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Diddy's Release Date Changes Again, WHY? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: Shock announcement Sean Combs aka Diddy aka Puff Daddy aka
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  Speaker 2: Puffy aka Love Shawn Combs now set to leave prison
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  Speaker 2: even sooner. His release date moved up yet again. You
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  Speaker 2: know what, there just ain't no justice. I'm Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for
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  Speaker 2: being with us. You heard it. Shawn Combs set to
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  Speaker 2: be released from his four year prison sentence even earlier
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  Speaker 2: than projected. His sentence shaved for a third time. He
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  Speaker 2: will now be freed Feb twenty three, twenty twenty eight,
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  Speaker 2: two months earlier than before. His sentence has already been
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  Speaker 2: reduced before. Right now, he's in New Jersey's FCI Fort Dix,
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  Speaker 2: the Federal Correctional Institute. He was originally set to be
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  Speaker 2: released in May of twenty eight after his convictions on
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  Speaker 2: two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution. Now it's
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  Speaker 2: been shaved down again. He had a rocky start behind bars.
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  Speaker 2: Claims he drank moonshine and made unauthorized phone calls. His
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  Speaker 2: lawyer denied it all. Notwithstanding he keeps getting time shaved
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  Speaker 2: off his sentence. I wonder why what landed him there
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  Speaker 2: in Fort Dick's FCI Federal Correctional Institute to start with.
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  Speaker 2: After a split verdict where Shawn Combs is acquitted AVYCO,
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  Speaker 2: two other accounts come into play. Shawn Comb's convicted on
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  Speaker 2: two felony accounts. There was a massive argument via paper
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  Speaker 2: to keep Shawncmbs behind bars, the defense fighting tooth and
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  Speaker 2: nail to let him out on appeal bond, which means
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  Speaker 2: you get out while your conviction is being appealed. Joining
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  Speaker 2: me right now TISA Tales. You can find her on
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  Speaker 2: YouTube at TISA Tales.
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  Speaker 3: TISA.
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  Speaker 2: Start at the beginning, Start with the verdict, the split.
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  Speaker 4: What happened when the jury walked in, everybody was on
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  Speaker 4: pins and needles.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody in the courtroom expected him to be guilty on
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  Speaker 4: at least the sex trafficking. There was a somber tone
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  Speaker 4: they walked in and when they said please read, and
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  Speaker 4: they said, what do you find ye on Count one?
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  Speaker 4: Not guilty? It was a bomb that went off in
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  Speaker 4: the courtroom.
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  Speaker 3: The public audibly guess nobody was expecting that.
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  Speaker 4: There were tears of joy from Diddy's side. Count two,
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  Speaker 4: what say ye not guilty?
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  Speaker 3: Again? Another bombshell. What off. People were in utter disbelief.
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  Speaker 4: Even Didty's most ardent supporters did not expect him to
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  Speaker 4: get off on the count of sex trafficking.
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  Speaker 3: With Cassie count three.
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  Speaker 4: When they said guilty for transportation of a prostitute.
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  Speaker 3: When they said guiltyject for.
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  Speaker 4: The man a, that is when Didy's team actually cheered, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's all right, okay, okay, come on, almost like we
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  Speaker 4: were watching a pro football game. When the other ones
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  Speaker 4: came in after that, there were jaws on the ground.
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  Speaker 3: It was unbelievable. People were looking at the jury, searching and.
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  Speaker 4: To how they can get a verdict in this day
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  Speaker 4: and age. They heard Cassie's mother, the twenty thousand, they
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  Speaker 4: heard Capricorn Clark, they heard.
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  Speaker 3: About the savage beatings, and it.
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  Speaker 4: Was unbelievable that the only thing they said was prostitution.
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  Speaker 4: And that is because Daniel Phillips in his testimony actually said,
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  Speaker 4: at least I'm guessing that was because that he got
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  Speaker 4: paid to have sex for money. It was a travesty.
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  Speaker 4: It was an all out circus. Everybody, including myself, are
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  Speaker 4: running to safety.
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  Speaker 2: I got a question for your teas of tails, and
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  Speaker 2: everyone's going to want to know this.
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  Speaker 1: You had to leave the courthouse.
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  Speaker 4: Why I had to leave the courthouse because Didy's supporters
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  Speaker 4: were out of control the first time I ran and
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  Speaker 4: dipped my life.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, I had two armed security guys.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone told me. The people in the courthouse is like,
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  Speaker 4: make sure you have security. There's a lot of weird
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  Speaker 4: stuff going on. It wasn't just me, but I'll tell
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  Speaker 4: you what I experienced. Diddy's supporter is surrounding me, threatening me,
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  Speaker 4: saying that they were going to hurt me.
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  Speaker 3: It was a serious situation. It got so bad and there.
