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YOU CAN'T GET THERE FROM HERE · The Karen Kenney Show

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Karen Kenney: It's the Karen Kenney show. Hey you guys.
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Welcome to the Karen Kenney show. I'm so excited to be here
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today, and today I have, like, visual help, helping aids. Just,
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just buckle, buckle up for safety. I'm going to tell you a
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little story. I got some visual aids, and hopefully I'm going to
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share something today that is helpful to you and that you can
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apply to your life right away. That's one of the things about
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this show, is besides just trying to spread a little more
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love in the world, I'm also trying to either, I always say I
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want to either educate or elevate or enlighten or
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entertain, create some sort of emotional connection. You know,
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everybody's got shit to do. Nobody wants to waste their
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time. So if you're tuning in, I want to make it worth your
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while. So we're just going to start off just by diving into
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the title of this sucker, which is, you can't get there from
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here. So recently, I was down in Lawrence mass, which is my
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hometown. It's where I grew up, lawtown and and it was snowing
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out. It was just like a shit show. There was like so much
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snow everywhere. And if you've ever driven in, like a small,
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little city or whatever, and there's a lot of snow, and the
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snow banks get all pushed up, and there's nowhere to park or
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whatever. So I was driving, it was dark, I was in a little bit
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of a rush, and I was trying to get to a certain place, okay?
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And as I was driving, all of a sudden, I looked and I was like,
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Oh yeah, that's the street I want to take. And what I had
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forgotten, because I hadn't driven on this road in a really
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long time in, like, because, like, I'm talking like probably
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35 years, if not more, is that there were two streets right
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after each other that have the similar name. One is like
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reservoir terrace, the next one is like reservoir road, or
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whatever, and I banged the left, unfortunately, onto reservoir
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terrace, which was a dead end street. It's a tiny little
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street I just saw when I was driving reservoir, and I like
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whipped in there. And, of course, all right, so imagine
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all the snow, all the houses are like, like duplexes and triple
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deck is and there's barely any driveways. There's no place to
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turn around, and it's a dead end street, so I'm going down, and
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I'm lined on each side by cars, okay? And then in front of me is
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a car coming towards me. When I realized this is a dead end and
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I also realize I have no place to back up. And I'm like, oh my
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god, I'm gonna have to, like, throw my arm over the back of
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the seat, you know, over the passenger seat, and, like, back
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up, like, in the dock, in the snow while there's a lot of
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traffic coming up April Street. I was like, Oh my God, thank you
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baby Jesus at the very end, because I was like, I'm gonna
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have to back out into this busy intersection. I don't know how
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I'm gonna do this, but fortunately, right there was a
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driveway I could like, you know, back up into and then the guy in
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the truck could go right past me. But one of the things I
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realized, and that I heard in my head, is that I knew where I was
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trying to get to, but I could not get there from here because
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it was a dead end street, and I had gone down the wrong road.
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And it made me think of this old kind of like story, like, and
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it's, I don't know why, it's always usually given like an old
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main farmer, like some farmer from Maine, and there's a couple
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like, driving out, you know, in the, you know, in the land or
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whatever, and they're driving, and they stop and out, they see
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this guy, and they on his tractor or whatever, and they
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stop and ask him for directions. And they're like, Hey, we're
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trying to get to so and so. And he's like, I Yeah, but you can't
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get there from here. That's how it is sometimes, and I want to
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apply this to our everyday lives. And here's the thing, we
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often want things, whether it's actually physical things,
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whether it's internal things. And we'll get more specific in a
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moment, right? We often want new things, better things, different
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things, whatever it is. And the problem that most people have is
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that they're trying to get there, but they cannot get there
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from here, from where they're coming from, what they're doing,
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what they're thinking, right? And one of the things is, is
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that they aren't willing yet. And I always like to say yet,
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because I believe in the power of the capacity for change, is
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that we have to be willing to let go of what's familiar. We
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have to be willing to let go of the here to get to there, and
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you can't hold on to the familiar, the known, the
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pattern, the habit, the way that you've been thinking and doing
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and speaking and behaving. And expect to get the new different
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better thing, the new different, better experience or feeling or
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outcome or relationship or whatever it is, we're not going
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to be able to get there from here if we insist on holding on
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to the way we've always done things, the way we've always
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thought, the way we've always believed the stories we insist
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on telling about ourselves, our own capacity, and others, the
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world, etc. And the challenge is, is that the brain right?
