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Ridley reinstatement, Engram tag, Combine takeaways & more | Week in Review: March 6 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: TIAA Bank, and it's Monday, March sixth. This is a
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Speaker 1: special NFL Scouting Combine edition. I'm JP Shadrick with the
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Speaker 1: Big news from Monday. Wide receiver Calvin Ridley has been
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Speaker 1: reinstated by the NFL, and tight end Evan Ingraham reportedly
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Speaker 1: has been franchise sagged. More on both players and their
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Speaker 1: impact for the Jaguars moving ahead, coming up, Let's begin
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Speaker 1: with the Jaguars brass at the combine last week. GM
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Speaker 1: Trent Balky and head coach Doug Peterson spoke with the
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Speaker 1: met You Tuesday and then visited our set on Radio row.
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Speaker 1: Bulky shared his thoughts about the combine as a GM
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Speaker 1: and the moving of money to create salary cap space.
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Speaker 1: What does the combine mean? Do you use a GM?
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Speaker 1: I know a lot of GM's aren't crazy about it
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Speaker 1: because it sort of sends guys up and down boards
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Speaker 1: that don't really exist, if you will. But how do
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Speaker 1: you assess the combine? What do you try to get
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Speaker 1: out of it? Well, you try to get as much
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Speaker 1: as you can, obviously, and you know, I think everybody
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Speaker 1: places a different importance on different things. You know, it
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Speaker 1: is what it is. You take the information and you
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Speaker 1: compile it with all the other information you got. And
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Speaker 1: we're a big film based evaluation evaluating systems, so you know,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna take the film and look at the film
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Speaker 1: and then take all the other parts and kind of
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Speaker 1: piece it together with the film. But at the end
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Speaker 1: of the day, the film's what matters to us. You
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Speaker 1: guys really rise and fall here or not? Oh? I
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Speaker 1: think they do. Okay, let's be honest. I think that
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Speaker 1: through history, guys have come here moved up the ladder
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Speaker 1: quite a bit. And there's guys that have come here
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Speaker 1: and not done well and felling off a little bit.
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Speaker 1: But you know, you take it for what it's worth.
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Speaker 1: You know, I've never put too much into it and
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Speaker 1: just try to use it as a tool, Trent. This
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Speaker 1: is also the time of year where business, you know,
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Speaker 1: there's plenty of business to attend to for the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: and going into the start of the league year salary
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Speaker 1: cap considerations. There's reports earlier this week that there's been
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Speaker 1: money moved around a few different contracts some of the
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Speaker 1: big names to create some space and they're still pending
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Speaker 1: free agents out there. So let's start with that part,
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Speaker 1: the last part of that equation. Everybody's worried, worried and
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Speaker 1: wondering about Evan Ingram and the right tackle Juwan Taylor.
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Speaker 1: What's the latest with those two, and I know there's
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks left to get something done. Well,
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Speaker 1: we just really begun the negotiating phase with both of them.
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Speaker 1: We've got with their agents, meeting with their agents today,
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Speaker 1: met with Juan's agent this morning, and we're just talking
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Speaker 1: through things. We got a window here before free agency
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Speaker 1: actually opens to try to close these deals. You know,
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Speaker 1: Doug and I have talked ownership, Shot and the three
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Speaker 1: of us have talked. Very important for us to keep
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Speaker 1: our core players together. But it's got to make sense
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Speaker 1: for both sides. It's got to be a win win,
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Speaker 1: and we've told that to the players. But we strongly
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Speaker 1: believe in keeping this group together and I think the
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Speaker 1: actions that we've taken over the last week, week and
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Speaker 1: a half are going to allow us to do that
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Speaker 1: or at least put our best foot forward. Do you
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Speaker 1: feel good about those actions? You've always got to balance
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Speaker 1: the now versus the future as a gym. You feel
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Speaker 1: good about where you've gotten the cap as you go
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Speaker 1: or as you approach to mark fifteenth. Yeah, we're in
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Speaker 1: good shape from a cap standpoint. You know, we met
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Speaker 1: with ownership, We reviewed the plan that we put out,
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Speaker 1: and the coaching staff and the personnel staff have met
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Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks to really hammer out
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Speaker 1: what's best for us today and as we move into
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Speaker 1: the future. And really it's that collaboration, the willingness of
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Speaker 1: our ownership to step up and do what we needed
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Speaker 1: to do financially to make this this all come to fruition.
