. THIS i was like, yep not really. Surprised
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: but then some people like what THE Fulk like it's, like,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: dude this is for. Real this is nothing about what
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: you read just made you, go, yeah there's probably gonna
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: be some issues with. That like use your head. Sometimes,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: yeah that's ALL i got to. Say use your naggins
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: sometimes because sometimes people are like what and it's like
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: you saw no issues with, that, Huh and they're, like,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: well like.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 7: One, uh.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: One of the one of the really big stick sticking
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: points right now with people and altered is like WHEN
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: i search ALTERED tcg on, YouTube the videos that pop
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: up first are like about the game found situation and
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: and how you know that's? Bad BUT i get riftbound
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: videos that are the exact same on my, feed like
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: every other.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Week have you watched The magic con at?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: All?
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: EVER i feel like these people live under a bubble,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: sometimes like why don't you go watch some magic? Content?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Right like magic is like YouTube channels in magic make
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: their bread and butter off of bitching about, magic.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 6: Like, yep.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: Yep so it's it's REALLY i don't want to do this.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: To the, guy but watch the professor's. Videos you guys
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: all know who that Is Tilarian Community. COLLEGE i feel
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: like everyone kind of knows who he, is right. Right
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: he says he's not, negative and to you, know he
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: he has goods and, bads right which. TEAS i feel
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: like his opinions are very center, cut, right like he's
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: got LIKE i would like to see this, changed but
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: here's some you, know these are. GOOD i like. THIS
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: i don't like. That but people just cling to the
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: negative and like call him negative all the, time and
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: it's like that's where the money's made on, YouTube is people.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: BITCHING i hate to tell you that's where the money
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: R Khan's I'm i'm If i'm not. Mistaken it's still
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: the top rated Key forge. Podcast now there ain't many
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: of us right under. Ten but it's because we, complain,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: RIGHT i.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: Don't know how future self might be passing.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: You we'll see they're they're getting. Close like they they pass.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: More often, now don't.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: They well they go through the like we go through
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: The december, months or we don't go through The december
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: months and they, do but or The december, month the weeks.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Whatever but their complaining is getting getting to be pretty.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: GOOD i gotta. Say it's kind of, strange but like
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: it is what. Sells so that's why you're seeing, it.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: Right and the YouTube algorithm sucks because the people who
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: bitch the most are always the. Ones what is it
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: the squeaky wheel gets the, grease, RIGHT i believe that's the, thing,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Right and then people go onto the internet to immediately
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: justify their. Bitching, Right and when you go look for
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: for a vacuum in a, tunnel you're gonna find it
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: right when you when you put up say the bad
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: thing into the, thing it's gonna show you the bad,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: thing and you're, like that's all that's online. NOW i
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: can't tell you the last, time.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: And then it.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 5: It just becomes a feedback loop of person makes negative,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: video everyone goes to the comments to complain about them
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: being negative or to defend the thing they, love and
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: then it pushes the video higher and. Higher there are
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: one or two creators maybe possibly that we're In, altered
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: THAT i do not like because they create content that you,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: know garners those kind of, responses AND i just don't
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: watch that kind of. CONTENT i, watch you, know the
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: stuff that is not like. That but uh, yeah it's
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: basically all just to, say all of these other games
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: are way. Bigger it's like a bigger. Pond there's more content,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: creators there's more news coming, out you.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: Know, Repeatedly LIKE i also feel a.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 5: Lot of thing by the time it comes, out be over.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: RIGHT i also feel like they chose nothing against the
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: two people they, Chose BUT i feel like AND i don't,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: KNOW i GUESS i don't know how that how everything
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: goes into. That So i'm not going to speak on
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: it BECAUSE i don't know how you choose the you,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: know because, obviously like social media influencers play a big, role,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Right how you choose, those how you do, That And
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: i'm not saying anything about the. People i'm just saying
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: about the actual influence they, have, Right SO i don't
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: know what goes into, that how you decide. That i'm
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: sure it's a numbers game with money and all. That
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: and just, Again i'm not going to talk on something
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: i'm Not I'm i'm not familiar on because the only
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: REASON i get the. REACTIONS i get the reactions is
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: Because i'm incredibly. Negative AND i call me a. Realist
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: but that's just. Me you're allowed to call me whatever
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: you so, desired because, WELL i keep it one hundred at.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: Least you, KNOW i like to tell PEOPLE i do.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Right if IF i think it's, Shit i'll tell you it's.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Shit IF i think it's, Great i'll tell you a
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Great i've always kind of prided myself In KeyForge and
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: an altered on The if it is good for the
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: game and a good, DECISION i will give. Praise if it's,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: GARBAGE i will destroy. It, Right i'm much better at
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: destroying THAN i am.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: THAT i am, praising BUT i WOULD i would say you,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 5: are you are far more positive than you think when
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 5: it comes to like the grander community in.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: General so, WELL i see this is a weird thing
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: because Like altered is the exact opposite Of, KeyForge, Right
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Like altered the whole, community like everything is dying all the,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: Time Like altered is such a Huge you're just it's
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: a weird, community. Bro everything is on fire all the, time,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Right AND i feel like it's like it's like what
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: level of hurricane is it this this? Week, Right like
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: what class a hurricane is? It where in Key forge
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: it's very different where everyone's like everything's. Awesome it's, like
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: are you fucking? Stupid did you?