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Just the chemistry of the brain. The brain likes the familiar.
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That's how it finds safety. And the nervous system is always
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seeking safety. So if you have a brain that likes what's
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familiar, that's how it learns. That's how it kind of imprints
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on everything around it's always in comparison and using what
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we've already experienced, what we already think, what we
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already know, believe in the stories we tell, the identity
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that we have. And it's like going into the new that's why
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people are like, you know, their comfort zones, they often don't
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like to leave them, because even though there might be a better
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opportunity, a better relationship, a better
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situation, a better feeling, a better outcome, over there, they
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cannot get there from here. So we have to be willing. And so
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this is where, like, the little visual comes in. I did this
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little drawing, and my sweetie and I were talking about this
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the other day, and he was demonstrating this. It's so fun.
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This is a little drawing of my sweetie. So those of you who are
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listening and not watching, I'm going to describe what's on this
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piece of paper that I drew, I used to love to draw stick men.
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This is a whole that's a whole other story, and we're back. So
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I used to love to draw stick men to do things. Okay, so I'm going
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to show you there's a little stick man, and he has his arms
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reached out in two different directions. Okay, now his left
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arm, and if you're watching this, the left hand is the one
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with the red arrows right, and with his left hand, he's holding
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on to these old things, right? And it's old thoughts, old
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patterns, old beliefs, old stories, old behaviors and an
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old identity. And he's holding on to it tight. He's got a good
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grip on it. But in his right hand, his right hand is
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reaching, and it's like trying to reach across the divide. And
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on the right side, I just drew some symbols that might, you
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know, just symbolize some things that a person might want. They
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might want more time, they might want more love or a better
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relationship. They might want this little happy face. So
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there's like a little clock for time. There's a hat for love,
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relationship, whatever. There's a little smiley face for more
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happiness, right? Then there's a money sign. Maybe somebody wants
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more money or more savings or more income or whatever. And
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then there's, there's a peace symbol. Maybe somebody wants
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more inner peace, or wants more compassion, or whatever it might
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be, right? I also almost drew a muscle like, maybe somebody
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wants more health or fitness or whatever it is. But, you know,
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there's a gazillion things I could have drawn here. But the
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point of this little visual is, I want you to think about it.
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This person is so like insisting on holding on. I'm tapping it
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over here. They're so insisting on holding on to these old ways,
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this old thinking, this old behavior, this old way of being
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and believing. And they're saying, right? They'll say like,
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Oh, but I can't reach it, I can't have it, I can't be it, I
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can't do it right? And I'm like, You're right. You can't. You
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can't do it, not if you're insisting on also holding on to
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these old things, these familiar things, these former things,
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these former versions of you, these former ways of thinking
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and being. And a lot of times, what people really want, and my
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sweetie and I talk about this all the time is they want the
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new thing without letting go of the old thing. They want
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outcomes without doing the work of change. They want
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transformation without
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actually doing the things that they need to do, thinking, the
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things they need to think, becoming the person they need to
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become. Everybody wants change, but most people don't want to
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change, and so we just want to be able to keep doing the same
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old bullshit, but have a different outcome, but you
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cannot get there from here. We have to be willing. We have to
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be willing to let go of those old ways. Ways of being. We have
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to let go of the old version of you. You gotta let go of what
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you've known and what you've done. And you know, that's that
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thing where you hear people say, Well, that's the way we've
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always done it, that's the way it's always been. That's just
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the way they are, that's just the way I am. And I'm like,
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that's fine. We can, we can say that, and we can keep things
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just as they are, but you cannot get there to that new place that
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promised land, that new outcome, that new way of feeling, that
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new relationship, more money, all those things, if you insist
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on staying here doing the same old shit. And so I kind of broke
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it down into like these two sentences that I think can be
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very helpful. People will say so at the end of this, just like
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fill in the blank, right? But the first sentence is usually
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this, I want to be the kind of person who fill in the blank,
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and the second response of the response is, well, then you have
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to stop being if you want to start to be the kind of person
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who fill in the blanks, then you have to stop being the kind of
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person who fill in the blank. I will give you an example. You
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might say, I want to be the kind of person who starts getting up
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at 5am I would say, then you have to stop being the kind of
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person who stays up until midnight, scrolling on their
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stupid phone, because you can't be both, or you can try, but
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you're going to be exhausted because you're not going to get
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enough sleep. You know what I'm saying? Or you might say, I want
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to be, I'm making these up. I want to be the kind of person
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who stops complaining so much, stops whining so much, right?