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Speaker 1: We still got a lot of work through. We got
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Speaker 1: to finish the race, if you will. So that's where
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Speaker 1: we're at right now. That's where it comes when you're
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Speaker 1: moving money back into the future. Ownership's got to be involved, right,
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Speaker 1: They've got to pull the trigger on that. Well, they
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Speaker 1: do they You know, this organization has never really pushed
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Speaker 1: money into the future. One of two teams that haven't
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Speaker 1: done that, and we're moving that direction. But you still
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Speaker 1: got to do it with respect to the dollar, right,
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Speaker 1: It's it's got to make sense. You don't want to
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Speaker 1: just go out there and make bad deals. And again,
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Speaker 1: I go back to win win. There's there's a there's
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Speaker 1: a win in it for both sides. You just got
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Speaker 1: to find out what that number is and what the
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Speaker 1: length of that contract is going to be. For head
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Speaker 1: coach Doug Peterson, getting back in the office and reviewing
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Speaker 1: how the Jags made the playoff ron was key. When
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Speaker 1: you get back in the office, how much do you
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Speaker 1: look back at what happened, especially in the second half
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Speaker 1: of the season, your self evaluation, self scout what stood
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Speaker 1: out in a good and maybe not so good way
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Speaker 1: about your team last season. You know, I think it's
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Speaker 1: it's definitely my job to look at kind of the
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Speaker 1: whole big picture, right from from as I say, soup
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Speaker 1: to nuts, right, I mean, it's it's it's everything, and uh,
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Speaker 1: how we started, how we finished right, and you always
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Speaker 1: want to be finishing faster and stronger at the end
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Speaker 1: of the year than and when you started. So for
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Speaker 1: me as the head coach, I think that's what I
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Speaker 1: have to I have to focus on and look at
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Speaker 1: as we're breaking down our schemes again right in the
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Speaker 1: off season, so all three phases, all the coordinators, coaches
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Speaker 1: are looking at schemes. How can we be better? How
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Speaker 1: can we be more efficient? Um? And and then you know,
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Speaker 1: for me personally, just how this young football team embraced
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Speaker 1: the things that I was teaching them, you know what
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Speaker 1: I was kind of preaching in the team settings and
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Speaker 1: the team meetings. How we overcame some adversity. Um, we
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Speaker 1: had a bad, bad mid part of our season there
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Speaker 1: where we didn't win a game for five or six weeks.
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Speaker 1: And you know, but the guy has never wavered. And
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Speaker 1: and so that's the that's the part that that you know,
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Speaker 1: I think as we look ahead to twenty three that
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Speaker 1: we can really kind of hang our hats on, we
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Speaker 1: kind of focus on and um, you know, build upon
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Speaker 1: those even though we have to get better as a
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Speaker 1: football team, and we understand that. But a lot of
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Speaker 1: a lot of positives. I know you didn't love October,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, but uh but in retrospect, could that be
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Speaker 1: a good thing for this team moving forward that it
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Speaker 1: it learned from that and learned how to withstand that
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Speaker 1: and showed that he could. I think I think it's great.
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Speaker 1: I do think that's something we can learn from it,
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Speaker 1: you know it. Other than the Detroit game, which was
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Speaker 1: a little bit later, we didn't get blown out of
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Speaker 1: those games. Those were like one score games. So there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of encouragement there. There's a lot of things
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Speaker 1: that if we just that is what I kept telling
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Speaker 1: our football teams. We just take care of these little
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Speaker 1: details and hang on to the football. You know, Let's
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Speaker 1: not make these types of mistakes. We've got to finish better.
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Speaker 1: Whatever it was for that particular week, Let's clean that up,
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Speaker 1: and we're going to be fine as we moved down,
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Speaker 1: moved down to the schedule, you know, and and so
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Speaker 1: that that was a positive, and it's going to be
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Speaker 1: a positive as we continue to build. The last time
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Speaker 1: we were sitting at this table, we were talking about
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Speaker 1: culture a lot this time last year, and it was
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Speaker 1: so important to build that even beyond the playoff run.
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Speaker 1: I would think you've got to be thrilled with how
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Speaker 1: that sits right now and what you're able to get
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Speaker 1: down in that direction. I am thrilled. I'm happy of
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Speaker 1: where the where the team is, you know, not only
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Speaker 1: how we finished, but you know, we we've built that foundation,
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Speaker 1: that that culture foundation, you know, And I think I
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Speaker 1: think the past is behind us and and there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of exciting times and in front of us. And
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Speaker 1: and uh, we've got the right pieces. We got the
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Speaker 1: right leadership, you know, coaches, players, you know, front office
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Speaker 1: staff Trent Balky and his guys, um and and in
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Speaker 1: great ownership and shod that you know, being able to
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Speaker 1: give us the resources we need to continue the success
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Speaker 1: that we started this season. And um, you know, nothing
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Speaker 1: is I learned this a long long time ago. Nothing's
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Speaker 1: gonna ever gonna be handed to us. We gotta go
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Speaker 1: out and earn it. You got to earn respect in
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Speaker 1: this league. And I think we're still trying to earn
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Speaker 1: that respect just a little bit. Moving on to Jags
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Speaker 1: Drivetime Wednesday on Radio Row, NFL media columnist Judy Batista
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Speaker 1: discussed the Competition Committee conversation about some possible rule changes
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Speaker 1: earlier this week. You've been following the competition committee conversation.
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Speaker 1: The big votes come up from the owners at the
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Speaker 1: annual meeting later in March. Of course, that's down the
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Speaker 1: line in Arizona, John, I think you'll be there for
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Speaker 1: that for Jaguars dot Com. But you know, it's a
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Speaker 1: lot of quarterback centric things, as is the case the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Let's start with this push play on the sneak. I
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Speaker 1: mean I saw this in a Penn State game this
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Speaker 1: year Perdue Penn State up the road here at West Lafayette,
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Speaker 1: and they wind up in the T formation and three
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Speaker 1: guys pushed them into the end zone touchdown. And we
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Speaker 1: started seeing that more and more in the NFL. The
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Speaker 1: Eagles especially were well known for that. There's a little
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Speaker 1: bit of uneasiness with that because how do you defend it?
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Speaker 1: And that's got to be part of the conversation. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think there's an uneasiness just on an aesthetic level,
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Speaker 1: like this doesn't look very like. This looks like a
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Speaker 1: rugby player, right, like, this doesn't really look like the NFL.