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  Speaker 4: Was so much chaos of chaos and violence that they
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  Speaker 4: actually had to lock the courtroom down and force the
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  Speaker 4: Didty supporters across the street. It was something myself, the
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  Speaker 4: news media, mainstream media, new media have never seen in
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  Speaker 4: their lives level. And again the jurors, I hope to
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  Speaker 4: god they know how to sleep at night, because again
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure they did their duty. But when all that
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  Speaker 4: cast was happening, as I was being threatened and ushered
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  Speaker 4: out by armed security people, I thought, this is what
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  Speaker 4: the jury did. They sent a signal that it is
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  Speaker 4: okay to use violence, it's okay to drug people up.
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  Speaker 4: It's okay to live a life of debauchery. It's okay
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  Speaker 4: to do whatever you want because guess what if you
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  Speaker 4: work hard.
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  Speaker 3: Enough and you have enough money and.
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  Speaker 4: Enough delusional fans, and.
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  Speaker 3: You have engrained yourself in culture enough that you can
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  Speaker 3: do whatever you want, and twelve of your peers will
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  Speaker 3: look the other way. Again, this jury was shocking past
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  Speaker 3: of tales.
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  Speaker 2: When you say that Shawnkhm's supporters threatened you, what were
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  Speaker 2: they saying.
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  Speaker 4: They were saying, you B you F and B were
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  Speaker 4: going to kill you.
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  Speaker 3: You F and B you work. Apparently I worked for
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  Speaker 3: the fence. You're a plant. You make this all up
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  Speaker 3: because of you. Again, they're not too smart, because of you.
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  Speaker 3: That's how this case got started. We're gonna treat you
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  Speaker 3: worse than we treated Cassie. Cassie, what we do to you,
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be nothing that they had on Cassie. They
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  Speaker 3: were screaming, they were yelling. Some people were saying, apologize
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  Speaker 3: the didty apologize the ditty? Of course, Thank goodness.
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  Speaker 4: We had Lenny and we had Jimmy, two of the
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  Speaker 4: best arm guards out there.
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  Speaker 3: So the one thing.
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  Speaker 4: Is they and also they started foaming like wild dogs
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  Speaker 4: because they realized that I was not an unprotected woman,
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  Speaker 4: and they realized they could not just do what they
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  Speaker 4: felt like, and they started foaming like wild dogs, screaming,
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  Speaker 4: their voices cracking in anger that they ricially wanted to
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  Speaker 4: rip me apart.
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  Speaker 3: This is why their hero had been exonerated.
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  Speaker 4: Even in the best of times, these people that support him,
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  Speaker 4: there's something wrong with it. And I gotta tell you, Nancy,
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't just me.
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  Speaker 3: It was not just me.
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  Speaker 4: It was anybody that didn't have a pro Diddy stamp
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  Speaker 4: from the beginning.
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  Speaker 3: That's who suffered.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me an all star panel. But I want to
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  Speaker 2: thank Tisa Tales for what she's doing tonight. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Rob Shooter is joining me.
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  Speaker 5: Rob.
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  Speaker 1: I really don't know where to start. This is a blow.
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  Speaker 1: This is a huge blow.
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  Speaker 2: To crime victims all over the country. Huge blow. The
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  Speaker 2: big news is right now, Sean Combs is going to jail. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to jail. I was actually worried that somehow
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  Speaker 2: the judge would contriveting the law, and the law is
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  Speaker 2: under the Bell Reform Act that for these two charges
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  Speaker 2: on which he was convicted, he has to go to jail.
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  Speaker 1: There is no appeal bond period.
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  Speaker 2: But I was so concerned that the judge would somehow
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  Speaker 2: find a way to let him walk. And all this time, Shooter,
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  Speaker 2: we've been hearing I've got all these letters here. Here's
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  Speaker 2: one from Deontay Nash in fear. In fear talking about
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  Speaker 2: Combs is long, well documented history, a violent retaliatory behavior.
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  Speaker 1: They're afraid.
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  Speaker 2: Rob'shooter, guys, Shooter knows comes better.
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  Speaker 1: Than any of us. His longtime publicists no more.
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  Speaker 2: But now you can find him at his substack robshooter
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  Speaker 2: dot substack dot com and non ey but Nice podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Shooter.
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  Speaker 2: I got to tell you, it's like a kick in
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  Speaker 2: the stomach when that split verdict came down.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think everybody was done before. Before I continue, then, Nancy,
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  Speaker 6: I just want to send my best to Tisha. What
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  Speaker 6: happened to her outside that courthouse is horrific. It's wrong,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm afraid these people now have been emboldened. When
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  Speaker 6: we heard the judgment, I think we were all shell shocked,
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  Speaker 6: we were all heartbroken, we all felt like we'd been
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  Speaker 6: kicked in the stomach. However, as the day has gone on,
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  Speaker 6: we do have to remember Bonanci that he has been
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  Speaker 6: found guilty of two very serious charges. If any other
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  Speaker 6: celebrity had been charged with those two charges, those alone
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  Speaker 6: and being found guilty, we would be done with them.
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  Speaker 6: So the celebration from Team Diddy, the disappointment from people
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  Speaker 6: who've been watching this as closely as we have. I
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  Speaker 6: think we can take a step back both sides and
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  Speaker 6: realize that this is not a good day for Diddy.