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Well, then you have to stop being the kind of person who
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appreciates what they have. You might be. Need to be the kind of
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person that practices a little more gratitude. You know, it's
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like, okay, I want to be the kind of person, because they
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always tell you, you want to have three to six months of
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savings, and in your emergency fund, in your savings, right?
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And you might say, Okay, I want to be the kind of person who has
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an emergency savings fund of like, at least three to six
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months. Okay, well, then you have to be a person who makes a
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plan or makes a budget or stops buying shit you don't really
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need. This is about becoming and this is about though baby steps.
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Because a lot of times we think, oh, I want to make this change.
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I want to have whatever it is, more health, more peace, more
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love, more money, more fill whatever it is, right, more
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success, right? I want to have more strength. I want to have
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better cardio. I want to have less high blood brain. I want to
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have better blood pressure. Or I want to lower my cholesterol.
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Yeah, you want to lower your cross cholesterol. Stop eating
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all those dead animals in the in the byproducts of animals,
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right? That's one of the fastest ways to start to change that.
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Okay, so, but it's about taking baby steps. We can't usually
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just swoop in and, like, go cold turkey and do 100% now, there
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are certain things you want to go cold turkey on right? If you
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want to be somebody who is not, let's say that you're somebody
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who has, you know, substance use, with substance abuse or
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substance overuse or whatever, with alcohol or whatever, yeah,
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those situations going cold turkey might be really, really
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smart, but with personality and just patterns and ways of
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thinking and believing, right? Sometimes we just might want to
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start or going to the gym or saving more money, right? It's
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not all of a sudden, like you're just gonna pull like $10,000 out
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of your ass. You might have to, like, little baby steps. You
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know what I'm saying? So it's about becoming, it's about baby
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steps, and it's also, here's the big one, becoming the kind of
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person who baby steps, like, build on those tiny little wins,
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set little goals so that you can actually accomplish them, and
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then you feel victorious, and you get like, Yes, I can do
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this. And you kind of build on your little victories and your
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successes. And then it's about being able to pause long enough
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to recognize that you're about to think, say or do the old
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pattern. That's one of the biggest things. It's all great
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and fine and dandy to say, I want a thing. I want to be the
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kind of my hair is like crazy right now. I want to be the kind
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of person who, or I want to be able to, or I want to stop, or
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stat, or whatever the thing is. But if you can't catch yourself
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in the act if you're not even aware that you're about to do
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the thing at some point, we have to be able to have the
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awareness, enough awareness to be able to pause and observe our
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thinking, our saying. In our doing or are about to do. I
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mean, ideally, if we can catch it before we even do it, before
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the words leave our mouth, before the the HO, HO gets in
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the mouth, before the whatever, the thing that you're about to
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say, think, believe, do you know that's ideal. But even if you
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can catch yourself in the act and stop yourself, pump the
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brakes, hit the pause button. That's like, really, really,
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really big. And if we can put a pause in your pattern, right,
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your patterns of behaviors, or your patterns of thinking, you
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can put a pause in your mind so that you can make a different
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choice. That's like a superpower. And so much of this
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just comes down to again, so often, you know, when I think
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about why I talk about having a DSP and a daily spiritual
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practice, why it's so important, because one of the components of
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at least the way that I talk about, in and teach and share
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about having a DSP is that some of the first steps are number
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one, like slowing down, like helping you and your nervous
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system so that you can start your your mind, your body, so
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it's like your brain, your body right, your breathing, all these
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things so that we can start To slow down, so that we can
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actually experience, like a pause. We can we can get in that
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place. So if we learn how to slow down, if we learn how to
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deepen our breath, because when we when we change our breath, we
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change our physiological state right, which also, over time,
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will help our mental state right. And this is why I'll talk
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about, like having a DSP, because learning how to slow
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down and learning how to meditate, and we often think
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that meditation is just like quieting all of my thoughts, and
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I have to silence myself, and I have to sit very still. Yeah,
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there are forms of meditation where you do sit still, where
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you do get quiet, huh? It doesn't mean all your thoughts.