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Speaker 1: And then there is an uneasiness, first of all, on
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Speaker 1: the injury front, like this can't be good. You know
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Speaker 1: that defenses are going to go to school this offseason
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Speaker 1: on how to stop it, and I mean, let's face it,
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Speaker 1: the way to stop it is going to be like
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Speaker 1: you put your defensive tackles in there tight and you
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Speaker 1: have your linebackers push against yikes. So you're going to
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Speaker 1: have the most important member of the franchise sandwiched between
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Speaker 1: light you know, getting pushed on both sides. I don't
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Speaker 1: I don't know that they're going to outlaw it, though,
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Speaker 1: because I think there is a feeling of like, well,
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Speaker 1: stop it. As soon as a defense stops it, it
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Speaker 1: all out right, and then they will come up with
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Speaker 1: other things to do. I know, offensive coaches don't want
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Speaker 1: to lose the play because they think you can do
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Speaker 1: other stuff out of that formation. You sort of show
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Speaker 1: that and then pitch it maybe whatever you're gonna do
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Speaker 1: the playoff, right. I don't know if they will, but
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Speaker 1: I mean there's certainly a lot of conversation around. I
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Speaker 1: didn't cover this, but back in the early nineteen hundreds,
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Speaker 1: heavy rows of outlawed the flying wedge, if you remember.
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Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I pretend to remember, but it
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Speaker 1: strikes me there was a time twenty twenty five years
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Speaker 1: ago where you couldn't push the runner, and it sort
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Speaker 1: of came back and the Eagles, to their credit, has
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Speaker 1: sort of taken advantage of the thing that was allowed.
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Speaker 1: But I don't remember when it was outlaw I mean
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Speaker 1: when it was brought back in. But now, when I
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Speaker 1: was a kid covering games or a kid watching games,
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Speaker 1: you could not push the runner from behind. So I
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Speaker 1: don't think it would be very hard for them to
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Speaker 1: outlaw the play, and I think they will mainly because
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Speaker 1: of the aesthetics and as you say, Judy, the safety
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Speaker 1: with eventually creating a situation where you have eleven on eleven.
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Speaker 1: That's why they outlawed the onside kick or not outlawed,
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Speaker 1: but change the onside kick rule was because of that
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Speaker 1: point of contact in the danger. I think actually this
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Speaker 1: play will go in some capacity by the way that
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Speaker 1: either limiting how many people can push or something. It
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Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like they'll allow it. I don't love
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Speaker 1: legislation that outlaws plays. I think you get into a
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Speaker 1: gray area there, but I think they will outlaw this
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Speaker 1: win in some capacity. Yeah, I'm curious to see. They've
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Speaker 1: said after the first day of meetings that that was
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Speaker 1: like one of the primary topics of conversation. Like they
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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time going back and forth on that,
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Speaker 1: and they want to keep looking at it, and I
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Speaker 1: think going into the March meeting is when they'll have
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Speaker 1: a long conversation with the other owners because it also
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Speaker 1: just doesn't look very good, and like that's important that
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Speaker 1: matters in a league that scores forty points a game.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're lining up. I would also add this,
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Speaker 1: even if they don't outlaw it, the first time a
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Speaker 1: quarterback gets injured doing it will be the last time
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Speaker 1: we see a called. Well that leads into our next conversation,
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Speaker 1: and it's the possible return of the emergency quarterback rule, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, up until twenty ten, league require teams that
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Speaker 1: desigly had an emergency quarterback. Clear you could always have
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Speaker 1: three quarterbacks, you could have five quarterbacks, six, you can
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Speaker 1: do whatever you want, use your roster the way you want.
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Speaker 1: But after we saw what happened in the playoff game
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Speaker 1: with the Niners, which was obviously very unfortunate, where they
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Speaker 1: literally did not have a quarterback one team though one team,
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that they're going to go back to that.
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Speaker 1: I mean there was a reason that they you know,
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Speaker 1: lots of teams only want to carry, only want to
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Speaker 1: have two active and as the risk you right, and
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Speaker 1: that's the risky one. I mean, that's the calculation. You
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Speaker 1: you make the decision, head coach. Yeah, you want to
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Speaker 1: use your roster. I don't think they should mandate how
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Speaker 1: teams a lot their roster. I think you've got to
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Speaker 1: at some point the team's responsible for, yeah, putting their
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Speaker 1: players on the field. There's fifty three. You guys figure
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Speaker 1: it out right out the consequence if you think you're
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Speaker 1: so smart and can carry two and you guys, teams
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Speaker 1: do right. Most teams have gone that way to get
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Speaker 1: an extra player in there. But I mean after you know,
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Speaker 1: that was sort of the cautionary tail, after we saw
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Speaker 1: what happened. There maybe a change. One more to discuss here,
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Speaker 1: and it's the post ability of making roughing the pass
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Speaker 1: a reviewable. This to me, parkins back to the pattern
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Speaker 1: reference reviewable. It lasted one year because it's a judgment call,
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Speaker 1: and you know you can't regulate all that as well,
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Speaker 1: do you think, Julie, Yeah, that's exactly how the competition
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Speaker 1: committee feels too. They do not want to go down
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Speaker 1: that path that year was not pleasant for them. That
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Speaker 1: was I mean, they remember they sort of I don't
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Speaker 1: want to use the word bullying, but they sort of
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Speaker 1: got bullied into making it reviewable. The Competition Committee had
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Speaker 1: real concerns about making pass interference reviewable. The coaches wanted it.
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Speaker 1: They sort of talked them into it at the league meeting,
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Speaker 1: big meeting, and they said, oh, we can do this.