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  Speaker 6: He is now a federal criminal, is in jail tonight,
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  Speaker 6: He's going to remain there, and so at least take
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  Speaker 6: some solace in that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Rob Sheoter, I've been getting flooded by crime victims,
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  Speaker 2: rape victims from all walks of life.
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  Speaker 1: There are upset.
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  Speaker 2: They don't really sound mad, yet they're devastated. They're sad,
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  Speaker 2: they can't believe this has happened. I've been already subjected
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  Speaker 2: to a lot of attacks, verbal attacks, nothing like what
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  Speaker 2: Tisa tells has been subjected to already.
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  Speaker 1: But I give the credit to the prosecutors for going
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  Speaker 1: in there.
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  Speaker 2: And I truly believe this was a David and Goliath,
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  Speaker 2: and they went in against one of the highest profile
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  Speaker 2: personalities in our country, Sean Comes, who many people think
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  Speaker 2: that they know, and they love him, and for some
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  Speaker 2: reason that blinded them, that drowned out everything that three
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  Speaker 2: sex attack victims said, and.
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  Speaker 1: One had the video, one has the video. I just
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it.
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  Speaker 2: Rob Sheeter, give me some insight and to how Sean Comes.
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  Speaker 1: Got a split vertic.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, you're right, he is going to jail on
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  Speaker 2: two felonies, two felonies.
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  Speaker 1: That's a victory that Sean Comes is going to jail.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a victory.
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  Speaker 6: We have to had on for that, Nancy, because in
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  Speaker 6: this moment, in this hour, there's not a lot of hope.
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  Speaker 6: Everything seems so bad. We have let down not just
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  Speaker 6: the people in this case, but victims around the world.
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  Speaker 6: Did He now will be empowered. This is not the
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  Speaker 6: end of the story, Nancy. When he gets out of jail,
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  Speaker 6: if he gets out of jail, he's behavior will not
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  Speaker 6: change because he thinks he has gotten away with it. Again,
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  Speaker 6: if you enable someone, Nancy, they do not change. So
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  Speaker 6: mark my words, Nancy, this is not the end of
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  Speaker 6: the did He story. It's the end of a very,
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  Speaker 6: very sad chapter. And I think we've let a lot
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  Speaker 6: of people down. And as far as being concerned about safety,
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  Speaker 6: I just broke reporting that Cassie has now increased her security.
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  Speaker 6: Cassie in New York, her home now has security increased.
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  Speaker 6: And I think a lot of other people, courageous people
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  Speaker 6: who came forward assistance, people that worked with Diddy came
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  Speaker 6: forward and testified. They're very vulnerable and they are very,
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  Speaker 6: very scared right now.
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  Speaker 2: Lynn Shaw joining me, founder and director Lynn's Warriors, dedicated
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  Speaker 2: to ending sex trafficking and sex.
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  Speaker 1: Abuse on girls and women.
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  Speaker 2: When I learned about the split verdict, I was speechless.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. But it's happened.
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  Speaker 2: So what do you want the prosecutors to do? Go
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  Speaker 2: home and hide under the bed? Should they have just
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  Speaker 2: never even brought the case. They did it because they
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  Speaker 2: believed it, and I still do believe it.
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  Speaker 1: Lynn.
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  Speaker 2: I believe Cassie Ventira was coerced and beaten into having
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  Speaker 2: sex with male sex workers. That's sex trafficking.
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  Speaker 1: I believe her.
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  Speaker 8: I believe Cassie.
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  Speaker 1: I believe Jane.
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  Speaker 8: I believe sex trafficking. This is a sober ref on
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  Speaker 8: everything I've been talking about for about eight weeks now
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  Speaker 8: with this trial that the public and I'm going to
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  Speaker 8: say the jurors, okay, do not understand predation, power, what
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  Speaker 8: sex trafficking is, and a reminder again, this case was
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  Speaker 8: not just about one man. This case was about all
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  Speaker 8: of the victims across the country, the world whose voices
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  Speaker 8: have been silenced because they don't come forward because the
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  Speaker 8: justice system usually picks power, wealth status over believing their truths.
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  Speaker 8: But I want to point out there is hope. I've
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  Speaker 8: spent all day coaching people, talking people, fielding text messages,
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  Speaker 8: and I want to say, you know what, these victims
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  Speaker 8: that reach out to me, Nancy, they're not even angry,
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  Speaker 8: you know what they keep saying. Please Lynn, please remind
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  Speaker 8: everybody we're victims. Please remind everybody we have a voice.
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  Speaker 8: Please remind everybody we are here. And that goes back
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  Speaker 8: to I have to do, we have to do in
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  Speaker 8: society better job of educating about sex trafficking, about trauma, bonding, trauma,
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  Speaker 8: what predation really looks like. This is the most frightening
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  Speaker 8: thing to empower this Sean Combs and I just want
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  Speaker 8: to make the commitment that we will work very hard
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  Speaker 8: to continue reforming, raising awareness and working with the justice system.