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We're not trying to silence the mind. Good luck with that,
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right? We want to quiet it a little bit, turn it down, the
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volume a little bit. But the mind is going to mind. The brain
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is going to brain. It's going to do what it does, which is it
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thinks thoughts, right? Does all kinds of things. But one of the
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things it does, it thinks thoughts, right? But if we can
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start to slow things down, and we can start to get a little
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more self aware, so that there's a pause so we can choose who and
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how we want to be. Right to me, meditation and having a DSP,
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these are the things that lead to freedom and happiness. Being
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able to train your mind, train your senses, it's such a
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powerful thing, okay? And there, like I said, there's, there's
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1000 ways to meditate. I have some very simple ones that I
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teach people. One of the main ones is like passage meditation,
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which was taught to me from eknashwaran, which is like
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meditation on a passage like, it's like memorizing, let's say
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the prayer of St Francis, right? Make me an instrument of thy
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peace where there is hatred, let me sow love, etc, etc, right?
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For some people, it might be the Serenity Prayer, whatever it is
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you meditate on that passage, the Buddha is said to have said,
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right, that we become what we think we become what we meditate
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on, if we want to be more more peaceful, then we meditate on
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that peacefulness, right? If we want to become more loving, not
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only do we meditate upon it, but we also practice it, right? We
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want to become more like I said, more patient, more loving, more
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kind, whatever. So passage meditation is really powerful.
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Repetition of a mantra can be very powerful, a very simple
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meditation where you're keeping your awareness on your breath.
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And you can just start with like, five minutes, 10 minutes.
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Maybe I'll do a whole little maybe I'll do a whole other
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episode on just a little quick little meditation practice, but
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learning how right to just kind of sit your ass down and again,
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I know for some people, that's sitting still, but there's
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walking meditation, there's mindfulness, right? Walking with
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being mindful, or just even throughout your day, having
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these little moments of mindfulness and connection can
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be a really big thing, okay? And we'll get into that. But so much
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of being able to change, right, is actually being aware that
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you're doing the thing that you actually don't want to be doing,
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that you're doing the the here, when
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you're trying to eventually get there. And I'm all into be here
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now, but part of being here now is recognizing, right, what
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you're doing in the here, what you're thinking, what you're
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saying what you're believing. Okay, now here's one of the
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things people will often say to me, like, but it's so hard, it's
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really hard. Like, like, being vulnerable is hard, or being
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honest sometimes is hard, or speaking my truth is hard. Or
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what? Don't fill in the blank, right? We know that when we try
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to change behaviors, we'll often say, but it's hard, and I'll
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often say, like, and this was something that you know,
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Marianne Williamson used to say at her lectures, and it always
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made me laugh. And I'm like, Yeah, as if being miserable is
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easy, as if being in that old pattern and way of being is
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easy, as if your suffering is easy, What's hard is it's not so
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much. I would say that the easier that you can let go.