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Speaker 1: And it was a mess. It was a year long
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Speaker 1: headache for them, and it disappeared right afterwards. And I
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Speaker 1: think the competition Committee feels like you're going down the
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Speaker 1: same path. It's a judgment call. What they really want
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Speaker 1: is things to be called, and this doesn't is not
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Speaker 1: just roughing the pastor. This is all calls. They want
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Speaker 1: more consistency across all of the officiating crews, so that
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Speaker 1: what one crew calls roughing the pastor is the same
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Speaker 1: as what this crew call and this crew over here.
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Speaker 1: That's what they really want, is just consistency. Later in
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Speaker 1: the show, NFL media analytics experts Cynthia Freeland joined us
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Speaker 1: with the possible next wave of analytics with player and
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Speaker 1: scheme development. I hope we stop hearing things on broadcasts
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Speaker 1: that are like man analytics say it to go for
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Speaker 1: it like it drives me nuts, because that's actually not true. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's like that's what I want to do. I want
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Speaker 1: to be the person to be like, Okay, if you
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Speaker 1: do this in past games that's worked three cours of
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Speaker 1: the time, doesn't mean it's the right decision now because
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Speaker 1: was your right tackle beat up? Was your quarterback just
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Speaker 1: sack three times? Like what's going like? But you know
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Speaker 1: you can, so let's just talk about it in like
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Speaker 1: this is why then maybe thinking this now putting into
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Speaker 1: play different like install So during the week that the
14:44
Speaker 1: week has changed, they're trying to optimize for things like load, which,
14:47
Speaker 1: by the way, sports performance analytics have probably the furthest
14:51
Speaker 1: place that they still could go, but they've come really
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Speaker 1: far too, which is great. Keep me healthier, keep me
14:56
Speaker 1: you know, more able to do my job, and also
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Speaker 1: like keep me good for the rest of my life.
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Speaker 1: Life awesome. These are all great things that have come
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Speaker 1: from analytics, right big data. So the reality is is
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Speaker 1: you know you're going to change your week, and so
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Speaker 1: now we're practicing more fourth down situations and so it's
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Speaker 1: not just like haphazard go for it like, that's not
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Speaker 1: what it is. Do you have the fourth down play
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Speaker 1: when you've seen you know, cover three six times in
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Speaker 1: a row. I don't have the answer to that, but
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Speaker 1: your coach does, right, So the so the reality is
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Speaker 1: it's just it's a it's a way of staying organized
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Speaker 1: and trying to use your assets aka your players to
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Speaker 1: beat my assets in the best way possible get the
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Speaker 1: biggest return on investment. Has a coach ever blamed you
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Speaker 1: for everything? Yes, for going for something and he really
15:43
Speaker 1: didn't want to. I'm sure that happens. Luckily. I've never
15:46
Speaker 1: been in that situation, but I will say that I did.
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Speaker 1: There was one coach who I called out for not that.
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Speaker 1: He's like, don't you let I go for it on
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Speaker 1: fourth and mind you are going for it in ridiculous situations.
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Speaker 1: You just want to be knows of the fourth down
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Speaker 1: coach And he's like, well, isn't that analytics? I'm like, no,
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Speaker 1: it's all about context. Right. So if then right, like,
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Speaker 1: you're not gonna build more trucks if everybody's not buying them, right, right,
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Speaker 1: So make the decisions to you know, figure out what
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Speaker 1: you have and make the right It's decision making, right,
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Speaker 1: if you can get ten percent better at your there's
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Speaker 1: seventy snaps in a football it seventy plays in a
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Speaker 1: football game. That's seven places. How many games have coming
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Speaker 1: down to seven places? The answer is a lot, most right,
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Speaker 1: So if you can get ten percent better, if you
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Speaker 1: can make the quality of those seven, that's a huge improvement.
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Speaker 1: Synths and a coach who knows that very well. Schug Peterson.
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Speaker 1: I mean the guy was he was the fourth down
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Speaker 1: all these other four towns. He's not the one who
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Speaker 1: yelled at me because he actually a guy who works
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Speaker 1: on your staff now, who I think is one of
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Speaker 1: if not like, his name's Ryan Paganetti, and I have
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Speaker 1: to say I'm Italians, but Paganetti, you can't say it
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Speaker 1: the other right. But anyway, so he does a really
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Speaker 1: good job of explaining how the fourth down should work.
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Speaker 1: Because Doug was not the one who got mad at
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18:47
Speaker 1: producer Greg Kosell and his thoughts on the development of
18:51
Speaker 1: quarterback Trevor Lawrence. I learned years and years ago from
18:54
Speaker 1: Dick Vermeil, and he said that when you draft a
18:57
Speaker 1: quarterback number one, the entire organization, and he's talking about
19:01
Speaker 1: the janitors, he's talking about everybody in the organization, the
19:04
Speaker 1: objective has to be to make that guy a great player.
19:07
Speaker 1: And clearly that was the approach they took this year. Unfortunately,
19:13
Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence, people talked about him as a generational
19:17
Speaker 1: talent when he came out, and that put an unfair
19:20
Speaker 1: burden on him because he's not really there's very few
19:23
Speaker 1: generational talents, as you know. And then they saw what
19:26
Speaker 1: he was and they worked with him, and they did
19:29
Speaker 1: some really good things with him that help he needed
19:32
Speaker 1: to be sped up. He was very deliberate and everything
19:35
Speaker 1: he did. He's a big kid who's a long strider,
19:38
Speaker 1: so you need to shorten his strides, you need to
19:40
Speaker 1: quicken his drop, quicken his set, quick in his delivery,
19:44
Speaker 1: and when you combine that with the nature of the offense,
19:46
Speaker 1: which is more quick rhythm throws, that had to all
19:49
Speaker 1: work together, and they did a masterful job with that.