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  Speaker 2: Straight back out to Tisa Tales, who has made it
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  Speaker 2: to a safe location, Tasa tales. I want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about what happened when the split verdict was announced in
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  Speaker 2: the courtroom, and then I want to move to the
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  Speaker 2: appeal bond hearing. Let's start with the split verdict. Take
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  Speaker 2: it from the very beginning.
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  Speaker 4: When you heard count one, not guilty, a bomb went
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  Speaker 4: off in the courtroom.
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  Speaker 3: Not guilty. No one could believe it.
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  Speaker 4: Song Didy's calm side even looked around as if they
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  Speaker 4: hadn't heard correctly. No one thought that the jury would
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  Speaker 4: actually go this far. Everybody thought that the delay meant
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  Speaker 4: that he was actually guilty. When the second count was
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  Speaker 4: read again, jaws dropped open.
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  Speaker 3: Did he leaned back in relief, raised his hands. The
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  Speaker 3: defence team was like, yes, I get it. They literally
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  Speaker 3: pulled a magic act.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, they literally pulled a magic act. His team, his side,
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  Speaker 4: started celebrating, started saying yeah.
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  Speaker 3: When we heard the third count, guilty for the prostitution. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone on his side it was like, that's okay, that's okay.
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  Speaker 4: They were clapping, almost like they were watching a football game.
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  Speaker 4: When they first came out with the verdict. The prosecution
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  Speaker 4: was doing what they were doing. They were looking straight.
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  Speaker 4: It is a job. I would assume to look like
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  Speaker 4: they always have it under control.
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  Speaker 3: By the time they got.
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  Speaker 4: To the third count, Marine called me, looked over at
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  Speaker 4: the jury and disbelief.
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  Speaker 3: Literally again, she's always very composed, but even.
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  Speaker 4: For her to finally look over at the jury on
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  Speaker 4: some are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 3: And she just kept looking at the jury as they
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  Speaker 3: read the counts.
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  Speaker 4: Again, I know the jury did their best, but I
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  Speaker 4: cannot feel that justice was served. How can you forget
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  Speaker 4: the vicious beatings? How can you forget the twenty k
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  Speaker 4: the mom had the wire and order for two freak
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  Speaker 4: off tapes not to be released.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's what she thought when she wired it.
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  Speaker 4: How can you forget what happened to Bonna being hung
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  Speaker 4: over balcony.
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  Speaker 3: She might have got the date wrong by a few
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  Speaker 3: days days, but the point is it happened.
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  Speaker 4: How you can forget Deontae Nash and the best friend
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  Speaker 4: Carrie who got a hangar to the head and saw
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  Speaker 4: Cassie get impiled driven into the corner of a bed
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  Speaker 4: on purpose. How can you forget all that and come
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  Speaker 4: back and say, you know what, we don't see anything
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  Speaker 4: criminal here. Again, we can argue about the prosexcuse prostitution
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  Speaker 4: got ditty on the head.
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  Speaker 3: We can argue about the prosecution.
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  Speaker 4: What they could have did better, but the fact that
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  Speaker 4: the jury chose to overlook all that. It brought me
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  Speaker 4: back to what Rob Shooter said weeks ago when I
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  Speaker 4: first started joining you, Nacy, that people get starstrucked and
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  Speaker 4: they want some of that magic. And it makes me
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  Speaker 4: wonder were they starstruck? Were they feeling sorry and trying
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  Speaker 4: to protect a legacy for someone that hit their depravity
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  Speaker 4: and their evil ways behind it.
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  Speaker 1: It makes you wonder crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: The Federal Bureau of Prisons declines to provide any details
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  Speaker 2: on why Sean Combs' release date has been moved up
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  Speaker 2: yet again. They stated, quote, they do not discuss conditions
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  Speaker 2: of confinement for any individual, including release plans. Hmmm. I
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  Speaker 2: hope they warn a few people before he walks free.
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  Speaker 2: Why because Sean comes has a very bad temper and
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  Speaker 2: holds a grudge. Shawn Combs faced many serious charges during
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  Speaker 2: his trial, including sex trafficking, racketeering, all of those who
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  Speaker 2: have landed him behind bars for life, but he was
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  Speaker 2: acquitted on those counts. He was placed in custody at
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  Speaker 2: Brooklyn's notorious MDC the Metropolitan Detention Center, but now has
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  Speaker 2: been transferred to a federal pen at Fort Dix. His
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  Speaker 2: constantly changing release dates have been all tangled up in
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  Speaker 2: claims he drank moonshine aka Pruno behind bars, made unauthorized
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  Speaker 2: cell phone calls, and more. According to reports, behind bars,
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  Speaker 2: he was tipping the bottle with fermented Phanta sugar and apples.
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  Speaker 2: According to sources, Hmmm that said, that is a far
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  Speaker 2: cry from the jet set life he lived before he
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  Speaker 2: was convicted. What happened in court? Back to Tisa Tails
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  Speaker 2: joining us, she had to be escorted by armed guards
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  Speaker 2: out of the courthouse and leave the scene after she
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  Speaker 2: was mobbed by Diddy fans. Explain to me what was
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  Speaker 2: happening outside the courthouse? I understand that was the split
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  Speaker 2: verdict was announced. The Diddy followers, the Diddy worshippers, went
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  Speaker 2: cray outside the courthouse, actually dousing each other with baby
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  Speaker 2: oil and chanting.