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Right of the old things come back to this picture, the easier
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that you can just take your hand off the wheel, take your hand
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off it. Stop doing the old thoughts and patterns and
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beliefs and stories and behaviors and identity, right?
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The easier you can just let it go. The easier the next thing
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can come in. The easier that you just let go of the past, right?
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The previous the former. The easier it is for the new you,
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the new version, the new behavior, the new belief, to get
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wired in, to have a new experience, right? To have the
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thing that you actually want. It's not often that it's hard,
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it's that it's unfamiliar. It's new that seems scary, that's
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valid, but it's not that. It's actually usually hard. And I
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tell this story, right? So I do this exercise with people. I've
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done it when I've, when I've, you know, had speaking gigs and
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stuff in the past. I'll often bring people, or a person up on
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stage, and I do this in yoga class sometimes too, and I'll
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have them hold a yoga block, and I have them stick their arms out
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straight, straight off their shoulders, like straight off
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their body, like they're walking like a zombie, right? And or
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they're hypnotized, or whatever. You know that old, the old
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Scooby Doo hypnotized when your arms are out in front, okay? So
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their arms are out in front and between their two hands,
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probably about like, six inches, or whatever, a pot they're
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holding a thick yoga block, and I have them hold that block out
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in and they're just holding on to it, and they're squeezing.
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And I have them do this for like five minutes sometimes, but I'm
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talking to them through the whole time, right? And I'll say,
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no, no. So how is this? How's holding this? And in the
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beginning, it's not too bad, right? And then over time, their
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arms start to get tired. Their arms start to shake. Because
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I'll say, no, no, keep holding on, hold on harder. Hold on
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harder. Right? Of course, the block is symbolizing whatever
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the belief, the story, the history, the thing, the habit,
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whatever it is the addiction, whatever the thing is, you know,
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symbolizing for them, representing for them. And I'll
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say, no, no, keep holding on to it. And their arms are starting
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to shake, and their face is getting all like, ah. And I'll
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say, and after doing this for a long time, and I'll say, Okay,
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now let it go. And they finally drop it, and I'll say to them,
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how was that right? I'll say, which was harder holding on to
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the old thing or simply letting it go. And there has to be a
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certain amount of willingness, right? There's a temptation to
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hold on to the old thing, because we think we're safe
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there. We think we're safe there, because we know this,
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even if it's a hell, you're like, I know this brand of hell,
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right? We're too we're too afraid of like, an aspect of
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something new. It's what we call the there's the unsafe known,
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the thing that you know, even though it may not be good for
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you, versus the safe unknown. That thing might be safe, but
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you and your nervous system don't know it yet. Don't believe
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it yet, can't trust it yet, right? So even though the thing
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over there might be better for us, the person, or the
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situation, or whatever the job, whatever it is, might be better.
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We don't, you know, it can be a little little hard, but when you
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hold on to that visual, and you can even do it for yourself,
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just get something and stick your arms out and try to hold on
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to it and squeeze it and get tighter and tighter, like, you
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know, and then, and then, I'm like, and now drop it well,
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letting it go is actually easier, but mentally, we put all
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these attachments onto it. But remember, the easier that you
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can let go, the easier it is for the new thing, the new pattern,
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the new behavior, the new belief, whatever, the new story
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for it to come in. And it's not hard, it just requires a little
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bit more willingness, it requires a little bit more
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focus. It might require a little bit more effort, a little bit
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more commitment or consistency, a little bit more
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accountability, right? That's the thing. It's not hard. It's
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simply unfamiliar. It's simply new. And this is why I said we
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go back to the baby steps. It's about becoming, right? It's
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about practicing. It's about those baby steps, those little
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wins. And whether it's like, you know, as somebody who does Thai
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Yoga massage, right, people will say to me, Oh, I'm so tight, you
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know, so. Tight. I really need to stretch more. And I'll be
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like, well, you can, you could always just start stretching on
25:06
your own. You could always come to one of my yoga classes. You
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could always come and get a Thai Yoga massage. But if you insist
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on just keep doing the same old shit, which is not stretching at
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all, and then you wonder, why? Oh, my hips hurt, my back hurts,
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my neck hurts, my my jaw, everything, everything's tight,
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right? My glutes are tight, my calves, everything's tight.