19:52
Speaker 1: And Lawrence was obviously a very willing student. And you
19:56
Speaker 1: know the thing about Trevor Lawrence that also works with
19:58
Speaker 1: all this is Lauren is very good at picking up concepts,
20:03
Speaker 1: and that's really important. He's the kind of kid that
20:06
Speaker 1: you can go through concepts with him and he picks
20:08
Speaker 1: it up quickly and then he understands it and then
20:10
Speaker 1: you can build off those concepts. Because the past game
20:13
Speaker 1: is about concepts. You get to the concepts in different ways,
20:16
Speaker 1: different personnel packages, different formations, but it's about the concepts,
20:21
Speaker 1: and he's very good, very smart at picking that up
20:24
Speaker 1: and then taking it to the field. So it was
20:26
Speaker 1: a really good mix of coaching staff and quarterback. And
20:31
Speaker 1: obviously we know that if your quarterback plays at a
20:34
Speaker 1: high level and you have a good one, your chance
20:37
Speaker 1: of winning games improves dramatically. And that's basically what happened
20:40
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville on that side of the ball clearly. Last
20:42
Speaker 1: week we also caught up with CBS Sports, NFL Network
20:45
Speaker 1: and Serious XM analyst Charles Davis discussing the quarterback and
20:49
Speaker 1: the offensive weapons available. All Right, you mentioned at twenty
20:53
Speaker 1: seven nothing down the playoffs. First off, they rallied to
20:55
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs, which was remarkable enough. Anyway, the
20:58
Speaker 1: quarterback started playing better, turn it over defense, took the
21:01
Speaker 1: ball away, they beat the Titans, they won the division,
21:04
Speaker 1: and then they're down twenty seven. There's no way, there's
21:07
Speaker 1: no chance. But the quarterback had the mindset to work
21:10
Speaker 1: himself out of that. That's special. That does that doesn't
21:15
Speaker 1: grow on trees. It's special. Obviously, his makeup is incredible,
21:20
Speaker 1: but don't forget his head coach. At halftime, Yeah, okay,
21:24
Speaker 1: he goes to the obligatory halftime interview, and he could
21:27
Speaker 1: have been slumped, He could have been a little despondent,
21:30
Speaker 1: he could have been, well, the heck of a year
21:32
Speaker 1: and you know, just for us to get here and
21:34
Speaker 1: let's see if we can just play, you know, hard
21:36
Speaker 1: to second half. He had support for that quarterback and
21:42
Speaker 1: still believed in him. And while he saw it all happen,
21:46
Speaker 1: he didn't let it affect and like, Okay, I'm going
21:48
Speaker 1: to change everything we do. We just have to play better.
21:51
Speaker 1: This kids are it's amazing when you put all that together.
21:55
Speaker 1: But Jacksonville did in one season's time. But Doug Peterson
22:00
Speaker 1: and his staff did and assessing what they were getting
22:03
Speaker 1: coming in in terms of how to relate to players
22:05
Speaker 1: and what players needed from them. To start it all off,
22:08
Speaker 1: You and I saw each other in the summer and
22:10
Speaker 1: we had a conversation about that, and you told me
22:12
Speaker 1: that process had started already. This staff knew what they
22:15
Speaker 1: were doing in terms of you can't just come in there.
22:17
Speaker 1: That's not what that team needed. That team needed, they
22:20
Speaker 1: needed some hey, they needed a chance to trust this
22:22
Speaker 1: teams and they did all of that. Now you put
22:24
Speaker 1: all together and they've been accumulating talent. It wasn't just
22:28
Speaker 1: last year's draft. They've been accumulating talent for a while
22:31
Speaker 1: and it's all paid off. Charles Davis with us soul.
22:35
Speaker 1: All right, here comes Calvin Ridley, Evan Ingram. They've they've
22:40
Speaker 1: been talking still. We'll see what that happens in the
22:42
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. You bring Ridley in on top
22:44
Speaker 1: of Kirk and Zay Jones and Evan Ingram, and if
22:47
Speaker 1: they draft another tight end. I mean, this is an
22:50
Speaker 1: offense all of a sudden, you're adding different pieces. What
22:52
Speaker 1: would Ridley do for this offense? And what would it
22:55
Speaker 1: open up for all the rest of those drafts? Yeah,
22:57
Speaker 1: I think you just neda would well it opened up?
22:58
Speaker 1: You know Ridley if he come back the way you
23:01
Speaker 1: would expect him to come back. If we see the
23:02
Speaker 1: Riddley that we saw before he had to take his
23:05
Speaker 1: sabbatical from football, he'll see the speed. You'll also see
23:09
Speaker 1: it ability to make plays. He's not just a speech
23:11
Speaker 1: or runs downfield. Hey look at me, look over here.
23:13
Speaker 1: So these guys can run routes. If you don't go
23:15
Speaker 1: cover him, he's gonna beat you, right, He's gonna make
23:18
Speaker 1: plays and He's not simply a goball guy. He can
23:20
Speaker 1: do other things as well. So now you open up
23:23
Speaker 1: things now if you're having Ingram. Obviously, as you pointed out,
23:26
Speaker 1: professional football money makes a difference at all, But my goodness,
23:30
Speaker 1: all things being equal, why would you want to be
23:33
Speaker 1: anywhere else? Just had the best cheer of your career.