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  Speaker 3: They swarmed the circle. It looked like a mush pit
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  Speaker 3: of depravity.
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  Speaker 4: They were spraying baby oil on each other, jumping around,
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  Speaker 4: feeling fantastic. One woman and a pair of Calvin kleinb
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  Speaker 4: breefe and a bra started jumping up and down, wiggling
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: why they sat there spraying baby on her, and the
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: crowd was.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Channing yay, yay, yay go and hyping them up. It
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: was a monstrous.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Bowl of party depravity. When I say I was sickened,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: when I say, I shuck, shook my head. And when
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: I said, these are the peers, these are the jury
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: of the peers. And it makes me wonder as a
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: jury goes home and they look at the television sets
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: and they see what their decision costs and what was
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: on the line, it makes me wonder how can they.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Sleep at night?
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: It was absolute pandemonia in between the jumping up and
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: down with the baby oil woman willingly baby.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Oil being squirted on them, and everybody laughing and having.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: A time like Christmas had just come with Santa and
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: the twel perverted elves.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: What happened after that was even more amazing.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Because while that was going on, there were little fires
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: everywhere of these bands of I don't know if they're
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: in cels, if they're idiots, what was going on looking
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: for anybody they had ever saw make anti ditty contests,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: and by anti Diddy, according to THEILM.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: It is pro justice.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: They were going out their way to make sure.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: That everybody paid.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: And again I said, this is what that jury costs us,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: and let us know.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: It sent a message.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: It's okay to be depraved, it's okay to beat women,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: it's okay to do drugs, it's okay to do whatever
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: you want. And that jury, that jury, when they gave
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: the verdict, signal deck. Again, I'm still coming to terms
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: with how the jury got to this.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Thank god, this man was denied bail, Thank god.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Straight out to Sidney Sunray joining US Crime Stories, investigative
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: reporter on the case from the very beginning break down
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the counts for me, said.
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: Nancy, how one is that racketeering, rico conspiracy. Combs was
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: found not guilty on count one, Count two, three, four,
• 21:42
  Speaker 9: and five are those sex trafficking and transportation to engage
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: in prostitution charges. So there was one count each for
• 21:51
  Speaker 9: Cassey and Jane on both of those charges. So the
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: jury found that Combes was liable for both transportation to
• 21:59
  Speaker 9: eng agent prostitution charges and not guilty on sex trafficking
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: for either Jane or Cassie.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Straight out to Philip Dubay, joining US veteran trial lawyer
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: joining us out of the LA jurisdiction. So debay, this
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: is the breakdown. Count one racketeering not guilty. Count two
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: sex trafficking by force, fraud or coercion as it relates
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: to Cassie Ventira, you know the woman that was beaten
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: in that video and dragged back to a freak off
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: her the one that had to get plastic surgery on
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: her face after.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Didd he beat her up. That one, that's a not guilty.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Count three transportation to engage in prostitution as it relates
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: to Cassie. Guilty that carries a maximum of ten years.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: And that comes, I believe from the sex worker who
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: came in Philip and described Sean Combs wearing a burka
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: from the chin up and make it from the.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Chin down and had him have.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Sex with Cassie on video and directed them that was
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: across state lines. So guilty on that count four, sex
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: trafficking by force, fraud of coercion as it relates to
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Jane victim two not guilty. Count five transportation to engage
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: in prostitution as it relates to Jane guilty. So we
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: got two guilties three not guilties split verdict. So there
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: was great jubilation at first when Diddy followers heard split.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: They heard the words not guilty on count one and
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: went crazy. What do you think is going to happen now, Philip?
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: He will be getting prison time, There's no question.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Right, Another thing debate. Let's get real.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: It's really rare in federal and state court that once
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: you're convicted and a jury convicts.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: You on a violent offence, that you.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Get an appeal bond, which means, okay, judge, I know
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: he just got convicted, but could you please let him
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: walk free now until we take this all the way
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: up to the appellate court and get a decision that
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: rarely works.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Agree? Disagree?
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: I agree one hundred percent.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: No higher court is going to find that this judge
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: abused his discretion by not letting him out or by
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: not setting a bond.
• 24:22
  Speaker 9: You know.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Robert Crispin joining me, private investigator at Crispin Special Investigations,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: former homicide and former vice detective Crispin.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Here's the deal.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: If the judge had granted Shawn Combs a bond and
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: appeal bond. Now remember once he was arrested, Crispin he
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: was kept behind bars. He did not have a bond
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: right for a reason. He's got money, and he squats
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: right over by Teeterborough, the private airport near New York.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: You know, if the judge had given Shawn Combs an
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: appeal bond, he goes straight to Teiteborough and take off.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Probably I don an assumed name. When you fly a
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: private plane, you can give a fake ID.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Just it's not the same as going through TSA.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: At Partsville International or LaGuardia or jfk No, where they
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: will frisk you and look.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: In all your bags. It's not like that. At a
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: private plane.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: You kind of just walk on onto your private plane
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: that he has, have a glass of champagne, and go
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: bye bye us, Hello Paris.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: That's what happens, Crispin.