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Everything hurts when I stand, when I move. I'm like, Well, are
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you doing any movement? Are you doing any stretching? Are you
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doing any flexibility or mobility work? Right? When
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people like, oh, I can barely carry my grocery okay, I use
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strength training at all? Do you know what I mean? It's like,
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people might say like, oh, I want to be stronger. I want to
25:45
be more fit. Or, you know, you hear it a lot with like, as
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folks are aging and they're getting older, and they're like,
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I have grandkids now, I can't get up off the floor. I can't
25:53
even put my socks on without sitting down. I'm like, Okay,
25:57
you can keep doing what you've been doing. You can keep telling
26:01
yourself that story and look, I'm not saying people don't have
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real physical limitations. Of course, sometimes you do. You
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have an injury, you have a situation, whatever. I'm just
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saying whatever. The thing is, when you say, I want to be the
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kind of person who and you fill in that blank, saves money, goes
26:20
back to church, starts donating more, makes more money, whatever
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your thing is, right? Then you have to stop being the kind of
26:28
person who fill in the blank whatever the old behavior is.
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But you cannot get there from here without some shit changing.
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And whether that's the way you're thinking about it, the
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way you're perceiving it, the way you're going about it,
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right? Your willingness to stop doing the old behaviors, or to
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start doing, you know what I'm saying. So I want, I want to
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just share this to help you think about it. Because, and I'm
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holding up the picture again. I know so many people who say they
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want, I'm pointing at this, the peace symbol, the money symbol,
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the happiness, the connection, the love, the intimacy, more
27:04
time, more patience, whatever it is they say they want it, but
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they're not willing to stop doing the other things. They're
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not willing to be a little more brave or a little more
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courageous, and not willing to be bad at something like to try
27:19
and to make mistakes. They're not willing to fall on their
27:22
face. They're not willing to, like, go for it and show that
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they really want something, because what if they get
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rejected, or what if the other person's not doing their part,
27:29
or what if blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, I'm like, Look, all
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we can control is us and what we're doing and thinking and
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saying and believing. I can't change the rest of the world. I
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can't forcibly, like, make those things change, the way that the
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world slowly changes is enough individuals doing the work on
27:46
themselves and with themselves right to create different
27:50
experiences within themselves where maybe right. They're more
27:55
happy, they're more peaceful, they have more energy, they have
27:58
more patience. They have more compassion. Sometimes they have
28:01
more more. They're listening better to their own internal
28:04
rage, right? They're acknowledging and honoring their
28:08
symptoms and their feelings. They're not trying to fix
28:11
themselves into oblivion. They're not thinking, Oh, I'm
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fucked up, I'm screwed up, I'm broken. They just might be aware
28:18
that there's been some things, but sometimes those things that
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we don't like about ourselves. This is a whole other episode.
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You know, people. I'll just go here. I'll take a tiny, tiny,
28:28
tiny right detour. If you tell somebody that they shouldn't
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feel angry, they need to get rid of their anger right now. I'm
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not talking people. I'm not talking people who are going out
28:41
into the world and inflicting harm on people or themselves.
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I'm just saying, you know, sometimes people don't like when
28:46
women are angry. They call angry women. Sometimes women need to
28:50
get fucking angry so that we'll stop putting up with nonsense,
28:54
right? Sometimes that anger is theirs, because when you were a
28:56
kid, somebody put their hands on you, and you couldn't say no,
28:59
because you didn't have any power, because you were a little
29:01
kid, and that anger is going to be the thing that allows you to
29:04
now use your voice or say no or say stop, or to make a change or
29:09
to end the relationship or to leave, or whatever the thing is.