23:35
Speaker 1: You have a young quarterback there, you got a coach
23:37
Speaker 1: in the staff that believes in you. If you don't
23:40
Speaker 1: think this is the place to be, well, if someone
23:42
Speaker 1: comes from crazy offer, I get all that. I'm not.
23:44
Speaker 1: I don't deal with people's money. That's their issue. I said.
23:47
Speaker 1: I'll say it again, all things being equal, this is
23:50
Speaker 1: the spot for him where he could continue to blossom.
23:53
Speaker 1: That was the Evan Ingram. Everyone with the Giants draft
23:55
Speaker 1: the first round guy. That's the guy that they drafted,
23:58
Speaker 1: and he will continue to get better because everyone else
24:00
Speaker 1: will get better on offense around him. And it's nice
24:03
Speaker 1: to see Etn be a running back. Yeah I left
24:06
Speaker 1: him off the list, But that slot receiver thing, what
24:11
Speaker 1: were they thinking? What was going on? I mean, come on,
24:14
Speaker 1: past regime, that was all coming I know, But what
24:16
Speaker 1: were you thinking? Did you watch his tape at Clemson.
24:20
Speaker 1: Wasn't that guy. By the way, slot receivers grow on trees.
24:24
Speaker 1: There are a lot of out there. Great running backs
24:26
Speaker 1: don't grow on trees. So I'll stop there. There you
24:30
Speaker 1: have it, both the Cosella and Davis pods on the
24:32
Speaker 1: official Jaguars podcast network. Let's rap with three guests from
24:36
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Our Radio Thursday. We start with heading team
24:40
Speaker 1: position for the Jaguars, Kevin Kaplan from Jacksonville Orthopedic Institute,
24:44
Speaker 1: explaining the medical evaluation process at the combine. The most
24:49
Speaker 1: important part of the combine experience for these players is
24:51
Speaker 1: the medical evaluation, and certainly for the teams that want
24:55
Speaker 1: to get exposed to these players and see what's really
24:58
Speaker 1: going on. That's where you and your alf come in.
25:01
Speaker 1: So take us through the process. Is there a room?
25:04
Speaker 1: Are there multiple rooms? Do the players roll through? Do
25:07
Speaker 1: you get to just cherry pick guys? I mean, how
25:10
Speaker 1: does that work for the position? Yeah? I mean, I'm
25:12
Speaker 1: sure you know this. The way this whole NFL Combine
25:15
Speaker 1: really started was medical, right. Doctors are saying, Hey, we're
25:17
Speaker 1: bringing guys in, we don't know anything about them, you know,
25:19
Speaker 1: and so can you tell us what their medical risk? Is,
25:21
Speaker 1: and that's how this whole thing started, and then the running,
25:23
Speaker 1: the jumping, all that kind of followed suit. So the
25:26
Speaker 1: way it works is there are rooms of physicians. It's
25:29
Speaker 1: our room has been the same at least ever since
25:31
Speaker 1: I've been around. It's the same group of guys. So
25:33
Speaker 1: it's us, the Titans, the Jets, the Chargers, and the Bengals.
25:37
Speaker 1: So you're very familiar with the guys that are in
25:39
Speaker 1: your room. And every single player that's here, you know,
25:43
Speaker 1: the combine comes to that room, and so they'll bring
25:46
Speaker 1: them in one by one. There's a kind of a
25:48
Speaker 1: pre combined screen where they talk to the players, getting
25:52
Speaker 1: an idea of their medical history, and so they gather
25:54
Speaker 1: information from the time they were in high school playing
25:56
Speaker 1: football through I mean even before that. Guys have had
25:59
Speaker 1: injuries when they are five and six years old that
26:01
Speaker 1: are on their injury. Really at every piece of information
26:03
Speaker 1: you can gather is there. So a lot of scans,
26:06
Speaker 1: X rays, MRI, CT scans are done before you can
26:09
Speaker 1: get here. So they bring a player in one by one.
26:11
Speaker 1: They'll be a presentation. The player will be there on
26:14
Speaker 1: the exam table and they'll present the player to us
26:17
Speaker 1: and say this is what you know, who the player is,
26:19
Speaker 1: these are the injuries he's had, and then they'll go
26:21
Speaker 1: through the examination and say, you know that in his
26:24
Speaker 1: shoulders stable, his knees got a little swelling to it,
26:27
Speaker 1: He's incisions are healed, etc. Etc. And then we're free
26:31
Speaker 1: to get up and feel and get a look. There's
26:33
Speaker 1: certain guys that we're looking at specifically, but you want
26:36
Speaker 1: to have an overall look because you know how it
26:38
Speaker 1: is through the year, they're always working the back into
26:40
Speaker 1: that roster. So they may not the Jaguars may not
26:42
Speaker 1: be interested in a player today, but that guy may
26:45
Speaker 1: come to you as a free agent, you know, three
26:46
Speaker 1: months from now. So you get a good idea of
26:48
Speaker 1: that player. So you take notes on everybody, or at
26:50
Speaker 1: least I do, and then you know when it comes
26:52
Speaker 1: time to grading the player. Have a grading scale because
26:55
Speaker 1: I want to be able to easily relay the information
26:57
Speaker 1: to Trent and to Dug and to Fir and say
26:59
Speaker 1: this guy is is this level of risk? You know?