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: Actually, earlier, just before we came on, Nancy, I was
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: trying to find out where his G five to fifty was,
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: because we know that it was out in La a
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: couple of days ago. I was trying to see if
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: they had already got those guys up and running and
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: that plane was coming eastbound, thinking he was going to
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: probably get out and dip out back out to La
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: or back down here. To Miami, to where his neighbors
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: aren't certainly thrilled about him coming back, but doesn't look
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: like anytime soon he's going to be gracing his presence
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: with these guys. So I was trying to find out
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: where that jet was that I haven't found out yet.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: But the verdict is just it's heartbreaking, and it's a
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: black eye to the victims. It's terrible, horrible for any
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: of these victims that want to come forward, or any
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: witness that wants to put their ass on the line,
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: raise the right hand and testify against somebody. When a
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: jury's going to find that guy not guilty, that's really
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: bad for.
• 26:25
  Speaker 10: These witnesses and victims. They know what's coming. Now. Look
• 26:28
  Speaker 10: what's happened to our reporter As she was leaving the courthouse,
• 26:33
  Speaker 10: they were attacking her. This guy was found guilty of
• 26:36
  Speaker 10: federal crimes.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: And I'd like to point.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Out Rob Sheeter what they were saying to Tisa tails Rob.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: They were saying, we're going to do worse to you
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: than we did to Cassie Shooter. I mean, Diddy has
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: to be condoning this. He has been orchestrating the crowd.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: He's been orchestrating everything.
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Nancy, I think looking for Diddy to do the
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: right thing at this moment is unready.
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: This is who he is.
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: The whole world has seen who he is, and unfortunately
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: there's a large amount of people out there who are
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: just perfectly fine with this. Nobody can pretend anymore that
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: we don't know who did he is. We know we've
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: seen him on tape. That tape will exist forever. We've
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: heard the testimonies, we've heard the accounts, we've heard the details,
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: we've seen them, and yet some people still support him.
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: There's nothing we can do about that, Nancy. And to
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: think that Diddy is going to stop it, that ain't
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: going to happen.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: He's going to encourage it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: He wants people out there, he wants the violence, he
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: wants people screaming. This to him is the party that
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: he always wanted to throw shape.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: You know, Rob Shooter, everything you're saying can be transposed
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: to him before he was arrested. You know, in every case,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I've told you this before off air. I've seen a
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: million homicide scenes, been to the Morgue, I've seen it all.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: But there's always a.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Moment in a trial that just twists the knife is
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: very disturbing. And in this trial, there were two moments
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: like that for me.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: And one was.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: In the Hotel Intercontinental video beat down where she had
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: already been beaten and she was backing up and she
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: tried to hold up She's right handed was holding holding
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: her mouth I think, with one hand, the right hand
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: and holding up her left hand against Sean Comb's like
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: she could fight him off, okay. And the the other
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: moment was when she was getting beaten and she was
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: down on the floor and Combs had a glass, a
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: liquor glass held up ready to throw down at her face,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: and she said, can't you see what's happening?
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: And nobody did anything. It's just like in the courtroom.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: The jury didn't do anything.
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: They didn't.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: They didn't, Nancy.
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: It's heartbreaking. People I know who.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: Have worked with him, who knew him, many of us
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: are on a text exchange and they're heartbroken, and a
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: lot of people are really worried to I don't want
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: to keep hopping on about this, Nancy, but this is
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: a very dangerous man.
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: This is a man who allegedly.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: Try to fire bomb the car of somebody that was
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: dating he's girlfriend, his ex girlfriend. This is a dangerous,
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: dangerous man. And what that jury has just done has
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: said it doesn't matter. It's okay. You keep being puffy,
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: you keep being you, and we will support you. But
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: let me just say, Nancy, we can't just blame the
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: jury here. We've got to blame the person that did it.
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: And that's did he did. He is responsible for all this.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: Everything else is a red herring. He's the problem and
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: he will continue now to.
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: Be a prople.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Doctor Cheryl Errett, who is a clinical and forensic psychologist,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: explain the effect this is going to have on not
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: only these victims that we heard on the stand, but
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: other victims everywhere.
• 30:14
  Speaker 11: Nancy, Once there is the threat of violence, that power
• 30:18
  Speaker 11: control tactic shapes everything that happens after that. We have
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: a jury who heard evidence about a tremendous amount of violence, threats,
• 30:28
  Speaker 11: threats of blackmail, videotaped assaults that were maintaining the power
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: and control, and yet they didn't feel that they had
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: enough evidence to be able to find that what was
• 30:39
  Speaker 11: happening there was not consensual.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Trafficking has to.