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: Not you?
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: Know were this?
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: Car you've?
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: Seen? Convert you need to look discord discord. People cole
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: probably knows better than what's happening in Key. Forde people
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: are still freaking ABOUT pvs and.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: And i'm going to say PRE, pv, right that's that's
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: that's Where i'll say BECAUSE pv was the first time
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: people actually came out and we're like this is BUT
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: i MEAN i guess it maybe it started In Grim
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: reminders a little, bit where the people are like this
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: is busted AND i don't like, it, Right but like
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: pev was REALLY i think like the first time where
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: it really came up and people were, like this is.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: BUSTED i don't like Every, yeah, well because the problem
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: is it's. It it will with how they've got, it
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: it's going to dominate the meta for a long time
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: to come if they don't do, something and they don't
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: do anything as the, issue whereas altereds, like oh this
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: is this might be an. Issue we should do something
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: and then well but but sometimes like it's so quick,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Right it's like it's, like, oh this might be a potential.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Problem we really haven't let it play out, yet but
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: we're gonna rot it it, Anyway and it's, like, well hold,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: on let's see what the meta does. First you know,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: what maybe it's not maybe it's not an issue at.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: All we don't. Know but alterns like we're gonna.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: AGREE i think they should have never EROTDED. Wa wasn't that?
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: Good shut, up.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: Let's not get way. Rock they allowed To wa to
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: run wild for like six months it was a, problem
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: and they're, like, yeah we should probably change. This, Well
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: like sometimes it's, like, MAN i feel like a, fine you,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: guys tell me a final set a lot longer than he,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: did BUT i feel, like all of a, Sudden i'm, like,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: oh was it that?
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: Long he had a couple, months you, know but it
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: felt like it was like he was also always up,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: there but they kept eroding and suspending draw stuff.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: First sometimes like it's like the LIKE i feel like
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: it's not even like they don't even give it a, cycle,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: right and it's just like they're, like, oh it's been six, Weeks,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: yeah we need to change this. Now and it's, like
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: but like you haven't even giving people time to like
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: cope with. It it's just, like, ah let's just change.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: It it's like, Easy, yeah this is this is a
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: this is a topic for for a whole other. Episode all,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: Right But i'll give You i'll give you The i'll
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 5: give you a great analogy right. Now in In, KeyForge
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 5: everything is always on fire and always burns and always,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: hurts so they're just used to it and. Altered we
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 5: have very good stretches of time where everything is great
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: and everything is, wonderful and then something gets set on
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: fire so everyone freaks.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Out that's the, difference you. KNOW i said that, REALLY
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: i was, like it's Like stockholm syndrome over In, KeyForge,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: right like we're just so used to be. Disappointed we're just, like,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: yeah but that's about. Right you, know like when when
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: it's like super, disappointing we're just, like, yeah, no that
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: seems that that's about par for the, course and like
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: we just accept it right where it's, LIKE i don't,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: know maybe that's it because even sheep, Man i'm, like,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: man they've just beaten you. Down, Han he's like pretty,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: much that's that's where he. Was he was just like
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: they've just beaten you to the point where you're just
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: like and Is he's just like we've talked about, it
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: we've done, this we've done, that and they're not gonna change.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: It so why why even continue to?
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: COMPLAIN i keep beating the dead horse if it's gonna
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: do anything.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: Right and it's just like but it's LIKE i just
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: feel like the minute you let it, go they're gonna be, like,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: see it's, fine.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: It's all.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: RIGHT i don't, know maybe that's just, me but everything's. Fine,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: yeah it's the dog in the, house right and the burning. House,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: yeah the dog in the.
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  Speaker 3: House everything's burning.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: Down, yeah.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: But question and.
• 1:20:54
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• 1:20:54
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• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: IT i already reply it on. YouTube but, yeah just
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 5: hold out for. News just wait till next. Week We,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah cole knows something he's not gonna tell. Us just
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: wait till next. Week that's what you.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: Know what's gonna all be okay when Cold, celsi just
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: wait till next week about something you're complaining. About you
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: know it'll be addressed next. Week i'm solid on.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: It it's not even secret. News it's not even secret.
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  Speaker 5: out in the live audience Says season finals is also coming.
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  Speaker 5: Up we talked about it on our last. Episode if
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