27:02
Speaker 1: And there's it's a Every team has a different scale.
27:05
Speaker 1: Vers there's one to five. You know, the ones we're
27:07
Speaker 1: the healthiest guys typically are the punters and kickers that
27:09
Speaker 1: come in. It's just the way it works, and fives
27:12
Speaker 1: is a fail and it's very rare to fail someone orthopedically.
27:15
Speaker 1: Those are typically the medical to heart stuff. So then
27:18
Speaker 1: I go back home, make sure I've reviewed all the MRIs,
27:20
Speaker 1: and then we have a medical meeting where we go
27:22
Speaker 1: through every guy that they're interested on their board as
27:25
Speaker 1: is there a medical risk there and what is the
27:27
Speaker 1: medical risk. Also on the show, Kirk Morrison, former Jags
27:30
Speaker 1: linebacker and now host on Sirius XM NFL radio and
27:34
Speaker 1: an ESPN college football analyst. Everyone kind of gets the
27:38
Speaker 1: state of the Union address for each franchise, you know,
27:41
Speaker 1: general manager, head coach. They come out and talk and
27:45
Speaker 1: you're sort of recapping last season because now we have
27:49
Speaker 1: time for everyone to trying to evaluate what happened and
27:54
Speaker 1: now what do we need to look forward to. And
27:56
Speaker 1: everybody says, hey, well, this is what you guys need
27:58
Speaker 1: to improve on. You guys got to go get sever
28:00
Speaker 1: you gotta go get a you know, running back, a linebacker,
28:03
Speaker 1: defensive vent and so it's always fun to come to
28:06
Speaker 1: Indy and get the sort of the state of the
28:08
Speaker 1: union of where the team is at. They won't tell
28:11
Speaker 1: you who they're going to pick. But obviously, how do
28:13
Speaker 1: you feel about certain players on your roster as we
28:16
Speaker 1: also get ready to hit free agency. Yeah, there's a
28:18
Speaker 1: little bit too obviously that it's the first time most
28:21
Speaker 1: media has talked to most of these guys since they've
28:23
Speaker 1: been in the bunker and really looked back on what
28:26
Speaker 1: they really did. You know, they look at tape week
28:29
Speaker 1: to week, but they started to do a deep dive
28:31
Speaker 1: or what they need and then they come out, Kirk,
28:34
Speaker 1: and they tell you nothing. Yeah, I mean the stories
28:39
Speaker 1: I write from here are always yeah, there's a pretty
28:41
Speaker 1: good lead, and then they'll say, yeah, we need to
28:42
Speaker 1: get better at X. But then they really never go
28:44
Speaker 1: into very much, which you don't expect. A story of
28:47
Speaker 1: the Dog and Pony Show if you will, Kirk, not
28:50
Speaker 1: every player who's been with the Jaguars in the last
28:52
Speaker 1: twenty years has great memories. But I know you're two
28:55
Speaker 1: thousan ten seasons you spent with him. Tell me just
28:58
Speaker 1: the best memory you have it that season. Because there
29:01
Speaker 1: was an underrated season, I think a lot of fans
29:04
Speaker 1: have forgotten how good that team was or almost was.
29:07
Speaker 1: That team was the best team that I've actually played
29:10
Speaker 1: on the National Football League. I played eight years in
29:11
Speaker 1: the league, and that twenty ten team was uh was one.
29:14
Speaker 1: I still have lifelong friendships for playing one year in Jacksonville,
29:18
Speaker 1: and I was so upset. I wanted to play a lot,
29:20
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot longer because not only did I
29:23
Speaker 1: even being able to embrace the Jacksonville community, the people,
29:27
Speaker 1: the fan base. It was so fun. And David Garrard
29:30
Speaker 1: was an exceptional quarterback. He played outstanding that year. Uh,
29:34
Speaker 1: Josh Scobee, Scobe Scobie Bryant, you know, because he was
29:39
Speaker 1: just automatic that year. He had I think he kicks
29:42
Speaker 1: Homedy in a row. He was outstanding. But Maurice Jones
29:45
Speaker 1: drew a guy who you know, we grew up in
29:47
Speaker 1: the same area in northern California. Yeah kid, Yeah, And
29:50
Speaker 1: so to be able to be on the team with him,
29:53
Speaker 1: and to think that Marcedes Lewis in the career that
29:56
Speaker 1: he had a career still playing, he had a career year,
30:00
Speaker 1: you know, a career year Pro Bowl year for him
30:02
Speaker 1: in twenty ten. And the coaches, obviously Jack del Rio,
30:05
Speaker 1: but you see some of the other coaches and what
30:07
Speaker 1: they've been able to do that were on that staff.
30:09
Speaker 1: Corey Unland has been an outstanding coach. You look at
30:12
Speaker 1: some of the offensive mine Todd Monkin, who was now
30:16
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator in Baltimore, and he was the receiver's coacher,
30:21
Speaker 1: and so you had all of these I mean, head
30:25
Speaker 1: coach of Michigan State, right was Tucker that was our decourd.
30:29
Speaker 1: So I had all of these offensive minds and people
30:32
Speaker 1: who are around us, and I'm saying, wow, this is unbelievable.
30:36
Speaker 1: But it was such a good season. I wish we
30:38
Speaker 1: could have finished it off. We went eight and eight.