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: Do with force, fraud, coercion. Consent is anything, but when
• 30:50
  Speaker 11: somebody really scary makes you an offer that you cannot
• 30:54
  Speaker 11: refuse that is not consent. And what I think people
• 30:58
  Speaker 11: are failing to understand and about the way that the
• 31:01
  Speaker 11: even the threat of violence shapes behavior is that when
• 31:05
  Speaker 11: someone does not believe that they can survive a threat
• 31:08
  Speaker 11: by actually fighting back, they use fawning, They use appeasing,
• 31:13
  Speaker 11: they use the freeze response. They are trying to placate
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: the person who is scaring them. And this man certainly
• 31:19
  Speaker 11: has no shortage of people who were really, really frightened
• 31:23
  Speaker 11: of him and still are. And I think that these
• 31:26
  Speaker 11: really normal autonomic nervous system survival responses, fawning, appeasing, the
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: freeze response, These are things that need to be understood
• 31:35
  Speaker 11: better by juries, understood better by the public, and even
• 31:39
  Speaker 11: by survivors themselves.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: You know, Rob Shooter, Would you look one more time
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: at these celebrations going on outside the courthouse after the
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: split verdict was announced.
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: Take a look, thought, Nancy.
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: I can tell you, as somebody who knows puff those
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: people standing outside that courts have never met him. They've
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: never been to his apartment, they've never been on his
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: private plane. They've never had a text or an email
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: or a phone call with him I have. He doesn't
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: care about any of those people, all those people who
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: have took their time, their energy to go and support
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: this guy. Let me talk to them directly.
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: He does not care about you.
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: If he can treat his girlfriend Cassie the way that
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: we've seen him treat it on video, this is not testimony,
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: this is video. If he can treat someone who he's
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: supposed to love like that, how do you think he
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: can treat you. He doesn't care about you. You're wasting
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: your energy on him, And honestly, my friends, stop, he
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: doesn't care. He's laughing at these people side that Cord has.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: He's egging them on, but he doesn't care.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: You know, Rob Sheeter, you speak with so much conviction
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: and so much feeling, and that tells me that you
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: know something, something you haven't told me.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Why do you believe this?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: What did you observe to make you say what you
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: just said.
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: I've observed a really selfish person, Nancy. I've observed a
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: person who doesn't have any shame, who has no sense
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: of pride, who has no sense of decency. He's a
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: really bad man, and through his career, through the media,
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: through his products. He has managed to come us all,
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: to kid us all into believing he is somebody else. Now,
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: I hoped that day was coming to an end. In fact,
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: I could even tell you the day that I thought
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: it was ending.
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: It was today.
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: I'm absolutely punched to my gut, to my stomach to
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: know that Puffy once again rises. Maybe not like a phoenix,
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: but justice does not feel as if it has been
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: sod sheeter.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Do you know that people aren't flooding the courthouse, the
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: judges chambers with letters please don't let him out.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: We're afraid.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: From Cassie Ventura's lawyer to Deonte Nash, so many others
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: in fear, just like what you're saying. And we heard
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: earlier how this affects people. They saw what happened to
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Kid Cuddy, they saw what happened to Cassie, and now he's.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: Going to walk.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: According to his attorney's quote, his only focus is becoming
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the best version of himself and returning to his family.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Oh if that were only true. Cannon Leopard change his spots.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: This is what we know about what happened in court.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Everyone or I sprang each other with baby oil. Outside
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: the courthouse and baying and yelling and celebrating.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Comes goes back into the.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Courtroom Sydney for the hearing. Right the hearing on is
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: there going to be an appeal bond?
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Is?
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Comes going to walk out of the courthouse a freeman today.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: During that hearing, Comes briefly tries to raise his hand
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: to speak after the judge denies his request for release again.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: The judge seemed to ignore the move and instead asks
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: the US Assistant Attorney Mariene Comy to respond, and she says, quote,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: he is extremely violent with an extraordinary temper, who has
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: shown no remorse.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: And no regret.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: And it makes me think, Sydney, about that fake apology.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I'm going to keep that up and play it for
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: you in just a moment, said where he does all
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: this apologizing after baiting Cassie, but according to what we
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: learned in court and sworn testimony, he continued the violence
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: after the apology video. That's what she said, No remorse
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: and no regret at all.
• 36:22
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that is definitely what the judge and prosecutors are thinking.
• 36:28
  Speaker 9: Comy referenced the violent incident with Jane after Colmmes knew
• 36:33
  Speaker 9: he was already under investigation. The judge referenced the multiple
• 36:38
  Speaker 9: instances of Colme's trying to reach out to potential witnesses,
• 36:43
  Speaker 9: trying to sway their opinions of what they might tell
• 36:47
  Speaker 9: investigators after this investigation began, when Colmes was well aware
• 36:51
  Speaker 9: it was underway. Judge s hermoney and also referenced Mark
• 36:55
  Speaker 9: Acmphillo's own closing arguments. You full throatedly told the jury
• 37:00
  Speaker 9: that there was violence, domestic violence in all of Comb's relationships.
• 37:04
  Speaker 9: Y'all own that, and it may have helped on some
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: of these charges. It may have helped with the guilty
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: not guilty verdict, but it is definitely coming back to
• 37:15
  Speaker 9: bite him.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Now, straight out to Lynn Shaw. This also happened in
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: the proceedings. This is after Combs tried to raise his
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: hand to address the judge directly during the arguments, And
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: this is after the split verdict when everybody was celebrating outside.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Now comes the appeal bond, where the judge is going
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: to decide will comes walk free tonight?