29:13
So we'd like to pathologize everything and label things
29:16
good, bad, whatever. I'm not saying that all the old things
29:20
are horrible that you need to change everything. But if
29:23
certain things are causing you pain and suffering and they're
29:26
getting
29:27
in the way of you having these things over here on the right
29:31
that you say that you want, then there has to be a willingness.
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And I'm pointing back to that hand with the red arrows that's
29:37
holding on to the old ways. Right? You cannot get here,
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right? Or you cannot get there. I'm pointing at the new ones
29:46
from here. By doing the same old, same old, there has to be
29:50
some willingness to change. So I hope this has been, I don't
29:54
know, helpful in some way, beneficial in some way. And if
29:58
it has, share it with somebody. Share this. I. Episode with
30:00
somebody, right? And just maybe take a few moments to get clear
30:05
with yourself if there's some part of you that's trying to
30:08
become if there's some part of you that wants to be a new way,
30:13
or think a new way, you know, these are all the things that
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like we do in the nest. We talk about meditation, we talk about
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daily spiritual practice. We talk about just the whole being
30:22
human experience, and what are some really good resources and
30:25
tools for creating change and transformation in our life?
30:27
Should we need it and want it? And here's the thing, when
30:30
you're trying to make change, you want to put yourself in
30:33
environments where change is already happening, where change
30:37
is the normal thing. But if you want, if you want to become
30:41
somebody who wants to become more patient, you don't go join
30:46
in. You don't go and join the impatient people's group. You
30:49
know what I mean when you're trying to make change? This is
30:51
why, like, if you're trying to make change. And yes, of course,
30:55
if you're self motivated, you can work out at home, in your
30:57
basement, buy a whole gym, do all that stuff. But if you're
31:00
somebody who wants to create change in your physical capacity
31:03
and your strength, your cardio, whatever, that's why people join
31:06
gyms. They go to the place where that new behavior is normalized.
31:11
It's already happening. You can be influenced. You can be
31:14
inspired, right? So if everybody that you hang out with are
31:19
negative Nellies and you're trying to have more positivity
31:21
and gratitude or whatever in your life, right? You might want
31:25
to, like, find a place where that's happening. And the nest
31:28
is one of those places where change work is going on. So I'm
31:33
saying, and if you want to learn more about the nest or any of
31:36
the stuff that I do, just go to Karen kenney.com right? It's so
31:40
easy to find all the things that I'm up to, yoga and Thai Yoga,
31:43
massage and the nest. And my hot to hot days, my hot to hot days
31:46
are really fun. It's just like having a coach in your pocket.
31:49
It's like three hours of coaching over Voxer, a Voice
31:53
app. It's so easy. You don't even have to put on makeup, get
31:55
on a call, do anything, right? You can just talk to me through
31:58
the phone. It's so much fun. All those things are on my website
32:02
right the nest, and coaching and Thai Yoga, massage, all that
32:05
shit, so you can find it all there. So you guys, I love
32:08
spending a little bit of time with you today. I hope wherever
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you are and whatever you're doing, you're having some sort
32:13
of fun. It is. It is insane out there. It is insane out there,
32:16
but there's always hope. We just saw this past weekend that there
32:19
was a shit ton of people out for the no kings protests, and it
32:24
just feels good to know that there are a lot of people out
32:26
there that care about themselves, care about justice,
32:29
care about what's right and what's fair, and they care about
32:32
their fellow human beings in the environment, etc. And so that
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that was hopeful. All right. Well, thank you so much for
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tuning in. Wherever you go, wherever you go, may you leave
32:44
the animals and the people and yourself and the planet in the
32:47
environment better than how you found it wherever you go. May
32:51
you and your presence and your love and your energy be a
32:56
blessing. Bye. Hey. Thanks so much for listening to the show.
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I really love spending some time together. Now, if you dig the
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