30:40
Speaker 1: We had an opportunity but still paid Manning was paid Manning,
30:44
Speaker 1: and we had a game that allowed us if we
30:47
Speaker 1: beat you know, the Indianapolis Colts in a week I
30:50
Speaker 1: believe it was thirteen at the time, we win the division.
30:54
Speaker 1: And we lose that matchup, and we didn't finish the
30:57
Speaker 1: job down the stretch, and so we lost. But man
31:00
Speaker 1: and you mentioned that one of the great seasons that
31:02
Speaker 1: I know I've had a chance to play in my career.
31:04
Speaker 1: And finally, CBS Sports senior writer Pete Priscoe, tight end
31:07
Speaker 1: Evin Ingram and right tackle Juan Taylor are the priorities
31:11
Speaker 1: as the new league year approaches. Well, Evan Ingram wasn't
31:14
Speaker 1: going anywhere no matter what they were trying there. They
31:16
Speaker 1: probably still are trying to get a deal done with
31:18
Speaker 1: him if they can't get the deal right, if they
31:21
Speaker 1: don't get the deal done with him, but if they
31:23
Speaker 1: don't get the deal done with him before they even
31:24
Speaker 1: put the because they haven't officially put the tag on
31:26
Speaker 1: them yet there, they're going to do it one way other.
31:28
Speaker 1: He will be in Jacksville next year no matter what.
31:31
Speaker 1: But if they get him tagged, then maybe what do
31:35
Speaker 1: you do with with You know, Juan Taylor personally, And
31:39
Speaker 1: I said that to them. I would not let Juan
31:41
Speaker 1: Taylor out the door. He's too valuable. This is an
31:44
Speaker 1: offensive team. You have a franchise quarterback. Make sure the
31:49
Speaker 1: offense is every bit as good as it can be.
31:51
Speaker 1: And by keeping Juwan Taylor there, I think, and Evan
31:54
Speaker 1: Ingram there, and you add Ridley to the equation. And
31:56
Speaker 1: by the way, I hear nothing but good things about
31:59
Speaker 1: his ability to work out. He's supposedly flying around in
32:03
Speaker 1: his workouts. Then all of a sudden, your offense is
32:05
Speaker 1: pretty much set. You need a big banger back, But
32:07
Speaker 1: aside from that, you're pretty much set there. Well, they
32:09
Speaker 1: were tenth in the league in offense last year and
32:11
Speaker 1: really spent the first seven or eight games trying to
32:13
Speaker 1: figure out where they were, and then they got you know,
32:16
Speaker 1: so I anticipated what you're talking about them being. I
32:19
Speaker 1: think there ought to be a top three or four
32:21
Speaker 1: offense next year based on that, and I agree. I
32:23
Speaker 1: don't think they want to let Joan Taylor out the door.
32:26
Speaker 1: I think there will be a point, you know, as
32:29
Speaker 1: with any number, that it might get too big for him.
32:33
Speaker 1: I don't think you can necessarily say we can't about
32:35
Speaker 1: the door at any price. And that's a matter of
32:37
Speaker 1: how Drew wants to come in. And if Drew really
32:39
Speaker 1: wants to get into free agency, it's gonna be tough. Yeah,
32:41
Speaker 1: it will be tough, and particularly you know, some teams
32:43
Speaker 1: look at it. There's a desperation for offensive lineman, which
32:46
Speaker 1: might drive up this price. I mean, I did the
32:47
Speaker 1: top one hundred ranking of the lineman and I think
32:50
Speaker 1: he was seventh. Amount of the players. I think I
32:52
Speaker 1: am seventh. That's how much I feel about all players. Yeah, okay,
32:55
Speaker 1: that's how much I feel about his growth this year.
32:57
Speaker 1: I mean, he was that good. I'd find a way
32:59
Speaker 1: to keep them, because if you don't keep them, then
33:01
Speaker 1: what are your options or you're moving one of those
33:05
Speaker 1: guys to right tackle. Walker Little proof he couldn't play
33:08
Speaker 1: right tackle, at least it didn't look like he could.
33:10
Speaker 1: So I think that's a problem. So keep this offense.
33:13
Speaker 1: This is an offensive team. Don't weaken it. And if
33:16
Speaker 1: you weak, if you go in, let's just say you
33:18
Speaker 1: keep all those guys. Yeah, you got three tackles. Guys
33:21
Speaker 1: go down in this league too, We've seen that before.
33:23
Speaker 1: And if you don't, one of them maybe can play
33:26
Speaker 1: left guard, and you know, probably would be Walker Little
33:28
Speaker 1: would play left Guardaniel of a sudden, you have a
33:30
Speaker 1: giant offensive line, big offensive line around that quarterback. So
33:35
Speaker 1: that's what I would do. And and I think they're smart,
33:37
Speaker 1: they realize what they're gonna do, and I think they'd
33:40
Speaker 1: love to keep them. They keep it intact and build
33:42
Speaker 1: it around Trevor Lawrence. But we'll see it's hard to
33:44
Speaker 1: do when you have cap problem. And of course, since
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Speaker 1: that conversation, Ingram has been franchise tagged as of Monday,
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Speaker 1: March sixth, then we'll see what happens with Taylor before
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Speaker 1: the March fifteenth started the league year, if anything that
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Speaker 1: will do it. Coming up this week, the Ozone Podcast
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Speaker 1: from In with Peter King of NBC Sports and Maurice
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Speaker 1: Jonestrew of NFL Media. Enjoy the week and thanks for listening.
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