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: The judge looks over at the defense and he says,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: as Sidney just reported.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Quote you full throatedly. I've never even heard anybody use
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: that phrase. But he did.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: You full throatedly in your closing argument told the jury
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: there was violent and domestic violence is violence.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: You said this was the case that did have violence.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: This is the judge talking to Combs as to the
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: basic question of violence. You conceded that in your closing argument.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Now throughout this comes is furiously passing notes back and
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: forth to Agnifilo, who is trying to stand there and
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: argue and read Alla Shan comes his notes.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Wait for it, Lynn Shaw.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Agnifilo responds, I just think we should trust him.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: He's not gonna flee. He just deserves a chance.
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: Lynn, Please let us all get off this dirty diddy,
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: degenerate merry garround that we're all on. How dare that lawyer?
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: How dare he? He's got a wife, he's got a daughter.
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: I believe he's got sisters, a mother, talk like this
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: violence is violence?
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Trust him.
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: We have seen everything to the contrary, including video evidence
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: of Cassie being beaten. How much more do we need?
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: This goes back to this is one of the worst
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: days here at the Warriors to have all of this video,
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: to hear the way they're talking about victims. Trust him.
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  Speaker 8: Trust him. There's no way anybody should trust him. I'm
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  Speaker 8: here in New York City and Rob Shooter's correct. We've
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  Speaker 8: got these dirty Diddy disciples running around. People should be
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  Speaker 8: in fear of this guy. But that brings me to
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  Speaker 8: how does he get away with all of this for decades?
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  Speaker 1: What about the victims that.
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  Speaker 8: I've been up for forty eight hours now, counseling, helping,
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  Speaker 8: giving out phone numbers, resources, Come stay with me if
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: you don't want to be alone. What a slap in
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: the face today to all of these victims, survivors of
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: any kind of sexual abuse. And you know what, this
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  Speaker 8: is the problem with sex trafficking. Nobody, I'm a broken record.
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  Speaker 8: Nobody understands it. Nobody understands what forced for coersion. Nobody
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: understands coersion. And you know what, it is time we
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  Speaker 8: change it up. But this is a travesty. What a
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  Speaker 8: slap in everybody's face.
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  Speaker 2: Sean comes, goes to jail, split verdict, not guilty, en
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  Speaker 2: Rico not guilty on two counts of sex trafficking. Guilty
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  Speaker 2: on two counts bringing people across state lines to engage
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  Speaker 2: in illegal activity, that being prostitution as it relates to
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura, a victim and Jane not her real name,
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  Speaker 2: a victim to Robert Crispin joining me PI, but former
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  Speaker 2: beat coop, former special investigator with the Federal Task Force
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  Speaker 2: for the US Department of Justice, and on and on,
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  Speaker 2: Robert Crispin, have you ever been in a case where.
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  Speaker 1: The bad guy walks?
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  Speaker 9: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: My god, Nancy, this brought back. This brought back such
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  Speaker 5: a memory of a guy.
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  Speaker 10: Who was leaning over the balcony holding two kilas.
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  Speaker 5: Of cocaine in a CBS bag, getting ready to drop
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  Speaker 5: it on the floor because the Feds were knocking on
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  Speaker 5: the front door, and I was covering the back door,
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  Speaker 5: and he dropped it and I got it, and I
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  Speaker 5: I d'ed him, and we went to the jury and
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  Speaker 5: the jury found him not guilty when me, as the
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  Speaker 5: Federal DEA Drug agent, watched him drop that bag. And
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  Speaker 5: you know why, Nancy, because juries are so unpredictable.
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  Speaker 10: You know why we didn't pull his DNA off the bag.
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  Speaker 10: But I watched him. I watched him.
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  Speaker 5: Drop those kilos of cocaine out of the ground.
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  Speaker 10: These juries have a mind of their own.
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  Speaker 1: I know how that must have felt.
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  Speaker 10: Shame.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing is, this is a violent crime.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Philip debay from what the judge was saying. When Shawn
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  Speaker 2: Comes raised his hand trying to speak to the judge
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: while Agniffolo was arguing, the judge acting like he didn't
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: even see him. The judge did note the wide divergence
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: between what the state wants to sentencing and what the
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: defense wants a sentencing, but hearing what the judge said,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: the judge can't just erase from his mind what he
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: saw on the Cassie beat down video. He cannot erase
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  Speaker 2: from his mind what the victim said on the stand.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Comes his lawyers appealed his conviction, demanding a federal appeals
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: court overrule the decision and give him immediate release, calling
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: his former girlfriends Cassie Ventira and Jane who went anonymous
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: on the carpet. He denied all claims, but a jury disagreed. Well,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Shawn Comes, this release date has been well, Shawncambs release
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  Speaker 2: date has jumped up. It's even closer. What's next? I
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  Speaker 2: hate to think about it. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off,
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  Speaker 2: Goodbye friend,